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>*ruins everything*
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>>28937766
>*Gets forgiven*
>*Gets rewarded*
>More threads like this are made
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>>28937766
>>28937781
To be serious for a moment, this is exactly why she was shit in season 6. She just got forgiven at every turn. She shouldn't have even needed to make the mistakes to begin with, but the fact that no one seemed to give a shit is an awful setup for a character and fuck the current show staff and directors for continuing it.
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>>28937842
This, also added with the fact that she ignores everyone but Twilight.
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shit thread
shit pony
OP sucks cock
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I want Glimmer dead.
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>>28939339
No. Kek save Glim Glam
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>>28939448
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>>28940666

>>28939149
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>be OP
>be a faggot
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>>28937766
She's such a cute pone.

>>28939448
Kek will give us a sign through my post number that glimglam will be okay.
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>>28940666
Wasted Satan trips.
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>>28937766
>glimmer is added
>show coincidentally has better writing than when she wasn't added
really makes you think...
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>>28937766
I want glimmer dead
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>>28943370
>show coincidentally has better writing than when she wasn't added
Somethin' in this here applesauce smells kinda fishy.
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>>28937766
>*rapes you*
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>>28937766
>Still likes her
bite me
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>>28937766
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>>28943599
lmao my man
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I want Glimmer alive.
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I want Glimmer locked in passionate embrace with me. I want Glimmer to feel loved.
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>>28942245
>singles
Time for a belt beating
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Glimmerlovers should take over this thread now.
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>>28937766
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>>28945343
glimmerlovers couldn't keep their thread alive. It's over, the abusers won
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>>28937842
>shouldn't have even needed to make the mistakes
not a robot
>the fact that no one seemed to give a shit
They give a shit, they just let Twilight deal with it since its her pet project
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>>28946035
>the abusers knew how to keep civilized and ignore trolls
Ftfy
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>>28946046
>They give a shit, they just let Twilight deal with it since its her pet project
this

are you gonna argue with the princess
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>>28942245

Who's the best pony? that's right, Luna
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>>28937766
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>>28946457
>Overrated princess
Have a (You)
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>>28946494

Why thank (You)
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>>28946035
You're always welcome to come back; the general is the general.
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>>28937766
But it is Adam that Ruins Everything.
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>>28947440
no we are not >>28936571
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>>28947480
That anon admitted he was wrong >>28937191.
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>>28937842
How much should Glimmer be punished?

Applejack wrought havoc on Ponyville when she was exhausted and ruined a family reunion but was forgiven.
Fluttershy brought a parasprite to town but was never punished.
Rarity screwed with her friend's confidence, endangered herself and several Wonderbolts, and used dark magic to redesign Ponyville but was forgiven.
Twilight brainwashed everyone into loving a doll and got a stern talking to by Celestia.
Pinkie Pie overran the town with copies of herself but was forgiven.
Rainbow Dash destroyed the Cloudsdale weather factory but wasn't punished.

And I'm not saying this as a Glimmer apologist, because she definitely gets off to easy, I'm just wondering what degrees of offense warrant a character being punished. So far, the most punished characters seem to be Trixie, Spike, the Cutie Mark Crusaders, Rainbow Dash, and Princess Luna (self-punishing).
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>>28947775
Finally an intelligent comment in this kind of threads
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>>28947775
>Fluttershy
Also kidnapped Celestia's pet and no one cared.
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>>28948999
Twilight was all "Oh shit nigga what r u doin, yo hippie ass in the soup now." But you're right, Celestia didn't really care, just told her she should've asked first.
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>>28948999
she was in the right there
also holy shit how did celestia not notice how much distress fluttershy was in
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>>28948999
She dropped Discord on her ass later on
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>>28937842
i agree

>>28943370
I don't agree
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>>28947775
Is there a punished glimmer picture out there?
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>>28949678
just go to her general every 5th picture is abuse
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>>28949979
Wrong type of "punished" anon.
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>>28949995
oh that one
yeah i think there are a few of those floating around
where does the meme even come from
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Holy shit OP here, i was just shitposting , let the thread die or meme around, don't start serious conversation you cunty idiots!
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>>28950579
sorry op i am a fa/tg/uy it's what we do
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>>28949678
Didn't see any.

