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Starlight's going to become a princess before the other 5 get aknowledged by the common folk of equestria as anything but "twilight's friend"
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>>29596742
>they all achieved their dreams
>not good enough
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>>29596742
Good.
I never wanted any of them to become celebrities or live in a castle. Glimglam can become a princess. She's the perfect crash test dummy for the new writers.
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>>29596742
They should all have been unicorns and the show should have taken place in Canterlot rather than ponyville.
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>>29596752
>they all achieved their dreams
>Grow apples
>???
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Gas all Glimmerfags
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>>29596836
it was literally her dream.
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>>29596836
Her real dream is to get bred.
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>>29596836
Her special talent is NEVER FUCKING LEAVE THE FARM, and that's all she wants.
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>>29596836
Applejacks issue as a character is that she has NO goals or dreams in life; this gives the writers nothing to do with her since they can't make episodes about her working towards a goal like with dash or Rarity.

she literally just wants to sit in her house going "Ahm happy because appuls" all her life. Even FAUST gave her something to work for, even if it was just "I want to make money because we're poor".
>>29596799
Filly funtasia?
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>>29596742
Pisses me off, where's fluttershy's reward for reforming the god of chaos himself?

Fuck, dash's sonic rainboom was more special magic than Twilight's "Spell" she made in magical mystery cure
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>>29596912
Inferior races get nothing
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>>29596882
>she has NO goals or dreams in life; this gives the writers nothing to do with her since they can't make episodes about her working towards a goal
>gives the writers nothing to do with her
Applejack's family and their farm is what matters the most to her, and both offer plenty of opportunities for conflicts to build a story on. Rainbow Dash is worse off. She's a Wonderbolt, but they have to slide that under the rug for convenience because if she was expected to take it as seriously as the other Wonderbolts, then she wouldn't be around in Ponyville anymore.
Also, Wonderbolt episodes are boring as fuck.
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>>29596926
Cadence was a pegasi.
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>>29596986
Not canon
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>>29596929
Dash has daring do for episodes and she wants to emulate her; Fuck, if the blunderbolts didn't exist, Dash's goal in life would be to become a Freelance artifact thief like her.
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>>29596998
books are too canon.
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>>29597079
No they aren't
S6 premier proved it
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>>29596998
>GM Berrow
>Commissioned by Hasbro as a lore expanding book for the show
>Not canon
k

>>29597086
In what way, anon.
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>>29597096
Celestia and Luna weren't born as alicorns
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>>29597115
but they were. they said there hasnt been an alicorn birth in equestria, and there hasnt. equestria was founded without them by the 3 pony tribes and they came in later with star swirl.
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>>29597115
"That equestria has seen"
Alicorns both predate equestria's founding and come from other locations. No alicorn has been born since Equestria was Founded.

Granted, this is partially because Celestia and Luna seem to have an aversion to fucking it seems.
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>>29596912
>Reforming discord
Oh, you mean the bastard who backstabbed fluttershy like it was nothing?
TWILIGHT reformed discord, Fluttershy's actions mean shit. And Dash just flew fast, that means nothing. Its now canon that tons of ponies, like the wonderbolts, can fly that fast, Dash is utterly unimpressive, she's nothing special. I mean, good god, Lightning dust was better than she was.

NONE of the other 5 deserve shit. none of them. Not a single one of them is impressive nor do they deserve any reward of any kind. They're lucky they get to go on missions with twilight, that's how pointless they are.
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>>29597168
>Oh, you mean the bastard who backstabbed fluttershy like it was nothing?
>TWILIGHT reformed discord, Fluttershy's actions mean shit.
alright you fuck, its time for show discussion.

fluttershy was the first creature, presumably in all the universe, who decided discord could be a friend. this entire concept was new to him, as is shown by his shitty attitude and cheeky approach to "friendship."

fast forward to tirek since thats what youre talking about. everyone was already waiting for discord to betray them, except fluttershy. discord figured that none of them actually thought of him as a friend despite what they said because of this. he even challenged fluttershys friendship with him by saying "surely you saw this coming."

