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My Little Progress : Technology Isn't Magic - Thread 45

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Twilight: I can't really believe your story Anon, buildings with over 100 levels? Flying boats bigger than Ponyville? And yet there's no magic in your world? Please.
>Growing tired of Twilight's berating, you go out into the world to prove her wrong.

That's the prompt that started it all. So what is thread about? It's about Anon bringing human science and inventions to Equestria and a disbelieving Twilight. Although, that's not necessarily the prompt you need to follow if writing is what you desire.

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Let's start things off with some new greentext
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>Before you came to Equestria you were staying at grandparent's place out in the country
>They passed away a few years ago and left the house to your dad.
>He planned on retiring there when he was done working.
>But for now, it was like a vacation home for the whole family

>Your stay was only supposed to be a few days.
>Just a quick break from the city life to recharge your mental batteries.
>In the middle of the night, while you slept you, the house, and the surrounding area were transported to another world.

>You remember waking up that morning and just knowing something was off.
>From inside everything appeared normal.
>However, when you looked out the window you immediately noticed something wrong.
>What was once a flat field of just grass the night before was now rolling hills and littered with trees.
>But even stranger were the giant mountains that dominated the horizon
>Going outside would reveal more strange sights

>The driveway that once connected to the main road into town now just ended almost 20 yards away from the house
>The old fence was cut off at the same distance.
>In fact, everything from before just cut off after a certain point.
>Luckily the generator and fuel tank were fine and still working
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>After checking out the surrounding nearby area you noticed off in the distance what to appear to be a small village.
>You were going to have to some off-roading for a bit before you could drive on what looked like a dirt path leading into the village.
>It's a good thing you had a truck.
>The place was called Ponyville.
>Home to many you would now call friends.

>They were a kind and helpful bunch
>They did everything they could to help you adjust
>One of their princesses was especially interested in learning all about you and your house.
>Her name was Twilight Sparkle
>For everything you showed her, she seemed to have a million questions.
>In exchange, she showed my the wonders of magic.

>Magic was fascinating to learn about and see performed.
>It seemed like it could do almost anything.
>Twilight was even able to recreate the fuel your generator and truck used.
>And for a fairly cheap price too.
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>It was summer when you first came to Equestria.
>Now it was the middle of fall.
>Barring the occasional crisis, life in Ponyville was peaceful.
>Now they were preparing for some Halloween-like holiday called "Nightmare Night".
>You had asked Twilight about it.
>It surprised you to learn about what had happened with Luna.
>To hear about her feeling like her beautiful night sky was unappreciated.
>You wanted to do something for her to show how much you appreciated her work.

>There were two things that Twilight told you about that got you thinking.
>The first was that it is tradition to give up some sweets as an offering to Luna.
>Secondly, Luna intends to once again visit Ponyville again in person this year.
>You figured during the offering you could give her gift of some kind.
>You wondered what you could give her.
>That's when you remembered something.
>Whenever you visited your grandparents your dad would take you to his old room.
>There was a poster in there that always caught your eye when you entered.
>Even after all these years, that poster was still there.
>It was something that you were sure would make her happy.
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>>30436923
>No stories about Anon liquefy or crystalising magic at high purity got various uses
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>When Nightmare Night arrived you were ready.
>You had gotten dressed in your mad scientist costume
>As you were heading out you grabbed the gift.

>By the time you rolled into Ponyville the festival was in full swing.
>Stalls were up and running for a wide variety of games to play.
>Decorations were littered across the streets.
>And Luna seemed to be having the time of her life.
>You decided to mill about the stalls and hang out with some friends until it was time.

>An hour later the offerings began.
>It started when Luna stood on stage and loudly declared, "Attention All! Your princess grows hungry!".
>The fillies and colt trembled before her.
>A small smile graced Luna's previously faux-stern face.
>She certainly seemed to embrace her role on this night.
>"Perhaps we should feast on one of the many fillies or colts before us?"
>The children screamed in fright but did not flee.
>"Mayhaps an alternative can be arranged?"
>The screaming quieted down so they may better hear Luna.
>"We shall allow those who do not wish to be eaten to make for us an offering of sweets"
>She pointed at a spot in front of the stage.
>"The line shall start here for those who wish to make an offering"
>The herd of children gathered at the spot and formed a line.
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>You waited until the last child left when you approached Luna.
>"Ah, Anonymous hast thou come to us to make an offering too?"
"In a manner of speaking yes, I do"
>You say before handing over the rolled up poster
>"Anonymous we are unsure of how things are like back where you came from, but here we generally do not eat scrolls."
>She teases before unraveling the paper to reveal a picture.
>You can tell from her confusion she is unsure of what to make of it.
>"Pray tell Anon what is this?"
"It's a photo of a historic event from back home. It's a photo from the first time humans walked on our moon".
>That sentence seemed to visibly shake her.
>"Why would your kind send people to the moon?"
>She looks at you with genuine curiosity in her eyes.
"We looked out to the stars, and the moon: and we wanted to learn all that we could about them "
>Her face lit up with a gentle smile and faint blush marks.
>"I must thank thee, Anon. It pleases me to hear what your kind would do such a thing. I only wish that I could have witnessed it with my own eyes "
"If you want we could go back to my place. I have a couple of documentaries about it with footage from the missions."
>"That sounds lovely, but perhaps another time. We still have duties to perform this night"
"I understand, and if that is all I shall see you some other time. Good Night Luna."
>"Good Night Anonymous."
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>With that done you turn around and head back home.
>Unaware the full consequences of that conversation.
>That chat would be the spark that would drive Luna in the years to come.
>Drive her to answer a burning question inside her.
>What is out there?
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>>30436979
It's not much but I felt like this thread could use some greentext to start it off. I was inspired to write this after watching "For All Mankind" and I would recommend watching it. You can find it here on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJiHAoAru54.

Also here's a pastebin copy in case anybody wants it: https://pastebin.com/LJznF4Z3
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>>30436973
>"Why would your kind send people to the moon?"
"They were called 'hippies' and they displeased President Nixon."
>"Well, that's reasonable."
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>>30437976
You'd think sending hippies into space would just be giving them what they want?
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>>30438891
Not being on earth cuts off their drugs
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>>30439150
I was making a joke about drugs and going to "space" I don't think I nailed the landing
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>>30439694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKMS62GrTI
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>>30439725
I feel that orb got way too overused
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>>30440417
That's why it had to go to space.

Permanently.
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>>30440486
It's like Valve knew they had another cake situation
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>>30436979
This is a good start to something interesting, please keep going.
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>>30442249
Thanks for the compliment, although I don't know If I have it in me to do an actual full story. I might, however use it as a basis for one shots
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So does anybody have any ideas for stories that they want to share?
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>>30444082
>Twilight sends Anon away
>Anon sends back a example of a tech item he built(light bulb)
>Twilight documents the item and how it functions
>Then she gets the idea to reverse-engineer it to create something similar but as a spell
>Magical lightbulb created
>Sends one to Anon to prove magic its still better than his imaginary inventions
>Anon sends something new
>Rinse and repeat
Totally not something i was planed for my green before i dropped it, nope
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>>30444142
>Twilight can't figure out the lightbulb
>thinks and thinks about it
>until the lightbulb comes on above her head
>then she's able to take THAT lightbulb and see how it works

I regret nothing.
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>>30444185
Thats more of a Pinkie thing, but goddamn if it doesnt fit it Pinkie was helping Twily for some reason
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>>30444142
>Sends one to Anon to prove magic it's still better than his imaginary inventions
If he's actual inventing them don't they cease being imaginary?

Anyway I think this idea has some potential. Maybe you can add something to it so that Anon's inventions are more easily mass producible because they can be made by anybody. While Twilight's might be of higher quality, but they require magic specialists to make so there's less of them
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>Wake up expecting some dank WiK green
>He s kill
>Again

>>30444972
Those imaginary inventions were meant to imply the big things he said before, like airplanes and the 'impossible' stuff
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>>30446623
It's only like halfway thtough WiK's update cyclce relax
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>>30447212
Everyday away from his green is suffering, without him, Iceman or LP I just dont know what to do.

The new greens just dont have that same feeling from the prompt you know...
Sure this new one from WiK doesnt either, but it got me captivated for more anyway
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>>30447967
Lp will suely return
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>>30447967
I miss my idea of a good time :-(
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>>30449559
Me too Anon, me too
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>>30447212
Oddly enough, I'm early this time. Funny how that happens.

>>30447967
Yeah. I went pretty far from the prompt with this one. Probably should have made it for Fimfiction rather than this thread. But I'd rather be here than there.

>”Grip! Pull! Drag!”

>Lyra grappled the dummy at Tranquil Stream’s command.
>She’d done her homework on this one, and it seemed as though the crotchety old stallion was pleased.
>Not satisfied, PLEASED.

>”They’re gliding. Stop them.”

>Lyra gripped the wingtip by the digit and pulled it downward.
>Were they a real pegasus trying to fly, they would have plummeted.

>”They’re flying. Break!”

>She gripped the metacarpus and alula and forced them in opposite direction.
>The plastic dowling that held the dummy’s structure together shattered.

>”Alright, Lyra. It’s time to come clean. What happened?”

>Lyra wasn’t entirely sure what he meant.
>She gave him a confused look.

>”That was vicious. When you first came here you didn’t want to learn from me, and you were repulsed by my teachings. Today you showed up early, wide awake, and ready to learn. You’ve clearly studied in your own time, and you’re not hesitating to attack. Now, why are you so eager?”

>Lyra honestly hadn’t noticed.
>But he was right.
>When he first told her to attack weak points- to go for the eyes even, she was horrified.
>But she had no problem with breaking wings now.
>Even though that wasn’t a real pony, it should have felt wrong.
>She was a pony; she was supposed to be a peaceful and virtuous being!
>Violence was supposed to be disgusting.
>And yet she’d hurt Twilight with barely a thought.
>Her master was growing irritated with her lack of answer.
>She had to say something.
>And she doubted a lie would suffice.

”A friend was in danger.”

>He raised a single brow, but said nothing.

“She’s okay now. I worry about the pony I hurt sometimes, but in the moment…”
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>>30450535
>”They weren’t important. What mattered was that you protected your friend, and you wouldn’t be able to forgive yourself if you failed.”

>Lyra really didn’t like thinking about it.
>The whole situation was terrible.

>”Remember that feeling. Hold onto it.”

>He walked into the back room and produced the foam blocks she’d been given on day one.
>He dropped them in front of her.

>”Attack.”

>Lyra took a deep breath.
>She started lying to herself.
>This wasn’t practice.
>This was real.
>That dummy was Twilight.
>The pony who was locking fillies and colts up in a grey box.
>The pony who was intent on spying on each and every thing that everypony did.
>The pony who was trying to lie, cheat, and steal to get her way.
>And if Lyra didn’t do anything, Derpy would wind up in a secret dungeon.
>Lyra wasn’t angry.
>She was furious.
>Twilight’s health didn’t matter.
>She didn’t need to worry about failure.
>Not because failing had no consequences.
>Rather it was because failing simply wasn’t an option.
>Lyra wasn’t thinking about morality or consequences or risk.
>She only had one thought in her head.

>”ATTACK!”

>She did.
>Foam blocks slammed into the dummy’s head.
>Wave after wave of blows crashes over the dummy.
>Vicious attacks rained down upon it in a steady torrent
>Each drop of her wrath flowed into each other to form a destructive steam.

>”Good.”

>She stopped.

“Good?”

>”Good. Not great, but good.”

>Lyra stared at the old stallion mouth agape.
>He wasn’t even being mean!

>”What, am I not allowed to give credit where it’s due? That was a vast improvement. Count them.”

>Lyre started counting the foam blocks.
>23, 24, 25, 26…
>They just kept going.

>”On day one you struggled to wield 12.”

>48, 49, 50.
>50 projectiles.
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>>30450551
>”Every stray thought sends ripples through your mind. You’ve found a way to push most of the noise out, and now you have much more space to work with. Remember that feeling.”

>Y-yes, master!”

>”It’s far from perfect. Whether you realise it or not there is still something distracting you. You’ll never best a manticore like that, but a couple timberwolves should be no problem.”

>Again, he immediately starts talking about monsters.

>”Keep practicing that on your own time. For now, we’re going to look into specialised forms of the Undertow.”

>He gathered the blocks up and returned them to storage.
>When he came back out he had two boxes in tow.

>”There are many different ways to execute Undertow, each with their own niche. If the monster you’re battling has thick scales, hide, or fat, blunt strikes will have little effect. You must then adapt. Giants will shrug off any blunt trauma you can deliver-”

>Giants are REAL?

>”So when doing battle with them you must wound them in another way, such as with a blade.”

>From the box he levitated a plastic ring.
>It didn’t look much like a blade.
>Until he started spinning it at a blinding rate.

>”By adding spin you can increase the relative velocity of the blade’s surface to the target’s flesh. Of course, this is much more difficult. One must orient the blades properly unlike blunt weapons, and they must add spin. This power is far more difficult to wield properly.”

>Dozens of rings shot out and slid across the dummy’s surface.
>They each let out a loud whining sound as they tore through the air.

>”Diamond tipped chakram are best for this of course. It’s doubtful a civilian such as yourself would be able to find those. You could get circular saw blades from a hardware store, though.”

>Lyra definitely had no need for that.
>He returned the rings to the box and produced from the other one a bundle of long, thin needles.
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>>30450562
>”Creatures with thick scales such as dragons or cetae are more vulnerable to puncture wounds than lacerations.”

>The needles slammed into the dummy at high speeds, sinking deep into it.
>In an instant it looked more like a porcupine than a pony.

>”Such wounds are usually insufficient to slow an enemy unless delivered in extremely large quantity. Poison is an effective solution. Again, equipping yourself would be challenging as a civilian. I suggest nails.”

>He pulled them all out and quickly bundled them up again.

>”And next we explore options for when we’re ill prepared. The best solution is to never be caught off guard and always be armed. However, this isn’t always possible. We must be able to improvise a weapon. Worst case scenario-”

>He spat.
>The saliva shot out with a bang, and to Lyra’s surprise, it left a deep gash upon the dummy.

>”Water delivered at high enough pressure can tear through steel. You’d be hard pressed to handle any serious monsters with this method, however. It doesn’t matter how talented you are, if you’re not prepared you’re at a disadvantage.”

”Master, please forgive me for asking. Why are you so obsessed with monsters?”

>”That’s what Mana Tide is for. Fighting monsters. It can be used on ponies, but there are easier ways to hurt a pony. This kind of power is for fighting things stronger than yourself.”

“A fighting style specifically for handling monsters? You’re… oh.”

>”You’re just now figuring out I’m from S.M.I.L.E.? I thought that was obvious.”

>In retrospect it was.
>Sweetie Drops had a connection with this stallion, and stated he was the best.
>Lyra had seen what Sweetie Drops could do.
>For her to call somepony the best, they couldn’t be a mere hobbyist.
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>>30450569
>”Don’t see the field these days of course. They’ve got no use for a broken down old fool like myself. I just teach the recruits. And you apparently. This goes without saying, but none of what I just said is true and S.M.I.L.E. doesn’t exist. And yes, that was a threat. Sweetie Drops placed a lot of trust in you. Don’t you dare ever cross her.”

“Of course!”

>Lyra would NEVER hurt her Bonny.

>”Good. Now go away. I have better things to do than look at you.”

>And he was being a jerk again.

>”Decide which of those three techniques you want to learn before your next lesson.”

“Yes, of course. Thank you master.”

>Lyra gave a deep bow on her way out.
>Being able to fight while unarmed seemed the best option.
>Why would she need the destructive force of the other methods?
>Although, she had no idea what she’d face in the future.
>Lyra was still hopeful she could continue to dig into whatever was going on without more violence.
>But she knew there was always a chance it would happen.
>What if she was attacked by a metal pony like “Applejack”?
>Would rocks be good enough?
>Without actually knowing what she’d be up against she really couldn’t say.
>Maybe more destructive power was needed.
>Lyra really didn’t know.
>She eventually put the decision off for later.
>At the moment, Lyra had other things to worry about.
>She marched her way to Twilight’s palace.
>As upset as she was, Lyra was still quite certain she’d be able to talk some sense into the princess.
>Twilight might be a terrible pony, but nopony was THAT bad.
>Lyra just had to talk some sense into her is all.
>As she drew close to the palace she could start to make out a few guards.
>Two pegasi carrying spears and bronze armor stood before the door.
>Somehow they weren’t as intimidating as she remembered.

>”HALT! The princess isn’t accepting any visitors today!”

>They immediately produced their spears
>Lyra took a couple steps back.
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>>30450576
“I just wanted to tell her about-”

>”You just wanted to leave. Nopony gets in here, no exceptions.”

“But-”

>”Unless the palace is about to explode we don’t want to hear it.”

“When will she be available for an audience again?”

>”One more word and you’re under arrest.”

>Lyra couldn’t believe it.
>She was expecting to have to wait in line or to take a number or SOMETHING.
>But to just be sent away like that?
>And THREATENED?
>This was NOT the Equestria she knew.
>The place where the concerns of the citizens mattered, where the crown cared.
>What kind of nightmare was she living in where the government didn’t care what the citizens thought?
>Where those in power could just ignore the public?
>Lyra wasn’t ready to throw in the towel though.
>She was still going to do something about this school situation.
>And she knew just where to go.
>Sugarcube corner lay on the edge of the urban rot.
>On its exterior it still resembled the confectionary of old, though these days the chimney lay dormant.
>Gas ovens had replaced the wood fired stoves of yesteryear, allowing for easier and cheaper baking.
>Something the whole town was glad for it seemed.
>A long line of ponies stretched out of the door.
>Every minute or so somepony would leave the bakery with a package in tow, and the line would inch forward.
>Lyra got in line.
>It took longer than usual to reach the front, but Lyra was determined.
>The lobby on the inside had been removed, and replaced with more display shelves and counter space.
>Business was good for the Cake family as they struggled to keep up with the growing city’s insatiable hunger for pastries.
>Lyra approached the counter when it was finally her turn.

“Hey there, Cup!”

>Cup Cake looked weary.
>Her movements were sluggish and her eyes unfocused.
>She was clearly overworked.

“Is Pinkie not here today?”

>”No. What do you want?”

“Oh. Do you know where she’s living these days?"
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>>30450585
>Cup grumbled loudly, but provided an address.
>Lyra, feeling guilty for wasting the busy mare’s time, purchased some cupcakes.
>With the pastries in tow she headed to Pinkie’s new home.
>It too lay on the periphery of town.
>Lyra knew it was hers the moment she spied it.
>The bubblegum pink cottage was a rather humble abode for one as celebrated as Pinkie Pie.
>An Element of Harmony and personal friend of a princess would be expected to live in a luxurious or ostentatious abode.
>But this was far from it.
>Pink walls, pink picket fence, pink door, and streamers hanging from a single tree upon her dead lawn.
>She approached and knocked confident that Pinkie would be glad to see her.
>Pinkie Pie was everypony’s friend.
>She knocked three times.
>And waited.
>And waited some more.
>Just when Lyra had decided Pinkie was out, the door creaked open.

>”Oh. Hi, Lyra.”

>The door opened fully.
>There was clearly something wrong with Pinkie.
>She was all hunched up, trying to avoid Lyra’s gaze.
>And it looked like she’d not slept in a couple days.

“Pinkie! Are you okay?”

>”Yeah. Yeah.”

>She blinked.
>Her eyes were real at least.
>Lyra moved in for a hug, mostly to check for metal.
>Partially to console the pony, but mostly for metal.
>A soft warm pony accepted the embrace.

“What’s wrong?”

>”I’m just worried about some things.”

“Such as?”

>”Oh. You know. This and that.”

>Lyra knew then she’d have to tread carefully.
>It looked like Pinkie was trying to keep the secret
>Was she on their side?
>Was what Twilight showed her really so terrible that Pinkie was okay with their constant lies?
>Looking at a depressed Pinkie Pie was nearly too much for Lyra to handle.
>The chipper and cheerful pony was always a ray of sunshine even in the darkest times.
>Seeing her so down was just wrong.

“I, uhh, I brought you some cupcakes?”
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>>30450592
>Lyra offered the purchase she’d made from Sugarcube Corner.
>She hadn’t planned this when she’d bought them, but it seemed the right thing to do.
>Pinkie accepted the package with a small smile.

>”Thank you. I don’t get to eat these as often as I’d like. We’re usually too busy at work these days. There are never any leftovers.”

“Please don’t think of that as payment. But, umm, I have a favor to ask. Have you been to the school lately?”

>”No. Miss Cheerilee said I’m not allowed there anymore. I’m too much of a distraction.”

>Lyra could easily see that.
>If Pinkie stopped by class would quickly devolve into frivolity and laughter.
>Which was exactly what Lyra was hoping to bring to them.

“Please come with me. I really need to show you something.”

>”Why me?”

“I wanted to talk to Twilight about it, but she’s not accepting any visitors. I’m hoping you’ll bring a few things to her attention.”

>Pinkie went to the kitchen to drop off her pastries.
>She came back and locked up her home before the two of them set out.
>It still seemed strange to Lyra that one would have to lock their doors.
>She knew it was needed though.
>In a small town like Ponyville used to be it was possible to know nearly everypony.
>You could figure out who you could and couldn’t trust.
>But what Ponyville had become was a totally different beast.
>No matter how sociable you were, most ponies would be strangers.
>There was no avoiding this fact. One had to deal with the change instead.
>Just one more way that Ponyville had changed for the worse.

>”So Twilight isn’t accepting visitors? If it was important why didn’t you just walk in?”

“Her guards threatened to arrest me.”

>”She has guards now? Oh. Of course she does.”

“Did something happen?”
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>>30450606
>Pinkie mulled the question over for a while.
>It seemed she wasn’t sure whether or not she was allowed to answer that question.
>Lyra knew the answer, of course.
>Twilight’s home had been broken into by what was described as a violent unicorn.
>That was of course not how Lyra saw herself.
>But after her last encounter with Twilight, she had to ask herself.
>Were they wrong?

>”There’s a lot of crime in Ponyville these days.”

“Yeah. It ain’t what it used to be. I miss the old Ponyville.”

>”Me too.”

>It struck Lyra as odd that they were doing so little to stem the tide of crime.
>Were they so short on resources that they really could do nothing to clean up the city?
>Was there no way to keep the streets safe?
>Tranquil Streams had mocked Lyra for many things when they’d first met.
>But the thing that brought the heaviest mockery was Lyra’s faith in the guard.
>Perhaps he was right.
>Because it didn’t seem like they were getting the job done.
>Sometimes it didn’t even seem like they were trying.
>The two of them drew close to the school.
>Lyra was nearly at the door when Pinkie spoke up.

>”I thought we were going to the school.”

“This is it.”

>”No it isn’t.”

“Yeah. This is it. They knocked over the old one a while ago because it wasn’t big enough.”

>”Where’s the playground? Why are there no windows? Where are the decorations?”

“That’s part of why we’re here.”

>”It’s better on the inside, right?”

>Lyra pushed the door open and stepped inside.
>A burly stallion eyed them carefully.
>The brown Earth pony was clearly unhappy to see them.
>Lyra didn’t recall there being any security guards last time.
>Perhaps they left after class was dismissed?

>”Parents, students, and faculty only. State your business.”

>She was clearly not a student.
>And Lyra suspected this pony knew the faculty.
>Parent it was then.
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>>30450614
“I’m thinking of moving to Ponyville. I wanted to take a look at the schools before deciding! My little sunshine deserves only the best.”

>”And why is an element of harmony here?”

“She offered to by my guide.”

>”Stay out of the classrooms until class is dismissed.”

>He stepped aside to let them in.
>Lyra was surprised with herself.
>She wasn’t sure when she’d become so used to lying.
>It just sort of happened.
>She’d been living a double life ever since that fateful night at the post office, and now it was second nature for her to outright lie.
>She’d gotten her way without any fuss.
>It was expedient and easy.
>And she wasn’t going to cause any trouble here.
>As far as she could tell, there was no good to be had from being honest with that guard.
>He would have almost certainly turned them away, and Pinkie needed to see what was going on.
>And yet it still felt wrong.
>Surely the truth had some inherent value, and she’d done the wrong thing.
>Surely.
>But still, everything turned out better this way.
>She’d reached the best outcome, something her principles likely wouldn’t have allowed.
>Was that good enough reason to abandon them?

>”The school didn’t used to need security guards.”

“It gets worse.”

>They started walking through the hallways.
>The walls almost seemed to close in on Lyra as the navigated the cramped concrete interior.
>And the cheap artificial lighting did little to improve the atmosphere.
>Cacophonous noises filled the hallways growing louder every time they passed a classroom.
>They weren’t cries of joy or excitement.
>These were the sounds of anarchy.

>”There doesn’t seem to be much learning happening.”

“No. There isn’t.”
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>>30450625
>They made their way to the top floor.
>The narrow stairwells were littered with paper and other detritus.
>It seemed as though the janitors were overworked too.
>Or perhaps even absent.
>Lyra didn’t know, nor did she really care.
>At this point clutter was the least of her concerns.
>Lyra brought them to Cheerilee’s classroom.
>And despite the guard’s orders, she opened the door.
>Pinkie stared in.
>And she quickly stepped out.

>”This is the detention hall, right? This is where they put the bad ponies as punishment?”

