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>Fresh Start Edition

So how's that pony game you're making coming along, anon? What's it made in?
Find any fun pony games recently anon? How good are they?
Got any ideas for a game, anon? Mind sharing them here for all to see?
Is that a game design document you've got there, anon? What's it all about?

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Free engines:
>GameMaker Studio
>(Great for making 2D games and prototypes)
https://www.yoyogames.com/gamemaker
>Unity
>(Great for making 3D games, not as good with 2D)
http://www.unity3d.com
>Construct 2
>(Good for making 2D games, with better web-based support than GameMaker)
https://www.scirra.com/construct2


Free to use resources (Note to self, make a pastebin if we get more suggestions for this):
>Desktop Pony sprites - Animated 2D pony sprites (non-commercial use only)
http://desktop-pony-team.deviantart.com/
>MLP Sound effects - An archive of sounds ripped from the show.
http://ukofequestria.co.uk/threads/mlp-fim-soundeffects-pack.5822/
>Open Game Art - Public use art, music, sounds, models, etc.
http://www.opengameart.org
>PONES - 2D platformer base for GameMaker Studio
https://www.mylittlegamedev.com/thread-1561.html

Find/Submit/Discuss games:
>http://www.equestriagaming.net
>[email protected]
>http://mylittlegamedev.com
>http://discord.me/everfreegames

Lyra's List (game design docs):
>http://www.equestriagaming.net/2017/04/re-introducing-lyras-list.html
(Two days left to submit for this week.)
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Guess we'll get the ball rolling with some slightly older screenshots of something I'm working on

>exploration-heavy/metroidvania style game
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>>30079965
Glowing things in these are wil'o wisps, which turn red and attack when provoked.
Always thought D&D/typical fantasy enemies fit pretty well into the MLP world.
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>>30079965
>>30079971
looks neat, anon

also, equestriagames is alive again?
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>>30080357
Nice try, OP. Consider lurking moar
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>>30080622
hwat
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Since /cfog/ on /vg/ got nuked, I've been hankering for some classic fallout. Does anyone have the link to the Fallout 2 LittlePip mod? Any OverMare Studios news? Mod pastebin for all the Fallout3/Vegas/4 related mods? I remember this UI mod for 4 that was coming along nicely
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>>30080683
>Littlepip mod
http://donitz.deviantart.com/art/Fallout-2-Littlepip-Mod-322083843

Overmare iirc changed the name of FOE to Ashes of Equestria to avoid legal concerns with Bethesda, but that was back in like mid-March so you might have already seen it.
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>>30079965
>>30079971
Just curious, what is this?
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>>30080764
A bigger project I'm working on from time to time, meant to be an overhaul of one of my old old projects that was made with all those cliche ".EXE" creepypastas in mind back in 2012-2013.

Basically taking what worked for that project and building on it
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>>30080810
What's the name of the project? How long have you been working on it?
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>>30080829
So far, there's no definite name, only naming its project folder "Cave". I've been working on it off and on for about a month or so, jobhunting's been taking time away from it so there's that.

I ended up making art of the character since I needed some kind of OC to avoid using pre-existing characters to prevent legal stuff just in case.

Basically, the pony needs to find the petals of a magic rose in order to make an antidote for a poison for someone and the only place to find this rose is a cave that's haunted by some lonely spirit, the one who spread out the petals in the first place.
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>>30080870
That's actually pretty neat. Need music?
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>>30080953
Not currently, sorry. I'm looking to put more ambiance and put a lot of work into the sound design.
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>>30080972
It's all good. You still got me looking forward to your project regardless
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Any updates on the My Little Investigations project?
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>>30081751
It's been like four years.
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>>30081751
I think that project's dead, mate
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Anyone know what's up with Horsegame? The twitter is active from the looks of it, but the website only has the alpha release from a year and a half ago?
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>>30082825
Really? I recently unsubbed from their youtube because I hadn't seen an update in like, two years. I'll have to check out their twitter
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>>30082853
i want more slashy slashy shottygunny horse but I've already played the demo and i want more
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>>30082825
It's coming along. I tracked down Sparkle and asked him about the game a few months ago.
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>>30080683
On the nexus when browsing all files, at the right you can expand a tag list, look for the "Related to mlp" tag.
Have fun.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/searchresults/?src_order=1&src_sort=0&src_view=1&src_tab=1&tag[0]=1594&src_language=0&src_showadult=1&page=1&pUp=1
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>>30079726
>fnaf

ew kys
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>>30079726
MegaPony is quite a fun game. I only wish they'd have put a few more soundtracks in it. Kind of a bummer to hear the same old boss music when you're fighting the final boss.

