Is Spike a bad influence on young boys who might be watching

>>29133510
Eh it was always made clear the way he acted around rarity was a bad thing it was a cautionary tale if anything and he is heroic now.
>Solves problems by crying
Not even remotly true unless your trying to say men should never cry in which case neck yourseld
>Episode about toxic masculinity meme
The fuck episode do you think that is.

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>>29133510
No, sexy ponies are a much worse influence on young, developing, boys.

>>29133553
Although it may be a little concerning the way he just accepts all the slapstick he gets

Did you watch S6 at all? Tumblr got so fucking upset that Spike was actually a featured character.

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>>29133553
>The fuck episode do you think that is.
the running away to become a dragon episode
>"Why would you want to be like a dragon spike? so mean and barbaric"
>"Let me tell about being a pony"
the relation is pretty clear but you can pretend it doesn't exist if you want

>Not even remotly true unless your trying to say men should never cry in which case neck yourseld
it's only ok for men to cry if they lose a family member or friend

>>29133618
Watch Gauntlet of Fire.

>>29133510
>has the heads of two nations screaming his name at least once a week
>an entire city-state dreams of sucking his dragon cock
>has saved the world multiple times
>is a great friend and very dependable
What are you talking about? Spike is awesome

>>29133618
>Dragon Quest was about toxic masculinity
That's a stretch if I ever saw one. It was about not being a massive cockface to your friends and forcing them to do shit they don't want to, and not murdering baby animals. Your friends are the ones who like you for who you are and don't make you do everything their way.

>>29133510
He embodies the elements better than the mane 6
>>29133618
>it's only ok for men to cry if they lose a family member or friend
This is why suicide rates for men are so much higher for women. We aren't allowed to show emotion.
Neck yourself.

>>29133510
>young boys
>watching MLP

lol no, males only start liking the show when they start playing with their dicks

>>29133662
He's not entirely wrong. The dragons in that episode were a fairly blatant allusion to the destructive aspects of man's nature, more specifically the impulses that children tend to experience. Garble and co were the kids who like to go around setting ants on fire with a magnifying glass, kick puppies, all that shit. The point of the episode was that you don't have to be a destructive cunt to be a man or, in Spike's case, a dragon.

Either way, episode was terrible and I'll never forgive what it did to dragons.

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>>29133663
Don't bother, the reactionary culture of 4chan has convinced them that in spite of hating "Chads," all non-Chads should neck themselves.

>>29133703
Gauntlet of Fire was what it should have been from the start.

>>29133799
Gauntlet of Fire was terrible, too. Owl's Well had the last good dragon in it that this show has seen.

>>29133850
So you just want them to be all solitary borderline feral creatures?

>>29133869
I want them to be powerful and majestic, like the old red in Dragonshy or the green in Owl's Well, not some stumpy stubby Dreamworks-esque piece of shit like they have been in every dragon episode afterwards.

>>29133885
What about Torch?

>>29133663
>This is why suicide rates for men are so much higher for women. We aren't allowed to show emotion.
What you say is true, but there's a reason having weak men is dangerous for society

>>29133928
Dreamworks-esque piece of shit. Why am I repeating myself?

>>29133582
Source?
I thought Tumblrities liked Spike.

>>29133885
What about Spyro?

>>29133947
>having weak men is dangerous for society

There are many different kinds of strength, Anon, and none of them have a goddamn thing to do with whether the person possessing that particular strength is male or female.

>>29133947

>Having weak men is dangerous for society

You're one of those people who complain about the pussification of society, aren't you?

>>29134055
Not him, but the pussification and PCing of society does suck.
And not in the good way where everyone throws out their consoles.

>>29134003
Didn't Spyro get canon cucked?

>>29134120

What constitutes "pussification"? Strength with no self-control is what most "strong" people actually practice, and they're complete dickheads for doing so.

>>29134053
>>29134055
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>>29134160
We need different kinds of strength. Not everyone fits the same mold and that's okay.