“This is grade 3. Today’s subject is-”

>Lyra poked her muzzle in and looked at the whiteboard up front.
>Cheerilee was giving her lecture despite the uncontrolled masses behind her.
>It was a waste of breath, but still she tried.

“Complex numbers.”

>She pulled out and closed the door.

“Personally, I think they should be worried about multiplication right now, but that’s just me.”

>Again with the math.
>It seemed like they didn’t study anything else these days.
>What was it that the crown was after?
>Why was math and math alone so important?
>Pinkie sat down in the middle of the hallway and rested her chin upon her hoof.
>It seemed as though she was deep in thought.
>What was there to think about?
>This was terrible and needed to stop!
>What was it that she knew that made this complicated?
>Lyra decided not to press the issue.
>Pinkie was intent on keeping the secret, and she doubted there was anything she could say or do to change that.
>All she’d accomplish by asking questions would be drawing attention to herself.
>It wasn’t long before class let out and all the foals started heading home.
>The hallways were packed as they flooded out of the building.
>Lyra and Pinkie managed to fight against the stream and make it into Cheerilee’s classroom.
>There was no such thing as order within these walls; paper airplanes and spitballs littered the floor.
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>>30450629
>There was even a smashed desk pushed off to the corner.

>”Lyra! And Pinkie?”

>She was smiling like a madmare at the sight of them.

>”I’m sorry, Cheerilee. I know I’m not supposed to be here.”

>”Oh, no! You’re PERFECT! We need to cheer those foals up and you’re just the pony to do it!”

>”But you said I’m distracting.”

>”Pinkie, this is not a house of learning. This is a madhouse! Your presence would only make things better.”

>True.
>It might well be that Pinkie could improve the situation here and now.
>But Lyra was aiming a bit higher than that.
>Pinkie could only be in one place at one time, and Lyra suspected all the schools were like this.
>Besides, that wouldn’t fix the education problem.
>Lyra needed to work a different angle.

“If you were to describe what it’s like to be a student here with one word, which word would that be?”

>”Torture. I’m thinking of telling everypony to start skipping class. They aren’t going to pass anyway.”

“Wouldn’t you lose your job?”

>”Who cares? I’m probably going to quit anyway.”

>Lyra couldn’t imagine Cheerilee as anything other than a teacher.
>This was wrong on so many levels.

“Maybe hold off on that for a bit. I’m trying to see if there’s anything we can do about this mess.”

>”I’ll go talk to Twilight.”

“You think you can fix this, Pinkie?”

>”No. But I have to try, right?”

>No?
>She doesn’t think this is going to stop?
>Again, what’s going on that’s so terrible?

>”I’m going to go right away. Sorry, Lyra, I don’t think they’ll let you in.”

>She walked away without another word, grim determination plastered upon her face.

“Sorry, Cheerilee! I need to run too!”
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>>30450639
>Lyra bolted from the school.
>She had little time if she was to do this.
>Twilight and Pinkie were about to discuss the school situation, and perhaps even the cause of all this madness.
>Lyra couldn’t get into the palace to eavesdrop, but she didn’t need to.
>She had a friend with a shiney new toy that could see sound.


>Derpy hovered just above Lyra as the two of them approached the palace
>She carried her contraband in her bags to avoid detection as they tried to blend into the crowd.

>”So, what are we doing here?”

“Looking for a good view. We need to hear what’s going on in there.”

>”There’s nothing high enough to get a good angle.”

>She was right.
>The tallest building in the vicinity was the palace itself.
>If it was in the heart of the city there’d be no shortage of ugly towers they could prop themselves in.
>But as it was they were short on options.
>There were only a few back alleys to be found where they’d have any privacy at all.

>”We need a mirror.”

“Good idea.”

>Lyra produced a single, shiney bit.
>After quickly polishing it against her coat she levitated it up and placed it in the branches of the crystal tree.
>The two of them ducked into a back alley and Derpy produced her laser microphone.

>”But Twilight, it’s cruel!”

>The sound was distorted and muddy.
>But they could tell what was being said.
>Barely.

>”I know. And truth be told, I didn’t realise just how out of hoof-”

>The sound cut out.

>”Sorry! It’s hard to hold it still like that.”

>It didn’t take long for Derpy to get it trained back on the bit and soon they had their muddy sound back.

>”Look, it happened one step at a time. Each time we made it worse, it didn’t seem so bad. Taking a step back and looking, it’s pretty terrible. You’re right.”

>”Well? Change it!”

>”No.”

>She knows it’s sick and she’s still not changing it?
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>>30450644
>”Pinkie, we’re looking for a miracle here, because honestly? We’re not going to make it without one. The final exam contains a problem we NEED to solve, but we can’t. If a SINGLE one of those foals manages to get their grade 12 we might just make it.”

>”And how likely do you think that is?”

>”Slim to none. We’d devote more resources to them if we thought they had a chance. But like I said, we’re looking for a miracle.”

>Derpy looked over to Lyra.
>She looked torn between confusion and fear.

>”Twilight, we’re probably going to fail, aren’t we?”

>”Yes. It… it looks bad. We’re running out of time, resources, leads- another source went dark last night. Most of them are gone now. And time just keeps slipping through our hooves no matter what we try.”

>The machine let out a gurgling sound.
>Lyra was pretty certain that was originally a sigh.

>”I know what we’re doing to Equestria, and I don’t like it. But if we’re to have a chance of surviving this we can’t stop now. I’m sorry, Pinkie. The new curriculum stays. And things are going to get worse before they get better.”

>”But it’s sick!”

>”DON’T YOU THINK I KNOW THAT?” I’m a MONSTER, Pinkie. I can’t stand to be in the same building as myself! I don’t for the life of my know WHY you can still stand to look at me. But it has to be done. And like I said, it’s going to get worse. Forget I was ever your friend, because I’m not worthy of that anymore.”

>”Twilight, you’re just trying to protect them. I can’t be mad at you for that.”

>”That’s because you don’t know what I’m doing next.”

>Derpy’s face had finally decided on fear.
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>>30450656
>”Twilight? You’re probably going to fail. Ponykind is probably going to be wiped out. Is this really how you want it to end? Do you want the last generation of foals to spend their lives locked up in a concrete box? Do you want them to go from cradle to early grave knowing nothing but the pain you’re putting them through? If we’re going to go out, shouldn’t we let them enjoy the time they have left?”

>”I can’t stop trying. Not until the bitter end.”

>”I’m not asking you to give up. Just ease up.”

>”I’ll… I’ll think about it. Talk it over with the other princesses. Maybe we can make it a little less terrible. Actually, would you mind coming with me to the next meeting? We might have a job for you. You’re good at making ponies happy. Maybe you can help us make them less sad? We don’t really have any resources to give you, but maybe you’ll be able to figure something out.”

>”I’ll try. Is it this bad all over? Or is…”

>The two of them had walked away, and the signal was lost.
>Lyra and Derpy sat in the alleyway for several minutes in silence.
>What they’d just heard was horrifying.
>There was indeed some terrible danger coming to Equestria.
>Something apocalyptic.
>And they were expecting to fail.
>Seconds slipped away.


That's it.

As many of you have probably figured out by now, the nature of the problem itself isn't the point of this green, at least not at this stage. What matters here and now is how they handle it. What they're willing to do to avoid it. Last time I got exactly the response I was looking for. Targeting the children was the right choice it would seem. Now that we've established that the price of success is high we can start asking the core question I'm trying to explore.
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>>30450686
I'm pleased by the writing and disturbed by the scenario you describe.

I'm trying to figure out why they need to find a child prodigy (or local equivalent) that can do calculus and beyond. Surely there are adult math professors aplenty in Equestria.

Is it something magical? "stopping the alien invasion requires a spell that can only be cast if a prepubescent child devises a rigorous proof of Goldblatt's Conjecture, and then you have to sacrifice him to the Dark Gods and use his blood to make a Cthulhu Repellent Potion," something like that?
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>>30450738
Unlikely, were it something like that they'd not be doing it to non-unicorns too but seemingly they haven't separated the schooling.

But that raises the question, why children? They have computers so it can't be a raw brain power problem or else they could use their network of computers to process the problem...unless it was something that computers can't conceive of. Something that can't be represented in 1's and 0's but then what mathematical problems are like that?
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>>30450863
It could be something along the lines of Foldit, which solved something in 10 days that had previously been unsolved for 15 years. It's possible for some things like our three-dimensional pattern matching and spatial reasoning abilities that can outperform a raw brute force calculation
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>>30451436
True but that is because scientists can't get access to enough computing power. I mean they can afford super computers but as seen with cloud computing these days you can quickly out compete them though sheer numbers. Which most likely the Ponies can since they have a literal nation's processing power to throw at the problem, assuming they haven't been exporting them too at which point we can't tell how much they have.

And if it were something like Foldit, why math? Why not something more spatially awareness developing? Like art or something?
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>>30450863
Computers haven't made the field of mathematics obsolete. There are a number of problems that could theoretically be solved by brute force, but are too complex for a computer to manage in a timely manner. Even with an entire nation's worth of processing power you will inevitable run into a wall, though it would take a vastly more complex problem. Mathematicians can solve the problem with creative solutions or simplify it by eliminating ranges that the solution might otherwise lie within. Furthermore, there ARE mathematical problems that computers cannot ever solve, such as the Wang tile problem. Any task that has an infinite number of steps is unsolvable, and other methods must be invented.

>>30450738
Hopefully the explanation will prove satisfactory. The real reason is because I needed to make life in this version of Equestria unpleasant. But I think I've found a reason that will make for good storytelling.
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>>30450863
>what mathematical problems are like that
Lots, actually. You cannot have a computer solve a problem if you cannot articulate the question in a way that the computer can understand.

A computer can crack an enigma machine, if only you know how it works in the first place.
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>>30452550
Oh I am aware but it seems excessive. But you raise an interesting point: it's a problem they need to resolve that can't be brute forced reasonably, is mathematical in nature and is more advanced than complex numbers and all the other stuff they have seemingly covered in lower grades. That means that it is something truly amazing and hard to conceive of.

Hell-fire, they might be trying to work out how to make a functioning Alcubierre drive or something.


>>30452807
True but these days we are making computers word the problems themselves and seeing as they have invisibility suits I am willing to believe they can do reliable self-programming computers.
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>>30452948
It's almost a given that those invisibility suits are stolen and/or reverse engineered. They may not have the experience necessary to implement a self-programming computer which still needs some fairly rigid rules.
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>>30450686
Propaganda machine when?
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>>30453067
True but if they have such things to reverse engineer they could almost certainly get functioning self-programming software.
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>>30450863
Or just hook them all up into an organic magic super computer. Then something.
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Woops. Forgot to say I'm looking for input. Of the three methods of attack mentioned at >>30450562 and >>30450569 which should minthoers look into?
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>>30453866
All three. Or none.
So if Lyra decides to use it they wont suspect her.
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>>30450569
I vote for the last one. Anything that can reliably damage steel if you're good enough should come in handy with them robots about.

Great work as always WiK!
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>>30453866
Spits, unarmed seems the best for a civ. Dont want to be caught carrying saws around, we could still make an excuse for nails but as a musician saws are out of the question.
So yea, i d go for unarmed, nails as our armed combat, but voting for unarmed
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>>30453866
Liquids.
https://youtu.be/_FN5xzeVluc?t=3m7s
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>>30452948
>Hell-fire, they might be trying to work out how to make a functioning Alcubierre drive or something.

There's still no reason to subject every child--or foal, if we prefer that word--in the country to what they're doing in order to do that. There is surely no shortage of adult professors of mathematics.

I still think this is going to be something much more horrible than that, which is going to require them to find and identify a dozen or so mathematical child prodigies, and tell them they're winning a prize--then do something hideous like surgically remove their brains and wire them together into some sort of ghastly organic Beowulf cluster, or use them as living sacrifices in some horrifying magical ritual to defeat whatever is coming.

It's obvious that computing power alone isn't going to solve the problem. It's obvious that mathematical expertise isn't either--and surely they already have college professors who have been doing theoretical mathematics for a living since the main cast's parents were in diapers.

They appear to need to identify certain very, very special young children. And given the tone of what we've already seen, they appear to be planning to subject them to something absolutely monstrous.
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>>30454096
Yeah I suppose you are right. However my point stands: they are doing it to non-unicorns so it can't be a spell.


Still, odd to be interesting to find out what they are trying to do.
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>>30454147
Think a little darker.

Maybe it's a spell--but it's not the kid who has to cast it. The kids are just going to be rendered down for spell components, and Purplesmart or maybe Sunbutt herself will cast the actual spell, standing in the center of a vast circle drawn on the floor in the blood of child geniuses, after first personally cutting all their hearts out with a flint knife on an altar to the Dark Gods.
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>>30454147
>They are doing it to non-unicorns
[citation needed]

No race is free from that new school program, and if you even try to bring up Celestia's School then sorry to say but it wasnt ever brought up, besides Lyra's having studied there in the past, we dont know about how its doing in the present

>Ib4 but Celestia's School focuses on learning spells
And you never had even one(1) off-topic course during college/university? I doubt it teaches only spells, and even if it does who s to say they dont need some kind of starswirl ready to make a spell with the math problem after it gets solved?

Therefore I dont think even unicorns are safe from the program familia
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>>30454205
That is my point. All the races, even the ones which can't do spells and shit, are being put through this system. If it was a spell that they needed to cast it would just be unicorns they were testing.


You just hugely misunderstood what I meant is all.
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>>30454229
Oh, "they ARE doing it to non-unicorns", for some reason i read that as 'arent'.
I should lay off mlpol for a while, goddamn unicorn supremacists...
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>>30454246
I find it's generally a good idea to re-read someone comments before arguing with them. You may realize they're joking or that you misread something
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>>30454627
>Not overreacting immediately
But Anon, that s no fun ^:)
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>>30454797
True I won't deny that, but a quick re-read can save you from feeling like a fool for a moment
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>>30453866
>clouds of buzz saws
>Raining poison needles.
> Spit that can cut steel.
Just how hardcore is SMILE anyway?
And I'm loving this. It's a morality play but a really weird one. Most are about upholding a virtue or how tempting evil is but this one is so utilitarian. Twilight knows what she's doing is wrong but thinks not doing it would be worse. I wonder how far they'll go to make it through this.
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>>30457066
>Just how hardcore is SMILE anyway?
Hey if they're going to be facing down monsters you want them to be a pretty hardcore crew
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bump?
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>>30457066
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>9
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>>30457066
When the alternative is the apocalypse it becomes easy to justify the most heinous of acts if there is even the slimmest possibility of working
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>>30436923
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https://hesperia.gsfc.nasa.gov/fermi/gbm/rsp/20110308/glg_cspec_n7_bn110308_2331_980_v00.rsp2
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>>30461786
how do i open rsp2 files?
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>>30461923
All I could find were what appeared to be something that requires an external radio device, but I'm not sure if that's correct.
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>>30461786
Is this science? https://hesperia.gsfc.nasa.gov/rhessidatacenter/complementary_data/goes.html
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>9 - 1
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>>30461898
>>30461923
>>30462217
>>30462412
Looks like a special filetype for Software defined radios. Will check it out further.
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>>30463475
Yup. Looks like it is a recording from an SDR. Specifically, one onboard the Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope (Hence the picture), Looking at... Something that I can't be assed to find.

Anyway, it seems to contain binary data, probably a recording of whatever signal the telescope picked up, and the date is 2011-03-08T23:31:58, with a location of... This:
>EQUINOX = 2000.0 / Equinox for RA and Dec RA_OBJ = 349.0 / J2000 RA of source, degrees DEC_OBJ = -4.7 / J2000 DEC of source, degrees SRC_AZ = 0.1 / Azimuth of source in spacecraft coordinates SRC_EL = 17.5 / Elevation of source in spacecraft coordinates GEO_AZ = 204.0 / Azimuth of geocenter in spacecraft coordinates GEO_EL = -40.0 / Elevation of geocenter in spacecraft coordinateDET_ANG = 106.4 / Angle between source and detector normal GEO_ANG = 85.9 / Angle between geocenter and detector normal
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http://pastebin.com/PYUyfYwj
>”Come on Ash, you’ve gotta at least try and take some of my advice.”
“Shut up. I’m tryink.”
>”Doesn’t look like it from here.”
>If you weren’t way up here, you’d give him a good smack
>Just enough to remove some teeth
>You hate heights
>You’re a Unicorn
>You weren’t meant to be up this high
>Save it for the Pegasi
>”I told you already, don’t act like it’s a suit. Ignore it and act like it’s apart of you. Now jump down from there and test out the shock absorbers or we can’t get going.”
>You mutter some expletives in your native tongue under your breath as you step towards the lip of the platform
“Oh just jump off zey say. You’ll be fine zey say.”
>You take deep breaths
>In and out
>You leap from the platform
>You can feel the wind rushing past the suit
>It’s cold
>The ground comes up quicker than expected
>You slam into the concrete hooves first
>At the moment of impact a field of magic appears around your hooves
>It dissipates and wicks away up your legs
>”Looking good, Ash.”
>You turn and immediately backhoof him
>Or you would have if he hadn’t ducked under it
“Striker you ass. You know I ‘ate heights.”
>”Hey look on the bright side. At least now if you fall there’s no way for it to kill you.”
“If I’m already technically a zombie, does it really matter?”
>You watch as Striker rolls his eyes
>”You had a pulse the whole time, you can’t just keep saying you were dead.”
>Frankly, you should have been dead
>That impact should’ve turned you into red paste
>Your magic wasn’t even enough to stop you from getting this mangled
>You’ll be sure to return it in full to Princess Twilight
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>>30464151
>”Now look Ash, I know you don’t ENJOY going through training, but if you don’t, then you’ll never figure out how to use that suit well enough.”
>You call Striker a few names in Prench, even though you know he can’t understand you
>”Yeah yeah I know, my mother was a whorse. Now hold still. We’re going to hit you with a bunch of stuff.”
>That didn’t sound good
“What KIND of stuff.”
>You watch Striker in the control room speak with some of the lab coats
>Damned eggheads
>”Apparently they’ll be throwing strong magical energy at you, along with some other stuff.”
>You grumble under your breath
“I JUST asked you WHAT kind of stu-“
>Before you can finish your sentence, the wall in front of you slides away to reveal a strange looking contraption, and somepony standing behind it
>You knew who that somepony was
>It was Nightwatch
>A very powerful Unicorn
>Not as strong as somepony like Starswirl, or Twilight
>But he was up there
>”Nightwatch here is gonna toss a couple spells into the magic amplifier and we’re going to see if the suit holds up.”
>Going to see
>Going
>To see
>What, were you just a test subject now?
>Nightwatch’s horn glows and he fires a concentrated laser of magic into the amplifier
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>>30464154
>Now you’d seen this thing before
>It’s real simple
>And very practical
>Most of the time it’s used for lifting extremely heavy objects when cranes are out of the question, as the heavier an object is, the harder it is for a Unicorn to lift it with their magic
>Sometimes, it’s been used like a mining laser to carve out space for this site through the rock
>Other times -like now- it’s used in experimentation
>So when Nightwatch’s magical laser gets focused through the crystal lenses, you can HEAR it before it even gets close to you
>You brace for impact as you hear the crackling of the emitter at the front fire off
>The magical energy hits the suit and… You can’t even feel it
>The force of it has been completely dispersed
>Actually, it hasn’t
>It’s being absorbed
>As the suit absorbs the magical energy, you see a bar filling on your heads up display
>This suit really was fancy
>It continues to fill the longer the magic is fired at you
>You hear a loud sound and look down, only to find that near the bottom of your forehooves, 8 holes have started to emit heat and magical energy
“Ahhh, iz zis normal?”
>”Perfectly normal, Ash. The suit uses those 4 holes on each hoof to make account for overheating.”
>A target dummy appears to your left, just a few meters away
>”The boys up here say you can discharge the excess magical energy through them as well. Go ahead and try it on that target dummy.”
>You look up at the glass they’re watching from, then back to the dummy
>The bar on your HUD has filled completely, and another seems to be overtaking it, filled about 40% of the way and slowly draining
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>>30464159
>You turn and aim your hoof, firing off a conical shockwave of excess magic and heat
>Magical particles expand outwards from your hoof before dissipating into the air
>The dummy is blown back and set ablaze from the superheated air
>And this was no piddly little bonfire either
>If this suit wasn’t insulating you, you’re pretty sure you would have to be much further away than you are now
>You hold up your hoof
“I like zis.”
>You look at the burning training dummy
“I like zis a lot.”
>”Yeah, I’m sure you do, Ash. Just be careful. I’m sure you’ve seen the little meter, right? The suit can only safely hold 200% and even then, it’s dangerous. Any more and you risk overloading it.”
>You stretch the wings of the suit and you look back over it
“What ‘appens if it gets overloaded, zen?”
>He speaks with the eggheads up in the observation booth
>”Simply put? We don’t know. Assume something terrible. At best? It shuts down from overheating. At worst? It’ll probably explode or something. You don’t have to worry about that if you don’t absorb too much, and you manage venting the excess.”
>Looking at the little venting holes, you rotate your hoof a bit
“Does it ‘AVE to be vented like zis? Can I use it some ozer way?”
>”As of now, yes. They’re looking into being able to route the energy to different functions in the future.”
>You chuckle
“Works for me.”
>You can’t wait to give Princess Twilight a taste of this
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>>30464167
>SPRING
>Sunset Airlines stands at the fore of the ship, wind slowly tousling her mane
>She looks out over the horizon as the sun rises over the Forgotten Sea
>The Prench mare had since changed into the outfit you’d first met her in
>And you have to admit, she looks really cute in that green flight jacket
>But she looks… Different somehow
>You suppose it could just be the scars and the eyepatch
>But it’s not just that
>She looks… More confident
>Hell, she looks like you’d see her on some propaganda poster
>”This mare is your friend. She fights for your freedom.”
>Though, Sunset doesn’t really fight for any cause
>It made you wonder why she actually does this
>Even after she’d been given PLENTY of reasons to stop
>She still wants to keep going
“Hey, Sunset.”
>She looks up at you with her one, functioning eye
>”Hm? What iz it, mon cher?”
“Why do you keep doing this? What keeps you going?”
>She looks up at the sky and closes her eye
>”Why does anypony do anyzing?”
>You’re about to let out a groan at such a hippie answer when she cuts you off by continuing
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>>30464170
>”Aha, no I do it because I enjoy it. Even after everyzing zat has happened. Ever since I was a little filly, I wanted to adventure like zis. To explore ze wide open skies. I expected zis. Well… Not ZIS exactly, but I expected ze danger. I knew it wasn’t going to be all sunshine and rainbows. I knew I was going to get hurt… Maybe even die out here. But ze allure of charting ze unknown lands, discovering treasure, ancient pony civilizations, perhaps even going down in history as a great explorer… I can’t keep myself away.”
>She turns to you
>”Surely, you have aspirations too, yez Anon?”
“Maybe back when I was on Earth, sure.”
>If aspirations of living another day counted, yeah
“It’s kinda weird to live among beings that nearly have their lives planned out for them by the time they get their butt stamp.”
>”Cutie mark.”
“Yeah that.”
>Such a dumb name
>”But zat’s somezing I find so interesting about you Anon. Your species isn’t limited by a cutie mark. You can do anyzing!”
>She sounds like your mom now
“Guess that’s true.”
>”So? What was it zat you wanted to do, Anon?”
>She flaps her wings a little in anticipation
“Me? Coming here to horseland. Wanted to find a nice pony, settle down, buy a house. Y’know, all that American dream, apple pie, white picket fences type shit.”
>Sunset blushes, gently rubbing at her eyepatch
>”Heh, eheh, I suppose zis isn’t quite what you imagined, iz it?”
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>>30464172
“I mean, it’s not what I had in mind but I still think it’s nice; in an explore-y adventure-y kind of way. The only way I would’ve ever come close to this sorta thing back on Earth was books or video games.”
>Sunset grins and flutters up, wrapping her hooves around your neck
“Constant threat of death aside, this has been a great experience so far.”
>You can feel her grip tighten, and your airflow diminish
>”We don’t talk about zat, Anon. Zat’s bad speak aboard Le Rossignol and will bring bad luck.”
>You can communicate only through choked gurgling and patting upon her back
>Sunset lets go and pats your head
>”Now, if you’re done speaking of such zings zat won’t be named, we’ve got a lead on zat oracle zing ze Prench ponies were speaking of.”
>Rubbing your neck, you take a seat on the deck
“And what would that be?”
>”I couldn’t sleep last night, so I started going zrough ze books I keep aboard mine ship. I remembered reading once zat Zebrican shamans, in order to get zeir abilities to divine ze future, had to make a pilgrimage.”
>You raise an eyebrow and she takes your silence as a cue to keep going
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>>30464175
>”So I found my book on Zebrican legends again and gave it anozer read. Apparently, zere are two places in Zebrica called “Ze Bleach” and “Ze Shade.” It’z supposed to represent zeir stripes. Ze book said zat zey speak wiz somezing zeir, in zose lands.”
“So you think that these places have the oracle you’re looking for?”
>She frowns slightly
>”Zat’s ze problem. I can’t be sure if it’z just a legend or not”
“And why are you even going after this oracle anyway? What are you going to use it for?”
>”I… Mmh…. Whatever it iz, ze Prench CAN’T get zeir hooves on it. Zere’s no telling what zey would do wiz it… But I get ze feeling it won’t turn out well for ze rest of ze world. So maybe if we could… Protect it? Or somezing. I’m not sure. I-I’ll figure it out, okay?”
>It’s odd
>The way she can sound so unsure, yet sound so confident at the same time
>She truly believed in her ability to be able to stop whatever it is the Prench had planned
>And…
>For the most part, so did you
“If they were talking about it, they must think -or know- that it exists. So, I think you might be on the right track. Should I tell the crew that we’re plotting a course to Zebrica?”
>The sun had completely risen at this point, casting long shadows all along the deck
>The dance, and you can swear that the sun almost reflects off the feathers of Sunset’s outstretched wings
>”Let zem rest. I’d like you to join me at ze helm, Anon. Keep me company, hm?”
>Sunset smiles warmly at you before she begins to trot away


Not a huge update, still a fucking footnote compared to WiK's but I think it'd be a bit silly if I didn't save a little bit for an update in the future, wouldn't it?
I'll just use that as an excuse to hide the fact that I haven't been working on fotn as much as I'd like.

