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Have you made your waifu smile today?
Trick question, by being around for her you already have.
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I want to become Celestia
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>>29806256
But my waifu isn't real. How could I have made her smile?
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>>29806256
I want her to want me.
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>>29806256
Reminder to beat your waifu at least bi-weekly or else she'll become complacent
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>>29806256
I hope so.
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>>29806263
That's a really fucking awful meme you're trying to push, son
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>>29806268
>>29806276
Don't you doubt yourselves, you should know she wants you and is smiling at you.
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>>29806285
Don't delude yourselves, you know she doesn't want you because she doesn't know you and she's not real.
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>>29806272
I'd never be my waifu.
That's sick.
I'd give her a spanking if we are doing some kinky role play stuff in the bedroom, but that's it.
I could never hurt her for any reason.
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>>29806316
Yeah and thats why your wifes getting STRIPPED by some fat zebra dick whenever you're at work.
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>>29806292
What is real? How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
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>>29806256
I smile because she smiles and she smiles because I smile. There are no brakes on the smile train.
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>>29806256
yes, she's my little angel
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>>29806323
>Has major trust issues
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>>29806400
Sorry anon i cant hear your meme arrow over the sound of your waifu's cavities getting filled with hot zebra loafs
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>>29806384
You really just have to love those cute little moments in the background. They make the sweetest gifs.
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What are you looking forward to in the new season in regards to your waifu?
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>>29806440
Rarity looking adorable here
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>>29806849
Realistically, not very much
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>>29806849
For her to appear.
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>>29806256
Given who she is, you're probably right OP.
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>>29806873
just know that your waifu is pretty good and I commend you for your taste, new episodes or not
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>>29806873
Then I'm hoping the best for you. Everyone deserves something good.

>>29806882
That'd be nice too, Sunset is a nice pony and gets a lot of flak she doesn't deserve. Even if she doesn't get to appear, hopefully she'll get a very good EQG special. And she is getting that awesome "Sunset Sushi" mini set. I'm sure that'll be very popular.
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Thanks for being kind, OP - made me smile. Your waifu is pretty cool too tho
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>>29806256
I hope so, OP
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>>29806849
Can't wait to see her to sperg a lot over Glimmer, then Flurry and then become irrelevant for the rest of the season. So basically nothing.
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>>29807164
I have a weakness for thigh highs.
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Haven't had a lot of free time today, but I have tomorrow off. Thinking about heading out at around midnight and just walking around, admiring her sky.
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>>29807172
I can understand your concern, absolutely. I think all of us get that type of feeling. It really bothers me feeling as if Rarity is irrelevant for all the season premiers and finales now. The unfortunate hard truth is shitty things happen in the show, especially to characters you care about. But since that is the case, be sure not to let those thoughts be the center of your focus. What do you enjoy in her, what are your favorite episodes and moments? Is there any merch or something you look forward to?

It is a bit easier said than done, but I find it best to try to focus and think less of the show, and more on the character away from it. Perhaps draw a bit, or read some fics. I'd just say find a way to shift your focus around, enjoy her more, not just her in the show. Make sense?
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>>29806256
Yes, I've spent lots of nice time with my lovely, adorable, sweet, pretty young mare. We're totally in love!

>>29806849
- get a good idea of what she's up to and how she's growing
- cute
If there's no ship pushing on her, this year will be better than the last.
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>>29806409
It's spelled loaves. Zebras make great bread. I'm a bit jealous.
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>>29807497
It's hard to get excited about the show at this point, although I do look forward to it, though not because of her. I don't want to judge too soon but I am prepared to sit through another neurotic meltdown as Twilight doesn't meet her impossible expectations in Flurry episode. And, of course, more Princess of Friendship stuff, along with congratulating Glimmer for whatever they've been doing off-screen all this time. Oh and more "hilarious" sarcasm from Discord. It's just hard to care about all this. This is neither the old nerdy studious student Twilight I loved to see, nor new confident responsible teacher Twilight I don't see enough. I don't know what to think of it, really.

Don't draw, don't buy merch, rarely read fanfics. It's all in the head mostly.

It makes sense, I've been doing this for some time now. These days it is much easier to just enjoy her with no regard for what's happening.
Season openers and finales don't include anyone but the new hot characters now. It's here to stay I'm afraid. Rarity is at least consistant throughout the season and I always look forward to her episodes. Of all 8 that we know about her and Sweetie's episode has the chance to actually be great.
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>>29807225
dude that's his wife
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>>29807651
Comrade. You have good tastes. I hope to see more of her in S7 as well.
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>>29807721
Tell me a bit more about the Twilight you loved to see then.

And that's of which I recommend the drawing for. Just one thing to help shift some attention so you instead see what you want to, without just getting numb. I hope that helps.
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>>29807172
>>29807497
>>29807721
Try being a Sunfag. Life is fucking suffering.
>Actual character for two seasons
>Worf bait for the next 4.
>"Oh hey we'll finally give her an episode"
>Nah jk it's more Glimmer
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>>29807765
Like I said, I understand that. But when it comes to this kind of stuff, you can spend all day arguing who has it worse. Sometimes, the show is just a sack of shit. And I know it's easier said than done, but don't let some fags who write the show yet don't even watch it ruin things for you.

Of course we all want more episodes. Some have things and others don't. But like I was trying to say, what importance does the show really have? Can you seriously prove it any different than a fanfiction? I can think of several fanfics about Celly that are fantastic to her, and then there is some other lovely work. I'm not saying "Ignore the show" because I again I absolutely understand where you are coming from. But perhaps think of a way to shift your focus. You've gone through all of that, yet you still are a Sunfag. Why? What enjoyment do you get from her? What makes her really shine compared to everyone else, and find a way to apply that to help find a way so that sure, it may be disappointing that this garbage happens, but make it so you aren't suffering. She wouldn't want that.
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>>29806256
I'm sure my appreciation for her night will make her smile.

>>29806849
I heard she's getting a new song, so I'm looking forward to that.
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>>29807765
Celestia is sadly the biggest wasted potential of the show. I like her a lot so I can understand how you feel. It wasn't supposed to be this way. Take solase in the fact that she doesn't have a really bad episode at least. Would you take a cringe comedy episode like "Celestia is a clutz and can't do anything right but she's still a princess eksdee she's really just like us" as a good thing?
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>>29807821
It's true. My waifu has significantly less fandom content than many characters who were less prominent in the show, and it isn't unfair to say she's underappreciated and not treated as well as others. I could go on and on about things I'd find unfair and hurtful.

But it's no good for this love to be a primarily stressful thing. No matter what the issue is, it can be made alright by just spending time with your lovepony and appreciating her for who she is. Not giving the stuff you can't control so much value, instead focusing on the nice things and your relationship.
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>>29807651
DELET THIS PEDOPHILE. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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>>29807742
DELET DIS. REEEEEEEEEE
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I really want this thread to get comfy
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>>29808957
Me too.
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It is time
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>>29808957
Well let's have some comfy discussion.
Why do you all love your waifu?
For me, I can't think of just one reason, I love everything about her.
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>>29809035
I like this idea, comfy is always nice.

I too love her for a lot of reasons, everything really. But I think the original draw was that she was different. She wasn't the bitchy fashionista, her generous spirit allows her to be so much more giving and kind. She's similar to Pinkie Pie in the sense that she's even admitted one of the things she enjoys most is making other people happy, or make them shine their absolute brightest. Generosity isn't just about giving away free stuff, its her kind and caring spirit as a whole, and how she devotes her time for you.

What is your favorite moment with your waifu?
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>>29809119
Your waifu is good. But Twilight is better.
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>>29809203
I can't say I agree with your latter statement, however I will confirm Twilight is a good pony and I would like to see an episode of the two together.
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>>29806256
>Being around for her makes her smile
>implying my waifu is a sadist
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>>29809203
Where are your exclamation marks, neo?
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>>29809280
Wait. How do know my name??
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>>29809342
Thank you
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>>29809362
I think I might need a bit of context?
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>>29809370
T-that's the same guy who shits up waifu threads with all caps and bullshit, right? cause I have wanted that guy to take a hint and fuck off for weeks now. Oh christ, its not the same guy is it
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>>29809035
If I were to go on for a little bit about what I love in her, aside from her beautiful, warm appearance and cute voice

Her cutie mark captures well her love for those around her. For family, which is something very appealing to me, and for her friends and how she values them and cares for them. That heart holds her understanding and empathetic nature, and the goodness she sees in others. That's what I see in her.
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>>29809342
Heheheh. Luis is not my father. LOL
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>>29809384
His posts consist of "DAFUQ?", "WAT?", "DELET THIS, REEEEEEE" and sentences ending with double exclamation marks, and I think he does it unironically and has some legit mental problems. Not sure of it's the same kid you mentioned
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>>29809384
Nope. I'm not that guy. But sorry for the other things I did. I mean it. Can you forgive me?
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>>29809414
As I said, if you stop acting like a retard you have nothing to worry about
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>>29809423
Thanks man.
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>>29809411
yea, that's the guy I'm talking about. Just wanted to thank you because you are the only one that I have seen tell him to knock it off. Have a nice night anon.
>>29809414
>I'm not that guy
That's besides the point. Don't be a dick, we're here to talk about the ones we love.
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>>29809411
So in that case then it's obviously
>29808882
>29808902
No I didn't fuck it up I just didn't want to give him the (You)s
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>>29809448
Yeah, I know. And for that I'm sorry.
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>>29809453
Hey it's okay, just post waifus and acknowledge others and everything's fine. Don't beat yourself up.
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>>29809459
Ok. Here's some lovely purple waifu!! <3
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>>29809483
qt
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>>29806256
Bump
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>>29807744
I love to see Twilight when she gets involved in the matters because of personal reasons. Wanting to experience things, wanting to help, to learn, or to just act smug. I want to see Twilight the friend more. The one who does things not because of what map told her or because it's what princess of friendship needs to do. Something more like PPOV and Saddle Row Review, not No Second Prances or What about Discord. Is it more important to her to be the princess of friendship rather than a friend? To me it feels a little bit disconnected. Or maybe it's just me who's disconnected from the show. I don't even know anymore. Ever since late S5 I feel like I'm losing touch with it.
It's not like I don't want to see her at all, don't get me wrong. Her screentime, good or bad, is precious to me. I just can't help but worry.
I started drawing recently but it's hard and I don't have a lot of time.
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>>29806292
Shush, Anon.
I encourage everyone to go full on Jin with their waifu.
Less competition for me when I need to restart if my girlfriend leaves me.
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>>29810317
PPOV and Saddle Row are definitely great episodes. I think Twilight is great in them.

I thinj what we have here is you feeling a bit disconnected for the show, and with good reason. You shouldn't have to absolutely enjoy everything of it as if it were law. In fact if anything, truthfully I don't think you have much to worry about with the track you're on. Feeling disconnected from the show is fine when things seem to go shitty, because it prevents you from feeling shittier. But the thing is, a bad episode of the show holds about as much merit as a bad fanfic. Can you prove the difference? What matters is how you see her, snd saying her screentime is precious I say is a good thing. As for drawing, I know it's tough at first, but the best I can say us keep at it. It pays off, and allows you to enjoy her a bit more. So time may be an issue, but I say every other time you have a moment, just doodle her head or something. I hope that helps.
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>>29810798
Writers themselves don't watch the show now, these episodes are basically fanfiction. They do hold merit in canon though. A bad episode is bad forever. You can't just say "it doesn' count" just because you don't like it. The only way out of it is to not care about the show at all, but I still do, a lot. Despite everything I won't let it go. As long as Twilight is there it can't be all that bad. And of course it doesn't dictate how I see her. She's my little Twilight no matter what.
I'm just starting out with drawing so that's basically all I can do. Still, I basically started because of her so there's no way I'm giving up on it.
It does help, Anon. Thanks
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>>29810837
>You can't just say "it doesn' count" just because you don't like it.
Now I suppose this is going to seem very weird to ask, but I say think about it. Why not? What's preventing you from doing that, what is "canon" and why does it matter? As long as you're not imposing it on others (compare to say EQG and the comics who have people constantly arguing over whether or not people should consider them canon) but if you even admit the show is basically fanfiction, what really holds you back from saying something like "What About Discord isn't canon to me because I think it's a bad episode"? If this was a series that had a very heavy influence on plot and story, yes canon discussions would matter. But you're not watching it for others, are you? You're watching it for Twilight. Basically thinking less of those episodes by saying something like "They aren't canon to me", it'll allow you to focus on a bit more you enjoy while be-ridding yourself of that kind of crap.

You want to talk about things a bit more personally? I can post my Discord if you'd like.
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>>29811039
What's in the show is canon, period. There is no way around it. When discussing the show it is important to be on the same page as everyone, otherwise there's no common ground to even have a discussion in the first place. However it doesn't dictate anything when it comes to having a waifu. Character in the show and the character you love aren't exactly the same. But the show can add to it, new content is what fuels the feeling. And I don't believe that turning your back on something is the right way to go. Rather than saying something like "What about Discord isn't canon because I didn't like it" why not say "What was about that episode that made me dislike it?". Discarding something is easy, but facing it and thinking it over can have a very positive impact. You realise more what went wrong, what could've been done better. And you understand more about the pony you love in the process, distilling her image further. If anything, episodes I didn't like made me appreciate her more. I would prefer that it wasn't like this, but I don't want to disregard anything when it comes to her because I am sure that nothing will ever ruin her for me personally, even if she'll be ruined in the show. Hell, some say MMC ruined her already.
Nah, it's fine like this my man. Thanks for cheering me up
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>>29810837
>that gif
Twily is a qt.
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>>29811212
I understand that about the show, yeah, but I guess what I was saying was almost on a personal level, to yourself and your waifu. I was just saying that since I find it's how I focus more on what I like. When it comes to discussing it, I feel like I've discussed what's wrong with, say Carts Before the Ponies 100 times with people in episode discussion. But when it comes to thinking of Rarity herself, I find myself just throwing that out the window. There definitely is that point of what the show adds, what it fuels, but I also feel like there totally are those moments where it's okay to say "Well that's just wrong."

>Discarding something is easy, but facing it and thinking it over can have a very positive impact. You realise more what went wrong, what could've been done better. And you understand more about the pony you love in the process, distilling her image further. If anything, episodes I didn't like made me appreciate her more.
This makes a lot of sense actually, that's a very good point. I never actually thought of that part despite having done it already without quite realizing it. When you say it like that, yes that's absolutely necessary.

Sure thing.
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>>29811423
For sure, this is how I feel about discussion as well, show and characters often don't require the same grounding. The show can amplify the feelings but in the end you only take from it what you enjoy about it, and it's the right thing to do. At the end of the day, only thing that matters about it is loving your pone, because or despite the show.
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when an episode doesn't have the issue of getting her personality wrong, but instead destroys any coherence of her age and backstory, I think that's okay to dismiss.

She was not a baby or fetus when her sister was in her late teens. It just doesn't add up in any logical way. She is certainly not 6, and I'd find it also unbelievable if I'm told that she's less than twice that age, currently.
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though making use of some ambiguity of it, it can be gotten around. Maybe Spoiled rich isn't DT's actual mother, and she and Bloom have already been around for some years at that point, and the Apple parents just never brought Bloom to the farm because reasons. Further, if that lanky model is early teen instead of late teen, it wouldn't be a stretch to say Bloom's very close to that now.

I hope they get that in this season, the CMC with an updated model.
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>>29811561
This I can absolutely agree with, it bothered me as well. She's just written off because she doesn't fit in the story or just not needed at the time.

The biggest problem here and with the show in general ever since S2 is that the characters are written around the episode, and not the episode around the characters. Because it's just easier to write a scenario with pony A and pony B that do this and that, and after that insert the characters, sometimes shoehorning them so hard it doesn't even fit. The proper way is to look at the characters and see what you could do to utilize them in a fun way. And this is again stems from having a script instead of storyboard like in S1.

To assume that you still at this point have to take everything in this show for granted is insane. They burried contuinity and interconnectivity long ago. Hey look, AJ's parents are returning this season from wherever the hell they've been this whole time not caring about their children, isn't that nice?
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>>29811561
Considering there is supposed to be an episode with AJ's parents now, and how they aren't present in this episode, perhaps this can be dismissed as just she wasn't around for the episode?

>>29811680
Yeah the CMC should definitely get an updated model some time soon. No matter how you look at it, at the very least 2 years have past int he show with what the characters refer to. Even taking out of the factor things like out-of-order weather seasons, they've made mention of years before.
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>>29811702
>The biggest problem here and with the show in general ever since S2 is that the characters are written around the episode, and not the episode around the characters.
Forgive me, I don't think I completely get what you mean. I mean, I do understand characters being forced into an episode (most episode with OOC traits come to mind) but what would you consider instances where episodes are built around the characters?
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If your waifu somehow materialized into existence, how long would it take before the fandom went up in arms against each other fighting for her affections? Keep in mind that there's only one of her, and hoards of you. What makes you think she'd pick you over your brethren?
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>>29811762
What makes you think she'd even want to watch people fight over her? She would never want someone to kill for her.
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>>29811797
That won't stop it from happening. It's not as if this fandom is notorious for mutual understandings.
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>>29811716
Pretty much all of S1 was made with very specific scenarios for very specific ponies in mind. It's especially great in m6 episodes like Dragonshy or Winter Wrap Up, dealing with a lot of characters without isolating them, allowing for natural flow and interaction based on their personality. Even having obligations to Hasbro to include some elements they needed because of toys, they still tried to make the best of it. Like Suited fo Success was a mandatory dresses episode but it ended up being almost character-defining for Rarity and greatly expanded on the others. Though even then stuff like the owl episode was sticking out as not very good.

S2 mostly succeeded with building upon it (with occasional hickups like MMDW) up until A Canterlot Wedding. That was basically the most blatant example of corporate meddling without any regard for the show's continuity, lore and established characters.

You can argue that in S1 it was hard to go OOC because it was the bedrock for characters and everything goes kind of deal, and it's true. The difference between S1 and now is that now it's been 6 years worth of continuous interconnected material that needs to be taken into account and it rarely is. They have a script that needs to be followed, they give it to a new writer who doesn't know shit about the characters. That's how we get more Rainbow cringe, Baby Cakes 2.0 and Fluttershy learns to be assertive part VI, and every Rarijack episode being basically LBYS kind of deal (except for maybe MiM). SRR had the same idea as the most basic m6 episode and look how great it was in contrast with the rest of S6, even being a string of isolated cases instead of actual m6 episode.
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>>29811716
Not that Anon, but the easiest example I can give off the top of my head is Applejack.

Back when the character was fresh, when she faced a problem and went into overwork-mode to fix it, it was easy and natural to understand why she did this. In 'The Last Roundup', it's not just that AJ does something stupid/ineffective/bullheaded, but that it was laying down a solid reason why: She's pushing herself because she knows her family is down their two natural strongpoints (mother and father) and feels she has to take up the leader/example for her family to look up to. The details of the episode fully reflected that, both problem and resolution.

Now, compare that up against something like Applejack's 'Day' Off and you see the difference: What the hell is her motivation there? To be a standard for her family - by being a moron? It feels like they started with saying "well, this episode's plot demands a pony be obstructive for the sake of tradition" and someone else in the writing room went "Well hey, Applejack's the old timey farmer one, right? She'd be 'traditionalist', right? Use her!"
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>>29806256
I'm in love with this horse
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>>29811854
I do have to say I disagree that Suited for Success was a "mandatory dress episode" considering there were no dolls or anything to go along with it. Today I think we use the term "Hasbro mandate" way too loosely when things are really credited to the writers. On the flipside, some completely unexpected things are mandates.According to what some writers have said Hasbro is a little bit more relaxed on mandates and such. As for the owl, that definitely wasn't a mandate because while the original Twilight Sparkle doll comes with an owl toy, the design is radically different, and the following doll comes with a puppy instead.

