Explain why season 7 is better than 6 please Or if you hate

>>30484147
Season 6 had a lot of very average episodes, and a few real bad ones. Season 7 has average episodes intermixed with some of the best we've seen yet.

>>30484147
It's only /mlp/ and man-children who can't get over the fact that the show has moved on that think the it has lost quality.

>>30484178
moved on from what

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>>30484178
>OP: why is current season better than previous season?
>retard: manchildren think that the show has lost its quality
God, you're getting stupider every day.

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>>30484147
Season 7 so far had only like 1 really bad episode (Hard to say Anything) and one really boring one (Fluttershy Leans) while rest is either OK or great (Perfect Pear, Discordant Hamrony). S6 had like few good ones and most of them were either very boring or utter garbage.


However we sstill need tosee a second half of s7 to really make a good comparison

>>30484147
> Starlight Glimmer: a miserable waste of great potential traded by spotlight stealing episodes where the Remane6 (and now the Princesses) are writen like retards in order to make Starlight look better.
> Rushed resolutions to wrap up character arcs so they could say "The character is finished, there's nothing else we can do with it, therefore, Starlight will take their place"

Basically this is why I think both seasons are shit. Yeah, the perfect pear was great, but it was too little and way too late to make any significative impact.

>>30484147
I enjoy S7 episodes more. What else can i fucking say? I'm not a critic or an anal cyst so I don't know what's good about it, but the show is certainly more fun and enjoyable to watch now

>>30484315
The mental conditioning is working.

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>>30484147
>S6 premiere was a 22 minute story stretched out to 44 minutes, S7 premiere was a 22 minute story played out at 22 minutes
>S6, long awaited RD joins the Wonderbolts episode: Newbie Dash, S7 long awaited AJ's parents episode: Perfect Pear
>S6: Maud is an autist, isn't that so funny, S7: Maud's mental condition is shown to make it difficult for her to connect with other ponies causing conflict and drama.
>the Friendship curriculum was a dumb plot device, S7 kills it

>>30484513
>S7 premiere was a 22 minute story
>story
Lol, no.

>>30484211
Hard to say anything was fucking great.
But yeah leans in was a little boring. The rarijack episode was the bad one.

>>30484513
This episode proved that only autistic people can get along with Starlight.

>>30487180
is thorax Autistic?

>>30484147
The ongoing story keeps on getting worse the longer the show goes on because they've written themselves into so many holes, but there's always the chance that the standalone episodes can get better.

>>30487274
This nigga gets it.

>Insert stock complaint about how the universe is still full of endless possibilities for adventure that will never be explored.

I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just tired of repeating myself.

>>30487432
>Insert stock complaint about how the universe is still full of endless possibilities for adventure that will never be explored.

>be hasbro
>Make guardians of harmony series
>Focus toys around adventure and cool things like fan favorite villains and stuff like the EOH that fans want more of
>Do absolutely NOTHING like that to follow up on it in the show

>>30484147
S6 was shit because they did S1 episodes with S5 characters. The story and characters actions were just so awkward and facial expression jokes didn't help at all.
S7 is good but it's not healthy. You can tell writers are scraping the bottom of the barrel for episode ideas and some ideas feel like they just adopted ideas from fanfics.
S6 was shit but they atleast added some new elements we would want to see more episodes while S7 adds nothing I would want to see more episodes from it for now, especially around mane 6.
The show has no point to continue if it's not going to be about mane 6 imo, they should just do a fucking reboot or something.

>>30487615
>S7 is good
Shill detected.

>>30488683
>makes a thread about how it's possible that some faggots like season 7
>calls shill to anyone that has positive opinion,even barely positive

my autism detector is getting off the charts,have a (You) for that

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>>30484158
pretty much this. although s6 had some gems, overall it was average tier or bad.
s7 on the other hand has been mostly above average or great.

>>30484198
why do you hate God?

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Wasn't season 6 being really bad because of the writers being new?

>>30484260
> Starlight Glimmer: a miserable waste of great potential traded by spotlight stealing episodes where the Remane6 (and now the Princesses) are writen like retards in order to make Starlight look better.
Or maybe the writers just write a character badly? There are episodes in every season where a character is written badly, but people only care now because they can blame it on "muh starlight"
> Rushed resolutions to wrap up character arcs so they could say "The character is finished, there's nothing else we can do with it, therefore, Starlight will take their place"
Ironic, considering starlight is the only character that seems to be finishing up her character arc with her graduating and all.

>>30488754
season 6 is heavily critisized because we all expected to be the one to offer the Starlight's arc
it ended up in the middle of the road with only 3 eps of development(one was a musical) without counting the two parters

everything else were random slice of life ideas put in practice
the season interest was dry for a good reason ,the opener is just uninteresting to discuss and until Guantlet of Fire the season was unnoticed,AJ Day Off,Newbie Dash and Cart Before the Ponies happened and the fandom was shrinking because there was almost nothing interesting left

now in season 7,they are trying it again but without expectations or apparent risky premises.The only risky episodes of this season are A Royal Problem and The Perfect Pear but they are more acclaimed because they gave Celestia and AJ's parents the spotlight they deserved for a long time.

>>30484147
It would have been better if they just let them react and not do shitty skits

>>30488683
>>30484350
>>30484178
Can you give some actual fucking criticism instead of shitposting? Christ people like you make it hard to take anyone who doesn't like the show anymore seriously.