As always, the pastebin is updated.

Oh, and I'm back too, that's neat.
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>>30464186
I guess most anon's are t awake yet, but welcome back, I know quite a few anons are gonna be happy after they wake up/ when they check the thread.
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>>30464186
I'm so happy to see you back Yoohoo
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>>30464167
I got to say that seems like quite the suit, also welcome back
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>>30464186
Fuck. Yes.
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>>30464151
YOOHOO'S BACK WITH MORE COMFY FRENCH PONER WOO
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eight bump
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>>30464186
We missed you, you faggot.
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>>30466498
All hail to french poner
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Got a question, there and good fairly light hearted stories that don't cliffhanger at the worst possible moment that anyone would recommend I read?
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>>30468791
From the pastebin in the OP both entries under ThatCelestAIguy

http://pastebin.com/AdCtbkKv (Friendship is Inevitable)
http://pastebin.com/WnydjvyC (CelestAI shorts)
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>>30468791
The one that just updated is fairly lighthearted
Most of the time
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>>30450535
Hey are you planning on continuing Steel Sancuary?
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>>30469410
No. Where the fuck have you been?
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>>30469443
Not here apparently
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>>30469054
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>>30469410
Well bright side the story's complete so it's not that big a deal that he'sd not working on it
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>>30468791
>PeteQ
http://pastebin.com/9H8f7A0s <--"On Magic and Science" (Science Rainbow Dash)
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>>30468791
Flight of the Nightingale
https://pastebin.com/PYUyfYwj
Comfy french poner
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>>30471336
I miss PeteQ's story
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>>30472394
where did he go?
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>>30474220
If I remember his priority order from a while back Janitor Anon was above this.
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>>30474795
Well as long as he's still writing stories that's fine.
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>>30475170
Although it does look like his pastebin has not been publicly updated in a while.
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>>30468492
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>>30469023
>http://pastebin.com/WnydjvyC (CelestAI shorts)

I hate to be That Guy, I really do. But, from the link:

>Based on the idea of "Friendship is Optimal" (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/62074/friendship-is-optimal)
>Note: I haven't actually read FiO. From what people have said about it, it seems too
>"mind-rapey" for my tastes. I just like the idea of Celestia being this big, motherly AI
>that is completely devoted to every human's well-being. Even if they don't want it.
>This is a series of incidents between Anon and the completely benevolent artificial intelligence
>Celestia who has taken up residence in his home.

Apparently he hasn't. CelestAI is neither motherly nor benevolent. "She" is the wrong pronoun, don't anthropomorphize it, you're attributing to it human mental and emotional traits it does not have. Anything else gets spoilery, so I will just say FiO is an absolutely terrifying horror story about the dangers of creating a strong artificial intelligence without building in constraints on its behavior, not a comfy story about your virtual AI pony waifu.

And she doesn't wear shorts.
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>>30478956
Like he says he's aware of what FiO is like, but he wants a story were in it the core element of Celestia as an AI was done differently to be a more light-hearted story
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>>30481308
Yes, quite.
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>>30454046
Would a musician have a pouch full of thin metal picks?
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>>30478956
>not wanting an AI to satisfy your values for all eternity
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>>30482257
Funnily enough, i am a musician and for my violin which has nothing of metal we have the tuning fork(A - 440) and other wood/rock accessories, so for a lyre, which is a metal instrument, surely there must be like 5 different parts, not even counting the strings themselves which are usually also made of metal as far i know

Still, what I actually meant in that first post was that she could get nails and say that she was going to use them for her house or something like that, sure she wouldnt be able to get away with a dozen, but she would still be able to have some at least
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>>30483329
I always pictured Lyra as using catgut strings.
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>>30484041
maybe she could use wanting to try metal strings as an excuse to carry them?
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>>30482841
>implying that suicide would satisfy my values
>implying it greatly matters to me what an AI would do afterwards with my earthly remains
>implying that a digital simulation of uncertain fidelity, programmed to think it was me, would really be me, or even could be, in principle
>implying that I, myself, wouldn't be deader than fried chicken before the simulation began
>implying I wouldn't remain so, however much processing power was devoted to the simulation
>implying it would matter to me whether the simulation saw pretty sunsets that were recorded as opposed to procedurally generated

Nah man. Nah.
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>>30484347
High e guitar strings have cut me before when they would occasionally break. Maybe that's an option?
Have her whip the wires like spikes?

Oddly enough, I switched to bass guitar. And guess who used metal pics, because I got tired of breaking plastic picks?
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>>30485571
>Have her whip the wires like spikes?
That sounds incredibly painful.
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>>30486626
You you you you.
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>>30486700
???
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>>30488474
>"If I whip the wires like spikes," she asked, "Would that work as a weapon?"
"That sounds incredibly painful."
>"I'm a big mare."
"Four 'you's."
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>>30488536
Ahhh I guess I should have counted the number of yous
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>>30481308
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>>30481308
bampu
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>>30490803
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>>30492364
Poor Appleborg. She doesn't look like she's very happy with Progress.
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>>30492441
to be fair she did lose her hind legs and doesn't know how to control the strength of her new robolegs
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>>30492852
she's also missing some fun bits
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>>30493812
If she can't control the strength of her legs would you really want to risk it sticking your dick in there
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>>30494880
>If she can't control the strength of her legs would you really want to risk it sticking your dick in there

>implying that isn't part of the appeal
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Borp
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>>30492364
Oh look, it's Bunnie Rabbot!
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>>30497374
well if you want to stick your dick in a vice grip don't let me stop you
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>>30498944
If it became habit-forming, it might even become a vice, which would have a tremendous grip on me.
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>>30499279
Something feels off about how that sentence is worded
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>>30500310
It's probably because I was going for some wordplay, vise/vice.
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>>30499279
Solid effort, Carlos.
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But if I and Tiny Pony made a very small human babby with hairy feet, would sex with her be Hobbit-forming?

HUE HUE HUE HUE HUA
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>>30501711
I believe this an question for the satyr thread over here: >>30414874
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early morning bump
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>>30504273
Now that looks like a much happier AJ then the other pic
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>>30505365
>>30503500
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>>30505365
well she does have booze
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It's too late for this bump.
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>>30510391
I've woken up fucking tired beyond comprehension, but fully awake, with nerves frayed.
Consciousness is hell bump.
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b
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>>30511352
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>>30510658
That feeling of being simultaneously extremely tired and fully awake is fucking torture
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>>30512988
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A lot of people said that last chapter was really disappointing. I can see why they said that, to be honest, and I hope this update will be better than last.


>"Biology in Eden was...awfully odd, to say the least. Actually, it was a sort of mixed bag. On the one hand, we found many instances of organisms from Earth like squirrels, grasses, trees, et cetera. Upon closer examination, of course, they were slightly different from Earth species, but that shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone familiar with the concept of evolution. However...there were a few instances of very, very unusual flora and fauna. I won't go into detail about them - that comes later - but let's just say that this stuff is dangerous on a whole new level. That blue flower...I'm never touching anything again without at least a full hazmat suit.”
>-Cassel Donaldson, Biologist

-Luna-

>"Heave, gentlecolts!" the lieutenant yelled as his subordinates pulled on the rope. "We have to get three more tents up by sundown, and I'm not impressed!"
>Luna watched the spectacle as she walked through the encampment's wide, open pathways. Her inspection was almost complete, and from the looks of it nothing was out of place. Everything, from the positioning of the tents to the drilling of the troops, was perfect, just as expected of the Royal Guard.
>With the enormous influx of reinforcements, a lot of expansion was necessary to shelter and feed her small army. At the moment, the shelter part was being taken care of. And with the new pathway that had been hacked out of the underbrush, a steady stream of supplies would be coming in every day.
>"Now, Princess," the unicorn to her side remarked, "there's been some hiccups with the supply pathway. For one, there's been reports of timberwolves in the brush along the sides of the path, but that's to be expected in the Everfree. No attacks yet, but the convoys are guarded should they occur. Speaking of which, we've just received the grain carts..."
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>>30515024

>"Yes, yes, very good, Feather Quill. Great," Luna mumbled.
>She halfheartedly nodded as her assistant rattled off statistics and predictions, the tons and gallons of provisions and supplies becoming mixed up with the morale evaluations. There were other, more important issues for her to consider. Her scouts had reported some very unsettling observations from the foreign encampment - in just a week, they had expanded to over a hundred times their previous size. They had a secure supply line, too; that portal in the middle of their camp couldn't be anything else. And they weren't just taking up space, either. Their tents were clustered tightly together with barely any room to breathe, and the widest pathway through their encampment was constantly clogged with strange carts and wagons that moved without a puller. Or maybe "trackless train" was the proper term?
>"...and so, our stocks are topped off and your troops are feeling great, even though they'll be stuck in the Everfree Forest for quite a while. We're in good shape," said Feather Quill with a sense of pride.
>"Of course, they're...trained soldiers, yes. What was next in the itinerary?"
>"Well, right now your second in command is assessing the strength of our forces with the Mage and Engineer division captains. I would recommend you speak with them."
>"Of course, of course. Where are they?" she muttered, her eyes pointed down at the dirt and grass.
>"In front of you, Princess."
>Luna suddenly froze, then looked up from the ground. They really were in front of her, sitting around a thin, spindly portable table underneath the small pavilion that had been set up for them. The three ponies hardly noticed the alicorn princess standing before them, each one carrying on with their business as if nothing was out of the ordinary.
>"Oh."
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>>30515034

>She walked up to the congregation and pulled a chair out, then sat down as she assessed the others. Commander Saber Parry, a butter-coated unicorn with countless commendations from Canterlot Military Academy, stared at the map in front of her as she conversed with Catapult. Catapult was a strong yet knowledgable stallion whose brown fur was the same shade as the wood of the siege equipment he commanded. And Spellbound, the Second Tier Mage, was happily dozing off in her chair and robes as her old, grey mane flowed over her closed eyes and wrinkled face.
>The princess waited for the perfect moment to interject between Saber's and Catapult's conversation before speaking. "Hello," greeted Luna in a calm yet demanding voice as the two finished discussing the battle formations they were planning.
>"Princess Luna! Ma'am!"
>"Oh, hi Princess," Catapult yawned out.
>"At ease, Saber. So," she said as she leaned back in her seat, "you've been discussing our ability to counter the invaders?"
>"Well, I wouldn't call them invaders, Princess. They haven't really done much besides set up camp. And trust me, if the need arises, I can assure you that our cannons and trebuchets will rain havoc upon them," said Catapult with a smile.
>Luna raised an eyebrow, dubious of the siegemaster's claims. "That is good, Catapult, but how fast are your engineers?"
>"The fastest and the most accurate in all of Equestria, I assure you. Our payloads always hit their mark," he bragged boldly.
>"A boastful claim, for sure, but I don't doubt that you'll do well. And Saber, I've seen your troops train. They are quite formidable, yes?"
>"They're not the average conscript, Princess Luna. They're professionals," Saber stated in a firm, resolute growl.
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>>30515040

>"But do they have experience?" Luna asked, her lips tightening as she stared at Saber. The pony could beat her chest all she wanted, but it was still up to chance how the Royal Guard would perform in an actual battle. The last time Equestria's forces faced a real threat was four hundred years ago, when a militant Gryphon monarch tried to expand his kingdom by sword. The crushing of his army at Three Claw Plateau marked the beginnings of the Long Peace, a period of stability and prosperity where wars became naught but fanciful tales of valiant battles and brave heroes. Sure, Celestia's ponies had done well in that final battle, but that was in a darker age. War and death were just as commonplace as peace and harmony.
>But after centuries of peace, her ponies had become soft. She recalled the night of her return, when her subjects cowered at the hooves of Nightmare Moon; how had nopony thought to fight back? A millennium ago, ponies actually stood up for themselves, taking arms against all that would threaten their families. Luna glanced at Catapult, who was absentmindedly carving his name into the table with a switchblade. Training was important, but it could never predict whether a fresh recruit would hold his ground or tuck tail and run. That was a constant in warfare, no matter when or where.
>The problem was that everypony, from the officers to the grunts, was a fresh recruit.
>"Hah! Let me tell you, the Royal Guard is trained to stand firm against all that may harm Equestria! Nothing can stop the unstoppable, and that's us!"
>Luna chuckled, both in appreciation of the pony's bravado and uneasily at the thought of alien weaponry. "Is that so?"
>"I do say so!" Saber exclaimed.
>"Well," the Princess sighed, "I suppose you won't mind if I let you in on some facts. Have you not read the intelligence reports?"
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>>30515050

>"Oh please, who would need to? We're unstoppable! I did skim over it though, and our opponent should be easy to tackle. Why wouldn't they?" she asked.
>Of course she hadn't, Luna thought to herself. If she had, she wouldn't be so gung ho about combat with...them. This is definitely her first battle, too; she's raring for a fight. Maybe when she sees the bloody bodies of both friend and for, she'll reconsider.
>"Very well. First off, you might as well throw away your armor. It'll be useless against their foe."
>"...What do you mean?"
>"I was there when we first encountered them. Three ponies in enchanted blacksteel plate armor dropped like stones within a second. That was against one of them, by the way."
>"Well...that's no issue! Armor will just weigh-"
>"There's at least five hundred of them in their camp. That renders your ground forces dead meat."
>"Then our pegasi-"
>"Dead as well," Luna bluntly asserted. "Their weapons have no respect for the airborne nor the grounded, I can guarantee that."
>"But..."
>"We have to consider defense, too. If we were hit by them, our ponies wouldn't fly or run fast enough to escape. Those who would try to stand with their swords and spears will get a hole punched through their torsos, large enough to stick a hoof through."
>"I...no, hold on, give me a minute..."
>"Catapult, how destructive are your trebuchets?"
>"What? Oh," he quickly replied, "we've developed some mighty fine payloads that I'm willing to try out. There's an especially nasty mixture in there that combines thermal crystals with flash powder, and it'll be effective." He snatched a pile of nearby papers with his teeth and slid it over to Luna.
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>>30515053

>"Great. But you're going to be attacking them, right?" Luna asked. She grabbed the wood-pulp paper and scratched her head, the modern thaumic notation flying just an inch above her head.
>"Well...that was Saber's idea, to have both offensive and defensive plans. I think the former won't be necessary, but we can't be underprepared. Right, Princess?"
>"That is true. However..."
>"Yes?" Catapult straightened up in his chair.
>"Can you take down a hydra?"
>"Excuse me, Luna?" he asked, flabbergasted at the odd question.
>"Are you able to kill or incapacitate a full-grown hydra?"
>"U-Um," he stuttered, "well, that is...the trebuchets aren't going to be effective against a moving target, and neither is our siege equipment. That leaves our cannons. We have a total of twelve medium general-purpose cannons as well as four heavy siege cannons, and our cannoneer teams are quite skilled. I'd say that we'd be able to take it down, but just barely."
>"Is that so? Impressive, I have to say." Luna smiled as the words left her lips.
>"Thank you, Luna. But really, it-"
>Her smile disappeared in an instant, the warm smirk suddenly replaced by a stern poker face. "Not good enough, unfortunately. You know how many of those beings were present during our first encounter?" she asked.
>"I...yes, of course," said Catapult, in a much less enthusiastic tone.
>"Three. And I would like to remind you, siegemaster, that an adult hydra corpse is rotting away just outside of their encampment. Put the puzzle pieces together. Three of them managed to do what you can only do with an entire platoon," she chastised, "and there's four thousand of us against...who knows how many? Five hundred? Perhaps a thousand, more likely. This goes for you too, Saber, what I'm about to say."
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>>30515062

>The mare and stallion both looked at her with equal amounts of shock, uncertainty, and remorse.
>"We know that we are outmatched. But I do not know to what extent. Perhaps we can defeat them on the offensive, perhaps we will reach a bloody stalemate, perhaps they can slaughter us all without losses. This is not the time for blind assaults; we have to hold our cards in reserve."
>"What do you mean, Princess Luna?" Catapult asked.
>"Wait until we can assess their intentions, their powers and abilities, and their strengths and weaknesses. Then, and only then, can we properly formulate a plan."
>"I don't know if that'll help...they seem so impossible to fight now," Saber Parry sighed.
>"Oh, please," a high, croaky voice called put from the other side of the table.
>"But Spellbound," Saber exasperatedly yelled, "didn't you hear Princess Luna? One of theirs is worth ten of ours."
>"And I read the stupid report," the unicorn mage sighed. She barely moved as she spoke, as if she was a statue raveled in the rags and cloth of a Royal Magician. "I've been reading for my entire life, and my eyes still work as well as the day I was born. And I say that we have nothing to be concerned about."
>"Oh, we don't?" Luna asked. Something about the words the mage spoke seemed different, like they were more definite.
>Spellbound's eyes widened. "Of course not!" she suddenly cackled, her open maw revealing two sets of bare gums. "Who do you think won all those wars? Us! We ponies have the power of magic on our side, and we've used it in every battle since the beginning of time!"
>"So that's our solution, then?" Catapult asked.
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>>30515082

>"They can't use magic. We can. And I've yet to see magic fail us on the open fields of battle," said Spellbound.
>"Very well," Luna smiled. "I suppose that's another rule of war I forgot about; playing to our strengths. But..."
>"What is it, Princess?" Saber asked.
>"...we still haven't seen the full extent of their powers." Luna frowned, then rested her head on the table. "I suppose we will find out soon enough."

-Andrew-

>"Andrew? Andrew Martinez? Are you present?"
>Andrew looked up, searching out the voice from among the eternal bustle of the Portgate operations floor. He let go of the cart handle as he looked around amongst the mass of personnel, the shout just barely detectable through the din and noise.
>"Martinez! We need you!"
>The technician pulled another blue-clothed worker away from his work and asked him to take care of his cart, then jogged over towards the call.
>"I'm here! Andrew, over here!"
>Someone in a dress shirt and khakis turned towards Andrew, then raised his hand and began to walk towards him.
>"Martinez," he greeted Andrew as the two shook hands, "we have an assignment for you. And it's much more interesting than manual labor."
>"Oh really?" he asked.
>"Yes sir. Right through the portal, follow me."
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>>30515095

>The man led the way as he and Andrew walked towards the Portgate. "So," Andrew asked, what am I going to be doing?"
>"Well, a few hours ago we just received some...very interesting packages from, um...what was it? That one company...oh well. Anyways," he said as the pure white of fluorescent lighting was replaced by the warm glow of sunlight, "we found quite a cache of weaponry inside the boxes."
>"Woah, isn't that security's job to be handling things like that?"
>"Yes, but..." he sighed, "it's a bit different. These weapons are brand new models, much different from our standard gear. There's a huge variety, too. And frankly, security is having a hard time making heads or tails of their new equipment."
>"Still," Andrew asked as the two made way for a cargo truck, "they really couldn't figure it out?"
>"Well...you'll just have to see. Right this way, to the right. I'm serious, this is stuff I don't think anyone but a skilled technician could handle."
>"Alright, I guess." Andrew shrugged. "Better than lifting boxes, I guess."
>"Great. In here, please," the man gestured as he waved towards the tent to the left. It was twice as large as the ones, and if Andrew recalled correctly it was security's territory. He stared at the pile of boxes in front of the tent, then walked through the entrance...and almost tripped over another box.
>All of the tables in the room were occupied by cardboard boxes of all shapes and sizes, with security personnel fiddling away at the contents of each one. Their confused faces spoke volumes as they squinted at what Andrew assumed to be instruction manuals, although each one was almost as big as a phone book. Alongside the boxes and manuals lay a smorgasbord of tools and parts, strewn across the tabletop in a cluttered mess.
>"...s-so, what do I do now?" Andrew meekly asked.
>"Help figure out what exactly's going on."
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>>30515104

>Andrew slowly walked over to the nearest table slack-jawed as he picked up a manual. "Lockheed-Martin Experimental CR-22.18 Caseless Modular Rifle, this manual not for use by any persons other than authorized..."
>"Oh, that's not what we're having serious trouble with. Over here," said the man from the other side of the room.
>"What exactly is all this?"
>"That's for you to find out, Mr. Martinez. I think this is the one that's been the most perplexing."
>Andrew sighed as he looked at the strange assortment of unassembled parts on the table. "What is this?"
>"Here's the manual," he replied as he handed Andrew what seemed to be an encyclopedia at first glance.
>"Can't they put this on a tablet?" he asked as he read the title of the hefty manual. "Lockheed-Martin BX-LR Prototype #2983-03, wait...automated railgun sentry?! Are you serious?!"
>Andrew lifted his head to ask the man just what was going on, but he was nowhere to be found. He set the manual on the table with a solid thud and quickly tiptoed through the mess of boxes on the plywood floor towards the entrance, poking his head through the flaps when he reached it. The man had vanished into thin air, right when Andrew had needed him the most.
>"Well," he sighed, "I wouldn't expect him to be anything but intimidated. God, are we for real?"
>The technician shuffled through the tent back to his table, staring at the cardboard boxes piled up to the ceiling on it. He grabbed one out of the stack and cut the top open with his multi-tool, hooking it back onto his belt loop as he opened the top flaps.
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>>30515112

>Inside was a jumble of parts and fasteners set in packing foam, the collection so massive that Andrew's head almost swam as he stared at it. Rows upon rows of metal tubes, plastic plates, and copper coils lay tightly packed next to an enormous array of circuit boards and wires and plastic baggies of bolts and fasteners. The largest item that Andrew saw as he pulled out piece after piece was a white plastic frame for what he assumed would be the body of the turret, which he set down next to the tripod legs and the camera. Some of the parts, he noticed, had warning labels on them - warning labels that made Andrew more than a little nervous.
>As the last extra screw was dumped out of the empty cardboard box, Andrew threw the packaging on the ground and stared at the assortment of parts before him. With a sigh, he grabbed the manual and flipped through the pages, setting it back down when he had found the assembly instructions. Assembling the turret would be fun, he told himself as he scanned the table for the first part he needed. Just like Legos.
>A minute later, he frowned as he looked over the table a second, then a third and fourth time. It didn't take long for him to remember the reason he had never liked Lego sets as a child.
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>>30515119

-Cavern-

>Warmth.
>She had not left for so long, content in lying in her resting place and feeling the blissful warmth in her body. Perhaps the occasional foray outside the cave for food, but nothing too flashy. Just enough to live by.
>Hundreds of years had passed since the last time she had expanded her hoard, millennia since her birth. That day of carnage, that brief yet unimaginably intense moment of red fire and golden bounty, was long passed, forgotten to those who had suffered her wrath and their descendants. Distant memories, to reminisce about in her early retirement.
>She couldn't have done it again anyways, at least not now. It was becoming harder and harder to find wealth without being struck down by the ponies or the gryphons, their attacks fiercer then ever before. Her wings and scales bore testament to that fact, the scars and punctures still sore after centuries.
>Adult dragons in the middle of their lives will find a point at which their hoard becomes substantial, when the fruits they reap are to be consumed in comfort. They will then search the land for a suitable mate, combining their hoards and raising up to three children in a new, larger cavern that they "feel out" with their magic.
>"But what dragon would want to birth young into such a cruel and unforgiving world?" she asked herself. "There is no wealth for them to seek out, no jewels or precious metals to find. The ponies have taken it all," she lamented as she stroked her red, scaly wings. They had taken it all, and there would be none for her children.
>Flames shot out of her nostrils as she snorted, the orange trickles of heat making the air shimmer and wave. This was a troubling idea, but it could wait. She would think about it later, perhaps in a few months. There was no need to concern herself...at least, not for the moment...
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>>30515124

>Something suddenly stirred within her, a sort of yearning that she had almost forgotten dozing off in her cave. She rolled over on her bed of gold and silver, suddenly unable to relax in her domain. Not since her younger years had she felt this strange sensation, as if there was something out there to add to her collection.
>And that smell...that faint yet unmistakable smell that was in the air...
>Perhaps she would find her answer sooner rather than later.
>For the first time in almost a decade, the dragon rose from her fiery nest and surveyed her surroundings. The cave had seemed fine just a day ago, but now it seemed too empty and barren to her scrupulous eyes. Her wings stretched out from her sides, the enormous leathery flaps nearly touching the stone ceiling.
>It was time to fly again.