Let's change that.
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>>28947775
You know what? You're right. It's almost as if it's a show for little girls and them actually putting in effort to apply proper consequences for a character's actions "isn't worth their time"... this is why mlp will only ever be okay.
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>>28951359
Wow! Thanks fampai
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>>28952138
That would be contrary to the overarching theme of the show.

Consequencecucks, when will you ever learn?
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>>28952764
>the overarching theme of the show
friendship?
buy our toys?
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>>28952790
Along with forgiveness and rehabilitation.
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>>28952800
this
even chrysalis got the chance, and she definitely did worse than starlight
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>>28947775
You forgot Lightning Dust as one of the punished characters, specially since she had one of the most severe punishments after she did literally nothing wrong.

It's not the fact that Starlight was never punished what annoys me. Honestly, I'd prefer that there weren't so many "punishments" in the show. But this inconsistency, this arbitrariness annoys the fuck out of me. We have characters punished over the stupidest things and then we have an episode where Starlight does something completely fucked up, she doesn't regret it, she doesn't have to fix the mess she created and she's only asked to "pretend" she's sorry (since, from what we see in the show, we can't know if she's actually sorry, the only thing that matters is that she says she is). Why?

And it's not like the current showrunners had decided to forget about punishments. We had literally a fucking rehash of MMDW, just to punish Rainbow Dash. So the show is as inconsistent as it's always been, except one of the characters that for some reason doesn't deserve to be punished is a fucking sociopath. The whole thing of crime-and-punishment has always been pretty fucked up, but now it's just completely insane.
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>>28952837
i got nothing
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>>28952837
Are you talking specifically about Every Little Thing She Does? Because Starlight did seem to regret doing what she did by the end of the episode. When she was prattling on about how she could have done the spell better, I don't think that was her being a sociopath, I think that was her stalling and keeping herself from admitting to Twilight that she was terrified of failing friendship lessons. Terrified of failing lessons, where have we seen that before?

You say we can't know if she's sorry, but how is her being sorry different from other ponies who just said they were sorry and tried to fix the mess they made? A sad face and an apology is par for the course in being regretful in this show. They have to resolve the conflict by the end of the episode somehow.

Starlight Glimmer: I really messed up. I cast the spell because I was nervous about working with you on the friendship lessons.
Rainbow Dash: Well, here's a friendship lesson for ya — don't cast spells on your friends!
Starlight Glimmer: Believe me, I know. What I did was wrong, a-and I can't take it back. You're right to be upset, and I hope one day I can make it up to you. But all I can say is... I'm sorry. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've gotta go clean the castle covered in wet cake batter and spiders.

She apologizes and goes to clean up the castle as punishment.
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>>28953746
>Starlight did seem to regret doing what she did
The problem with this is, Twilight refers to the apologizing as a "friendship" lesson. Starlight didn't just apologized when she realized she had done something wrong to her "friends", she apologized when her teacher asked her to. The exact same excuse that made her mind-controlling game "justifiable" makes her apologies absolutely worthless, we have absolutely no way to know if she was sincere, because if she regretted nothing but still wanted to be a good student, she'd have done exactly the same.

>how is her being sorry different from other ponies who just said they were sorry
We never know, but at least other ponies seem sorry before anyone points that they should feel sorry. For fuck's sake, even the Crusaders seemed sorry in Ponyville Confidential, even before the other ponies punished them. Starlight must have known better.

>"if you'll excuse me, I've gotta go clean the castle"
And this is the cherry on top of the cake. We already saw Spike cleaning the mess while she was doing nothing at all. And now she uses this kind of sick emotional blackmail to make the other ponies clean the rest of the mess.
>"Fluttershy: Oh, and I feel awful for disturbing all of those cute little spiders and bats."
Sorry, what the actual fuck? Fluttershy SHOULDN'T feel awful. She did NOTHING. What kind of shit was that? Starlight did exactly what any manipulative bitch would do, pretend to be sorry and wait for her victims to fix her mess. In fact, we never see Starlight cleaning anything. We see her sewing with Rarity, or taking care of critters with Fluttershy, the same things she was supposed to do at the beginning of the episode.