Wasn't there some talk a long time ago that someone was thinking about making a Megapony X or a pony hack for MegaMan X or something?
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>>30083577
You mean MegaMare X?
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>>30083639
That could be it, yeah. Heard anything about it?
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>>30079726
Any updates on Minty Fresh Adventure 2 or the Pony Platforming project overall?

After the Minty the minty game he just died off. I believe originally he wasn't even planning for a Minty game, it just came to him out of a sudden and he made it in less than 3 months.
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>>30083663
>Minty Fresh Adventure
I almost forgot about that game! I should play it again soon.
>After the Minty the minty game he just died off
Oh...
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>>30083653
See for yourself: https://megamare-x.tumblr.com/
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>>30083663
aww
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>>30083663
Minty game? Link?
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>>30081751
Case Two had to temporarily stop development after an audio engineer quit, but it's supposed to be coming along nicely now.
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>>30083506
>crimes against nature
Well at least now I have an excuse to play that cancerous abomination of a game that is Fallout 4
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>>30079726
Dunno if it count for this thread, but I'm working on a small "racing" game for mobile & VR (kinda like "Race The Sun", but less abstract and with short tracks).
I intend to make one semi-hidden track were you would race in a world of multi-colored pastel ponies, with the boss level being two unnamed pegacorns taking turn to stop you.
More of an Easter egg than an actual Pony Game, but eh ...
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>>30083506
Nice eyes and lightning on that twilight poner.
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>>30086155
It's got more pone in it than most other racing games so I'd say it counts.
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>>30083509
fnaf where?
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The world needs some more pony browser games, imo
like, non-porn flash and HTML5 games that aren't dirt clicking sims like Ponytown.
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>>30088316
This. I'd kill for some more browser games that aren't porn.
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>>30087153
here
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>>30088439
Like, I'm down for porn and all, but I need something for when I'm not trying to get off to pastel horses.
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j uly
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>>30088996
Bullshit. I think Ju-lying
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>>30083506
I don't see the pony Divegrass 4cc mods included in that search, but I know for a fact that I saw a mod a few months ago that added mlp jersey and scarves. Anyone know where those are at?
And speaking of fake soccer, how would one go about putting the /mlp/ team into your own pc version of PES?
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>>30088316
Pony town and ever free outpost aren't so bad. I hope they keep getting developed
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>>30090027
EO has some stuff to do at least. You can find resources, and build stuff, and explore.
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>>30090027
It's not that they're bad, its just that PonyTown is literally just "click dirt, talk to autists RPing behind trees: the game"

Where's the "-Town" in "PonyTown"?
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>>30090078
Fair enough. It needs some work done, add the ability to build a house or some shit. That way towns can actually be formed.
I wouldn't mind playing some frontier style survival sim, like terraria or Minecraft but more horse related
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>>30090112
Then you're wanting EO.
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>>30090131
Pretty much. But I want more from EO than it's currently offering. I know the source code is available on github, but I am shit and can't make games. Hopefully Everfree Outpost's creator is still working on it
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>>30090148
I assume he is, but I haven't seen a thread for it in weeks.
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>>30083509
Dude, I've never played megaman, and even I know that's fucking megaman
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>>30090188
>I assume he is
I am.

>I haven't seen a thread for it in weeks
Not since last September, I think.

