Apologize for your pessimism.

>>29872632
No.

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>>29872632
I haven't even watched it yet

>>29872632
Never.

>>29872632
Celestia is nao a real character and momlestia is confirmed
trixi is fucking a doralble even tho she's a cunt

TEA CUPS

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>>29872632
I can't. I literally can't. I tried not to get my hopes too high. But I didn't like any of today's episodes. I thought that season 6 was just a weak season, but now it's clear that "this" is the show now. I couldn't like it less.

>>29872746
And Buff horse loves hats.

>>29872632
That was a bombass premiere, things are lookin up for the season

>>29872632
Haven't seen it yet, fucking stram was fucking up.
But I won't have to apologize, since I've always believed and from what I've seen, it's fucking great.

>>29872632
I cannot apologize because I was not pessimistic. Also I liked the premiere episodes. It was nice to begin a season without the Mane 6 fighting a villain.

>>29872780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYpd-2buQc0

>>29872632
I was optimistic and it had worked out as it always does.

>>29872632
First episode was bretty good. Second episode was not good. I apologize for nothing.

>>29872632
First ep was 5/10, second ep was 9.5/10

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>>29872632

>>29872632
I won't apologize for been right.

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>>29872632
My expectation was that it couldn't be worse than the premier for season 6.
I was so, so wrong.

>>29873104
>been right
>there are third wolders in this thread

OUT

>>29872632
Shills are still here in full force huh?

>>29873132
Explain why you didn't like it.

>>29872632
I apologize for telling people this season would be better than the previous one.

Guys, I'm so sorry, you were right. I'm switching to EQG now because at least that franchise is still being handled by people who CARES.

>>29873150
I'm sorry, señor

>>29873150
>wolders
OUT

>>29873266
FUCK

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When did you learn to stop replying to bait posts? It took me a long time, but I've finally learned to just ignore them.

>>29873285
rekt

>>29873334
>Wahhhhh it's b8 if I don't slurp everything they throw at us

I honestly don’t know why I bother any more. There aren’t more than a handful of shows per decade that aren’t shit and none of them have been western cartoons.

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>>29873334
now that the hiatus is over theres no reason to.

>>29872632
Sorry senpai, I always believed. Especially when I found out Lewis and Songco were the writers, the only legit terrible episode they wrote was their first one.

>>29872780
>>29873132
>>29873104
>>29873169
>>29873208
doompaulers please leave or voice some substantive criticism

>>29873445
>literally "stop not liking what I like"
People like you makes it really difficult to be civil, Anon.

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>>29873169
Shrills still here?

Yeah.

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>>29873487
>still no criticism
its almost like youre just here to whine.

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>>29872632
I always believed, OP. I didn't learn nuthin'!

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Disregard previous poll, apparently there's a non-official "sticky" that already has some.

701
http://www.strawpoll.me/12752533


702
http://www.strawpoll.me/12752693

>>29873536
Okay, here's some criticism
The second ep sucked because it made trixie out to be a total cunt just so starlight could learn a lesson

>>29873536
What criticism? Your post proved that you don't want any criticism, you just want to feel superior. I'll be more than happy to have a real conversation, but I'm not writing everything I didn't like in the episodes only to get a "no, they were great :D" as a reply.

>>29873536
>second episode of the season already has characters going full retard for the sake of a conflict
Oh yea, this season will be great

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>>29872632
I have nothing to apologise for, I always believed. My hopes were realised, I enjoyed both episodes, they hit all the right notes I was hoping for - and even beyond that. And now I feel absolutely fantastic and revitalised. Sucks for the people who can't enjoy the show anymore I guess.

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>>29873602
Trixie is a cunt tho, anon.

She's up there with Bluefast and Rarara.

>>29873664
>implying Trixie is not always a self-absorbed ass who constantly fucks up everything in sight

SETH. BED. NOW.

>>29873618
Feel free to throw it out there, if it's whining about Trixie being OOC you'll get the above response, but I'm open to hearing other issues.

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>>29873602
Trixie has always been self-centered and full of naked ambition. That's what makes her her, and why she just doesn't get along with someone like Twilight even if they aren't enemies.

>>29872632
Fuck off, Glimmer is shit.

>>29873602
>trixie being a cunt is new
try again

>>29873618
>damage control
expected.

>>29873664
only one went full retard and she has a history of it, not to mention this isnt a new thing.

>>29873678
>>29873728
I get that she's a cunt, but that entire teacup scene made her actually look like she had downs.
I didn't watch much of last season, so I had to go back to make sure she wasn't this stupid

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>>29873664
Anon, it would be out of character if Glimmer DIDN'T go full retard.