now this is important anon. it all happened in like 5 seconds and it wasnt directly pointed out by the show. discord expected fluttershy to join along with the others and talk about what a piece of shit he is and how she never should have trusted him. but she didnt. she was genuinely hurt because she genuinely trusted him. this is when he has his "i fucked up" moment because this is the moment he realized she really was his friend and he just betrayed her. he turns away when tirek drains her because hes ashamed of his actions. you cant feel shame without feeling regret.

by now it was too late for him to do anything about it though. tirek was already too strong and so he attempted to play it off, but was betrayed shortly after. he spend the rest of the episode feeling like a piece of shit and even apologizes to fluttershy without any cheek or sarcasm. it was heartfelt and sincere, and he has shown nothing but a overly protective attitude for her ever since.

also dash set all the wonderbolt records which implies shes still the fastest.
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>>29597251
>also dash set all the wonderbolt records which implies shes still the fastest.
She still gets beat by Spitfire, who's... not that impressive.
>>29597251
Then why was discord's Apology and thanks directed to TWILIGHT and not fluttershy?

Twilight is the truly important one in relationship to discord, not fluttershy; its why we've had a shit ton of twilight-discord episodes and virtually none for fluttershy-discord apart from the smooze one.
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>>29597285
i think its time you rewatch the episode.
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>>29596929
Shit I thought the wonderbolt episodes were always pretty fun, it helped that the wonderbolts looked physically pretty great, and those hairstyles tho
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>>29596742
of course glimmer deserves to be an alicorn. This was apparent from the start She understands friendship better than twilight and her destiny is to rule others. She's wiser than celestia in the comics, more competent than Twilight in the season six finale, and the best unicorn mage that has existed, even more than starswirl.

I'm glad its been shown she's going to be in the movie. I was worried for a bit.
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Also, what the fuck is Pinkie Pie accomplishing, aside from shoving her autism in the audience's face?
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>>29597382
her goal in life is to bring joy to others.
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>>29597391
She's accomplishing the opposite.
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>>29597391
If she's been doing that since she was 7, how is there any real conflict for her now?
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>>29597397
misery is eternal.
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>>29597411
Dubs confirm misery is eternal.
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>>29597382
Twilight's been dumping her princess of friendship duties on pinkie; Like dealing with the Yakyakistanians, and fixing her friendship with Moondancer.
She's a better diplomat than twilight at least.
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>>29597396
>>29597397
she works as a baker to see the joy in others' eyes when a simple pastry can make their morning or shitty day better
she throws parties to let others know that someone will always appreciate and celebrate them
there will always be someone who needs encouragement to smile, a laugh to make them feel better
>>29597411
as he says, misery is eternal, so she pushes everyday to make others happy

what about the episode where literally all of pony broke down into anger, pettiness and fights because there wasn't someone there to give them all a smile?
when a simple song and yelling for them to smile fixed the days of everyone present?
the laughter and brightness she brings to others' lives is the most wonderful life goal, and also the hardest in my eyes.
she bears the sorrow of all she meets, from the very first day that she greets them with a smile
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>>29596742
Nice try Glimmerdude.
So far only one Unicorn, besides Twilight, has earned her wings.
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>>29597485
And I don't see any Element of Harmony, do you?
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>>29597485
Let's shill Hasbro to give her permanent wings, she earned it, having the background, the talent and the achievement. The only thing Glimmertrash deserves is a painful death. As for the M5, you could argue that Rarity and Fluttershy could be princesses, but the others, meh.
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>>29597436
I found what I was referencing
https://youtu.be/eNvVzqmxYsQ?t=2m41s
the whole town was in a fucking depression, then she tells them to smile and a god damn impromptu parade is thrown together, mid song.
It's obvious she has some major impact on the happiness of those around her, given that the whole town ended up like this without her
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>>29597391
Cadence's Goal in life was to spread love to others, and she's a goddess now.
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>>29597507
yes, and again in the latest movie.
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>>29597513
>>29597513
To be honest, I think Twilight being the only princess is perfectly acceptable. And we have a good equilibrium built. Twilight is the leader and Starlight is her overpowered student in Equestria, just as Sunset is the leader and Scilight is her overpowered student on Earth.
But if Starlight thinks she's ascending before Sunset then we got problems.

