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PENCILS WILL MAKE IDW GREAT AGAIN

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PENCILS WILL MAKE IDW GREAT AGAIN
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I gotta have me my docks and butts.
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>>30392395

At this point, it has come to fruition.

The unification of IDW and 4Chan. Idiocy meets autism.
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>>30392395
Imagine how fucking upset Jay Fosgitt is that there's this new guy competing for issues.
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>>30392395
>Supporting a furfag drawing for IDW
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>>30392395
They even know That he draw R18 poneys??
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>>30392408
>>30392407
Jay is nothing compared to the excessive sweating and heavy breathing Illustrious Q is having right now
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>>30392408
>being this butthurt over an actually talented artist accomplishing something you will never be able to reach
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>>30392412

This is the same company that hired a guy who does DC fetish art regularly to be their first comic artist.

They don't care. If anything, it gives them something else to potentially drive down the numbers.
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>>30392395
Good for him.
I hope the pressure for deadlines doesnt get to him.
>A comic or few
That sounds like a mini story, either way still coold
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>>30392405
A perfect storm
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>>30392395
>they're really so fucking desperate that they finally have to open the door to better talent

I wouldn't be surprised if this were true
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>>30392395
Fuckin proud of that dude.
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>>30392475
I'd definitely go see him at an IDW panel and invite him a beer
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>>30392421
Why do you think Equestria Daily still hasn't made an anouncement about this?
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>>30392435
>DC fetish art
Andy Price also did pornographic art displaying genitalia and characters having sex.
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I don't care much for Bencils but if you want to remove others like Fosgitt I recommend buying Bencils comics in force, when the numbers make the other comic makers look bad, Hasbro might have some...employment considerations.
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>>30392591
Every artist has done porn.
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>>30392407
fosgitt is just the dobson of the mlpverse
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Can't wait for Penicillin to make Nyx canon!
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>>30392610
Fosgitt is willing to suck more dick than Dobson. That's the only difference and why the latter doesn't have steady work like Fosgitt does.
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>>30392597
But it's only bad when Pencils does it, according to Equestria Daily and Derpibooru's army or IDWanker tards.
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are the comics canon now or something? i hear anons talking about it but i can't find anything
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>>30392684
They will say and do anything to get people to buy it.

Hell. Now I may just buy a book or two of pencils work just to keep him in a job for a while.(even if it is probably soul crushing to work for them)
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>>30392611
This is probabily the best shot the little shit has of being canon
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>>30392616
The only problem is that he did Human X Pone.
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>>30392395
Well thank god for good news for a change.
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>>30392408
>complains about furfag
>posts anthro
W O W
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He's making a mistake. He won't bring it up, they'll just drag him down, like creatures in an abyss.

>>30392421
>>30392585
Okay, maybe there is one positive. We need to pry out how badly that fat fuck is suffering from EQD's mods.
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>>30392395
>PENCILS WILL MAKE IDW GREAT AGAIN
No he won't because he isn't writing, which is a good thing because he can't write for shit. So nothing really changes amirite? Eh? Eh?

Seriously, pencils can't write. That the art looks good isn't going to save the comics. Would the Fosgit illustrated comics be better if they were illustrated by someone else? Or is "deer terrorists just made some mistakes" any better for its illustrations? Or any of the pop-culture reference tour-de-force that is the MLP comics?
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>>30392931
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>>30392969
This. People put him on a pedestal so much even when his writing is isn't really intriguing and his art mediocre. Many people have pointed out his flaws yet he still continues to put a blind eye on those.

Hell, light262 puts more effort in his comics than Pencils do imo. Bring in people like Hussii, Assasin Monkey, Holivi, or Yakovlev-vad, then we'll talk.

http://light262.deviantart.com
http://holivi.deviantart.com
http://assasinmonkey.deviantart.com
http://yakovlev-vad.deviantart.com
http://huussii.deviantart.com
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>Seriously, pencils can't write.
Neither can you and you prove it by repeating this opinion. Otherwise it was quite informative and I do give you credit for being right about the IDW end product, the comic, can't be made great by a single person.

It's all about teamwork. Director keeps the every magazine story in line with the theme. Writers make something interesting to read. One artist makes line-art while another may color. Editing and proofreading to polish off mistakes.

