State of /mlp/

>>30070657
>What's your opinion?
OP is being a faggot again?
OP is being a faggot again.

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>>30070657
>/mlp/ is pretty damn good
It is dead
>BUT MUH 18TH FASTEST BOARD
It will keep dying at this rate. The thing needs oil to move, if there is not people to post along with this fandomis nothing.
That's how it started and that's why it will end. If you don't lubricate the wheels with faggots then they will stop moving at some point.
We are not like /vp/ that they have a game every year or so forever and tournaments, smogon drama, anime, movies and that shit.
Here the content is very little.

>>30070723
It might be dead but at least it's good. Less shitposting, less newfags, more traditional /mlp/. How can you not like it?

>>30070736
Well not like I can change it.

>>30070657
Not my opinion but rather a fact: You're a faggot

>>30070736
>at least it's good
Hot opinion detected

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yOZEiHLuVU
Honestly best ending we could have had I guess.
I expected it to be nuked by now, now that there is little people posting, but it seems mods are going to let it run until the show itself dies.

>>30070657
good
>/mlp/ is getting less political day by day. the "poners are not for politics" dialectics is correct, and the things are now as they should be.
>less moralfags "shut up degenerate!" as it should be

bad
>too many people are whining because the show is not perfect anymore for their standards

>>30070657
Theres nothing wrong with generals.

>>30070922
>>too many people are whining because the show is not perfect anymore for their standards
So nothing has changed

>>30071414
>empty bumps
>arguments
>non-pony shit
You are the cancer killing this board.

>>30070657
The fat pony fetish threads are eating their own again. Seems only to be mellowhen, calorie, and dufel these days. The very few who post content anymore are slobfags that a select few users are so triggered by that they're trying to split into sub-generals just like they did a million times before. Inevitably this will fail and they'll return to their containment thread for another few months, with less content and more bumps.

That's all I come to 4chan for these days and I'm still disappointed.

>>30071439
This.

>>30070657
Vogelposting is also down.

There seem to be fewer "bump generals" than before, but that may only be because I now hide/filter all CYOAs.

EqGfags and Twilicorn apologists still exist
The board is still dead as far and I'm concerned

>>30072179
EQG has its own issues but it's not bad and it belongs here.

>>30070657
>forced memes and spam

pretty much the only thing that annoys me

>>30070657
Could be better.

>>30070736
Are you fucking joking at this point? Till the hasdrones aren't dead and I don't see creativity at the level of 2006 /tg/ then this is not a healthy speed for a board.

Cartoon discussion is dead and even if it wasn't it would be full of idiots like back on EqDaily or Pisschan.

It really could be worse.

>>30071863
>cyoas
>bump generals
wut

>>30070657
>board still not red
>fanfic generals and cyoas still clutter up the board
>senseless bumping still not worthy of a ban
>ponies still not allowed outside mlp despite all other content being forgiven
>still no hype because the show became stagnant
>mlpol still btfo'd
>moot, mods and now hiro are still faggots

Nothing ever changes around here.

/mlp/ still stands as a testament to how eagerly ruling elites turn against those bebeath them, all for the sake of preserving their own tight-fisted control over site and board culture.

At least the show is still good.

Oh wait, no it isn't.

The only reason I'm still on this ride is to see how it ends, even if it's moving so slowly that we could all just jump off right now.

>>30070657
Writefags are still shitting up the board with threads full of cringe-worthy walls of text that turn into shitty bump generals while the writefags are away picking up their welfare checks.

>>30070657
We need to remove gr15. Give the entire board the /mlpol/ treatment, then once all the shitters are scared off of the other boards, we abandon this sinking ship and reside back in our comfy thread on /co/.

>remove every general in this board that should be in fanfic sites in the first place
>remove GR 15 just to stop barneyfag/retards pretending to be barneyfag from constantly derailing threads

>>30074911
>fanfic sites
Fimfiction specifically has a rule against greentext. And I'm sure most other generic fan fiction sites are about as welcoming to ponyfags as Hitler was to the Jews. Sure you can pastebin and link them here, but then the writefag thread becomes a dump of pastebin links.
>GR15
Do you know what would happen if we removed that rule? The place would be the bad side of 2011 all over again.

If Fluttershy actually becomes pregnant I say we shut down /mlp/ and never speak of it even again.

>>30070657
Not enough cuckshed threads, this board is 0/10 quality

>>30070657
>Poochiep[...]

Stopped reading right there. Ooops.

>>30070657
>We need to talk about what's going on lately
I want to talk pony.
You want to talk about thread quality?

