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>an american 2D animated film releasing in theaters
> they are dropping flash and actually doing traditional animation
> basically guaranteed to make good money if it's distributed properly
> creating a whole studio in its wake

Could pony actually save traditional animation?
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>>29716146
> they are dropping flash and actually doing traditional animation
What no it is toonboon not hand drawn.

but the 2d means that yes it will save animation. Even /co/ is a little excited for the return of 2d animation
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>>29716146
>dropping flash
It's made on toonboom desu

all the hopes and dreams of OP must be kept at least until the release.
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>>29716146
It won't just save 2D, it will save pony
Make Equestria Great Again
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>>29716182
>>29716189
Oh well that's better than nothing.

Haven't watched pony send season two but I'll definitely see the movie and buy the Blu-ray like I did with the iron giant re-release

Here's to hoping.
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>>29716146
>american
So this is America now?
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>>29716233
It's an American property and thats enough to trick Americans.
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>>29716146
There is STILL no trailer. Nothing can be said about its quality before it drops. But the fact that people are already in damage control because of OCs reveal already tells you something. I personally can't get hyped about it before they show the actual animation.
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>>29716233

Canadas just a US state with a own President
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>>29716251
I bet you think America does everything better, don't you?
Look, I'm an American born and bread. Lived here all my life. But I can at least see the writing on the wall that Canada can do everything ten times better, ten times cheaper, with ten times less people.
No way in hell they'd associate with us except on a business level.
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>>29716271
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>>29716271
>Canada can do everything ten times better, ten times cheaper, with ten times less people
Warfare
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>>29716307
They could take us over in five minutes if they wanted to.
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>>29716307
>Warfare
welfare
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>>29716322
>>29716271
Stop being silly
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Remember, we dodged a huge bulet already

http://ramtrak.tumblr.com/post/158674206899/mylittlenanaki-ambris-vexx-o
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>>29716251
But they don't have to listen to trump. And that automatically makes them win.
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>>29716233
Being made in America and being American are different things. Does the fact that most western animation used to be mostly made in Korea make them Korean?
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>>29716322
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>>29716396
Wew
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>>29716428
No, because with the western cartoons being animated in Korea, the writing, storyboarding, and voices were recorded in the US or Canada. MLP, by contrast, is produced from start-to-finish in Vancouver, so I consider it Canadian. The only American thing about it is the copyright holder of the franchise on which it is based.
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>>29716396
Dear God.
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>>29716445
The point isn't that 2-D theatrical animation is being made in America, The point is it's being made FOR America
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the mane six will all become alicorns at the end of the movie and starlight and her new friends will take over the series with the six as guardians and advice givers.
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>>29716396
is this proof hasbro really cares and has our best interests at mind?
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>>29716396
Would you rather have a traditional adventure movie written by Miller, Haber and Merriwether, or the Sony special written by Faust, Larson and AKR?
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>>29716410

No they instead have to listen to a guy who when a giant forestfire broke out refused american and british help, and instead imported Nigerian Firefighters with canadian taxmoney.

And then they refused to help put out the fire.
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>>29716470
So it's a conclusion. Cool.
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>>29716470
I wonder how this would affect Season 10.

>>29716473
More like their looking out for themselves. Before Faust and her team started G4, MLP was a fucking joke and was selling like shit. A retarded SMURFS knockoff would be a box office shitshow and Hasbro would be the one to suffer for it. Sony loses a couple million from such a fiasco, Hasbro would lose the public's respect of it's highest grossing IP.
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>>29716473

I really think hasbroh isnt as bad as people make them out to be. Maybe a bit slow.
But hey, the TCG is great, Tales of Equestrias fun too, and imagine if Disney owned MLP. This fandom would have been sued to death in 2011.