These interim chapters between big events are necessary, but I always feel like they're less exciting and generally worse than the bigger ones. Hopefully, I didn't screw up as bad this time.

But seriously, I am glad that I'm getting legit criticism over my writing. Every little bit of advice helps, positive or negative, and I'm always ready to accept each comment that I get. Again, thank you all so much for reading my story and helping me improve.
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>>30515155
Okay. Comment part 1/2 here.

These bits feel like filler, just a bit. Both sides--we hope it won't come down to a war, but both sides are making ready for battle.

Fortunately, Luna, in your story, is not an idiot, for which I am thankful (and I think she'd call the group of cannon units to which she refers as a "battalion," if we're using our military terms terms, it sounds like three four-gun general purpose batteries with a four-gun heavy battery). She is able to see what is plain before her, and has been able to guess, shrewdly, that she has not seen all or even most of the humans' capabilities.

It would be logical, I suppose, and this is just a guess, for her to try to find someone really skilled at learning foreign languages, or maybe a unicorn with a language spell that won't seem threatening to the humans when it is used in their presence (a "learn language" spell that results in a randomly selected human bystander being surrounded by an obvious magical aura is going to get the full and sincere attention of several hundred twitchy guys armed with the latest thing in automatic weapons, and if that person falls down, or has a seizure, or blood starts shooting out of his ears and eye sockets, Luna's going to need to put up a "help wanted" ad in the Canterlot Times to try to find someone willing to try again), and try to talk this out before it escalates any further.
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>>30515281
Comment 2/2 here.

I am wondering how large the human position has grown to. I am going to assume that the humans have created field fortifications--that it is, if not a "real" firebase, then a damn good approximation of one, complete with forest cut clear for hundreds of meters in all directions from its perimeter in order to prevent unobserved infiltration and force hostiles to cross half a klick of open ground in the teeth of heavy machinegun and mortar fire. Maybe a central firebase area at least half a kilometer across, with sandbag bunkers, pillboxes, trenches that have overhead cover for at least a couple companies of infantry, armed with everything from mortars to heavy belt-fed stuff to antitank missiles to portable SAMs. I assume that the 500 personnel whom Luna mentioned are researchers, the rest are enough soldiers to constitute, at the moment, a badly understrength infantry battalion--one which is being reinforced further with every truck coming through the portal.

I'm guessing, also, that whoever set up the firebase read the book and wasn't a fool. I'm imagining land mines and concertina wire, and fields of razorwire tanglefoot created specifically to funnel attackers into positions already pre-targeted for mortar fire and direct-fire from crew-served belt-fed direct-fire heavy weapons. I'm imagining there are a dozen or more little well-camouflaged observation posts and listening posts around the periphery, accessed via tunnels, with well-trained people staring continuously into the forest and into the sky with thermal vision gear and ground surveillance radar, with other crews watching the seismic detectors for signs of hostiles digging tunnels or other cleverness. I'm imagining an infantry battalion's scout platoon is creeping through the underbrush for kilometers in all directions, their faces painted green, and they probably know almost as much about the pony forces as the ponies know about them.
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>>30515155
While the interim chapters may not be as bombastic as the big event ones, They do have a crucial role in getting and keeping us invested in the story. If we are not invested than the payoff doesn't matter.
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>>30515330
This is now my headcanon for this story.
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>>30515885
I wonder how long it would take four or six bulldozers with skilled crews (assuming sufficient fuel for them is coming through the portal to keep them running) to clear an area of thick forest maybe a mile across. I'm imagining a full-on Iraq (or Vietnam) style firebase for a battalion, with lots of rubble-filled Hesco barriers, razorwire and Czech hedgehogs and felled trees converted into spiked barriers. I'm also assuming .50 cals and automatic grenade launchers set up with pre-planned interlaced and interlocking fields of fire already set up, mortars dug in, pre-aimed Claymores set up with tripwires to cover all the more plausible-looking lines of approach, and all the rest.

The humans can't win against an entire planet--but Luna has already figured that she hasn't brought enough cannon fodder to evict them by force, nor enough body bags. The ponies would win in the end, if only because Luna and Celestia would have to pick up an honest-to-God actual mountain--imagine them pulling a blob of rock a mile or two across out of the ground some distance away, and just dropping it on the humans' position, after the body count passes some point where the Princesses can no longer justify throwing more lives away.

Then they get to spend the next century wondering when and where the next portal is going to open (assuming it isn't someone else--there may be nastier high-tech civilizations out there), and what human tricks they haven't seen yet. Things could pretty clearly get a lot nastier, quickly.

I am hoping we're seeing the light bulb coming on over Luna's head, and her realizing that at this point they really need to talk, and that she needs to figure out how to make this happen before anyone else dies.

I like smart Luna, and want to see the Princesses do the right thing the first time, without starting a war.
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>>30515330
Reminds me of GATE
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>>30515979
mmkay, I'm seeing estimates online that it's five acres per hour per bulldozer, this assuming daylight in which to work, good weather, no mechanical breakdowns or monsters carrying off the operators.

Assuming six dozers and fuel, and good weather? A square mile is two days work for them, with plenty of time left over on day 2 to do things like dig out hull-down positions for armored vehicles, smooth out a helipad, assemble piles of earth and rubble to fill Hesco barriers, construct a clear and navigable dirt road across the mile-wide clearing they've made, and so on.

I wonder if Luna has noticed THAT too, how quickly the humans cleared out a mile-wide patch in the middle of the monster-filled Everfree Forest... and did it without using any magic whatsoever. The troops in her encampment may be gung-ho, but she is already adding up the numbers in her head, I think, and not liking what this tells her about the humans' capabilities.
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>>30516005
One hopes it doesn't get to that point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBzZycw9APw
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>>30516056
Doctor-anon in equestria when?
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>>30515281
>>30515330
>>30515514
>>30515979
>>30516010

Dang, this is in depth!

But anyways, in my head things aren't quite to that scale yet. You have to remember that access to the Portgate is through a tunnel 8 stories deep into the ground, through only two lanes at a time. Adding in the occasional complication, there's not going to be a lot of traffic, and not a lot of expansion.

For now, they're making do with sandbags and light machine guns hastily borrowed from the nearby surplus warehouse, though they now have some very special new weaponry to use. And I'd say that forest clearing hadn't quite started yet, although the meadow is actually rather sizeable and has some free space around the edges. Right now it's just a (somewhat) small collection of tents, since there's literally an enormous underground bunker a minute's walk away. Plus, the only threats recently observed were a few mini-horses with swords - not enough for anti-air defenses. There was the hydra corpse, but I would put off shoving heavy artillery through a narrow supply tunnel deep underground until later. The Portgate project was primarily a research/exploration project, so the "security" (not military quite yet) forces are still relatively light. Relative to human standards, of course.
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Any good
"Ha HA, TAKE THAT TWILIGHT YOU MAGIC SUPREMACIST PIECE OF CRAP"
Story that is done comically, not so much dark or murdery?
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>>30516089
There's already a Doctor Who pony though....
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>>30516399
>though they now have some very special new weaponry to use.
Like tf2's lvl 1 sentry gun? (Or Overwatch's, same turret design)
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>>30476220
>>30475170
The story'll be updated in this thread or the next
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>>30516483
PeteQ's science rainbow dash story is cute and light hearted story, that might interest you

http://pastebin.com/9H8f7A0s
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>>30516483
Try https://pastebin.com/dBEPLt7C
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>>30516399
Luna saying this line when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-JA1ffd5Ms
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>>30518484
Based
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>>30516399
>Plus, the only threats recently observed were a few mini-horses with swords - not enough for anti-air defenses.

Plus magic. I would have figured that descriptions of Luna's personal shield, when they debriefed the troops, would have had them shitting their pants and at the very least busting out crates of old LAAW rocket launchers. If they are a European organization and prefer to buy European products, they have a lot of choices. Pic related.

Princess Luna's personal magic shield barely stopped a mag of rifle ammo. The 58mm WASP is supposedly capable of penetrating 40+ cm of hardened steel plating, plus generating a considerable amount of fragmentation from its casing.
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>>30516399
Isn't the portgate like 5 stories tall? Wouldn't they design the facility it so that they could get heavy machinery down there easily for building and maintaining it? Feels odd they just have tents and sandbags
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>>30520534
The alternative is moving prefabricated steel buildings through but those would be far more expensive for minimal benefits.

As to the sandbags, they are one of the simplest and most cost-effective methods of stopping any (known to them) projectile which seeing as they know there are locals with metal swords. Seems like a good precaution.


Anyhow, these guys were primarily an economic and scientific expedition. The fact they had enough of this shit at the ready to establish a large base-camp is impressive.
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>pg 9
>>30521298
Hesco barriers are very inexpensive, though it's labor-intensive to set them up and fill them if you don't have earthmoving equipment beyond shovels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesco_bastion

They're collapsible wire enclosures lined with layers of tough fiberglass cloth. The troops unpack them and fill them with sand, rocks, or whatever rubble are available, and set them up in lines to make walls. It goes much faster if you have bucketloaders, power excavators, or similar equipment available.

Oddly, they weren't even invented for military purposes. They were created as a method faster and more efficient than filling sandbags by hand for emergency flood control, and erosion control. Then during the Iraq war someone in the Pentagon said, "Hmm, we need a faster way to build walls around firebases."
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Because I'm autistic, this is what I had imagined, but I'm not the author.

The cleared area of forest would be a bit over a mile across. Brown lines are rows of Heco barriers--the outer walls. Black triangles are the gates and associated bunkers. Curving lighter brown lines are the road. Black diamonds are heavy weapons bunkers which depending on time and place are likely to contain everything from .50 cals to heavy recoilless rifles.

Red triangles are OPs, observation posts--bunkers with a full infantry squad in them, watching all possible avenues of approach out of the jungle, I mean, forest. Blue triangles are LPs, carefully camouflaged two-man positions with technical specialists staring into the jungle with thermal night vision gear, ground surveillance radar, watching the output of seismic detection gear, and so on, in constant communication with the interior of the firebase, and usually eventually with the ability to unass their positions and get back inside the firebase through tunnels or at least covered trenches if things get hot--they're there to give advance warning, and maybe call for artillery, not to fight directly.

Within the firebase itself would be everything from barracks for all the soldiers and scientists, to lab space, to prefab buildings for the clerk-typists to fill out and submit forms, to a very small field hospital, to a mess hall, to a helipad. Plus, of course, if it's a real firebase, mortars dug in, plus (putting the "fire" in "firebase") up to a full battery (six ot eight guns) of 105mm or 155mm artillery, though stuff that heavy isn't going to be there yet.

Stuff outside the walls, in between the firebase walls and the edge of the forest, is going to be what would look to the uninitiated like random patches of concertina wire and tanglefoot and, less obviously, minefields, intended to channel an attacker into a preplanned, pre-aimed artillery barrage. The scouts going in and out would know where the minefields are, to avoid them.
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>>30522240
>tfw I made the "map" and I mixed up the shapes I used in the description

I hope it's still understandable
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Newfag here,got any good Human vs Pony war story?I just finished Conversion and thirsty for more
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>>30522721
>just finished Conversion
Conversion Bureau?
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>>30522826
Ye
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>>30523059
Why
A human-pony war would be a no contest victory for the humans, as the technological edge is simply too great
Potions don't quite do much to drones and supersonic missiles
Then you account for the fact that humans probably have more soldiers than the ponies have population, and the horsies are in a bit of a pickle when they start converting by force
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>>30523225
Because autists will always argue in favor of Magic when it comes to magic vs. tech.

The worst are the ones that take a universe with well established magic rules (Which, MLP admittedly, is not), and completely disregard them in favor of their own headcanon which boils down to "Lel, it's magic, nothing can top it"

Like It-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named and it's TCB story in which Celestia somehow crystallizes(?) an explosion from an absurdly large nuclear weapon (I think it was like 6 gigatons or something), from like a couple feet away. How does that ever pass a sanity check?
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>>30523252
Honestly, all modern humanity would have to do to win is introduce them to their fandom, and then threaten to unleash said fandom like a wave of cancer.
They'd be scared shitless.
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>>30523272
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>pg 8

>>30523272
That's probably true, though I have read an absolutely adorable story of portals to technicolor tiny hoers land appearing in our world, and ponies introducing themselves to the public at petting zoos.

It was cute. No >rape, attempted or otherwise, took place, and they mostly found themselves swarmed with adoring children who wanted to brush them, plus a few neckbeards who didn't get grabby.
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>>30523225
S'why i'm looking for stories with humans as victorious.
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>>30523252
>Ch*toyance
>"How does that even pass a sanity check?"
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>>30523736
that does sound kind of cute
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>>30524024
If you're looking for modernish humans than Portgate's story looks like it might be going down that path. Still too early to tell.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/357566/the-portgate
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>>30524065
How bad was the story that everyone here self censors the author's name? Holy fuckballs.
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>>30526297
That creature is the very definition of misanthrope
The assignment ass bandit is one of those hardcore "humanity is a virus and should die" niglets, and took to TCB like a fly to shit
They're the type of person that can stand as a strong argument in favour of reopening auschwitz
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>>30527284
>assignment
Fucking autocorrupt
Just want to shitpost about shitters while on the shitter
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>>30526297
However bad you're imagining it, it's worse.

And we don't speak his name, lest he appear here and shit up the thread with furrydrama/trannydrama. And however bad you're imagining THAT, it's worse.

>>30527284
The Chatty One has drawn a webcomic or two--which are, surprisingly, mostly not terribly bad, with a lot of the things we say we enjoy in fiction--detailed worldbuilding (to the point of inventing detailed new cosmologies for the universes in which they are set), strong characterizations, decent dialogue.

But it also becomes painfully obvious as you're reading that The Chatty One has a morbid fascination, well-nigh a full-blown obsession, with, shall we say, "alternate sexualities." He's one of those gay men who has a fetish for straight guys and likes to pretend to be a girl, and even had surgery to help him in this regard, apparently.

Anyway. In addition to giving us a guided tour of his fucked-up, repugnant sexual fetishes, he's one of those people who really, really wants everyone to know three things:

1. he's an atheist
2. corollary to 1, he's much, much smarter than me and you
3. he really, really, really hates organized religion in general and Catholics/the Catholic Church in particular

Oh, and if you think Chatty is batshit? Look in his comic forums and you will see people who make Chr*s-ch*n look like the epitome of human sanity and function. Half the posts there are "I hate myself and I want to die because of fursecution/religious people don't approve of me/I have daddy issues/Mommy doesn't believe me when I say I was an anime character in a former life/I caught teh ghey, but I rilly rilly wuv oo, Chatty." You know how Chr*s-ch*n is a train wreck? The forum is, or was the last time I dared look, some kind of meta-train-wreck composed of thousands of individual mutually interacting train wrecks, such that it would really probably take more than three dimensions to describe or depict it accurately.

You ain't seen nothing yet, broseph.
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>>30524840
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/357758/the-platonic-pony-petting-caf

Manes get brushed. Snooters get booped. "And just for once, everybody lives!"

You're welcome.
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>>30527465
Thanks I'll read through it when I have some spare time
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>>30529497
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>>30527376
sounds like a real piece of work
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>>30530524
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>>30531954
That's putting it mildly to say the least
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>>30534795
>Cyberpunk Marshmallow
>making some kinda cyberhelmet

And you know it will be fabulous.
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p9
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>>30534833
>white slut being intelligent enough to make one
>implying she would ever get her hooves dirty around any kind of hard work/tech
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>>30535787
You don't know Rarity all that well do you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0tApN3SpPg
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>>30534833
I can just picture her meticulously placing and soldering each component with the same care and precision as gems on a dress
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>>30535771
7
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Internet porn when?
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>>30436923
What is the name of the coloring program that been used in OP's picture?
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>>30538833
looks like it's PaintsChainer
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>>30539295
Thanks Anon. I been searching for this program for almost half an hour.
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>>30539295
I'm curious as to how you found out.

Was there metadata in the file, or did you do some kind of reverse image lookup and ask the original artist, or...? I gots to know.
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>>30539475
I just remember seeing the program before when I was looking for programs that could color black and white pictures
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>>30539534
Okay. And the results are distinctive, and it wasn't done with GIMP or Photoshop?
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>>30539543
It might have been touched up in gimp or photoshop but paintschainer has a distinctive enough style.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/PaintsChainer?src=hash
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>>30539810
Oh, okay. That seems like a fair enough analysis.
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>>30539861
I find with a little touching up it's a really nice program
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>>30540852
It looks like it colors with a sort of watercolor look. I'm sorry, I'm not an artist. If these are examples of what you can do with it, it looks like it makes the pictures you color with it look like someone painted them with watercolors, if that makes more sense. I know there may be more technical terms for it, but I'm not an artist and am not sure where I'd even look it up.
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>>30540931
It's a neural network and it does most of the actual coloring by itself. You just upload the base image and then scribble in color lines to guide the network on what you want. If you don't it'll still color it in sepia tones. So my example here shows the results of just the base image and the base image+color hints
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>>30541201
A neural network that does pseudo-watercolors?

That's amazing. At the same time I wonder who had the idea and how it got pitched at the meetings. "Let's build a neural net AI and teach it to paint with watercolors" isn't the sort of thing I would expect to bring in the venture capital bux.
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>>30541244
It seems like it was created by pixiv as part of an art app called pixiv sketch. And since the app is free there's little reason not to just offer this part of it for free as well. I'm guess the reason they made was to get more people to use their website or something
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>>30541201
I get the picture just how I want it, but ONE line change later, the entire color pallete has changed. Why? ;_;
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>>30529497
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Well, I said I would get Chapter 7 out in early July, and unfortunately I have to break that promise because the chapter is not done yet and I now have a terrible case of writer's block. Even if I did get it done this week, that would put posting firmly in late July after I send it to my editor, which usually takes a week or two. So, I'm going to at least keep everyone happy and post what I have so far (which is fairly significant), then come back whenever I have more. Once again, I'm terribly sorry.

>The copper tea kettle whistles cheerily as its liquid contents come to rolling boil.
>Carefully lifting it with your magic, you pour two tea-filled mugs with clear fluid, watching the hot steam rise in translucent clouds, then drop a spoonful of tea leaves in each.
>Having returned from the bookshop, Anonymous quietly sits in an armchair thumbing the pages of the leather-bound tome as you levitate a cup over to him.
>“Thank you,” he mutters, flicking over to the next page.
>You sit yourself in a chair 90 degrees from his, and pull down your own reading for the day.
>For a few moments, the two of you sip your tea and tear into the pages vigorously, until, abruptly, Anonymous slams his book shut.
>“I hate this,” he says. “This is all just a distraction.”
>He gets up and marches over to the basement stairway.
>Following suit, you trot over to block his path.
“Wait! Come on, that had to at least be nice, getting your mind off of everything for -”
>“No, that was exactly the problem! I couldn’t - I can’t stop thinking about... problems.”
“Alright, then sit,” you say, gently leading him back to the chairs. “And let’s just talk about it.”
>Grudgingly, he sits back down.
>“Fine. You want to talk? Let’s start with the newest revelation. The philosophical consequences - and paradoxes - of reverse causality are enormous in and of themselves, obviously enough, and to translate those consequences into a coherent physical theory is virtually impossible,” he says.
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>>30542863

>You can’t help but sort of internally sigh.
>You’d hoped that he’d be opening up about his friendship issues but….
>“Every conceivable equation would need to be rewritten to account for the fact that actions in the future could affect the past, unless this power were somehow limited to specific forces. Every theory I know of, even my own, concludes that time travel is impossible, unless one travels from the present to the future.”
“Well, the conditions for time travel are extremely limited,” you reply, attempting to console him. “Pinkie’s gift is one example. I’ve experimented with one short-term time travel spell, but it seems to require a stable temporal loop. For it to be possible, whatever you do in the past must ultimately lead to you activating the spell and traveling back in time.”
“I see.”
“However, and this is just a theory that I’ve thought up, a more powerful version of that spell could be created that eliminated that requirement, but the amount of energy required would be phenomenal.”
>“Unfortunately that puts us back in the problem still. Reverse time travel can’t be allowed under any circumstances.”
“And yet, that’s what happens.”
>He nods, solemn.
>“Indeed. But, let’s go back even before that. You told me that magical systems can create more energy than what is put into them. Doing this is also forbidden, and I have yet to find a way to circumvent this issue, especially because you also mentioned that the amount of extra energy varies, and I’ve verified this with some of the other sources in your library.”
“Well, no one’s been able to fully explain the Grand Law of Magic. We just sort of taken it for granted.”
>“And that can sometimes be what you need. Barring a full, deeper explanation for some law, it may be simple enough to take at as almost like a logical prior of the universe. An observable factoid that gives the universe structure, which we can perhaps probe at a later date.”
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>>30542868

>You nod.
>“But, supposing I could explain reverse causality and the Grand Law, there would still be even deeper problems than those. I could write down some law that explained all of magic’s effects, but for it to be scientific it would also need to make testable predictions. It would need to propose something new.”
>He looks into the swirling tea leaves.
>“That’s where the real problem lies.”
>What Anonymous has said stews in your mind for a few moments.
>“You’ve run yourself ragged for the past week,” you finally say. “You need to take a break. You can’t do this to yourself.”
“I need to. Problems need to be solved.”
>“And there’s plenty of time to solve them. This one and others. Because you’re still leaving out one part of your theory.”
“What?”
>“Friendship.”
“That’s…. I’ve agreed to try to fix myself, but there is no conceivable way that connections to others somehow affect some sort of physical force. It’s irrelevant.”
>“It’s not. Maybe… okay, this might sound crazy, but -”
“But what?”
>“Maybe if we solve your friendship problem, then you’ll figure out the magic problem!”
>Anonymous returns your smile with a sullen frown.
>“I’m going for a walk,” he says.
“Do you want me to come with you?”
>He thinks for a moment, but shakes his head no as he leaves through the door.
>“I can’t have any distractions,” he says. “I’m sorry.”
>You can’t help but sigh.
>Some work still needs to be done.
>You pace for a few moments, rueing your indecisiveness in that you hadn’t obligated him to let you come.
>It wasn’t too late to fix that, you suppose, as you head out the door only a few moments behind him.

>The low sun of the late afternoon was your only companion as you strolled along with your hands in your pockets and your brain still tossing thoughts back and forth in a never-ending game of ping pong.
>There wasn’t much else to explain; you’d laid your thoughts bare for Twilight.
>Perhaps she could make something of this mess.
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>>30542871

>At least the air was fresh and the sky was blue as a robin’s egg, minus a small, very quickly moving speck, shooting overhead like a fighter jet in pursuit of some enemy target.
>As if it were a hawk spotting a shrew, the object pirouettes around and heads in your general direction.
>Your curiosity over who or what this thing is overtakes your instinct to take cover as a blue pegasus shoots down in front of you, landing with a strong draft of air that kicks up a low cloud of dust.
>“Hey! You!” a scratchy, high-pitched voice says.
>Rainbow Dash - that’s her name - you recall, noticing her Technicolor mane.
“Is there something you require?” you state flatly. “I’ll have you know I’m a bit preoccupied right now with other things - even if it might not seem that way - so I’d appreciate if you’d move aside.”
>The mare snorts and stamps her front right hoof.
>Frowning, you move to get around her, though she dashes, much as her namesake would imply, and blocks you again.
>“You hurt my friends,” she says.
“Excuse me?”
>“Don’t you play dumb! Twilight says you’re smart. Why did you betray her?”
>You blink.
“Betray? Well, you’re certainly proving your commitment to your Element to use such a strong term. Loyalty, was it not?”
>“Uh, yeah?” Dash says, her voice wavering ever so slightly. “What do you care about loyalty?”
“I don’t particularly. I’m more trying to understand why your faith in your friends is so strong that you’d act so violently.”
>“I’m not acting violently.”
>You try to get around her again, failing a second time.
“You’re blocking me quite aggressively.”
>“Well - uh - I need to talk to you. I need to -”
“You want to hurt me for what I did, or, rather, what you think I did. You think you’re the noble knight in shining armor coming to the rescue. In any other situation it would be quite poetic.”
>“And it’s not here because?”
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>>30542877

“Because, first of all, you’re not just doing this out of loyalty. You’re doing this because you’re impulsive. Otherwise, you would have taken the time to find out that I have apologized for my actions, and we - Twilight and I - are in the process of working things out.”
>Rainbow Dash takes a step back at that, but then says, “Oh, so you said some words to her then? That just means you’re scheming some new way to hurt her.”
“That’s a strong accusation,” you reply. “Pray tell, do you plan to provide evidence to back that up?”
>A small crowd of ponies gathers around you to watch the shouting match.
>“I don’t need to prove it. I just need to prevent it.”
“And how do you plan to do that?”
>“I’m going to make you pay for what you’ve done,” Rainbow Dash says, narrowing her eyes.
“I’m afraid I don’t believe I owe anything that I would need to pay for,” you say, but then Dash tackles you and knocks you into the dirt.
>She stands above you, almost snarling.
“That was unwise,” you say, planting an arm down to stand.
>“Then this is even less!”
>Dash goes for your arm, hitting it like a bicycle kickstand as you pull it aside and sending you again sprawling into the dirt.
>She slams her hips against your chest, knocking the wind out of you.
>You reflexively shield your face with your arms and hands, your mind racing to come up with a plan to escape as blows hammer down upon your only line of defense.
>She’s light enough that you can easily throw her off you, but you can’t get her that far.
>You need a good point of leverage.
>Shifting your defense, you notice the pair of wings before you provide the perfect spot to grab.
>Shooting out your hands, you latch onto the downy feathers.
>“Let me go!” Dash growls.
“I think not.”
>She lifts herself up and punches you hard in the face, a trickle of warm, crimson blood running down your forehead into your right eye where her hard hoof dug into your skull.
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>>30542883

>It’s the last thing you feel before a second hit lands on your temple, sending you into sudden blackness.