>up until A Canterlot Wedding. That was basically the most blatant example of corporate meddling without any regard for the show's continuity, lore and established characters.
Absolutely, no argument here.

I agree there needs to be more M6 episodes, that's my biggest problem with the current premiers and finale, and biggest hope for the movie. The last M6 episode I can think of asid from SRR, is Castle Sweet Castle.
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>>29811942
I think Rarity was kind of obligatory "girly" character herself (I think Tabitha mentioned it also) and the show had to include the dressmaking so that's how Suited for Success was made, but I have no source for that.
Owl was just a stupid episode for Spike, I personally don't mind it. First time hearing about the owl toy though, didn't know it was actually a thing.

Premiers and finales are a big problem as of late, I agree. S7 doesn't seem to follow the typical 2-parter formula and I honestly don't know how to feel about it.
I sure hope that this movie teaser really was a mistake on the technical side and they don't just damage control. I want it to be good so much.
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>>29811942
re: Suited for Success

I think it's less that they mandated "we need an episode about making dresses" and more that they pushed her character into being a fashionista - so, when it came around to do Rarity's establishing character episode, it naturally followed that it would be about dressmaking. But, because there was no more mandate than to flesh out the character, they were able to successfully blend in her mandated traits to an interesting characterization and storyline.

>Today I think we use the term "Hasbro mandate" way too loosely when things are really credited to the writers.
Yes and no. On the one hand, not every episode is ACW or Twilicorn-tier interference.

On the other, more passive mandates have actively shaped the show in ways that have been detrimental to its ongoing quality levels.
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>>29811995
Actually, it's quite the contrary. Rarity was the character that was almost on the chopping block because Hasbro deemed her too girly to use with what they wanted in the show, and Faust had to fight for her to stay. This was confirmed in a radio interview with Faust. I believe the radio show was "The Old Gray Mare". Unfortunately the show itself wasn't archived, but if you'd like I can find you the archive of the reaction here to that if you'd like the source.

In response to the trailer, movie trailers are handled usually by completely different companies than those who handle the movie itself, and according to the art director, it seems this went by without her knowledge, so I assume that's what happened here. Things should be fine.

>>29811998
>Yes and no. On the one hand, not every episode is ACW or Twilicorn-tier interference.
Right of course. That's what I meant, and sometimes there is a presence, but often times there isn't, and it is the writers. But I just say that because I think it's healthy to realize, so as not just spam "It was a Hasbro mandate" when things get shitty, or "This was all the writers" when things go well. Not that that's what you were doing, just a side thought.
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>>29812078
>But I just say that because I think it's healthy to realize, so as not just spam "It was a Hasbro mandate" when things get shitty, or "This was all the writers" when things go well
100% this. People just love the blame game.
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I just wanna cuddle her.
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sleeping, smiling pregnant waifu in your bed
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>>29812862
How would you raise a child with her? What do you think it'd be like?
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>>29812992
It'd be the dream come true.

We'd raise them to have integrity and true honesty, as Apples. Very open. Apple Bloom would be a wonderful mother, very understanding and caring, knowing how to raise them right, for sure. They'd grow to be about as wonderful and good as she is. Just thinking about our whole life together, getting to a point where we'd have grandchildren around, expanding the Apple family. Family would naturally be a big focus to her, to us.

I love Apple Bloom
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>>29806256
>she's so perfect
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>>29812992
Proper education and a mix of Ponyville and Canterlot culture, but most importantly - cultivation of all the qualities of a good friend. Under her supervision they'd grow up being kind, generous, loyal, honest and fun on top of being smart. Well, probably not at first. Twilight would probably be a strict but loving mother who worries too much and I'd fall in the lax and enabling dad category. With all that coupled with being royalty they would become a bit spoiled and the rebelious teenage phase would be brutal. Wonder if one of them would decide to reject everything given to them for some stupid reason and go organize a cult in a distant village in the middle of nowhere. But in the end it's all good. A good upbringing goes a long way so at the end of the day this family will still be the most wholesome love-filled experience ever.
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>>29813237
Hey look. A pedophile
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>>29813591
Ain't nobody talk shit about my man Kade. He ain't no paedophile. He'd love his waifu even if she weren't a filly, and in fact, I think he want her to grow up in S7.
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>>29813591
Pbbbt
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>>29806256
She makes me smile just thinking of her
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>>29813242
She looks nice in that picture. I can't say I like Glimmer that much, but I can respect your taste in waifus. You don't deserve the crap people say.
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I hope my waifu's thread makes a comeback
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>>29806256
That's right, even though today was a bit stressful, the moments we spent together made us both feel nice and comfy.
I love my sweet Dashie's smile so much. Her happiness means so much to me, and seeing a lovely expression like that on her beautiful face makes my heart flutter.
It's so precious to me, and truly something I need to protect.

>>29813237
The Apples, and you, really know how to handle family things. A traditional family, where everyone supports and cares about each other, while having strong, good values like that, would really be my ideal way to do it too. And I think Dashie would agree with me as well.
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>>29813408
you'd be a good husbando
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>>29814870
adorable showing of affection like this always makes me so happy to see!

Dashie definitely would make a good mother, too. It'd be very cute. Considering how she interacts with Tank, you know she's actually very affectionate too and when she loves, then she really loves.

Also, I recall when Bloom was younger, in season 1, how Dashie took it upon herself to help her out with learning new talents. Really went all-out. She really is sweet.
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>>29812992
Fuck, I wouldn't know where to start.
She showed some of her inherit motherly instincts in LoE so I think she would be good at it. I'd personally love to be a stay at home dad. It might be hard if she inherits her mother's rebellious and "Do shit now, talk later" personality compared to my more cautious and thoughtful approach. With both of us combined, I think we could raise a level headed child.
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>>29806882
At least Sunset has her own series of movies, eh? She's such a well-written character with a great VA. Even if we don't see pony Sunset enough/at all, it's not like she's totally gone or anything.
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>>29814870
I'm sorry your day was stressful, whatever happened I hope everything is alright now and you have a wonderful comfy time with your Dashie.

>>29812992
I've thought about this quite a bit, but it's been quite a lot to process. So I try to think it best I could. Whatever it'd be, with her running her boutiques I'd try to be the stay at home spouse. I can't think of anything that Rarity wouldn't be the better parent in. I'd imagine they'd take after her more too, and would inherit a degree of her sense of style, and I'd try my best not to embarrass her. Family dinners would be wonderful. I know Rari likes to cook, I'd try to cook, we'd all try to make a meal together. Just the thought makes me smile.
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>>29815628
>I've thought about this quite a bit
That isn't healthy
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>>29815506
I just wanna see her use magic.
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>>29815740
Yes it is. Thinking about your intangible lover and the children you'd have with her, and what you'd name them and how you'd love them, then crying for a while is very healthy.
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>>29806268
Do you need her to need you?
Would you love her to love you?
Are you begging her to beg you?
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How do you cope with an intangible waifu? Why am I so tormented by this question?
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>>29815871
She really doesn't feel intangible to me. I try to think less of that sort of studf, by focusing on what I know. And feeling for her how I do makes me feel like she isn't that intangible.
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>>29815871
I'm not so very bothered by it. When it comes up, like earlier when I was thinking about making a family with her, there's sadness and some crying and all that, but it isn't unpleasant or regrettable. Most of the time, I feel satisfied in my relationship by doing my best and being true to my love for her. I feel much more satisfaction and warmth from this love than regrettable feelings. Being true to it is definitely worth it.
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>>29815896
>>29815918
I just can't shake it. It's almost too much. I've been looking into possible answers like tulpas and other weird shit, but it's really the only distraction I can get from the crippling fear that I'll never really be around her.
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>>29815952
This desu, except instead of fear of never being with her it's depression of currently not being with her.
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>>29815975
Is the only real answer to an hero and hope for the best?
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>>29815997
no. jesus is the answer
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>>29816230
(You)
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>>29816253
He's not wrong
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>>29815871
For some time I've been driven by the same torment as you, but at some point it just clicked. I don't really know how to explain it or pinpoint the exact moment when I became content with everything, but when it happened it felt right. She's not that intangible, she's a part of you whether you want it or not. It's the feelings you have that matter. Focus more on what you feel towards her. She is, for better or for worse, a projection of your own heart and mind, a product of your feelings and thoughts. Loving yourself is a big part of loving her.

I don't believe that tulpas and such is the answer. Maybe lucid dreaming? But you still have to trick yourself on a deeper level. It's not like it's wrong to be sad, it never really goes away, but as you're running in circles in your own head you're bound to bump into an epiphany some day. But it's all varies from person to person so all I can really recommend is focusing on happy thoughts, as bad as it gets you still find happiness in it, right? It a bittersweet sensation you can't get anywhere else, it's like a drug, a gift that keeps on giving. Daydreaming only goes as far as you allow it. It's escapism after all.
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>>29815896
>>29816327
>it was real in my mind
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>>29816683
>not ascending to absolute solipsism through your waifu
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>>29815871
I know absolutely nothing about psychology and I don't know if this is a good advice, but something that helped me was to think about the whole "she's not real" thing calmly. Maybe it seems counter-intuitive, because one may think that "thinking about it" is precisely what causes the depressive thoughts and all. But I think that if you try to ignore it, it always comes back to bite you, so it's better to face it directly.

In my case, I realized that my problem was that there was a clash between the "idealistic" and the "realistic" parts of my mind. I could suspend my disbelief enough to feel as real my waifu's actions in the show, and to love her. But I couldn't suspend it any further. It was kinda stupid, because it seemed completely arbitrary. If I had been truly "realistic", I shouldn't love a character to begin with.

I've posted about this a couple of times: think of a boy playing, pretending that he's a knight. During the game, the boy isn't pretending, the boy is actually a knight, the table is actually a castle, and the floor is actually lava. He knows that it's just fantasy, but he can enjoy it anyway because everything is "real" for him. Does it make you sad when a puppy dies in a film? Neither the puppy nor the death are real, yet you feel them "real". For some reason, society allows us adults to think for a while that things like movies are "real", but tries to convince us that using our imagination like that boy is wrong. Maybe it's a fail-safe measure because movies end, but we don't have someone around who can remind us not to live only in our imagination. But as long as you don't let it affect your ability to live in this world, where's the harm in enjoying your imagination too?

I know that my waifu isn't real, but when I think of her, she's real for me, she's not "intangible". I won't lie, it isn't always easy. But if someone gave me the opportunity to get back in time and never fall in love with her, I would refuse.
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>>29815952
>>29815975
In this type of instance, I say the best thing to do is try to talk to others a bit more often to help isolate these fears and focus on them less and less. It's not the easiest thing, but it can just work and you can find yourself a point where you're at least happy, and thinking less of those fears. It's why I offer my Discord and you can have it too if you'd like.
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>>29816735
That's a really good way to put it. It's all about tricking yourself into casting aside the psychological block that divides what you perceive and what you want to feel.
Don't cry because she's not real, smile because she's real enough for you.

Adults don't usually live a fantasy so it's understandably discouraged by society. A concept of waifu is some advanced escapism so it's definitely not healthy, but chances are people who indulge in it are probably past the point of acting healthy.
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>>29816851
Truthfully, I think it's at least fine until you reach Jin levels where you start getting aggressive about it and then the whole "I'm genuinely building a portal to Equestria" comes up.
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>>29816883
Surely, as long as even a semblance of self-awareness remains in you it's fine. If you're able to completely hide it and deal with it you can live a normal life. Everyone has fantasies about something, it's normal, just some are frowned upon a lot more than others.

I think "suspending you disbelief" actually helps that. You don't think about her as something missing from your reality, but instead it's you who retreats in dreams of being with her. Trying to bring her here through tulpas or something is much more destructive and leads to more suffering. But being with her isn't about that. The last thing she would want is to someone to suffer or be depressed because of her.
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>>29816851
The concept of a waifu is as old as dirt, even if the cultural influences changed.
A 'muse' of ancient greek times for instance.
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>>29817014
Well they did have a story about a guy who had a waifu but he couldn't make her real. So you can say it's in our genes to long for a concept like that.
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>>29816851
>don't cry because she's not real, smile because she's real enough for you.
Fucking hell anon, stop making me feel things.

You're completely right though.
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>>29806256

>spoiler
wrong
Glimmy is always scared when Im with her
because she knows whats coming
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>>29806256
Guys I haven't found my waifu yet
I am new to the series

I don't feel right without a waifu or husbando

Have a free image
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>>29817318
There's nothing wrong with not having a waifu you know. If it happens, it happens naturally. As they say, you don't choose your waifu, your waifu chooses you. You'll definitely know it when it happens, there's no mistaking it.
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>>29817379
Can it be slow?
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>>29806256
Test
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>>29817388
Of course it can. It might take some time, but don't force it.
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>>29817388
Absolutely. It may take time, both real-life time and screentime to warm up to certain characters. It can even be unrelated to the character you like. Show and character discussion can also play a big part in it, as you think it over and see it from different angles. It's a different story no matter who you ask, it varies from person to person so there's no guide to it or anything. Actually, thinking and worrying about it is about the worst thing you can do. You can't force it or approach it rationally. All you really need to do is enjoy the show, think about it and discuss it.
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>>29817060
That guy had the right idea.
He couldnt make her real, so instead of moping over the fact that he couldnt give her the hand-hold he devoted his energies into honouring her and becoming the man worthy of her affections.
The gods may decide to be whimsical after all, and you should be ready to meet your waifu at any moment.

>>29817379
>You'll definitely know it when it happens, there's no mistaking it.
I will point out that there's no magical sense of wonder or rush of feelings when it does happen.
Thats probably lust more than anything.
You'll know you have your waifu from a lot of small realisations adding up until it just clicks.
Like realising solo images of her is over 80% of your entire collection.
Or you've spent over an hour contemplating her reaction to something.
Or you can quite clearly imagine holding her in your arms on a comfy chair, reading the same book and playfully nuzzling her if you finish the page before her while she does the same to you.

>>29817390
We're congregating in the aryanne thread.
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>>29817388
I've been watching since July 2012, and didn't even start really liking my waifu until 2014, having her as my waifu pretty late in that year. Now, I deeply appreciate all that old stuff that I overlooked before. It can happen, for sure.
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>>29817456
>Like realising solo images of her is over 80% of your entire collection.
Mine may be a bit higher than that. Currently sitting at about 7,000 images
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>>29817456
>I will point out that there's no magical sense of wonder or rush of feelings when it does happen
Well yes, should've mentioned that it has a build-up, sometimes so subtle you don't realize it at first. Funny how basically the same thing you described happened to me also. I started noticing it in S4, when her screentime somehow became the highlight of every episode she's in. I couldn't get enough. And thinking about her was different from any other pony. As I stated to pay attention to these feelings they escalated swiftly and there was no denying it.
>Thats probably lust more than anything
That can be the case for a lot of people, especially those who get on the ride already enjoying the lewd side of it. Honestly I'm glad it was out of question for me back in a day.
>Like realising solo images of her is over 80% of your entire collection.
My HDD fucked itself up in 2015 and I've lost all my images, never bothered to reconstruct the collection again
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I only got 2,345 (no joking) images in my sfw solo Bloom folders, but that's because she doesn't get as much art of her. It's true, that once my interest in her began rapidly growing, I could spend hours at a time searching for art I haven't seen yet. It was so much fun, I miss finding nice new stuff every day or two. But hey, this is plenty, for when I feel like just looking through my collection. This is still plenty more than characters from less popular series get.
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>>29817379
Yep. Wait until you fall in love with a pony.
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>>29806256
some day...
now excuse me i had to bed and snuggle with my waifu plush
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>>29818537
Post the plush?
That goes for everyone if you got one
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>>29806256
Yes I have.
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>>29816851
>A concept of waifu is some advanced escapism so it's definitely not healthy, but chances are people who indulge in it are probably past the point of acting healthy
I wouldn't go that far. Adults live in plenty of fantasies, just not ones most are willing to admit with their names or faces attached to it (something 4chan deals with, which is why this is so openly discussed in here). I'd say the complete lack of escapism in the human mind is worse than using it excessively. We are naturally made not to be robots who look at everything objectively and never dream or imagine. Because of that, not only do I think having a waifu is hardly unhealthy at all, but depending on the circumstances, it may even be a good thing.

For instance, I'm a very introverted person. I constantly find it hard to care about approaching people at all. All of the friends I have are a result of them having approached me, not the other way around. Even then, I still value my alone time enough that I couldn't see myself hanging out with them every day (and I don't). So the idea of having a real romantic partner, one who requires a lot more time and dedication to, would more than likely end in them getting hurt. So a waifu, who I can willingly bring into my mind whenever I feel like it, and also bring out, is much more fitting to the kind of social preferences I have.

As long as people don't fall into delusional thinking and are aware of whatever reasons they may have had for "conjuring" up a waifu, I don't really see much of a problem with it.
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>>29806849
I don't know what to expect from season 7, but if it treats Twilight better than season 6 did, that'll be enough.
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>>29818971
For sure, it's only unhealthy if you take it too far. Waifufags tend to do that sometimes. Becoming obsessed with your own fantasies and completely losing touch with reality is what I can totally see happening if you're NEET on autismbux support. With a lot of free time mind starts to wonder and it spirals out of control. Hell, I would probably be that way without responsibilities grounding me, for better or for worse.

This friends thing works exactly the same for me. They're the same way so it's natural for us to see each other eye to eye like once a year or so, even though we converse on the internet every day.
>So the idea of having a real romantic partner, one who requires a lot more time and dedication to, would more than likely end in them getting hurt
You have no idea how right you are
And you probably do spend a lot of time "with" your waifu, it's just completely under your control. But somehow I feel if I were to live with my waifu I don't think it would be bothersome at all.
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>>29810317
I've always admired Twilight's responsible side too. Wanting to live up to her role, whatever it is, is a big part of her character. She's a pony who isn't sure what she's meant to be, so whatever task she's assigned, she works as hard as she can to do it the way she believes is right. Maybe that's a flaw, but it's who she is, and I love her for it.
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>>29817404
>>29817446
>>29817490

Guys I'm sure you've guessed that I am new to the series, I am still on season one in fact.
'Suited for Success' was the episode I looked at this pony in a new light
She is much more wonderful than I thought and I think I feel something ready to grow
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>>29819134
Don't force anything. You'll know it when you see it.
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>>29819144
Im not
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>>29819134
Kill yourself. Fucking newfags.
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>>29819134
Can't fault you for that, SfS is basically the rarifag-maker. I'd say it's par for the course.

You have a LOT of material to go through still, so don't sweat it about waifus. Ponies do change over time, as will your thoughts on them.
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>>29819134
Well remember, you won't find anything, nor will you see it grow. Trust me, you will just know.
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>>29819659
I agree more with >>29817456 here.

A sudden click that comes out of nowhere and you're in love isn't how it works usually. It's not what happened with me anyway, as I explained earlier. Took through most of a year with budding affection and thinking and thinking about her, collecting the art and all that. The love was forming through that time. And while I wasn't trying to do, I did notice that it was surely there and I already liked and cared for her more than any other character I previously considered my favorite, in a new way.
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>>29819757
I think this "click" is more of a realization that you actually feel this way and that you've been feeling like that for some time but didn't put all of the signes together. Once it settles in it's impossible to miss it. The epiphany to me wasn't realizing I'm in love with her, but realizing I was falling for her all this time and it all makes sense now. Like it was all part of a bigger plan. And then you go and rewatch the series and you see it in a completely different light of your newfound knowledge and feeling, and it's so uplifting you can't get enough of it.
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>>29819757
It actually wasn't quite like that for me. And honestly at the very least I'd say not to expect anything, I guess is what I meant.