As for Pencils ability to write stories it's all about taste and obviously not yours. Neither are current S7 writers to my taste. Worse than Pencil: Fluttershy spending a whole episode failing to express herself and solves it by being a rude jerk.
Yay, taste is different; just check the Harlequin book series. Those actually sell, but our taste does not.
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>>30393007
All this does is open the door for people like them.
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>>30393007
You do realize their art style doesn't conformt to the style chosen by IDW?

You also realize all you do is marketing their Patreon accounts.
Why not repost their series here if they're so good?
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>>30392395
Pencil's was a depressed Finn that started making pony comics as a distraction.

Now he works for IDW and makes the official MLP comics.

What is your excuse, /mlp/?
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>>30393007
Four of those artists are great at illustrations but have never shown they have what it takes to do comics. The other spends days or even weeks on a single page. It's not a matter of drawing or painting - it's doing that at light-speed.
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>>30392405
>IDW and 4chan merge
>literal Helios ending
>we have grown yet there is still much to be done
>many who live in darkness who must be shown the horsepussy
>for it is the dawning of a new day
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>>30392395
Please stop treating Pencils and 4chan as one in the same. He's not your trophy.
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>>30393157
hes 4chan, born and raised. self admittedly been here for years before he started his comic.

/mlp/ isnt one person, but pencils is a horsefucker. theres no arguing it.
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>>30393162
Yet you treat it as if it's something to brag about. Again, he's not your trophy.
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>>30393174
Stop having autism. It's pretty nice to have one of us drawing pones.
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>>30393181
Take your own advice. Bronies like Andy Price got in IDW before Pencils did, yet you never saw threads upon threads of autism being spilled everywhere. Wait till Pencils draw his first comic, then we'll talk. Try again next time.
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>>30393174
>someone in your group succeeds at something
>raise up a glass for them
>FUCK OFF ITS NOT YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENT
do you know youre an autist with personal issues of inadequacy?
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>>30392395
>"likely"
>2018
Don't celebrate too early now.
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>>30393222
>trips
o-okay anon...
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>>30392395
I hope his writer isnt going with him.
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>>30392395
I dont want to get too excited yet, but im pretty happy.

>this thread
some people are just incapable of being happy for someone else it seems
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>>30392395
His art is shit tho.
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>>30393273
No u
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>>30393273
Why's everything he did before this shitty cover looks so much better?
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>>30392408
You have to admit, in terms of visual quality, furries do the best.
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I was never really interested in his comics, however I will say that I really do like his art a lot, and I envy how much care/time he is able to put into making those great pictures in large quantities (compared to myself).
>inb4 ">implying he puts time and care"

It's always nice to see someone get recognized for their talents. I'll be sure to buy a comic if he is the guy that comes out with it. I don't even follow his stuff but I still feel glad for him. Feels good anons.
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>>30393007
>>30392969
>pencil cant write
well he doersnt write in the first place, he has a writer for his comic.
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>>30393174
If you've ever played on a high school sports team, you always feel pride/happiness if one of your senior-year teammates gets recruited to a D1/D2 college. Not because you are riding in that person's accomplishments, but because somebody in your collective was able to demonstrate greatness as they in a way represent where they came from. It's not you riding off their accomplishments, its just being proud of that person and the collective you share.

It's wasn't unnatural for Americans to feel pride/joy for all of the USA when it was the college students that beat the feared Soviet hockey team in the Miracle on Ice.

It's not unnatural to feel pride/joy if somebody in your family gets accepted into an Ivy League college, if you're not the one who made it into the college.
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>>30392969

>Would the Fosgit illustrated comics be better if they were illustrated by someone else?

Yeah, specially the Gilda/Rarity Friend forever comic or the GoH issues
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>>30392395
Is this implying that the guy who drew the "anon in equestria is a super hulk that will explode in magic" story will be drawing official comics for hasbro?
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>>30392405
BEST
TIMELINE
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>>30394287
Yes

It will be glorious
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>>30394767
Wow thats genuinely awesome.
I'll have to find some way of getting physical copies when that happens
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>>30392395
>pencils will make retarded fanfics of Whitley into comics
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> All this butthurt over Pncils working for IDW

This is awesome. This is GREAT. All of these pretentious assholes suffering and raging over this and amusing everyone with their pathetic attempts to shit on Pencils only makes it even better than before.