>>29133993
They just got really upset that Thorax was not female and called Spike an "ally," which they hate.

>>29134179
>They just got really upset that Thorax was not female

But who will have all of the babby cheeselegs now?

>>29134196
All they wanted was a feminist power fantasy, but completely missed the trope that was ignored with Ember. They didn't even give Ember any attention.

>>29134179
>They just got really upset that Thorax was not female and called Spike an "ally," which they hate
What? Why would they get upset?
Do they not know how hives work?

>>29134160
No, no. I'm talking about shit like oh we gotta ban Looney Tunes episode cause there's a gun or Daffy get blown up too hard.
(I understand the ha ha laugh at the chingchong ones)

Or shit like adult jokes and more off color jokes being stripped from most entertainments that isn't R.
Perfect example are xmas movies, Miracle on 34th St. Booze jokes out the ass and it's considered a timeless classic and wholesome. Elf even had some jokes that would go over kids heads. Now most things made for kids just kind of sucks.
>inb4 where_do_you_think_we_are.png

Not talking about bullying kids or just fucking with people if they bump into you in a club. Though, fighting your own battles is something worthwhile, feels good to punch a bully or someone fucking with your friends.

>>29134219
That's assault, and if one adult punches another, they get sued. Don't teach kids shit that will get them sued when they grow up.

>>29134205
Look, they were upset that Ember wasn't Mina and wanted Thorax to be like that for them.

>>29134235
You're exactly proving the problem.
Sue him! Sue him!

>>29134246
If someone hits you, you should sue them. This is what our societies developed as a way to respond to people that use violence like that.

>>29134235
jesus i bet youd press charges for slipping on some ice outside little mom and pops toy store
fucking jew

>>29134250
If you're asking for it and I mean really asking for it, you should get punched.

>>29133510

Put it like this, if I had a young son, I wouldn't be letting him watch MLP.

Time to fish out old sets of ducktales.

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>>29134252
You shouldn't really be saying that when the dude up the block benches 4 more plates than you do.

>>29134264
I'd let him watch it. I remember my parents making fun of me for watching Pokémon past like 11, sure it's faggy, but taping it and hiding it, watching it at night like I was hiding porn wasn't fun. I'd never want my kid to feel like that.
I'd just make sure I got him to understand if you can't go being a fag and talking about mlp to ya friends and wearing shirts you're going to get made fun of. Best to be honest.
Plus man him up in other ways.

>>29134264

>Ducktales

Great, now that theme is stuck in my head.

>>29134277
Hey, I have been punched for mouthing off like a dick. I deserved it. Haven't done it since and I'm better off for it.

>>29134291
Doesn't mean other people aren't dicks. You can still get beaten down for doing nothing.

>>29134299
True, but that's not what I'm talking about. If you're being a dick you should get punched, I didn't say beaten, there's never really a reason for that.

>>29134318
Kinda difficult to quantify that. You can be quite seriously hurt from a punch, you know.

>>29134320
Maybe if you're Bruce Lee.
The avg person can take a punch to the gut, chest, even face without anything other than some pain for a little bit.

>>29134252
Well yes, that's legally what you should do. I mean, it's their responsibility to keep the sidewalk free of ice and they were negligent.

Don't let feels come before reality of the law.

>>29134338
Depends

http://www.mygc.com.au/man-knocked-unconscious-savage-one-punch-attack-outside-bar/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4063794/Savage-moment-drunken-thug-knocks-innocent-passerby-ONE-PUNCH-shocking-unprovoked-attack.html
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen/1121878/man-left-blind-in-one-eye-after-mechanical-engineer-attacks-with-one-punch/
http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2014/12/23/20803217/

Just go look up "one punch" on Google and click "News". If any One-Punch Man shows up, just filter it out

>>29134338
Real life isn't an action movie. Humans are incredibly resilient, but we're also remarkably fragile at the same time. It does not take a lot of effort to kill somebody.