Well, the quality would probably be higher if not jelous haters mass-post in order to chase away those who make successful content.
(Like a certain cartoon got assaulted by envious derpifans.)

>>30070657
Good:
>/MLP/ Plays
>Some CYOA
>Drawthreads keep /mlp/ with traffic

Bad:
>Lack of content and people on /MLP/ Plays, which leads to empty bumps
>Most of the Generals
>People rather stay in their general than searching the board

>>30074558
>fanfic generals and cyoas still clutter up the board
It's content, make more threads discussing the show if you have problem with them you fucking communist.

>>30071437
No, things have changed. It's the same problem that we have had for a while, but on a different scale. Either there there is a greater proportion of people bitching, the people who were already bitching bitch more frequently, or the people who were posting other things have begun posting less and thus less effectively offset the bitching.

>>30074267
There are a lot of people who seem to think that CYOA's don't actually count as content, regardless of how quickly or slowly they run. In their mind every single CYOA is a general that only generates bumps and will continue to eat up a valuable thread slot till the end of time when in reality the slot would probably otherwise be occupied by some shitposting thread.

>>30074960
This guy gets it. Can we have less threads talking about threads and people on the board and more threads discussing the show and fan content?

And to be clear, I'm not saying that the people who are posting meta threads like this thread constantly need to start posting show and fan content, I'm just saying that they need to stop posting this shit.

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The absolute worst possible thing is the disappearance of the mug fucker, is he still with us, will he ever return?
I need to know.

>>30070657
>Nyxposting exists

>>30070657
>IWPPTSMFOMF
Don't fucking start calling that you idiot. It's bad enough I know what you're talking about and I haven't been on the board in a damn week.

>>30074921
>The place would be the bad side of 2011 all over again.
I highly doubt it. Mods just need to do their fucking jobs. The brony population has definitely been reduced since 2011, and many of the VPNs and proxies that were used to do mass spamming back then have all been rangebanned.

>>30076198
>le mods are faggots meme
Explain this to me. I find 4chan's moderation to be excellent across the boards.

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Allow porn here and this board will be glorious.

>>30074921
>The place would be the bad side of 2011 all over again.
>Implying

Spam is already against the rules, GR15 is just in place to appease autists that can't handle looking at a cartoon pony, six years after it came out. I bet half of them weren't even there for the 2011 spam-wave. There's no reason for it to exist on 4chan of all places. The website would be better as a whole if it was removed and people were forced to either ignore what they hated or leave.

>>30076475
Are you sure, though? It's been proven time after time that ponies REALLY wrinkle everyone's sprinkles. A lot of that is Barneyfagging I still have my doubts about it being one dude or bandwagon appeal, or legitimate PTSD. If something new was shoved in your face and you were resilient to change you wouldn't like it. That's the mentality of the normies.
I think a good compromise would be more lenient enforcement - GR15 is on paper still there, but the mods only step in to assign vacations whenever the ponyposting becomes rampant or irrelevant. That seems to be the current direction of things - mods will often leave blatant pony images up yet public ban Barneyfaggers.

>>30076544
And it's also been proven time and time again, to me, that people don't care about ponies. Whenever pony is recognized, there are either no posts for it, or the majority of posts for it are 'HE COMES' or 'Barneyfag where?' And of course, 'Die Barneyfag.'
We can both throw out anecdotal evidence, but it doesn't support either of our arguments.

Something new is always going to be shoved in people's faces. Ever since people realized that you can trigger other people on 4chan with a single image, people have been searching for the next big bait. But as much as say, Steven Universe is spammed, or Samurai Jack is spammed, or any other 'new' show that gets attention, they never get banned. They never get their own board and become banned on sight. The autists are told to suck it up and move on, because who gives a shit if you don't like something? This is 4chan.
Why are we the exception? Because we did exactly what every other show does when it gets big? Six fucking years ago? That's horseshit.

And leniency fucking sucks, but that's just my personal opinion. I hate people who won't just pick a side and instead try to play both.

>>30070723
What is dead cannot die but rises harder and stronger.

>>30076544
>the mods only step in to assign vacations whenever the ponyposting becomes rampant or irrelevant.
So basically Rule 15 becomes a rule against reposting, spamming and off-topic bullshit.
So just a duplicate of Rules 3 and 10.

Looking at the catalog there's like 40 generals. When did it get this bad

>>30077531
When the speed died
We are at 6k- posts in good days
People keep being in denial saying this won't kill the board but it will.

>>30077479
Yeah, but specifically mentioning ponies. It could work, right?

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>>30070657
Bad:
>Canada killed the weekly new episode sticky. Now you have to either rush through the episodes
to an early hiatus to keep up with discussions or stay on schedule with barely anyone

>>30077588
Why didn't the mod create stickies for the Canadian airings instead?