Derpibooru is super salty over this, there are a few identified members who were (are?) the ones behind of the constant shitting on Pencils's comic threads and Equestria Daily refused to feature his comic as much as it was possible, but now all of them burn with rage over the solid, undeniable FACT that a man they hated so much achieved something they will never do on their entire lives.

Stay mad, stay salty, stay autistic and stay being asperlords, guys. There's nothing you can do to stop this and your wimpy attempts to shitpost only makes your tears taste saltier and saltier. ;)
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>>30392407
What a faggot and a hack. That whisk cutie mark was an obvious photoshop. I stopped buying the comics because of this constant bullshittery.
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>>30394939

This is the first step dude.

First a fandom artist, then a writer and the one fucking autistic writer that will take the power and ruin the comic forever
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>>30394970

>Derpibooru is super salty over this

Are this actually true?

https://derpibooru.org/1467404
https://derpibooru.org/pony/idw-comics-meta-discussion/127

No one complain about pencil working for IDW.

The real butthurt come when you complain about Fosgitt artstyle.

Now we only need to wait EQD reaction when the article appear.
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>>30395021
>Now we only need to wait EQD reaction when the article appear.
They already know but they are refusing to say anything out of envy and rage.

The Illustrious Q is so fucking mad, and I mean really, REALLY mad, that's all I can say without blowing my cover.
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>>30394970
Pencils pls
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>>30392977
looks like this fella got a cromosome too many
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>>30395045
Her comes our first derpibooru user.
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>>30395089
Go back to derpibooru
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>>30394994
The comics weren't already ruined before?
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>>30395042
Are they really that Ass-Blasted and jealous that they won't even congratulate him?
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>>30395150
Horse News already made an article to congratulate him, EqD still refuses to acknowdeledge Pencils as an official IDW artist.

Considering how the one who writes the comic articles is always The Illustrious Q and considering he hates 4chan to death with all of his might (has been since IDW's board days) it's pretty obvious who's behind of Pencils's veto from EqD.

Which only makes it funnier and funnier.
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>>30395185
Its probably more that they don't actually have solid confirmation from him that he's working on it
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>>30395224
HAHAHA nice try, faggot.

Pencils himself has confirmed he got a cover and will get entire stories during 2018 to draw.
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>>30392969

Pencils doesn't have to write.

And Fosgitt's comics would have been better even if they spontaneously combusted before ever being seen by the eyes of man.

He literally makes a story worse by drawing it.

Pencils, on the other hand actually is willing to work with a writer to make the story look proper. And no fucking "last minute" copypasta panels either.
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>>30394987
If he truly didn't just put clipart in for cutie marks, and just drew them all at once and plopped them in, why were the CMC's marks not even in perspective? Why did Starlight have Twilight's cutie mark?

The answer is that he uses clipart for them, just like he steals fan designs. He's an absolute hack who will never improve his art.

>>30395289
I knew about the cover, but all Pencils said was "likely" and we won't know until August for sure.

>>30395291
It would be actually better for everyone involved if Fosgitt's MLP comics didn't exist at all. The stories are nothing of value even if someone else had drawn them, and he actually makes them far worse.
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>>30392611
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>>30392395
If he's legitimately making comics then I may start buying them. I've always wanted to, but the art style I've been seeing haven't been good. Plus, the only comics I do have is a couple of mini ones, and the debut comics. (although the art style isn't that bad in those)
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>>30395118

They're still making them.