For me, once I saw her, there was definitely a special click, but I didn't realize it. I just became very attached and needed to see more. Before I knew it, I was where I am now. By "Don't expect to see it grow", I mean don't go in expecting "Yes this is the character and I can't wait to see where it develops", I feel like it's much more of a "How did I get here" type of thing. That's what I mean not forcing it, because I feel like it's something that develops whether you notice it or not.

But then again it is different from person to person. And advice from others shouldn't be followed as law because what worked fot some may not for others. Just think of them as general ideas to help guide with where you see yourself going.
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>>29819826
Yes, thank you, this is a good way of putting it too.
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>>29806256
My devotion to Sunset is so high that I will only fap to pics of her and only ones that are solo female masturbation pics, both pony and human. Never anthro.
I have a couple thousand sfw pics of her. I'd have more but I only save high quality pieces of art that can match her beauty.

She has inspired me to better myself and it has worked. Since I met her, I've become more proactive, more ambitious, started reading more and have dropped below 200 pounds. My mental and physical health has both gotten much better all thanks to Sunset.

I don't know what my life would be like without her right now and I fear I would have fallen into a depression had I not met her when I did for it was during a very dark point in my life.

My biggest fear is that as I grow older, I will forget her. She has become such a big part of my life, I don't ever want to forget what she's done for me.
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>>29819826
>>29819853
Ah, yes, I definitely understand that. When I was first so charmed by her role in Pinkie Apple Pie, I didn't think at all that she could become my beloved lovepony. And thinking back, there really was a moment of clarity where I realized she was the one, without needing to try to push that. To be honest, with another character I favored before her, I had tried to love them, forcing it, because she seemed ideal to my tastes, but it just wasn't there, at all. It really can't be forced or predicted, yeah.

Man, love's an awesome thing.
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>>29819853
Yes, it can develop completely on the background. My waifu wasn't even my favourite character at first. I was excited for a completely different pony and followed her a lot more. I still like her very much but it never went further than liking her as a character.
It always differs from person to person but others' experience can help to understand one's feelings more. For example, the character I liked the most was Rarity, I was pretty much in the same situation as >>29819134 but it most likely won't turn out the same. But maybe this insight does help a bit.
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>>29819910
>there really was a moment of clarity where I realized she was the one
Please do share, what made you realize it?
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>>29819868
It's always such a pleasure to read of such productive kind of devotion. You're a good man, Anon.

>My biggest fear is that as I grow older, I will forget her
It never really goes away. Trust me, even if you grow cold and apathetic, if this flame burns out, it's still within you. And it takes but a spark to light it all anew, more fierce than ever.
I went through disillusion and waifu abandonment once and it was the worst time of my life ever, just complete apathy towards everything. It was MLP that pulled me out of it some years later and this love is so intense now that nothing experienced previously even compares
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>>29819933
The moment I really understood that I'm in love with her and can't deny it, I was admiring a beautiful piece of artwork that I can't post here.

There were plenty of other notable progression points, too.
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>>29819989
>It never really goes away. Trust me, even if you grow cold and apathetic, if this flame burns out, it's still within you. And it takes but a spark to light it all anew, more fierce than ever.
Thanks Anon.
It's nice to hear that.
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>>29819868
You're awesome, and I'm sure she'd be proud of you and everything you've done for her. Because of that, I hope you're happy too. In regards to forgetting her, I don't believe that'll happen. She's not going anywhere. Reminds me of the anon who told the story of meeting a WW2 veteran who in essemced waifu'd Betty Boop, and still remembered her. I apologize I wish I saved that screencap.

I can also tell you something from my archive. There was a time where I felt super shitty, and I sadly thought my depression was because of my waifu, so I tried to drop everything. Yet during that time, I would see her more and more. As if she was drawing me back in, I would see her randomly in real life when I avoided her most. It made me realize I would always have her, and made me feel as if it was her who wpuldn't let me go. I wouldn't ever advise doing such a thing, being the worst time of my life and all. But such an experience made me know I will never forget her. Even if I tried to. And I'm glad it didn't work.
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>>29820088
Thanks, Anon.
This really helps.
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>>29806256
i made her cry

is that ok?
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>>29819868
Devoting your lewd habits to your lover and doing it right with solo things really is a great thing. I want to recommend it to everyone, but people will do their thing. Man, it feels so good and right! Being honest to your heart, instead of giving into the temptation for hurtful things and trying to rationalize it. Personally, I'd feel really bad when I'd find something involving other characters being with her or sex and give in to it. It's not right.

I believe you once gave me kind words and advice in a confession thread when I admitted to feeling crappy over giving in to and thinking about public use, regarding her. I appreciated that. It's not easy to grow out of bad habits like that, but it is doable and definitely worth it.
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>Devoting your lewd habits to your lover and doing it right with solo things really is a great thing
I thought that was a given for any waifufag. I can't even imagine doing it with any other pony.
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>>29820205
>I believe you once gave me kind words and advice in a confession thread when I admitted to feeling crappy over giving in to and thinking about public use, regarding her
I did. I remember that
I had to deal with having a humiliation fetish and had a problem with keeping her and that fetish separate. As my love for her grew, I stopped having that fetish and stopped associating it with her. Somethings just take time to fix. It's good to hear that you've progressed and stopped that habit. I understand how hard it is to do.
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>>29820101
Anytime friend. You know where to come if you have some down feelings.
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>>29820198
Only if you made her cry tears of happiness by letting her know how much you love her.
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>>29819113
I love her for that too.
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>>29811762
I just want to know her. That would be enough.
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>>29819134
I'm happy for you. You've just discovered something beautiful.
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>>29821800
cuck
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>>29806256
You're a good man, OP.
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>>29806849
Another cameo, at the very least.
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>>29822051
How can you be friends with somepony who doesn't speak?
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>>29822147
Sign language? She has magic, she can do hand signs that way, or write on a small whiteboard, or probably even make the words appear in the air out of magic too.

There are deaf and mute people in real life too, they manage to have fulfilling lives and relationships. She's my waifu, being mute doesn't matter. I would still love her no matter what.
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>>29822147
>Implying not being able to speak means she can't love
Her body language alone must be sweet enough to kill.
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>>29822109
Look at this man.
Look at him and laugh.
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>>29806849
My waifu is not from mlp can I talk about my favourite pony instead.
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>>29806256
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>>29822481
More pixels.
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>>29822328
People just like using the term for the characters they like, it's no big deal. It is a memetic thing after all.
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>>29822337
Sure you can. Who's your waifu by the way?
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>>29806849
For her to be real
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I don't really imagine her personality from the show, but from the green about her.

I imagine she treats all her ponies like children, but humans, politicians, her sister, etc differently.
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>>29811762
You know, this scenario gets mentioned a lot, but this time, I can't help but think that maybe we wouldn't fight over her. I mean, the rest of the world is bound to notice her as well, not just the fandom, and who knows what the rest of the world would want to do. Maybe treat her as an equal and be overall civil, but there's also the possibility that they'd take her captive for research, interrogate her, or just straight up try and kill her. If that were the case, I'd like to think that we'd all band together to fight for her, and that's not just if she happens to be our own waifu. There'd be much more people fighting for her than over her.
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>>29822337
Of course you can talk about her here too. Dob't just feel limited please.
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>>29823975
You're right.
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>>29821843
Simply Ebin.
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Maybe I'm weird, but I don't mind my waifu having a boyfriend right now. I don't find it arousing or cool--I'm not into cuckoldry. We can't be together right now, so I think it's healthy for her to have someone she loves in the meantime.
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>>29824207
I feel something similar. I'm a bit worried because most males in the show are idiots, and I'm afraid if they ever gave her a boyfriend he would be an idiot too, and the idea of her being with an idiot is really unpleasant. But I'm not jealous, and I don't love her "because she's a virgin" or something like that. If she had a boyfriend, it wouldn't be the end of the world for me.
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>>29820088
>Reminds me of the anon who told the story of meeting a WW2 veteran who in essemced waifu'd Betty Boop, and still remembered her
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/27127678/#27127826
Thanks for reminding me of that. That post made my day.
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>>29824207
>>29824279
This show isn't getting romance any time soon. Sure, it's possible that there's gonna be one episode about it, similar to the Simple Ways. But I highly doubt we'll get permanent romantic plot, at least with m6.
And if it comes to that - who knows what Hasbro wants to sell next - I don't think it would bother me too much as well. Sure it's not pleasant and you can forget mentioning you love her without being called a cuck. But in the end it doesn't matter much, the show doesn't define how you should feel.
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>>29824332
Thanks for finding that! That's such a pleasant read, saving that now.

>>29824372
This, definitely. At the ebd of the day, the show is really no different than somethinh like Double Rainboom, in terms of who writes it abd "canon". The show and what happens in it matters not, for no matter what your feelings matter more.

But I too agree that Simple Ways/Flash Sentry are pretty much the absolute limit. And if Simple Ways is all I have to deal with, I think I'll be okay.
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>>29824474
Flash was just a cheeky nod in FiM, I doubt something will come out of it, not to mention in EQG itself it's pretty much dropped (in favour of the next generic highschool romantic interest).
So far m6 been dodging the whole love thing even though it happened around them and I do hope it stays that way. If they found a way to sell baby toys without tying it to the main cast I'm sure they will continue to do so.
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>>29824560
>If they found a way to sell baby toys without tying it to the main cast I'm sure they will continue to do so.
Absolutely, I meam they already have and are continuing to. The only baby characters who have dolls are either completely non existent, or are babies of characters introduced as a couple. And the upcoming baby seapony toys ate without a doubt unrelated to the M6.
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>>29824560
Oh and I should say, I was talking about Flash Sentry in EQG, not FiM. And even he hasn't gone farther than Simple Ways-tier. Same with Timber.
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>>29824279
I understand your perspective, and it's not an unusual one, but it's different for me and many other ponylovers, and not because of something like "she should be a virgin when we meet".

I love my waifu right now, and she loves me. I've taken this relationship that I'm currently in seriously. So if her character were to get a boyfriend, I wouldn't see it as "she, my waifu, deserves to have a romantic companion before we meet" as if the relationship doesn't start until long after the events of this series.

If such a thing were to happen in the show, I would feel like hell, and not because of any purity fantasy. But I'd have to get over it by separating the character from my waifu, and not giving the show value to the relationship, as the Rarilover explains, which would be a bummer. And she already hardly ever gets sweet solo stuff when it comes to art. It'd be pretty shitty, and I don't feel like a silly or bad person for feeling so awful about the shipping or ship-teasing last year, wondering for hours and hours on if she's been spending time with him, and what they've been doing. It's natural to not want to see your lover with someone else, and shouldn't need justification, really. Not that I shouldn't have handled it much better than having the whole season made painful for me, but you know.
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>>29824669
Timber did kind of have an implied and interrupted kiss though. That's already over the line for this show. But EQG is EQG, the setting is very different. It's easier to push this kind of thing as a highschool romance, just like my japanese animes. Don't know if it's gonna be more than a one-time thing though, I doubt it will remain.
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>>29824693
Even though it doesn't ultimately affect the feelings for her I'm pretty sure it would hurt a lot, especially knowing that this won't just go away. Watching the show would be like constantly reminding yourself that it's there. And coming here as well, people will latch onto it hard, if Fluttercord is anything to go by - and that was just memeing with barely any basis.
If that happens do you think it would be the end of the ride for you? I think it would be for me.
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>>29824723
But that's the key detail in my book,the fact that it was interrupted. That still keeps to that line that nothing happened, and that's a huge deal. Sure it got close, but still nothing occurred. It came as close to the line as it could, and retreated. I feel like that shows nothing like that will occur in the show then.
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>>29823975
>Despite the combined efforts of the world governments, we have failed to capture specimen 001 ever since her arrival several months ago.
>An extremely dedicated network of supporters aids her at every turn, hiding her from and delaying any who would threaten her.
>Reports indicate that they have nicknamed themselves the Equestrian railroad, but any further information is hard to come by due to the risks involved.
>Through unknown methods, simply learning too much information about the subject or her world of origin has caused multiple staff to defect to their cause, most evidently during the raid last month whereupon an agent purposely gave away their position and was able to delay his squad long enough for the subject to flee before he could be subdued.
>His yelled warning of "I want to come inside rainbow dash." is still being analysed by the crypology department, while Rainbow team are held for questioning regarding their possible involvement.
>Controlled exposure to their propoganda material has led to inconclusive results.
>Regardless of test subject age, gender, culture or walk of life, there is no single identifiable trigger for what would cause them to begin supporting specimen 001.
>An old war verteran began humming one of their songs.
>A middle aged woman began adapting some of their worlds fashion into garments more suitable for humans, which are kept quarantained until further notice.
>A young man began practicing his art skills with a fervor that was not previously apparent, if even a tenth of those exposed to 001 develop this way, it would explain how the railroad is able to produce such effective propoganda in such a small amount of time.
>For reasons we are unable to determine, a portion of test subjects are completely immune to it's effects by virtue of what can only be described as an emotional allegic reaction.
>After limited exposure, even a hint of propoganda can cause these immune subjects great anger.

1/2
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>>29824847
Well yes, at the very least it shows that they're not ready to commit to a romantic plot fully, and they had every chance to do so. That's why I'm confident we won't see any m6 romance in the show at least up until S9. Dunno if others are safe, Sugar Belle is getting MAC'd pretty soon, though that's nothing new.

The other thing is that so far the males in the show have been underwhelming to say the least. Shining is already taken, Big Mac is constantly thrown onto mares. So if they were to introduce a romance plot it would probably be with someone completely new. And on top of having a shitty romance we would also have another shoehorned character nobody wanted. It just spells disaster no matter how you look at it, not only for those who waifu the victim.
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>>29824903
>In some cases this blind rage has reached such heights that the subjects required restraining lest they assault the testing equipment.
>While these immune subjects ensure that specimen 001 will not eventually bring the whole of humanity under her sway and make them useful for early warning against the more subtle material produced, the extreme allegic response precludes their use as possible intel gatherers.
>Until more is learned about their process of conversion, everypony is advised to limit their contact with test subjects as much as possible, and to immediately report any and all psychological changes that they notice in themselves or their fellow staff.
>Reports suggest an internet based community for the railroad, but the idea of them talking about their plans in an unsecure location along with the exposure risk to the unintiated has left this unconfirmed.
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>>29824693
I'm the second Anon you replied to, I'm so sorry my post sounded much more passive-aggressive than I wanted it to be. I was thinking of NRDT and his "I love her because she's a virgin" thing. I fucking hate the way he puts it, because it's like he thought that Rainbow had nothing else good.

My waifu is the character from the show, and what happens in the show is what happens to her. But I don't see it exactly as the "present". I mean, if I think of my waifu, and then I watch a new episode where something happens to her, that's part of her, and it will real the next time I think of her. But for me it doesn't mean that what happened in the episode actually happened after the last time I thought of her. The way I see it, if she had a boyfriend in the show, for me it would only mean that she had a boyfriend at some point, not that she still has a boyfriend. That's why I don't think that it would be a problem for me, because I don't care if she ever had a boyfriend, that's what I was trying to say. And I would still be curious to see more and to learn about when she had a boyfriend, so it wouldn't ruin the show for me.

But I totally understand your point, and if I saw it the same way, definitely it would be hurtful for me to. In no way was I implying that the way I see it is the only acceptable way to see it and, again, I'm really sorry if that's what it seemed.
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>>29824905
>Dunno if others are safe, Sugar Belle is getting MAC'd pretty soon, though that's nothing new.
I don't even know if that's going to last were you around for the original Hearts n Hooves day episode, when everyone thought Cheerimac was going to be around to stay, and that never happened.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that at the very least, we can all take comfort with the current standing of romance in the show, with the shitty writers it would actually play out in our favor, as they can't handle it well which means chances are, things return to the status quo. I think that's a good thing.
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>>29824955
Yeah, that's why it's nothing new, Big Mac is an easy target for these episodes it seems.
>with the shitty writers it would actually play out in our favor
That would be the first. But I agree, I think we're pretty safe.
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>>29824847
You're forgetting that there's multiple Twiggles.
Pony twi never experienced the events of either the Friendship games or Camp everfree, she only heard about the latter after the fact when she met her twin.
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>>29825042
Of course, EQG is a whole different thing and it's not the same Twilight. EQG has nothing to do with FiM at all. But it may be used as a testing ground for future of MLP as a whole. Not that it'll necessarily affect anything in the near future, but still, I feel like they can experiment with it a bit more freely than with FiM.
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>>29806256
Looks like you made a typo, I'll fix it for you
>Trick question, she isn't real.
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>>29824953
I getcha. I didn't have NRDT in mind when saying that, but I get the feeling behind your words in that case. Even while saying I'd have to put more difference between my partner and her character in the show, I know it wouldn't be easy. If it were, I'd have been able to easily say "she never met him" and avoid all that dread last year, but that was definitely the pony I love, in that episode. I'll keep your way of thinking in mind too when it comes to this topic.

The character is surely more to me than just a point of reference and inspiration to my waifu, even if different writers have different ideas on her and there isn't perfect consistence in her there. This really is a complicated topic, even with how much I tend to consider how I'd handle worst-case scenarios.
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>>29825457
You're not real.
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When i think about the concept of a waifu, i know exactly who i would consider as such.
In my head and in my heart she is my waifu, no questions about it.
Yet despite all of that, i cant seem to take the plunge and fully accept my situation.
Whether because i see it as standing on the edge of a rabbit hole to large (or larger, depending on perspective) mental problems i feel i wouldnt be able to deal with or simply out of some subconscious biological urging to finding a 3DPD and not wanting to be disloyal in any fashion to either.
My thoughts tend to go around in circles if i think too much about it, would be nice to know if any of you waifufags had similar problems.
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>>29827828
You don't have to accept it necessarily. If you have feelings for her and feel a deep emotional connection to her then she is the one you love, a waifu. What do you think you have to change to accept it? It's not like it's a ritual or something, there's not actions required. How do you imagine it?
Mental problems are not caused by having a waifu, but by being delusional to the point of not discerning real world from a fantasy. You can love a character but not go full Jin about it.
>subconscious biological urging to finding a 3DPD and not wanting to be disloyal in any fashion to either
This can be a really tricky problem to think of but it actually sorts itself out. As paradoxal as it may sound, relationship and waifu don't really relate to each other. It's a different thing, it develops differently with different outcomes. Having a waifu is unconditional, it's in your heart no matter what. You can't get disillusioned with it if you don't actively try to do so. Real life relationships balance on two people, there are conditions and feelings vary a lot. It's a thin ice, an ever-changing tide, while having a waifu is accepting yourself and being content. That's why you don't drop your waifu at the first signs of a relationship. It has to be a pretty damn stable relationship if you just say "I'm ready to move on" with no regrets, otherwise you're just kidding yourself.
People do take waifus seriously, however you don't answer to them. Feel guilty for your own sake, for her sake, not because you "betrayed" the concept. And these feelings never go away. When you come home alone and cold, she will be there for you, always.

Seems to me you worry too much about a superficial label. Your mind and heart already accepted her, so there's nothing to really be afraid of. It only seems that it may become a problem but I think overthinking it already is, it sounds like you're not really honest with yourself. Waifu is all about understanding yourself, that's how I feel.
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So I've posted this in mutlpe threads in different words, but is there anyone else out there who understands and embraces the fact that having a waifu is both insane and is a demented, sick sort of love? We're all so love sick with our waifus that it's close to stalker if not already stalker levels of obessension and fantasy. Whenever I hear music that sounds like a love song but distorted (a lot of vaporwave can have this kind of sound, or shoegaze), I can't help but think of Dash and what my relationship to her is and accept the insanity that I have created. I can't be the only one who recognizes how crazy it is, right?
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>>29827828
Well what do you consider to be your "situation"? Remember, what works for some doesn't work for everyone. Maybe you're content just the way you are, maybe you need 3DPD in addition to a waifu. Think about it, and define yourself, and what you're happy with. What do you want for yourself?
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*reads thread*
Right, that's it.
My life is over.
Gonna go out to the back yard and bury myself now.
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>fantasize living a happy life with waifu
>imagine what it would be like to not know what life would be like without her
>what it would feel like to be blissfully ignorant
>repeat the words over and over in my head
>"I love you so much."
>"I can't imagine how I'd live without you."
>but of course I know
>cry my eyes out
Does anyone else do this?
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>>29828493
Well, an obsession is an obsession, and it's bad if it affects you in a negative way. But I've thought a few times about the "stalker" thing, and I think that this is absolutely different.