>>29597537
No I'm saying Sunset HAS an element whereas Starlight does not.
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>>29597522
a goddess who can't even run her own kingdom or raise her child without the help of some random sperg that was friends with donutsteeltwilight 3.0
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>>29597548
There's lots of characters that are more deserving of ascension in front of Starshit. Even Spike. Fucking Spike has more rights of being an alicorn princess than Glimmer
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>>29596742
Hasbro's strategy
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>>29597577
replace glimglam with your shitty opinion and audience with /mlp/
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>>29597577
Pretty much
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>>29597577
What Hasbro's strategy SHOULD be.
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>>29597513
>but the others, meh.
Hey, someone has to run the countries military and control its skies!
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>>29597548
>To be honest, I think Twilight being the only princess is perfectly acceptable
Well, they already shoved in Candyass and Hate Fuck, so it's not like they cannot create more princesses. Just make sure they are deserving of their position instead of showing up out of nowhere
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>>29597592
You do realize that, regardless of Shimmerfags views, Sunset's not that popular, right? The kids don't care about her that much, hence her demotion and the lack of toys for her.
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>>29597595
RD is too petty, mean spirited and full of herself to be worthy of ascension. She's barely better than Glimmer.
Likewise, Applejack is too small-minded, and Pinkie, no, just no. She cannot be trusted with magic. But Rarity has potential, and Fluttershy should have been made a princess already, as she reformed the motherfucking god of chaos. That's a pretty big deal, it's a lot more than what Cadance did to get her position.
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>>29597285
is this fluttercord damage control?
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>>29597635
>RD is too petty, mean spirited and full of herself to be worthy of ascension
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>>29597595
Shit that looks cool. And probably a good indication of why they shouldn't award godhood to Dash. I do not want to think about the havoc she could cause as an Alicorn.

>>29597605
I feel like one of these days they're gonna have to explain the nature of Celestia and Luna. You know why they're immortal, or at least long lived, and why other Alicorns keep being created or born in the case of the Pony Muad'dib later renamed Flurry Hearts.

>>29597616
And just because season 6 went heavy on the Starlight push doesn't necessarily mean she's popular. Comprende, amigo?
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>>29597568
they tried having spike as a princess, it failed because being raised by an autist stunted his ability to judge things from a rational perspective, ask for help when it is clearly needed, or bite the bullet and admit that the weight he is trying to bear is crushing him.

He cracked under pressure because all of the responsibilities that were shoe-horned onto his plate weren't delegated properly to even out the weight of his responsibilities.
the number one skill of a leader is learning how to delegate responsibilities without being careless or failing to manage those who are taking on the weight.
twilight attempts to use lists to make it seem like she can bear all of the weight of her obscene self-appointed responsibilities, thus he learned that organization is always be a replacement for dividing a work load, despite the fact that her various breakdowns when she inevitably is crushed by the responsibilities she is unwilling to mete out to others.

A perfect counter to this is celestia.
she may be the head of the country, but I'm certain she has figured out a near-perfect trickle-down system of government where despite her making the final calls and running the country, she puts much of the weight on the system she has built, so she can focus on diplomatic and judicial responsibilities.
A fair example is her asking twilight to host the Yaks. She could have done it herself, but it is clearly a stressful job, requiring much micro-management and research into their culture, and she knew that it would be a better choice to allow twilight and her friends to bear the weight of that event, freeing her up to perform her duties more efficiently.
the reason spike, and even twilight aren't suited to rule, is because they try to bear all of the weight. twilight is doing better with this, since she is learning to ask her friends for help, but spike hasn't had these same experiences and adventures, meaning he hasn't really learned to count on others to help him
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>>29596752
What was Fluttershy's dream?
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>>29597666
to live among the animals, satan.
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>>29597666