>You arrive just in time to see Rainbow Dash for some reason knocking Anonymous unconscious.
“What in Celestia’s name are you doing?” you shout, galloping through the small throng of ponies surrounding the two combatants.
>Dash snorts.
>“I was just dealing with that squirt,” she says. “I can’t believe he was still in town.”
“Of course he was still in town! Why would he leave town? Why would you beat someone to a pulp just for being in town?”
>“He betrayed your trust, Twilight. You let him into your home and he took advantage of you.”
“Yeah, but he apologized for that!”
>Dash steps back.
>“He what?”
“He said he was sorry and that he was going to try to change. I mean, it was a bit more complicated than that, but still.”
>“Then… oh Celestia....”
>Her eyes go very wide.
>Suddenly everything fits together, like reassembling the pieces of a vase that was rudely kicked off a coffee table.
“Rainbow Dash, if you -”
>“I didn’t know, Twilight - I - I thought he might be lying when he said he apologized! And then he was egging me on about my Element and -”
>You take a deep breath and sharply exhale.
“No. There’s no sense in agonizing over a misunderstanding,” you say, collecting yourself.
“It is only fortunate that his injuries do not look to serious. Do you think you can carry him back to the library?”
>Dash only nods and scoops Anonymous onto her back.
>His body surrounded by a purple aura as a you tend to his wounds, you take him back to the library, cursing that you hadn’t forced him to take you with him.
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>>30542889

>You write at your desk when the walls begin to melt and shift like rainbow candle wax exposed to a heat lamp, and then you realize that you aren’t at your desk at all.
>From the mirage of twisting colors emerges the long slender figure of Discord, sitting cross-legged and filing at his nails.
>“You know, I thought you’d have this all figured out by now,” he says. “I mean, you were so quick to reject my little deal back - eight hours, 16 minutes, 32 point nine nine eight two -”
“Go away.”
>“And it doesn’t seem that you’re taking much of Ms. Sparkle’s lessons to heart, now are you? Aren’t you supposed to be learning to be nicer to people?”
“That isn’t your concern. What do you want?”
>“Just some idle conversation.”
“I really don’t have time for this.”
>You try to get up to leave, but you run into an invisible wall.
>Behind you, Discord is making a square with his mismatched index fingers and thumbs, a fanged smirk slinking across his face.
>“Having trouble?” he asks.
>Your eyes narrow.
“Are you just here to bother me, or do you actually plan on making use of our limited time? Presumably I will wake up eventually, and then you have to deal with Twilight -”
>“Oooh, so you’re on a first-name basis now, are you?”
>You don’t reply, and Discord sighs.
>“Fine, fine,” he says. “I have a question to ask you. What is the one constant of the universe?”
“There isn’t one,” you answer immediate. “There are many fundamental constants that seem to be -”
>Discord wags his finger.
>“No, not that type of constant, you silly. I’ll ask you again. What’s the one constant of the universe?”
“I’m not playing the game of unanswerable questions.”
>Discord summons a steel pendulum, split in two by a pivot point.
>“What is the one constant of the multiverse?” he asks. “Let me show you.”
>He taps the double pendulum with a decent amount of force.
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>>30542897

>At first, it acts fairly regularly, swinging back and forth neatly and evenly, but soon, the pieces begin to dance and whirl with not-just-seemingly random changes in velocity and direction.
>“Chaos,” Discord says with a spark in his eye, “is the one constant.”
“Hardly. So you’ve given a very nice example of chaotic motion. Well done,” you say. “Even in all the seeming chaos, there is order. It just… takes time to figure out.”
>“And how exactly do you do that?” Discord asks. “Even when you ‘solve’ the system, plug in all the variables and put all the constants in the right place, even then you still might not be able to make anything predictive out of it. So many of your equations require simplifying assumptions to get anything of value out of them - an approximation here, a variable expansion there. Or you take one of your amazing computing devices and have them brute force solutions point by point.”
“Did I say we solved everything perfectly?”
>“No, but how do you know you’re really solving anything at all? In fact, why do you trust that your methods of inquiry even closely approximate the actual universe? It could all just be an elaborate illusion, detached from the ‘real world’ by a regress of obfuscating steps - the numbers and dials of your instruments that just so happen to be tuned to fit your predictions. There could be no ‘real world’ at all, just some falsehood constructed by your feeble human mind.”
“What you propose makes no sense.”
>“Is it really?”
“Yes. We make models that seem to match what we observe. It is far more likely that these models thus actually represent the natural world because they match our observations of said world, than that we’ve made the complicated web of errors you’re proposing.”
>“But something being more likely does not make it certain. There are many unlikely things that -”
“I’m not here to play your game of sophistry.”
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>>30542904

>Discord rears himself up very close to you, such that you can smell the surprisingly not-unpleasant musky scent of his coat.
>“Interrupt me one more time, and I’ll….”
“You’ll what? Don’t you need me for something?”
>He frowns.
>“Indeed, I do. So let us return to the matter at hand.”
>With a snap of his talon, a sheet of paper covered in scribblings appears in his lion’s paw.
>“Ooh, now isn’t this curious?” Discord says with a toothy smirk.
“Where did you get that?” you say, almost snarling, realizing what it is.
>“It was right here in your head.”
>Another snap, and the equations blow themselves up to large size and float in the otherwise empty air.
>Tapping symbols with a talon, they float, dance, and snicker at you.
>“No, no, no, this is all wrong,” Discord says. “I could fix it for you, but that would require something from you in exchange, something you’re completely unwilling to provide, but still…. Point of order number one, look at what a mess this is. There’s so many characters. To many! You’d expect that the underlying laws of the universe would be so much simpler than this.”
“They are as simple as they need to be, and no more,” you reply. “The fact that we can even write down equations for the universe is a miracle in and of itself. The fact that we can even provide some form of order -”
>“There it is again. You think you’re providing some sort of order to the universe? What an utter farce! Maybe your feeble, unenlightened mind can’t grasp it, but chaos is the order of the universe. To believe that you can even come to make sense of the incalculable abyss of reality is an utter joke. And just to prove my point further….”
>A second equation appears in the air, one you like far better.
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>>30542911

>“Ah, yes,” Discord says. “The perfect equation to explain how to quantize the geometry of spacetime, involving the development of a theory of parallel universes and the mechanics of a black hole singularity. Yet it’s not like you can solve this collection of 28 Greek and Roman symbols - not counting the super and subscripts - for any reasonable solutions.”
>He taps his chin.
>“You know what would be fun to try? Let’s take a singularity of the mass of an entire universe. Your universe. Let’s put that in here…”
>A small white dot appears before you.
>“... and see what happens.”
>The dot rapidly expands in a sudden burst of light and color, like an ethereal firework, forming long filaments of glowing energy.
>Just as it seems to be reaching a climax, Discord shoves it aside.
>“Now we change the mass by a factor of 0.000000000000000000000001%. Watch carefully now.”
>The process repeats, but approximately the same moment as the previous…
“The structure is entirely changed. Yes, I know this.”
>“And that’s just one of the parameters,” Discord says, chuckling a bit. “There are an infinite number of combinations that lead to an -”
“Yes, and that’s why there must be a multiverse, presuming that any singularity of the right critical conditions could form. What do you want to prove that I don’t already know?”
>“What I’m showing you is that your system, your perfect, orderly system - is completely chaotic. It’s worse than your double wangdoodle wickerstick, even.”
“Double inverted pendulum.”
>“Whatever.”
>For the first time, though, you have both of your models before you, and, for the first time, you come to a realization.
“No, this can’t work,” you mutter to yourself. “It doesn’t fit with the observed phenomena. But what if…. Tell me, what would happen if one were to add a controlling force, predicated on, oh… these parameters.”
>You wave your hands, rearranging the equations to add a new term to the mix and adjust the others.
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>>30542918

>It’s so much easier to simply put things together in your head than manually write them out on paper.
“It has a separate field dictated by its relation to the other four fundamental fields, and yet it acts as a control. Depending on the right initial parameters, its power could be quite strong or quite weak. It would also, of course, have a conservation law, that is required.”
>“What are you doing?” Discord says, his eyes narrowing.
>You ignore him.
“The system is chaotic, but there are ways we can provide order to chaos. Yes, of course I would have missed something like this if there would be no way to observe such a force.”
>You nod.
“Excuse me, Discord,” you say. “I believe I have some explanations to make and experiments to do. If I am correct, then I am on the right track to solving the Grand Law of Magic.”
>“Wait! But, you weren’t supposed to - I was - you can’t do this without me!”
“I told you. I don’t need your help. And this is my mind. Goodbye.”
>And, with that, you wake up.
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>>30542923

“He’s not waking up,” you whine, your hooves dancing a nervous tarantella; however, as soon as you say that, Anonymous’s eyes pop open.
>Rubbing his head, he leans upwards and looks around for a moment at you, then Rainbow Dash, back to you, and then back to Dash.
>“I presume you have resolved the cause of our previous conflict?” he says.
“Yes,” you say, half-sighing.
>“Good,” he says, turning to Rainbow Dash and staring at her for a moment before finally saying, “I apologize for any of the harsh language I may have used with you, but I do not appreciate being told that I am lying when I am not.”
>Dash blinks and frowns slightly.
>“You seem confused,” Anonymous says.
>“I mean, uh, yeah?” Dash replies. “That seemed really easy for you to say.”
>“Then trust me when I say it wasn’t,” he says. “There is a part of me that would like to maintain that I am fully in the right - that your attack was unprovoked and that apologizing to you for my own justified actions is a waste of breath. I am suppressing that part of me for the benefit of....”
>He trails off and doesn’t say anything more.
“For the benefit of what?” you ask.
>“It’s not relevant to this discussion,” he says.
“I think it is.”
>Anonymous locks his gaze with yours.
>“For the benefit of our friendship,” he finally says, then quickly turns back to Rainbow Dash. “Do you have any words for me?”
>“Oh, uh, yeah,” she says. “I... kinda beat the stuffing out of you. I’m sorry. That wasn’t right, but I didn’t know if I could trust what you said. And, what you said about me being impulsive did hurt, but… you were right. So, uh, yeah. Sorry.”
>“Apology accepted.”
>Her brow furrows.
>“That’s it?” she says.
>“Why wouldn’t it be? Were you expecting me to agonize over it more?” he asks. “I believe the both of us would like to move on from this affair.”
>“Uh, yeah. I would. Maybe I’ll just go, okay? See you around, Twilight.”
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>>30542928

“Wait, Dash -” you begin to say, but before you can stop her, she is already out the door and rocketing into the sky.
>You groan and return to Anonymous.
>“That went better than I expected it to,” he says flatly.
“I… Well, I have to unfortunately agree,” you say. “That could have been much worse, but I would hesitate to call a paragon of an apology.”
>“Would you have expected me to pull it off perfectly the first time?”
“No, I don’t think you could ever meet my exacting standards,” you say with a bit of a twinkle in your eye.
>Anonymous half-smiles, before returning to his normal stoicism.
>“The whole thing was rather overshadowed by a rather unwise interjection on my part, I would have to say.”
“There’s a part of you that thinks you were fully in the right.”
>“There’s a whole of me that knows I was fully in the right, but, as I said, I am obligated by our current agreement to perform as I did.”
“You’re not obligated by anything, and there’s no ‘agreement.’ You should be doing this because you want to.”
>“I am obligated to and there is some form of bargaining here. I need to try to be friendly so as to secure my laboratory and living spaces. As to the second point, I agree, but the fact of the matter is that I don’t wholly want to. For now.”
“You believe that you will eventually come to want to?”
>“Either that or a perfect facsimile. I’d personally prefer the former.”
“And what do you think would lead to that first option?”
>“I don’t know. While I can accept that friendship is valuable in theory, it is harder to internalize and act on that. It is not natural to me, especially when, again, part of me still would like to continue trying to poke holes in the argument.”
>You think for a moment.
>“How is this different from your deception before?”
“I’m not sure if deception is the right term. It was more that I was taking advantage of you by not attempting to be friendly at all. Here at least I am being friendly, even if only by coercion.”
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>>30542938

>“I’m not sure if coercion is the right term, and I’m not sure if you’re being friendly.”
>Anonymous sighs.
>“I’m doing the best I can at this moment. I want to understand how you can do both of these things.”
“Both of what things?”
>“How you can balance intellect and friendship,” he says.
>A small smile blooms on your face.
“There’s nothing more that I’d like,” you say.
>Anonymous nods.
>“Now, moving onto other matters,” he says. “You said you had previously looked into magic’s ability to travel through time. Do you still have your notes from this investigation?”
“Yes, but, hang on, I still want to -”
>“Twilight, if you give me those notes, then I assure you that I will answer any further questions you have about my current motivations at this point following.”
>You blink.
>“Okay. Let me go get them.”
>You quickly run into the basement and sift through one of the filing cabinets, finding what you seek quickly through the efficient organization system, which you have, of course, memorized.
>Anonymous briefly looks over the notes, frowning in contemplation and nodding in understanding every once and awhile.
“Very good. Now, where could we find Ms. Pie at this moment?”
>“Uh, she’d probably be at Sugarcube Corner. Why do you ask?”
“I have an apology to make, and questions to ask.”

And that's unfortunately where I have to end, because the rest just remains scraps that I need to put together. I really apologize that this is going to take some more time than it already has. We're looking at me basically completing a chapter almost a year after I finished the last one, and there are still more chapters to go.... Regardless, I had best get back to writing - or, I guess, not writing because I am distracted by other things. I hope you at least enjoyed the rough draft I have now. Thank you.
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>>30542951
I don't even remember what this is.
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>>30542999
Sorry, I probably should have explained - it's Mad Science, a story I've written starting last year. First paste is here:

https://pastebin.com/40mr44VH

And this guy is here:

https://pastebin.com/mxNCCT0v
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>>30543082
ooh nice, gonna read this, it's been a while since i red something from tecnology isn't magic threads
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>>30542863
Hey man don't worry about it too much. I mean yeah the writer's block sucks but you're still working on it and it's always nice to get an update
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>>30543082
I really should get around to reading this
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>>30541201
>>30541244
I feel like Anon showing Twilight neural networks like this could be an interesting one shot
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>Be Anon
>Crashed on a hostile alien planet with nothing more than some sheets of iron and your wits
>Need to build up industry to produce a rocket with a satellite to get rescued
>It's taking soooo long
>Four hours have passed already and you've barely just built your first diesel engine
>It runs on coal, but who's judging?
>You cough
>Wow, it turns out dozens upon dozens of automatic factories and mines powered by dirty, dirty coal are polluting as fuck.
>You hope there aren't any locals to get annoyed by that.
>Eh, the dense forest should filter out the worst of the pollutants.
>Anyway, time to build another mass iron foundry.

>Be Twilight "Princess" Sparkle
>About an hour ago huge clouds of disgusting shit started spewing from deep inside the Everfree Forest
>Assemble your squad to go deal with it
"Rollcall!"
>"I like dresses."
>"I like parties."
>"I like farming."
>"I like animals."
>"I'm gay."
>Perfect, everyone's here.
"Girls. We've got a situation. Remember that dragon thing in S01E07? It's like that."
>"Oh, wit' tha' polut'n? That'll be darn bad for me crerps."
>"Parties"
"Ok, then it's agreed. We'll investigate!"
>"Dresses!"
>"Animals!"
"Books!"
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>30546428
>"I like books."
>"I like dresses."
>"I like parties."
>"I like farming."
>"I like animals."
>"I'm gay."

BY YOUR POWERS COMBINED, I AM CAPTAIN PLANET.
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LP where are you, this is about the time you usually start doing updates until around Christmas give or take a few months.
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LP will surely return
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>>30543082
There s some wrongly placed meme arrows and the stopping point is just evil, but its still as good as I remembered it to be. Thanks Kimi
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Sorry I'm late. Started playing video games again which isn't exactly great for productivity.

>Against all odds life had returned to normal.
>Lyra had no leads at the moment, none that she could safely follow.
>So she was left to return to her day to day life while knowing full well that Equestria was in peril.
>And also knowing that the troubles their society faced were going to grow worse.
>Her knowledge had cost her more than a few hours of sleep and plagued her dreams.
>Worrying about the future was consuming her, and she was ultimately incapable of doing anything about it.
>And so Lyra had become eager to keep busy; she needed to distract herself as much as possible.
>Right now she was preparing a stir fry for dinner.
>Freshly washed carrots lie upon the cutting board before her, ready to be chopped.
>She was about to pull the cutlery drawer open to fetch a knife, but then thought better of it.
>Instead she fetched a bowl from the cupboard.
>She turned the faucet on her sink and filled the bowl with cold water.

“Allright, Lyra. Remember what your teacher told you.”

>You’re so fat!

“No, the useful stuff he told you.”

>Lyra turned her thoughts to her previous lesson.
>Her teacher had been somewhat surprised by her choice.

>”Geyser? That’s easily the most challenging of the three. Are you certain?”

>She was certain.
>Lyra could still remember the horrible feeling in her gut as she watched the Roc charge at Bon-Bon.
>The overwhelming sense of helplessness as she watched the pony she cared so much about face what seemed an inevitable doom.
>Lyra would have done anything at that point to save her Bonny.
>There existed no line she wouldn’t cross, no principle she wouldn’t violate, and no price she wouldn’t pay.
>But her efforts were completely fruitless.
>Despite her clumsy attempts she’d failed to accomplish anything.
>Lyra was little more than an observer at that time.
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>>30550919
>And even though it all turned out fine in the end, Lyra never wanted to be that helpless again.
>Relying on weapons to protect herself was too big of a risk; she couldn’t carry such things with her at all time.
>Besides, she wasn’t an agent of S.M.I.L.E.
>She was never going to seek out a monster to fight.
>Those other techniques were useless unless she was prepared.
>And she wouldn’t be prepared with saw blades of all things unless she was planning on fighting something terrifying.

“I am, master.”

>”Very well. The idea with Geyser is to maximise pressure! Strike with a sudden blast of pressurised fluid to catch your foes off guard. Pressure, as you HOPEFULLY know, is force over an area. The smaller the area and the greater the force, the higher the pressure! And for force, mass and speed are what matter. Denser fluids are generally more destructive, but any fluid can be used in a pinch. Though I wouldn’t advise it, the air itself could be wielded as a blade! It is said that the creator of this technique, the great Babbling Brook, once cut down an entire hive of Myrmekes with his sweat alone! This is of course, false, as he left the larvae for the cleanup crew!”

>Lyra returned her focus to the task at hoof.
>The technique made a lot of sense as a whole.
>She wasn’t totally convinced that it could actually cut steel.
>But on the other hoof, she’d seen that old stallion do some scary things in the past.
“Right. Shape the water into an edge or a point, the smaller the better.”

>Lyra lifted the water out of the bowl.
>It took a few seconds, but she managed to shape it into a thin wedge.

“Squeeze it as hard as you can from all sides without breaking the shape.”

>Pressure started to rapidly build in her skull as she pressed with all her might.
>She’d wear out fast like this.
>If she was to cut that carrot, it had to be NOW!

“Release the magic holding the edge, and let the pressure burst forth!”
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>>30550926
>A heavy spray of water shot out at the offending vegetables.
>Which were totally unmarred from her blow.
>Lyra couldn’t help but pout.
>She’d put so much power into that, and it didn’t work!
>It would have been so much easier to just snap it in half with her magic.
>But that would be cheating.

>”Last time I saw somepony do that they were swinging the water around like a sword. Why aren’t you doing that?”

>Lyra had no idea she was being watched by Bon-Bon.
>Her face heated up a bit knowing that her failure had been observed.

“They did it to build up speed before hitting so the jet would have even more power. But that’s too hard for me. There’s a lot to keep track of here.”

>”Well, why don’t you just hit it with the sharpened water?”

>Lyra sat down, her head light from the strain of her failed strike.

>”You okay?”

“Yeah. Just- that’s really tiring. That would work, but I wouldn’t hit very hard. There’s practical limits on how much power you can put into a single spell before the arcane channels powering it overload. I was shaping that water with several separate telekinetic fields, each pressing as hard as I could manage, squeezing from all sides. If I just swung it I’d only be able to press from the one side. This is a way to turn dozens of spells worth of force into a single hit.”

>And it was really really REALLY hard.
>Keeping the water from spilling everywhere was hard enough.
>Shaping it into a razor’s edge, and pressing with all her might while also positioning the water?
>Lyra was worried she’d bitten off more than she could chew.
>But it was so cool!
>Even if she was never to use that spell for any practical purposes, Lyra was determined to learn it.

>”Are you going to try again?”

“Later.”

>”Well, when you do maybe don’t do it here. I don’t want you cutting through the counter.”
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>>30550934
>Oh.
>Right.
>Maybe casting spells designed for fighting the most terrifying monsters in the world inside the house wasn’t a great idea.
>The blush on Lyra’s face grew more intense.

>”I’m surprised you’re already moving to intermediate techniques.”

>Intermediate?
>Seriously?

“This isn’t advanced?”

>”Nope! Mana Tide masters can be pretty scary.”

>Not for the first time, Lyra wondered what her teacher was capable of.
>Who was he?
>He was supposedly the best.
>Perhaps the more important question was who Sweetie Drops was.
>Her teacher had said himself that Sweetie Drops was the superior fighter.
>And if she was so powerful, why did she need dangerous performance enhancers?
>And even with all that, Bon-Bon had described her last mission as rough.
>What had they made her do?
>What was S.M.I.L.E. facing?
>And if they were succeeding against such terrifying beasts, what was it they were preparing for?

>”You okay? Is something wrong?”

>Lyra banished the thoughts as quickly as she could.
>She returned to her hooves with only a little difficulty having mostly recovered from her failed attempt at cookery.

“Just a bit worried about you.”

>”I can take care of myself. Don’t you worry.”

>Lyra quickly cleaned up her spill and returned to her cooking.
>She somewhat reluctantly used proper tools to complete the task, and soon the job was done.
>Lyra happily trotted out of the kitchen with two heaping plates of steaming hot vegetables and noodles in tow to find Bon-Bon sitting at their table.
>The computer’s display had been moved to the center of the table much to Lyra’s confusion.

>”Wanna watch a movie?”

“Sure, I suppose. We can head out after dinner.”

>”No, I meant during dinner. Over the internet.”

“You can watch movies on the internet?”

>”Yup. I’m feeling like a comedy.”

>Something lighthearted DID sound appealing.
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>>30550940
>”I’ve heard good things about Defective Spires. It’s about a hotel manager.”

“That doesn’t sound very funny.”

>Bon-Bon poked at the machine for a couple seconds
>The screen showed an estimate of 3 hours for the transfer.

“3 hours? Blech.”

>Bon-Bon giggled briefly.

>”We’re over a thousand times that fast.”

>True to her word the audio and video began to play.
>It had taken far less time to get the entire movie than it had to load that page of spells.
>If S.M.I.L.E. had that much computing power, why did they need mathematical prodigies?
>Was theirs a task that computers couldn’t do for some reason?
>If so, why bother with this whole computer thing?
>Maybe they had multiple projects in the works?
>She put the thought aside for later.
>The two of them spent the evening enjoying the comforts of the modern era.
>Fresh out of season vegetables, cheap entertainment, climate control…
>The modern era had more than its fair share of problems.
>But even Lyra had to admit that it wasn’t all bad.
>Imminent doomsday aside, life in Equestria was pretty good.
>Maybe, Lyra thought, it would be best if she quit.
>All her digging had brought her was fear and misery.
>It was just as that mystery mare had warned her.
>The truth was ugly.
>And it looked like she was still just scratching the surface.
>How horrible would it be to know the whole story?
>She was foolish for thinking she could stand against S.M.I.L.E. anyway.
>If there were ponies as capable as Bon-Bon on the other team, Lyra really had no chance in the first place.
>Lyra decided it was in her best interest to give up.
>To return to her normal life.
>She retired to bed that night with a smile on her face.
>But try as she might, she couldn’t forget what she knew.
>The curiosity was eating away at her thoughts as she drifted off to sleep.
>Her dreams were troubled that night.
>She remembered none of them.

Next morning…
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>>30550946
>Lyra opened her eyes and was greeted with the soft sunlight of the early stages of dawn.
>She peeled the sweat soaked sheet off her body and headed towards the shower.
>Her good mood from the night before had passed, and in its place was curiosity and concern.
>Lyra knew that the right choice was to leave it all behind and just be a normal pony.
>It was in her best interests.
>But it was no longer an option.
>Lyra HAD to know.
>She’d tried to put it behind her and failed miserably.
>And something told her that trying again wasn’t going to work.
>The illusion of the perfectly peaceful world she’d once lived in was gone.
>And in its place was the grim visage of reality.
>She wished she could go back.
>She wanted to live the lie once more.
>But somehow she knew she was going to keep digging.
>She’d peer further beyond the veil.
>The truth hurt, but at least it was true.
>Once she’d dried herself off and brushed her coat down, she headed out to the living room.
>Bon-Bon was sitting at the computer.
>She was rapidly typing what looked like nonsense.