Also, yeah, not letting Sony do their bullshit.
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>>29716396

Christ, put a warning on that. Just imagining that scenario has me in a cold sweat. Though at first I read it as "character enters the real world and finds love" so it wasn't the absolute worst thing possible.
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>>29716396
Sony wanted a meta movie starting a down on his luck Brony and CGI ponies help him get a girlfriend

How awful
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>>29716558
>>29716438
>>29716458
>>29716473
>>29716475
>>29716524

Here have the full leaked email from the CEO (who got fired later on for leaks like these)

IMAGINE

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/951613-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic
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>>29716498
He was also planning on paying them less than the canadian minimum wage. Don't complain when people get pissed when you're trying to break your own law and use them as foreign slave labor.
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>>29716233
Sure you are, you're our hat.
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>>29716636

I dont see how that makes Trudeau in any way or form better

Im not saying he shouldnt have gotten them because they want a decent wage.
Im saying he shouldnt have gotten them because murca is literally the only nation bordering them and has many professionals who would have helped very efficient.
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>>29716615

>this spelling
>this wordstructure
>cuz

This is written by a CEO. a highly paid "proffesional"

Holy Fucktitties, I will never complain about Hasbroh again.
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>>29716396
what is an alicorn im so confused
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>>29716697
and you know what part is the scariest?
Hasbro is known for using cheap tricks into their merchandise(aka being full jews) but that's completely expected......however,reading this,it makes you think that Hasbro looks good in comparison to Sony's incompetence

either that or Hasbro...really wants to please its public this time
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>>29716697
If you're rich, you don't have to be competent.

the sad thing is, the people at the top of the economic ladders aren't there because they're the best, they're there because connections usually.
the top of the business world is a giant nepotistic web, a neo-aristocracy of sorts. there's a massive barrier to entry in that if you're not related to someone who's rich or already in the group, your not getting in: They don't want other people coming in and putting their comfy jobs at risk.


This is one of the big reasons why companies go for such low hanging fruit so often like the chipmunks shit: If it doesn't knock it out of the park, so fucking what? It isn't a giant failure and does what its expected to do. You're safe. Your job ISN'T to succeed, its to AVOID FAILURE. so long as you don't screw up, your connections will keep you employed making 6 figure salaries. While if you mess up taking a risk, your fucked, and you don't get a huge amount of benefits from taking a risk and making it big either when your already one of the 1%.
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>>29716697
You'll be amazed to discover how incompetent some professionals are.
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>>29716615

>the crysatl empire and canderlot?
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>rarity's the only one with personality
at least he has taste
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>>29716876

*she
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>>29716615
I never thought I'd say this one day but than you Hasbro. Thank you for having prevented this.
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>>29716888
>than you
*thank you
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>>29716250
I've seen a work print, it's about on par with the lesser two-parters in the series.
Bronies will jizz over it, the rest of the world will just be "meh". It's not Disney, or Dreamworks, or even Sony Animation.
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>>29716913
>I've seen a work print
Let us see it too.
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On the downside, we're not going to get any starswirl the bearded or alicorn lore like they wanted to do originally. So that shit will remain eternally a secret.
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>>29716396
>>29716558
Just imagine somewhere in an alternate universe this is happening and that /mlp/ is freaking the fuck out.
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>>29716888
trips of truth
remember,Hasbro only thinks about money,nothing else

nonetheless,they have learned a lot by the economic explosion of gen 4 and the failure on sales in the 2000s

capitalism taught a lesson to Hasbro and MLP ironically is a mature franchise that has suffered multiple ups and downs for decades
the numbers show that when the most and stable income they have received is from this decade which fortunately it translates to them into something that has a minimum of quality
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>>29716615
>who is shining armour
Oh god..
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>>29716146
>they are dropping flash and actually doing traditional animation
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>>29716931
I wonder how many anons killed themselves in universe 68-B?
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>>29716876
Personality translates to muh feminism
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>>29716615
>http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/951613-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic
Wait, WTF does Wikileaks have to do with MLP?
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>>29716957
You'd be surprised at what they cover.
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>>29716182

We won't know just how much of it is drawn frame-by-frame (ie traditionally) until we see the first trailer.
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>>29716984
I imagine it's all done in Toonboom. The show is done entirely in Flash, no?
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>>29716957
Its not about MLP specifically. When Sony made and released the interview (you know, about people humiliating and assasinating Glorious leader), Best korea hacked them in retaliation, stole WHATEVER they could get their shit covered hands on, and then released it to the public to try and get back at sony.