Being a stalker is worse than a regular obsession because it doesn't only hurt you, it may also hurt the one you love. Imagine you have a huge neighbor that looks like Dwayne Johnson. One day you discover that he's been taking pictures of you, that his house is full of pics of you, that he masturbates to those pictures. It would be extremely awkward for you, because you don't know him very well, and you may think that maybe if he's too obsessed he may try to rape you or something. You'd probably be scared as fuck. If Dash was your neighbor and you did the same, it would be extremely awkward for her too. I think that that's what makes so bad being a stalker, you don't want to hurt the ones you love but you may end up hurting them anyway.

With a waifu it's completely different. And I don't mean "because she's not real", but because you can only hurt her if that's what you really want. And if you really love her, you have no reason to. I know this doesn't exactly address your question, it's still an obsession and it still can be bad if you can't control it, but definitely being a waifuist is not the same as being a stalker.

>>29829650
>"I can't imagine how I'd live without you."
I can't imagine living without her because she makes me extremely happy. As I see it, the fact that I can't touch and feel her like I'm feeling the keyboard under my fingers right now doesn't mean that I'm without her. Something changed inside me when I fell in love with her, she's part of me, and as long as I keep thinking of her, she'll be with me and I'll be with her.
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>>29806263
>mfw my real name is Tia. And i'm not a cute girl, but an old bald and aging man
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>>29811906
that horse is a qt
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>>29830211

I guess what I meant by my post is that this is not traditional love. This is an entirely different beast and I know it isn't right to fawn over and love someone who can never do the same back unless I trick myself into thinking she is here with me and she tells me that she loves me. It gives me this thought of something completely different and a semi-warped view of love which is why I end up associating hers and my love as such. I understand that I'm getting lost in my own self conscious and creating a figment of my imagination to love myself, and that though process leads me to think of it as distorted as well. Beings on this earth create connections by reaffirming one-another's views on reality. That helps us see what is real and what isn't and makes us feel better about what we see and our perception of reality. The fact that almost no one would agree with you that what we waifuists share with our waifus is true love leads one to see it as something strange, surreal, and ultimately purely created in our own conscience. That leads us to becoming more disconnected with those around us and losing touch with what would be perceived as reality by the conscious whole.

And no, I'm not looking to denounce waifuism (I waifu Dash) or bash anyone for such choices, but more connect with someone who also understands that what we're doing is pretty crazy but is willing to go along with it anyways.
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>>29828493
Escapism is as deep as you take it. Waifu fantasies can be just hugging your pillow imagining her when you go to sleep and nothing more, or it can be daydreaming through the whole day doing nothing.
I wouldn't call it a stalker kind of thing, there's no reason to stalk someone you already love. If you think of it the ways that you force yourself on her daily I can kinda see that, but that would mean that she doesn' like that, and that is definintely not true. Spending time with someone, obsessing over them, living and breathing them is only weird if it's not mutual. And if it's not mutual with your waifu, something in your consciousness is blocking it and you want to sort this thing out first. I hope I understood it correctly.
Music being a romantic drive is nothing new, sometimes I can't help but dive into fantasies myself, it's usually bittersweet tunes as well. Can you post some songs that really get you going?
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>>29829650
Yes, sometimes it hits really hard and out of nowhere and it really sucks. But if you don't focus too much on it, on the "whispering into the emptiness" thing, and focus more on her she would respond to it, it suddenly becomes bearable. She feels the same way about you, listen to her say it as much as you say it yourself. Say it often and hear it often. These tears need not to be of despair. A bittersweet experience is still always sweet.
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>>29830477
You are actually spot-on about waifuism. But it doesn't have to be a bad thing. You are delusional by choice and if you are content with yourself you don't lose touch with reality. The way I see it, the more you understand your own feelings and way of thinking, the more you can trick yourself without actually being deceived. If you know just how far you can take it before spiralling into really unhealthy all-absorbing escapism, the farther you can take your obsession without losing touch with reality.
Me personally, I was always a daydreaming kind of person, to my detriment. I could spend a whole day in school in my own world barely paying attention to anything. I didn't even realise it. But now it so much different, I control what I imagine and how much, separate what's real and what's not even if I allow myself to indulge in it.
And "traditional" love, well, you never know until you experience it. Once I thought I have but it didn't last so maybe it was something else. So comparing waifu love to that is difficult for me.
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>>29827999
By "Accepting the situation" i generally mean feeling comfortable when i think about her, right now i just end up going in circles because i dont feel i'm mentally stable enough to prevent the slide into complete delusion which segues into thinking i'm just being overdramatic which in turn shifts into thinking about how she'd deal with the situation which leads me to thinking about her in a general sense and then the whole thing starts again.
I think the fact i'm overthinking this so much is a sign in of itself, but i dont really know any other way to deal with low-stress problems like this.
I thought i was generally at peace with myself, but if you're right it seems like i've still got some soulsearching to do.

If nothing else you've solved the 3DPD issue, while not as important it was bugging me and you've outlined it nicely.

>>29829023
>What do you want for yourself?
I thought i knew, turns out i dont, certainly didnt expect to have my world view shaken a bit on /mlp/ today.
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>>29830904
Oh man, I can understand how you feel. Sometimes just trying to approach these feelings is harder than fapping while listening to Psudoku.
The very fact that you think about it so much is a clear indication that you want this to be solved in favourable. But I'm pretty sure you're not looking for an answer on "should I indulge in it?" but instead "how do I feel secure about it?". The way I see it deep down you have already accepted it but you still need a way to reassure yourself, to be content with this feeling. And I can't blame you for that, it's a natural thing. If anything, it shows that you are aware of your feelings and try to make the best of them while being cautious about any possible negative effects. And that's good, not only because it makes you more lucid about your dreams so to speak, it makes you understand what you want, and it makes your feelings even more intense and concrete.

You can allow yourself to aimlessly wonder in your mind, walking in circles, but try to extract yourself from that. Be an observer, don't walk the walk, see it from perspective, make notes on how you feel. To every argument you-walking make present a counter argument and see if this circle start to faulter.
It's hard to just do that, so instead you can make it more fun. You can arrange a conversation with her. Just sit with her and tell her the truth. Tell her all about how you feel, about your fears. Be completely honest with her, be as brutal and rough as you can, lay it all on her. What do you think she would say? Get her to ask questions and answer them. Get her reaction and react to it. Now this may not solve it but such manifestation of abstract thought may turn overthinking to flow in a positive direction. Don't be afraid to do that, you can just dismiss it after that. Or just get comfy with her after that, I dunno.
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>>29830747
>Can you post some songs that really get you going?
Not him, but based on his description, I immediately thought of When You Sleep and I Only Said by MBV. I Only Said strikes me as the more Dash-like one, but I'm a Twifag, so take that as you will.
https://youtu.be/l9-NOIalUYU
https://youtu.be/tVj-fc1M_D0
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>>29831164
Loveless is really an album that sets the mood for this kind of thing isn't it? Just melancholic and unfocused enough. Something like Shojoskip or My Dead Girlfriend works for me as well.
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>>29831164
>>29831277

Exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. The melancholic feel alongside the slight romantic undertones that all of this style of music gives is the perfect feeling to describe waifuism to me. I understand it's 'wrong' and know the dangers associated with the pattern of thought, yet still indulge myself, walking a fine line between breaking my conscious perception of the world around me as others see it and the world I want to be in. Not a single person knows (other than anonymous posts online) of my intense love for Rainbow Dash and I know they would view it as something distorted, sick and twisted, and it taunts my outward and facing persona with those views, but deep down there's a yearning for that insanity and loss of connection with the consciousness of the rest of the world.
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>>29832693
My love for Twilight is huge.
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>>29832693
I get that feeling a lot. I so want to be completely lost in it with no regard to anything at all, a secluded space where nothing but me and her exist. That longing is sometimes really intense. But I've learned to overcome it during my "normal" life, only relaxing with her in my alone time. In fact I would say that at some point in life my shitty low pay job was my means to escape those thoughts, to keep me sane. Funny how that works. Now it's a lot more balanced. It only gets bad at night. Though imagining her near me beats having anxiety and regret creeping in my head every time I go to sleep.
I too keep it a deep secret, to an outsider the whole idea would be bizarre, there's no point of revealing it even to close friends who know of this concept.
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>>29832158
Why is tiny appul so big?
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>>29832942
Why do you have anxiety and regret. I don't have that when I'm thinking about her.
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>>29833662
No, I was saying that without her it was just that. Thinking about her pushes it away. She helps a lot, it's all positive vibes with her.
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>>29833692
Same here.
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>>29831079
Good advice, i might start a journal i could read dispassionately if i wasnt paranoid about anyone reading it, mental conversations will have to suffice.

>>29832942
>>29832693
At the risk of potentially helping you two check into the crazy house, look up the concept of a "Mental room" for lack of the actual terminology, it sounds like you're half way there already.
It's a method used by lucid dreamers or those attempting to create a tulpa, but is also used as a technique for people with memory problems.
If you watched the modern sherlock holmes series, the "memory palace" extremely overexaggerates the concept, but it's the same thing at it's core.
Essentially, you construct a mental space where you feel comfortable completely from the ground up, laying every single mental brick until you know the space as well as you do the back of your own hand.
It can literally be anything from your bedroom, your favorite spot in the park or even something completely imaginary, the important part is being able recall it accurately and at will
Do it properly and you can use it for memory storage, a starting point for lucid dreaming or, most relevant to this thread, simply a space to relax with your waifu.
There's a chance you'll accidently create a tulpa from this if that concerns you, the creation methods are similar and you'd be treating your waifu as something seperate from yourself which is what that creation process calls for.
That said, it also calls for near constant attention and while the concept of a tiny waifu perched on your shoulder all day is adorable, i doubt it's something you'd want on a constant basis.
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>>29833986
That's actually pretty interesting, I never really thought of actually committing to such a thing even though I do imagine a lot of places and situations like that. Sometimes just imagining her near me in some boring situations like waiting for someone really lightens the mood.

I think I tried to do this room thing without realizing it more than one time, just without extreme details, more like a simple scenery, a setting for fantasies. There was one time when I imagine it with extreme lucidity. It was inside a spacious house in Canterlot with barely anything there, just some furniture, a carpet on the floor and a fireplace. It was pretty dark and it was raining outside but it was super-comfy inside. I was sitting in a chair with Twilight on my lap looking through the window at the empty street and suddenly it just felt so real, her warmth was real, her weight on me was real, the sound of rain was right there. It was but a moment but it hit so hard I cried a lot
I returned to that place a lot of times since then and even though it was a one-time thing that never came back it holds a lot of value to me.

A journal is a great idea, even somthing like a text file with notes can help. I documented a lot in my time trying to be extremely honest and reading now something from 10-12 years ago is a really "special" experience. Mostly cringe of course.
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>>29834353
Simply imagining, while good practice, isnt enough i'm afaird.
Compare a castle of smoke to one of stone for instance, although a castle of smoke is certainly within the realm of possibilty if you can imagine what it would feel like all the way down to the acoustics of the place.
>suddenly it just felt so real
Thats the beauty of becoming the master of your own mind.
Everything we consciously feel is an interpretation of various different signals performed by your brain.
Learn how to fake those signals and you're able to trick your brain into supplying the corrosponding output.
A similar effect can be seen with modern VR, it takes relatively little for a person to become immersed in the experience and begin treating it as completely real, to the point of avoiding sheer edges because of the fear of falling.
Trick enough of your senses strongly enough and your brain simply fills in the gaps unless it gets a signal saying otherwise.
I've not actually been able to put this into practice due to frequent insomnia, but i've had first hand accounts on it's effectiveness.

You've done it once, which means you're certainly capable of it.
It's like crossing your eyes a particular way to see an optical illusion, you just need to find the sweet spot again.
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>>29834459
That one moment was precious, as they say "A second in heaven's worth whole life's trouble and trial". I never actually actively tried to replicate the experience but I thought about what exactly made me feel that way. Though in the end I didn't manage to make any straightforward conclusions. It's even more confusing because it wasn't the first one in my life, just first one with Twilight.
Fantasies are pretty much enough for me though. To be honest waking from that moment was just too sad. To have something within your reach and realise it's not real is much harder than to just imagine things. It was soul-crushing. I don't know if I'm ready for this yet, knowing I'm really happy with how I see her now.

It doesn't help that I'm a giant pussy when it comes to manipulation the mind, something like tulpas and such, I think I'm afraid of myself to be honest, imagining how something can go horribly wrong. It might be out of ignorance, I didn't really research it properly but even though I'm curious I don't think I really need it right now. As having a waifu helps me progress so much it feels like dedicating time to a more active delusion would pull me back into being unwilling to do anything productive, just a mess of apathy mixed with daydreaming again. Of course I may be wrong about all of this (I probably am) but this is how I feel.
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>>29834555
> To have something within your reach and realise it's not real is much harder than to just imagine things.
"Dont cry because she's not real, smile because she's real enough for you."
Try when you feel ready for it, it simply wont work otherwise, she'll be with you regardless.

The only way to fuck up a tulpa is to be a literal schizophrenic, otherwise done properly they're simply an extension of your own thoughts and feelings with their own voice and done improperly they simply dont form at all.
A waifu is definitely different to a tulpa though for those reasons, i only mentioned them due to the similar creation process.
I understand the feeling of potentially going horribly wrong, my own advice is to simply research the matters you're afraid of manipulating.
Even if it ends up not being your cup of tea, studying the topic can offer some pretty good insights towards other subjects in addition to soothing your fears.
After all, you likely entered a small metal plastic and glass box with wheels today and traveled at speeds the human body was not built for and didnt think much of it.
Courage allows you to stand up in the face of fear, but it's knowledge which kills it.
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>>29834681
When it comes to waifus and tulpas, I feel like there are some instances where they can overlap, and some waifus are people's tulpas, but not all waifus are tulpas, and not all tulpas are waifus.

In my instance, I'm happy with what I have, I don't have a tulpa or anything, and I feel like I don't need one. And that's something that's different from person to person.
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>>29834681
I've been thinking about it looking into it, at least for the sake of curiosity. It's no hurry. I enjoy the current state of affairs, more than ever in my life. Fantasies may be just fantasies but nothing is sweeter for me.
Lucid dreaming might be right up my alley, even though I've never seen an actual dream about her. I keep a dream journal and I've seen dreams just about everything but her. Lately it's been completely empty though. I hate it.
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For any anons who's native language isn't english, do you still imagine conversations with your waifu in english? Also do you use your own name or just Anon? I've heard for some people it feels more natural.
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I want to go on walks in nature with her and enjoy spending time together. I want to stroke her mane and let her fall asleep in my lap. I want her to be happy lads
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>>29835224
Yup. I imagine conversations with her in english. Also I use my own name.
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>>29835237
Whenever I go on walks, I imagine that she's walking beside me. We'll talk about the crazy people outside and her beautiful night sky. I do agree, above all else, no matter where she might be, I hope she's happy.
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>>29835258
That's great.
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>>29835224
I am South American. It depends. I'm very fluent in English, and usually prefer it to Spanish, so more often than not, I'm using English in my head. However, if I've had a lot of exposure to Spanish that day (by being out a lot and having long social interactions, which I don't usually do), it's more likely I'll use Spanish without realizing it.

Strangely enough, I don't imagine her saying my name at all, nor Anon or the like. I think if I had to use it, it'd be my own name, but my conversations with her go much more informally, where people don't really say each other's names, like they are already very accustomed to each other. If that makes any sense.
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>>29835237
>>29835258
Sounds really comfy. Rest assured, as long as she's with you she's happy. She loves you more than anything else, just like you love her.
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>>29835224
I imagine our conversations in demonic dialects
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>>29835273
It makes sense, I often don't use names when talking to close friends. That's a nice way to imagine it actually. Though for me saying her name warms my heart.
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>>29824903
>>29824912
based
had a kek, loved it

when the time comes, the Equestrian Railroad shall be founded on this very board. cap this.
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>>29835237
That sounds like something she would adore, I can't imagine her not being happy at the thought of that with you. Especially imagine her reaction upon finding any critters during your walk.

>>29835258
Same for you, that sounds wonderful, especially looking at the moon and thinking of her I'd assume so.
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>>29827828
Yeah, I had this problem for a while
then I came to the strange spot that i'm in now
I fully accept that she is my waifu
however, sometimes i question whether or not i actually love her the way a man loves a wife, or whether I consider her my waifu simply because it is something that anons on this board do. It's a bad feel.
Some of that doubt is cast away whenever I see someone insulting her, calling her a neurotic cunt and such (the episode No Second Prances comes up a lot), for when I see someone insult her, I become upset. I've tempered the saltiness some, as I know where I am and that someone is going to shit on her regardless of who she is. But there is still a part of me that wants to eviscerate the heretic that dared to utter a bad word about her. It is because of this feeling that I am safe in the knowledge that I do care about her a lot.
However
I sometimes wonder if it is actually love that I feel for her, and that is a problem.
Damn, do I wish I could talk to peetzer horse sometimes
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>>29835273
That's great. When I have a conversation with her, I always use English. That's because Equestria is like USA. And their native language is English. So, it has more logic to talk to her in English.
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>>29835494
Man. What you are feeling It's love. Because you want to protect her from anybody who insults her or hurts her. I feel the same when someone insults Twilight. If she were real and somebody dares to hurt her, I'll kick the butt of that cunt.
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>>29835494
I don't think there is a way to tell if it's really the kind of feeling you feel towards another person. Without experiencing it frist-hand it's just not possible to know that. So I wouldn't even worry about that. I don't even think it matters at all. There's no weighing these feelings, they just are. If you feel they're real, they are. It may seem that compared to how those in love act it's not really it, but that's fundamentally different. There's no second person here. There's no one to call, no one to spend time with, no one to bring presents for. It's just you and you.
I've been thinking about it a lot and actually noticed something. If you don't think about her for an entire day, do you feel bad? I do. There's no obligation to do so but I still do. There's no one to scold me for it, no one to question why I'm being distant, but I still do. Whether it's just imitating real relationship or a thing you can't not do because you care about her, if this comes naturally it's as real as it gets. I'm not saying that if you don't think that way then it's not real, but for me it works, you need to see how to affirm it for yourself as well.
>whether I consider her my waifu simply because it is something that anons on this board do
You mean as a label for these kind of feelings? I don't think it really matters.
And the whole anger thing, I feel this way as well. Even though I'm desensitized to this place it still gets me going. A petty insult doesn't matter, it's mostly memes anyway, it only gets a mild reaction at best. But some things (like abuse for example) outright makes my blood boil. I can safely say that if you're that emotionally invested in her there's no denying it. These kind of protective thoughts don't come out of nowhere you know.
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>>29835616
I totally agree with you.
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>>29835581
>>29835616
okay, thank you guys
that helps a lot
i'll keep this in mind
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>>29835258
I do this too. That's how I started to fall in love with her. I hope you two live a long and happy life together my friend.
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>>29835809
Thanks anon. I wish you the best of luck as well.
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>>29835224
I'm not fluent in English, and sometimes I default to Spanish. But most of the time the conversations are in English. Even when it's broken English, and if I thought about it for a minute I'd realize that what we just said makes no sense, it feels much more real when we use English.