>>29873809
Anon, she's always had a complex about not being able to do "real" magic. Of course she's going to get carried away.

Ib just want it to be good, but I don't want to be let down if it sucks.

>>29873761
It's fucking disappointing to see that you /literally/ don't want to have show discussion. You reply with memes to get more memes in return. Sorry, if you thought that I was going to post ">le hasdrone", you are wrong, I don't have any interest in start insulting other people not to talk about the show.

>>29873863
Prepare to be let down.

>>29873809
>entire teacup scene
>downs
It was cute and you know it.
Why can't you just have fun for one second?
>muh 4chan

>>29873863
It was better than expected.

>>29873887
trixie is literally a cunt in every episode shes been in. what the fuck were you expecting?

>>29873863
Let down and hanging around

>>29873809
>that entire teacup scene made her actually look like she had downs
Anon, if (You) suddenly done a real magic, you would've looked even more stupid. That's how real world people work. No reason for magic horses to be different.

Trixie never was too bright and she alway was a cunt. Both in a good way, though. The episode didn't do a thing to her character - it only properly displayed the fact of anger being recursive.

>>29873957
Seriously, I'm not trying to be ironic here, do you really think that "Trixie is literally a cunt in every episode" is a good rebuttal? I mean, seriously. Just think about it for a second, you ask people who didn't like the episode elaborate why, and your reply is that line? At least try to find an equivalent of Trixie being so much of a cunt in a recent episode like TWaBA. Screaming "I'm right, you're not" is not discussion.

>>29874050
it was cute as fuck. trixie has always been full of herself for doing almost nothing. i bet she knows deep down that shes a failure which is why she tries so hard to put on a show. when she actually achieved something and got super excited it was cute as fuck.

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>>29872632
Are you fucking high? Those episodes were TERRIBLE!
I was more interested in the fucking commercials than these episode and their memes and generic song.

>Trixie being completely oblivious to Starlight's troubles
>acting like a major bitch, like Discord when he tries to fuck with ponies
>it's okay because she's always a cunt XD
No, it was just poorly written. They cranked the narcissism up to 11 to compensate for not being able to give her any sense of self awareness. She could have easily been a smug cunt absorbed in her own greatness without just being "hmmmmm i dunno lol" the whole episode. Similar to how if Rainbow Dash or Rarity gets written are a massive cunt, people call that shit out, and only shitposters think it's just their character to be that way.

>>29874279
starlight never told her anything was bothering her. shes the one who spends the most time with the m6 so if she didnt say anything was wrong why would trixie think that? when youre introduced to your friends friends you generally get an idea of whats acceptable by how your own friend reacts to your actions.

>>29874139
Being a cunt IS her character.

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I didn't like the episodes but I'm happy that we actually have new pone to discuss and shitpost about.

>>29874540
K, Anon, whatever.

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>>29872632
Poochie is never going to leave, is she

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>>29874600
she will leave when the ride ends.

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>>29874600
No.

>>29874581
He's right though. Being a cunt IS Trixie's character. and it is the reason Twilight doesn't really like her.

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>>29872632

This last episodes (everything since season 6) have been so bad that I no longer find horse porn attractive.

>>29874279
Some self-centered people really do need to be explicitely told that something is bothering you in them. They may notice that you're bothered by something, but often won't instantly connect that to their own behaviour.

Best friend of mine is a bit like that, and I'm rather on the introverted side of the spectrum. It took me some time to adjust. Starlight's situation was pretty relatable to me, even if Trixie's behavior has been a bit exaggerated (which isn't anything uncommon to this show, really).

>>29874527
Besides the obvious visible stress and the angry growls, it was easily possible for Trixie to have noticed something was wrong. And she could have done it while still acting like a cunt during the episode. It's just bad characterization. The way they played up her attitude made her seem like a complete retard and it put people off. They made her really one-dimensional this episode when they really didn't have to

>>29874634
Arrogance is Trixie's character, not being a cunt.

>>29874730
when you straight up ask someone if something is bothering them and they say no theres no much else you can do.

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>>29874720
As an obnoxious retard with no self-awareness i can attest to this. People can't stand me and i never notice until it's too late

>>29874720
The main problem with the episode in my opinion was the exaggeration of her character. It felt too overdone, like she knew Starlight was pissed and was trying to make her mad on purpose, instead of just being a smug bastard.

>>29874897
>main problem with the episode in my opinion was the exaggeration
this is a fucking cartoon, exaggeration is a major characteristic of the cartoon genre

>>29874789
Anon, her arrogance is nothing else but egoism and egocentrism. Most of the time those qualities are described as "being a cunt". She wasn't making Starling mad intentionally if that's what you're trying to get at, she was just being herself - completely oblivious to everything not immediately concerning her unless she's explicitly told so.

