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Now that the initial hype died down, can someone explain the appeal of this episode? It was pretty average, but everyone thinks it's the best episode of the season.
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>>30193141
fuck off contrarian tryhard scum
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>>30193141
You literally just posted the appeal
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>>30193141
Glimmy.
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>>>/u/
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>>30193141
Bronies are autistic and have a short attention span and thus they like big shiny things that move fast. Basically the same reason Twilight's Kingdom is widely considered the best episode of the series.
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>>30193152
Why does this fandom like edge?
>>30193157
Glimmer was surprisingly good in this episode, but not incredible.
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>>30193141
Aside from making Glimmer look like an idiot (and the one fuck up with Celestia raising the moon), it was a good episode.
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>>30193141
I honestly don't like it. I wrote a pretty exhaustive autistic rant a few hours ago and I don't feel like writing the whole thing all over again but, in short, this episode essentially confirms that having Glimmer abusing her magic is supposed to be a good thing in-universe, because the map sent her to do exactly that. Every other character sent by the map fucks up, learns something, and solves the original problem, but Glimmer solves the original problem fucking up. That's her thing, that's what she'll always do, she'll never improve, and it's fucking bullshit.
It's not the worst episode of the show, but it's definitely my least favorite episode of the season so far.

Welp, I wrote another autistic rant, sorry.
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>>30193211
>(and the one fuck up with Celestia raising the moon)
This wasn't a fuck up. She was stating that as a fact, not as something new to her. I swear you brbnies nitpick the smallest things.
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>>30193178
>He doesn't remember how popular cupcakes was
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>>30193141
Emoitonal payoff to Celly & Luna's relationship. People been waitin' for that since S1.
Seriously I went in hype for the mad shitpost potential and came out genuinely heart-warmed. The feels were real. I can't rightly remember the last time we had an episode this ________comfy.
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>>30193141
>>30193325
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>>30193290
And you would know that how? Her wording doesn't lean towards stating a fact. I'm not nitpicking, it's a really
dumb mistake to make right outside calling Glimmer via the Cutie Map (people have to jump through hoops to justify that).
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>>30193268
>That's her thing, that's what she'll always do, she'll never improve, and it's fucking bullshit.
Guy who talked to you in the other thread (I think). I wouldn't go that far. We don't know the future until we get there, that's what makes it exciting. You could have said this exact same thing about any of the main cast back in S2, 3 etc. and yet her we are with them all so much further along.
tldr Pone will keep moving forward. Relax and enjoy the ride.
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>>30193337
>Her wording doesn't lean towards stating a fact.
Why not? It can be interpreted that way.
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>>30193141
I'm not sure myself. Much like you, I didn't find it that superb. In fact, I couldn't get myself past the initial premise; it felt like a good idea ruined by a subpar setup and Glimmer shoving her unwanted face in as >>30193268 said.
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>>30193211
>>30193290
>>30193337
They had their magical talents switched. The experience WAS new to Celestia, since she'd had to crowbar her sun-based magic into the role beforehand.
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>>30193372
I never looked at it that way. Guess I was wrong about that. Thanks man.
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>>30193141
>can someone explain the appeal of this episode?
It's a 'sisters' episode'. People have been waiting forever for a 'sisters' episode. Now if they can just do a 'sisters gaming' episode..
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>>30193394
Hasbro is agaisnt videogames, so never ever.
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>>30193141
The appeal was it had Celestia and Luna doing stuff that didnt involve them giving exposition or being worf'd to prove a point of how dire a situation is.

However, I agree with the other posters that there are gripes to be had about it. I for one, will continue to maintain that this should have been a Twilight episode. The fact that she IS biased means that this could have been a means of addressing that flaw of hers and "humanize" Celestia and Luna in her eyes.