Ponies are just random shit they could get with their hack, amongst a shit ton of OTHER crap. We just know about the ponies bronies saw that and keep repeating it.
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>>29716233
Faust is an American, but he mainly meant that this was a film being released in America.
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>>29716146

I still see no earthly reason not to take a giant shit all over the whole phony thing.
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>>29716932
its simple economic theory really; if you want customers, make a quality product not a shit one. Its how businesses work.

Things tend to work cyclically; you get a product that's high quality, it makes it big, and gets a bunch of consumers. Then the higher ups start getting greedy and going "but what if we cut THIS out or skimped on money HERE, or whored it out in this way?" and cut at the product in bits and pieces in order to show to the board Hey, *I* personally saved this money! Give me a bonus check for it!"

Eventually, consumers reach a breaking point and backlash against it, cutting sales, and forcing corporate to relinquish and stop fucking with the product and give their workers (who actually know what the fuck they're doing) freedom.
Then, once everything's working again, the cycle starts all over again.


Corporate philosophy can be likened to drowning someone slowly. You hold the product underwater until it starts to drown, then let it up for air, then repeat the process again and again.
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>>29716615
>Except for Rarity they don't have much personality.
And these fuckers wanted to make a movie?
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>>29716410

Just be sure not to say anything the Government disapproves of, or you will be hunted down, apprehended, prosecuted, and jailed.
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>>29716445
>the writing

If I recall, most of the writers are or were Americans.
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>>29717062
Rarity is best pony. Accept it. I bet you're a dashfag.
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>>29717028
>cut at the product in bits and pieces in order to show to the board Hey, *I* personally saved this money! Give me a bonus check for it!"
Reminder that this is already happening. Larson has talked about this exact behavior on the part of the Hasbro execs (pic related, I couldn't find the more direct quote, but this one's close). G4 has been extraordinarily successful and now everyone and their dog wants to attach their name to it however they can.
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>>29717162
> t. applefag
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>>29716396

Is Hasbro the hero now after seeming like the villain with Pony products for six or seven years?
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>>29716146
The movie is going to get 2/5 stars at best. It's already a clusterfuck just based on what we've seen from the deluge of new characters. Hasbro's only doing this on their end to market all the tie-in toys while all those actors are in it because the studio had obligations to meet guild criteria and figured they could one-shot it with a kid's movie. There's going to be WAY too many subplots here for this to be even somewhat enjoyable, and none of them are going to be fleshed out simply because there is no time to do so what with everything else going on.

Want to know how the movie will play out?

>threat to Equestria detected
>table sends mane6 to various locations to locate the deus ex machina they need to beat bad guy
>meet new friends, sing forgettable songs
>fight bad guy
>betrayed by a friend
>why u do this hurrrrrr
>filler shit
>fight bad guy again, friend helps
>the day is saved
>season 12 confirmed
>Muffins cameo

And only the paid shills will give a fuck and it will rank ~40% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.
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>>29717235
I want Mr. Enter to get back on the ride just to bash the movie when it comes out.
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>>29717205
No, they're more like the USSR during WW2, still a fucking rotten villain, just they're fighting Giga-satan like we are.
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>>29717162
You are right about Rarity, but the reason I love this show is because the other characters also have a lot of personality.
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>>29717163
So much greed. What can writers do against such reckless consumerism.
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>They're going to have a really poorly fitting pop song in there by Sia because Zootopia had a really poorly fitting pop song by Shakira

I hate this trend in animation.
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>>29717028
Or if you are tom kirby you never back down.
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>>29717478
LET IT GO
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>>29717499
At least that was actually a fucking part of the story that made sense, Zootopia and MLP had/are having the characters go to fucking pop concerts to hear the song that is going to be commercialized to all hell.
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>>29717235
>he is not excited for temptest shadow.
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>>29716271
Leaf pls go
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>>29717513
no, this actually makes sense. The mane six are getting a Celebration thrown in their honor for having saved equestria like 20 times, and she's the entertainment.

basically, celestia suddenly realized "OH WOW. FUCK. I never gave anyone but twilight a celebration party for this crap" and throws one. Sia's there. Then storm king attacks and shit gets fucked up.