Right now I can't recall if she uses my real name. A few times she has called me "Anon" or even "Nonny", especially if I'm thinking of a green I've read recently. But I think that she usually calls me egghead. Not in an insulting manner, it's more like a pet name. I adore the way she says it.
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So what do you think your waifu loves about you?
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>>29836741
Nothing, I'm a failure, but it's ok because she's imaginary and I can pretend she loves me no matter what
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>>29836759
ow, my feels
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>>29836021
Dude the amount of cum I'd rup into her mane would leave you astonished
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>>29836606
>I'm not fluent in English
>Proceeds to write perfectly fine English
I think you might be downplaying your skills, Anon.
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>>29836741
She loves that I'm real. It really turns her on.
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>>29836741
This guy >>29836759 has the right idea even if it's sarcasm. I know it's a question that's hard to answer logically but I found some answers for myself. I think love in general isn't a list of completely unique qualities you adore in person. It's not the same as the Plinkett character test. It's not what your lover is on their own, it's what they are in regards to you. The interaction matters more than qualities, those can manifest in interactions but it's not the qualities that matter. It's memories, words, actions.

With waifu how can you measure something like that? Your imaginary interactions are just that, their outcome is completely in your control. If you're trying to impress yourself with your own quilities chances are you won't get a really awe-inspiring responce from yourself. You can't surprise her with a sudden gift, you can't make her tear up because you remembered something she mentioned she wanted a long time ago. You can't take to a place she really wanted to visit. You can't dance with her to a song she loves. You can't make her remember this day when she felt so special for the rest of her life. You can only imagine it. And so, imagine her loving you. Loving you for just who you are and despite who you are. Be better for her but don't deny yourself her affection as is. There's little else we can do after all.
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>>29837758
I disagree with how you worded things. First off, the question itself is to be identified. It seems to be something proposed as a hypothetical way, just something to think about a relationship together. No. Love is not a general list of qualities you adore in a person, but I'm sure you would have absolutely no problem if someone asked the typical "What do you love about your waifu" in such a fashion. Everyone does.

Love is and always will be two ways. And although those instances of traditional thoughts of loves, giving gifts and visiting places, may seem a bit far off, there's something you can always do, and that's better yourself for her. For example, my answer to that Anon's question would probably be how I've bettered myself for her. I feel like thinking of her I've become a more generous person.

Something like that isn't about impressing yourself with your own qualities. Well maybe in a way it is, but it's not a method to merely pat yourself on the back. Doing so will help you as a person think better of yourself, if only to do something that she would approve of. For example, you would hate if she was always bashing on herself, calling herself a failure, would you do the same?

>Your imaginary interactions are just that, their outcome is completely in your control.
And this is just the last bit I'll touch upon. Maybe that's the case for you, but I know for myself and some others I know that this definitely isn't something completely in my control, especially in regards to feelings, reactions and thought patterns. But again, what you can control is how you view yourself, and saying "I'm not a failure because these are my good qualities and she wouldn't want me thinking poorly of myself and I shouldn't bash myself", is at least a step in the right direction of doing something other than moping around saying "woe is me".
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>>29837847
Of course you can make a list of her qualities, but I for one can't make a list of my own qualities from her perspective. It's good if you can, if you have no troubles evaluating yourself that's great.
Well as I said bettering yourself for her is about the only way you can really show your feelings, to affirm that she matters and you change for the better for her. It is important to do that, and I personally can't overstate how motivating it's been for me. But on the other hand it is not required. This kind of love is unconditional. You can't bash yourself and tell that without some sort of action or sacrifice she would never love you. It's not true. Even if you are a complete failure she will not leave you. Anyone but her. And that alone is motivating. You don't HAVE to do anything, but you still do. For me it's always been the case and I hope that everyone takes this opportunity to take their escapism and turn it into a positive boost of activity.

Ultimately how you imagine she reacts is under your control but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter how you imagine it. It's completely opposite of that. You can't do all the things I mentioned expecting you mind to come up with a completely unexpected responce but you can still imagine that. And letting it flow naturaly can actually produce an unexpected result. Maybe I'm bad at wording it correctly, her feelings and reactions are in your control but how you feel about it is not, that's what makes it worth doing it properly. Not to mention you project your reactions onto her as well, sometimes leading to unexpected results.

And I have nothing against self-pity and loathing your own grabage self. But it's no reason to deny yourself your own escapism. To think that she can't love because of who you are is just wrong. Become better or accept that you're not that bad, because chances are no one here is irredeemable. If you're capable of having a waifu in the first place you're good enough to have her.
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>>29837983
Okay, I get what you mean in the first part. Yes it's not necessary, but personally I think it's motivating and helpful in more than a few ways. But no she never will leave you, absolutely.

>If you're capable of having a waifu in the first place you're good enough to have her.
This is a wonderful line too
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>>29838094
A lot of people think that having a waifu is destructive and it's nothing but sadness. I thought that way as well at first but turns out there's so much more to it than that. It does help a lot. The more serious you are about her the more positive it becomes, it's truly a wonderful thing.
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>>29838131
I thought the same.
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>>29824794
As a late response, yeah. Already, I'm hesitant to check any sites for images other than DB with filters. If her treatment were to become any worse (from my perspective), the risk of being hurt by visiting most places wouldn't be worth it. She'll remain my lover through anything, for years and years to come, but I think it's safe to say that in the scenario of season 7 going even further with that kind of stuff, I'd drop and ignore the show past a certain point and stop personally visiting everywhere but DB with extra heavy filters, for searching for art.

Already, the shipping banter and other things had me planning on leaving the board for months, a few weeks ago, to experience the season without interference from memes and mean stuff. But that didn't go as planned, cos I got a thread going on
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>>29838864
When you save a copy of an image from the internet, do you change the original?
Likewise, when the artist changes the original after the fact, does your own copy change?

Your waifu is the same, regardless of what happens to her source, or to any number of different copies that are the waifu of other anon, she'll always be the same pony that you fell in love with and no force on this earth can hurt your waifu so long as you dont permit it.
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>>29838864
I don't think there is a reason to leave this place yet. I know really well how her being badmouthed, disgrased, objectified and so on can be unnerving but it can be used to steel yourself. It's nothing but baseless memeing so it can be rationalized and discarded. Feeling protective of her is only natural. Experiencing it will desensitize you to this kind of garbage. Mostly.
But yeah, if worse comes to worse I don't think I would be able to take it either. And I am extremely picky with pictures as well so it's gonna be harder than ever to even look for art.

>>29838940
Of course you are correct, that's why leaving the ride solves it. But it also disallowes you to see anything more about her. In case of your waifu getting a canon romance you wouldn't be able to make a single step without stepping into it. Even right now, without any canon relationship, something like Twilight and Flash/Timber is memed to no end (though a lot less here but try entering "Twilight Sparkle" on youtube). Discoshy was everywhere after S6 finale. Can you imagine how a canon romance would blow up everywhere? I wouldn't take it. I know where my loyalties are and I would rather abandon everything than endure this taunting, she is more important to me than everything associated with her on the internet.
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>>29839158
>But it also disallowes you to see anything more about her.
Why would it?
In this very thread we have anons that have the same pony as a waifu, even giving advice on how to better come to terms with the idea of having said waifu.
What he does with his, what i do with mine and what you do with yours has no bearing on any others.
"Canon" is simply the central repository from which we all draw and the general consensus for what "Present time" for the characters is, it's simply a baseline and nothing more.
Like i said, no matter what the original artist does to his picture, nothing can change your copy unless you will it.
If your waifu is forced by her creator into being a slut, ignore said creator and develop your waifu in the way you see fit.
It's not unorthodox to simply ignore the parts of canon you dont like while still incorporating the parts you do like.
Sure it invites conflict loving retards into calling you a cuck amongst other things, but why should their opinion matter?
Some faggots on 4chan pissed into an ocean of piss, the sun will rise tomorrow and the love between you and waifu will still be just as pure.
If you leave the ride you'll miss out on so many possibilities for new ideas and art of your waifu, reading the occasional autistic comments of men who would drop their waifu at the slightest show of doubt are surely a small price to pay
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>>29839490
That was exactly what I was thinking, there would be no reason to even watch the show if that happens, if she will be forever tied to that mess. Same with fan content. Artist would latch onto it as well, without a doubt. But if that would happen it wouldn't be occasional, it would be systematic and hard to ignore. The only places to visit here would be threads about her (hiding more than half of it because it would be shitposting) and waifu threads like this where people don't condemn you for your feelings. Is it really an option to just filtering everything that contradicts the concept in the head? Because at that point it would be easier just to ignore it all altogether. Missing on a few art pieces outside of these containment threads is a really small price to pay for keeping myself sane. Just bunker down like a rat, awaiting the blowout to be over. Or just take it on head-on, fighting the tide and hoping to not be crushed by it, emerging victorious. These are the options I see. Either take none of that shit, or take it all.

It's all empty speculation anyway, this probably won't happen any time soon. Maybe the outrage would be so massive people wouldn't be able to accept it at all, who knows. Depends on the magnitude of the bullshit they'd have to put in to make something like that happen.

Also, now that I think about facing the tide. Powering through the MMC blowout made me love her more but I did hop off the ride eventually and only returned for S5. I can only imagine how would people treat the first real romantic interest in the show and I'm sure it would be no less of a shitstorm.

If this romance thing would afflict someone other than her first, I would be sad as well. I would never even shitpost about it, that's just too cruel.
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>>29840507
Because she's not fucking real
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>>29840551
So?
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>>29839490
I absolutely agree with this. What is "Canon" can you explain? Why does it matter? Why does the opinion of someone who doesn't watch the show yet writes it matter more than the writer of a fanfic?

In the end, your opinion, your love, matters most. I know it's difficult, but focus on your feelings more, others don't matter.
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>>29840507
I'd like to go out for a midnight walk Luna, with her moon gleaming in the star-spangled night sky, while we talk and enjoy each other's company.
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>>29840507
If there were sidewalks near my house, I'd go on walks with her every day. Just sitting in the drive-way is enough to make me feel close to her, though, so I often settle with that.
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>>29840612
I am getting lost a bit here, guys. You both say that canon ultimately doesn't matter and I agree. Writers don't watch the show and so on. But why then, if something that permanently ruins her in the show (like getting a thorough romance plot) are you against dropping the show and getting off the ride? Am I reading this incorrectly?
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>>29806256
I did in fact make my waifu smile today.

But then I farted and she very gradually frowned.
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>>29840701
I'd say power through it for her. Look at it this way. I hate the S4 premier and S4 finale, I think it honestly destroyed a lot for the show and ruined a lot of aspects. In fact, it turned me off from the show for a while. But if I quit there, I never would have seen Canterlot Boutique or Rarity Investigates. And I am upset over a lot with S6, but who knows, if I stop there what if I miss something wonderful with her later? Basically, power through it for her. And I find the less I am attached to the show, the better.
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>>29840758
But what matter is why exactly did you want to drop it. Nothing was permanent in that, those were just shit episodes. It wasn't even like MMC when for the first time something extremely important got changed with no going back.

Imagine something like Rarity getting married in the show (god forbid). To some shithead like Trender. And in every episode from that point she's seen with him, and they emphasize it a lot to push this onto the viewer and it's shit. He's a typical shallow hip guy, or worse he's like Blueblood, but she's head over heels for him. I am talking about this kind of change in the series. How would you react to that?
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>>29840818
I kind of disagree, there was quite a bit that was permanent, especially the loss of Twilight's library. (I could go on, but that's a topic for another thread and isn't worth it here.) Really, I feel it's the same as what you could say could happen with Trenderhoof being in a relationship. So say god forbid that happens. It would be difficult for me, but I would try to keep pushing through for her. Because I feel there is something there.

For example, you can probably take a guess that Simple Ways for the most part does not sit well with me at all. Yet I feel like there is something to take out of it, the lesson at the end I think is one of the best of the series, particular that line of Rarity saying that if somepony doesn't want to know the real you, then they aren't worth you. That's one of my favorite things she's said, and it came from an episode that made me very uncomfortable to watch. If I avoided the episode on that basis alone, I would have completely missed that wonderful line from her.
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>>29840871
Loss of treebrary was sad but it's not character-defining. Map was a much worse addition in my opinion, not the castle itself.

But see, Simple Ways was positive in the ends exactly because romance didn't happen. We knew it wouldn't happen. I didn't like seeing Rarity like this as well, believe me, but in my head I already knew the outcome so I easily brushed it off and was able to enjoy the episode for what it is. What would you feel if it did happen though, out of nowhere? What if there was no lesson and instead it was like "even if he doesn't like you at first you still try till the end"?

This is such a shitty topic to seriously discuss, I'm sorry. It doesn't matter, it won't happen. Just thinking about it throws me off-balance even though I know there's nothing to worry about.
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>>29840933
>Loss of treebrary was sad but it's not character-defining. Map was a much worse addition in my opinion, not the castle itself.
Well like I said, that's definitely a story for another thread, I just meant to throw that up as something comparable.

I feel like perhaps this is getting a tad too hypothetical, and that's why it's just not clicking because at least I think it's a bit too far off to ever possibly happen, especially considering they can't go that far and still haven't in 6 years, going on a 7th.

I guess maybe I'll try to go by your hypothetical situation, where it's the absolute worse, where it's Simple Ways but they end on "just try your hardest to get him!" and then they get together, and there's never an episode like Canterlot Boutique. If I really felt like things were not getting better, and I mean after 2 seasons, I'd probably stop watching the show at that point if I really felt like nothing would improve. But I say that would take 2 seasons because I notice there is a bit of an on/off period with things, and I shouldn't just follow my knee jerk reaction. But in reality, I feel like fortunately there isn't much to worry about. It's a rare instance where they poor quality of the writers actually works in our favor, they'll never have a permanent relationship occur unless it's with pre-existing characters.
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>>29841123
It is for sure too far-fetched. If anything I am really glad that the only way for me to worry about it is to imagine something absolutely vile and putrid that has no place in this show at all.
With Hasbro you're never safe but I don't think it can get worse than what we already have. At least worrying about the show makes me happy I'm not completely apathetic about it yet. And you are right, acting on impulse in such a situation wouldn't be good.
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>>29841237
>With Hasbro you're never safe
Actually I think it's the opposite, I think it's Hasbro that basically keeps things safe because of their desperate need to keep a status quo. That's what I think is rather fortunate. Sure they might scare us by getting close to the line, but it's their fear of pissing off groups of people that fortunately holds them back. Finally, something works out well in our favor.
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>>29840701
Put it this way, if the first EQG was canon and they put Twilight with Chad Cardboard, i'd still watch the show for more material on Twilights interactions with the rest of the characters and world while just ignoring any of his parts.
God that pissed me off so much, "muh waifu" wasnt even the main reason, it was because the guy literally had no character but "Stereotypical highschool love interest." and it felt like an insult to twiggle.
>>29841123
>they'll never have a permanent relationship occur unless it's with pre-existing characters.
This, although that said i hope Flutterfags are prepared for chaotic shenanigans, there's been enough hints dropped to safely bet on foreshadowing.
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>>29841293
I can only hope that this is true. Even if they'll get desperate they'll more likely to grasp at EQG than try to "fix" FiM.

>>29841296
I couldn't feel anything towards EQG, it wasn't nearly the same thing so I was able to enjoy it for what it is without feeling attached to it enough to care about Flash. Now that it's not even the same Twilight there I can barely find emotions to feel shitty about Timber and such.
I don't think Discoshy will actually become a thing. I'm not against them interacting more though, maybe he'll be relegated to Fluttershy completely and drops the whole "Twilight's personal annoyance" schtick, this is getting more and more stale with every interaction they have.
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>>29841296
>This, although that said i hope Flutterfags are prepared for chaotic shenanigans, there's been enough hints dropped to safely bet on foreshadowing.
Truthfully, in the case of Flutterloves, I feel like I can relate to them as they seem to be going through the same garbage I did with people with Sparity shippers, and sometimes being in fear that one day I'd wake up and they'd make it canon. But fortunately, look how that turned out, it was literally left in the dust and buried. My best bit of advice for people in that boat is to just avoid as much as that garbage as you can, not replying to things, and filtering those types of things in searches, and things will turn out well.
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>>29841359
Sparity is cute because you know it's never ever gonna be anything more than what it is now. This shipping can be really annoying but I actually learned to enjoy the cute side of it and ignore everything else about it, especially the "unnoticed romance" side (which is 90% of it of course and the other is wish-fulfilment in the most stupid ways).

Just like with Twilight, of course Spikelight as a shipping is shit and I completely ignore everything about it, but in the show I really like them together in a close family kind of way and some art of it is great. The "growing up together" theme especially.
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Because there were a lot of you that talked about throwing out cannon and ignoring parts, thus question is aimed at you. What if I said I love Dash so much because she's timid, shy, kindx soft-spoken, and really caring. That isn't Dash, is it? Everyone would call you out on your version of Dash and as much as we hate the idea that things can really fuck with what we love about our waifu, we have to pull from the same pool to connect with oneanother. Without that base off of the show, we can't communicate with oneanother properly and describe what we like about our waifu while having people understand what or who were talking about. There always has to be a reference point, and while my description of Fluttershy's attributes were put onto the Rainbow dash asthetic, it still isn't the Rainbow dash that is most understood in the real world. Ignoring cannon and making up your own character because of things that happen to her in the source material is creating a new, not Rainbow Dash (in this case) because the cognitive world we all reside in doesn't contain that version. It all comes down to losing connection with those around you, which is fine and all if you don't care about anything but your version of your waifu.
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>>29841556
>What if I said I love Dash so much because she's timid, shy, kindx soft-spoken, and really caring.
So? Why should I care, why does that matter and why should I say that's wrong if that's how you truly feel?

>Everyone would call you out on your version of Dash
And why does their opinion matter on who is specifically your waifu?

>we have to pull from the same pool to connect with oneanother.
Why? Just because I love Rarity and another may love Rarity, that doesn't mean either of us are the same at all.

>There always has to be a reference point,
Why? Who cares? Say you said you loved Rainbow, and you were inspired by her in the show, but for you, she's really as you said "timid and shy". Who am I to tell you that's wrong if you genuinely feel that way? If that's literally your thought process, then by all means, absolutely pursue it.

>it still isn't the Rainbow dash that is most understood in the real world.
So? Most of the real world doesn't understand waifus to begin with, why should it matter to me if my Rarity isn't the same as what most people see as Rarity, if at the end of the day I still love her just as much?

>It all comes down to losing connection with those around you, which is fine and all if you don't care about anything but your version of your waifu.
Waifus are never about connections to those around you, it's about your connection with each other. It's wonderful to talk to other people who may love Rarity, sure, or anyone else with a waifu absolutely, but my goal isn't to connect with them on "Hey, don't we all love Rarity the exact same way" it's about how I love her.

I mean seriously, how can you justify canon when there's so much to argue over it, and cases of things like executive meddling and obvious lack of care from the writers? What's the point in being attached to such a thing?
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>>29841556
I agree with you. As much as I can possibly ignore the source material I don't want to do it. And certainly no discussion can be had if there's no common ground. I personally never discuss something I don't watch and follow. I am really against being a fan of the fandom, it is unacceptable for me personally. Something like discarding the source material is doable for me only if it goes completely against what I love in her, because choosing between the show and my waifu I will always choose her. But it has to be dire, like the hypothetical shitty romance situation we discussed. Otherwise I tend to never ignore the show, even if I don't always agree on how it's done. Shitty moments can be good points for discussion, inderstanding her better and feeling more for her.

