Ding Dong the Witch is Dead

>>29265278
Holy shit there are gonna be a whole lot of newfag writers this season.

>>29265278
Literally who?

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Here's some good news.

>>29265301
Mike Vogel

The man whose brilliant ideas started with Twilicorn and ended with Starlight Glimmer

>>29265278
I won't miss the writer who completely ruined Glimmer for me. Fuck him and fuck ELTSD and its psychopath Glimmer.
I will miss the writer of the only Dash episode of the season which wasn't absolute shit tho.

>>29265310
HYPED AS FUCK

>>29265310
Who is she?

>>29265310
Her last episode was terrible.

>>29265320
The failed novelist who got stuck writing children's my little pony books as a career

>>29265326
Still better than any Vogel episode.

>>29265319
All she needs to do is adapt the story of one of her books to a 22 minute script.

>>29265310
>Berrow
Happy because she's a good writer, but I have a grudge against her because she likes the Sunset x Flash ship

>>29265362
That's Finn. Berrow doesn't touch EqG.

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>>29265400
Well then OK.

>>29265278
How can he tell me it's awesome if he doesn't even know what I want? Maybe my waifu doesn't even get an episode. That wouldn't be awesome.

>>29265472
>Maybe my waifu doesn't even get an episode. That wouldn't be awesome.
Most of the writers will be newfags, and most probably they haven't even watched the show. I will be more than happy if my waifu doesn't get an episode written by that kind of people.

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>>29265472
>>29265508
>inb4 Celestia gets 5 episodes by Neal Dusedau, Dave Rapp and Fox faggots
I don't even know anymore. I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYMORE MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOOP

>Literally no one with any knowledge about the pre S4 in this season

NEWFAG WRITTER: THE SEASON

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>>29265319
>psychopath Glimmer
Maybe Vogel is just projecting?

>pretends to be a moralfag, but still gets it wrong

They need to bring back Renzetti, then everything would get better.

>>29265588
Sometimes change is good.
Let's see it before judging it.
It might be a hanger for the better.

>>29265541
Dusdeau is out

>>29265588

inb4 twilight never was a unicorn

>>29265613
Proof?
That would actually increase my hype for S7 a lot.

>>29265604
Ron is busy on reboot Disney's DuckTales and it will premiere on Disney XD this fall.

>>29265606
Fuck off Jim.

>>29265588
Well maybe it's for the best, the show can keep going if it constantly reinvents itself.

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>>29265661
After what this show has become he probably doesn't want anything to do with it, anyway.

>>29265613
Has anyone actually asked if he touched S7?

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They just need to fire Jim and make Ishi director. Ishi at least gives a fuck about his work and has been working on the show since the beginning. He also has little kids so he probably watches the show with them.

>>29265717
This. Please.

>>29265717
>>29265732
End this meme. The EqGs he directed were shit. He's as talentless as Jim, just more shitposty.

>>29265717
This dude gets it.

>>29265717
>>29265732
hey there Ishi

>>29265736
There's no such thing as someone as talentless as Jim. Anyone would be better than him. Literally anyone. Just pick a random person on the street, he would be a better director than Jim, 100% guaranteed.

>>29265760
Not Ishi though.

>>29265736
The original script for FG that he did was amazing. Then Hasbro got involved and messed with it. Go see the FG deleted scenes.
Hasbro watches over EG much more than FiM since it's new territory for them.
Ishi is a damn good director who actually cares about his work and the characters

>>29265772
He didn't write the script. You're as bad as the retards who think Jim ruins episodes.

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>>29265769
>Not Ishi though
Jim, please.
We all know Ishi would be much better than you.

>>29265736
>The EqGs were shit
No shit faggot, EqG as a concept alone is a fucking garbage checklist of clichés if there are no signifficant twists to it.

>>29265760
t. Salty Faustfag

>>29265769
Ishi has never used "it's for little girls" as an excuse for bad writing, that makes him a million times better than Jim in my book.

>>29265772
>Hasbro wouldn't ever interfere with FIM scripts.
Kill yourself.

You don't deserve a more in depth response.

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Ishi tried but EG is under heavy control by higher ups. Their decisions make his work look bad.
It's not his fault.

>>29265797
That's not an excuse, that's his drive. Like, he wants to make something for little girls because they don't have anything good.