Hell, Starlight got it and literally spelled it out. You still can't get it. It's like Newbie Dash all over again, when people can't comprehend the message a little girls show is sending.

>>29874803
Nobody wants the characters to be autists like you

>>29873445
>>29874562

>>29874947
>when people can't comprehend the message a little girls show is sending
So, somehow people used to get the message in the first seasons, but now everyone is an idiot who doesn't understand the show. But for some reason, that's not the show's fault. Right.

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>>29874944
You can exaggerate a characteristic without making the character seem like a damn idiot

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>>29874963
>not being autistic
>current year
>on /mlp/

>>29874980
>So, somehow people used to get the message in the first seasons
They never did, anon. People always ignored the messages in the show, because most of them were incredibly simple and obvious on the level of common sense. However, now there are more complex messages being sent and there are actual people here who should listen to them, but they don't because the idea of the show actually teaching them something new is unacceptable.

Like - again with the Newbie Dash example - you can't know how do military/sports collective behave if you've never ever in your life been in one. But when the show presents it to you quite accurately - instead of accepting the message and learning the lesson you dismiss it as incorrect because it doesn't go as you think it should despite you having nothing but your fantasies filling your thought process.

>>29874980
>its the shows fault i cant understand simple concepts
wew

>>29875089
Jesus fucking Christ. I'm not sure if I can have a conversation with someone who uses as an argument "the show is good, it's just that you don't understand it." I guess that I can't. Sorry, I'm probably too stupid for your superior intelligence.

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>>29875160
>tfw too stupid to discuss My Little Pony

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>>29875160

>>29875089
You realize a part of delivering a message is the actual delivery, right?
Yeah, you can say that "if you cant relate to x then you wont get it/like it :^)" but when little girls (your ""target audience"") or people who aren't a part of that life aren't going to understand and may flat out dislike the way you explain something, perhaps a re-evaluation of the approach used needs to be had.

>>29875089
>Starlight literally bottling up her anger
>"These messages are so complex!"
kek

>>29875204
>when little girls
Little girls tend to be less of a self-centered prick when it comes to accepting new information.
>>29875160
>Sorry, I'm probably too stupid
Probably, anon.

>>29875252
>"These messages are so complex!"
I have never said that.

>>29875257
If only they wrote an episode where the message was literally "if people like different things than you, it doesn't mean that they're idiots." Meh, I guess that if they never did it it's because you're right and people with different tastes are just imbeciles.

>>29875301
We aren't talking about liking or hating the episode. We are talking about the critique being based on objectively false statements, anon. You can hate the episode all you want - that's your business. But the statement of Trixie being out of character is a completely false one.
Personal preferences are one thing. Objective facts are another.
"I don't like when they show Trixie like that" is an adequate statement.
"I hate that they made Trixie go OOC" is not an adequate statement because it's false.

>>29875400
>We are talking about the critique being based on objectively false statements, anon.
Can we talk about the defense being based on personal preferences and false statements as well, anon?

"I liked it therefore it was good", for example. or "I disagree so your criticism is not valid!"

>>29875400
Is this what you actually believe? "If ***I*** say that Trixie isn't OCC, she is not OOC, and any other comment in this regard is obviously false." Good discussion you have there.

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Ok, I wasn't expecting it to be good but was pleasantly surprised.

>no alicoronation
>Celestia character development
>revisiting old locations(though brief)
>episode was more about Twilight than Glimmer
>genuinely funny
>satisfying conclusion that didn't build up the whole season to be about Glimmer (because she didn't become Twilight in Ponyville 2.0)

Overall, first episode was pretty great, tbhfam.

Second ep wasn't as good (Trixie was the highlight) but it was by no means bad. I think it's a good start to the season, already leagues ahead of the Season 6 opening.

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>>29875400
>my opinions are fact

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>"Just traveling around Equestria on my tour," said Trixie said with an uninterested shrug.
>This conversion was boring her.
>She wanted to get to the good stuff - the part where Rarity would agree to make her cloak again.
>None of this chitter-chatter.

t. Trixie from her book

>>29875475
its a two way road anon.

>>29875471
We could, albeit I have said nothing in "defense" of the episode.
>>29875475
>If ***I*** say that Trixie isn't OCC, she is not OOC
Anon, that's exactly the kind of mentality I am addressing and you look pretty pathetic trying to put these words into my mouth. It was explained - not only by me - why exactly weren't Trixie OOC in the episode, neither of these explanations was a case of "if I say so". You can play with words and memes however long you want - if you don't have actual arguments you can't prove your point. And it would be a pretty fucking hard to prove your point when it contradicts the actual facts from the actual show.