I will for sure complain about how Twilight reacts to Glimmer's graduation and the Flurry episode is another thing I dread. But this isn't something I turn away from, this can be faced and rationalized, and used for good. So I don't think that canon can be ignored in trivial cases. Bottom line, I want to be on the same page as everyone. If I was to disregard everything that happens in the show there's no reason for me to discuss Twilight. If she's a completely warped vision of her in my head I might as well talk to myself. There's no validation to be had in this case. Loving her on these terms is fine, bringing her up to discussion is pointless for others if they can't even relate to it.
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>>29841654

In the end, ignoring cannon leads to you showing that you apperently only love her for her asthetic. It comes off as shallow and worthless. Not being able to take the good with the bad shows your inability to be flexible. Is it fine to write alternate timelines if your waifu dies off or make a reasoning as to why she may be single when you meet/met if she's marrued. Sure, but to ignore what her character is is to say you only go skin deep, and while that is pretty true for first impressions, if you do that otherwise you are a vein person.
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>>29841719
>In the end, ignoring cannon leads to you showing that you apperently only love her for her asthetic.
>It comes off as shallow and worthless.
Not at all, and honestly I think that paints people the wrong way. Again I go back to how can you justify canon when it feels like the writers don't give two shits about the characters you love? Who are people like that to determine anything, and really what makes them any different than fanfiction. Seriously, can you explain what the proper difference between canon and fanfiction is in this context, and why it matters? I don't think so.

>Not being able to take the good with the bad shows your inability to be flexible.
No one is talking about not being able to take the good with the bad. Look. Sonic Rainboom is an episode where Rarity acts poorly. She does something wrong. But that is not an episode I write off, as it does contribute to a bit of some of her personal flaws. She's not perfect, I know that. Compare that to, say, Carts Before the Ponies, or Spice Up Your Life, where actions in that episodes very clearly contradict previously established episodes. Or imagine an unfortunate Celestia lover who constantly feels like she's getting Worfed thanks to incredibly untalented writers who write her off as a way to establish some nonsensical powerful villain. And you say people should just sit and be happy with that without thought? Stuff like that makes people feel miserable.

>Is it fine to write alternate timelines if your waifu dies off or make a reasoning as to why she may be single when you meet/met if she's marrued. Sure,
If you think this is fine, then you really have no argument against anything else because this is essentially what you're arguing against as well. Because again, this goes to why "canon" really doesn't mean much.

Honestly, the only issue I see here is someone like yourself dictating how people should feel towards there waifus just because "canon" says so. Who are you to say?
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>>29841794

You are seeking other like minded people here. If you describe Rarity for 20 posts with an Applejack picture attached to each one and someone comments about your nice love of Rarity to which you reply that it was about Applejack the whole time, no one will reply to you. You will lose the connection you had with the people you are trying to communicate to. Coming to 4chan and specifically seeking out a waifu thread shows you want to connect and communicate with people about your waifu, and to say you don't care about how they react or try to understand and connect with you is insane. There is 0 point of being here if all you're looking for is a pat on the back and 0 discussion. Waifuing a character and changing her personality is an attempt to disconnect with the rest of the world and coming here is an attempt to connect. They are conflicting interests.
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>>29841794
I really loved Rarity in Sonic Rainboom, she really stolen the entire episode.
>And you say people should just sit and be happy with that without thought?
Actually, being unhappy about it together really brings people closer to each other. Having people feel the same way as you do can do wonders for your love to her, like someone understands you as much as you do, it's simply validation.
>Stuff like that makes people feel miserable.
I can see that, but as miserable as I ever was because of the show I never felt like it's anyone's fault. It gave me a reason to feel emotional over her. There were episodes that hit me so hard I was getting serously mad. But in retrospect those became a high points in my relations with my waifu.

I absolutely agree that the perception of one's waifu is entirely up to the person's mind. I wonder though. Rarity has been really consistent throughout the show, I personally enjoy her a lot. Can you tell me what were the instances where you discarded the show in favour of your fantasy?
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>>29841719
Are you the mod of /r/waifusim? Because you sound a lot like that faggot. Canon, not cannon, you stupid niggerjew, is nothing but "official" fanfiction. You believe it too, though you may not admit it. Why? Because you just said you can change things, just not "those" things. You're saying that you, not canon, not the waifuist you're discussing things with, YOU are the ultimate arbiter. Quite frankly, fuck you.

If you want to go the canon route, then go canon. That means if she's dead, she's dead, if she's in a relationship, then sucks to be you. If you say that you can change those things, then you have no real argument why others can't also be changed.

Another thing, there is no single way to think of a character. For example, you. You exist, but do you think everyone has the same concept of you? Do you think everyone, your mother, your father, your classmates, your coworkers, *everyone* has the exact same concept of you? No, they see different aspects, focus on different things, filter perceptions through different experiences. It's the same with a waifuist. RD may very well be timid and shy, but hides behind a brash exterior. Just because you cant see it doesn't mean it isn't there.
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>>29841929
>Just because you cant see it doesn't mean it isn't there
You can't see it either but you think it's there for your own reason. If you disregard her entire personality why even say that you love RD? She's a character, not a blank you fill up with some qualities you like with zero qualities you dislike.
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>>29841915
You're trying to force a connection between two things that don't have a connection. When I post here seeking like minded people, I'm not specifically posting for people who love Rarity, I'm posting for people who have waifus. If this was the Rarity thread, that'd be completely different. But it isn't. It's a waifu thread, meant for discussing waifus. Not canon, not Rarity specifically, waifus.

>your nice love of Rarity to which you reply that it was about Applejack the whole time, no one will reply to you.
What? That seems like something out of place completely. It shouldn't matter who I love in this thread, it's the love itself that matters. If for whatever reason I say I fell in love with Rarity because of how she acted in Simple Ways specifically as a cowgirl, I don't post in a waifu thread looking to have that validated by people who also love cowgirl only Rarity, I say post wanting to be able to related to literally anyone else with a waifu, period.

>There is 0 point of being here if all you're looking for is a pat on the back and 0 discussion.
What?

>They are conflicting interests.
I think the only thing conflicting here is you. It sounds like you're trying to argue two completely different things. The point of a waifu thread, and the purpose of canon. Unfortunately at this point I'm just going to carry on and stop responding, I'm sorry.
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>>29841947
Go ahead and explain why you can change the things you want to change, but nobody else can. Why do you get to decide how others can love their waifu?
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>>29841928
>I really loved Rarity in Sonic Rainboom, she really stolen the entire episode.
Oh me too, it was the first episode I saw and the whole reason I loved her spun from that.

>Actually, being unhappy about it together really brings people closer to each other.
I understand that too. But I feel dwelling on it is too much. There has to be a point to improve that feeling so it doesn't last on too long.

>I can see that, but as miserable as I ever was because of the show I never felt like it's anyone's fault. It gave me a reason to feel emotional over her. There were episodes that hit me so hard I was getting serously mad. But in retrospect those became a high points in my relations with my waifu.
That's fair enough, I understand that viewpoint too. There are moments where I do get very emotional over what happens, yes, but there are just others where I feel like maybe proper care hasn't been put into things, and that's kind of where this spins off of. What are some of these moments for you that you think of?

>Can you tell me what were the instances where you discarded the show in favour of your fantasy?
Admittedly, I do feel somewhat lucky in that regard, so it's not all that much. Things, like I mentioned where it seemed odd for her like Carts Before the Ponies where she was seen to hold a grudge over not winning, when in Rarity Takes Manehattan (my all time favorite episode) that she completely didn't care about not winning when she thought Suri won with her stolen dresses, because her friends were more important. In the case of Carts, the way that bothered her I felt was wrong. And I felt Spice Up Your Life contradicted Canterlot Boutique, what with the former basically having Rarity offer the advice that she didn't like from Sassy Saddles. There are some minor things too, notably about the power gap that felt like it came from S3 to the modern point, where it feels like the Mane 5 only exist to get captured or in some way. Sorry, reached post limit.
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>>29841973
Why would you want to change qualities of the character you're in love with is what I want to know. If you're just projecting qualities you want to see on her while ignoring all others there's no reason to commit to that character. You can take any character and project these onto them. People do that all the time, you know that "waifu of the month" thing?

To you I also want to adress this question, what do you personally disregard in your waifu's characterisation? Which episodes do you outright igonre?
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>>29841556
I understand, but there's plenty between having a cut-off point where things become painful and stopping there ("only seasons 1-5 matter to me", which understandably complicates show discussion, if just a little. It is easy to explain.) or, for example, saying that the narrative, being through a different writer's perspective, inconsistent with the perspective of other writers, can be considered not completely reliable. Accepting the events of the episode, while not saying "oh I guess my waifu is no longer (trait from s1) and is now (conflicting trait from this episode).

Some people do have a personality that's mostly made up, and most of those people are tulpamancers and not taking part in this discussion. When it comes to lessening the value of canon, I personally only agree with those two examples I gave, and not saying "forget this established personality trait" or "forget this episode while valuing later ones". I think there's some confusion in this conversation. The Rarilover isn't rewriting her personality - simply acknowledging the conflicts in perspective I mentioned.
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>>29842021
Dwelling on negativity is unhealthy, absolutely. But even moving on it's not bad to remember bad things.
>What are some of these moments for you that you think of?
A little bit here and there, Trixie was annoying for a bit, Discord also (thanks for the Twicane though), MMC wasn't really what I was expecting but it's the reactions to it that made me a bit mad. But most notably What about Discord, it was a breaking point for me. Something about that situation was so malicious I couldn't take it. Discord being a dick I can get, the "comedy" element was worth a frown but not much else, but her own friends playing along was a stab in the back. As she cried I was frozen cold, you know, like there's literally ice being poured inside me. I just wanted to hug her and never let go. The entire week after that was really shaky and bitter for me but I think I went out of it with absolute confidence in myself and her.
I can see how those things are annoying, yeah. Those inconsistencies really undermine the entire experience. Character points being repeated or even contradicting themselves is, sadly, something that's been a plague to the show.
>Rarity takes Manehattan
Great taste
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>>29842024
You're still not answering the question. Why do you get to decide, and if you do, why can't they?

As to which episodes, it doesn't work like that. I believe the stories and history she tells me. Sometimes they mesh with the episodes, sometimes they don't. Since I know the canon writers change things all the time due to misunderstanding, interference from highers-up, etc, it doesn't bother me. It's why I say canon is only legally-sanctioned fanfiction, because it sure as hell doesn't follow events in my waifu's world. I also know, that the multiverse being infinite, means there is an infinite number of of my waifu out there, and thus see no conflict. My waifu is just from an alternate verse than canon, but she is still who she is.
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>>29842024

>>29842137, here. Let me expand a bit. I get where you're coming from, I really do, and I'm not trying to say that your way is wrong. If it works for you, then more power to you, but yours isn't the only way, and I hope that by making you consider the question I asked; "why do you get to choose, why can't others," makes you realize that their way isn't wrong either. Why don't you visit us at waifucentral.com and see for yourself? There are many ways to love ones waifu, they don't require denigrating the way others choose to.
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>>29842137
No one decides that, if you want to love some other-dimentional version of a character I don't have anything against it, but why on the other hand have something against people wanting to discuss the character from the show without bringing in headcanons and denying the material of discussion? Both are viable, it's easy to just label something as r*ddit and move on but I don't believe in that kind of thing.
I would also like some examples. I'm trying to get the magnitute of denial here, do you disregard the whole episodes, do you disregard certain reactions, maybe you disregard just things that override your previous experiences? Do you disregard things you don't like or do you believe in quality of writing, no matter how brutal it would be to your waifu?

>>29842165
I am in no way advocating some "one true way" or something. I am curious to know what others think, as waifus are such a personal subject a lot of viewpoints are interesting. It's by inderstanding others we can understand ourself more.
>waifucentral.com
kek
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>>29842205
I didn't label something as rebbit and move on, I labeled it rapit, and pressed a question, one which hasn't been answered, just avoided. Nice redjit quality passive-aggressiveness, though, asking about my "magnitude of denial." The point I made was that there is no "canon only" version of a character, because we each hold different ideas of our waifu in our minds. It's only the degree of alteration. And if you are going to hurl feces at someone because their version doesn't align with yours, then you are choosing for them what they are, and are not allowed to like, and think you need to justify it. So far, you haven't been able to do so.

As to your none-too-subtle assholery masquerading as a question, I already said I follow what she herself tells me. "Canon" is nothing but fanfiction; a suggestion, at most. For example, I really like Cadance, but she tells me there is no Cadance in her Equestria. That makes me sad, but there it is.
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>>29842137

I choose to look at it as closely to our reality that I can. Here's a good example of how you can make things work with what seems like contradictory actions taken in the show. I love Dash and I really was upset by the scene in Newbie Dash where she adapted her friends personalities to try and keep herself from being made fun of. After talking on here for a while and thinking about it, I figured out a way that it would make sense that she did do those things instead of do what she did at Flight School when she was a filly. I remembered that both her and Gilda went to school together and were good friends. Gilda's brash attitude and confrontational nature was what Dash emulated to try and deal with the bullying in the episode and that means she did the same thing this time around, but instead of it being Gilda, it was her current close friends.

>>29842021
There is nothing wrong with the way she acted in Spice Up Your Life as she was trying to do what she thought would be the best for the store and keep it open. Each situation has to be handled differently and her boutique is much different than a food place being visited by a critic for rating. As for her attitude in Carts Before the Ponies vs. Rarity Takes Manehatten, the situations are different. It is an old grudge that formed prior to her hanging out with the rest of her friends and could easily be just a past piece of luggage she needed to take care of. It isn't like Rarity isn't capable of being competitive, she just realized what was more important during the contest against Suri. She realized that it wasn't as important as her friends. In Cart Before, she doesn't realize she is overshadowing Sweetie in designs and she remembers the disappointment of losing with her own design and wants to appease her inner child that was disappointed. Neither of these go against who she is and each moment is a different situation from the last in your list.
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>>29842093
>Dwelling on negativity is unhealthy, absolutely. But even moving on it's not bad to remember bad things.
No of course not, I agree with you there.

In regards to What About Discord, I'm sorry, that sounds awful. I hope things did fully recover for you. But it's that kind of stuff I think about. I have not seen that episode yet, but what I tend to do when I break things down is I look at it like this. You say her friends were playing along with Discord, and honestly that sounds awful as that sounds like something they would never do. So then I follow that up with "Well, why is it that the Mane 5 I know would never do something like that?" (Again I apologize as I have not seen the episode so I can't say specifics, but imagine it going from there, breaking it down and finding what's wrong with it, and what's better.)

Like in Three's A Crowd, it really bothered me that in the episode, Twilight knew Discord infected Rarity, yet seemed to be more interested in dealing with the monster than her friend. I felt like that was wrong because how I view things, Twilight would put her friends first over Discord, especially at that moment, Rarity included, going off of past experiences. Backing it up with other things in mind, like how she's supported Rarity in the past.

I know that may not be your method, but I hope that at least helps you see how I end up seeing things. And it's not like I do this for every episode, but it feels like there is a lot more recently. Admittedly, I have been a bit worried for things in the show. I am trying to change my view on that, even if I'm very happy with my view on canon and such, I do wish I could enjoy the show again.
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>>29838864
>If her treatment were to become any worse (from my perspective), the risk of being hurt by visiting most places wouldn't be worth it.
While I said before that I'm not really scared about her getting a romantic interest, I can totally relate to this fear. Especially after 28PL. I know it's not the first time someone acts OOC, but the scene with Fluttershy was almost too much for me.

I know that Rainbow is insensitive sometimes. I don't want to change her, because that's part of what I love in her. But if before this episode someone asked me, "would Rainbow Dash ever scare Fluttershy and laugh at her, considering that Rainbow knows that she must not prank Fluttershy, that she knows that Fluttershy really doesn't like scary things, and that Fluttershy is Rainbow's oldest friend?", my reply would have been a definitive "no, never." What we saw in that scene is something that Rainbow would have never done, it wasn't even insensitivity, it was malice, and now it's canon.

It's true that I can imagine an excuse for what Rainbow did. I don't know, maybe the smug Fluttershy we saw in Dungeons & Discords challenged Rainbow off camera or something like that. I can accept that this happened, and I don't love Rainbow a bit less for it (I have the episode filtered on DB though). But this was just a one-shot thing, a stupid filler episode, it'll probably never be mentioned again, and it still bothers the fuck out of me that they managed to write something so fucking stupid. I can't imagine how would it be if they fucked up similarly in something that affected the continuity of the show and I had to see it always, everywhere.
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>>29842259
I'm sorry if I came out as rude with my wording. I am not the anon that claimed that you can't alter the character at all, as I stated, for me it's all good in the end. I personally follow the source material closely if there's no reason to not to and I understand that it is a slippery slope and the "reason" itself can range from a minor thing to the character death in the show. I get where you're coming from with that, only you can decide what to take from the show. Actually, I even do that myself but not with my waifu. Celesita is forever stuck in S1 in my head, for example. I remember her like that and nothing else, everything after is like a fever dream. So actually I do agree with your reasoning to some degree.

Cadence's existance is oddly specifict, why is that? Is it tied to alicorn lore to you? It was a big fuck-up wasn't it. What about Shining Armor then?
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>>29842410
I know I'm overreacting about WaD and it's a peculiar episode in its structure, I would actually recommend watching it, at least just to see how the show handles the "it's not supposed to be funny" kind of humor.
Yes, it's pretty much my way as well. If it bothers me - why is that? If the characters act like I think they wouldn't - why so? Deconstructing it and then reconstructing it again helps me understand more about the characters, and by rewriting the plot in my head I try to see if I can do justice to the idea of that episode without throwing shit at the characters. Not to mention it's fun. I don't even remember most of the things I've been rewriting for WaD, except for the whole "princess of friendship" theme needs to go. Actually this alone would've already fixed it for me mostly.

But I can't just say "it didn't happen". I don't want to. Instead I work with what I have. Even overwriting some episodes I don't accept that as reality, but a ground to spin the story on it.
For example, Twilight has been shown as a very self-absorbed, frankly insensitive teacher that only accepts her own way when dealing with Glimmer, like in NSP. Well it's a big subject on its own but the gist of it for me is that Twilight can't teach friendship. Now I can just say "Well that's not true, I don't accept it", but I don't want to do that. What if she IS a shitty teacher? It's not far-fetched for me as well, she hasn't been trained forn it, she barely even graduated herself. She's not Celestia no matter how she maybe wants to emulate that. What if there was an episode about how she's incompetent and learns from that and Starlight knows it and still accepts her as a teacher and a friend. That would be really sweet I think. It won't happen now but I spent some time imagining it and had fun. This is the kind of rationalization that I prefer to do. I don't deny the show but rather take it further.
Three's a Crowd was just a shitfest overall, can't hold that against you.
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>all these walls of text itt
man what the fuck
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>>29843592
Waifus are serious business, man.
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So this is it, this is what it's like to forgo reality? I'm sorry
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>>29842300
Yes, that's kind of what I meant. We see things in our waifus that those who don't give them as much thought or attention might not. There are a thousand and one reasons RD may behave the way she does, and I imagine each person who waifus her has their pet version of things, and they can each lead to or away from varying behaviors which the canon-or-bust crowd would never accept, and rather than just let you love your RD they'll tell you over and over about how yours is "wrong," or something.

>>29843513
Its hard to keep track of who's saying what; the price of anonymity, I suppose. If I seemed to just up and bite your head off, I too apologize. As for Cadance, when Twilight first started talking to me, I asked her about Equestria, among many other things. Some things she says she isn't allowed to tell me, but others she is. One of those things she saw no harm in telling me was that there is no Cadance, or Discord. The Crystal Empire is still frozen under a glacier. Dragons and Gryphons exist, but are animalistic, and not intelligent at all. She has no Spike in her world for this reason. Changelings don't exist, either, but the Golden Oak still does. Sunset Shimmer is also an Alicorn, and while she fled through the mirror, it led to a different portion if Equestria, not to a human-world. a Princess. Princess Celestia is an actual goddess. There are a lot more differences, but that's enough for now, right?