>>29265798
>>Hasbro wouldn't ever interfere with FIM scripts
I didn't say that, faggot. I know Hasbro watches over FiM and alters scripts to better pander and sell toys, I'm just saying EG is under much more control than FiM by Hasbro.
Don't exaggerate my words

>>29265804
executive decisions used to be synonymous with "mike vogel's decision" but he since left the executive side to meddle directly with the show, i wonder who is the latest power tripping exec

>>29265797
Ishi may not say it, but EqG is gutter trash "entertainment" for dumb kids. Like seriously step outside of the fandom and realize how shitty these movies are inherently.

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>>29265811
Wow, you really are going all out to defend him.
You either really hate Ishi for some reason or have a massive hard on for Jim

>>29265508
Well, that's a thought to think. I really hope she gets to have simple secondary roles, then. I just want to see her, and hear her voice, and know she's still her normal self. She doesn't need to be the one the conflict is focused on.

>>29265832
EqG is shit, that's all I know.

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A popular and well-received show runs for a long time, throws out its old good writers in favor of less-experienced newbies who have no idea how to write the characters, and drops in quality as a result.

Where have I seen this before?

>>29265823
Megan. Shes head of girls entertainment so I would think it would be her and the corporate suits above her.

>>29265606
Yeah, a hanger.
Hanger as in I'm gonna hang myself if it's just as bad or worse.

>>29265820
>There is zero control over FIM scripts. All changes happened because of DHX.
Anyone who makes this statement is fucking retarded.

And where is the proof to suggest EQG has more control than FIM from Hasbro besides the assumption that it's a terrrible Jem clone instead of horse.

>>29265839
Didn't Aaron Springer (episodes like Band Geeks) stay on well into later seasons?

>>29265606
>hanger
Change*

>>29265811
That's bullshit. No one who wants to do something good for girls uses "it's for little girls" as an excuse. He can come up with as many beautiful and heartwarming stories as he wasn't, but when you use something like that as an excuse it's because you actually think that it's an excuse. Fuck him. I lost all respect I had fit him that day. He's a miserable failure who shouldn't be allowed to work on shows for children.

>>29265862
>>There is zero control over FIM scripts
I never said this. Stop putting words in my mouth. I know there is a lot of control over FiM. How fucking stupid are you?

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>>29265278
And yet EQG is mourning his departure from the show. How?

>>29265868
Faust had that exact drive. "It is for little girls, who don't have much, so it needs to be good and be for them."

I think Ishi Ruddel is someone who wants to put effort into his stuff, but I think Hasbro influence and writer apathy always kills the films. Ishi Ruddel couldn't do much to make the LOE story entertaining, it was a mess of a plot to begin with.

Hell Ishi Ruddel is actually pretty okay with people wanting sci-fi in EQG or to see what human Sunset is up to.

>>29265884
EQD, sorry. I was distracted by all the talk about Equestria Girls.
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/01/mike-vogel-not-returning-as-writer-for.html

Ishi is a hack fraud riding the coattails of Meghan's "success" with RR #trufax

>>29265891
Faust never used it as an excuse like Jim did, that's the difference between them and that's why I'm sure that Jim is lying.

>>29265891
no anon, faust wanted pony to be for the whole family

>>29265905
Faust always wanted to give something special to little girls above all else

>>29265891
I half-agree with this. I think MLP is a great show targeted at girls. And a great show with a central female protagonist targeted at a younger audience.

However, I think to say little girls didn't have anything overlooks shows with lots of female main characters like Danny Phantom.

>>29265892
I want to believe you and I want this to be true but I need some sauce to back up that last statement.

>>29265840
Hasbro should never ever named McCarthy as Vice President of Storytelling! She need to be fired!

>>29265918
>shows with lots of female main characters like Danny Phantom.
what did he mean by this

>>29265922
Check his Twitter, he likes that idea of Mirror!Sunset being a mechanical prodigy and having an army of robots.

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>>29265891
>>29265905
>>29265906
It doesn't matter what Faust wanted.

>>29265915
K, I think that you're missing my point. I wholeheartedly think that girls deserve a good show. I wholeheartedly think that if there's any conflict and the writers have to choose between writing something the girls like our the adults like, they should choose the former. I'm absolutely sure that Jim doesn't think the same because no one who thinks that girls deserve a good show uses "it's for little girls" as an excuse. No one. If it's your drive, it's not an excuse. Period.

>>29265880
>I completely stand by those statements I undoubtedly made.
Well, only a retard could be that stubborn.

And you still never answered my first question, how do you actually know EQG scripts get more scrutiny than the actual show's?

>>29265940
Link to that?
I don't want to search through his Twitter.