>>29875524
Except I never said "stop liking the episode!"
I have never tried to convince anyone to stop liking what I don't like. I have never said "if you like it, you're wrong". But you have. The whole conversation was

"I didn't like it!"
>"Why?"
"Trixie was OOC."
>"No, she wasn't."
"Yes, she was."
>"She wasn't, it's just that you don't understand the show, and you're wrong."

So, well, if you really need to tell the people with different tastes that they're wrong in order to validate your own taste, well, I'm sorry.

>>29875589
>"Trixie was OOC to me."
>>"She didn't seem OOC to me."
fixed your two way road, anon. dont assume everyone is one person.

>>29875589
>The whole conversation was
>"She wasn't, it's just that you don't understand the show, and you're wrong."

It's not good to lie, anon. The answer was:
>Anon, her arrogance is nothing else but egoism and egocentrism. Most of the time those qualities are described as "being a cunt". She wasn't making Starling mad intentionally if that's what you're trying to get at, she was just being herself - completely oblivious to everything not immediately concerning her unless she's explicitly told so.

>Hell, Starlight got it and literally spelled it out. You still can't get it. It's like Newbie Dash all over again, when people can't comprehend the message a little girls show is sending.
as can be seen in >>29874947

>>29875633
>"it wasn't 'you don't understand the show', it was 'you don't understand the show'"
Now I'm confused.

>>29875658
>Anon, her arrogance is nothing else but egoism and egocentrism. Most of the time those qualities are described as "being a cunt". She wasn't making Starling mad intentionally if that's what you're trying to get at, she was just being herself - completely oblivious to everything not immediately concerning her unless she's explicitly told so.

(You) seem to have problems with reading comprehension, so I've left the part that distracts (You).

>>29875682
Let me get this straight. You assumed that I'm too stupid to understand the show because I completely disagree with (You)r interpretation of Trixie's character. You think that I'm too stupid to even understand your "if I say it, it's a fact". And yet, you're still trying to convince me?

I like bread.

>>29875766
>And yet, you're still trying to convince me?
I am not trying to convince you, anon. I am just pointing out your bullshit. And however much you wish we were in a similar "it's just your interpretation" situation - that isn't true either - you've provided literally zero arguments supporting your point. Your opinion doesn't deserve to be respected or accounted for. You just want to bitch about stuff - not to have a discussion. And even the "you assumed" part misses the point because I've openly stated: "Hell, Starlight got it and literally spelled it out". I do think you are far from being bright, but I do genuinely believe you aren't simultaneously deaf and illiterate to miss that. What I meant was explained in the following replies so I won't be repeating it again.

>>29875873
>I am just pointing out your bullshit.
For whom? I don't give a fuck about your opinion about the characters' characterization. Just because you think "this is what I think, it must be right" doesn't mean that I have to believe you.
>you've provided literally zero arguments supporting your point
But I did. My point wasn't "Trixie was OOC", my point was "I didn't like the episode." You said "why?", I replied "because Trixie was OOC." I don't have to explain shit, I don't have to write a fucking thesis. You said "if you don't like the episode, explain it", and I did it, and just because you NEED to feel that you're right and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong isn't reason enough for me to change my mind.
>I won't be repeating it again.
HA.

>>29872632
If it wasnt for Celestia and Trixie the eps would be boring
again, the mary sues of Twilight and Glimmer cannot be less enjoyable, but other ponied do their job and keep the show quite good

>>29875943
>For whom?
For you to be aware that people know you're spilling bullshit.
>You said "why?
This: >>29874634 is the first post I made. I don't give the slightest fuck what was prior to that. I can list you all of my posts and you won't find anything related to the episode being good or bad, meaning all of the following replies were addressing the "OOC" statement and only that. Moving the goalpost after starting the argument is pathetic, anon.
>I don't have to explain shit, I don't have to write a fucking thesis.
And I don't have to hold a grain of respect to you, who pretends he wants a discussion but not really. That's a consensus of sorts.

>>29876063
>For you to be aware that people know you're spilling bullshit.
Dawww, you're so kind, Anon. Just to let you know in return, your opinions are not facts.

>>29872632
It's realism, Dersh.

>>29876129
>your opinions are not facts
(You) like to repeat (You)rself, as I can see, but that won't change the fact you've got nothing behind these words.
I'll be going to sleep - you can get your last word.

>>29876207
Can it be cherrychanga?

>>29873618
>I'm not writing everything I didn't like in the episodes only to get a "no, they were great :D" as a reply.
I stand corrected, there wasn't any "no, they were great :D" today. But the "ur to stupid too understand mlp" was even better, and I didn't see it coming. GG, great to confirm that it's impossible to have show discussion without resorting to ad hominem.