Nice trips
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>>29597666
To become a tree
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>>29597616
wew laddie
Sunset just got 2 new toys announced, one of them being a whole playset
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>>29597655
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>>29597695
>romance beating slice of life
>CMC this hated
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>>29597666
To create an animal uprising and rule over them as the Forest god that kills all Interlopers to protect her children.
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>>29597695
Glimmerniggers BTFO
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>>29597695
So did everyone else for the toyline. And Glimmer got a toy and she's not even IN the equestria girls series.
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>>29597742
You can't Glim Glam the Shim Sham!
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>>29597684
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>>29597746
But Glimmer is going to be in one of the shorts this Summer
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>>29597655
>Shit that looks cool. And probably a good indication of why they shouldn't award godhood to Dash. I do not want to think about the havoc she could cause as an Alicorn.
Can't be any worse than what luna's gotten up to over her tenure.
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>>29597742
that was in S5, her popularity exploded after S6. She's literally the most popular character in the series now after the S6 finale.
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>>29597728
Honestly were you expecting better from EqD?
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>>29597742
>10880 vs 617 votes
>60.9% vs 3.5%

Holy shit, I had no idea it was so lopsided. Are glimmerfags even trying? How they will ever recover from this?
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>>29597799
How will they recover? Season six is how. And they did.
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>>29597771
She's not going to be in the specials besides maybe having a background appearance, just like the discord dolls in the rainbow rocks short.
Nobody likes her, and she's not going to be featured for more than a quick toy advertisement for the hell of it, just like how there was a chrysalis toy but not chrysalis in the series.
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>>29597772
Luna was a born alicorn, like Flurry. But yeah, if she was born as a normal pony, it's highly unlikely she would ever ascend. Maybe it was the knowledge of this that drove her inferiority complex and corruption.
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>>29597838
Chrysalis didn't get a Flash model like that
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>>29597848
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>>29597812
And where's the evidence that attitudes towards Starshit changed after season 6? Show it, faggot
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>>29597881
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>>29597838
>this delusion
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>>29597839
Becoming an alicorn or being born an alicorn both involve destiny; Celestia herself said that Flurry heart being born indicated there was a purpose for her existence.
Divine right of kings exists in the pony universe, so Luna being born was just as significant as a pony ascending.
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>>29597896
>Poll from Autism Daily
>"proof"
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>>29597896
That doesn't compare her to any other pony though
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>>29597915
She also won the poll for Who did you like best from Season 5 (that's bullshit slander about those votes being fake)
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>>29597537
I remember realizing the significance of her colour being part of the rainbow for the first time. I'm so proud of her.
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>>29596742
S7 finale, calling it now. And daydream form in the EQG specials this summer.
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>>29597896
So you go with a poll that was heavily biased towards voting for Glimmer while dividing up her detractors. Riiight good poll there
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>>29597913
>>29598010
WWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH HOW CAN PEOPLE LIKE WHAT I DON"T LIKE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>29597989
i recall a big argument afterwords about what element she was. i suggested forgiveness for various reasons. much later i guess the writers had a discussion about what element glimmer and sunset should officially be. i forgot the outcome, but i think one of them ended up as forgiveness.
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>>29598010
Guess who gets the most activity on this board? Hint: she's purple and pink and super powerful.
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>>29598056
Well why wouldn't Twilight Sparkle be? She's the main character of the show after all
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>>29596742
if she does, the series would go from bad, to irredeemable shit
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>>29598030
I don't doubt that they like her, but it's no secret that the EQD community is heavily biased against any form of criticism against the show or any of the characters. There could be an episode that was nothing but 30 minutes of Discord struggling to squeeze out a shitlog and the EQD community would give it a 10/10 rating
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>>29598075
do you ever stop and ask yourself why you think this?
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>>29598069
twilight doesn't even get half the activity that starlight gets on this board.
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>>29597785
she gets less fanart than sunset, who gets half of applejack
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>>29598117
shitposting doesnt count as activity, friend.
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>>29598056
>>29598117
Shitposts don't count as activity
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>>29598142
But not thread activity on fansites. she gets MASSIVE thread activity. Its like 20% of this boards threads about starlight.
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>>29598146
>>29598147
>every thread I don't like is a shitpost
ebin
Even more pathetic is going to every single thread and crying that it's actually a "shitpost thread". You missed a few btw.
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>>29598180
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>>29597905
The Season 5 finale proved that destiny doesn't mean jackshit in the MLP universe. If it did, then Starlight would not be able to stop the rainboom and change the course of history, because things would be "destined" to happen and couldn't be stopped.
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>>29598219
but in the end she didnt stop it, anon.
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>>29598219
>>29598236
This. In the end, everything she did was as nothing, and Destiny DID happen.
You can't use that as proof of destiny not existing when it ended up prevailing in the end.
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>>29598236
She stopped it a gajillion times, and created alternate timelines. The one where she didn't stop is just one timeline.
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>>29598236
But she could have.
She made a choice to stop screwing time over and allowing events to play itself over after seeing the world unravel into a wasteland.