I haven't been making threads because I haven't had much worth showing. This is partly because I've been busy and haven't been working on the game as much as I used to, and partly because the work I have been doing has mostly been on the engine and server internals, which has few visible effects on gameplay.
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>>30090416
>Not since last September, I think.
Shit, has it really been that long?
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>>30091030
Well, I haven't made an "official" outpost thread since then. There have been a few threads posted by other people, such as the "Pony Town vs. Everfree Outpost" thread that showed up 2-3 months ago. Unfortunately, desuarchive search is down right now, so it's hard to check.
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>>30091296
Well, I hope you get some free time to work on it. It's already come so far since the first thread. Also, what music do you have? I want to contribute, but I know someone else is working on providing you some tunes
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>>30091296
I hadn't even heard of EFO until today, it looks really good so far, keep up the good work but don't work yourself too hard
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Ah
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>>30083987
>Last update was on February
Sooo... Did they drop it? Or are they still working on it, just very slowly?
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> recommending unity instead of unreal
Why
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What about that game that got greenlit on steam, what do you guys think about it? Ambient white or whatever

It seems pretty cliché and shit, but it's the closest thing to a real pony game that currently exists.
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>>30095294
Post screenshots or something, please.
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>>30079726
>http://desktop-pony-team.deviantart.com/
I'm having way too much fun with this.
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>>30095306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVv-Lp4TWUg
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>>30095457
Holy shit. That game got greenlit? I remember years ago when the guy was first starting out
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>>30095642
>I remember years ago when the guy was first starting out
What was everyone expecting back then?
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>>30095716
That it would die like the piece of shit that it is. Now I'm actually kind of excited because it's really come very far, piece of shit or not.
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>>30095738
>Now I'm actually kind of excited because it's really come very far, piece of shit or not.
Same. Shit or not, I just want more pony games.
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So I just downloaded the ambience.prolog beta demo, and I honestly expected it to be a lot more shit than it is. For how ambitious the scope is, the demo works surprisingly well - and that's a pretty old version of the game if I understand things correctly.

AAA pony game when?
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>>30095746
And I just want 1 FIM game which is remotely in spirit and theme of a cute high fantasy adventure for little girls.

NOG YOUR FUXKIBG ROLEPLAYING LORD OF CUT MY WEDDING RINGS KEKSHED The Third. You autistic, unoriginal, idealess, talentless fucks.

Have you ever played anything aside from geek crap like final fantasy, megaman, castlevania and pokemon you unimaginative dumbheads?
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>>30096369
Go suck my AAA dick. Then suck your tiny AAA battery you operate on.
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>>30096802
What the fuck is your problem?

Are you complaining that there are no good pony games? That's what everyone else is complaining about too, why are you yelling at people?
Go make a good game, we'll be waiting.
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>>30096802
I know that feel lad.
>tfw no cutesy pony adventure with lots of depth and story but no edgelord themes
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>>30097098
Depth and story are expensive, unfortunately.
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>>30097194
Story's actually not that hard. As a writer, it doesn't take a great amount of technical knowledge to get a story going, especially in a game where it takes a backseat to gameplay
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>>30096369
Didn't Ubisoft team up with Hasbro in the past? Anything ever come up from that besides that supposed IWTCIRD keychain in the car in WatchDogs?
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anyone play this game? it's fucking hard as shit because I'm terrible at these kinds of games, but fun and I found it pretty funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ0hwZt1ci8
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>>30089458
It's only released in /mlp/ and DL link is in Iwatchitfortheplot site
It's a great mod
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http://www.equestriagaming.net
http://mlpgamereviews.blogspot.ca
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>>30098833
>rocket shoes
>momentum on the fish
>rage inducing gameplay
this pleases my boner for difficult games
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>>30083506
3D porn i guess.
>Add mods sex animation
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>>30098003
It didn't amount to anything more than a bunch of classic board games becoming a video game package. And the IWTCIRD keychain was some lone 3D artist on the game.
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>>30080683
Fallout 2 Littlepip Mod
http://iwatchitfortheplot.romesilvanus.io/Pony/Games/Games%20%28Fan-made%3B%20Digital%29/Fallout%202%E1%8D%A1%20Littlepip%20Mod%20%28v1.4%29/

There are some other Fallout 1-4 mods.