While I have no problem admitting that I hate Starlight Glimmer, I must point that I hate her solely for this episode. I kinda used to like her, but that episode was so poorly written, so fucking terrible, it made her absolutely unlikable for me. I can't help to hate her now.
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>>28954055
Seems like you are just projecting your hate on your view of the episode. I rewatched the end and actually expected it to be as bad but now seeing it again I don't think so. She genuinely looks sorry. Also if we break the 4th wall for a moment and think what the writers wanted to show here we can clearly see that it was not meant to show that she is not sorry. Of course you can say fuck the 4th wall I take what I see, but I think it's not bad to keep that in mind.
>emotional blackmail
really? you think she expected them to follow and do the work for her? that seems far fetched
>we never see starlight cleaning anything
just because we don't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. obviously it happened. so you think she managed to turn it in a way to have to do no work? for her doing all those things probably was work and she didn't see it as part of the lesson since she told twilight afterwards "it's probably gonna be a while before I tackle those friendship lessons again"
also fluttershy saying this has as much value as all the other random excuses to go with her.
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>>28954055
There's a difference between a poorly written episode and an episode that portrays a character as a psychopath with no moral fibre.

This episode is what made me fall in love with her.
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>>28954702
oh boy here we go
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>>28954392
To be fair, I haven't rewatched that episode. I wasn't biased when I watched it (fuck, I loved AHWT) and I ended up hating the whole thing, if I rewatched it now it'd be even worse.

>if we break the 4th wall for a moment and think what the writers wanted to show here
And this is part of my problem. Probably this is just a Feeling Pinkie Keen situation, and "what the writers wanted to show" and what we actually see is different for some innocent mistake. But what we actually see here is too different from what we should expect. We've seen Starlight showing real emotions before (pic related), but in this episode she looked just fake. So, either there's something really wrong with Starlight, or there's something really wrong with the show.

Anyway, in >>28952837 my point wasn't as much "Starlight is a sociopath", even if Starlight was really sorry, what she did was much worse than what the Crusaders did in Ponyville Confidential. I'm just mad because I don't understand which kind of logic uses this show to decide when a character should be punished. And I think that, instead of improving, it's getting worse and worse to the point of becoming completely ridiculous.
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>>28954739
>pic related
My bad.
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>>28937766
>Shitpost thread
>Gets actual discussion going somehow

>Show discussion threads
>Always turn into shitposting parties
Never change /mlp/
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>>28948999
999
666
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>>28954739
just on a quick note I am not the original anon you started the discussion with. only this >>28954392 is me.
The writers are pretty inconsistent with the whole punishment thing. But what would the appropriate punishment even be? Got anything? Because I honestly don't know. Starlight might be doing shit, maybe she is even a sociopath or psychotic or whatever, but at least she is learning and getting better, what more could Twilight do? Put her in prison? Why destroy a ponys life if you can help, sure shit like this will happen from time to time but Starlight got a huge magic potential, just like celestia wanted to try to reform discord, it was a danger but she knew that this could bring a great ally, the same goes for starlight. Surely not a reason to like her more, but then why don't people hate discord as much? He did everything solely for fun, Starlight is just broken.
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>>28954805
>what would the appropriate punishment even be?
None. Even disliking Starlight, I approve that she wasn't punished. I embrace this "forgiveness" in the show, it fits well with all the friendship thing, I think it's nice. The randomness is what bothers me.

When I say that it's not fair that other ponies are punished over more innocent offenses, that doesn't mean that I want to see Starlight punished, I don't, it just mean that I don't want to see the show punishing those other ponies. For fuck's sake, if we have another MMDW rehash I'm flying to Canada to smash Jim Miller's head.
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Punishment seems to be mitigated based on the reasoning behind the bad deed performed. If a character had good intentions and is extra remorseful over what they did, they're more likely to be forgiven.

Usually this is the case.
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>>28954888
Liar trips, the Crusaders had good intentions in Hearts and Hooves Day, they were regretful and they were punished anyway.
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>>28954905
They were children punished by their de facto parents.

