MLP analysis

I vote for Drowning in Horseshoes

>>28932271
>>28932283
I vote for a non retarded, non idiotic piece of ahit pretending to "review" when he's actually commenting useless shit. "Look at that bird, so funny." "In my uneducated, untalented opinion... I declare this episode amazing because it haz le unfunny "jokes" pandering to my autism"

>>28932271
I like Moliminus, he makes a lot of valid points. Like how Celestia is truly evil because of her creating cutie marks basically to force ponies to fulfill specific tasks. The best slave doesn't realize they're a slave.

>>28932310
And then there's the pseudo-intellectual reviewers who completely miss the fucking point and bother only with stupid ass theories instead of reviewing the quality of the content - how it was written, conceptualized, animated.

Dwk

>>28932331
this

>>28932283
Drowning in Horseshoes is a riot but he's not so much a reviewer as a surrealist comedian that parodies internet reviewers and did an extended skit on bronydom.

>>28932310
Moliminus is a bit of a hack and a copycat tbqh but is mostly harmless.

I like Dr Wolf even though he seems to like shit and hate good stuff for weird reasons some times, his friend silver quill is breddy good as well despite his need to insert unnecessary or cringy ham into everything.

mad munchkin is alright.

>>28932383
what you said about DIH is true, but he IS ALSO an MLP analyst, id go as far as to say he is the best one.

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Anyone that likes Moliminous deserves to have their throat slit.

Our text reviewers are a million times better than any of those "analyst reviewers" pretend to be.

It's just too bad none of them tried making video reviews.

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>>28932271
Let's e real here for a sec: Are there any good ones in the community?

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>>28932497
DWK

>>28932497
Of course not, they're ''analyzing'' My Little fucking Pony.

>>28932283
The only "MLP analyst" worth watching from my knowledge.

>>28932497
I haven't seen 1 actual reviewer who used audio-visual format.
But I've seen at least 120 good ones who typed all their criticism in text.

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DWK, though I'm hard pressed to call him a "reviewer" since he more so does hilarious recaps that are totally legit, and Drowning in Horseshoes.

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>>28932271

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_TdyBIHlh0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypAbPBMfpjg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fHiPohazFo

and Drowning in Horseshoes

Have
>fun


why people don't do more of these anyway

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>tfw you're a good analyst/reviewer and no one know's who you are so you won't ever be mocked in threads like these

>>28932616
If you're a good one period there's no reason for people to mock you unless you're a gigantic faggot.

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>>28932625
>he is calling himself good and posted rainbow topcunt

>>28932331
Yea, not like they come from what actually happens in the episodes or anything.
That's why they're theories, they're not canon but are interesting to think about.

Don't be such a dick because someone has an opinion that differs from yours.

>>28932692
Theories aren't opinions, the fuck are you talking about?

>>28932707
The opinion is that he has a few decent videos. Did you forget what the whole thread was about while getting your panties in a bunch?

>>28932497
Seriously, the best reviewer for any episode is yourself. Form your own opinion on things and enjoy what you enjoy (or don't) about any episodes you watch.

Then come here and share an opinion in a format that allows for conversation rather then 30 min videos of conspiracy theories and bullshit pulled from huge jumps in logic.

At least then you won't be like all the other sheep in the fandom.

Welp, this whole thread went downhill pretty damn fast.
Way to go guys.

>>28932759
Then make the thread better

>>28932271
Oh OP It's so obvious.

[Spoiler] None of them [/spoiler]

>>28932747
But what you just described is what happens already. Most people don't just match the opinion of their favourite reviewer. That person might offer a new perspective to something but not necessarily change their opinion completely. Exactly like coming on here and writing a review. What difference does the format of said review take. That is until making a "funny skit" takes priority over an actual review

>>28932855
You can't have a back and forth with a video and you can't point out BS jumps in logic that people call "a new perspective". Some of the most hated episodes are simply because a "reviewer" made all kinds of jumps in logic to crap on it. Videos are by nature one sided and act as propaganda to influence the sheepish fandom in silly ways.
The result is incredibly stupid headcanons like "Celestia creating cutie marks and is secretly evil" that was described by a comment earlier.
You end up with half the fandom incapable of having a canon discussion about the show. I would hope the people who frequent this board are better at it then the audience of a "reviewer".

Greg when he has commentary on episodes
TBBBAP (RIP)
Drowning in Horsehoes (RIP)
DWK ("analysis", but still amazing)

>>28932271
They're all shitty

I really like Headhunter Productions.

>>28932587
DWK is the only person capable of legit horse reactions.

Antony C
BronyNotion
Tommy Oliver's pony days (RIP)
Digibrony's early days

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>>28934087
BronyNotion is an odd one. As far as analysis videos go, his are some of the better ones, and yet it seems like everyone in the "analysis" clique hates his fucking guts, and I don't know why.

