is she retarded?

>>29264131
She runs a farm, so most likely not.

>>29264134
This.

Maybe a few Negros to help.

>>29264131
Not when it comes to farming.
For everything else, yes.

>>29264145
prove it.

>>29264158
Applejacks day off.

>>29264170
Didn't that episode show that farming was where she was being retarded by not adapting to a simpler routine? At the spa she was the only one who thought of fixing the pipe, and then had the know-how to do it.

>>29264170
I like that episode.

>>29264134
She runs a farm, so most likely yes

ftfy

>>29264131
Not Applejack, but the staffs who gave nonsensical characteristics to her are
That was just straight up stupid

>>29264131
Yes

>>29264170
Appleday Jacks Off

>>29264131
Well she built a watering system for plants.
>probably smarter then you OP

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She is confirmed to have retard strength.

>>29264202
Do you know how fucking much goes into running a farm? Not just working on one, but running one?

>>29264434
>retarded farmer
ok

>>29264170
The one where she helped to fix a sauna problem nobody else could?

>>29264131
AJ is what her current writer is.

Retarded applejack means a retarded writer.

>>29264131
For gender studies students, she is. For normal people, she's the least retarded.

>>29264445
I think you're porch light burned out, better can an electrician.

I dunno about AJ, but I know you are OP.

>>29264131
Typical mud pony

>>29264131
bitch she might be

>>29264131
Maybe some equestrian pumps have to start with low pressure and build up to prime or startup a pump and she replaced it with a better one long ago.

>>29264131

Those pipes seem way too big for the job, you'd be losing way too much pressure and water.

>>29264190
Me 2

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What was the point of this?

>>29266404

Water pipe valves to close/open the water irrigation system. Could be useful if you plan on planting something specific that might need different water amounts to the rest, or even when you plan on not planting anything at all in that area, so you can save up on pressure & water.

>>29264131
Do I need to remind you that it's a kids show? The point was to show, that even if you "know" how to do something, doesn't mean it's the best and fastest way to do it, and you should learn from others.

so no, she is not retarded, she's just used to doing something, as all of us are...

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>>29265576
>you're

Care to try again?

>>29266306
They're insulated so they don't freeze in the winter. The water travels through a smaller pipe inside the larger one

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>>29267362

Really? Metal pipes for insulation? Cause metals are very good insulators, right?

>>29267453
metal -> insulator -> metal
the space between is filled with insulating material like

>>29267362
>>29267453
Here's an idea: The animators simply have never done farm work and just cribbed the first "irrigation" image they got off of Google.

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>>29267453
There's insulation around the smaller pipe

>>29267453
Are you retarded?
It is a very common practice. You can stuff old rags or foam in the space between the pipes. And even if not, the air itself is a very good insulator - go see how a thermos is built

>>29267453
You have just disgraced the pony you posted with.

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>>29267502
>>29267500
>>29267496
>>29267467

Might as well use plastic or PVC instead of a metal, which is just going to reduce the effectiveness of the insulating layer that goes inside, not to mention the fact that I'll rust.

It's inefficient as fuck, the only reason one would use metal pipes would be if you needed it to stay in the air, not on the ground.

>>29267523

Quiet, imbecile.

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>>29267500

But that's copper, which doesn't rust. It doesn't make any sense to use what pretty much looks like Iron when you're going to be dealing with water. (Because it rusts)

>>29267567
Why would you call me wrong for pointing out that the animators are stupid hacks, anon?

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>>29267611

Wrongly added your post in my reply.

>>29264131
It's S6. Everyone's retarded now.

>>29267624
Yeah pretty much this. Welcome to My Little Mind: Friendship is Moronic

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>>29267567
PVC/Plastic doesn't exist in equestria. There's no oil

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>>29264131
I'm under the impression that the farm at one point didn't have very good water pressure. This meant opening each single one would allow the water to get there. Then, as the pressure improved, she simply kept the prior ones open to prevent too much pressure to the farthest ones.

Regardless, she should had taken a step back and re-evaluated things to then realize that opening all of them at once would be the most efficient and effective way.

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>>29267641

>Skeletons appear in the show
>If Skeletons appear that means
>Death is a concept
>If death is a concept, so is decomposition
>if decomposition occurs in Equestria
>Crude oil exists
>If crude oil exists, as does decomposition then natural gases also exist and thus the two ways by which PVC is normally made are available options

Logic proves you wrong.