>>30083506
>>30089458
>>30098924
I'm strongly assuming that I have the latest version of it, but I don't really know since the guy who made it just posted that ages ago in a thread here.
http://iwatchitfortheplot.romesilvanus.io/Pony/Games/Games%20%28Fan-made%3B%20Digital%29/%E2%81%84mlp%E2%81%84%20jersey%20and%20bandana%20for%20Fallout%204/
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If you had the skills to hack any game, then which game would you have put ponies in?
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>>30103263
None, because most good games are already moddable anyway, and usually already have pony mods. The problem is they generally retain most of the base game, which makes it shit - sure you can replace the playermodel in Skyrim or TF2 or GTA, but that doesn't make it a "pony game". To make a good pony game, you'd need to change so much, that you're better off just using the engine to make your own game.

Then it becomes a question of "what engine would you use", which is rather technical. I'm going to say unreal but it's really impossible to give a definite answer.
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>>30103327
>None, because most good games are already moddable anyway, and usually already have pony mods.
>it becomes a question of "what engine would you use"
You are just a real bucket of fun, aren't you?
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>>30103584
No, seriously. All games that have potential to be modded, have been modded. Anything else usually isn't even worth trying to make into a pony game, because it's just so far away from one that the problem is basically exacerbated - either the genre is completely wrong (pony call of duty, anyone?) or it's like a 2D indie game with an inflexible engine where it's easier to rebuild the game from scratch than try to mod it.

Although actually I just remembered one game which still doesn't have a coherent pony mod - Dwarf Fortress. That said, its support for magic is generally lacking, and while you could throw something together to emulate magic by using pretty names and descriptions, it wouldn't really work very well.
With an actual magic system under development, though, it may be an excellent candidate for a pony game, given its flexibility and complexity. Unfortunately, by now the fandom's nowhere big enough for there to be enough people who like ponies AND dwarf fortress for there to be someone willing to put in the time required for something like that.
So that's actually a good answer to your question then. I'd wait till Dwarf Fortress gets a proper magic system, then mod the shit out of it to make an equestria simulator.
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>>30103263
I want a mod for Age of Empires or some RTS that makes everything pony related. I tried making a Age of Empires clone from scratch years ago, but it never really went anywhere and I lost the source when my hard drive died.
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>>30104094
Why not try again?
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>>30104547
From scratch RTS games are hard, especially when you try to make it a straight clone of a popular game. I'd like to make another try at it, but make it more original and smaller so it's less ambitious.
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>>30103826
It'd be kind of interesting to see a game about ascii charcters and text adventuring be modded to have stuff from the show
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bumpernoli
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>>30106237
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So anons, what pony game would you consider your favorite? Horse Game, albeit a demo, is mine with Megapony close behind.
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>>30083639
>>30083653
>>30083987
>>30094813


Megamare X Game Designer here. It's still alive and well, we just don't update the tumblr for small things. We'll probably have a new update sometime soon.

Pic related: its a screenshot of the intro stage's map file.
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>>30105696
Yeah. There are semi-finished pony tilesets out there, but no proper gameplay mods to my knowledge.
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>>30106977
Glad to see it still around. Keep up the good work!
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A 2D fighter starring the mane 6.
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>>30108026
we had that, but Hasbro killed it
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>>30108026
>>30106865
The original fighting is magic leak. I played that for probably a thousand goddamn hours...

Still excited for TFH now. Can we talk about that in this thread or is that verboten
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http://www.equestriagaming.net/2017/05/lyras-list-17.html#more

Lel 1 lousy submission and it's shit.

Guys we should write some game design documents ourselves. With lots and lots of edited images.
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>>30079726
>>30108026
>>30106977
You're the shittiest fans I've ever seen. You take a cutesy fantasy cartoon in the vein of The Smurfs and start parodying it/cross-overing it with action garbage like Megaman, Metroidvania, Rayman and Street Fighter. You should be doing an adventure exploration game instead.

Do you even understand the source material what makes it good or what it's suppose to be for?
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>>30111938
>You should be doing an adventure exploration game instead.
And what have YOU done to make this a reality? Shitposting doesn't count.