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>>29134053
>>29134055
>>29134160
>>29134235
>>29134250
>>29134366
spotted the cuck

>>29134374
>back of the head
>two punch, one to the side of the head
>side of the head
>link didnt work

>>29134382
>kill someone, we're not even in that ball park
see the pattern? there are dangerous spots on the human body, if you punch someones throat or in another dangerous place like the balls, the back of the head, or right over the heart you can really hurt someone. generally youd have to be above average strength to do so, but the point is fair enough.

like i said, a jab to nonvital places isnt going to really hurt you. a punch to the gut cause your mouthing off might knock the wind out of you, but youll be fine

>>29134366
You just a dick man. At the most ask them to pay for the hospital bills and call it even.

>be this jewanon
>over grandmas for lighting candle night
>slip on her steps cause its snowy out
>oyy vey!
>grandma loses house for having to pay for hospital bill but also pain and suffering

>>29134414
which link?

Also, how does that make my argument less valid? If you allow violence without legal repercussions, serious injuries are likely to increase.

>like i said, a jab to nonvital places isnt going to really hurt you. a punch to the gut cause your mouthing off might knock the wind out of you, but youll be fine
Moving the goalposts here, I see. Now, how exactly do we determine this? Is there to be written new legal code to specify what areas of the body may be punched in a dispute? And what qualifies a proper dispute?

>>29134427
It's not the same if it were a business, Anon. Stop letting your "feels before reals" view of the world interrupt how things work.

>>29134430
>which link?
the usatoday, just tried again and it worked, strange
>kid not charged because no direct evidence of the punch being what killed him

>moving goalposts
im not moving anything. youre 4 examples were 3 of punches to the back of the head, which is very dangerous and obviously done with little to no defense, being from behind.
which is not even close to what i originally said

no the law is fine as it it, i wouldnt change it, you have to protect people the need to be protected. there are a lot of dicks out there that think that they can do anything you they like.

people should own up, if you got in a fight that was your fault, and someone broke your nose, its your fault, dont sue the guy. get it fixed and learn from it.

look at these two;
>>29134427
>>29134453
its not about changing the law, its about not being a shitty person

>>29134474
The business that was negligent in protecting its customers is the shitty person/people here, not the victim of the fall.

>>29134474
>youre 4 examples were 3 of punches to the back of the head, which is very dangerous and obviously done with little to no defense, being from behind.
You said someone deserves a punch for being a dick. You moved the goalposts when you said it shouldn't be placed in a potentially harmful area.

>no the law is fine as it it, i wouldnt change it, you have to protect people the need to be protected. there are a lot of dicks out there that think that they can do anything you they like.
AH, so I can sue you, jail you for assault, and place you in jail/debt for decades? Because according to the law as it is, it's fucking illegal to punch people for being dicks.

>people should own up, if you got in a fight that was your fault, and someone broke your nose, its your fault, dont sue the guy. get it fixed and learn from it.
Ah, and I'm sure others will show you the same courtesy.

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>>>29134453
>its not about changing the law, its about not being a shitty person
You are a shitty person for punching someone over little shit like insulting you or some shit. You're the real pussy here. Literally cannot handle the bantz.

>>29134453
>>29134481
>"feels before reals"
If a family member caused me to get hurt, at most I'd ask them to help with hospital bills.
Same with a little store.

>>29134481
>negligent in protecting its customers
True, I'm not disagreeing with that. What I'm saying is that if your suit is going to destroy these people's lives maybe think about what you're doing.
Sure, getting them to help with medical bills is understandable, but loss pay and pain and suffering could destroy them. And you could find yourself and them a alternative.

Spike is one of the best male characters in cartoons, and he FINALLY broke the trend of "shitty male character in a girl's show."