Who are friends to punish friends?
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>>28954905
>usually
being the keyword.
Spike was also keeping to his word of letting Twilight sleep and was punished anyway in Princess Spike.
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>>28954905
>save a miserable, self-hating outsider from continuing that way, showing him an optimistic purpose to his life
>get punished
I hate Applejack.
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>>28954702
she's so fucking cute holy shit
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>>28947775
I think that in Equestria, as long as you're remorseful you're able to walk away from pretty much everything. Trixie was remorseful, Starlight was remorseful, and to a much lesser extent Discord was too. If you're a villain without regrets you get fucked over, such as Tirek, Chrysalis or Sombra. At least, that's my take on it.
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>>28947775
>Princess Luna (self-punishing)
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>>28955061
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>>28955105
"You remind me much of myself"
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>>28954933
Twilight is also her mentor, she has the responsibility to do that. Usually you don't have friends if you are being shit to them. Starlight got lucky to find the best ponies, literally elements of harmony.
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>>28947775
All of those pale in comparison to being a complete fuckwit who ruins several timelines because "muh boyfriend".
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>>28956532
She didn't know what was going on in those timelines
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>>28954739
(cont.)
Just checked it and
>Storyboard: Sabrina Alberghetti
Fuck. Sibsy was supposed to be one of the "good" storyboarders. This is fucking disappointing, I checked it expecting to see that the episode was a newbie's fault, now I'm pretty sure that there wasn't any mistake, what the episode showed is what the staff wanted to show. And that means that the broken people in the SGT are right, Starlight is actually a sociopath. I shouldn't have checked it.
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>>28955087
Kek
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>>28947775
put to death
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She's Twilight's replacement. They need to add a new unicorn to the main cast to bring balance to the force.
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>>28960711
She is also Twilight 2.0, better waifu in every way.
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>voice is so bland i cant even remember it
>mane looks like shit
>color scheme is a pain to the eye
>name is fucking cringy
>backstory is stupid and overblown
>personality is even more boring than fluttershys
>has no friends because she sucks so hard
>is supposidly super at magic yet sucks at doing even something remotely good
>seems like a femdom and those are gross
>unicorn
>appears and reappears because writers keep forgetting her
>is from season 5 or something cant even remember
>twilights "student" which ruins Twilight even more than just the wings
>has done literally nothing to impress or deserving of praise
>has really shitty ass-fans
>fans who like background characters more than mane six
>less of a personality than fucking derpy or lyra
>really boring episodes which approach spike levels of bad
>is legitametly autistic and cant even make friends with the elements of friendship

the list goes on and on
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>>28961554
what list? the list of random wrong statements?
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>>28961568
Yes.
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>>28961554
this so much
they make Dashfags tolerable by comparison
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>>28961554
>seems like a femdom and those are gross
>unicorn
Hold up there, nigger
You just have shit taste if you think those are bad things
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>>28961736
It's retarded that he thinks Glimmer is autistic when she manipulated an entire town into giving up their cutie marks with her charismatic social skills.

Good reason to automatically discard his opinion.
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>>28961831
it means she couldn't make friends except my manipulating ponies
so, he's right
she is a shit pone that needs to be hanged, gutted, and her entrails burned
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>>28957514
Somehow.
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>>28961554

I cleaned your list and saved things that make her best pony

>backstory is stupid and overblown
Which is the base for a very unstable pony
>personality is even more boring than fluttershys
Do you mean more submissive?
>has no friends because she sucks so hard
Awkward females are a rare thing
>is supposidly super at magic yet sucks at doing even something remotely good
Remove the magic thing and she is a useless pony that deserves nothing
>seems like a femdom and those are gross
Only for old glim, nu glim is exactly the opposite
>has done literally nothing to impress or deserving of praise
Another sign that she must be thankful of even be alive
>has really shitty ass-fans
If by shitty you mean not-hugboxers then you are right
>less of a personality than fucking derpy or lyra
Which means you can model her to be the perfect submissive mare
>is legitametly autistic
Mental problems are hot
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>>28961940
nah she's a cute pone
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>>28961940
Are you sure you are not a glimmerfag?
Because thats pretty much what goes on in >>28922848
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I hate to see this thread on page 10
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>>28965142
I hate to see it on page 6
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>>28937842
>She just got forgiven at every turn

Yes, that was a real change since this show is normally all about revenge, punishment and suffering. If they keep this up, people will get the impression that MLP is about friendship or something.
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>>28965517

Page 10 worries me more
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Starshit is a poor man's Sunset.
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>>28966793
sunset is a poor mans twilight
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>>28966795
Exactly.
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>>28966793
other way around famiglia
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Can't even hold her face right.
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>>28955088
>be Anon
>go out into town
>rape Fluttershy's
>"Anon! What the gay hay are you doing!?"
>TwiTwi ruins your fun
"I'm sorry."
>you pick up a foal and cradle it
"I'm sorry."
>you lay down and get into a comfortable position on a bear rug with a fire nearby
"Sorry."
>"Oh, okay."
>and that's why equestria fucking rules
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>>28967045
k e k
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>>28966793