Glimmer got practically nothing out of this, whereas this would have been a big fucking deal for Twilight if she could have worked through it.
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>>30193438
>falling for the bait
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>>30193463
>Implying hasbro won't do anything for the green bills
I mean they made the guardians of harmony shit for ADULTS
You can expect them to do anythingjust for the easy bucks
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>>30193141
>the princesses did things
>more things than ever in any episode
>ABLOO BRETTY AVERAGE DOE IMO U GUISE :DDDD
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>>30193472
I dont like the old princesses though.
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>>30193472
Whenever a dumb reee poster posts I imagine them actually Reeeing very softly to themselves like the faggots they are
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>>30193485
Whenever I get a (you), I realize my post made that person angry enough to reply
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>>30193346
Oh, don't get my wrong, I'm not saying that the episode ruined everything forever. All the implications here are just that, implications, and they won't be a problem in upcoming episodes unless they're confirmed. I'm just saying that I don't like the episode itself.
Portably it's mostly the disappointment speaking, an episode with the Royal Sisters, written by some of my favorite current writers, should have been a 10/10 episode, and it wasn't even close (for me).
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>>30193496
Are you sure you make everybody angry by having them type on their keyboard?
Most of the time you don't, but ok laugh all you want.
I sometimes pretend to be mad just to make faggots laugh, like you.
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>>30193496
DELET THIS
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>>30193525
Don't hurt yourself.
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>>30193301
I know this fandom likes edgy stuff, but why?
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>>30193570
the show itself is lacking in edge? i dunno
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>>30193388
Saw it in yesterday's continuity thread.
Never really got what Lauren saw in 4chan over everywhere else. Think I'm starting to.
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>>30193472
But Anon!
It had Glimmer.
So it's SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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>>30193570
MLP's one big ol' swerve. You go in expecting Teletubbie tier trollop and instead get writing an adult can take at face value. The show being far more mature that in appears it focal to its appeal. Edgy stuff is some fans continuing that train of thought unto its logical conclusion. And maybe a few illogical ones too. Literally "Let's keep going and see what happens".
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>>30193570
because we're a concentration of unadulterated autism and the first rule of autism is to abuse anything cute and cuddly and otherwise make it suffer in some way
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>>30193702
'member fluffe pones
i member
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>>30193635
I actually forget Glimmer was there for most of the episode, or at least she was outshone by the princesses so much that I couldn't care less
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>>30193712
Oh I like you.
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>>30193712
>>30193728
>>30193635
GLIMMY
GLIMMY
AND MORE
GLIMMY
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>>30193141
Pros:
+Luna eating whole pineapples and banana peels
+Celestia making pancakes and even changing the fruit on them to the fruit that Luna ate the morning before to entice her and overall showing a more motherly side to her
+Celestia and Luna's bickering (I know a lot of people saw it as stupid but as someone with an older, much more successful sibling I know that I'd still be bickering with him even if I had a few millenia under my belt so it made them seem more grounded to me)
+Luna freaking out and being legitimately upset that she might have hurt the school foals
+Celestia freaking out at having to do everything alone
+The overall implications of how hard these immortal and powerful princesses really have to work
+Twilight panicking reminded me of her earlier incarnations of when she was a lot more focused on perfection which I have missed
+Daybreaker (less her design, and more, the implications that come with her and some of the power we see her wield)

-Glimmer fucking up again and not learning anything
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>>30193738
Glim too!
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>>30193738
mane is wrong.
also im not attracted to that horse. which is strange for me.
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>>30193846
Mane is right, don't be a faggot.
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>>30193141
Celestia had the potential to be the next nightmare moon, we actually see more of the two sisters.
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>>30193760

> Celestia and Luna's bickering (I know a lot of people saw it as stupid but as someone with an older, much more successful sibling I know that I'd still be bickering with him even if I had a few millenia under my belt so it made them seem more grounded to me)
See, that was exactly the problem I felt myself running into with the episode. If they were just very old sisters, then I can totally see that - hell, I know sisters in their 80s who still bicker like teenagers.