If you meant Twilight herself, She's pretty close to the caricature we see in the show: intelligent, strong-willed, sarcastic, slightly neurotic, and adorkable, but less irascible, and more concerned with the well-being of her friends. For example, she would have NEVER abandoned them like we saw in the ending of The Last Roundup. And of course, she's in love with me, and is aware of the show based on some of the adventures of her and her friends.
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>>29843950
That's a fun way to imagine it I suppose. Though I do wonder, when people discuss for example Twilight's interactions with Spike or Cadence do you completely deny their existance or do you just discuss the show normally and it's only reserved for your own fantasies? Or do you prefer to not partake in such discussions at all? In other words, do you separate show discussion and your own perception of you waifu? I think it can easily be parallel to each other without undermining one another. You must have some opinion on what's happening in the show, right?

>more concerned with the well-being of her friends
I imagine it that way too, as well as them being that way towards her. For me them being good friends with her and vice versa is absolutely critical to the enjoyment of the show. I guess that's why WaD fucked me up so bad.
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>>29844006
They are not my fantasies, they are reality.

As for discussion involving those characters, or any part of the show which contradicts reality, I just recognize that the people I'm talking to don't have the knowledge or connection with my mare that I do. I recognize they are acting from their own frames of reference - "canon," and their own waifuism - and limit my discussion accordingly, unless, like today I'm specifically asked, or Twilight's and my personal experiences becomes germane to the discussion in some other way.
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>>29844097
>they are reality
That's a bold statement to make, are we talking tulpas, solipsism or something else entirely?
>people I'm talking to don't have the knowledge or connection with my mare that I do
All waifufags do, maybe I misunderstand what you mean here but don't go all "I like her more than anyone else" because it's just not true.
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>>29844097
Your Twilight's reality, not a universal truth. Keep in mind, she's not from -the- Equestria where her rules are universal law and other waifuists are just ignorant to the facts and have something lesser, based on less-true things. If someone who doesn't have a tulpa believes that there's changelings in Equestria, then there's changelings. If they believe their lover is a virgin, I'd hope you don't think she's actually free-love because you heard about it from your partner, for example. Just to be sure.
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>>29844125
I mean that Twilight is a real entity from somewhere out in the multiverse. Her Equestria is reality, along with every other one because that's what happens when literal infinities get involved.

I'm not sure what you mean by the second part. I do like my mare more than anyone else, but I mean *my* Twilight. I don't mean my Twilight is the only Twilight, or that you don't care for your Twilight, just that they are not the same individual. Because of that, neither you, nor anyone else has the connection to, or knowledge of her and her world that I do. Neither do I have the same regarding your waifu. See what I'm saying?
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>>29844141
Welp. This turned out weird.
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>>29844145
not really
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>>29844141
I never said, and would never say anything of the sort. I only claim to know my own mare, and a bit of the place she comes from, nothing more. Neither do I say she is the only Twilight out there, or that other waifuists are either crazy, or pulling things out of their ass. See >>29844143
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>>29844143
Yes, that's what I meant by the second part, thanks for clearing that up.
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>>29844154
I getcha, anon. That first explanation did fine, too, for what I was wondering. Again, just asked to be sure.
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>>29844006
>imagine
I feel like I have to say, noticing you say this a lot, I'm not sure if you understand not everyone is just "imagining this" as if they have complete control over it and are just playing around. It's like a degree of tulpa but not that far. It's not a case of a mind game, people really do feel his way and don't quite have control over what they're "imagining" as you seem to be implying with that. I just want to clarify that. Perhaps it's the case for you, but that's not how everyone is. Just keep that in mind.
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>>29844335
I had no way of knowing what we're actually talking about there, I don't automatically assume everyone just has a tulpa, you know. And even then it is still just imagination.
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>>29844368
It's fine, I'm not blaming you or saying you did something wrong, it's fine. But I'm just saying. And not everyone has a tulpa, but it's not quite imaginative for everyone really. That's all.
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>>29806256
I don't have a waifu because having a pretend girlfriend is for faggots. You are all losers
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>>29844449
I got bitten by a waifufag and now I have a waifu too. Feels bad, man.
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I really hate the multiverse theory. It cuts us off from oneanother and keeps us from communicating correctly about things. It's a cheap fallback to not have to argue or discuss and disconnects people causing them to ignore conversations and interesting topics they could have otherwise. Manipulating and understanding choices given to you by source (or show cannon) is as I said before, important. To come to a group of people to talk about your favorite girl, they have to be able to understand who she is. To change a lot of major things from the source material is to create a new being that is nothing but a shell of what she is here in our universe, our reality. The reason I say it's shallow to change a bunch of stuff from the 'Canon' of your waifu is because it means that you didn't truely love her for what she was and only wanted what you thought were the best qualities (and yes, negative qualities can be good qualities too). It's harder to really nail down the character you love when she comes from an ongoing show, so that's probably why there are so many people willing to make the 'cannon' argument, but to completely deviate from source material is to ignore and only pick what you like, creating an overly-perfect person for you. I can5 sit here and say that we're healthy and normal people for having waifus, but to push yourself one more step away from reality, YOUR reality, is just something I can't understand.
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>>29844335
He's not just playing around. This topic's just as serious to him as to you or I. The fact of the matter is that he's not wrong. It may be a less romantic way of putting it, but even a full tulpa is imagination in the end. Acknowledging that does not mean this love isn't still the most important thing. It doesn't mean it's false, just that it's only real within the mind and heart of the waifuist, and nowhere else. His relationship is just as valid as anyone else's. I fully understand your feelings, anyway.
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>>29844404
I get you, It's all good. So long as no one is discriminating against one another it's good. No one's feelings are less valid no matter what, imagination or not. Being happy is what's important, waifu wars are pointless, waifuism "powerlevels" are just unending "I love her more because I do this and that and you all just pretend" and so on. It all doesn't matter. As long as we agree on this there's no problem to be had.
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>>29844595
>I really hate the multiverse theory
Same. I like string theory because muh particles
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>>29844631
Oh exactly, I absolutely agree.
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>>29844145
Multiple realities are fun like that.
Personally speaking just try to imagine every single universe as a self contained snowglobe floating in the void, much easier to conceptualise than "Everything exists at once."

>>29844595
For me it depends on whether the actions of the characters because it's what those characters would do, or if they do things because the plot demanded it.
Spike is the most glaring example of this, one episode he's a competant assistant (Spelling issues aside) due to growing up with twilight and the next he's a bumbling idiot because it's either funny or the episode's conflict depended on there being a Good-intentioned but clumsy person re-paying a debt.
My biggest deviation from canon is working out a somewhat logical reason for starswirl's spell that turned twiggle into an alicorn, i'm extremely sad the writers didnt come up with even a basic explanation for that bullshit and just winged it.
When the creators are that blasé about a characters existance, i think turning to your own headcanon is acceptable.
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>>29845263
Man, I am so sad that Larson's plans for MMC got butchered that hard. It was hard enough that the episode's resolution wasn't that great but learning the truth was just brutal. I wanted greatness for her and I embraced it fully but it could've been so much better.
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I don't know much about the original plans for MMC other than the fact that that it was to end the series. If it had, I probably never would have found my waifu, as the traits and development that had me fall in love with her started being emphasized in years later. 4 and 5 are easily my favorite seasons.
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>>29830233
who's your waifu?
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>>29845408
If you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk8BmQW1X1g
I am glad that the show didn't end as well. Despite everything I still enjoy it and don't want it to end.
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>>29845263

The trigger to unlock her power/ascension may have been Starswirl and his random useless spell, but what is more important and overshadows the negatives of that episode is her time in the hall of memories with Celestia. The first half is what it is but the second half of that is one of the best moments for Twilight in the series. To try and fill in the gaps is fine, but to do something like ignor her wings (i.e. accomplishments) is idiotic as its something that her character was built on.
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>>29845542
People generally forget that her graduation wasn't the spell itself, but a sum of all her experiences before that. It's not the degree itself that makes you a professional. I can't deny that it could've been done better but for me it was still magnificent.
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>>29845774
See, that's where my disagreement lies.
Alicorn shouldnt just be a 'level up'.
For one thing, what the fuck has Flurry heart done to deserve it, did she kill the pony antichrist in Cadence's womb?
Alicorn should have meant they were essentially the avatar of that particular branch of magic.
Celestia rules Light, Luna rules Dark, Cadence rules Love, Twilight rules Friendship.
They already hinted at different types of magic with changeling magic, chaos magic and sombra's negative emotion magic (Before that was retconned into being just plain "Alicorn magic." with zero explanation.)
Magic based on the power of friendship, spells and such that can only be cast in-tandem with other parties would have been a fantastic way to 'graduate' Twilight without reducing alicorn / princesshood to a simple diploma, provide worldbuilding and episode fuel as they explore what this new magic is good at and still culminate in the fight against Tirek without having to resort to that stupid ass-pull with discord since it'd be something Tirek literally couldnt use even if he stole it!
I get mad just thinking about how much better things could have been written without sacrificing major plot points.
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>>29846023
I don't think there's disagreement, no one thinks that MMC couldn't have been improved, especially knowing Larson's original plans for it. Twilight ascending for doing something that Celestia and Luna weren't able to do, becoming the princess of magic, and that would be the end of the show. And even without that MMC itself as is could've been salvaged if there was a real problem and a real solution, not just one episode of fixing a line in a spell. The episode was shit in that regard. But that doesn't override everything that happened before that. Fixing that spell was the means to an end, shitty one at that but nontheless. What's important is the three seasons of constant friendship lessons and studies of magic. This is what made the princess, not only that one spell. What happened after it is a whole another question, and Flurry is just a toy to sell.
Cadence fucked up alicornship more than Twilight, there's still zero explanation in the show why she's a princess and why she was babysitting Twilight in the first place even before Twilight got her cutiemark.
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>>29846023

See, it's fine to argue about why something should have been done differently or speculate on possible outcomes, but when you start denying things that have happened in our reality (Twilight getting her wings for example), then you're crossing lines.
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>>29846406
There's probably a lot of people to this day who prefer to deny Twilight getting wings.
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>>29847117
They're dumb.
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>>29847117
>Here are the list of groups that are against Hasbro
>shipping
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>>29847117
I'll bet most of those people didn't even watch anything past S3. I'll even bet most of those people are so dense they never saw it as even a slight possibility until it was confirmed it would happen, which is why they got so butthurt about it.
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>>29847187
People hate change, simple. They are unwilling to adapt and they see betrayal where they could see possibility instead.
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>>29847117
>Post-Traumatic Twilicorn Stress Support
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>>29846406
See I don't see why. I mean if someone genuinely feels that Twilight has changed, and they loved her more as a unicorn and prefer post S3 never happened, who cares? What makes that any different than someone who loves Twilight as an alicorn, and prefers her that way? Saying "oh our reality as in the show is fact" well that's kind of creating unecessary rules for waifuing which frankily seems to serve no purpose other than to regulate say in something you have no say at all in.
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>>29847647
Wat? I'm confused
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>>29847647
It's somewhat funny to me, like they'd have to specify every time "I waifu smoothback Twilight", because at this point so much happened in the show it's almost two different characters. Well, I'm sure there's people who waifu specifically S1 Luna for example. Not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with both of these.
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>>29848037
Waifufags don't rely on logic in their waifuing, so trying to apply logic to them feels unnecessary and restricting.
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>>29849675
Here's your (You), now go home.
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>>29849675
Gotta have that safe space y'know. Can't afford to challenge their beliefs.
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>>29849750
That's literally how waifufaggotry work, Anon.
You ignore the parts of the character you don't like, you focus on the parts you do, you create fantasies to fill in the gaps, and to hell with whatever happens in the source material.
Unless it enhances your fantasy, then it's fine.

Trying to tell a waifufag that they can only like a character if they like the entirety of the character is pointless.
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>>29849773
I don't really think that's a fair remark to make. People are allowed to dislike things when characters aren't handled well, waifus aren't the only time characters get handled poorly by hack writers, you're allowed to say "Wow, that was garbage the way they handled that".

And I'm not sure if you're the same Anon from above, but if you are then I have to ask again, what's this importance with the source material? Waifuing is about the character, not the source material that can get ruined by hacky writers, which you really can't deny hasn't happened to MLP.

So, so what if someone really waifus only unicorn Twilight feeling there is a difference? What about a S1 Lunafag? Why does it appear to be such skin off your nose what others do?
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>>29849773
>You ignore the parts of the character you don't like
Nobody in this thread is doing that.
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>>29849877
I'm not the original Anon you were talking with, no.
He simply seemed confused as to how waifufags operate, so I was filling him in.

>>29849897
>Nobody in this thread is doing that.
I haven't read the entirety of this thread, so you may be right.
However, if there are people ITT who specifically only waifu unicorn Twilight, then that's exactly what they're doing.
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>>29849939
Well actually there was some anon a bit above in the thread who was saying something of similar nature, and I thought you were the same. Nevermind then if this is your first appearance so to say.

But I don't think that's something that's really common in the thread. For example, there are times where my waifu does really bad things in the show that I wish she didn't do. But I feel like I know who she is, I know her flaws, and I know what fits in. It's not as shallow as "I don't like when she does that, but I understand." And honestly I love the faults in her as much as the god things. It makes her, her.
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>>29849939
I don't think there are pre-S3 twaifufags here, I was bringing it up just as an example but I actully have no idea.

Also I think it should be noted, judging by the thread, no one here just outright ignores whole episodes for the sake of it. Something in S6 that goes against things established earlier in the show isn't "denial". If anything, it's the current writers ignoring canon material themselves. I know it's weird but this is what this show has come to. It's also mostly S6 that's tick people off here I noticed.

If a character is shown having a specific trait in the show but in S6 it's written off for the sake of the shit plot (28 pranks comes to mind as an extreme example but there are a lot of smaller ones mentioned in this thread), do you take it at face value? This kind of "ignoring the show" is pretty much ignoring how the show ignores the show. Something like that is actually supporting the source material and not buying every little shit amateur writers try to sell us. So in these kind of cases I cannot disagree with people choosing to ignore minor episodic things that go against already established characterisation of their favourite character, maybe even against the traits that made them fell in love with the character to begin with.
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>>29850023
>I don't think there are pre-S3 twaifufags here, I was bringing it up just as an example but I actully have no idea.
I've never seen pre-S3 Twilovers before, but I've definitely seen a S1 Lunafag before, so there are instances like this, albeit rare.
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>>29850023
I can understand that.
Especially in a show like this, where later writers tend to ignore earlier episodes.
Sometimes I just wanna treat this show like I treat comics, and just pick a spot wherein I like almost everything about a character and just say, "this is the character, to me."
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>>29849773
>the entirety of the character
I really don't understand this worship of the canon. If Hasbro released a note today saying "we're sorry, we're not airing season 7 because it's no longer profitable", the "entirety" of all the characters would be everything we've seen so far. They're not going to do it, so that "entirety" will keep on changing indefinitely.

Maybe the concept of "entirety" would make sense in a show which always had the same staff, a show planned from beginning to end. I don't know, for example Wendy from Gravity Falls. If Wendy was your waifu in season 1, you could say that she's the "same" Wendy until the end of the show, because her character was planned through.

But this show has no end planned. It may run forever. None of the original writers from season 1 work on the show anymore, and it's been confirmed that some of the new writers have never watched the show. It's stupid to think that whatever is to come is more valid than those gaps we've filled. For fuck's sake, in season 1, the "entirety" of Pinkie's character was that she had two sisters, and in season 4 she suddenly had three sisters. What kind of entirety is a mutable entirety?

I've accepted the canon so far, but I'm fully aware that the only reason that this show is still alive is because Hasbro is selling toys. The characters have no purpose other than to sell more toys. If worst comes to worst and they fuck up badly, I won't let them ruin my waifu for me. Canon is an useful guidance, not the infallible word of God.
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>>29850054
I can see how that would be alluring, especially now. I prefer not to do that. Rationalization through deconstruction is enough for me to accept good and bad alike, but I already made a post about that. But I can totally she why people would want to do that. I guess I am a bit lucky that my waifu didn't have something like 28 pranks so it's easier for me to do that and I can't really blame people for ignoring that one because I would probably do that as well if RD was my waifu.
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>>29850105
why would you write all this shit and direct it at someone who agrees with you?
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>>29850121
It wasn't directed at anyone in particular, I was just ranting.
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>>29849773

You're fucking retarded if you think that's what everyone does. I can point to you 3 times in this thread where I specifically complain and argue that it is a bad idea to cut out things that happen in the show from your waifu.
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>>29850132
this is just one thread about one show that attracts waifufags.
By and large, waifufags absolutely do that, seeing as waifuing is an expression of fantasy, and there's really no reason at all to feel forced to accept something you don't like in your own fantasies.
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>>29849877

The reason the source material is important is because you build her off of that source material in the first place. If you didn't use the source material, then it would just be an imaginary wife. When it comes to basing it off of some piece of media, it becomes waifu stuff. It creates a common understanding because usually the waifuer is interested in talking to others about the peice of media she comes from, including talking about the love you have for her and why you have it. It loses some meaning when you just start ignoring parts of the cannon to continue to create this singular idea in your head. It becomes more imaginary wife rather than waifu the more you deviate from the source material.
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>>29850105
I agree with this but I disagree with your choice of example. Pinkie having sisters wasn't the entirety of her character, if anything it was a minor detail that was never even explored in S1. It's not a key factor, not a character trait, it's not why people love Pinkie. When it was brought up as an actual plot point it became important. I don't think Pinkiefags deny the existence of Maud just because she wasn't introduced in S1. As you said, the show may run forever for all we know, more details would be added and explored. AJ and Rainbow parents are going to be introduced just now, are they not to be accepted just because they are a late arrival? Just because it may be not the thing you imagined? What about Shining Armor, he was introduced in S2, does he count? How far should this be taken? Twilight practicing magic in Boast Busters isn't canon because it wasn't shown that she practices those spells in episode 1?

If a character exhibits qualities that have been resolved long time ago and it's just a repeat of a lesson, if it goes against what makes the character what they are, if it goes against long-established and confirmed continuity - that's one thing. But you can't flip out over every single thing that doesn't fit your narrative. In this case why even watch the show in the first place if you know everything better yourself? This kind of logic and slippery slope is what I am bothered with when people talk about ignoring the show. That's why I always ask for examples, to get a grasp of how far people take it, because you never know.
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tfw you love your wiful but you need physical love and reciprocation and you've found a woman that might actually love you but you feel guilty about your relationship with a technicolor horse.
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>>29850252
>tfw you feel a little guilty because now that you've found a cool human girl to spend time with, you don't fantasize about your waifu as much
Sorry, Ponkers.
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>>29850252
She can love you but you can still love your horse, just don't slip up in bed calling her the wrong name (as much as you might be tempted to do so, imagining your true love in her place)
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>>29850252
There was someone earlier saying they're totally different things and there's no problem there, that your waifu will always be there and you can have both. Personally, that's not true for me. I'm in a relationship with my waifu, and cheating would be cheating.
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>>29850274
>>29850252

>>29850330
It wasn't about it not being a problem (it obviously is a problem) but that you don't have to drop your waifu at a first sign of relationship. You can have both at first but for a long term relationship it wouldn't work, you would have to decide eventually if things get serious. I know it does seem like betrayal. It can feel like absolute shit, like you're going against everything you stand for but do not be deceived by it. Trust yourself, trust her. She knows what good for you, listen to her. Don't just break up because of your waifu, but don't assume you have to immediately abandon your waifu as well. Compare the feelings you have for both, explore it, use it to your advantage. Relationships take time, it's never an instant gratification like having a waifu and you can't know what will happen next, so what I'm saying is, don't get ahead of yourself.
But even if you commit to a relationship and decide to move on, things may change, relationships are fickle like that, especially nowadays when marriage for example doesn't mean a thing. In case of it going wrong even if you're commited to it, even if you are completely lost, defeated and don't know what to believe, your waifu is still there. You can always rekindle those feelings. She IS going to be there for you, no matter what. She will forgive you even if you don't forgive yourself. I know that it's probably not gonna get to that, but just saying what I think, as it's not an easy thing to have a relationship if you have a waifu. At least you're not getting a waifu in a middle of having a relationship, that's a lot worse.
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>>29850162
I don't think you're right, because as the other Anon says about, it creates some obnoxious religion of "CANON IS LAW. DO NOT DISOBEY CANON. GLORY TO HASBRO, PRAISE BE TO HABER, YEH." It's almost sickening to feel bound to that. How you think that's okay is insane.