At the end, they go back and do the party again as a closing page, with her doing the song.
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>>29717516
Any gains from character and worldbuilding are minimized when you have to divide them half a dozen times on top of your normal characters and the few fan favorites who are expected cameos.
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>>29717162
I don't disagree with you but what I'm saying is that all the characters have unique personalities that each waifufag loves.
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Why the hell are they advertising the extras so much and not the mane six though?
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>>29717163
>Larson wanted to do a Celestia episode
>He never could
>Now he hates the work environment of DHX so much he'll never return to MLP

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
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>>29717737
Hey, he's said he'd be happy to return if he had time in twitters before.

If they eased up on him, things could get good; Hasbro keeps its finger to the pulse of things, they understand when they're going TOO overboard. With the movie over, they might snap back to putting more effort in.
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>>29717163
>>29717737
>tfw sunfag
HAHAHA FUCKING END ME, DAWG
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>>29717737
NEVER EVER
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>>29717163
Didn't Larson also say that the writers don't even watch each other's episodes, leading to a lack of coherence in the plot?
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>>29717163
>>29717737
>Based fucking Larson could have given us a Celestia episode that wouldn't be shit
Man, I was fucking angry for a second, and it just lapsed into despair. Fuck everything.

>>29717827
Yeah, that was him. He also said that executives change scripts without notifying the writers.
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>>29717163
>>29717737
>this could've been the exact Celestia episode I've always wanted
Fuck, Mitch. I've always believed in you. Please come back and save this shitfest. We need you now more than ever.
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>>29717163
This is pretty much how all content is produced. Creativity is sacrificed on the altar of productivity every day.
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>>29717914
And then you get a situation where the creators get TRUE creative freedom and make something TRULY great that will survive for untold years in the public mind
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>>29717827
Yeah, from the same interview. They're supposed to read/watch all the previous material but apparently some of them don't.

He also mentions that G.M.Berrow knows the entire series back to front, which is good news. She's writing for S7, so we know at a minimum there's one person on the writing staff who knows their shit.
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>>29718026
>writers not watching the show
Wait, this wasn't just a meme? Holy fuck.
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>>29718079
The writers right now are C listers. hasbro is literally just grabbing whoever the fuck they can to pad things out till after the movie.

How the fuck do you think HABER got to be head writer? I mean, fuck, he only wrote for some random ass failure of an anime knockoff before ponies. And then Dave rapp: FUCKING DAVE RAPP. Has not written a script in over FIVE years. He got a writing spot out of nowhere.


they're desperate right now, as hasbro's tappiing whoever they can for the movie from the show staff.
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>>29718079

its sadly a thing in many proffessions

yadda yadda yadda busy schedule , no time, fuck you you lazy piece of shit, if I could sit through a Safety Briefing every time some idiot drunkenly stapled their balls to a table for a bet you can take one day out of your schedule and watch the fucking show you are working for.
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>>29716396
holy shit anon, don't scare me like that
I'm sweating bullets just thinking about that

>>29716717
what is an alicorn i'm so confused
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>>29718168

>cue Steve, the protagonsit who is shown as loser despite beeing /fit/ having 10/10 facial structure (cause famous actor, duh) and living in a decent apartment
>he has a slight stubble and is eating chips out of the package on his sofa since he screwed it all up because he made a deal with the bad guy who works together with Sombrah for reasons
>cue Twilight trotting in "Steve..."
>"No, No Twilight, please let me allone. I screwed it up"
>cue Pikie popping out of the chipspackage "Allone? B-But Steve"
>Steve pushes her back into the chipspackage, cue her apearing in sad mode somewhere else in the room


...I cant keep writing this this feels to acurate already and Im afraid to get hired by Sonypictures and shooting myself in 5 years for what I have done
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>>29718228
Quick, Anon, before any Sony executives poach your ideas.

I'd watch a movie about a guy losing his mind while simultaneously getting help from the colorful, energetic symptoms of his downward spiral into madness.
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>>29716615
>what does the bearded mean the other alicorn?
>what is an alicorn I'm so confused
>why does longma tell them the right door cuz they brought the extra fruit
>who and what aee ignis aquos ans aeris
>>>>Another princess?
>>29718228

>this was actually possible
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But GAIZ. We can't expect MAINSTREAM AUDIENCES to understand what each kind of pony is!