“Morning!”

>”Hey there.”

>She didn’t look up from her task.
>Lyra was sorely tempted to ask what she was doing.
>But there was a good chance it was classified anyway, so she kept her peace.

>”I’m working on our home’s security system. You’re allowed to ask you know, worst thing that can happen is I don’t tell you.”

“Yeah, I just don’t want to put you in an awkward position. So… security system?”

>”Never had one before because I didn’t want to catch you with it. But now that we have this thing it’s a bit different.”

“How?”

>”Computers can identify ponies. Once it’s found an intruder it can deploy automated weapons. Non-lethal, don’t worry.”

>That was VERY good to know.
>Lyra would have to watch out for hidden automated weapons.
>One more reason to quit.
>And yet she knew she couldn’t.
>The mystery would eat away at her if she left it now.
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>>30550952
>Again, that mystery mare was right.
>There was no turning back.
>Lyra would have to find out who it was.
>She was pretty certain it was Starlight Glimmer, but how to prove it?

>”I know I’ll sleep better once this is done. Even if Twilight says she’s going to fix the crime problem, Ponyville ain’t what it used to be.”

“Twilight’s fixing the crime problem?”

>”You didn’t read the news yesterday, did you?”

“Umm…”

>Lyra couldn’t see Bon-Bon’s face, but she could still somehow feel her eyes rolling in frustration.
>The display flashed from the seemingly meaningless symbols to what looked like a news article.

“You can get the news on this thing? Of course you can, why am I surprised?”

Tough On Crime
‘The time has come to put an end to criminal activity’ Princess Twilight Sparkle said this morning.
The hour long impassioned speech marks the first time the princess has made an appearance in over 3 months. In it the Princess vowed to ‘clean up the streets’ with more active policing and harsher punishments for violent criminals. While no specifics were provided, the princess assured the press that her top priority with the prisoners was rehabilitation through education and work programs which would help them develop skills for when they returned to society.
It is believed that this comes as a direct response to the attack on city hall-

>”It’s all opinion and speculation from there.”


“They wouldn’t put opinion in a news piece.”

>”You’re naive. Almost enough for it to be endearing. Almost.”

>Those words stung.
>And yet they still rang true.
>How could she claim otherwise when shocking revelations came so often?

“Why now? If this is because of the city hall thing shouldn’t they have done this like, a week ago?”

>Bon-Bon didn’t answer.
>Perhaps she didn’t have the answer.
>Perhaps it was classified.
>Either way, Lyra was intensely suspicious.
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>>30550963
“Where would I look to find out more?”

>”I dunno. Maybe Ponyville Penitentiary?”

“We have a pen in town? Since when?”

>”Like, two years ago.”

>Ponyville never needed a prison before.
>Perhaps it was just the population that had changed.
>One bad pony in a thousand wouldn’t be many before.
>But with millions of ponies in town now things were bound to change.
>Lyra knew she shouldn’t be surprised.
>And yet it seemed one more betrayal of what Ponyville once was.

“I think I’d better go check it out.”

>”Eat breakfast first. And I’m coming with.”

“You’re curious too?”

>”I don’t want you to be alone over there.”

>That wasn’t a no.
>Before long they were setting out into the burning hot morning.
>It took them a few hours to reach their destination.
>Ponyville Penitentiary stood beyond the city limits in what would otherwise be grasslands.
>Concrete walls stood tall with a thick chain link mesh tented above the building to hold in pegasi.
>Searchlights mounted atop guard towers lie dormant in the bright daylight.
>Lyra and Bon-Bon walked up the broad asphalt roadway towards the front entrance.
>The walkways stung their hooves with blistering heat.
>They made their way through the front gate, guards eyeing them from behind rows of razor wire.
>Lyra was starting to feel uneasy with all the eyes warily watching her.
>But Bon-Bon barely seemed to notice.
>She walked on head held high.
>The two of them arrived at a heavy steel door.

>”Halt! Authorised personnel only!

>Bon-Bon grunted with frustration and stepped forward.
>The door swung open on its own and the guards stepped down.

“What just happened?”

>”I’m authorised.”

>The two of them made their way into the prison.
>Lyra couldn’t help but note it was strikingly similar to the school.
>There was naught but soulless concrete wherever she looked.
>Lyra was scared of what the cellblocks looked like.
>Bon-Bon turned to a nearby guard.
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>>30550969
>”Take us to the warden. Actually? No. Bring the warden to me.”

>The guard saluted and ran off.
>Lyra looked to her friend with surprise and confusion.

“Who are you?”

>”Just a humble confectioner.”

“Riiiiiight. And I’m Princess Celestia.”

>It only took a couple minutes for the prison warden, an older Earth pony mare with a dusty orange coat, to come running up to them.

>”What- *gasp* what can I do for… um...”

>Lyra wasn’t certain if that was a gasp of shock or fear.
>Either way, that pony held Bon-Bon with great regard.

>”A confectioner. My friend here has a few questions she’d like to ask.”

>Bon-Bon casually leaned against a wall seemingly unsurprised by what had just happened.
>Lyra was still amazed.
>Her Bonny was ordering the prison warden around!

“Umm, right. So, about this work program… what’s actually being done?”

>”Is she…”

>The wardeness looked around Lyra to Bon-Bon who still seemed disinterested in the whole discussion.”

>”ST-3.”

>Lyra had no idea what that meant.
>Some kind of security clearance code perhaps?
>Was that high?

>”Manufacturing has begun on schedule. Would you like to see?”

“I would.”
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>>30550975
>Manufacturing?
>She lead them through the prison complex towards what was likely once the yard.
>What she found disturbed her deeply.
>Hoards of unsavoury looking ponies were bound to long assembly lines by thick chains.
>Each and every one of the bore an orange jumpsuit as they fiddled with layers of cloth before shoving them down the line.
>To Lyra’s horror Bon-Bon pushed past the ring of guards and walked right up to the assembly line.
>One of the inmates, a large, bulky unicorn mare, jabbed her horn right at Bon-Bon’s eye.
>There was a bright flash of light.
>And the unicorn lie on the ground, dazed.
>Bon-Bon didn’t seem to stop her inspection for even a second.
>The rest of the ponies, seemingly frightened by this show, began working more rapidly.
>She casually walked back.

>”Well, I’ve nearly seen enough.”

“You’re okay, right?”

>”Why wouldn’t I be? One last question. Where are the rest of them?”

>The rest?
>What was missing?

>”The volunteers shipped out last night.”

>There were more prisoners than that?
>There must have been hundreds of ponies there!
>Just how many were behind bars?

>”Gotcha. We’re leaving.”

>Bon-Bon started to push a very confused Lyra away.
>They were out of the prison before Lyra collected the presence of mind to start walking again.

“What just happened?”

>”They’re putting the prisoners to work. Some of them got shipped out to a work camp, probably in exchange for a shorter sentence.”

“That’s terrible!”

>”Why?”

>Why?
>WHY?

>”Bonny, that’s slavery!”

>”How do you figure?”

“It’s- how do you NOT? They’re being forced to work and they aren’t allowed to leave!”

>”Plenty of ponies have jobs they can’t leave.”

“Name one.”

>”Me.”

>Sweetie Drops couldn’t quit?
>What would they do to her if she did?
>Bon-Bon spoke up almost as though she could hear Lyra’s thoughts.
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>>30550985
>”I can’t leave because I’m needed. It’s not like they’re forcing me. But even so I really don’t have any choice. If I walk away terrible things will happen, and so I’m just as stuck as they are. I’m bound by duty, but bound no less.”

“It’s not really the same. They’re being forced to work!”

>”So what is it you propose? Should we just let them sit on their rumps all day? Why should criminals get a free ride while law obeying ponies have to work for a living?”

>Was she seriously defending this?

>”Lyra, prisons are extremely expensive. Why shouldn’t the CRIMINALS help pay their own bills?”

“What were they making?”

>”Does that matter?”

>Maybe.
>Lyra wasn’t sure.
>But the fact that her question was dodged wasn’t lost on her.

“Well... huh. It gives the princesses a reason to arrest more ponies for one! I don’t think we want that.”

>”Do you really think they’d arrest ponies just for money?”

“Yes.”

>To Lyra’s surprise Bon-Bon quickly ruffled her mane.
>Doing so while walking was a rather impressive feat that Lyra doubted she could recreate.

>”You’re a quick learner! Yeah, that’s probably going to happen. They’re making armor by the way. Cheap, obsolete stuff. The kind you might give to the police or a prison guard. They’ll probably wind up making stuff for me at some point in the future. Sure hope it gets tested properly first...”

>The prisoners were being forced to arm their own guards and captors.
>This was disgusting.

“And you’re okay with all this?”

>She didn’t answer for a while.
>Instead, she stared off into space for several minutes.
>Lyra could only imagine what she was thinking.
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>>30550991
>”We live in a dangerous world, Lyra. Equestria is an oasis of sanity and peace. Beyond those borders are terrors that nopony should ever have to see. Ideally they’d stay on the other side and we’d never have to deal with them. But that’s not how things work. Somepony has to face them. And when we go out there, when I go out there, I need support. We protect everypony, and I see no reason why everypony shouldn’t help keep us armed to the teeth. No, it’s not pretty. But sometimes? Sometimes there is no good answer.”

>Lyra still didn’t like it.
>Surely there had to be another way.
>Surely.

“So you’re okay with using slave labor to arm yourself.”

>”They have the easier half of the job.”

>There was no sympathy at all in her voice.
>Instead, it was dripping with contempt.

“What are they making you do?”

>”Nothing you need to worry about.”

>Something terrifying no doubt.
>This wasn’t who Bon-Bon was.
>But it might be who she IS.
>The last operation had changed her.
>The Bon-Bon she knew would never have acted like this.
>She wouldn’t have thrown her weight around at the prison and bossed the wardeness about.
>She wouldn’t have picked that lock back at Quills & Sofas.
>Lyra was starting to understand.
>She got why her teacher was such a jerk, why Bon-Bon was so easily irritated, why she was okay with all this madness.
>She wasn’t certain, but she had a good hunch.
>And with it came a bad feeling.

“You resent us, don’t you?”

>”Hm?”

“Civilians. You resent us civilians.”

>”I don’t resent you. We’re going to have to stop talking about this, there are other ponies nearby.”

>Lyra didn’t see any.
>Not at first.

>”Don’t look around, it’s suspicious. Yeesh. And they’re up.”

>Pegasi.
>Of course.
>They made their way back home, and Bon-Bon started speaking seconds after the front door was bolted.
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>>30550994
>”As I was saying, I don’t resent YOU. But you’re close to right. It’s… it’s not fair, you know?”

*sniff*

>The strong, confident visage that normally adorned Bon-Bon’s face was missing.
>In its place there were watery eyes and trembling lips.
>When had that happened?

>”Every member of S.M.I.L.E. winds up hating ponies eventually. We’re out there dealing with the worst the world has to offer, trying to keep Equestria safe and happy. And when we come home we’re surrounded by ponies that don’t appreciate us, that don’t even know we exist. And they complain about the most inane things. Remember when I went away to visit my parents and when I came home you were upset because you didn’t manage to get any cider before they sold out?”

>Oh.
>Oh no.

“I am so SO sorry. I can only imagine what that feels like.”

>”It’s okay. I could never stay mad at you. But the others…”

“Whoa, whoa! Colgate told you to stop grinding your teeth like that!”

>Lyra was pretty sure she’d never before seen such an angry Bon-Bon.
>It looked like her face was about to pop!
>Yet another worrying mood swing.

>”I risk life and limb to make Equestria safe. And then I come home and there are beasts who claim to be ponies undoing all my work. I’ve worked SO HARD to purge evil from this world, and they see fit to make MORE of it? So, yes. I’m okay with using criminals as cheap labor. It’s better than they deserve. I- I think I need to be alone for a bit.”

“Oh. Okay. Just… if you ever need an ear, I’m here for you.”

>Bon-Bon cracked a small but genuine smile at the words.

>”Thank you.”

>And then she walked to the bedroom.
>And just like that several pieces fell into place.
>Tranquil Streams was a jerk because he resented civilians.
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>>30550998
>After so many years of thankless work he was fed up with the ponies he’d protected.
>And why shouldn’t he be?
>Lyra STILL didn’t understand what they had gone through.
>She didn’t know what it meant to be an agent of S.M.I.L.E.
>And she’d never known terror the way he had.
>Was this Bon-Bon’s future?
>Was she destined to become a bitter old mare who seethed with rage every time somepony talked to her?
>Lyra couldn’t allow that.
>She had to find some way to let her know she was appreciated.
>And in order to do that she had to know more about S.M.I.L.E.
>She needed to understand the burden her Bonny bore.
>It was then that Lyra added a goal to her growing list.
>She was going to find out what exactly Sweetie Drops did for a living.

That night…

>Lyra reluctantly woke up.
>It was still the dead of night, and she desperately wanted to go back to bed.
>But there was a problem.
>Lyra was shivering.
>It was cold!
>She peeled off the sweat drenched sheet and climbed out of bed.
>Bon-Bon pulled it over herself and curled up into a ball, tail tucked over her muzzle.
>Lyra couldn’t help but take a moment to admire the heart melting sight.
>She tore her eyes away and headed to the closet to fetch heavier bedding.
>When Lyra returned her Bonny was shivering heavily.
>Lyra peeled the sheet off with her magic and cast it aside.
>To her surprise it didn’t crumple.
>Rather, the frozen fabric stayed rigid.
>Lyra took great care in wrapping the sleeping pony up with heavy blankets and comforters.
>She tucked them in under her body with her hooves.
>It didn’t take long for Bon-Bon to stop shivering.
>But it was still quite literally freezing cold.
>Just the day before it was sweltering hot.
>The air conditioner was still running even.
>Lyra quickly shut it down.
>Having grown accustom to it, Lyra had stopped noticing just how noisy that machine really was.
>And with it gone she could hear the winds howling.
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>>30551007
>It was an unnatural sound, not the kind one would normally associate with a strong wind.
>It had a maddened animalistic sound to it.
>Lyra was starting to get scared.
>She hesitantly looked out a window.
>It was snowing.
>HARD.
>Lyra rushed back to the bedroom.
>Bon-Bon was still sleeping.
>Somehow.
>She’d always been a heavy sleeper despite her profession.
>Lyra was sorely tempted to wake her up and ask what was going on.
>But she had a hunch.
>It was silly.
>They weren’t real.
>Just like giants and secret agents.
>Lyra snuck her box of contraband out from under her bed.
>She retrieved the visor.
>And she walked to the kitchen to peer out the window.
>The visor zoomed in at her command.
>Massive blue spectral beasts weaved throughout the skies leaving massive stormclouds in their wake.

“Wendigo.”

>They were real.
>How could they be real?
>Wendigo were just a story meant to scare foals.
>But there they were.
>They had a maddened glint in their sunken eyes.
>Even though Lyra was so far away she couldn’t help but feel it was staring straight through her soul.
>Its jaw distended far too low to reveal not rows of razor sharp teeth, but nothing.
>Not air nor ice, just a seemingly endless void of blackness.
>A blinding light filled the sky nearly searing Lyra’s eyes.
>She took off the visor and blinked a few times to clear her eyes.
>Looking up at the sky she could barely make out a few faint flashed.
>She donned the visor once more and zoomed in, not quite so much this time.
>There must have been thousands of windigo up there.
>And only a hooffull of pegasi.
>They all bore sleek dark grey suits that bore a striking resemblance to Derpy’s invisibility suit.
>Except that the heavy battery pack her suit had on the back had been swapped out for an even heavier looking battery of metal tubes.
>The tubes themselves were easily twice the length of the fliers, with a girth that could put the proudest of trees to shame.
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>>30551014
>The visor refused to identify the fliers.

NAME REDACTED
ID#187
ST-3 CLEARANCE

>They each had their own number, and all carried the same clearance level.
>Wasn’t that what Bon-Bon had said Lyra had?
>One of them let loose a volley of shots from the tubes they carried on their back.
>Flames streaked through the sky on the backs of what looked like giant arrows.
>How could a pegasus possibly carry that payload?
>Were they made of some super light material?
>Or did S.M.I.L.E. have yet more secrets to their equipment?
>The massive arrows each split into hundreds of smaller arrows that all slammed into the beast.
>A massive fireball engulfed the windigo.
>And when the flames subsided nothing remained.
>The pegasus who fired the projectile immediately went into a nosedive to avoid hitting their own fireball.
>They looped up behind the blast and did a quick half spin to re-orient themselves, right behind another windigo.
>The ice monsters charged at the fliers, but somehow, some way their lunges always fell just short of striking.
>The pegasi always seemed to lazily drift out of the way of blasts of frost, almost as though the wind itself knew where to take them.
>Another volley was let loose.
>They were fighting windigos.
>And they were winning.
>What’s more was they seemed to be winning with ease.
>They knew they could and they were prepared to do it.
>Odds were that fights like this were taking place all over the globe.
>The heat wave suddenly made sense.
>They were trying to keep everything as hot as possible to buy as much time as they could to fight the windigos off.
>Which meant they knew they’d be coming.
>What had caused them to return?
>Was this the doomsday that they feared?

“No. No, it isn’t.”
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>>30551020
>Using the foals was a long term plan.
>There were years yet before any of them had even the slimmed chance of graduating.
>They were worried about something else.
>Another windigo disappeared in a skyborne inferno.
>They feared something bigger than this.
>Because S.M.I.L.E. no longer feared the windigo.
>They weren’t afraid of the monsters that nearly froze the whole world.
>Because S.M.I.L.E. could do the impossible.
>Sweetie Drops could do the impossible.
>Lyra glanced toward the bedroom.

NAME REDACTED
ID#000
ST-2 CLEARANCE

>000
>Double O Zero.
>In the novels that designation was reserved for the highest ranking field operative.
>Could it really be?
>Was her Bonny really at the top of S.M.I.L.E.?
>Lyra tucked the visor away and shoved the box under the bed.
>She looked at the sleeping pony on the bed, all wrapped up tight in a quilt.
>Just her muzzle was poking out.
>Bon-Bon let out a contented sigh in her sleep.
>And Lyra knew.
>Those were the sounds of one of the most dangerous ponies in history.
>And possibly the most dangerous pony alive.
>The Bon-Bon burrito rolled over, a cute little smile upon her face...

That's it.

I'd like to ask that we not have a flame war regarding prison labor. I was sorely tempted to not go there just because of this, but you're all mature enough to keep civil. Right?

And before anybody points out how stupid it is to have prisoners make military hardware, prison labor in the US actually does produce Kevlar vests and combat helmets for the army. I'm not making this up.
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>>30551057
Maybe it's the two weeks between updates causing me to forget details but Bon Bon level of bitchiness feels like it's a bit too much too quickly with not enough build up. The scene came across as like dam breaking but I don't remember the cracks forming.
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>>30551057
Eh, prison labour makes sense. Just on a purely economic and rehabilitation level since it teaches skills and helps pay for their upkeep. Easier to get hired when you know how to work industrial machines or how to cook and shit.


As to having them make mil-grade hardware? That's logical for a society gearing up for total war against a force that seemingly renders shit like windigo's normal and beatable but I question producing armour. Logic implies that whatever they are going to face is so much stronger than current threats, that even their best armour won't bear it's attacks long if at all. Yet they are taking the time needed to produce "cheap, obsolete" armour rather than focusing on sheer firepower or some sort of super weapon?

It implies that whatever they are going to be facing, ain't as strong (individually) as we previously might have assumed if this armour is in any way sufficient which means either it is stronger in some unknown way or it is far more numerous than we might expect. Enough so to render ponies, who have at least 187 highly trained field agents along with their ordinary armed forces and various other such things like automated defences, at a disadvantage.


This ain't X-com versus the aliens. This is more like the Imperial Chinese attempts to resist western control over their country but a bit more successful though from the way they are talking it seemingly ain't enough by a long shot.


>>30551208
Eh, she's a secret agent who's trying to keep her past hidden and shit. Makes sense that we wouldn't have gotten any signs since Lyra wouldn't.
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>>30551459
Remember the armor was stated as being cheap and obsolete and meant for police and security guards
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>>30552348
I know but seemingly they wouldn't need it.


I mean, if they want to suppress these prisoners and keep them cattled. They could just install automated defences and shit. Not to mention that Lyra has, in a few months of good training with no prior experience or any sorts of skill like a cutie mark, became a very deadly individual.

Logic therefore implies that they could easily have a few guards suppress such a population of prisoners with ease and that armour would be fairly pointless.


And if we assume they are producing it so that their guards in SMILE have such armour, why bother with outdated shit? Seeing as their opponents have been stealing the next-gen shit they've been developing.
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>>30436963
Crystal IV
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>>30551208
Hrm. I was meaning to suggest that she was feigning normality and that having a disagreement with Lyra was the proverbial straw. That said you do have a point. Looking back at it the signs weren't numerous enough. This warranted more buildup.
Good feedback.

>>30551459
>>30552388
Wow. I honestly wasn't expecting anybody to put that much thought into this. I'll tell you right now, you're onto something.
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>>30551057
Is BonBon the Big Boss?
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thanks for the green!
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>>30552762
>Wow. I honestly wasn't expecting anybody to put that much thought into this.
This is what happens when you play quests over on /qst/, you'll either learn just how many waifu's a man can have or you pick up a skill at this shit or both.

>I'll tell you right now, you're onto something.
Well shit that is worrying but it does narrow down what it could be.


Let's review what we know so far:

1) They are building something in tartarus. (Possible source of attack? Maybe a recruiting centre for additional forces from underworld)

2) Even with technology and literal magical abilities beyond most modern tech, they are still not strong enough. (regard Lyra's combat abilities with minimal training compared to what time they have and what they are willing to do)

3) They need computing power but at the same time need sheer brain power skilled in mathematics to solve a problem / equation which would imply either they haven't figured out how to phrase it for a computer to solve, they need more power or it is something a computer can't do.

4) They are producing body armour which is outdated and cheap in large numbers. Implying that this ain't gonna be a fight won by fighting some sort of huge beast (where such armour would prove pointless against it's attacks) but that instead they are facing a far more numerous threat which are individually weaker.

5) Bonbon, who is the strongest / most veteran field agent, needed to consume combat enhancement drugs to combat a threat which we know nothing about. (either gives us a scale of how strong the threat they are worried about is OR she was fighting an incursion of that threat, something smaller scale. A raiding party or something...)

6) Anything I've forgotten.


Jesus this is starting to be as dark as 40k yet it all makes logical sense which somehow makes it all the more terrifying.
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>>30553036
now that you mention 40k what if the reason for the cheap armor was so they could arm everybody and they're taking an imperial guard approach of trying to drown the foe in bodies
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>>30553907
That only works in 40k because they have enough population to throw at the issue and enough industry too.


Equestria? They've only just got the internet and various other such things so although they may be advancing fast, I doubt their industry is moving as fast. Same goes for their population but I can't provide anywhere near as much proof thanks to the lack of a focus into that sort of thing.
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>>30551057
The issue of prison labor has always been one of practicality against principal. Nobody argues that there isn't good reason to do it and nobody argues that there aren't moral concerns. Here we see smile choosing pragmatism over principle. Not for the first time and likely not for the last.

>>30554442
We do know a bit about their industry. They're flat broke and making stuff by hoof in a prison yard. An industrial powerhouse would have a proper factory and automate most of the process.
Their industry is lagging behind their tech.
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>>30542951
well it took almost a year for an update but at least you are not dead
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>>30554849
True but a large portion of that is because they are advancing so quickly but the point stands.

Why are they bothering to produce such equipment, which is already outdated, when they have at least 12 years? Logic implies you focus on mining and infrastructure for the first few decades then industry then actual military shit so you maximise your ability to produce it.

Not to mention the fact that they are continuing to advance, so this armour will only become worse and worse compared to what they could make.


What it does imply is that they must need it NOW. That there is something out there that is straining their resources and such.
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Perhaps the armor is for police/guards Not for use against the threat, rather to equip them against the general population.
"Things are going to get worse"
The promised crackdown on crime.
Sounds like the set up for a police state
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>>30556151
Except as I have already stated, if they were trying to do that why not make use of automated turrets and shit? Why not just train your guards in the fighting styles like Lyra is learning?

Seemingly armour ain't needed for policing as the sheer firepower of anyone who is actually good at fighting renders armour useless and the rest of the time even a moderately trained guard could kill or incapacitate their foes with just their spit or some sand or a few metal pins.
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>why not make use of automated turrets and shit? Why not just train your guards in the fighting styles like Lyra is learning
1. Automated turrets are expensive as shit. Why don't China or North Korea have them at every crosswalk?
2. Training can only go so far. Besides the fact that it takes a shitload of resources to fully train one pony to the standards that Lyra is getting, let alone the entire police force of a Police. State. (Take a guess at how many there would be), One pony is only going to be able to do so much with their fancy water blades before some pony from the crowd of pissed off civilians surrounding them manages to slip a knife into their back.

Better to be safe than sorry
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>>30556463
>Automated turrets are expensive as shit.

Also, when you're connecting weapons to an automated system, you'd better be really, really, really sure there are no software bugs and hope your automated turrets don't occasionally just go nuts and start mowing random people down just for coming within range of them.