I didn't understand S07-E10 - A Royal Problem. There seemed to be a massive consistency problem there.

In that episode where Glimmer is sent to "sort out" the Princesses' problem, neither seem to understand the other's burdens and responsibilities despite literally living forever with each other (I think actual time prior to NMM banishment is unknown atm). In addition to that seeming inconsistency, how is it that Celestia does not know what Luna has to do during the night, when Celestia herself had to take it upon herself to perform Luna's duties during her 1000 year banishment? Did Celestia just allow ponies to have nightmares unchecked during that 1000 year solo reign? Who took over that duty?

Sorry if this topic has already been exhausted to death, which I'm sure it has. I'm just getting back into the whole culture after a long hiatus.

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>>30488822

>>30486936
It had a newfag writer written all over it with all the bad writing and cliche about romance episodes. It really doesn't help the case of shipping epiosdes always being crap.

>>30488876
the guy asked for their reasons you idiot.

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>>30488838
Royal Problem has very divided opinions just like with Slice of Life and Hearth Warming Tail (Christmas Carol) Many people hated these episodes but other loved it.

I didn't really cared much about ROyal Problem. Glimmer and childish Princessess didn't really made me interested in the episode even if they were the first Princesses episode ever. They just made an extra effort to ruin the experinece.

>>30488884
Remember kids: Calling something a name (cliche, shit etc.) they aren't actually stating an argument. They are scraping at the bottom of the barrel. Someone who isn't 9 refutes central points, compares, contrasts and uses examples.

>>30488894
thats not criticism, and hes right.

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>>30488894
This is some autism. Twilight literally only appeared to stress out Starlight. She haven't interacted with Celestia until the last second in the finale scene.

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>>30488933

>>30487452
I think they're planning its own series.

>>30488921
I enjoyed it as an interesting episode, but that major, major plot inconsistency really knocked me back. I mean that episode had ultimate potential to give REAL character development and historical background, but it's like they totally fucked it up on purpose. I mean, how the fuck do they reconcile such a major inconsistency?

I really want to like that episode, but what could have been a 9/10 dropped to a 5 for that alone. I don't know who greenlit that shit or how they got away with it, but it actually upsets me.

>>30488922
You can't be a shill enough to defend this episode. ANyway if you want longer opinions then check this forum page about the episode

https://mlpforums.com/topic/166214-s07e08-hard-to-say-anything/

Because i'm going to work. Adult people do that you know.

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>>30488894

>>30488933
>She haven't interacted with Celestia until the last second in the finale scene
read it more carefully. it was a twilight and celestia episode, not starlight and celestia episode.

>>30488939
Your being a barneyfag but with glimmer. Also that infograph works on MAYBE 2 episodes.

>>30488939
Not that I approve of the endless cycle, but that jumping glimmy is top cute

>>30488950
>if you like what i dont like, youre a shill
how adult of you. enjoy your low skill labor career.

>>30488946
The problem is that as Larson said, theres too many cooks in the kitchen and every writer writing one episode per season about diferent character make them inconsistant. Especially if they switch the story editor, too.

>>30488952
I did so. Twilight didn't interacted with Celestia in that episode.

>>30488982
>celestial advice

>>30488950
>ANyway if you want longer opinions then check this forum page about the episode
Nah. I don't like that episode very much either. I was just pointing out your lack of reasoning because I'm inclined to do that as an autist
>Because i'm going to work. Adult people do that you know.
You don't actually think i'd believe your an adult if you didn't understand timezones, right? It's 2:30 AM here.

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>>30488982
in celestial advice?

>>30488974
Motherfuck. How is that even allowed? Is middle/upper management really that dense and blind that they failed to see the opportunity of a lifetime to create a truly interesting world with actual lore and historical background rather than just being another run of the mill children's cartoon to rake into those quickbux? I mean do they not realize they can accomplish both, rather than just the latter?

Goddamn I hate incompetent management so fucking much.

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>>30488951
>>30488894

>>30488991
I would have loved to see her writing a Celestia or any princess episode

>>30489022
nothing would have happened. she already stated her idea of a good character for celestia was no character at all.

>>30488991
>There are people who are still going to think this has anything to do with mlp
>implying Lauren even watched the show after she left.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/303189805326548992

>>30489022
She co wrote Luna Eclipsed. Outdated mannered, booming voice Luna was her idea.

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>>30489067
>caught
>better pull out the memes
kek, go to bed CNN

>>30488939
You the same guy that sperged out a while ago and started calling everyone a hypocritical sadist out of nowhere?

>>30489067
alright now the memes aren't even corelating with anything. Its getting out of hand m8.

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>>30489041

>>30489084
wonder which one she mentioned first because this contradicts her statement that a good storytelling method to make celestia seem more mysterious was to never explain anything about her ever.
she changed her mind for one or the other.

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CAN I PLAY TOO?

>>30488986
>>30489009
Oh shit i thought we talk about royal problem, yeahcelestial advice was mostly twilight and celestia ep

>>30489108
Sure just let me edit my filters first.