>sunshit
>better than any pony
its funny to see shimmerniggers think that they are kinda acceptable in this board
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>>28969129
It's okay Glimmerfag. You didn't know /mlp/ would end up despising your waifu. You take out your frustration on those on those pathetic Shimmerfags as much as you need.
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>>28969167
They don't actually hate her. They don't have any reason to. They are basically just a bunch of sheep who have succumbed to the propaganda of the anti glimmer autists. I've already said multiple times in the past the glimmer hate is just a bandwagon meme that simpletons will fall for simply because "it's the cool thing to do".
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>>28937766
So who is this bitch? She the new Twilight?
>inb4 DYEWTS
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>>28969329
I legit hate her, so... you're wrong
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>>28970395
Sir, are you aware you are a meme?
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>>28937766
>*everything's already ruined*
...
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Reddit posting in 3, 2, 1...
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>>28969167

Sunset is a likeable character but I dont see her outside of her general anymore
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And there is Reddit. Ebin upboated xddd lmao.
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>>28971728
>>28971739
>doesn't like the thread
>still bumps it
kek retard
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>>28971758
>Redditors don't even know what is sage
Not much of a surprise tbqh.
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>villain gets redeemed
>gets off with a slap on the wrist
>now lead a better life than the people whose lives they have ruined, hanging out with the main cast and doing cool shit
>but anon they are really suffering on the inside because of like, bad conscience and stuff
This trope never fails to make me mad. I really want to like Starlight Glimmer as a character as I like her design, but every time I think about it I want to slap her. She should've at least spent some downtime in a dungeon to make it all less infuriating.
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>>28971758
Do not use His name in vain heretic
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>>28971760
>implying you remembered to sage
kek

>>28971797
kek
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>>28971791
You are very jealous and think punishing people is okay despite them having learned their lesson and showing great potential.
You are worse than oldglim
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>>28937766
Everything was already ruined when she got here, OP.
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>>28971854
This guy has learned his lesson and showed great potential as a pedagogician. He should've been pardoned and invited to live in the Kremlin with the President of Russia and all his friends. His victims would've understood.
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>>28972108
I have no idea who this is.
The victims are entitled for compensation, or their family in case the victims are dead. That is usually done in the form of money although often no money in the world can replace lost limbs or family members.

However they are not entitles to revenge. Revenge is one of if not the lowest human notions possible. It achieves little and is a destructive force. As a society we should strive to reform criminals, not punish them for the sheer satisfaction of their victims. Punishment alone doesn't even teach people that what they did was really bad.

His victims have no say in the matter of where he should be allowed to work. That's up to his employers to decide. Whether his victims are happy with it does simply not matter.

The reason why people would and do still go to jail is because everyone can say that they have learned their lesson in order to get out.
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Check this one
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Bump for best pony.
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>>28974295
This
Glim = best pone
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>>28937766
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>>28963178
>Which is the base for a very unstable pony
Sure anon, totally not a copy of any other pony's we know.
>Do you mean more submissive?
No, it means she's fucking boring
>Awkward females are a rare thing
Have you ever even talked to a girl?
>Which means you can model her to be the perfect submissive mare
This is just fucking pathetic.
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bump because fuck anti glimmer autists
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I want to brush Glimmy's tail.
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>>28977820
I want to brush her ass
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>>28977909
Wow. Lewd.
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>>28969329
>I don't get why people don't like a thing I like
>Must be a meme
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>>28969329
I actually hate her, she has ruined the show.

Even before i even joined this board (Only been here a month) she ruined the show for me.

Sorry not sorry dude.
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>>28979686
no she didn't
her episodes were by far some of the best
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>>28969329

It's not the cool thing to do. She sucks because she is a sociopath and it has been shown that sociopaths can not be fixed. They can not be helped and will continue to see the world in their own distorted way of games, pawns, and kings. Twilight is a threat to Glimmer, so to get her way, she appeases Twilight by 'getting better' even through its been shown she does it just to please Twilight and not because she just wants to. She feels she has no way of taking out Twilight so she just rules underneath her while biding her time or waiting it out until she can leave again without suspision. She steals what little screne time and plot focus is left for the main characters specifically.
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