>>30077576
I think you forget that even a single pony image back then could cause a whole thread to derail, which is why GR15 is different from the reposting/spamming rule in that supposedly not even one pony is allowed outside of /mlp/.
Becoming more lax on it and only enforcing it when it's spammed would essentially mean it's a duplicate of the reposting/spamming rule.

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>>30070657
I think the problem is we're having less fun. Seriously. Like, a few months ago, we were capping shit, more funny stuff was happening, and there was just a lot more action overall. However, it seems there's less neat stuff anymore. Sure we have comfy threads, but what about the ones where we go wild and loose our shit, cap it, and do whatever? They say that Summer will bring it back...but as we approach it more and more, I fear this to be untrue.

I mean, look at this:
>pic related.

It feels so outdated now. It's like we've had a massive paradigm shift in our humor. I feel that maybe the change of the show's status quo (what with the additions of Starlight "if you're not equal, I'll wreck your asshole" Glimmer) might have had something to do with this, but who knows?

I see legitimately funny posts and things worthy of a large reaction but the reactions are never made.

I think the solution to this is simple: we need to do more. We need to self-generate our own hype if we're to increase and sustain ourselves. We're /mlp/, we have enough of our own culture to keep us going, but we just haven't.


What we need is more sustainability so that we do not have to solely rely on generals, greens, or CYOAs alone.

So I propose this to you all: do more. Just have a blast and do shit. Don't shitpost, just be willing to react and to share stories. We're a community in here whether we like it or not, and we need to keep together.

>>30077797
>ZOOM UP THESE FUCKING WORDS
You want your hype? There. There's your hype.

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>>30077797
I, for one, am quite hype, contrary to what you may believe. Speaking of which, might you be kind enough to capture my written text on this here post, good sir? It would very much so fulfill my inner desire for acceptance and belongingness. I also wish to further request that not only will you capture my text and my post, but the graphic image of an exaggerative nature that I have used to display the feelings that swell within me as a result of your thoughtful wordage and bold claims.

ALSO...check 'em.

>>30070657
Canada killed us.

>>30074558
Good to know you're unhappy about the situation.
Hope it doesn't change :^)

May this board suffer and die.

>>30077534
Even during S5/S6 I don't remember it being this bad. I was genuinely a bit shocked looking at the catalog. Other boards complain about a general problem but when I looked it was like nothing but generalss

>>30070657
Crossposting has gone down and "include me in the cap" posters have cancerously multiplied.

>>30077797
>Capping your own shit

>>30078199
You can watch Canadian streams; Canada also gave us the show.

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>>30070657
I honestly can't thing of anything super good right now.

I came here around 1.5~ years ago (but I've been a fan since early 2012) so I can only really compare to since then. I think a lot of the magic died for me when the prompt threads got banned under the ridiculous pretense of roleplaying. Those threads were a great time and generated loads of green and even art not uncommonly. Another shit thing that happened was the deleting of the No-CNS Anon threads literally because only one guy came in, claimed it was a /soc/ thread, not pony related, was spam, etc. and the mods listened to him for some reason despite it being none of those things. I guess the biggest issue is people claiming stuff that is show/board related should be banned and then it gets banned. Then when people are correct in saying "this shouldn't be banned" retards immediate jump to "ZOMG DO YOU WANT THIS TO BE /b/ BUT WITH PONIES?11?!1!!!? THIS IS FOR THE SAKE OF GOOD CONTENT!!!!111!111!1"

And I've only seen people have less and less fun whenever that happens. I don't know when/where this good content these people claim will be produced is suppose to be/come from but I've yet to see it.

>>30070657
I've noticed a little bit of /o/ seeping in a bit more recently. Personally, I like that, but I think it's a bit odd

>>30079133
Yes.
The death of the prompts was really fucking retarded.
Half the content of the board relied on that, and it only happened because this dumbass got a hateboner for candyass.

>>30079210
If you're talking about the twingo memes, I believe it's tied to the 4cc.
There's a lot of crossboarding action when a match comes, and some memes find themselves crossing the borders, for some obscure reasons.
At least, I never saw any twingoposting before the /mlp/ vs /o/ match, so... yeah.

>>30079211
This. I'm still majorily disappointed about that.

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>>30077797
good post desu, good threads are being made lately but are being shot the fuck down because of basic shitposts and no one can knows to explore anything or just have fun with it

Greentext or decent conversation is rarer to come by because most threads aren't being made with any proper thought or merit to them, leading many to lurk and check back every now and then for a non-shit thread

>>30079238
desu writefagging is hard these days.
Even if you write something you feel good about, nobody says shit.
There's always one guy saying thanks, and another saying it's shit, or something to do with cuckshed.
If people stopped being edgy for no reasons and told the writefags that they liked their shit, it would already help.
idk, maybe I'm just grumbling.