>>30489107
>a good storytelling method to make celestia seem more mysterious was to never explain anything about her ever.
Would have been way more interesting to drop subtle tidbits of information pertaining to her past that can be pieced together to make more sense over the course of the series. But I guess that would have been too much work.

imo only 12 episodes from S6 were good or great. Everything else ranged from mediocre to THE WORST EPISODES. I've had issues with quite a few s7 episodes, so far I only think 3 have been great, but the rest have still been good or ok with only Honest Apple and the yak episode being outright bad and neither of them are as terrible as the worst shit from previous seasons.

>>30489143
>s6
>the worst episodes
s6 didnt have princess spike.

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>>30489169
That episode was kinda funny. I enjoyed it well enough mostly because mai Derpyfu was in it

>>30489154
It had Applejack's Day Off and the gaydized Changelings finale.

>>30489169
GIDDY UP! DERBY RACERS!
the funny thing is that it was the hymn for the 4cc...holy shit,my sides when I listened to it in the final match

>>30489154
>episodes
Plural, mate. Princess Spike is pretty terrible but there were plenty terrible eps in s6 you could argue that rival it. Besides, we're talking about s6 and s7

>>30489181
It didn't focus on it enough to save it.
>when you realize the animators put more effort into characterization than the writers

>>30489169
only real problem i had with the episode was the fucking track. the carts were acceptable as long as they relied on gravity, but theres no way thats all they could be using based on how it went. the layout was just retarded.

did they really need to have a giant fucking crash before the CMC stood up for themselves and said step the fuck off our project? they could have used the story idea to teach them that they might have to go to other ponies for specific advice on their interests instead of just their sisters.

>there were plenty terrible eps in s6 you could argue that rival it
i couldnt say that since princess spike is the only episode thus far in the series that i actually despise. the rest of the bad ones i just find boring or contrived.

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>>30489211
>only real problem i had with the episode was the fucking track. the carts were acceptable as long as they relied on gravity, but theres no way thats all they could be using based on how it went. the layout was just retarded.

>>30489143
The yak one was one of the best imo, we got to see a good depiction of pinkie and it made me laugh a few times.
But holy shit honest apple doesn't get enough shit slung at it.
>le xD randumb guitar solo
>applejack acting completely ooc
>rarity has no actual reason to ask her
>fashion pones immediately do whatever applejack says and then get sad about it
>moral is supposed to be about being tactful but instead comes off as "do not criticise things it might hurt their feelings" could have easily been fixed by showing applejack giving constructive criticism at the end but no
>since fucking when has applejack EVER been brutally honest
It was a new writer and looking at his previous experience it's clear he's fucking bottom of the barrel
>gary unmarried
>mike and molly

>>30489234
>It was a new writer and looking at his previous experience it's clear he's fucking bottom of the barrel
Really makes you wonder what kind of characters these writers themselves are. I mean, do they just not give a shit enough to ask the older more senior writers tips on the plot line and tips on how to "make it all work"? Are they just arrogant? Are they stupid?

I suppose it's a mystery.

>>30489234
I guess Ponk was alright but the yaks are completely uninteresting and dumb.
There a few good scenes in Honest Apple but it drives me off the wall that they managed to completely fuck up a character as simple as AJ. I'm no applefag but I feel so sorry for them to be constantly saddled with shit episodes and characterizations.

>>30489257
Supposedly they now force them to watch episodes with the character they are writing for in them.

>>30488943
Source.

>>30489266
Hey, they fucked up an even simpler character, Big Mac, in one episode.

>>30489266
>they fucked up AJ's characterization
How so? The characters seemed pretty in character.

>>30489274
Service mark filed for it and they're keeping it alive.

>>30489234
>since fucking when has applejack EVER been brutally honest
ep408, 17:58

>>30489271
While that seems promising, the damage has already been done. You can't renege entire episodes. How to fix the past? You can't, and that's the most disappointing part.

>>30489281
The most egregious moment is where she took the hat -something that pony meticulously worked on - and fucking stomped on and destroyed it. If there's ANYONE who would understand the value of hard work it would be her. That moment alone is awful enough to assassinate her character in my eyes.

>>30489306
They did it with Gauntlet of Fire.

>>30489322
dont forget Buckball Season and Brotherhooves Social

>>30489314
Oh fuck I misread your post and thought you were talking about the perfect pear. Yeah everyone was a retard in the episode and it really showed. Atleast we got strawberry horse.

>>30489314
i have to agree, that part was pretty fucked.

>>30489322
And then they undid it to favor Starlight on S06's finale.

>>30489356
In what way?

>>30484147
I won't even bother trying because season 7 isn't even finished yet.

>>30489420
> Dragons never brought up ever again, not even during the ponies's darkest moment
> Spike made possible that Thorax were accepted among ponies, was never mentioned again

Cue season's finale where the dragons are NOT summoned to help out against the changelings and Thorax suddeny doesn't give a shit about Spike and he's all Glim this, Glim that, even on the next opener.

Yes, Spike will have one (ONE) episode where this is going to be brought up and it's a fucking comedy nwhere he (as before) fucks things up so the episode could have a conflict to sustain during 24 minutes.

There's no medal for Spike. No thanks, no developing. Only more floors to sweep, more dishes to wash and more doors to hit him because of the complete incompetence of the writing and directing staff.