>>29265915
There's a big difference between
"I want to make something good for little girls"
and
"It's for little girls, so I don't need to make it good"

>>29265934
Nearly every hero in Danny Phantom is a lady. Danny himself is the only male hero who isn't usually played as a joke.

>>29265310
Her Pinkie episode was crap, tho.
Maybe she will have more luck with other ponies.

>>29265947
Considering it was her ideas that lead to initial massive success of the show, I'd say anylizing her thoughts and decisions probably isn't a terrible action to take.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12109077
Ishi or Jim.

>>29266236
fuck em both

I just want Berrow as story editor.

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>>29265278
>no McCarthy
>no Larson
>no Rogers
>no Vogel
>only one episode of Confalone
>rest of them are pretty much shit

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>>29266236
>one is a retard who work on Monster High rip off and shill Sunset or Flash Sentry
>another is a SJW fat fuck who can only shill for Hasbro and hide the lack of quality of recent seasons by saying that its a show for little girls

we suppose to pick the worse cancer or lesser evil?

>>29266270
Yup.
Pick one.

Jesus, you people are so negative about anything that comes from the show, it's sickening. I guess it's somewhat understandable, considering that most if you are depressive with no optimism for anything left, but still.

>>29266336
I think the show has some problems with quality despite me really liking Season 6.

The reason I want to stay optimistic is because I don't think it is hard to make MLP really fun again.

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>>29266336

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>>29265278
>no Haber
>no Vogel

but also no Larson and no Mccarthy

So who is going to story edit S7?

I can only guess either Lewis&Songco (because they just like Haber used to write Equestria Girls movie) or GM Berrow (experienced as the book writer and also hang out with McCarthy)

>>29265311
>Twilicorn and ended with Starlight Glimmer
>Implying Twilicorn was even a remotely good idea so early in the shows story arc

>>29266520
it was sarcasm, anon

>>29265311
Idea of turning Twilight into an Alicorn was mostly Stephen Davis along with Vogel

>>29266223
Not that anon, but whatever Faust wanted to do is long gone and in the past by now. Twilicorn, blowing up the tree house, reforming Discord, adding modern dressing to the setting, and all that jazz kind of blew all the themes and feel apart.

If this guy is the exec that ruined the show, he's probably bailing on season 7 because it's going to be the final one and it's looking at budget cuts or something. These guys want to ride success and tell the higher ups they made a project better. They don't want to be there when the gravy train is ending.

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>>29266520

>>29266236
I tweeted the results to Ishi.
I hope no one shares them with Jim...

>>29266535
>>29266603
Alright m8tys you can put the deetz on me for not getting the joke though my mediocre opinion still stands. Twilicorn sucked being introduced to us so early along in the timeline and probably should of been introduced during the upcoming film.

>>29265789
>implying that's an insult
Stay mad, newshit

Safe to assume S7 premieres late Spring/early Summer?

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>>29265310
Man, this got me hype. Every time I read one of Berrow's books, I'm upset that it wasn't an episode.

>>29267216
I'd say around beginning to mid spring.

>>29267231
Nice, won't be long now. I just have to find another medium to channel my autism until then.

>>29265310
>good news
>good
>news
The writer of "the one where pinkie knows" returning is good news to you? That's like if a dashfag says dave rapp returning is good news.

>>29267241
but that was a good episode.

>>29266549
It was mainly the idea of Hasbro's toy department, really
>>29266506
>>29267222
>>29266244
What's all this shilling around Berrow? He only wrote one episode which was shit
>>29267216
It should be early spring if they want to finish it up by the time the movie gets released

>>29267263
she writes good books

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>>29267272
>good books
You mean those pony chapter books? If they are considered good nowadays, then this board really lowered their standards

>>29267312
What was the last one you actually read?

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>>29265278
>>29265310
Holy shit

I don't know if I should hype or fear

>>29267263
Allow me to share her additional writing credits:
1.Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell
2.Pinkie Pie and the Rockin Ponypalooza Party!
3.Rainbow Dash and the Daring Do Double Dare
4.Rarity and the Curious Case of Charity
5.Applejack and the Honest-to-Goodness Switcheroo
6.Fluttershy and the Fine Furry Friends Fair
7.Discord and the Ponyville Players Dramarama
8.Daring Do and the Marked Thief of Marapore
9.Daring Do and the Eternal Flower
10.Daring Do and the Forbidden City of Clouds
11.Princess Cadance and the Spring Hearts Garden
12.Princess Celestia and the Royal Summer of Waves
13.Princess Twilight Sparkle and the Forgotten Books of Autumn
14.Princess Luna and the Festival of the Winter Moon
15.Equestria Girls: Through the Mirror
(The only EQG book she wrote, Perdita Finn did the rest)
16.Lyra and Bon Bon the Mares from S.M.I.L.E.
17.Starlight Glimmer and the Secret Suite
18.Trixie and the Razzle-Dazzle Ruse
19.Lyra and the Secret Agent Ponies