It'd take an autistic singularity of suck to truly either obliterate the series beyond all hope or raise it to a level that gives Curnow a coronary and forces IDW to appoint another (possibly better) editor.
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>>30395042
Everyone know it's you Tupin
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>>30395291
>we get our own non-normie, horsefucker, bro-tier Andy Price as an official IDW artist

what a time to be alive
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>>30395360

You'll get tired of winning, but not yet.
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>people want Pencils to WRITE
>his Anon comic is a huge storyline mess
>write
Even Whitley know how to handle the beggining and the middle part of the story. Pencils lost himself after 10 pages.
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>>30395352
>They're still making them.
Wouldn't that logic mean The Simpsons isn't ruined?
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>>30395384
hes not writing, hes arting. if they pair him up with a writer thats worth a shit it could be one of the best comics IDW as put out for pones.
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>>30395360
Andy Price is a butthurt faggot who white knights Cooks and Fostgitts retardness. Fuck him.
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>>30395391
the simpsons went from a conservative leaning show making fun of life in general to a liberal leaning show making fun of conservatives.

such is the fate of all shows.
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>>30395377
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>>30395392
Well Whitley and Rice are pretty everything they got that produce and content. Anderson and Zahler are Berrow tier of boring or shit(when it comes to her episodes)
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>>30395384
that was before he got a writer, you autists

calm your lard-leaking tits
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>>30395408
Conservatism was always a mistake. And MLP was always a liberal show anyway.
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>>30395432
the point is when conservatives are in charge, they make fun of everything.
when liberals are in charge, they make fun of conservatives.
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>>30395354
Hello, Hawk!
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>>30395452
Conservatives aren't as funny.
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>>30395463
>liberals are known for their sense of humor
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>>30395329
>but the art style I've been seeing haven't been good
Then why would you buy one from pencils? :^)
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>>30395391

It's still getting solid enough ratings and hasn't been canceled, so yeah. It isn't ruined. The audience has changed, though.
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>>30393119
This.
People that don't understand this kind of shit obviously never created content in their fucking lives.
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>>30395463
Way to show what the guy meant Anon.
You totally got the point across!
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>>30395408
>liberal leaning show making fun of conservatives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8M2tg2RkIQ
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>>30392395
I honestly don't understand the anger over this? As a drawfag myself I'm really happy for him.
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>>30395756
what the fuck
why did I stop watching that shit hahahah
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>>30395756
SJW is to liberal as westboro is to conservative. luckily the simpsons hasnt been taken over by the SJW crowd yet. have another one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64PKoAiWhjE
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>>30395789
>>30395800
>>30395756
Liberals are the ones who make fun of everyone, especially themselves. Conservatives demand fake unity and falling in line, and see poking fun at themselves as proof of weakness.
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>>30395021
Is that the actual drawing? I was under the impression they'd fucked up and his cover was coming next month?
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>>30395812
i think youre mistaking 1950s conservatives with modern conservatives. somehow the tides shifted and now the liberals demand no one does anything offensive while the conservatives try to offend everyone.
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>>30395812
Yeah, no, you're wrong Anon
Rather, liberalism has changed a lot these past 20 years, and you can't call a 90's liberal a 'liberal' anymore.
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>>30395828
and the 'old liberals' are the ones that poked fun of everyone, but I'm sure neo liberals would call them conservatives now.*
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>>30395360
>not John Joseco
>not Jan
kek
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>>30395823
>modern conservatrives
>funny
I seen Heathcliff comics funnier that their "humor"
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>>30395860
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Oh boy, I love when murrkans fling shit at each other over politics.
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>>30395860
>using political cartoons
i was talking about cartoon shows. it happened to family guy, it happened to the simpsons, it seems to happen to all of them eventually.
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>>30395836
>>30395828
>>30395823
Even fucking modern SNL, which is written by the most far left people you will see, regularly makes fun of liberals.

Part of the reason that the "only liberals can do comedy" meme exists is because conservatives rarely make fun of themselves or use humor to critique part of their political movement, liberals do it constantly.
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>>30396932
make me
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>Furcils is gonna make comics
Congrats you stupid pieces of shit, you made your own harvey dent.
I wonder when he will pull the two face thing on you.
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>30397003
(you)
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>>30396940
C'mon guys he isn't used to being out of his hugbox, lets not bully him.
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>>30393096
>depressed Finn
Why are you repeating yourself?
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>>30392395

You can't make something great again if it was never great to begin with.
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>>30396932
Wait, this isn't /pol/?
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>Derpibooru raids this thread with political crap to sabotage Pencils

Never change, eh? God, just let it go, guys.
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>>30398383
But being a shithead is all I have left!
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>>30398383
>WAAAAHHHH DON'T HATE ON OUR STUPID FAGGOT DRAWFAG
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>>30398640
> WAAAHHHH BUT 4CHAN IS EVIL SO PENCILS CANT WORK FOR IDW!