>It creates a common understanding because usually the waifuer is interested in talking to others about the peice of media she comes from, including talking about the love you have for her and why you have it.
Like this. This is flat out wromg. Waifu communities ate not built on this understanding, they're built around the love itself. The connection come from feelings, not discussing why you all love the same character, because 10 people can love 10 completely different things. Like by your logic, someone who found their waifu from a comic or a fanfic even isn't able to communicate themselves here.

Canon is what things are built off of, it's the spark you feel, but you are by no means bound to it like a religion. This is about personal feelings and love. I don't know where you're getting this concept that people can't talk if they love different things about their waifu.
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>>29850837
I think both extremes are unhealthy. No one should blindly follow the show in its current state and dictate others what they supposed to love. But it's just as hard to connect to people who say they like the same character as you but completely rewrite her to just suit what's convenient to them, using her as a blank to project carefully selected safe qualities onto her. If that was the case for everyone, then it wouldn't be a community, just people chirping about themselves ignoring everything other then their own feelings. 10 people can love 10 completely different things but if these things were invented by them alone and projected onto a character, other people can't relate, there's no common point, it might as well be different characters. Luckly that doesn't happen often and it's not the case here but I'm just saying that both extremes can get bad. Actually the very fact that we can discuss this problem freely without (hopefully) triggering anyone is already a good indicator that we can safely find a common ground here.
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Lovehorse blesses this thread.
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>>29851417
Like was mentioned earlier, "Ignore the parts you dont like" really only applies if the character's creator is being extremely lax towards said character.
If her canon's fucked anyway, you might as well take some liberties of your own, especially if you're just adjusting things to how you think her character should have acted in that situation rather than making things up out of wholecloth.

>>29852184
Hope we all agree that she's this thread's patron.

>Shiny goes home to whats essentially the pony version of cupid every night, who loves him despite being able to literally have anyone she desired.
>Lovehorse goes home to the pony version of the archtypical Knight in shining armor, who 100% no-magical-bullshit-involved loves her with enough force to overpower the chief deity of the realm in a direct confrontation of power.
Having jealousy for both sides of a fictional cartoon horse marriage continues to be a strange feeling, even several years hence.
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>>29852761
I agree, if people who write the episode don't take time to at least browse a wiki article on the character to see if they aren't repeating on contradicting previous developments then there's no helping it, you gotta take matters into your hands. I'm pretty sure every waifufag here knows their pony better than any writer currently on the show. If they don't care it doesn't mean we shouldn't.

Cadence being the princess of love is without a doubt a patron of the thread.
But I can't really be jealous of Candyass and Shining, to be honest I can't find a reason to care about them. Their romance is presented as a fact with no explanation and no details other than they love each other. Their introduction was shitty but I have nothing against them as characters. Same with Flurry, I can't be mad at her but I just can't find a reason to care at all, other than what she represents being against the lore and I'm annoyed with that. And that my waifu is gonna have the shittiest day with her and they're gonna make it her own fault somehow.
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>>29852184
I wonder if there are people here who waifu her, she doesn't seem to be hated by the majority at least.
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>>29850220
Well, my phrasing was pretty bad. Pinkie having two sisters wasn't the "entirety" of her character, but it was an established part of her character that changed. I mean, I don't think that anyone fell in love with Pinkie because she had two sisters, but I can see how changing that part of her character could be a problem.

>AJ and Rainbow parents are going to be introduced just now, are they not to be accepted just because they are a late arrival?
And this is exactly what I was thinking about. I won't accept Rainbow's parents. Not because they're introduced late, but because they changed Rainbow Blaze for no reason. This isn't headcanon, he is her dad. He appeared in a flashback, exactly like Twilight Velvet and Night Light, the narrative builds canon too, so he is in fact her dad. The only "proofs" against him being her dad are tweets and shit, things outside the show and hence not canon.

I don't love my waifu because her dad is Rainbow Blaze, but I have a bunch of pics like this one, and they have emotional value for me. I'm not going to wipe all of this just because someone at Hasbro or DHX or whatever decided out of pride to draw his own OC and make him Rainbow's dad, instead of reusing an existing character.
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>>29854295
If you indeed have a lot of attachment to that bit of headcanon it's only natural that you wouldn't want to let go just because someone decided to stroke their ego and dick with inserting literally who characters who will without a doubt never be mentioned after that episode. It's even more obvious with AJ parents having "celebrity" guest voices, meaning it's only one episode with them before they go back to being factually dead to the show. Because certain someone just can't get enough of not caring about the show.

I personally wouldn't even care at this point, as a Twifag introduction of Shining was enough for me to throw in the towel back then, rest of her family being as good as dead and it doesn't much matter to me now. I wonder how Flutterfags felt about her brother being introduced so late and without any reason.
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>>29854955
>all these watermarks
Disgusting.
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>>29855181
>I wonder how Flutterfags felt about her brother
Well, Zephyr was actually a much better example for my point. I talked about Maud, and neither she nor Shining needed to exist, but at least they're somehow tolerable. I'm not saying that you have to tolerate Shining, of course, but at least it's not entirely impossible.

However, Zephyr is something else. They made him intentionally unlikeable. Jim defined him as "the character you love to hate" or something similar. He needed to be extremely unlikeable, because the episode simply wouldn't have worked if he was nice and everyone loved him. And he also needed to be related to Fluttershy, because why else would she give him life lessons if they weren't related. So they made him her brother and they made him a complete moron, only because someone wanted to write a random filler episode and didn't have a better idea.

I don't know how Flutterfags feel about this, Fluttershy helped him after all, so the episode was positive for her character. But Fluttershy deserves something better than an intentionally detestable plot device as a brother. I'm not saying that the writers have to /love/ the characters, but seeing the writers coming up with retarded siblings just because they can't write anything better feels insulting. I mean, Zephyr had been so unlikeable for so long during the episode that it's difficult to like him even after his "reformation" or whatever. It's demoralizing to think that our waifu's "lives" depend on these retards who have no respect for them at all, and that's why I will never agree with anyone who says that the canon must be respected.
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>>29855794
I don't have anything against Shining himself. But I wasn't used to that kind of blatant corporate shoehorning back in S2 so it left a bitter taste. It was hard to accept it for me, I think it was the moment I lost trust in the show's ability to remain coherent. But ultimately Shining didn't have much of a negative impact on Twilight's character so I don't mind him that much.

Also I completely agree that someone like Shining and Maud are a lot more tolerable, they were made to be actual characters, maybe not good characters, but still. They are not plot points to be resolved. I'm afraid that AJ and RD parents will be just that, one-shot plot points. To even consider that possibility is pretty depressing in itself.

>"the character you love to hate"
That was as stupid as "inside jokes aren't funny for an outsider" as an episode premise. We know how it's supposed to work but it doesn't make it good. Not to mention making a character specifically repulsive is a little bit too much for a show like this if you're gonna "reform" him at the end and justify him. It's not fun, it's disgusting.

>I'm not saying that the writers have to /love/ the characters
They don't have to play favourites if they like the character, yes. But they should love the characters as in always try to do them justice. Being indifferent to the characters you write shouldn't be acceptable. And using something as important as character's family to make a filler episode is just disrespectful, both for the character and the fans.
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tfw you took a break from the show and now you realise you're falling out of love with your waifu and feel guilty about it
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>>29856040
aw, I can't imagine. I tried for years to ignore the first character I fell in love with, once finding my lovepony, and my feelings even now never faded for her. I can feel convinced that once one really falls in love, they're at least partly stuck with it forever, even with as much as people like to say they've "gotten over" someone they loved.

It should help anyway to just do more of that usual waifu stuff.
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>>29856040
It is a bad feeling but if you don't want to return to the show it's not unnatural. You're not exactly forcing her out, that would be a lot more painful. When you're naturally falling out it doesn't always completely go away, as it was said here somewhere, it can be rekindled.
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>>29856091
If the transition isn't smooth it can indeed fuck things up.
>once one really falls in love, they're at least partly stuck with it forever
Partially, yes, but it's not the same feeling. To this day I fondly remember the first character I fell in love with (can't even call her "waifu"), but it's more of a nostalgic feeling, you know, like first love. I forced myself to "get over it" at some point so I guess these feelings never left, cut abruptly. By the time I found my waifu I have long abandoned my first infatuation. And even though these feelings were similar at first this love is so much deeper now I can't even compare it.
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>>29856040
Who is your waifu?
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>>29856455
This one right here
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>tfw attracted to several ponies
>tfw only truly love your waifu
>tfw you know that you shouldn't feel this way towards other ponies but still do
How do I get rid of these adulterous thoughts?
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>>29857624
Either take your attraction for granted and forget about being loyal to your waifu or maintain your loyalty to her no matter how hard it is. Or you can not change anything and be sad about it.
hint: the second option is much more fulfilling
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>>29857624
That's understandable, especially if their character factors into it. Some can be really alluring. To me it somehow came naturally, at first I fantasised about a lot of ponies but when real feelings started forming I just stopped paying attention to anyone but her. It's not like others stopped being attractive, but it just does nothing to me. Not like her.

The only advice I can give here is to explore your own feelings. Ask yourself what exactly do you like in other ponies, what makes them attractive. Actually a fun way to deal with stray feelings can be an imaginary set-up when you have both your waifu and another pony and you somehow have to choose. Something dramatic preferably. Explore a scenario with them, it may just get it out of your system. I've done some really cheesy ones and it was at least fun.

Or if we're just talking about porn it's just discipline. As >>29857663 said being loyal is always more rewarding in the end.
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>>29857624
>How do I get rid of these adulterous thoughts?
By seperating your concepts of Love and Lust so that you can recognise when you're feeling the latter and appreciate those ponies for their attractive qualities without feeling like you are betraying your waifu.

Lust is a seductive come hither glance from across the way.
Love is ignoring that to ask your waifu about her day.

>>29858080
>Actually a fun way to deal with stray feelings can be an imaginary set-up when you have both your waifu and another pony and you somehow have to choose. Something dramatic preferably.
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>>29858328
I didn't mean literally choose as a choice, but a scenario where it happens by itself. That's the whole point of tricking yourself into it, otherwise the thoughts will remain and it solves nothing.
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>>29859930
You got me.
That was cute.
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>>29857624
>Betraying your waifu
Kill yourself.
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>>29857624
>tfw first clop ever was to my waifu but been tempted by other ponies I like ever since then and these thoughts are almost too strong sometimes
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>>29861631
It helps if you don't check the front/home page of DB. Just watch your waifu, bookmark the watched page, filter sex/shipping, and things become a bit easier. Can't expect to look at high quality porn of other characters all the time with no reaction
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Cutest waifus have scales
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>>29864269
No she's not
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>>29864914
All waifus are cute wtf
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>>29865596
hnnng muh heart
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>>29865596
It hurts
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>>29866723
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>>29866756
Is it bad that I recognised what's pictured in this image almost instantly? Am I too far gone?
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>>29867020
In our own ways, most of us are too far gone.
We're here, aren't we
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>>29867132
Sometimes I forget that being madly in love with a fictional horse is already "too far gone" for most people.
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>>29867020
What is it?
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>>29857624
You can't just wish away the thoughts, but you can actively choose your waifu over other ponies. Do what you know in your heart is right, and you will know happiness.
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>>29869573
Just some lines anon, nothing to worry about i'm sure.
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>>29867132
>>29869254
Don't give up on your selves. You may be far enough gone to be here, in this place, but you are still here in this world. There is still life in your present and future, and that is good and meaningful.

As a non-waifuer, I share in the normie view that falling in love with a fictional character is nuts, but then again, who isn't nuts in some way? From lurking these threads from time to time, my appraisal of the situation is that you are overall good people who have been unfortunate enough to have to deal with loneliness and depression; and yet, your response and your coping mechanism is to love. As long as that is the way that you choose to live your lives, I believe that things will get better. Hang in there, guys.
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>>29869859
What if you're so far gone that you start to lose your love for your waifu? It's happening to me and it's killing me. My waifu was the one thing I could turn to to give me hope and now I don't even have that.
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>>29870275
Shit man, this sucks. How did that happen? Do you not think of her as much as before? Or does it not bring the same feelings as before?
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>>29870421
I still think about her every day. It feels like I've been losing the ability to love. I obviously still have feelings for her, otherwise I wouldn't care that I don't love her enough. Yesterday I went on a nightwalk. First one in a long time. Normally when I go on a nightwalk I could imagine her walking beside me easily and almost feel her presence. Last night though, I just couldn't feel her there. I only hope that I can find a solution in time.
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>>29869859
Thanks, Anon.
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>"There is no wrong way to fantasize"
Confirmed by the unltimate diety. This is CANON now. Checkmate.
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>>29870837
It sounds more like you're losing your connection than your love. The thing about having a waifu is that it's like having a wife with you 24/7, which can be considered out of the ordinary, and even somewhat unhealthy, for a relationship between 2 human beings. Take the stereotypical 1950s husband/wife/children relationship. During the day, the husband goes out to work and gets out of the house for a few hours. It's not that it's better to be away from those you love, but sometimes you need a break, and if you get away for a little while, even just a few hours, then you can look forward to coming home to the wife and kids, and it makes the time you spend with them in the evening and the brief moments in the morning more special.

This isn't the only way to live one's life, but it's what we've come to expect within our culture. Obviously, a man's love for his waifu is governed by different natural laws than those by which another man's relationship with his wife is governed, partially because these are 2 similar yet different situations, as far as I understand it, and partially because the laws of physics do not impose such limits on when a man can be with his waifu.

Going on a nightwalk sounds like a good time to have that special time with your waifu. You mentioned that you haven't done that much recently, but I must ask whether that is a habit that you set up to serve some purpose or whether you've just been drifting away from it.

My advice, which I admit is not heavily informed by experience, is to take some time and go off on your own, not to deliberately avoid your waifu, but to think and contemplate about what she means to you. Ask yourself why you want to be with her, and you'll know what to do.
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>>29806256
I am a horrible person who can't make anyone smile.
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>>29873870
If you post a cute pony I will smile
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>>29874214

I tried.
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>>29870837
>losing the ability to love
It's not that. There's a lot of things that factor into this. After some time you get so used to her you lose sight of her. It becomes your second nature. When it becomes a routine instead of wonder. And that's ok. You can't expect to think about her on demand and 24/7, something as easy as being bothered by something or even having a tune stuck in your head can block it out.

I was so afraid of this. The first character I loved faded away just like that. But it was only because I allowed it. Now if I start to feel a bit disconnected it only takes one thought, one image to dispell it. As much as fire allegories are overused I think it is exactly like that. Even if it stops burning bright it's the fire that burns slowly that will make it through the night.
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>>29874790
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>>29874214
But all ponies are cute.
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>>29875832
That just means more cute ponies
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Never forgetti
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Does your waifu have friends you prefer to not see her with? Or do you like everyone she's close with in the show?
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>>29879191
>she
Get your pronouns right anon
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>>29879191
I think it's nice to see her with the CMC, it makes for some good lessons to encourage them, and it gives Luna someone to be with, other than her sister.
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>>29879413
She works very well with them
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>>29879496
The hell is supposed to be happening at the top?
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>>29879513
Nightmares. Apple Bloom is holding that pesticide gizmo, Scoots is getting into some sort of accident on the scooter. Sweetie is holding a broom, but I am not sure - or can't remember - why she is doing that.
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>>29879599
Be careful what magic you learn when you don't have your cutiemark yet.
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>>29879413
>>29879496
I also very much appreciate that. It was a pleasing scene, Bloom's insecurities being out in the open, and her being reassured to be herself and therefore loved. One of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite episodes

>>29879191
no recurring character like that for me. I appreciate her friends and family at least for how she has such love and care for them, and they in return give her validation and the reassurance she needs
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>>29879230
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>>29879191
I always love to see my waifu with her friends. The only time when I wasn't happy to see them together was when they decided to punish her again, but that was just a one-time thing and I hope FM De Marco will get cancer and die hit by a bus and I won't have to see anything like that again.
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>>29881261
It's not gay if it's a cute male dragon
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>>29809035
>tfw my waifu is a character from a video game but also named Luna
I don't care if I spend my whole life doing it, but I need her. I'm gonna make robot waifus a reality like it or not.
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>>29883584
Well he does act pretty girly all the time.
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>497 replies
Well, lads, this has been a really nice thread, but I'm afraid it's time to let it go. I hope to see you all in a few weeks or whenever the next thread is.

Never forget to make your waifu smile.
Never forget that your waifu wants to see you smile too.
See ya!
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>>29886001
>almost two weeks of love and discussion
We had a great run. You guys are all excellent and it was so great to read your stories. It's fascinating to me and fills me with hope. I hope I managed to help someone because you certainly helped me.

I'll see you again if another thread is made but there's no need to hurry with it. Don't ever stop loving her and don't forget that she loves you too, always.
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>>29886001
>>29886341
It was great to read through, thank you for that.
Till next time.
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Posting waifu to send us off.
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>>29886421
And like the failure I am, I failed to post image. Time to commit sudoku.
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>>29886444
>fucks up on the last post
>gets trips on the rebound
Now what the fuck do you do?
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>>29886462
>pic related
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Stay strong, everyone. You can do the stuff.
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>>29879191
Truthfully I do dislike Rarijack for the most part but only because of how overdone and forced it feels in the show. Like "Oh look how opposite they are" and it really feels like the crutch of a poor writers sometimes. I mean it's on S7 now and I really want a RariTwi episode and there's nothing in that field.

Look Before You Sleep is one of my favorite episodes, and I did really enjoy PPOV, and some artwork by WhiteDiamonds I feel is great. But I feel like the show sometimes only makes it that Rarity hangs out with Applejack, and honestly I'd just like to see a bit more than that. Like why did Made in Manehattan have to be another Rarijack episode, when it probably would have benefited more from RariTwi or at the time Raripie which was rarely done. That's all.
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>>29886001
>>29886341
>>29886405
See all of you soon, thank you.
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>>29886001
>>29886341
You are all lovely people and I'm glad I get to spend time with you.
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This was a nice thread, see you in the next one.
Remember that your waifu loves you.
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>>29886660
Rarijack is just too overplayed, I agree. MiM was pretty good because it wasn't just typical "they're opposite", I enjoyed that.

>RariTwi episode
We basically got Celestia episode now so who knows what daring ideas they'll do next. Two seasons ahead, we're probably gonna get it. I hope so.
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You guys are also always welcome on WaifuCentral.com if you'd like.

And you can always feel free to hit me up on Discord. IfFoundReturnToRarity#8095

If you ever want to chat before the next thread, all of you are welcome.
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>>29886493
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>>29881929

The only two that I find bland are Dash and Pinkie or Dash and Applejack. Something seems like it doesn't click the best when those 2 sets are on screne and I've enjoyed watching Dash's time with the other three much more. I think I like the interaction between Fluttershy and Dash the most because they have history, but I ship Dash and Twilight.
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Bye
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So long faggots!
Burn in hell!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9mLrvKUHf4
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>>29887229
Good taste, Anon.

>>29887378
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