Its nowhere near the same as Twilight's ascension or Flurry's birth where either have a choice in deciding things. She could have just as easily kept this cycle going until either they can't go any further or something else happens.
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>>29598262
No, there is no alternate timeline scenario here, the Setup was that there was ONE timeline, and only one, and starlight and twilight existed outside of time which is why they were immune.

They didn't alter anything but the single timeline.
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>>29598257
Choice isn't destiny
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>>29598268
But she DIDN'T. The point of destiny is that you COULD technically screw it, but in the end you DON'T because your free will itself is subservient to destiny.
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>>29597896
That's a 53.26% approval rate, which means that a majority of the fandom wants more of her.
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This destiny talk makes me want an episode where one of the mane six has to take on a responsibility but feels its against their destiny in life with their cutie mark, and getting a "That's more of a suggestion" moral in the end.


Maybe applejack or fluttershy since they have nothing to go on for the show writers.
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>>29598268
>But she could have
but she didnt.
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>>29598279
>>29598294

But that would imply that everything was already predetermined, which it wasn't and isn't.

The only time that was the case was when Twilight sent herself back in time to inform her past instance of events to come, only for events to repeat themselves

Twilight admitted herself that her battle against Starlight would ultimately shape the future.

Starlight didn't keep this struggle going because she -chose- not to after so many resets and her own considerations of what was at stake. To accept that destiny is absolute and cannot be defied or circumvented (which it temporarily was during this conflict) from all the alterations created is straight up false.

She chose to allow things to play its course as it "ought to", but her choice was from the efforts of another - not destiny itself.
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>>29598328
>which it wasn't and isn't.
Making alot of assumptions there. Nothing changed despite everything that happened, which kind of implies that pre-destination exists.
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>>29598351
not to mention the table stayed in each new timeline despite twilight obviously not being around with her friends to create it in the first place.
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>>29598351
I think it's YOU that's making the assumptions here, m8.
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>>29598351
Nothing changed because the effects of their battle only existed and were contained within one timeline, as another anon mentioned.

Even Zecora noted that things were that shouldn't have been. Once the anomaly (willingly) stopped occurring (Starlight interfering with the race) of course things would fall back into place.
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>>29598374
The timeline remained unchanged, everything was guided back to normal, and you're saying that Destiny doesn't exist despite things immutably returning to normal?

The evidence is in favor of destiny, not against it.
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>>29598386
ONE timeline remained unchanged, and that's because Starlight willingly chose not to fuck with it. The whole point of the episode was to show how the changing of one tiny little thing can change everything, nothing is set on stone, and things don't spontaneously get their shit together afterwards.
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>>29598386
>The timeline remained unchanged
Yeah, because they were only messing with events that "already happened". Whenever they were altered, the timeline changed drastically.

If destiny was all-powerful, things would have fallen into place towards a certain result no matter what happened to any certain event.