But the thing is, the Alicorn Sisters are not "just old sisters". They're still living in the aftermath of a betrayal that saw one of them try to murder the other, but instead get imprisoned in the very object she found to be her destiny for an entire millennium - which odds are represents a huge fraction of their lifespan. Meanwhile, the surviving one had to live with what she'd done, see the memory of her beloved younger sister be tarnished and tarred, and manipulated ponies' lives to ensure they would be reunited. That's not the kind of thing you just get over and go back to casual bickering after a couple of years.

Adding on to that, having the frankly unreasonable idea that they had zero time together because of their alternating sleep schedules, and I just couldn't get into the concept of the episode. It felt like deliberately ignoring not one but two elephants in the room for the sake of setting up a "problem".
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>>30193855
"good" glimmer is supposed to have a different mane
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>>30193141
You could say the same of the whole show.
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>>30193869
That wasn't good and bad Glimmy, it was just Glimmy with her equal mark and without it.
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>>30193861
I feel like bickering with a sibling after reconnecting with them after such a long time would probably be good for them actually
Siblings "hate" is sort of a given and you sort of walk a razors edge with it, on the good side you can bicker and squabble all you like and you'll still be be inseparable best friends and more likely than not if you find your sibling getting into a fight the very next day after a heated argument you'll probably step in and wreck the other dude's shit
on the other end it can lead to a massive strain and then a snap and then just not bothering to acknowledge them anymore
I feel like Celestia and Luna probably went through this for their whole lives because siblings will always find something to argue over, with Luna's banishment it went the bad way, but now that she's back they're both back to bickering and when together and talking to the mane 6, away from the public eye they're very protective of each other and care about each other, so really I feel like in a strange way it shows that they've decided to let the sleeping dog lie and go back to being sisters rather than awkwardly hold a grudge
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>>30193760
>the princesses have emotions
>luna likes funny foods
How does this make it a good episode though?
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>>30194031
If we'd seen them go through that arc of walking on eggshells around each other, eventually fully reconciling, and then going back to that kind of casual sisterly bickering that'd have been cool. Hell, that kind of character development would've been my dream.

But we aren't shown that, and instead the episode presents this fighting as a very real and hefty division to the point they're barely talking to each other. We're seeing something that's 50% first act of that arc, 50% third act, and doesn't know which it should be.
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>>30194031
>Luna became nightmare moon because ponies didnt appreciate the night / her job.
>Get banished by Celestia.
>Roughly 1007 years later.
>Celestia doesnt appreciate Luna's job.
>Luna doesnt realise how much work goes into actually running a country.
>The only way the semi-sentient friendship map could think to fix this issue was by forcibly switching their cutie marks for a day.
I just realised, that's literally the only input glimmer had on the problem, she switched their cutie marks and they sorted out the problem themselves.
Holy fucking shit i didnt think i could get any madder at this episode but i just did, glimmer literally did nothing 'Friendship' related.
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>>30194456
She did point out that they're not very good at communicating, they never would have solved the problem otherwise.
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>>30193141
Because Celestia was in it a lot and she's always been my waifu this is why it's the best episode ever written period.
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>>30196404
Nothing better than the desperate Sunfags eating whatever Hasnobro shits on their plate.
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>>30196437
>gyehehehe xd hasjew holds ur waifu hostage so u have to like watever dey giv u lol ru mad
kill yourself, nigger
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>>30196450
It is the truth and it is fair that you are butthurt about it.
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>>30196437
Your just jealous because your waifu isn't a supreme goddess and will never be as powerful. Kek has willed Celestia to be best pone
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>>30196507
Kek and his followers will be destroyed for following Satan's false egyptian gods
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>>30196534
Pffft. Until then we will reign supreme. Long live the sun princess!
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>>30196507
Meanwhile, this is what Kek had to say about Poochie
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>>30196893
>30 posts in 3 minutes before the third major get
this is not kek's doing, this is no coincidence, it was timed, organized, and therefore not the work of a god of chaos.
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>>30196893
Fuck off AGA
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>>30197189
>AGA
Hi, GDF
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