>>29267641
I could respond with that image I have of Scootaloo working on the float, but it's less effort to just call you a retard.

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>>29267689
Crude oil may exist but it clearly hasn't been discovered or at least extracted on a larger scale, which means plastic stuff is not easy to come by

>>29267689
Two problems here.
1.That formatting is just dreadful
2.Holy shit that formatting is really fucking dreadful

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Well, sir. As I mentioned in my early post, there's two common methods of making PVC and one of them does not directly require crude oil, you'll only need to form ethylene from cracking natural gas liquids, including petroleum gas liquid derived from ethane & propane.

So yeah, no need for large scale extractions of crude oil.

Better run back to Sethisto, now.

>>29267731

Logic>Aesthetic appeal of the chosen medium by which said logic is expressed

>>29264131
No, but sometimes the writers are.

>>29266600
>Do I need to remind you that it's a kids show?
Hello Jim.

>>29267778
>Logic>Aesthetic
No it isn't. You are a sperg; subhuman.

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>>29266600
Everyone say hello to Jim.

>>29266600

Hello Jim, you suck.

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>>29267856

>Subhuman

I am a pony, you fucking retard.

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>>29267918
THE ROLEPLAY HAS GONE TOO FAR. ABORT ABORT ABORT

>>29267918
ponies are lower than humans

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>>29267942

Aight, aight, aight. Calm down, I'll stop. Jesus christ.

>>29267856
>I don't know what basic mathematical symbols mean
He was saying logic trumps aesthetic, not that logic is aesthetic, you fucking mong.

>>29267977
I know.

It's just that non-autists know that aesthetic trumps logic.

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>>29267955

Lower, under what parameters of judgement?

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>>29267959
No don't go

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>>29267977
>mong
I never thought I'd live to see the day that that word was posted outside of /brit/

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>>29267983

>>29268017
Are you, perhaps, a fucking newfaggot?

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>>29267993

Don't worry, sillypants. I'll be around.

>>29264131
>All of this missing the point
Yes, she is retarded. Or the writers are. Or both.

Why? Because she payed top-dollar (or bit, or whatever) to install a pipe watering system in her fields when 1/3 of the population is capable of making it rain on demand for exactly as long as is needed. There is literally no good reason for this scene to have occurred, except that the writers apparently forgot Pegasi exist.

>>29268037
depends on how you classify a newfag

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>>29268070
You forgot the fact that the pipes also only cover a miniscule part of the field.
>>29268051
~

>>29268070
And that, kiddies, is why you should always consider the details of your setting when you write something.

>>29264134
She grew in a farm, so -most likely- yes.
>>29264434
Depends on the farm, really. Applejacks farm isn't really that advanced.

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>>29267567
On that scale: PVC/Plastic is times more expensive than metal and the all benefits for this specific scenario are minimal.
>it'll rust
I thought in the usa kids had more comprehensive science classes in elementary school, advanced enough at least to cover the existence of brass; you know, the thing pipes are usually made of so they don't rust.
>is just going to reduce the effectiveness of the insulating layer
You're retarded. Adding anything below or on top of an insulator is not going to change the insulating properties of said insulator.
Stop posting anytime.

>>29264131

No, She's not Rainbow Dash.

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>>29268214

>PVC/Plastic is times more expensive than metal and the all benefits for this specific scenario are minimal

Not true, PVC is not many more expensive than metal, specially not steel which is what the pipe in OP's image looks like. Also, the specific benefit in not minimal either, if we are talking about price, weight, durability and insulation efficiency (specially consider I was responding to someone who thought metal pipes would be a good way to insulate the water against freezing temperatures) PVC wins in every category, if we factor in rust. There's a reason most irrigation systems use plastic, buddy.

>>I thought in the usa kids had more comprehensive science classes in elementary school, advanced enough at least to cover the existence of brass; you know, the thing pipes are usually made of so they don't rust.

You must be blind if you think that looks like brass.

>>You're retarded. Adding anything below or on top of an insulator is not going to change the insulating properties of said insulator.

No, but it'll certainly change the temperate the insulating layer will meet. A PVC pipe with an insulated layer will insulate better than a Steel pipe with an insulating layer inside of it. Logic 101.


Anything else?