>>30489446
Damn, I actually didn't think about this for those particular episodes. Fuck, this just lends more credence to my gripes about absolutely monstrous plot inconsistencies. Fuck me. Something so potentially good absolutely ruined and shat on because of retard management and shit writers.

I'm mad now.

>>30489459
Keep on mind that so far, Ember's sole cameo was on an imagination spot that yes, WAS AGAIN ALL ABOUT STARLIGHT.

>>30489446
I don't see how that's even remotely approaching any kind of retcon,.

Did anyone at any point ever find Spike slapstick funny? They overused it and it wasn't even because of humor, people at DHX have had this irrational hateboner for him and are upset people don't like seeing their stories where they beat him up.

Then again these are the people who drew him with a sword through his chest and bleeding, you expect them to have a balanced view? The real irrational anti Spikefags were always DHX.

>>30489473
I have never enjoyed anything spike ever did, also he's fat.

>>30489473
>Did anyone at any point ever find Spike slapstick funny?
Not to beat a dead horse but yeah... Jim Miller thought it was grade A+ comedy and was genuinely surprised when Princess Spike aired and he was told exactly where he could shove his stupid sense of "comedy"

Jim made some promises to apply a quick damage control and as we could see 2 seasons later, all of his promises about developing Spike and giving him real issues and responsabilities ended up as nothing.

>>30489486
>Jim Miller
I see this name tossed around. Is he the real villain in why everything is turning to shit? Basic Gestalt on this guy pls.

>>30489497
He's the guy a few people like to blame for everything even though in reality they don't really know what happens during production.
You will now respond with "hey jim"

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>>30489504
Jim isn't responsible for everything, but you have to admit that he IS guilty of a lot of bad things, like Spike's unfunny slapstic gags AND he was behind of the existence of Starlight and Flurryheart,

What about Lu and Myhre?

>>30489512
Yeah, I don't get this whole Flurryheart thing. It felt like a total hamfist of preemptive plot material without really thinking how she's going to exactly fit into the plot. I'm not particularly fond of the character and it seems to totally break lore, even further than Twilight becoming a Princess alicorn. Now all of a sudden they can just be born and everybody is just all cool with it?? Like it's not a major fucking anomaly that should have every pony concerned?

Fuck, man. Just fuck my shit up.

>>30489532
It kills me that they cant even insert the GOOD fucking toys into the series.

>>30489532
And remember, Jim is the one guy from DHX who constantly runs his mouth about "keeping the show faithful to faust's original vision"

This is the guy who never batted an eye when the staff added motorized cars (twice), telephones, modern MP3 players, modern cities, modern clothing, new princesses and even an alicorb baby, without mentioning how a character of their own (Starlight) is now literally better than any member of the mane6, especially Twilight.

He really deserves the hate he gets, but he never fucking learns from his endless fuckups.

>>30489557
I thought S06 was going to be like GoH, yeah.

Instead we got STARLIGHT STARLIGHT STARLIGHT and some shit SoL episodes that never amounted to anything of worth.

>>30489558
Almost sounds like he's doing it on purpose. Hmmmm. I wonder of what particular religious persuasion this Jim "Miller" might belong to.

>>30489568
Like why did you give it to the comics to do? They didnt even do a very good job, and didnt even really include all of the toys. You could have promoted the new line in show instead of just doing it in the movie.

>Pear Butter's song playing during the credits instead of the usual music

>>30489532
Flurry heart could be really interesting if she grows up during the series, like struggling to deal with all the expectations that come with being born an alicorn and being so seperated from the plebs.

>>30489587
I suppose that's the only way to salvage an already garbage situation. I'd prefer if she didn't exist at all, but the decision was made already. It just really pisses me off because at the beginning of the series and all throughout, Celestia and Luna are revered almost to the point of being deities, and now after the introduction of Cadence, the coronation of Twilight, and the birth of Flurryheart, the whole mystery/almost religiosity of Alicorns is just utterly cheapened.

I wouldn't fucking surprised if later in S7 or in S8 (((Miller))) decides to add a whole fucking race of Alicorns in a long lost mystery land. God damn writing this pisses me off.

>>30489603
That was the original movie plot.

>>30489611
Sauce me on that pls. I want my anger justified.

>>30489558
>starlight better than twilight
What, starlight is one of the most flawed characters in the show, she's being wrong and fucking up constantly.
They were evenly matched when they fought.

>>30488838
>>30488946
That one is pretty easy to explain actually, even if Celestia would have wanted to help ponies with nightmares, she couldn't, because she didn't have Luna's powers. They even allude to it in the episode when Luna says "I have your power, remember?" to tell Tia that she needs to resolve the nightmare and that Luna can't.

As for the burdens and responsibilities thing, I do agree that it's a little weird, but Luna's banishment was the result of a not entirely different problem (the factors are more external, but it still shows that they weren't as close as they could/should have been) and they didn't really resolve that underlying issue, so the misunderstandings in the episode aren't that far fetched (Also a lot of the non-appreciation for the other's job came from the anger built up due to the perceived slights, that tends to cloud judgement and make you exaggerate).

>>30488838
Celestia's royal duties came after Luna was banished, as she became lonely and went to the ponies to assume the role as their Princess. And it seems that Luna started to visit ponies dreams recently, after the banishment. That should make sense, since the sisters lived by themselves and didn't intervene with the ponies regularly, as once Luna was banished she was only remembered as Nightmare Moon, and the fact that Celestia decided to move.