>>29267390
As you can see, she has no experience whatsoever, doesn't know the characters at all and will write shit episodes. You can continue your doomsaying /mlp/

>>29267390
>Has literally written for every major character except Discord and Sunset
I have faith

>>29267455
She wrote Discord too but it was just kind of mediocre, like Cadences

>>29267250
It was objectively the absolute worst fucking episode of the entire show

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>>29267332

>>29267539
xD

>>29267390
Those books don't have any wit to them whatsoever. They are right in the middle of mediocrity. Any slightly less autistic fan could write one like that

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>>29267539

>>29267046
>Twilicorn sucked being introduced to us so early along in the timeline and probably should of been introduced during the upcoming film
the reason WHY Twilicorn was "introduced so early" was because MMC was supposed to have been the finale of the FiM series

why the hell are there people who don't know this fact?

>>29265786
what an adorable meme you have
it's a bit outdated and has expired, so it's beginning to smell like shit, or is it you I'm smelling?

>>29268135
Okay then let's see you write something better :^)

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>>29265320
She put on some pounds but in this pic, unf, solid qt

>>29268392
Probably because the Hasbro execs at the time didn't know it would become THAT significant of a money mooch.

>>29268135
Which ones did you read?

>>29268421
hate this argument desu

Name ONE reason not to like The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows. It's classic comfy.

>>29265326
Still better writer than Larson

>>29268934
Different anon but I don't see how it's unfair in this case, he literally said that anyone non-austistic could write books as good.

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>>29268934
why?
Because you know you can't deliver?

>>29268916
This one

>>29268935
That episode felt like Berrow's book shoved into show's episode format.
Although her books are decent, writing for the book and the script are different and for some people her style didn't fit their taste.

>>29265905
>Faust never used it as an excuse
Neither did Jim.

>>29265606
>Anon sits at the table of DHX Diner, owned by Hasbro Inc.
>The waitress, an old hag, dressed up as EqG Pinkie Pie, stands near him with pen and notepad in hand
>The waitress coughs. "Whadda ya want?" she asks in a rasp.
>"I'll have one My Little Pony episode, please," says Anon.
>The waitress scribbles something on her notepad and walks away.
>The diner is empty.
>The kitchen to Anon's side reeks of booze and curry.
>A young woman outside is mugged underneath the moonlit sky.
>And, perhaps worst of all, the empty plate in front of Anon has a slight smearing of dried-up vomit.
>After just a brief wait, a pant-less chef shuffles to Anon's table.
>His nametag reads "Mike Vogel".
>Without a word, Vogel lifts himself up on the table, then squats down over Anon's filthy plate.
>Anon looks up at Vogel. "What are you doing?"
>Vogel looks down at Anon. "Serving your entree."
>Anon shifts his eyes to his plate, attempting to ignore the hemorrhoids and shit-stains lacing Vogel's loose asshole. He sighs.
>"You know, I remember these episodes being served on clean platters by nice waitresses. Can we go back to that?"
>Vogel scoffs. "How do you know this ain't better? It ain't even out yet. A little change is good sometimes, y'know."

>>29269031
Funny as hell, but I stand by my statement.
Change CAN be good and we won't know if it is or not till we see it.
But it won't ever be ass good as season 1 and

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>>29267390
>15.Equestria Girls: Through the Mirror
>(The only EQG book she wrote, Perdita Finn did the rest)
she wrote that garbage?

>>29268421
>>29268949
Personally not that guy but I think its because you are basically telling someone to re-invent the wheel.

if you want to read good pony stories go on fimfiction and dig around in the shit for the gold like everyone else.

>>29268994
Using "it's for little girls" as an excuse to justify bad writing is literally the worst offense I can imagine. Not only toward "us", but specially because that means that that idiot deep inside thinks that girls deserve shit. I don't understand why would anyone defend that piece of miserable human failure, but whatever makes you happy.

>>29267539
y though

>>29265892
>pretty okay with people wanting sci-fi in EQG
sauce?

>>29267250

It was pretty bad. I think entire reaction thread wa bored out of their skulls

>>29268935
You have to be really in love with Berrow to defend this episode, autistfag.