We've had robotic weapons for a while. What's a heat-seeking air-to-air missile but a rocket with a robot eye and heat-sensor brain that's programmed to stare at hot things and try to ram itself into them? That's 1950s technology--but there's always a human in the loop, watching and deciding whether or not to press the button and turn it loose to kill.

An automated weapons system with no human oversight, one that decides on its own whether or not to shoot? That scares the SHIT out of me even if it isn't mobile.
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>>30556463
Regarding the training it's worth noting that Lyra is an exceptional specimen. She's been repeatedly described as extremely powerful and just shy of being a prodigy. She also went to the best magic school in existence for who knows how many years. Add to that that her teacher is described as literally THE best and we can assume that this is exceptionally fast progress. The rank and file could never keep up with this pace. And all she can do is throw rocks.
Meanwhile you can learn to shoot an AR-15 in an afternoon. Maybe you wouldn't be great with it without more extensive training, but it's scarier than rocks.
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What does TiM think about going fast?
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>>30558685
Faster and faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death
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>>30558685
It lead to a dark path, one that mankind's most brilliant scientist deemed too dangerous.
It lead to Sanic.
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>>30556463
>1. Automated turrets are expensive as shit. Why don't China or North Korea have them at every crosswalk?
Yet Bonbon rigs up a automated defence system for her house with a commercially available computer and her technical knowledge which seeing as she is a field agent, implies they could easily do better.

Not to mention they have all the computing power of the limited computers, so they could easily provide a percentage of that to process any data rendering the turrets a fairly light and simple system that transfers data for processing to off-site computers.

Which seeing as Lyra and Bonbon got a movie, presumably of high / decent quality, in a few minutes we can easily conceive of it not effecting the performance of the turret to any great degree.

>2. Training can only go so far. Besides the fact that it takes a shitload of resources to fully train one pony to the standards that Lyra is getting, let alone the entire police force of a Police. State.
Like fuck it is taking an large amount of resources, from what we've seen this guy could train 40 pupils like this at once and seemingly they have more than just him lying around to teach magical combat methods and such.

>One pony is only going to be able to do so much with their fancy water blades before some pony from the crowd of pissed off civilians surrounding them manages to slip a knife into their back.
Which is why you don't send a single guard to fight off a horde of civilians without someone watching their backs. That'd just be incompetence.
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>>30556575
Bonbon feels confident in the automated defences enough so to make use of them in her own home. That speaks for either her ignorance (unlikely) or for her knowledge of them (likely).

>>30556791
The rank and file don't need to be great. They just need to be decent. Which seeing as they can have them training every day, all day rather than the less constant training Lyra is undergoing, they'd be able to maintain a fairly good rate of improvement. Maybe not as fast as Lyra but they'd certainly develop a better ability at the techniques they'd been practising all that time since they would have been training the same techniques for a longer period and would thus have more experience.
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>>30558685
Now what does TiM think about building, maintaining, resupplying, and flying hyper sonic jets?
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>>30558874
I think you'll find us welcoming to such an idea
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>>30558835
>Bonbon feels confident in the automated defences enough so to make use of them in her own home. That speaks for either her ignorance (unlikely) or for her knowledge of them (likely).

Or she never read the disclaimer that used to come with Microsoft Java, back when there was such a thing:

"The software product may contain support for programs written in Java. Java technology is not fault tolerant and is not designed, manufactured, or intended for use or resale as on-line control equipment in hazardous environments requiring fail-safe performance, such as in the operation of nuclear facilities, aircraft navigation or communication systems, air traffic control, direct life support machines , or weapon systems, in which the failure of Java technology could lead directly to death, personal injury, or severe physical or environmental damage."

In other words:

"Don't use this code for realtime control, for weapons systems, or for anything else that may put life or limb at hazard. It isn't man-rated, it isn't really thing-rated, and we don't claim that it's worth a good goddamn for anything at all, at all."

But maybe the controlling software isn't written in Java, and wasn't sold by MicroSoft.
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>>30559346
Seeing as the SMILE group produced this coding language and software, chances are they aren't going to be messing around with some half-assed system since they are most likely using it too as they only started releasing them to the world and to the population recently but seemingly had developed them earlier than that.

Plus we skip over a large portion of the difficulties of early programming. As many problems arose thanks to the poor quality of the parts, incompatibility of parts, incompatibility of code and various other such things.

Yet these computers are all made to the same high standards, very high standards at that seeing as they can download films in a matter of minutes and provide seemingly large amounts of computing power even when limited.

Not to mention all the parts are the exact same so there can be no issues there and all the code is being made by the same people in a very short period for these parts specifically.


Literally the reliability of these systems is higher than it should be because there is only one set of parts, the code for which is being by the same people as programmed the OS and thus any problems or flaws in the parts can be reliably compensated for without it effecting performance and all the programs and such were made concurrently with plenty of time to fix any flaws.
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>>30436973
cont pls
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>>30559381
...so, their code is just magically more stable, more reliable, and more competently written than anything that has ever existed in the real world, despite the fact that they're using pirated and/or reverse-engineered technology that they didn't even create? Ours sure isn't, and we're the ones who invented it all.

If their code really is that good, really is that solid, really is that secure, then maybe it would make it a little more plausible if the computers and/or software are some kind of magitech that senses the programmer's intent.

One of the very first things you learn, IRL, when you're learning programming is: computers do what you tell them, not what you meant to tell them. One of the second things you learn, IRL, is that every non-trivial program contains at least one bug.

Programming is a tremendously difficult discipline, requiring an unusual--some would say autistic--capacity for abstract thought. And the professional field is full of people with phony degrees, which is why potential employers have to ask people with grad degrees in CS to demonstrate they grasp the basics with things like the old "Fizz Buzz test."

http://wiki.c2.com/?FizzBuzzTest

So, maybe the ponies' dev environment is magical, such that at some level it understands the programmer's intent and does what the programmer intends rather than exactly what the programmer types. Given that we already have a setting full of talking pastel ponies, with pretty pony princesses who raise the sun by magic every morning, that's not such a stretch.
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>>30559444
>...so, their code is just magically more stable, more reliable, and more competently written than anything that has ever existed in the real world, despite the fact that they're using pirated and/or reverse-engineered technology that they didn't even create?
What I am saying is that the code they are making, which is being made by the same people who coded everything else for those computers including the actual language, is specifically tailored to the parts of the computers which are all consistent in their performance, design, make and such. Thus their code is going to be more reliable as there are far fewer points at which a error or problem could occur and they need not worry about any sorts of problems arising from conflicting shit or missing drivers or such since everything was developed together and there isn't any need to support "non-contemporary" programs produced for a previous generation of computers and such.

>Ours sure isn't, and we're the ones who invented it all.
And they did too as far as we know. They just had a handy dandy working example to base their attempts off.

>One of the very first things you learn, IRL, when you're learning programming is: computers do what you tell them, not what you meant to tell them.
Mate I've studied and done programming, don't talk down to me as if I hadn't.

>One of the second things you learn, IRL, is that every non-trivial program contains at least one bug.
Depends on how long you give a programmer to work and if they are limited to a certain file size. Not to mention if they actually care to fix such things.
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>>30559479
>Mate I've studied and done programming,
You sure don't write like you do.

>code they are making, which is being made by the same people who coded everything else

Like IBM, when they were The Computer Company Monopoly in the 60s, 70s, and 80s? They weren't known for the quality of their software either. Hardware yes--considering they invented things like hard disk drives--software, not so much.

...also, dropped. Someone tried to give you constructive criticism, and you decided to be an asshole. It's no longer worth stretching my disbelief with magical computers with magical operating systems and magical code that's better than anything humans have ever produced. Bye.
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>>30559518
>You sure don't write like you do.
How in the fuck would I write like I study programming?

>Like IBM, when they were The Computer Company Monopoly in the 60s, 70s, and 80s? They weren't known for the quality of their software either. Hardware yes--considering they invented things like hard disk drives--software, not so much.
Yet again you disregard the rest of my writing for the reasoning as to it being more reliable.

>Someone tried to give you constructive criticism, and you decided to be an asshole.
Like fuck I did.

>It's no longer worth stretching my disbelief with magical computers with magical operating systems and magical code that's better than anything humans have ever produced.
I never said that it was magically better. Just that they had far fewer points of failure thanks to differences in situations meaning theirs would therefore perform more reliably and effectively.

>Bye.
And good riddance.
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>>30559479
Different Anon here, but...

>Depends on how long you give a programmer to work and if they are limited to a certain file size.
Not really. In any non-trivial program, you have such an absurd number of possible unforeseen conflicts or errors that they're guaranteed to be there. That's why code reviews are so important in the development process, and why good development includes test cycles. No matter how good someone is at coding, something won't work quite as planned. This is even more the case when you're working with in a team.

Whether someone actually cares enough to fix a bug is irrelevant. They need to know it's there first and there's no economically feasible way to test every single conceivable use case before shipping out a piece of software.
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>>30559567
>In any non-trivial program, you have such an absurd number of possible unforeseen conflicts or errors that they're guaranteed to be there.
Many of which arise from the various things ticking away inside computers, made by different people, in different countries, in different years, in different companies, for different version of a OS or program and so on. They have mitigated many of these errors and thus I feel that the number of potential conflicts is far, far lower.

Errors however arise thanks to the actual code itself and thus depends on the programmers and their work. Which we can't evaluate without seeing an example of it or hearing from OP / Bonbon as to the quality of her / their work.

>That's why code reviews are so important in the development process, and why good development includes test cycles.
I know.

>No matter how good someone is at coding, something won't work quite as planned. This is even more the case when you're working with in a team.
Which is why you do prototyping and testing. Then you fix whatever was broken and check again.

>Whether someone actually cares enough to fix a bug is irrelevant. They need to know it's there first and there's no economically feasible way to test every single conceivable use case before shipping out a piece of software.
Depends on the software's parameters but I don't have any reason to believe that Equestria, a nation seemingly on a total war footing, couldn't set aside sufficient numbers of people and time to refine the programs they are releasing to a good degree.


Anyhow we are getting very off topic as the original point of contention was that the Equestrian's couldn't rely on automated defences for the purpose of suppressing their people / prisoners and thus it's implications as to why they were bothering to produce armour. The point being raised that the automated defences weren't reliable enough which I disagree with.
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>>30553036
I only have a passing understanding of 40k so take this with a grain of salt.
40k is its own worst enemy in some ways. There are limits to how much badness the human mind can handle after which point it just gets silly. One death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic.
Red Shift feels darker because we're taking the time to explore the problems of individuals and then stating that these issues are widespread rather than skipping straight to the problems of interplanetary empires. It also helps that we're seeing these problems manifest before our eyes and that we're contrasting them with the Equestria we all know and love.

And this discussion is great. I likely wasn't going to explore the details of automated weapons systems, but that's definitely going on the to do list now.
Looking into their industries was always planned. I'm just not certain how yet.
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>>30559767
>I only have a passing understanding of 40k so take this with a grain of salt.
Eh, your analysis is fairly accurate for the most part but we do occasionally get a nice 1st person view into the universe through things like the books based around and in the universe.

>And this discussion is great. I likely wasn't going to explore the details of automated weapons systems, but that's definitely going on the to do list now.
Good to know as it'll definitely help determine the threat they are facing and end this discussion.

>Looking into their industries was always planned. I'm just not certain how yet.
Well you could always have Lyra get a new job or have them get a TV. Then you just need to rip off "How it's made", "Insane engineering" or any other number of such shows. Plus there is always the possibility of having Lyra infiltrate a factory or something with Derpy.

Still man, you do you and we will all read and enjoy it.
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>>30511352
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>>30559787
And boy there are some great books in the 40k universe. Gaunt's Ghosts, Ciaphas Cain, and Horus Heresy are all a bunch of great series of books
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>>30561193
Anon as a canterlot alchemy teacher and zebra dropout making p0ni crack when?
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>>30563050

>It's just Anon and Zecora boiling down sea water.

Zecora is a little unnerved by Anon casually sprinkling it on his food.
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>>30563706
>Not washing the salt in Hexane to remove any impurities
>Not going the few extra steps to outdo the other salt labs
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>>30563050
I'd be down for a story like that
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>>30563050
crystal blue persuasion plays softly in the background
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>>30564602
>The Yakistani Cartel notice that sales of their Himalayan rock salt are dropping
>A mysterious new player has been flooding the market with product that's not only cheaper, but also purer
>Three enforcers meet and agree to track down the mysterious salt-lord Heisenburger, considered to be not just a chemical genius, but also an aggressive expansionist with untold ambition.

>"Yo, ain't you gonna put some pants on, Mr. A?"
>You scratch your bare stomach as the sun pounds down all around you
>Fucking Rainbow Dash.
>It's like a million degrees, too hot to wear anything.
"No. We need to preserve the integrity of the cook."
>"The what?"
>Jesus, why can't a flabby, pasty, middle-aged man stand around in his underwear without being asked a million questions?
>You do what you always do when a pony asks a question you can't be bothered to answer, and just make something up
"Micro-particulates of iodine might have caught on my clothes. We need to keep the cooking site sterile."
>The cooking site is an upside down port-a-potty you rigged up to produce salt from salt-water.
>It's neither sterile, nor really a cooking site in any sense of either word.
>"Oh."
>Dash screws up her face in concentration for a few seconds
>"Do I need to take my pants off?"
"You... you don't wear pants, Dash."
>"Oh. Oh, yeah."
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>>30565970
Anon and RD making salt?
More pls
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>>30565970
kek
More
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Hi guys, I previously posted my pilot story about a pair of scientists monitoring Equestria and before I continued with the chapter I thougth why not build the world around it and started to play Stellaris to get more ideas.

But then, I got bored and tried to piece together the small ideas to build the story and the possible plots. Then I forgot to create a pastebin account. In the end, with so many ideas I just made a mess of myself.

TL.DR: I made a story, I wanted to made it a bit bigger and then I just got confused and bored.

But the thing is that I got a prologue of the story and I'm starting to expand the fisrt chapter and plan the next chapters. I also posted in the pastebin a text with some ideas for new greens in case of boredom and progressively I'll update it if I got more stuff.

https://pastebin.com/u/stellar_anon
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>>30567428
that sounds amazing, keep up the good work
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>>30567576
Should I post the prologue in the meantime,
or maybe wait until someone have another green?
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>>30567750
do it, post it now
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>>30567820
Ok then

>Be Scientist aboard the UNS Faust
>The Terran Science Directorate need a report of those planets
>Surveying isn't fun.
>The last time the ship sensors detected an object orbiting a G class star at high speed.
>It was an odd piece of ceramic from ancient times
>This was a waste of my time
>The gravitic sensors detect something
>High energy concentrations detected
>oh_shit.png
>A fleet of space amoeba
>time to go lads
"Activate the warpdrive, NOW"
>"Sir, we require more energy for the FTL travel to be succesful."
"Deactivate the shields and redirect the energy to the warpdrive"
>You need to get out of this place before these creatures wreck your shit
"Come on, what's the hold up?"
>"We need to establish the coordinates."
"Go to anywhere, but please we need to GET THE FUCK OUT!"
>The warp bubble wraps the vessel
>Then in an instant everything became blurry.
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>>30567946

>Where are your hands?
>Oh, they are still in its place
>The entire ship went dark
>But it was only for a few seconds
>You heard about the incident of the first warpdrive prototype
>The crew disappeared without a trace
>The reports said that the cameras inside the antique vessel got flashed
>And the crew vanished
>This is not going to happen right now, right?
>RIGHT?
>But then the lights turned on and the crew started to wake up.
"Hey Phillips, you ok?"
>"Yes sir. Ow my head"
>He looked like a guy who got drunk for the first time.
"Tell me, where are we in the stellar map?"
>"Well sir..."
"Just don't rush it, ok"
>He is recovering his senses
>It took a few minutes
>It seemed that the entire ship rebooted its systems
>"Ok sir, the coordinates are..."
>It was a small pause, but the look on his face
>he was astonished
>"Sir... we are..."
"Yes?"
>"We are... *gulp* In another star system"
>WHAT?
>An unknow system, IMPOSSIBLE
>calm down, just display the hyperlane map in the main monitors
"Activate the monitors, and display the Hyperlane Map."
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>>30567965

>A series of dots and lines were shown in the monitor
>These are the star systems and each share a connection between them
>The galaxy has a system of microwormholes
>Some factions use a hyperdrive engine to travel between stars like a road
>Other uses huge stations capable of enlarging the microgates into a huge one
>This is the map of the entire galaxy
>The entire crew saw where the ship is
>According to the map, you and your crew are in the void
>But the subspace sensors detect a solar system in front of you
>Are the sensors broken or a god-like entity is playing a joke?
>NO
>Seeing is believing
"Open the window barriers"
>During the escape maneuvers the ship activated the its defense protocol
>Each window have a plasteel shielding that closes in case of an inminent attack
>The lights inside went off and the security armor unfolds
>A strange yet familiar light blinds us for a few seconds
>The polarized glass revealed a bright star in front of us
>A Class G Star and some planets, just like the Sol System
>But this one is different
>You can feel it
>In fact, the sensors detect something unusual
>Whatever this star system is hiding must have value.
>You survey every celestial body
>Nothing new, just the ususal
>But things kick when you took a look on the 3rd planet
>The ship start the surveillance procedures
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>>30567984

>"Sir, the sensors detect sentient life on the planet"
"Tell me the age of the species"
>"Uh... there are more than one dominant species"
>huh?
"Huh? repeat that, Lieutenant"
>"Well... the planet is inhabited by different species, right now we traced more than 5 species one of them has four variations and they are living in an early industrial age due to the use of the presence of steam-powered machines like the first steam locomotive."
>Alright this may be a normal enli...
>"But then, the sensors detect energy signatures. From electric to strange"
>wut.jpeg
"What does this means?"
>"I don't know. Maybe their research development is different than other races."
"But you can't invent the microwave oven without discovering the properties of the magnetic fields"
>"I know, but they found another way to invent future artifacts without

discovering the essencial steps"
>Well this is such a novelty
>"Wait, there is more..."
>Eh?
>"It seems that the entire planet have a weak magnetic field..."
>Ok, that is just a small anomaly
>"...and this world is tidally locked around its star."
"So it's a Tidal Locked world with a Weak magnetic field."
>"Yes, but the issue here is that these anomalies are not present at all!"
>WHAT_DID_YOU_SAID_NIGGA.vlc
"WHAT?!"
>"The planet moves by itself and the cosmic radiation are very low just like a normal continental planet"
"But, how's that even possible?"
>"I don't know, sir. Maybe something in the planet is causing the stability of the entire planet"
>Two anomalies nullified and the dominant races are still considered primitives
>Whatever is causing this, has the power to go against the major superpowers in the galaxy.
>I'm going to send my report to Central
>They can take matters into their own hands
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>>30568008

Meanwhile somewhere in the Sol System

>Here in your seat
>In your safe room
>Just checking the galactic map
>The United Nations of Earth have one eighth of the entire galaxy
>There are some small kingdoms and fations that arose from the previous owned systems
>It was an idea from the Science Directorate to enlight them technologically
>There goes the prime directive
>A quick way to obtain new species for the inhospitable planets
>"SITUATION_LOG_UPDATED"
>A report from the UNS Faust
>A cluster of primitive species living in a planet with two negative anomalies negated by unknown reasons
>This is going to be amazing

To be honest is difficult searching for Sci-Fi HQ rooms, and I get an image from that supernatural RPG game (The secret world, I think) Next time I'll make some sketches and scan them. Also, I'll expand the 1st chapter. Keep the thread alive.
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>>30568108
An interesting enough start, curious to see where you take this
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>>30568108
I think I remember your story from before. It's nice to see you pick it back up
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>>30568008
>Build observation post
>Uplift
>Set status to undesirables
>FORCED. LABOR. TILL DEATH.

If this was real stellaris
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>>30569871
kek but true
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>>30569871
There's nothing quite like a paradox game to bring out your inner genocidal tyrant.
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Would TiM be offended by a DOOM based story?
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>>30570884
No. RIP AND TEAR!
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>>30570884
Not really, but I am curious why TiM for a DOOM story.
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>>30571561
Argent Energy.
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>>30572028
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>>30572028
I guess I just think of demons and doomguy for crossovers with doom
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>>30570884
Do you have any idea when you'll finish the first chunk of greentext?
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>>30570884
>>30572028
WiKs story reminds me of the UAC with it's buildings in Tartarus and such.
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New thread when?
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>>30574646
when this thread reaches the bump limit of 500 posts
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>>30573655
I dunno. I didn't think I'd get this far.
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>>30576085
Well I hope to be able to read it someday
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>>30573031
Same but that's mostly because I haven't played the reboot yet
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>>30576781
I made a Demo post.

>”Look, I can't simply shut down Hydrant energy, out of your concerns for an invasion, one that I can clearly contain.”
>Your muzzle quivers slightly at the patronizing tone of the sole human in residence.
>The other members of the council shift subtly.
>”Obviously not, considering the recent breaches in your security that have leaked into the lands of my own country.”
>The Griffon king speaks out from his podium, a baleful glare on his face.
>”My security was not up to par when those events took place, I can assure you that it will not happen again.”
>”And if it does, with even more powerful assailants? If they break through and target your own facilities instead of another nation?”
>The modulated voice of the human in the room titters.
>”They will not break through, the technology used to contain and hold them back is improved upon daily, given enough tim-”
>He's cut off as Princess Celestia interrupts him.
>”Everything fails if put under enough duress. The technology you hold so much confidence in is not infallible.”
>”Time, the defenses provided will be enough to destroy even the largest of containment breaches with little difficulty.”
>He unflinchingly finishes his sentence as if the outburst had never happened.
>A heavy breath comes out of the princess.
>The human folds his metallic hands behind his back and casts his unblinking eyes across the room.
>After a few moments Princess Celestia speaks up again.
>”And if the largest containment breach happens now, your whole company will be wiped out then. I've faced invasions from tartarus before, and you I do not trust to stop another one.”
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>>30578096
>”Your lack of faith in the defences of Tartarus Gate and my operation is disappointing.”
>He steps down from the podium and begins a slow walk to the exit of the auditorium.
>”If you do not close the gate and stop the invasions, they Griffon Kingdom will remove it by force!”
>A quick glance and a parting word is all the king receives in response as the door is pushed open.
>”Noted.”
>The final word echos in your mind as you transcribe it on the paper.

[Insert (you)'s for more content]
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>>30578100
You have my curiosity about the events leading up to this moment
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>>30578262
That's a government secret.
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>>30578289
Oh well at least I should be able to see how their plan falls apart the second time
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>>30578289
so are humans like a group of secret science advisors or what?
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>>30578100
An interesting enough start, raises a few questions. Looking forward for more
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>>30578100
>”If you do not close the gate and stop the invasions, they Griffon Kingdom will remove it by force!”
>A quick glance and a parting word is all the king receives in response as the door is pushed open.
>”Noted.”
Yeah that's not going end well is it
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>>30578100
If a generic anon is going to be DOOM MARINE I'll be sorely disappointed
>ywn have an angry DOOM MARINE mare break your pelvis
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>>30584035
>ywn have an angry DOOM MARINE mare break your pelvis
why must life be so cruel
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>>30584035
Why not both?

They can even have angry hate sex after the fight.
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biumop
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>>30585808
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>>30585279
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>>30588715
that rd will never not creep me out
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>>30590381
>That's the fucking point
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>>30590689
yeah but you think seeing it often enough would dull the creep factor
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>>30591489
Some things will just always be creepy
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>>30593986
I need more giant robots and mlp in my life
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>>30592268
page 9 aint fine
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>>30596752
this
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>>30585279
hey rogal you still here?
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>>30598263
I'm just early distracted and make promises I can't keep.

I was pressured into buying MGSV recently and I've been playing that.
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>>30600526
Asides from some issues with the ending that's a damn good game
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*subtle implication that i may try to into green to save thread with an idea that i pitched nearly 8 months ago if my hours arent fucked for the next month*
You guys like Gryphons, right?
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>>30602643
i'm certainly a fan
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>>30602643
I'd be down for some griffon action
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>>30602643
So what's the story about?
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>>30604511
I did a quick search through the archives and it looks like it might be simply "anon fucks off the p0ners and helps the gryphons instead"
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>>30604990
I've fleshed it out just a tiny bit more since then, but that's the main idea.
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>>30605642
Cool I look forward to reading it
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10
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Chapter 19 is here!