Assume that once Luna was released and joined her sister to rule over ponies, she found her niche in helping fillies sleep soundly. Now both sister had their own royal duty.

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>>30489558
>modern cities
Those are canon since S1 though. Also I'm not sure what you mean with modern clothes.
Also we seriously don't know how much influence Jim has on the story and it's likely he doesn't have a lot, so you should rather blame the story editor from that time for story-relevant stuff, i.e. Haber.

>>30489622
I think it was in the infamous Sony email where Sony suggested fulfilling the prophecy. Some people seem to actually want that plot back.

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>>30489622
See pic. Also the plot some people seem to want back is the alicorn city one if that wasn't clear.

>>30489813
im about 56% sure meghan is going to use this idea as the s8 story arc.

>>30489820
expanding on this, the main problem they faced with that particular story was its heavily lore based and quite frankly super fucking important lore for the core show. had they made it a movie, which is supposed to be easy to digest for people that may have never seen an episode, they would have had to waste a ton of screen time giving all those newfags context as to what an alicorn is, why it matters, and so on. its an amazing idea, but the execution of it in this fashion would be horrible.

therefore the most prudent idea would be to add it into s8+ somewhere so they can properly delve into it without having to explain every detail about equestria to newfags and also allowing it to have a significant impact on the show universe.

>>30489861
I understand why it isn't in the movie for the reasons you listed and I do think the idea is intriguing, however I'm not sure about the whole Alicorn species thing instead of Alicorns being very special in other ways.

As for having it in the show, it would make sense, but we don't even know if Meghan is coming back to the show and I doubt it'd be in S8 since that pretty much has to be in production already and I don't think Meghan is done with the movie yet. So I wouldn't expect it before S9 if that happens, unless they want to close the show with it in S8 (and rush it like MMC :^)). And who knows whether they'd actually want to do it and if they didn't scratch it completely.

Also,
>implying Meghan/the show would do a major arc like that and not just cram it into 44 minutes
You are too optimistic, Anon.

>>30489459
Discord has same treatment, literally entire his twilight kingdom development was retconned and he was written in s5 and s6 as he just only had that one episode in s3

>>30489459
Is basically haber winging it and vogel being a noob writers. Lady writers gave him his first good ep with ember, and now they are being consistant wirh bringing back changelings and e ber

>>30489943
Desu just because he learned to treasure friendship doesn't mean he has to stop being a dick

>>30489942
meghan should be back since its her job.
alicorns from what we already know about them almost seem to be ascended beings. perhaps there were quite a few at some time but they were since lost for reasons unknown. except luna and celestia whom were sent away with star swirl, or he found them, or something.

>You are too optimistic
s4 had a season long arc, and s5 had a mock one with glimmer appearing in the background of many episodes. i dont doubt they could go for a full fledged season arc story at some point.

>>30489603
Unless they retcon cadance backstory, Twilight will also give birth to another alicorn, since cadance also ascended from a pegasi

>>30489622
Mcarthy wanted to base movie on journal of two sisters approved by faust and add sea ponies, female draconequus and Starswirl

>>30489820
Comics hint at brother cosmos being reused in shadowlock plot

>>30489961
He didnt apreciate any lessons. He had been saved by twilight yet he wanted to give her a mental break down in what about discord, he also acted like jealous dick in make new friends even though he just betrayed Fluttershy with tirek so him being mad that she went with tree hugger should give him some thoughts instead acting like shes cheating on him

>>30489980
>female god of chaos out of nowhere
that would be awful for many reasons

>>30489993
ya, hes a dick. thats his personality.
you know you can be a dick and still be friends with people despite what SJWs preach.

>>30490001
There is no impact of twilight kingdom on discord at all, unless he fell in love with FS because he started to act extra protective of her since that episode. Even suicadal at some point

>>30490022
besides fluttershy, they all hated him up until twilights kingdom. he also had doubts about fluttershy as he showed. then he put it to the test and fluttershy had legitimately believed in him. thats when he felt like a piece of shit and realized he fucked up. he later apologized to both fluttershy and told twilight about what he learned. he appreciated their friendship.

fluttershy became significantly more important to him after that due to her loyalty and belief in him, but he never stopped being a dick. he considers himself their friends in his own way.

>>30489783
>hey this skyscraper flashed on screen for one second this means that Equestria is as advanced as our world
I hate this meme

>>30490084
Think they have elevators installed in that building, or is it actually a giant birdcage for pegasus?

>>30490084
Well, in this case we were talking about modern cities. And if you watch Cutie Mark Chronicles, Manehattan is shown as a modern city with lots of Skycrapers (or at least medium-sized buildings) if you look at the backgrounds, as well as some more traditional districts, where the Oranges live. So modern cities are definitely canon or at least one is, and I think that's also the one we usually see as a modern city.

As for modern technology, it's pretty clear from the start that Equestria is somewhere around 1850-1950 in terms of tech, judging by all kinds of things, like Pinkie's balloons, sweets, and party supplies (and some other things that look like they're made of plastics), the microphone in Running of the Leaves, the train, the Wild West theme of Over a Barrel, Rarity's mannequins, the Cake's storefront, and probably quite a few other things, especially if you also look past just S1, which I didn't to show that this stuff has been there from the start. Weaponry seems to be one of the few things that's far behind technologically, transport, lighting (no electricity), and communication to a lesser extent.