Of course, once previous events were allowed to occur as they originally did in the past of that singular timeline, they ended up with the series of events they were familiar with once again.

Its not destiny at play there - its their time's sequence of events being altered (causing distortions) and then being allowed to occur as they did once before.
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>>29598430
One timeline is all that exists.
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>>29598430
>ONE timeline remained unchanged
are you even listening? why did the table exist in every timeline if it was its own timeline?
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>>29596742
it don't matter
none of this matters
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>>29598432
You're thinking small minded.

Destiny exists in a meta, unchangeable manner. The timeline was changed temporarily because in a meta way it was STILL falling back into place.

You're looking at the timeline asking why things didn't go back to normal, but you're looking at it from the view of someone INSIDE the timeline-- Outside of time, it DID go back to normal. THAT is destiny.
That reality will eventually alter time ITSELF so things fall back into place, not just in single time, but in meta-time as well.
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>>29598049
Meghan once confirmed it as Empathy, but to Hasbro is seems to be officially Redemption
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>>29598476
Its probably going to go to redemption and they'll ignore the redemption thing. That's probably something the advertising department thought up without asking the team, like the "Chivilary" thing for Flash.
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>>29598432

>If destiny was all-powerful, things would have fallen into place towards a certain result no matter what happened to any certain event.

Yes, the concept of destiny is something inevitable and inescapable. No matter how one tries to change things they will always have the same outcome, "choice" being irrelevant. In fact attempting to avoid destiny would create the very conditions to fulfill it. The S5 finale has clearly shown that outcomes CAN be changed, choice does matter, therefore destiny is not into play.
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>>29598442
Are you retarded? The table kept existing for the same reason Twilight, Starlight and Spike from the main timeline kept existing. It was stuck in the time loop. After all, it WAS the thing used to cast the time travel spell in the first place. The table survived, but the rest of the castle ceased to exist because there wasn't a princess to harness the element of magic. If destiny existed the castle would be there no matter what.
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>>29598560
Twilight stated the table existed because the tree of harmony WILLED IT, not because of any other reasons. Which implies the Tree exists outside time itself in some manner.
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>>29598510
destiny has always been a central theme to this show, and that's why it mostly sucks
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>>29598572
The tree already existed from way before the point Starlight started fucking with time, of course it would still exist. What's even your point?
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>>29598586
The episode where the CMC get their cutie marks is all about how destiny doesn't define your life.
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>destiny doesn't exist
>at the end of the day everything worked out like it was supposed to
>"IT DOESN'T EXIST THO"
is this anon dense? Like >>29598466 says, you're thinking too small. Yes in that individual sequence of events someone succeeded in altering the course of events inside their little 'loop'. But what happened? That eventually stopped. Things returned to how they were supposed to be, THAT'S destiny, it works on a scale wholey above everything else, and like other fiction with overriding destiny, Starlight stopping was what was supposed to have happened, she didn't "decide" shit, the course of things was to have her eventually stop, and stop she did. Destiny takes precedence over free will, even if the characters effected by it don't realise this.
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>>29598681
You are overthinking this. This ain't some mindfuck anime. None of your claims are even remotely verifiable.
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>>29598737
Everything went back to normal. Nothing Starlight did changed anything.
THAT is 100% verified.
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>>29598681
>Everything works out as its supposed to
See, you're going way too far. That's beyond the scope of the show's events and time itself and falls in the domain of the serie's direction and its handling to the writers.

Of course "everything works out" in the end. There's no way they will leave a finale on a massive cliffnhanger that leaves the viewers wondering which direction things will go from here. There's no way they'll have a remotely bad end.

Everything works out is not "destiny". Its the way the show itself is handled.
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>>29596882
You're a fucking idiot and have been watching too much Broadway.
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>>29598751
Things went back to normal because she CHOSE to allow that. How are you going to prove that she didn't choose out of her free will, but because destiny somehow imposed the outcome? Why things didn't magically fall into place in the timelines that she DID interfere?
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