It was the 28 pranks Later kind of bad. One big joke being played for 22 minutes. Instead zombie ponies we just had Pinkie sperging about a secret that no one cares whether she tell them or not.

>>29268916
The problem with her is that not a single of her book contain any funny dialogues as she mostly write descriptice adventures that are trying to be as serious as possible. The format of her books doesn't really fit in with the format of the show. She's used to write 100 pages of description and inner thought of ponies. Not 10 pages of slapstick and dynamic dialogs or interaction. That's why Confalone wrote the best episodes while Berrow wrote one of the shittiest episode.

>>29271211
>You have to be really in love with Berrow to defend this episode, autistfag.
I never read any of her books or heard of her before that episode.

>It was the 28 pranks Later kind of bad.
shit taste.

>>29268488
it was because of the 65 ep cartoon trope
many contracts will only be for 3 seasons
it's just long enough to complete a story arc and enough eps for reruns

most cartoons don't make it past the first contract
even if they get renewed, there's usually a gap between thee release of seasons
as in: a full year taken off to bring everyone back and to produce the next season

so IF the show hadn't been so successful and the fandom hadn't been created overnight, it would have been:
S3 airing in 2013 and S4 airing in 2015

almost all fandoms appear after a show has ended
hell, Startrek didn't become popular until years after it was in reruns (which is why the original is only 3 seasons) and didn't pick up again until the conventions started which ALSO got the makers of ST to make movies
it was even Startrek (fans) that started the conventions that we know of today

so this whole ponycons out of nowhere is nothing new
not to mention that even back then Trekkies (I don't think they had a name back then) would dress up as their favorite races and characters from the show
I'm also sure that there was plenty of sex being done in the costumes behind closed doors, much like fursuiters and cosplayers still do today

it almost sounds as though history is repeating itself
the only difference this time is the ability to communicate with thousands+ of people all at once on the internet, so the fandom grew much sooner and faster than normal

other fandoms are built up on the love people have for the show and are quiet about the the degenerates within their fandom
whereas ours was born here on 4chan, a place that celebrates the degeneracy people have, so they were actually louder than the ones who genuinely love the show
not to mention the whole "respect my self named gender and otherkin" shit was, and is, happening so they thought that it should be outspoken on the same level as those people, and that backfired in the face of the fandom.

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>>29271804
Didn't read, here is some no hooves lewd for your troubles.

>>29271804
or theres the fact that it's you know, my little pony

nothing else really needed to backfire

Call me when they confirm a Celestia episode. That's the only thing I might muster some hype for.

>>29272451
>they confirm a Celestia episode.
>it's written by Dave Rapp.
>Celestia is completely stupid during the whole episode, see forgets her sister's name, she locks herself in a closet trying to find the bathroom and she even steps on a rake. Twice, because slapstick is hilarious now.
This is the future you chose. Enjoy.

>>29272385
if ponies and porn hadn't been shoved everywhere, the fandom would be a few threads on /co/

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>>29267250
>>29267539
From a character perspective, it's honestly one of the best Pinkie episodes.

It's tells you nearly everything you need to know about her. She helps around the town, she's eager to share in other's joy, she goes through almost every emotion and even has some snark (don't be fooled, Pinkie can be an incredible troll at times).

If I had to show people who Pinkie was in a single episode, it'd either be this one, or the Smile Smile Smile one.

>>29272499
Dubs confirm, but I'll take it. Any semblance of character over exposition machine is better than the current state. Plus she's literally the only princess without a feature episode.

>>29272578
Only Pinkie fags can have such a shit taste.

Aslmost as bad as Dashfags defending Newbie dash.

>>29265837
>I really hope she gets to have simple secondary roles, then. I just want to see her, and hear her voice, and know she's still her normal self. She doesn't need to be the one the conflict is focused on.
As a Dashfag, I pray for this. Something like this would be absolutely great for me. I loved Rainbow in The Saddle Row Review, Buckball Season and Top Bolt. I'd rather have more episodes like those instead of monstrous atrocities in which she was the focus of the conflict like Newbie Dash or MMDW2. It's heartbreaking to see your waifu getting a terrible episode after another.

>>29272499

>Celestia is completely stupid during the whole episode

So... canon celestia turn into IDW celestia?

>>29273178
Well, the canon show now has shitty IDW-tier Mary Sue OCs so we've already crossed that bridge.

>>29265717
Ishi is a man?
Though Ishi was a girls name

>>29273274
his parents probably wanted a daughter

>>29265278

>>29271228
>Confalone wrote the best episodes

He's talking about the yak episode right?