You may be interested in thread >>30444107, which discussed similar things.

>>30490171
Aside from the skyscrapers that fly by, Manehattan looks at most advanced to be late 19th century. I thought it had cobblestone streets but looking back at it the streets are just dirt, so it's not even as advanced as that.

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>>30490171
dont forget las pegasus.

>>30490251
With that colour it could be asphalt, too, no? Although it probably is dirt, yeah.

Also yeah, apart from those buildings it looks pretty much exactly like New York around the turn of the century (pic related). However those skyscrapers are still there, so should we ignore them? For all we know they could be on the opposite of the window Applejack looks out of in the episode.

>>30490279
True. That DDR machine is pretty much the only thing that looks newer than 1950's tech in the episode. Some have pointed out that the arrows seem to be on a roll instead of some sort of electronic display.

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>>30490251
Obviously, forgot pic.

>>30490300
it does look like theyre on rolls, but what about the red x? how does it know you fucked up?

>>30490300
>However those skyscrapers are still there, so should we ignore them?
They only appeared for two seconds as objects disassociated from any actual scenery. They were probably only intended as shorthands to establish that Manehattan was a bigger city than Ponyville and not literal representations of what's in the city.

>>30490308
Well, I didn't say it explains everything, but considering they have an intercom, they have at least some electricity or some sort of conductive magic-derivative. At that point it's a relatively easy (to imagine) setup of having the x light up when the movable contact connected to the pressure plate doesn't get connected when an arrow passes or when a plate gets pushed without an arrow being at the associated place. Somewhat similar in concept to a music box, just with feedback.

>>30490311
That's an awfully easy way to just discard things that contradict your headcanon, especially since similar buildings appear in later seasons :^)

>>30490311
I mean, of course they're used as shorthands, but they could just as easily have used tall and ornate 1920's-style brick buildings.

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>>30490344
>That's an awfully easy way to just discard things that contradict your headcanon, especially since similar buildings appear in later seasons :^)
Well then it's very convenient that later seasons aren't canon then.

>>30490353
I suppose then the next step is to debate what would be considered "modern" as the original Anon put it, since I'd say end-of-19th-century buildings are still fairly modern and do fit with the overall 1850-1950's theme the show tends to be going with. Even later Manehattan episodes mostly fit with that theme, there's just a bit too much glass on the façades.

>>30490353

>>30490050
Why do people always cram Pinkie in with the rest? She didn't hate Discord

>>30489446
>
Cue season's finale where the dragons are NOT summoned to help out against the changelings and Thorax suddeny doesn't give a shit about Spike and he's all Glim this, Glim that, even on the next opener.
Of course dragons weren't called on to help. Literally everyone present in gauntlet of fire was captured.
>Thorax suddeny doesn't give a shit about Spike and he's all Glim this, Glim that, even on the next opener.
Thorax didn't bring up spike because of how redundant that would be. At that point, everyone established that everyone but them were captured, including thorax. More exposition would be a waste of time.

>>30484147
6 focused on Glimshit
7 has had barely any eps of her
/thread

>>30484147
I think none of them are that shitty. It's just that many fans have unrealistic expectations.

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>>30490084
>hey this skyscraper flashed on screen for one second this means that Equestria is as advanced as our world

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>>30490816

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Totally a late 1800's town, just like S01! Totally faithful to Faust's vision, so we didn't fuck up anything! (Please praise us, please...)

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>>30490815
Easy there, Illustrous Q. You're not working for 4chan, but Equestria Daily. You forgot a site again.

>>30490846
>>30490853
So you're not allowed to say anything good about the series on 4chan now?

>>30490860
The idea of every episode being good is the same as saying that every episode was shit. It make your opinon worthless.

>>30490809
fuck let me reformat this


>Cue season's finale where the dragons are NOT summoned to help out against the changelings and Thorax suddeny doesn't give a shit about Spike and he's all Glim this, Glim that, even on the next opener.
Of course dragons weren't called on to help. Literally everyone present in gauntlet of fire was captured.

>Thorax suddeny doesn't give a shit about Spike and he's all Glim this, Glim that, even on the next opener.
Thorax didn't bring up spike because of how redundant that would be. At that point, everyone established that everyone but them were captured, including thorax. More exposition would be a waste of time.

>>30490875
Perhaps you should stop being retarded and dealing in absolutes. "Shit" and "good" are not the only scores that exist. Plus I said
>I think none of them are that shitty. It's just that many fans have unrealistic expectations.
"Them" as "seasons", as that's what OP was asking.

>>30487190
Probably.

>>30490860
>So you're not allowed to say anything good about the series on 4chan now?
Legit good things? Yes.
Rationalizing turds or trying to convince people that a screw up is not important so nobody should criticrize anything, and "it's a cartoon for little girls" so everyone should lower their standards (despite the series being created as an answer to crap cartoons, and meant to be enjoyed by adults and children alike)
Then no, you can't say anything positive if that's your intention, which is the case right now or whenever you open your mouth.

Go to Derpibooru and Equestria Daily if you want to be a mindless Hasdrone. Not here.