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>>29268471
>PVC is not many more expensive than meta
Please, learn to talk
> specially not steel which is what the pipe in OP's image looks like.
>to my untrained eye it looks like steel, therefore it is steel.
Please, learn to think
>Price
PVC is more expensive than most metals, if you buy a large quantity of pvc you are spending a lot more money than if you bough a large quantity of metal, learn to read.
>Durability
You have a pipeline that is going to sit on the ground carrying water, lets say the material they are using lasts 120 years and pvc lasts 150, you're going to most likely scrap it down for any other reason (valves breaking, soil changing, farm moving away, etc.) after 80 years anyway so there's no point.
> insulation efficiency
>if we factor in rust
>consider I was responding to someone who thought metal pipes would be a good way to insulate the water
Null point, we already addressed that part, if you are using a proper insulator between the pipes it doesn't matter what the pipes are made off; there's also thousands of ways to prevent steel from rusting; paint, galvanization, special treatments, electric current, etc.
>Weight
You're not going to be carrying them around anywhere, again, learn to read.
>You must be blind if you think that looks like brass.
>What is paint?
For all we know it could indeed be plastic modeled to look like metal.
>A PVC pipe with an insulated layer will insulate better than a Steel pipe with an insulating layer inside of it. Logic 101.
>moving goalpost
If you hold a cable carrying a strong electric current, and you use rubber gloves, does it really matter if you put 2 pairs of rubber gloves on top? does it really make a difference if you put a towel around the cable below your hands? or even, a steel plate?
No, it doesn't, you're already protected as much as you need, adding more resistors will increase your protection but you're only wasting money on materials.

>>29268471
>There's a reason most irrigation systems use plastic, buddy.
Is it, we were talking about heat insulation, most irrigation systems have none, plastic is, however, easier to clean, and that one of the reasons why DEVELOPED first world farms use plastics

>>29267689
>>if decomposition occurs in Equestria
>>Crude oil exists

Only if it has existed for millions of years you retard

>>29267567
>>29268214
>>29268471
>>29268591
Oh my God just kiss already

>>29267500
I always knew /mlp/ was gay

>>29264131
As an engineer, this picture triggers me.
>not using a rotary sprinkler
>why are the multiple valves?
>putting pipes in the furrows means that each pipe can cover two rows.
>why are the pipes only a foot long?
>what the hell is that pipe going off into the distance for?
>why is the well in between two rows in the middle of the field
>why is an apple farmer growing lettuce?
>is that even lettuce?
>still using lead pipe
>that fence is fucked
>why is there a section of fence that isn't whitewashed like the rest of them?

However, I do approve of her use of gravity to water the other side of the field.

>>29267362
I think equestrian pipes have some insulating enchantment of some sort.
the spa pipes weren't insulated either and touching a steam pipe would cause a second degree burn. they ran all over the spa and no one worried about bumping into one.
I just think that ponies are not good at pluming because the animators are animators and not plummers.

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There were a lot of pipes left over from the war and she was just putting them to good use.

>>29267641
they could though eventually.
PVC is Polyvinyl Chloride, a polymer formed with vinyl.
they have vinyl and we have seen it in the form of records

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>>29268591

1- Plastic is still cheaper than Metal
2- You need a lot less plastic to make things compared to Metal
3- Metal pipes are known to burst due to freezing temperatures, this is not true for plastic pipes
4- Plastic weight less than metal, which matters if there's a necessity to replace pieces or transport it somewhere else. It also reduces the costs of transportation.
5- Metals corrode, plastic does not
6- Plastic pipes insulating properties is better for both transporting cold water and hot water, as there is less loss/gain of temperature which adds a great level of control that can be useful depending on the type of plant is being watered, as their needs might vary.


>>to my untrained eye it looks like brass, therefore it is brass, although it clearly looks like iron/steel
>>Wasting money fucking painting pipes for the lolz which adds unnecessary additional costs
>>It is far more logical to use a metal pipe with an insulating layer inside it cost wise than a mere plastic tube which has no need for it, since it has superior insulating capabilities to begin with and does not need to be treated to about getting oxidized.


Wow, let me shit all over your chessboard now.
>>29268608
Plastic is a great heat insulator.

>>29268622

We have no reason to believe Equestria hasn't existed for millions of years, we are presented with the equivalent of IRL animals in the show which by logic must have been evolved the same way to life on Earth. What's your point, truly?