Maybe if you obese fags did something more productive with your lives instead of spending 20 hours a day hooked to the internet you wouldn't feel so triggered by this.
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>>30392405
Damn meme magic.

We gotta start regulating this crap before everything else starts flipping on it's head.
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>>30398798
I hate furcils because he is going to reach the top and give you all the finger
I have seen it happen, but be stupid and enjoy it while it lasts.
He is a scumbag.
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>>30392407
I like Jay's art style, his ponies are huggable
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>>30398809
Yes, yes, and we'll regret Trump and we'll regret Twilicorn and we'll regret EQG and the movie and blablabla
off my board
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>>30398809
>enjoy it while it lasts.
I will, thank you very much.

Meanwhile you will remain mad, salty and butthurt. :)
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>>30398836
This.
People bitch and moan about his style but it's nice.
Fosgit is a faggot because he is a lazy shit who copy/pastes balls of animals and uses whisks from clipart. Also his celestia looks like shit god dam.
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>>30395789
>why did I stop watching that shit
because it was shit from season 22 to 27, they recently realized just talking about the iphone and bashing conservatives isnt working and they tried going back to old Simpsons in season 28..
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>>30392395
He will
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>>30392405
fucking nice
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>>30398809
I'm not laughing at this because I like pencils. I'm laughing at this because of the butthurt generated by derpi and EQD
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As a drawfag, I'm someone who thought Pencils was a good artist yet never really cared for his content. Why are people supposed to be mad? I don't really see the problem with this. I think it's cool that someone got recognized for their talents.
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>>30402277
>Why are people supposed to be mad?

Posts like these >>30394970 and the ones who reply to them are the whole shitfest around here. It's about salt picking and "LOL U MAD" stuff
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>>30402304
Ironically, you seem very mad.

I suppose all of Derpibooru's recent Mod drama was also generated by Pencils getting to work for IDW?

Obese losers like the Frowning Pony fucking loathe this place so his recent power trip and following rant against 4chan and /mlp/ seems to be his personal way to deal with a 4channer achieving something he never will on his entire lifetime.
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>>30392412
>Implying The IDW comics aren't eventually going to become a pony porno mag
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>>30402277
Idc one iota what he does, I liked his drawings when he started (no interest in it anymore, but I still like the art), but >>30402304 said it perfectly. The people just sucking him off left and right are as bad as the people that shit on him for no reason. Frankly I think we're being trolled on both sides. People who rag on him just to do it, and people that praise him just to upset people. It does nothing to help him or get people to like him, but then again it doesn't hurt him either because none of it matters
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>>30404097
Not trying to say I'm a drawfag worth much, but one time there was a couple anons creating drama about me in a thread about a year ago. It just made my art synonymous with drama and it really just kind of ruined my experience drawing on here for a while. I hope he handles it much better than I did, because it really sucked to have that association. I just wanted to make people happy with art, and I'm sure that's what he wants to do as well.
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>>30404105
I don't believe your intentions were bad, even knowing nothing about you, and I don't believe Pencils intentions were ever to be an attention whore. Problem is once someone, especially around here, does anything worthy of attention, you get those assholes that don't know when to shut up about it and become annoying. Then, because this place (at one point anyway) is about avoiding hug-boxing and circle-jerking, when you get people that do just that, the ire turns towards the person that started it all.

It sucks, but it comes with the territory
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>>30392395
Fuckin' Pencils. I love this man.
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>>30392395
my body is ready
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>>30404335
No.
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>>30402557
>Derpibooru's recent Mod drama
what happened?
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>>30392931
>>30392421
>>30392585
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/06/exclusive-my-little-pony-friendship-is_20.html

Found a announcement at the bottom of the reveal post. Apparantly EQD is waiting till issue 59 is revealed.
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>>30407828
There's no need for them to wait till issue 59 announce this. It's a cover for issue 58.
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>>30407831
It's a cover for issue 59 mistakenly applied to issue 58.
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>>30397138
as you post from your feminist safe space
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>>30392401
Ill actually start reading them again if he includes these
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>>30393126
This reference put a smile on my face.