>>30490911
Your polemizing skills suck. "You can do thing, but only when I'm not flagging this thing as bad". But you always can flag this thing as bad, can't you? What's the difference between saying "legit good things" and "hasdroning"? It's not like it can be determined objectively or anything.

>>30490881
See, this is an example of a brainless Hasdrone who rather than accept the epic screwup and complete failure of the staff, has decided to rationalize and apply headcanon bullshit to pretend he isn't wasting his time and life watching and supporting a cartoon that has been living off nothing but consumer's loyalty for years.

For the record, I'm one of the ones who believes the series still can be good, but not under the current direction. We already saw the full extent of their combined skills and they were nowhere good enough to keep this show afloat without fucking up everything that made it unique and special in the first place.

Get rid of the incompetent ones, replace them with a direction team who CARES and we will be good again.

>>30490899
>Perhaps you should stop being retarded and dealing in absolutes.
>>30490860
>So you're not allowed to say anything good about the series on 4chan now?

Your idiotic words, not ours. Now, this is the part where you say "it's not the same so my point still stands and you still lose" as if that were enough to make it true?

>>30490935
See, this is an example of a strawman. If my argument was so mindless, then why don't you refute it?

>>30490921
Please keep crying, it's amusing to see how mindless Hasdrones keep whinning and complaining just to keep having the last word.

I'm suuure that bitching and bitching nonstop about the "haters" will make the series's infinite fuckups suddenly dissapear, dumbass.

But please, keep trying, I want to see how many times you will keep replying and rationalizing a mediocre show made by a mediocre staff and praised by retards.

>>30488789
>Ironic, considering starlight is the only character that seems to be finishing up her character arc with her graduating and all.
Except she didn't graduate. They literally made the season premiere a huge buildup for her graduation and then did nothing with it and let her stay. I have a really hard time understanding why this is the case, what with all the negative feedback in regards to her. If they really wanted to keep her on the show that fucking badly, they could have just made the occasional episode showing what her and Trixie are up to in who-knows-where after her graduation. It honestly seems like the perfect compromise to me, and I'm fucking baffled that they didn't do it.

>>30490943
You see, you're dealing in absolutes sincerely and I'm merely asking a question that would be a logical continuation of your supposed point of view where only absolutes exist, to show how stupid that supposed point of view would be.
Now, this is the part where you say "this is not true go kys cuck" because you're running out or arguments.

>>30490959
Another strawman! Instead or using reason or arguing your stance you continue your mindless babble. Your posts are the same as a child sticking his fingers in his ear and humming loudly.

>>30490959
I asked a question
>What's the difference between saying "legit good things" and "hasdroning"? It's not like it can be determined objectively or anything.
But apparently instead of answering it and trying to have a constructive discussion, you're only willing to spew more insults.

>>30490949
Because he can't. Stop being a sadist anon.

>>30490982
He's going to pretend he apready won an argument that just started and call you a hasdrone or something.

>>30490976
>>30490949

> "Stop dealing in absolutes!"
> "Whoeves disagree with me is a strawman!"
> "That doesn't refute my opinion so I always win!"
> "But remember, the ones who deal in absolutes is you and not me!"

Ah, Hasdrones.

>>30490998
> "Whoeves disagree with me is a strawman!"
> "That doesn't refute my opinion so I always win!"
Expect nobody here ever said any of that?

>>30490998
You could just point out in anyway how your argument is right or how my argument is wrong instead of sputtering out "hasdrone" you bottom of the totem pole mindless child. Also, atleast google strawman before you embarrass yourself further.

>>30490982
Define "good things" and how we can 100% agree on that instead of "good" being something subjective just as "bad"

Define how a completely shit episode is still considered "good" because it has one good thing among the many bad things that plagued it.

Define a middle point we all could agree at 100% since that's what you wanted to have all along so you could say nice things without being labeled as a brainless Hasdrone.

Define them all by yourself since it's you who wanted to get this, not us. It's not our job or responsability to give you the middle point you want so you could praise the show without being called a Hasdrone.

Show everyone your skills, or the lack of.

>>30484211
>one really boring one (Fluttershy Leans)
Fuck off, giraffe memes are best memes

>>30490998
Same dude? >>30489082

> Multiple answers to defend the "I want to praise the show" and "you are a strawman!" posts
> IP counter is still the same.

>>30491036
Almost as if this thread has been up for nearly a day and people have made multiple posts.

>>30491036
Alright its pretty clear you have lost and are just REEEEing out those strawmans as usual. I have to go to work and I don't have time to argue with a babbling infant.

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>>30490860
>>30490899
>>30490921
>>30490949
>>30490975
>>30490976
>>30490982
>>30491011
>>30491020
>>30491035

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>>30491040
>>30491045
More samefagging. :)

And the show's bad episodes remain being bad, your opinion hasn't changed any of that. You aren't rewinding time or changing anyone's opinion, anon: shit happened and is still shit.

>>30489231

Wait, is this legit? I thought Greg was just memeing. Wow.

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>>30491067
You realise how stupid this makes you look?