>>29134503
only a nut would try and kill someone for being a dick. its implied that youre not aiming to break the guys windpipe

>AH, so I can sue you, jail you for assault, and place you in jail/debt for decades? Because according to the law as it is, it's fucking illegal to punch people for being dicks.
not really sure what youre saying here

>>29134503
>Ah, and I'm sure others will show you the same courtesy.
i said should, most people, especially dicks wont ever show that courtesy. but i have a feeling you know that, so dont really get the point of the sarcasm

>>29134503
>shitty person for punching someone over little shit
ive been in that situation, if someone is harassing my friend, ill help him out to make it stop. you dont know what youre talking about, ive been in a situation where this kid just tormented my friend for god knows how long, eventually after stealing his had and playing keep away, just started crying, so i went over and punched the fucker. never messed with my friend again, sure i got in trouble, but worth it.

you really need to grow up

>>29134544
>its implied that youre not aiming to break the guys windpipe
You never implied that.

>not really sure what youre saying here
It is illegal to punch people for being dicks. Your statement:
>no the law is fine as it it, i wouldnt change it, you have to protect people the need to be protected. there are a lot of dicks out there that think that they can do anything you they like.
Makes no sense, because according to the law (which you claim to support), you cannot punch those "dicks out there that think that they can do anything". That's called assault. It's illegal.

>i said should, most people, especially dicks wont ever show that courtesy. but i have a feeling you know that, so dont really get the point of the sarcasm
The point is that the law you claim to support allows those dicks to sue you for all you are worth and charge you for assault and battery, and get you jailed, potentially, for years.

>ive been in that situation, if someone is harassing my friend, ill help him out to make it stop. you dont know what youre talking about, ive been in a situation where this kid just tormented my friend for god knows how long, eventually after stealing his had and playing keep away, just started crying, so i went over and punched the fucker. never messed with my friend again, sure i got in trouble, but worth it.
That's not a crime. That's defense of others. That's perfectly alright and there is a vast amount of legal precedence allowing for it. We're talking abut punching people for "being dicks".

>>29133510
Spike was decent last season. He has grown a spine.

>>29134611
>You never implied that.
its just implied, i didnt have to...b8?

>Makes no sense
what makes no sense? it is illegal to assault people, unless you can prove its self defense, i know that. i support the law, it needs to be there for the obvious reasons and because justifying "he deserved it" isnt a legal case.

but jabbing a person in the shoulder or gut cause they are being a dick would never be charged as assault, there would be no hospital bills, no pain and suffering, no lost wages, no lawyer would waste their time on it. so whys the law matter here in the first place?
breaking a guys wind pipe or punching the back of his head when hes not looking could kill or seriously fuck him up, you have to be a crazy person to do that over pretty much anything

>The point is that the law you claim to support allows those dicks to sue you for all you are worth and charge you for assault and battery, and get you jailed, potentially, for years.
see above, i think? im still not sure what your point is. i know what i typed

>>29134611
i consider bullying being a dick. lets change it then, someone is heavily insulting a friend or a family member, after trying to get them to knock it off, if they didnt id throw a punch.
and let me clarify, NOT TO REALLY KILL THEM. like in the stomach or shoulder, not the neck or a running sneak attack to the back of the head.
but no one is going to sue me over this. ive been on both sides of this well in the past. it rarely escalates

>>29134673
>its just implied, i didnt have to...b8?
You do have to imply something for it to be implied.

>it is illegal to assault people, unless you can prove its self defense, i know that. i support the law, it needs to be there for the obvious reasons and because justifying "he deserved it" isnt a legal case.
I agree.

>but jabbing a person in the shoulder or gut cause they are being a dick would never be charged as assault
You are contradicting yourself. You are literally justifying this with "he deserved it". Because he was a dick? You're needlessly escalating a situation here. Do you think someone is just going to let you punch them cuz they made an offhand comment? You are the dick in this situation.

>see above, i think? im still not sure what your point is. i know what i typed
It is illegal to punch someone for "being a dick". Period. No argument.