I notice, for example, that you didn't submit a GDD for the recent "Lyra's List" post: >>30111918
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>>30100687
Not sure if there's one for Fallout 4... but hell, skyrim's sex mod + CaN is fucking perfection.
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>>30112372
That isn't my post you filthy faggot.
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>>30106977
Can you give us a rough estimate on when it might be finished?
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>>30113187
Might want to work on that reading comprehesion, bud
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>>30111696
If it's a game/mod that has any ties to ponies, it's not off topic here, anon. Post away.

>>30111938
>You should be doing an adventure exploration game instead
You're saying that all of us should just stop everything and all of us should just make games of the same genre to flood the saturated market with nothing but adventure-exploration games? Fuck off, faggot.
You want your adventure-exploration game so badly, you'll either wait from someone to make one or you'll help out getting on started by posting something like a GDD, not shitposting and whining like a little bitch because "hurr durr anyone who doesn't make me an adventure exploration game is a shitty fan".

0/10 made me reply, terrible b8.
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>>30113466
>you're saying that because
Just for fucking once will you be honest about something? Literally the worst fandom in the world, not even drones are this self-righteous, but horsefuckers managed to break the mold of hypocrism and playing the victim card.
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>>30113637
>playing the victim card
The fuck? All he said is that you should put in a little effort instead of just bitching, if you really want that pony adventure/exploration game.

And he's right, of course. If you want to convince people to work on your particular game idea (in their spare time, for free, instead of one of the million other things they could be working on), calling them a bunch of hypocritical faggots is not a good way to go about it. You'd be much better off writing a detailed GDD and hyping up your own idea. Maybe run it by the content creation thread for feedback, when it shows up later this month. You could also get Gamemaker/Godot or something and make a simple prototype yourself, if you really want to get people's attention.
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>>30103826
I'd love to see someone put the time and effort into making a pony mod of Dwarf Fortress
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>>30114038
Same

Unfortunately by the time the magic stuff is completed in a couple years there fandom is probably gonna be actually dead. And I have no idea how well you could do it with only existing features.
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>>30114038
There's this: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12646
It's unfinished but might be useful as a starting point.

>>30114066
>And I have no idea how well you could do it with only existing features
With some creativity you could maybe make custom reactions do what you want. Depends on exactly what effects you want "magic" to have, I guess. The existing pony mod uses them to give unicorns a "freezing spray" attack spell. You can also use them to define custom crafting recipes, so you could maybe add a way of crafting "enchanted" items.
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>>30111938
>shittiest fans
you've somehow have never seen the fanfiction crowd and it's blatant crossovers and parodies, with a healthy helping of edgelord.
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Need to read thread
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>>30104666
I'm sort of attempting to overhaul Wargus into a pony mod, similar to one that already exists but using that Aleona's Tales version of Wargus so people don't need to buy Warcraft 2 just to play it, but the multiplayer is broken right now so idk how long it'll be before I can get some substantial progress on it.
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>ctrl+f
>"Sulphur Nimbus"
>0 results

Nevermind then
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>>30118824
Is it any good yet?
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>>30118842
The playable demo was already pretty solid, the flying feels amazing
The developer has also been posting small update videos on separate channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB_g3tJFR5au21j8FNhCB6A
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What do you guys think of the Gmod mlp servers?
Know about any good ones?
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>>30101408
Holy shit, that link is fucking dope. Didn't expect to find all that
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>>30119719
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>>30079726
So what do you guys think about Megapony?
Favourite boss and stage? Worst boss? Which of the Mane 6 was the most fun to play as?
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>>30121407
I don't remember much of the first time playing it but Rainbow Dash was fun to play as
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byump
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>>30120408
Shit, I should have listened. 10 minutes in and I was recruited by the candy kingdom to kill the heir.
At least did erp and cucked a legit autist with his 'gf'. Pure cancer.
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>>30117766
Scratch that, multiplayer works alright locally, just need to try some online before I see if this project can go forward.
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>>30123351
>10 minutes in and I was recruited by the candy kingdom to kill the heir.
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>>30123351
That's gmod for you
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>>30123351
What did you honestly expect
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>>30124846
I'm not even sure, I thought I was going to meet functional human beans. But now I see where the deviantart-tier ocs come to take form.
I kinda feel like going back, my money printers ain't going to farm themselves
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Focus on sex.
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bumperino
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What a boring board full of mutes.
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>>30128455
Well, try and start a discussion over pony games then, like Canterlot Siege or something. Lots of small games out there made by the fandom; many bad, some good.
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>>30129983
Include pony mods in the discussion too, there are plenty of good mods for terraria, starbound and minecraft
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>>30128455
quiet days
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>>30083506
>mfw no sex animation mod yet
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Update on >>30124008
Using those (overused) 3D pony models, I've rendered out a sprite sheet of ponies to use as peasants in Wargus. Due to limited colors, it looks like ass up close, but looks alright ingame. Also changed some sounds to be higher quality, and changed Gold to Gemstones and Oil to (Liquid) Rainbow. I also made Farms into the Ponyville houses.