>>30491067
Still no argument, and I don't expect that to change when I get back. Shutting off my computer, bye now :^)

>>30491025
>Define "good things" and how we can 100% agree on that instead of "good" being something subjective just as "bad"
Except we can't? Works of fiction are a product of human mind, not direct nature. They can't be valued objectively (except for their purely technical qualities, that is), like, say, laws of physics.
>Define how a completely shit episode is still considered "good" because it has one good thing among the many bad things that plagued it.
See? You're flagging already. "Good", "bad" - when you're talking about works of fiction, this is subjective.
>Define a middle point we all could agree at 100% since that's what you wanted to have all along so you could say nice things without being labeled as a brainless Hasdrone. Define them all by yourself since it's you who wanted to get this, not us. It's not our job or responsability to give you the middle point you want so you could praise the show without being called a Hasdrone.
Well now you're just being ridiculous. How could I define that point without further knowledge about your psyche or preferences?

My point was that constructive discussion in this context requires each side to recognize that their statements about fiction are, in fact, subjective, as they cannot be proven only by other subjective statements. When people like you starts treating these statements as if they're facts (yet for some reason no textbook or reference book exists where all of those facts would be listed), that's when discussion stops being constructive. We're wasting too much time determining who wanted to say what, just like now, because instead of admitting the subjective nature of these statements we treat it as if it's common knowledge when it, in fact, is not.

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>>30491073
So you can use MSPaint. Yaaay.

>>30491079
>My point was that constructive discussion in this context requires each side to recognize that their statements about fiction are, in fact, subjective
"It was good" is subjective and therefore, completely worthless as an opinion or as a fact, then.

Congratulations, you permanently destroyed any argument you could have presented because it's subjective and acording to your own words, not valid.

You can leave now, and maybe try again on a different thread.

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>>30489558
>added motorized cars (twice)
>twice

>>30491111
Well duh, this thread is for stating subjective opinions, I was stating a subjective opinion. It's you who was trying to make opinions look objective, and it's you who replied to me in the first place.

>>30491081
If you weren't so persistent i would think you were false flagging.

>>30491111
>subjective opinions
>as if there's any other kind
Anon...

>>30491125
You are the one who wants to find a way to push praises and asspats as valid opinions no matter what, ano0n.
You are also the one who's mad because he wants to say nothing but nice things without being called a Hasdrone.
>>30491116

Babs Seed's float parade (complete with magnetic hooves to grab the steering wheel) and then the pony kart episode, where the motorized vehicles were the least stupid thing about the episode.

>>30491224
>You are the one who wants to find a way to push praises and asspats as valid opinions no matter what, ano0n.
>You are also the one who's mad because he wants to say nothing but nice things without being called a Hasdrone.
Link a post where I said any of that.
How does me saying that I do not consider to be any season to be extremely shitty as a whole (which means that even if there are some shitty episodes, they do not make the entire season terrible) equal to "wants to say nothing but nice things"?
Why do you have to twist my words so much?

>>30491224
They've had steam engines since S1, bruh. And I'm pretty sure the karts weren't motorized, they were just going downhill.

But please, keep going. The salt is delicious.

>>30491276
> Karts picking up speed on their own
> Picking up speed on a road that's supposed to be a constant downslope but actually goes all across ponyville as a clover road.
> Ponyville is now built on a downslope
> "It's for kids, so it can be shit!"

>>30491308
Hey, I'm not arguing that the track made any sense, but you specifically said "motorized". They have that technology.

You sure do like to put words in other people's mouths, don't you.

>>30491337
> Karts picking up speed on their own, going on a road that's supposed to go up and down
> "They are not motorized!"

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>>30490836
Well, except for that screen, which is admittedly unforgivable, that still fits with the 1850-1950 time range the show has always had.

>>30491357
Better. Still, if they have enough of a drop where they can pick up speed before they enter the up-and-down portion, then yes, they could make it through. And yes, they would pick up speed on the down portions.

Also, there's the possibility that they have brakes. What happens when you release brakes while going downhill, Anon?

Dunno why I'm arguing this, but hey, it's fun.

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>>30491400
Except that as you can see here, they are going uphill and this is one of the reasons why that episode was shit.
The other reasons were the adult girls being complete assholes to the fillies and then asking them why they didn't said anything about it when the fillies were doing that during the entire episode.

Also, that retarded gag with Scootaloo and the chicken head was just pathetic.

>>30491505
Well, I'm satisfied. That's pretty cut-&-dry. But, if you're curious, here are some headcanon fixes just because.

>Supersized rubberband engine for short bursts
>Pedals
>Magic
The camera is tilted at an angle for dramatic effect

Anyway. Enough of this episode that I'll probably never watch again. I'm tapped out. Peace.

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>>30491067
>He looked up his tweets from 3 years ago

>>30491505
>"HA HA, POPS TOLD ME NOT TO INSTALL A MACH DRIVE ON A DERBY KART, BUT HOW ELSE ARE WE TO WIN AND DEFEAT PONY X, OH!"

>>30490805
she sure frowned at him a lot despite enjoying his pranks

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>>30492144
This one is recent and as you can see, Jim still lurks around to find new things to whine about.

>>30492391
>recent
You've been posting it for several months already.

>>30492401

I got it from a thread from a few days ago.

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>>30492391
doesnt look like its proof he lurks around 'here' specifically though. i call this place home and even i wouldnt come to this shithole for insight anymore.

>>30487190
He's autistic for a changeling

>>30493815

>>30484147
last season twilights shitty character traits were put on display, and not called out enough. it also made trixie nearly commit suicide so fuck that shitty season.