>but no one is going to sue me over this. ive been on both sides of this well in the past. it rarely escalates
You're lucky you know nice people. Not everyone is that way though dude, and the law is perfectly clear: suing someone for punching you is okay.

>i consider bullying being a dick. lets change it then, someone is heavily insulting a friend or a family member, after trying to get them to knock it off, if they didnt id throw a punch.
Again, this is defense of others. One doesn't have to have harmed someone for you to protect that someone if you believe that the one is likely to cause harm to that person.

If you punch someone in the face after being provoked you shouldn't face legal repercussions. If it's unprovoked then you should.

Wow so complicated

>>29134729
I'm fine with that.

>>29133510
>season 2 and 6 Spike
No.
>every other season
Yes.

>>29133553
The way the writers deal with the whole RarityxSpike thing is terrible.
She doesn't like him romantically but according to one book, she gets jealous if he shows interest in someone else, and that's supposed to be cute apparently, when really it just comes down to "He's my servant, back off." She uses his crush to get him to help her and carry her bags (despite the lazy shit having magic) and at the end of the day, her treatment is "okay" as long as she has a cute nickname for him and a gift or two.
And you know how people would get uncomfortable about the whole thing if the genders were switched.

>>29135137
It really is fucking weird.

>>29135137
The fact that enough in the fandom view Spike as a literal baby should make Rarity having Spike carry those mountain high bag stacks and pinning his scales worst.

>>29135137

That's why I wouldn't want a young son watching the show. Spikes the constant male... and he would relate the most to him by virtue of sex. And yeah, you'd be doing your son the biggest disservice by having him be like spike.

You guys seem to forget, although Faust wasn't a 'crazy' feminist, she's still a woman. And this is their ideal setup. Chase alpha, beta to fallback on.

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>>29135525
>Faust wasn't a 'crazy' feminist

>>29135532

I'm aware, I mean that in relativity to feminist tier crazy, i.e. big red.

>>29135532
She constantly teters on the edge of going full sjw

I think its her family holding her back from going over the edge

>>29135143
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>>29135525
Hell, wasn't the lesson in the Trenderhoof episode "If they don't like you back, don't try so hard and move on"?
Even Spike was a cool guy. He wasn't jealous or bitter toward Trender.
So why can't they do the same for Spike? Let him finally realise that it's not going anywhere, let him move on and not have Rarity get fussy about losing his attention.
It's not as if the plots would change in any way, since the crush isn't even brought up that often.

>>29135137
>And you know how people would get uncomfortable about the whole thing if the genders were switched.
This makes me sad
Why are double standards so common

>>29133510
Carry on Spike... carry on !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3T7-VbfYLU

>>29135665
He has Ember and Thorax and all of the Crystal mares and stallions now. Who cares about Rarity?

>>29133510

How about an episode where Spike becomes a bad boy?

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>>29135812
/thread
Literally thousands of bitches for him to fuck, including the leaders of two countries. Who's laughing now, sluthorse?

>>29135137
The thing is its terrible its writen like that but its made clear its a bad thing so its not going to be a bad infulunce on any boys

It is sad how much outrage there would be with the genders reversed though.

>>29135848
>but its made clear its a bad thing so its not going to be a bad infulunce on any boys
It's not clear enough. You know it's wrong so you project that onto the story, but the message being delivered is "Keep trying and one day you'll get it."

It really fails to show the consequences if all you know is how to behave in that one way (and for most little kids, it's the first and only example they have of a crush)

>>29135848
Not sure tough, Archie comics is pretty much the reversed role there.

>>29133510
Who cares? The show isn't meant for little boys. It's for little girls and adult men.

>>29134179
>they got upset he called Spike an ally
Well fuck, I guess WWI and II were both sexist then. Fucking Allies trying to save the world.

>>29135911
>angry faust noises

>>29133510
Even taking all that at face value, it beats Steven Universe.

>>29136406
Steven Universe is definitely on the "banned shows" list

Spike put the best thing he ever had in his life on the line for a friend. That itself means he is a role model.