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>>29268756
>1- Plastic is still cheaper than Metal
We don't know this. There's an abundance of natural metals and gemstones throughout the land, but no clear indication of an oil economy of any kind. Plastic could be quite costly in Equestria simply because it's rare

>>29268756
>3- Metal pipes are known to burst due to freezing temperatures, this is not true for plastic pipes
False

>>29268836

>>3- Metal pipes are known to burst due to freezing temperatures, this is a VERY RARE occurrence for plastic pipes, specially when there's running water.


Corrected.

>>29265545
can someone ponify this?

She ca instantly grow trees and flowers, why does it matter if she is retarded or not? even a fucking retard has an autistic ability he is good at.

>>29264131
Fuck, now I'm mad just because you reminded me of this episode.

>>29268862
I second this

>>29268853
PVC is often used in drainage, and drainage pipes don't constantly hold water.
the (hopefully) copper water pipes in your walls constantly hold water therefore they can freeze and will freeze more often.
That is why plastic pipe freeze damage may be so rare.
Also running water doesn't freeze as easy, regardless of what pipe it is in.

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>>29268815

Well, as that other Anon smartly pointed out, we've seen Vinyl records being played by DJ Pon3 in the show before. Which means both crude out, cracking and other polymer technologies have been develop and are in use in Equestria, which indicates some sort of oil based economy, although we do not know to what extend.

One can easily assume that if making Polyvinyl resin by processing Ethylene and chlorine is cost effective enough to have a market of vinyl records, then PVC pipes are truly not far off.

>>29268883

It doesn't change the fact that an irrigation system located in a geographical location where we know temperatures drop to freezing points that is made out of plastic is simply superior to one made out of metal, even if the later has an insulating layer inside. Consider that an irrigation system will hold some water at some point.

Also, irrigation systems have different goals than draining systems. Good temperature control of the water you're plants are receiving is a great thing. Guess which material will maintain the heat better?

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>>29268891
That would make sense I suppose. The fact that Saddle Arabians exist support this theory as well.

This thread derailed quickly. You guys need to pipe down

>>29268944

Yes, it truly might be time to water it down.

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>>29268930

Huh, I actually hadn't considered Saddle Arabia. You're right.

>>29264131
About as retarded as most of the anons in this thread.
So absolutely

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>>29267635
>My Little Mind

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>>29268991

C'mon Anon, we know you're pretty fat but you only count as one individual.

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>>29268688
Yay, I'm not alone
The spa is much worse

>>29268688
>>29269026

All artists should run a industrial design course. It can only help.

>>29269047
Idk if you meant this ironically, but it's true.

>>29269047
nah, seeing this stuff is a reality check
I need to remember the "intended audience" and not to raise my expectations too high, or I'll get disappointed and the episodes will lose enjoy ability.

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>>29269026
>all of my reeeeeeee

>>29269058

No, I mean it. As someone who has drawing for a hobby, I plan on touching the subject.

>>29269064
Yeah, I can't disagree.

>>29268891
Possibly but it doesn't seem like Equestria has wide spread industrialization to allow for plastic processing to the point of being cheaper than metal. Just because they can make it does not mean there is a large enough manufacturing and production base to be competitive. We see widespread use of metals but not plastics. We see vinyl records but those existed in America long before we had pvc replacing metal piping.

Not saying you are wrong but you haven't really presented any evidence that plastic has any kind of economy of scale to be a viable alternative to metal use.

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>>29264131
The big problem is that AJ at face value is "boring".

She is established, level headed, family and business focused, skilled, and rarely prone to outlandish reactive behavior.

Making episodes that are AJ focused is difficult for the current writing staff because she doesn't encounter the same kind of character flaws that set up the other girls for problem situations beyond being stubborn.

So they arbitrarily make her pants-on-head retard for an episode to create a "problem" to be resolved and then never touch on this supposed "flaw" ever again so she goes back to being the boring level support character.

We had to deal with the retarded Pinky phase too because the writers had no clue what they wanted to do with her.

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>>29265545
>>29268862
>>29268875
As always, I did what I could, anons. I did what I could.