>>30079238
Agreed. No one really thinks things through. We just spit stuff out and hope we get (you)'s that don't come, and then leave unless there's a nonshit thread, where then only lurk.

>>30079276
This. I wrote a whole dialogue driven greentext where Pinky and the Brain kidnap Flurryheart. It had a small response...but not many paid much attention to it.

>>30079308
Mate that shit was great. I felt so bad when I saw that nobody, save for me and a couple others, said shit.
This is exactly what I'm talking about, if you wrote that 3 years ago, or even now on /co/ you would've gotten dozens of (you)'s.

>>30079349
And I don't think it's only because there's less traffic. I mean, look at the number of people responding to retarded bait threads.

>>30079276
That's because most greens now are short and simple. No one has large greens anymore with an old-school Anon that's a crazed wildman.

Instead we get short, not as inventive "love stories" that are short and dull. I hate being rude, but I think that's the truth. I don't have any real writefags I follow because they're all fucking about in generals, while OTHER writefags that aren't as good will usually try their luck wherever they can, be it stray threads or whatever.

I don't wanna offend people or anything, especially those writers, but I think the immense decline in the quality of our greens plays a significant role in this.

>>30079226
Well, some of it is Twingos, but I'm seeing car chat pop up every now and again in all sorts of places

>>30079349
Thanks, man. That actually means a lot. I worked hard on it and I really thought people would like it. I'm glad you enjoyed it though. I wish you well, family.

>>30079376
This. Still I try to come up with longer stories.

Porn needs to be allowed on this board. In that way, we can then get more traffic here and also possible to get those anons back that wen't to 8 chan. It's the best way to be honest.

>>30079470
>get those anons back that wen't to 8 chan
You mean, all 4 of them? That's kinda daring, anon.

Greentext seems to not be "in" right now, especially since around last season due to numerous reasons.
>It's a more hostile environment than before; board-wide shitposting has increased far beyond a simple "twilight will lose her wings in the season 6 finale" post and can easily derail/discourage further posting
>generals are confided in more and work well with greens due to better communication and the abscence of other issues, however generals are now changing focus/falling off which normally would be fine
>last year's scenario with "no roleplaying" being tagged onto numerous potentially good and non-rule breaking threads cut off efforts for a long time and was left unchecked
It's possible to return and garner interest, it has just been so long in a state that doesn't allow OC posters (or even the average poster) to thrive.
Just get some confidence and not surrender to the weightless cuckshed spamming no-fun-allowed mentality and start posting about fucking horses again.

>>30079484
It doesn't look that bad. Though it looks like it might have lost some of them too after that hacking happened but still, not that bad. Porn just needs to be allowed here and that's it, problem solved. Many other boards allow it too, so why is it problem on this board?

>>30079470
>more traffic
you mean more "empty" traffic, right?
There are hundreds of places to search for pony porn.
Also, the only main difference is that there are gonna be porn images and people asking "s-sauce?". Because greentext and some CYOA have porn/lewd already in it.

>>30079872
I dunno Anon. (not him btw)
IMO all traffic is good, some of those 'sauce' posters would eventually participate in some form of discussion.

>>30079872
Any better ideas? The only difference i see is that they can post porn while we can't. It's not much really but we could at least get some of them back. Or what, are 4chan and 8 chan in some kind of a war or what is it?

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>>30079078
Leafs killed /mlp/. We don't have sticky thanks to them.

>>30079470
Under all circumstances we shouldn't crash like /pone/ or other non-/mlp/ sites.

>>30070657

>>30079997
We don't have a sticky because the mod is too stupid to figure out a timeslot 15 minutes removed from the normal timeslot.

>>30074558
mlpol organized off website, you know

Cuckshed.

>>30070657
No problem in asking advice regarding the ">would you/what do fags" as long as it starts a discussion

>>30083002
Good, they can stay there.

>>30079997
That filename. How?

>>30070657
The Scruffenings ruined /mlp/. We used to rival /v/ and pre-death /pol/.

>>30083061
But it never does. It's literally one of like seven disgusting images and the only "discussion" that takes place are anons telling OP to rightfully fuck off and never return.

>>30079997
> Youtube memster.
Please neck yourself.

>>30079210
Crossposting used to be a lot more common and then suddenly drop.

>>30070657
I actually think overall its better this year than last year so far.