Let me clarify something though, nothing is confirmed as of yet. In August, at the end of it the latest, I will know exactly what Bobby has for me, until then I remain tentatively optimistic.

In the meanwhile I will continue on APA and save up some cash put towards ensuring I will never be delayed by equipment malfunctions when working on official pony comics. >>30393174
I agree, I'm just one artfag, I can't stand for all or claim to represent them, however all my fans which I gained by some miracle while drawing a dumb comic with a silly premise, can at least claim that their feedback and support did go towards this end, if it not were for their continued criticism and feedback my art would not have advanced as much as it did when working on this comic.
>>30393222
qft
>>30395045
Just saw this thread now.
>>30395150
I'd prefer if they stayed their congratulations until I have a book out frankly.
>>30398809
Tears this delicious belong in a vintage bottle.
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>>30409319
based
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>>30409319
Good luck.
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>>30409357
GTFO Weeb shit you degenerate trash.
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>>30409380
Can you make me?
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>>30409319
I'm happy you get to do something like this m8.
And if somehow things turn to shit, know that we'll always be here.
There'll always be the 'REEE FURCILS' too, mind you, but like someone else said in this thread, it comes with the territory.
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>>30394970

k
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>>30409319
No offense but the problem I see with your fans is the fact that they give you too much credit and demand so much. Brony named Andy Price got in to IDW and EQD never made celebratory mentions about it. Yet your fans claim EQD is butthurt because they didn't mention you in the IDW post? Bullshit.
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>>30409873
Aye, But the hyperbolic shitposting goes both ways really. I am not my fans and I don't wish to claim any power over them, as I've repeatedly stated. I think the highest display of ego one could show is thinking he has sway over the behavior of people who like his work. And then trying to enforce this. So I let people talk. Im all my time I haven't told anyone to shut up and go away, or stop reading and complaining.

People think up things, they discuss them, make stupid claims and astute observations, and that's what 4chan is all about. A whole gradient spectrum from autism to amazing at a display, framed in anonymity.
Only our perception defines what we see as what in it.
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>>30397176
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>>30409319
>>30409968
You should leave them now, quit while you're ahead.

Otherwise it won't end well for you.
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>>30407831
>There's no need for them to wait till issue 59 announce this

They are jealous and angry, that's enough reason for them to hold back on the announcement as much as possible.
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>>30410590
They don't have to suck Pencil's dick, you know?
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>>30409319
Here, this is for (You), Pencils. You fucking deserve this congratulatory beer and many more.

You can keep the tall glass to drink your hater's tears, something tells me that soon you will be swimming on them.
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>>30410616
And people like you don't have to dedicate their lives (ha) to shit on someone else's parade and yet here you are, and tomorrow you will be here and next month too, because guys like you literally have nothing better to do.

So please, stay mad at a guy who actually went and did something with his life while yours is probably nothing but eat, sleep and internet every day without any change.
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>>30410574

>he's not doing better than expected and knows it

Drawing ponies for profit is hardly going to end badly for Pencils. He's a craftsman, not an artist mistaking themselves for a Hollywood star.
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>>30410690
Take your own advice. Go ahead and live a terrible outlook on the fandom by thinking EQD staff is planting a grudge on Pencils.

I honestly just think that you kids act like this because it brings out your inner rage or whatever. It's a form of release to hate on someone without repercussion after all. But hey, you'll grow up one day and turn back to this saying "Wow, I'm so immature." Better luck next time.
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>>30410782
I think i will do as I please no matter what a fucking loser parrotes back to me to feel like he's winning an internet argument, bro.

Stay mad, stay jealous, stay obese and stay online 24/7: that's your life and probably will stay like that until you die. :)

Meanwhile I will be using my job's wifi to trigger fags for shits and giggles because you guys are an endless source of fun.

And there's nothing you or an army of (Yous) can do to stop me. :)

Also, Pencils? You rule, brosky kosky.
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What if Pencils is given a comic to work on that focuses on the Pie family?
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>>30410828
We will know that at least the art will be good.
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