>"It was impossible to keep the Eden Project's secrecy total, especially after we set up on the other side. I think what happened was that once we pulled the three people back to Earth, news got out one way or another. Then, the media came over to the facility a few days later to ask some questions, maybe interview some people - and what do they see? Tons of military vehicles on the way there, and the military setting up outside the facility. Nobody could ignore a story like that. So, now, we have two news vans lining up at the checkpoints for every supply shipment that comes in - and these aren't just from the local news. I saw three cars from BBC trying to come through in one day, the reporters in the front seat and the cameramen and equipment all packed into the back seat. Heard about some people coming from China, Russia, Japan, and even Brazil coming over to report on us from other guards, too, although I never saw them. And I swear, the 'Press' section of the facility grounds was almost half the size of the facility itself.”
-Robert Young, Security

-Luna-

>The forest air was chilly that morning. A fresh, clean breeze ran through the tall trees of the Everfree, plucking the fiery leaves off the branches and dropping them on the floor. The clouds in the sky were thin and wispy, slowly meandering across the horizon and past the bright, white sun. Luna inhaled the cool air, savoring the slight chill that filled her lungs. The Everfree's weather was impossible to control, whether by pegasi or otherwise, but she had to admit that she might not have minded all that much if it were always as nice as this.
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>>30607762

>A gust of wind rushed past her head, bringing with it the rich aromas of her breakfast. She looked down at the rough tin diningware that lay before her, the plates and cups scratched and dented from years of service. A smile stretched across her face - her breakfast might not have been the fanciest, but it was still delicious, and her knife and fork made quick work of the four-pancake stack in front of her. She delicately grabbed the porcelain cup of tea (the quartermaster had insisted on bringing it with the reinforcements from Canterlot for the use of Her Majesty) with her magic and took a sip, setting it back down gracefully with the refinement and etiquette of the highest Canterlot royalty as the taste lingered on her tongue. Luna loved her tea, whether she was in the Capitol or the Farlands, and she never left the castle without a few bags of the leaves in her saddlebags.
>Truly, it was the drink of choice for the refined, educated pony.
>She quickly glanced around, searching for any high-ranking officers or otherwise that might have been around as she sat outside her tent. They were always such a bother, she thought to herself as she chewed on another forkful of food. Nobody was around except for the occasional regular, and her grin widened as she hungrily stared at her pancakes. They would have a fit if they saw their Princess eating like this.
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>>30607773

>A minute later, Luna wiped the sticky, syrupy crumbs off of her face with her hoof and licked her lips, raising a metal cup of coffee to her muzzle as she inhaled the rich flavors of the dark roast. She tilted her head back and chugged the drink, letting a few drops spill down her neck as she did so. The warm liquid flowed down her throat, almost scalding it, and the strong, bitter taste woke her up almost immediately. It was a secret of hers that she loved coffee; the nobles were always scoffing at the coffeehouses all around Canterlot's outskirts, and she couldn't have them ogling her for enjoying the stimulant every time she went outside. After a cup, she always felt like she could take on the world - which an alicorn could anyways, but that was besides the point.
>Coffee: the working pony's drink of choice.
>Her ears perked up as they caught a thumping noise in the distance. It didn't take long for her to identify the rhythmic thuds as a messenger's steady run, the gallops closing in on her location with intense speed. Nobody in the camp would be running that fast, she thought to herself, at a time like this unless it was something important. Luna leaned back in her chair and shook her head as she wiped her mouth with a napkin, disappointed that she couldn't enjoy her breakfast in peace.
>"Princess Luna! Urgent message from Scout Group Nine!" the mare yelled as she rounded the corner towards the alicorn, her equipment clanking against her armor as she galloped. Luna curiously stared at the out-of-breath pony as she saluted her.
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>>30607782

>"What is it?" she asked.
>The messenger straightened up. "Twenty minutes ago, Group Nine reported a dragon sighting northeast of camp! Ma'am!"
>Luna's eyes widened. "A dragon?"
>"Yes! Fire dragon, estimated twenty meters."
>"Its heading?"
>"Directly south, Princess."
>She leaned back in her chair. "Is it being tracked by scouts?" Luna questioned, her voice slightly less tense.
>"Yes, Princess, Groups Eight and Seven are monitoring its behavior."
>"Very well," the alicorn sighed. "I don't think it's headed for us. Perhaps...wait, what about its location?"
>"It was five strides away from Group Nine when they encountered it."
>"Five, twelve and a half...that's about..."
Luna suddenly pushed herself out of her chair, the realization hitting her like a brick.
>"Princess? Orders?"
>She stood there for a split second, muttering something under her breath as the mare asked her for further instructions. Suddenly, without a word, Luna leaped past the confused pegasus and began to gallop towards the rising sun at breakneck speed. "Messenger!" she yelled as her hoofbeats echoed throughout the camp. "Relay these orders!"
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>>30607788

>"Princess! What are you doing?!" the messenger yelled back as the mare followed the Princess, their hoofsteps in sync as they ran past tent after tent.
>"I want all commanders and a reconnaissance squad to rendezvous west of the foreign encampment, immediately! Invisibility spells on all observers!"
>"Observers? Princess, wait! Where are you going?!" she shouted. Luna was fast, and her pursuer was beginning to lag behind.
>"Have the camp go on high alert! Prepare anti-dragon measures!"
>"Princess?!"
>"I'll be fine!" Luna called back. "No time, just deliver those orders!"
>Luna leaped into the air, her wings unfolding and extending to their full span in an instant. She furiously flapped her alicorn wings as fast as she could, the beating sound of feathers on air echoing across the treetops. Her commands hadn't been very clear, but there was no time for that. If anything, she shouldn't have taken those few seconds to issue unnecessary directives. Either way, if she was lucky she would be the first of all ponykind to observe what would happen in just a few moments.
>The only question was what she would see.
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>>30607796

-Noah-

>This was the most calm evacuation and the most panicked defense Noah had ever seen.
>At the first sign of the enormous beast lazily flapping through the sky, surveillance hit their (recently installed) panic button with blistering speed. Immediately, the evacuation alarms began to ring, calling all personnel across the outpost to orderly head through the Portgate and back onto Earth. Years of evacuation drills throughout everyone's lives prevented any confusion as everyone began to file out of their tents or head back to base, the queues back to the underground facility orderly and calm. In no time at all, all "civilians" were safe behind the portal and headed back to Earth's surface.
>After the last researcher passed through the airlocks, the second part of the contingency plan was enacted without delay. Further announcements would inform the remaining security forces to keep a lookout for a "cargo plane-sized overhead monster, ETA eleven minutes" and order them to prepare for "anti-air procedures."
>There were no "anti-air procedures."
>Noah cursed as he looked around his surroundings, searching for anything that would help him in the coming fight. The tents around him were all occupied by science equipment or living quarters, and he was too far away from the armory to make it in time. There were still about ten or so minutes before the "monster" would arrive, and his tiny little submachine gun would probably do no good against what he had in mind.
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>>30607806

>"All security personnel, prepare heavy defenses at the northern side of camp! Bring the biggest guns you have!"
>He stared at the plastic casing of his gun. The body armor piercing, 5.7-millimeter rounds loaded in the FN P-90 were all he had, and he would have to deal with it. Noah stomped off to the north side of the camp, his boots kicking up grass and dirt as he ran.
>"The target is a...a dragon, about fifty feet in wingspan and two hundred wide. ETA 7 minutes. Do not open fire unless aggression is displayed.
>The camp was eerily quiet without any researchers or construction workers in the tents and down the roads. Aside from a few security guards with heavy weapons in tow, Noah was completely alone as he hurried towards the outskirts of the encampment. The only sounds he heard as he ran down the empty road was the stamping of his feet and his heavy breathing, with the occasional shout or order from afar.
>The tents began to thin out, their canvas walls gradually being replaced by a sandbag perimeter around the camp swarming with other personnel. Noah slowed down as he walked up to the open space between the front line of defense and the tents, taking caution not to get in the way of anyone else. Security was hurriedly setting up hasty preparations for their incoming guest as well as they could, with some preparing light machine guns and others loading various rocket launchers. Some of the weapons, he noticed as he looked across the sandbags, looked like they were older than Noah himself. Nobody had expected to face an airborne threat in a world whose natives had no known motor vehicles, and he realized that they were woefully underprepared for the gigantic dragon headed their way.
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>>30607817

>Somewhere behind him, he heard a loud screeching sound. Noah turned his head towards the high-pitched noise, the telltale sound of brakes grabbing his attention. Someone had pulled a humvee up to the perimeter, and its driver was waving at him to get in.
>"What do you need?!" Noah yelled as he ran toward the armored vehicle.
>"I need someone to get on the fifty. My pal was in the Bunker when the alarms rang. You know how to operate one?"
>"I can try," Noah responded as he climbed into the humvee and onto the gunner's seat. He had ridden in one a few times back on Earth, but only as a passenger. Hopefully, the enormous Browning would work like any other gun he had operated before.
>"Awesome. Hang on, I'm gonna scoot closer up front," the driver said as he slowly drove the vehicle up to the sandbag banks. He stopped ten feet short of the tan sacks, then turned towards Noah. "That thing should be fully loaded. I dunno if this thing swivels high enough to hit what we're going to fight, but you should be able to adjust it."
>Noah nodded, then pushed the massive gun as high as it could go. Apparently, it stopped at about forty-five degrees, and he hoped that it would be high enough. After flipping open the ammunition box to see if it really was full, Noah pulled the charging handle back with a loud kerchunk, readying the weapon for firing. His fingers wrapped around the grip as he moved his head behind the sights, waiting for the first sign of trouble.
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>>30607827

>An earsplitting roar suddenly burst through the trees, the sound drowning out all other noises as it traveleled through the forest. Silence spread throughout the perimeter as everybody stopped what they were doing, their heads turned towards the sky. The echo of the roar lingered like a cloud of smoke around the camp, gradually fading out as it was replaced by another sound.
>The beating of wings.
>Noah, being on the gunner's seat on an armored vehicle, was one of the first people to spot the enormous dragon as its figure slowly rose over the treetops. His arms shook as he pulled the front sight post up towards the red beast, the bead constantly drifting off target and off center. The man barely noticed as the people around them lifted their weapons towards the sky, waiting for the behemoth to come into view.
>Another roar echoed through the forest, and Noah's breath caught as he saw the dragon spit fire out of its wide, hellish maw. The flames flew as far as the dragon was long, a red cloud of swirling fire that blossomed with deadly heat. Mumbling suddenly broke out amongst the sandbags, the nervous chatter barely audible to his ears.
>Suddenly, the dragon rose up into the sky and above the treetops, its beady eyes scanning the camp. Shouts replaced the mumbling as everyone pointed their guns at the leviathan monster. It surveyed the small group of humans below, then roared at the one hundred and eighty-four personnel defending the outpost as it slowly flapped its wings. Another jet of fire streamed out of its mouth, this one much wider than before. The fiery cloud spread across the sky into a huge blotch of heat, obscuring the dragon behind it - until it burst through the cloud completely unfazed, its wings propelling it directly towards the defenders.
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>>30607836

>Nobody recalled who was the first to open fire on that day. Noah knew it wasn't him, since he didn't pull the trigger until he heard the whoosh of a guided missile being launched, but he would later recall the details to be extremely hazy. What he did know for sure was that he didn't hesitate to unload burst after burst into the gigantic dragon as it flew straight towards them with a look of pure malice on its visage. The ear-splitting, bone-shaking Browning almost deafened Noah, and the weight of the humvee just barely kept the recoil manageable. He didn't know if he was landing his shots, but judging from the reaction of the dragon he assumed that they were doing well.
>The fire dragon was a huge, deadly creature, but it was large and slow - and that was its weakness. Its scales could withstand even the toughest of arrows and crossbow bolts, and magical attacks barely impacted the highly-resistant plating on its hide. Only a group of experienced, specially-trained unicorns were known to be able to even scratch a fully-grown dragon, and the immense magic required to pull off such a feat would leave said unicorns exhausted and spent for days on end afterwards.
>But the dragon's scales were no match for gunpowder and lead, and the sheer number and variety of munitions thrown at it was absolutely devastating to the beast. The .50 caliber M2 rounds that shot through its hide stung like needles through its flesh, and the scales that were previously its main line of defense were no match for the armor-piercing rounds designed to punch an inch through steel. Even worse were the rockets that the giant dragon was too slow to dodge. Millennia after millennia of torching villages had taken the need for agility and speed away, and the enormous red dragon was a clear, unmissable target against the blues and whites of the morning sky. The rockets, both guided and unguided, slammed into its body, sending scorching-hot copper deep into its flesh and bone.
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>>30607845

>The dragon shrieked and roared in fury as it flew towards its assailants, steaming crimson blood dripping onto the grass and leaves below. Noah's bursts became longer and longer as it closed in, the gigantic beast unhindered by the volley of metal being hurled towards it. Despite all they had done to put the giant monster down, it was still hurtling towards them at a steady pace. The roars of the dragon became louder and louder, and Noah swore that he could smell charred meat as it closed in.
>"Back up! Back up!"
>Noah's head almost slammed into the gun as the humvee suddenly lurched backwards, its driver frantically backing up away from the dragon. The barrel of the machine gun veered to the side, sending a stray burst of bullets into the dragon's wing. A deep, ugly shriek burst out from its jaws, the pain sending it further and further into a fit of rage as it dove towards the sandbags.
>Time seemed to slow down as something in the dragon's throat began to glow, causing the air around it to bend and warp. Noah watched as the dragon's mouth split wide open, bending as far as it could go before it let out an enormous jet of flame and fire at the people to his left. Most of them managed to dive away from the enormous being's thin, concentrated beam, but a few unlucky victims were caught in the stream of fire. Noah didn't focus on those lost souls as he continued to fire at the dragon, watching it cut a burning swath through the rest of camp and swoop back up for another attack. Even from fifteen meters away, he could feel the intense heat of its flames on his face as it turned around, ready for another attack. The missiles had mostly stopped as their operators ran out of munitions, and the dragon, though visibly hurt, was still airborne and ready for battle. Just as it began to dive towards Noah for a second attack, his gun suddenly stopped firing with a dry click as the spent casings and linkages stopped spilling out of the machine gun.
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>>30607852

>"Jammed," he cursed to himself as he opened the top cover and stared at the gun. "Hey," he called to the driver, "the gun's jammed!"
>The driver didn't respond. Noah bent down and yelled again. "The gun's-"
>"Get out! Right now!" the driver shouted back as he opened the door. Noah quickly pulled his head back up - and frantically began to lift himself out of the turret as the dragon closed in on the humvee, its jaws opening in preparation. He felt the intense, painful heat of the dragon's fire on his back as he jumped off the roof, the grass doing nothing to pad his fall as the armored car's diesel tank exploded behind him. A sudden, sharp sting ran up his legs, shrapnel from the exploding humvee digging into his calves and thighs. Noah's vision blurred as he tried and tried to stand up, each movement causing his legs to burn in agony.
>His bottom half essentially useless, Noah dragged himself across the damp grass in a desperate attempt to escape the heat of the burning vehicle. He almost didn't notice as his arm bumped into something hard and plastic lying on the ground next to him, its purpose known to him only by intuition. Noah pulled the solid, hefty looking weapon towards him, his hand slipping around the grip automatically as he stared at the LCD screen mounted on the side. In a daze, he hefted the gun onto his shoulder and aimed it at the dragon as a series of diamonds and circles followed the beast's torso, causing it to beep rapidly until the beeps merged into one, long tone. Noah, in his dazed and confused state, knew that meant something good, and instinct guided his actions as his index finger seemed to move by itself.
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>>30607861

>A series of high-power electromagnets inside the fifty-four inch LM-PEAAR railgun activated as Noah wearily pulled the trigger, sending its five-millimeter payload hurtling towards its target at immense speeds. Whoever had loaded the gun didn't properly calibrate it, and the thin metal dart moved through the air at Mach 10 - far faster than it was designed to fly. The sheer recoil of the railgun sent it kicking backwards much harder than anything Noah had felt, throwing the targeting screen smack dab into his face with the strength of a horse's kick. However, the projectile's fins weren't designed to withstand such high velocities, and the dart began to wobble mid-air until it spun towards its target like a throwing knife.
>The Lockheed-Martin Personnel-Equipped Anti-Armor Railgun was designed to be capable of firing many different projectiles, but the one it was planned to fire the most was the Type 1-11 5x240mm finned flechette. It was designed to penetrate through feet of armor and disable vital systems such as engines and electronics equipment, where it would cause the most damage. Its dense mass and high speed, combined with its tiny impact area, would be unstoppable by anything short of a mountain. However, it was not designed to be shot at maximum force through a 500-kiloGauss railgun, and it was spinning at breakneck speed just a tenth of the way between the gun and the dragon. Wherever the dart would hit, it would cut an enormous slit rather than a tiny pinprick through the dragon, like a knife through Jello.
>That was the first reason he was lucky.
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>>30607869

>The second reason was that the ten-inch, depleted uranium-tungsten alloy flechette cut a straight path through the dragon's right wing joint, almost severing it completely as it continued past the joint and through its back. Its four thin, sharp fins shattered off as the dart hit the hard, resilient spine, slicing through the rest of its body like razor blades and coming to a stop just before they broke through the other side. However, the rod continued freely through the spine, fracturing the top half and slicing open a deep, wide trench down its back in a diagonal slash before spinning off into the sky.
>Another roar pierced the sounds of battle and fire, this one much louder than before. It was far different from the dragon's previous battle cry; this was a shriek of distress, of pain and agony. The dragon's right wing was completely disabled, and it began to drift right as it panickedly flapped its left wing as fast as it could. With one of its wings crippled, the enormous beast quickly fell towards the ground, its right side spewing blood onto the tents below. A deep, bass thud shook the ground as the dragon smashed into the western side of camp, throwing up a cloud of dirt and debris where its impact crushed the tents below.
>Noah, his ears still ringing from the supersonic register of the railgun, looked up towards the sky in search of the dragon. The skies were clear and free of monsters, and he sighed in relief. His injuries suddenly hit him like a sack full of potatoes, and he had a sudden urge to close his eyes and fall asleep. Just before he passed out, however, he saw the faintest trails of a rainbow halo, dissipating into the air without a trace.
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>>30607878

>The remaining defenders, exhausted and spent, slowly meandered their way over to the defeated dragon, its wounds already sealing themselves off. It would take many months for it to recover, though, and it simply lay there in surrender as its eyes wondered what fate had in mind for the dragon. A slow trickle of personnel began to stream through the Portgate, fire extinguishers and first aid kits in hand as they rushed to deal with the aftermath of the carnage. The dragon had burnt one section of camp and smashed the other, and its fiery breath had grievously injured dozens of people in its assault on the outpost.
>Somewhere above the treeline, an observer watched the figures below as they moved to put out fires and aid the wounded. Unbeknownst to those it watched, it looked over the carnage that the dragon had wreaked, and the wounds it had received for its efforts. It stared at the shimmering, blue hole in time and space in the center of the encampment one last time before turning around, its wings silently flapping through the cold, autumn sky.

Well, things are finally happening. I hope I didn't mess up the physics too much, especially since I have know idea how electromagnets work. As always, gimme your thoughts on this chapter, be they good or bad. Every little bit of advice helps!
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>>30607910
i want more
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>>30607910
>[Gate - Thus the JSDF Fought There! intensifies]
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>>30608287
Hehehe
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>>30608287
Yeah but Itami and the others had an easier time of it than in here
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>>30607910
It good, I like.
I'm still wondering why discord would give us such an unnecessary trump card while we already have multiple quite impressive trump cards like tanks.

Also that gun tho. Thats like world war type weaponry, no company would ever bother developing one since no-one will ever need to use it. I'm not saying it's impossible, just unlikely.
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>>30607910
Well this will certainly incentivize them to bring in all their heavier equipment.
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>>30611547
it should also get them to look that railgun more closely if it's doing that kind of damage
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>>30607910
Kind of disappointed they had to use one of discord's weapons. Other than that I enjoyed this chapter
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>>30610902
>>30614453
Discord's weapons? I don't think I wrote anything that would give that impression, it's just one of the experimental railguns they received. And the railgun is a prototype, so there would be some miscalibrations and what not - they just received a bunch of new toys, and they're not very familiar with them.
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>>30614960
Mysterious man with an aura of something not quite right.
Knows more than he probably should.
Just appears in a secure facility with a suitcase full of weapons
No security watching over the man with a literal suitcase full of weapons
Has an unscheduled meeting with the head of Project Eden.

This is so suspicious people are going to jump to conclusions on who/what Baker really is and Discord is a suspicious all powerful entity that could possibly be it so he becomes suspect #1.
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>>30615601
That evidence is a tad circumstantial. He could be something like the G Man from Half Life for all we know
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>>30616421
Except G-Man doesn't exist in the mlp universe, discord does. Earth has so far been portrayed as just Earth+extra dimensional portal, there is no hint of a G-Man existing. Occam's razor tells us that discord is THE most likely suspect.
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>>30617099
The problem with it being Discord is motive. This story takes place after season 4 so why would he help the humans
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>>30617664
Not to mention the fact he can only interevene in what he is aware of and it is a known fact he isn't all-knowing or all-seeing.

Which means he would have had to have noticed or interacted with the human's arrival, which although not impossible, seems like something that would have been remarked about.
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>>30617877
There's just a few too many holes to conclusively say it's Discord for now
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>>30618590
Yeah.
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>>30618590
Still that leaves open the mystery on who/what else John Baker could be
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>>30619198
What are the odds that magic isn't involved and this is just a more run of the mill conspiracy?
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>>30621618
He probably wouldn't have been described as being off
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>>30620427
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>>30623768
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>>30624915
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>>30622563
Plus you think someone would have told the head of secret project about a conspiracy involving him.
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>>30626011
Could be a need to know basis and he doesn't need to where the weapons really came from
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>>30602643
Just curious but when's the earliest we can expect an update?
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Hey guys, pre or post ascension Twiggles?
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>>30631069
Pre
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>>30631069
I'm leaning towards pre-ascension
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>>30631069
Post if you need an op af twiggles, pre for everything else
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>>30631069
What >>30631706 said
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more Scotty when
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>>30634672
I need more scotty in my life
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It's harder thinking up a name for myself than i thought. I dont want to sound edgy, but i dont want some cheap meme name either.
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>TFW nobody even notices you're gone.

Some of you have been with me for over a year, so I feel I owe an explanation. No, this is not me quitting. I'm just saying sorry for being late again. Without going into too much detail I'm a lazy fuckwad who ran out of energy. Should be up on Wednesday PST, then I should return to my normal schedule with any luck.
Thanks for your patience.
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>>30635477
It's only been 12 days since your last update. 14 days for an update is not that unusual for you
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>>30635477
I-I m noticing your dubs, that makes up for it right? Right?

>>30635599
Lemme check yours too while Im at it
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>>30635477
Looking forward to Wednesday
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>>30635477
TBQH I just want more, I don't care how long it takes. The period between updates is already long enough so that the difference between 2 weeks and 4 weeks is negligible since I've already forgotten how long it has been since the last update. As long as there's an update within 2-3 months it doesn't really matter to me. This applies to portgate to BTW.
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>>30637289
You could always ctrl+f his name to find his last update >>30551057 and then look at the date posted
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>>30637409
My point was that I don't really care how long ago the last update was.
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>>30635477
>lazy
>ran out of energy
There is a major distinction there.
Lazy means you have the ability, but choose not to to do something else.
Out of energyeans you put yourself past your limit or made it so you are unable to do so.
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>>30635477
>>30638234
Well put, besides it's not like we're going to fault you for taking a break for a few days
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>>30638234
Being lazy can mean you are out of practice, though. Meaning you run out of energy quickly.
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>>30639134
True but personally it sounded like he just didn't work on it
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>>30635477
>Low energy.

Is- is WiK secretly Jeb! Bush?
Is Red Shift his way of red pilling us on the deep state because he's mad they didn't let him in?
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>>30640216
It's all so clear now. How did we not see it?
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>>30641051
>>30640216
He is truly a master of subterfuge
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>>30640216
Yeah, but it's the other red pill, comrade Jen and all.
"Hell yeah I'd kill baby Hitler"
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>>30642215
comrade Jen?
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>>30643298
Comrade Jeb!
Please riot
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>>30643500
Ah a simple typo that turned Jeb into a woman
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>>30635477
nobody expects you to update regularly
just update whenever you finish a chapter
it can be 1 minute to 1 month, nobody will whip you for being late
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>>30625626
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>>30644766
ew now i'm thinking of a crossdressing jeb bush
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>>30645446
>it can be 1 minute to 1 month,
I don't know why exactly but the image of WiK writing an entire chapter within one minute of posting a chapter amuses me
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>>30646074
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>>30647291
>1 minute to 1 month
I've seen things that no one would believe
(example: swf, if he was not on his drugs/on his drugs/in the mood/etc he spit out green faster than anyone could read)
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>>30640216
ThBis is jIust silly. IG haBve no idea where you people get thResOe ideas. The deep state definitely isn't puDtting aliens in your vaccines, and you definitely shouldn't bIe practicDing with firearms a9t all times. Don't go to a shooting range and ju1st put a1s many rounds down range as possible.
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>>30635599
Yeah, I was shooting for Sunday though.

>>30636327
No. But the derp hoers makes it all okay.

>>30638234
It's a combination of both I suppose. Took on too many responsibilities in reality (stay a NEET, kids!) and couldn't bring myself to spend what little time I had left on writing. I probably could have gotten it out if I'd done literally nothing but work and write last week. Make of that what you will.

>>30645446
I think there are a fair amount of people that expect me to update regularly. Though the schedule has changed a couple times, I have kept to one schedule or another for about a year and a half now.

Anyway, this thread is kill. If I post it'll go over the bump limit, so you're getting a standalone paste for now. https://pastebin.com/ZL27bynU
I'll dump here next thread.
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>>30649323
Come to the dark side, we have plenty of time and autism

Protip: dont open the spoiler
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to the next thread!
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>>30650988
let me try one more time!
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>>30651394
cmon almost there!
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>>30651586
bang
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