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>>29269595
Appul/10

>>29269620
favourite artist

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>>29269595

>>29269304
this "applejack is boring" meme only shows how many underage autists inhabit this board. these people probably see rainbow dash and pinkie pie as "exciting" characters when in real life they would get annoyed and bored of them within 5 minutes.
one is an arrogant childish tryhard cunt who sounds like a 13 year old boy and will literally only talk about herself and her amazing "feats" such as flying fast, woo! the other will just jump around and act like a hyperactive retard and talk very loudly with an extremely high pitched voice.

those are the two insufferable characters probably half of /mlp/ considers not boring

>>29269863
I want to bounce up and down carelessly and act like a hyperactive retard with pinkie and praise rd for being fast.
It's tiresome feeling serious and proper all the time.

>>29269863
her work and her life is boring, tedious and repetitive.

honestly id probably try my best to spend my days around twilight moreso than any other pones.

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>>29269863
>Applejack isn't boring
>Now let me demonstrate this by giving you an extremely exaggerated caricature of two other characters from the show so I don't have to form an actual argument
You are an absolute fucking retard.

>>29269863
But... I think that's exactly the point. Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie are clearly flawed characters with aspects of their personalities that make it easy to set up a conflict.

AJ on the other hand is relatively levelheaded and easier to get along with most of the time. That's exactly why they find it difficult to write problems around her.

>>29264170
You mean the one where she showed skill as a mechanic

>>29264131
Nah your thinking of rainbow "cant learn unless shes flying" dash

>>29269952
This was the point I was trying to make here >>29269304
AJ is my favorite character precisely because she's the most practical and functional one out of the group save for the odd "Applejack is inexplicably dumb for no reason" episode. (That and being a buff, hardworking green eyed farm girl who is probably into rope play.)

It just makes her difficult to write about with the show's style of problems because she is more grounded compared to some other characters and the writers just take the easy way out.

I'd rather take the "boring" character and have her play a support role than play her OOC just to have a AJ centric episode.

>>29268815
This
Aluminum was worth more than gold at one point.

>>29268891
>auctualy calling her djpone3

>>29270496
>not even watching the show

>>29267731
That formatting was fucking fine for the information presented

>>29266578
Don't be a dingus, I mean why is she using magic to do that?

How is that supposed to help show an Earth pony a more efficient way of doing something when it's something only SHE can do?

>>29269026
Those FUCKING pipes. I know jack shit about plumbing and pipework and even I can tell something is seriously wrong with them. I'm pretty sure that mess at the top is bullshit at least, right?

>>29270550

See, I didn't realize you were asking that question from that premise. I guess the real question here is this: ''Is Twilight Sparkle retarded?''

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>>29270496

>https://youtu.be/aSO89LJjKcM?t=48

>>29264131
Kinda

>>29264138
>Maybe a few Zegros to help
FTFY

>>29264131
Calling the main body of MURICA """retarded"", nonwithstanding their standing in the world egarding success, and subsequentially calling them miso-something and something-phobic led to us having a more financially successful version of them in one of the most powerful positions in the political world.

>>29267689
Crude oil and natural gas exist, but the ponies thus far have no need to utilize them due to the presence of magic altering their society's technological progression.

>>29273586

As it has already been mentioned earlier on the thread, we've been shown Vinyl records. So there's definitely some need for crude oil to be use, and polymer techniques such as cracking.

>>29268608
Meh, actually metal would get corroded by chemicals in liquid fertilizers or pesticides.

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>>29264131
no she is cute

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>>29274121

>Applejack
>Using synthetic fertilizers and pesticides
>Not going full bio with manure she can shit herself, mixing with barn animals shit to awesome nutrients

>>29274262
>curved eyelashes

Fuck off

>>29264131

>>29264181
>>by not adapting to a simpler routine?
That's called being stubborn. Being retarded is something else entirely.

>>29275105
and it's very much canon as to how STUBBORN AJ can be

>>29274283
I don't think the feces of everyone in Ponyville combined would be enough to fertilize her farm.

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>>29275383

>Implying the farm hasn't been expanded gradually as the Apple family shitted all over the place, slowly fertilizing the entire farm with their manure to it's current size.

It's a family run business, a shitty situation. You dig?

>>29264131
The technology in this episode was all over the place. They had washing machines and pressurized water but there is a well in the center of town?

>>29275383
That is why once a week canterlot delivers their shit to applejack business.

>>29277553
Makes sense, seeing as she's a shit pone.