We gotta make this for the people who've never heard of pony EXCEPT for the 80s pony! that's where the REAL money is, 80s nostalgia!
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>>29718079
>>29718141
>Even writers are worse than "fans of the fandom"
Fucking wow.
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>>29718228
>>29718247

Okay, let me go on

>RD apears, hitting his shoulder, hard "Hey, dont you remember how we won that Basenball?
>"Basketball Rainbow Dash"
>"Yeah, that thing. We did it by getting you out of beeing all sad all day, and such a Los-"
>AJ cues in "REhnbow"
>"Lost... cause. Yeah. And now look at you"
>"You dont get it Rainbow Dash. I, I lost Mary to Chad, to him and this stupid growling puff of Smoke." he looks at them "None of you gets it. I DONT WANT TO SEE YOU ANYMORE; NONE OF YOU"
>"Steve we-"
>"NO. GET OUT"
>the ponys , saddened, leave. All but RD. She sighs, putting something into his hand "Flutters couldnt come, she didnt want ... culdnt see you like this. But she wanted you to have this" before she disapears out of the room too
>Steve is left allone, now looking at the thing. Its a USB stick. with a sigh Steve puts it into his Apple Notebook. It is a single songfile.
>the song is about the adventure the seven lived through, and ends with "... because Friendship is Magic"
>Steve makes fists
>jumps up, chips flying through the room "Guy, GUYS? I mean, GIRLS?"
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>>29718292
>An 80s throwback cyberpunk drama starring Ponies living in an authoritarian state as they struggle to understand their roles in the world and what the true meaning of Harmony is
>Soundtrack composed of equal parts modern Synthwave/Outrun and old 80s synthpop/darksynth
Fund it
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Hey guys, speaking of Sia being in the movie, does anyone know if there's gonna be a new song; or are they just doing the annoying thing in animation or otherwise where they stick a popular song in there somewhere and noone will understand why it was there in ten years?

Do we even know that much yet?
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>>29716470
Lol nope, they all turn into seaponies and travel to Seaquestria
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>>29718366

of all the new VA´s hired for this movie, like 50-60% are Broadway or otherwise very skilled musicians with great singing voices.

Movies gonna be chokefull of songs
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>>29718026
>>29717163
Link to the interview?
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>>29718330
STOP.
FUCKING.
GIVING.
THEM.
IDEAS.
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>>29716615
What is an Alicorn? I'm so confused.
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>>29718476

WITH SHIA LABE---LAB--- FLAGGUY AS THE PROTAGS STREETWISE SIDEKICK
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>>29718079
>President Donald Trump
Wait, this wasn't just a meme? Holy fuck.
sometimes, reality surpasses fiction and it scares me to no end
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>>29716271
>Leafposting on /MLP/
Day of the rake when?
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>>29718533
can shia lebouf even get work anymore after transformers?
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>>29717719
>few fan favorites who are expected cameos
Hopefully derpy will not be as obnoxious as she was in double rainboom.
hopefully the film will be better then double rainboom.
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>>29718026
Wait berrow is writing for the show.
This makes me happy I just hope it does not mean less books.
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>>29719070
>Haber is replaced
>Berrow is the head writer for the show

Please god let it happen
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>>29718335
Shut up and take my money.
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>>29716717
To be fair that word was never used before the show it will be this shows permanent legacy
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>>29718246
as would I just not in ponies.
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>>29716717
>>29719104
There is no such thing as show legacy, the word Alicorn comes from the italian word "alicorno" and it means "unicorn horn", Piers Anthony was the first person to use the word to describe a winged unicorn, you can confirm this on his novel Bearing a Hourglass (1984), he also used the term on many of his novels, don't spread rumors anon.
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>>29716396
There's still a large part of me that wishes The Prophecy would have come true just to bask in the ensuing shitstorm.
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So when we gonna shake up and excite at the same time making /co/ mad?
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>>29716182
It's not like they'll be doing it on cels with fucking computers we can't have any tangability.[/spoilers]
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>>29716182
Disney is shit, Princess and the Frog deserved better :(
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>>29716271
>born and bread
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>>29716473
>>29717205
No you fucking retards.