Only thing I really have to complain about is the amount of
>fandom is dying!
threads

also, some people (may be just 1 guy) that complain about 'non content' posts in generals, basically just average posts in generals that don't contain pics or greentext related to the general. I mean realy? without those the generals would be extremely boring and need constant 'bump' posts just to survive.

>>30079555
>porn needs to be allowed

Get back to >>/trash/

>>30070657
BAD:
Mods don't even give a fuck about this board, pony, or the community.

Serisouly, why don't we have one of us in the moderation team?

I know there are SEVERAL people here wo would be willing to make this place awesome again.

>>30085033
This

Doomposting needs to be a bannable offense

>>30070922
Oy vey, I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>30085422
Mods haven't been hired since pre-Something Awful years, haven't they? Janitors, yes, but I don't think mods have.

>>30085422
Because we would probably show bias and leniency on the rules. Would you really feel good about banning another horsefucker? I know I wouldn't.

>>30074216
>Cartoon discussion is dead
>1500 posts on saturday
>another 1500 posts will be reached today and tomorrow

Are you fucking kidding me?

We are currently having discussion at a volume to rival S5 and S6 combined.

It's been a LONG time since this board was so alive.

>>30077609
Because the mods are probably the worst on this entire website.

>>30079133
>>30079211
Look at these shit-ass moderators we have. All they do is ban, ban, ban, but they create literally NOTHING. Not even a sticky, or anything fun. Just. Nothing.

>>30070657
I think we're doing slightly better since S7 has been... actually somewhat decent compared to the rolling shitshows that S5 and S6 were.

But right now I think there are two humongous issues that are affecting the board. It's up to other people how they want to address them, but here are my thoughts:

>1 - Lack of hype, and conditioning for mediocrity
Even with the new season coming out, there's a real lack of new ideas and content flowing out of the show. So far, S7 has been some actually pretty decent displays of character writing for a whole host of characters - but the problem is, they're not really introducing anything new to write about or discuss. All those characters we've pretty much seen before.

I still say much of what made FiM really nice is that it included lots of stuff in its world that made people go "Wow, that's really neat. I'd like to discuss that, and maybe write something about it too!" And unfortunately, lately we just haven't gotten things that provoked that kind of feeling - which means we have to look back for inspiration to the last round of "new things" - and it's really not reassuring:
>The utter shitshow that was NuLings
>Ultra-modern stand-in cities, Manehattan and Las Pegasus
>M6 achieving their "character goals" suddenly and without any real struggle or fanfare
>Princess "I can't be bothered to read the lore" Flurry Heart
>Starlight "I can pull magic out of my ass" Glimmer
>The disaster of Guardians of Harmony comic
We've come to be conditioned to expect that new things will be actively negative additions, and existing things will run into the ground until they're only mediocre rather than really interesting. That really affects how we look at the show going forward.

The worst part is, it's not even a "wrong" reaction - it's a perfectly valid and reasonable expectation given how things have been run in the past.

>>30086181

>2 - The death of prompts
One of the most unambiguously disastrous changes to the board, in my opinion. It's an old rule that 90% of everything is shit, and that held for prompts too; similarly, nobody's doubting that a dozen HI ANON threads were complete and utter cancer.

Yet, the remaining 10% of good prompts formed a vital service by provoking people into new and interesting ideas that they might not have come up with on their own. It was an exchange of concepts, some of which would be launched into full-on stories by people inspired by them. This is how so many of our great writing caps were made, and the "banning" (and I use that term loosely, because prompts still get posted and stay up - I've written for them) placed a serious damper on the life of the board.

Personally, I think this plays a big role in why CYOAs have become so popular as well: What is a CYOA, but a story in which the audience prompts the writefag? It's a means of forcing interaction that would otherwise be either scruffed or met with a few lackluster "cool, write more" responses when writefags post.


>So how the fuck do we fix it?
Good one. It's difficult because the show still isn't really introducing positive new concepts for us to latch on to, and we're still effectively banned from inspiring ourselves with prompts. Yet, I don't want to seem like a total doompauler - I want this board to do well, I want us to write about new stuff again. I'm only pointing these out as "shit we need to get over to remain active". I'm just not sure how to get there.

What do you all say?

>>30086187
I'd say we should remove /mlp/ rule 4. It was really only implemented because of Candyassposting. Shit like that and the cucksheds should be enforced under global 10 as needed, instead of blocking out many legitimate and unique prompts just to avoid one that really got on Scruffy's nerves.

>>30070657
This board is as shit as /biz/ and /g/.

It's 98% shitposting and only 2% good posting.

Why can't the entirety of 4chan be more like /tg/? Why does everyone take after /b/?