Not too much work done yet, but it's going fairly smoothly.
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>>30130854
How are the pony mods for Terraria and Starbound?
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>>30133980
On both they mostly change the player race, and give unique looks to the armor.
https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/mlp-terraria-pony-pack.48489/
http://community.playstarbound.com/resources/the-pony-modpack.1775/

Sadly, they're both outdated.
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>>30132932
Don't let your memes be dreams anon.
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>>30132932
>>30100687

Gotcha senpaitachi
http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3288-crazy6987-sex-animation/
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>>30133404
I like what I see anon
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>>30133404
>Warcraft 2 The pony
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>>30134379
Aw
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>There will never be a hack for Super Mario 64 that replaces Mario with a pony and the castle with Canterlot castle or Twilight's castle
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>>30137219
Don't let your memes be dreams anon.

Hacking old games isn't that hard. I think there might be guides out there on how to replace models in-game.
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>>30130854
Pony mods, pony hacks, pony games.

If you could create a pony hack for any retro game right now, then which game would you pick?
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>>30138337
>If you could create a pony hack for any retro game right now, then which game would you pick?
Off the top of my head, probably one of the old Legends of Zelda. It seems to be the closest to ponies when it comes to the spirit of things.
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>>30138365
The 2D Zelda's are some of the easier ones to make graphical hacks of, since they use sprites that you can edit in something like the program YY-CHR.
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>>30138365
>>30138801
This. You can literally change everything about the original Zelda - up to and including changing the memory values in real time, provided you use a proper emulator - so you can basically make your own game out of it, too.

For the later ones that's slightly harder but something like link to the past has support for cutscenes and stuff already, and I think there are easy and well-documented ways to make rom hacks.

It still wouldn't be too easy since you'd need to sprite everything relevant + make a good storyline + make good maps for everything + script it all, including all the dialogue + flesh out the world, with stuff like background NPCs etc. And that's assuming you don't/can't modify or hack around the base game mechanics to do interesting pony-related stuff.
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>>30138864
>It still wouldn't be too easy since you'd need to sprite everything relevant + make a good storyline + make good maps for everything + script it all, including all the dialogue + flesh out the world, with stuff like background NPCs etc
Guess this is the main reason why most don't hack retro games.
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>>30133404
Alright, got some more progress on renders for this. The Town Hall and Library (which replaces Aleona's Tales' mage tower, allowing you to spawn Twilight/unicorn mages).
The buildings are quite a bit harder to make as I'll have to make some buildings from scratch (e.g. the barracks, docks, etc.), but I'm using premade models where I can to keep from spending lots of time on a single building. The Library was a pain in the ass because no one had a good model except for one with nearly all of the links dead except for one on a 3D print site without textures so I colored the tree after rendering the sprite out.
Again, since Warcraft/Wargus uses a 256 color palette for objects with team colors, it looks kind of limited but not too shabby.
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>>30139381
That gonna be good.
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>>30118824
I backed that, I'm excited for that, I played the demo for a downright silly amount of time.

Just... much like TFH, it's not really a pony game any longer
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>>30138864
So, would it be easier to build one from scratch, or hack one together? If anyone's serious about this, I'll contribute anyway I can. My main skill is music, but I'll learn any skill to help
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