These talks with Sony are more than likely what gave Hasbro the 'great' idea to scrap the alicorn city script McCarthy made and replace it with a celebrity filled rehash of the S4 finale.
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>>29716146
>American animated
>Made by DHX which is canadian
>With canadian state money

sure is an american animated movie...
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>>29716464
>being made FOR America
>thinking that America is the center of the world.
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>>29719792
>implying it isn't
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>>29717263
Why not just wait until Brad Jones does a midnight screening of it (if there is one) he'll probably tear it to shreds. Hell he already did an EqG.
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>>29716271
>this leaf delusion
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>>29718434
http://www.horse (dash) news.net/2016/08/bronycon-2016-press-interview-series-ma.html
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>>29720485
Thanks lad.
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>>29716307
>"Defeat" third world shitholes before tactically retreating while claiming you won
WE WUZ WARRIORZ 'N SHIT
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>>29716615
>except for rarity they don't have much personality
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>>29720485
>Princess slice of life episode
>wings bantz
>against blatant pandering
>tried to bring back Renzetti's era as a story editor
>actually took his job seriously and did his homework before writing episodes
He truly is the hero we need.
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>>29720553
Alas we realized it too late.
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>>29720485
>>29720553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk8BmQW1X1g
Larson was a hero.
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>>29720613
>All these changes from the original.
Then who, or what, changed it?
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>>29720613
Leave it to Hasbro to turn potentially amazing, inspiring and justified end of the character arc and the whole show into a middle-of-the-road wankery that outright killed the character since no one knows what to do with her now. Twilight didn't deserve any of this, and Larson didn't either. Fuck.
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>>29720775
Would we not still have gotten a shitty change to her though?
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>>29720613
>this interview
I wish we've got the original version instead. This Pandora's box idea is great.
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>>29720775
Larson is a saint and friendly reminder that he gave us Moondancer as his last hoorah.
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kill yourselves degenerates
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>>29720813
Yes, and that would signify the end of the show. She achieved ascension, became the princess of magic, and there's nothing more for her to learn, the end. To leave Twilight in her previous position after that was to strip any significance her alicornhood implied, and it's the decision that made writers stumble when it comes to dealing with her now. They can't portray her as before and they can't portray her differently. She's stuck inbetween and she's mostly just avoided now because of that, which is a shame. With her being a princess there's a lot of topics that could be covered, but no one seem to approach her from that angle. It was Larson that actually used her greatly in Amending Fences to show a bit of a bittersweet lesson, and it's still one of my favorite episodes.
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>>29720856

fuck off Barney
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>>29716189
Link to the youtube video this is from?
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>>29721086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFh1axTPUsU
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>>29717163
Fuck, reading that made me sad.
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>>29720553
I wish I could take back everything bad I ever said about Larson. He actually gave a shit.
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>>29718123
>And then Dave rapp: FUCKING DAVE RAPP. Has not written a script in over FIVE years. He got a writing spot out of nowhere.
And wrote two awesome and one decent episodes.
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>>29716146
I did know about this movie untill I saw this.I got the hypes.
>>29716251
That's fuckin' dumb m8
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>>29721439

Its called Banter ya Leaf
Why cant you be like your cousin, Straya?
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>>29716271
Canada is a puppet state to the US.
As it has been and always will be. :^)
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>>29721989
>implying it isn't the other way around
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>>29720553
I thought people were hating on him ironically but I'm having a hard time believing people actually disliked him. Seriously he was always there for us and really wanted the very best
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>>29721005
kis madame viscogon
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Reminder that the villain of the movie is basically tirek 2.0

>The herd of brave ponies comes eye to eye with their biggest enemy. The mischievious Storm King decides to steal all of the magic from their home Kingdom of Equestria. In order to save it, the brave heroes have to set out to a journey full of adventures. They will make new friends like seaponies or good pirates and will live through many emotional and funny turn of events to once again prove that friendship is magic.
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>>29718335
would fucking pay good money to watch
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>>29722496

Still better option than the smurf scenario planned by sony
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>>29716233
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