>>28932271
his oc is kinda cute

any porn

>>28932283
He's not very good but you can really see the effort he puts into things which is nice.

>>28932271
This thread is still alive?

wtf when I try posting anything related to the fandom and not the show my shit gets deleted.

Fucking mods must be on Thanksgiving break. I thought mods weren't thankful for anything.

>>28932587
These are entertaining and not actually cocksucking the shit writing.
Too bad the rest of the fandom will take it as a joke rather than a fact that the episodes are abysmally bad and written bad on purpose... and you'd have to be a complete fucking idiot to enjoy something made to be unlikable and unappealing.

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>>28932345
This is the only answer. I personally don't enjoy "serious" analysis where it seems like they are pulling shit out of their asses most of the time and try and be all ethical and moral about it and shit with some agenda.

DWK pisses on all that and makes it fun.

Not to mention the social stigma of some of these analysis reviewers rubs me the wrong way, especially the way they act or are treated at cons. Good thing it is easy to ignore and avoid all that BS whenever I go though. Still hope to see DWK at one though. He doesn't seem to give a shit.

9.775/10 Would definitely have drink with.

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>>28932271
there is no "best" since its just a bunch of people giving their point of view. thats like asking who the best anonymous poster is.

>>28935715
>thats like asking who the best anonymous poster is.

But anon, I'M the best anonymous poster. Everyone knows that.

>>28935665
>He doesn't seem to give a shit.

He's been to Babs a few times, but before horsefamous. He's chill as fuck, which is probably why he doesn't want to be put on a pedestal.

>>28932310
moliminus makes good everything wrong with videos
thats it

MediocreEditor/Keith cool guy is pretty decent.

>>28935715
>thats like asking who the best anonymous poster is.

Dont be silly, of course its me.

>>28932283
fpbp

>>28932310
>x is actually y because it follows from my headcanon
Stop

>>28936240
Actually, the best anonymous poster is my cousin Keith. About 50% of all capped posts from an anon come from Keith.

Voice of Reason, although he kind of stopped doing any stuff but collabs around the time season 6 started.

>the best analysts are the people who aren't analysts and don't analyze
pack it up senpaitachi

When FNGR can be assed into a review I find he got some good opinions

I wouldn't necessarily say "best" because I hardly watch any of them, but I like Strebiskunk a lot. Too bad he's dealing with complications and hasn't been releasing videos on episodes from the last two seasons, except for a few.

>>28936395
>FGNR

>>28936434
Like I said. When he can be assed to review an episode and not be the brony version of gawker

>>28936476
He can't review either. His A Hearth's Warming Tail review consists of him saying "this proves that the original hearths warming story is made up too, because this story is made up". It's the sort of shit that >>28932331 mentioned. He hardly reviewed the episode for what it was, just made dumb head canons.

>>28936506
To be fair the story of the first thanksgiving and the founding of America are embellished to hell and back so it's not to far a leap to argue the same of hearths warming

>>28936522
You're missing my point. It wasn't just the dumb headcanon, it was the dumb logic he used to get there too. "One story is fake, so another one is too". Does that mean every story ever told is fake? The fact that humans can invent fiction prove that all stories are fiction?

>>28936526
Fair point made.

>>28932271

Most of these fags dont analyze shit, they just give a short synopsis of the latest episode and then jack off to how much they liked/hated it. It's lazy faux intellectual horsefamery and just an excuse to have a badly animated OC shill a patreon account. In terms of pony youtube videos, it's the cheap fetish greentexts of content. Fuck pony episode """"analysis"""" and the zero-standards crowd that consumes it. I bet your favorite restaurant is McDonalds, your favorite music is dubstep, and your favorite movie of all time was Zootopia.

Is making money off being a "reviewer" still profitable?

>>28937277
Not anymore. Anyone who does is already too big to surpass. You will never make any substantial amount of money from reviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTab_mVqN3c

This guy actually reviews.

>>28932271
Not even gonna lie, probably the one you posted.

If we're going for the most entertaining one, then it would defentiley be Gibon

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Dr Wolf is one of my favorites, though his episode reviews have stagnated. I really like some of his "Moment With Dr Wolf" videos when they're not TOO autistic. He doesn't have much constructive to say on the show itself, but he makes a lot of good discussion about the community around the show.

His guest artists are almost always great to look at, and his voiceovers aren't half bad. Great to fall asleep to!

>>28936609
>implying mcdonalds is bad

>>28938101
Go back to playing Minecraft you degenerate.

>>28936506
Hey Sheldon

>>28938211
Sorry man, off the mark completely.

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>>28932271
Gibbontake was cool and hilarious for around 10 reviews, then he very quickly went clinically insane.

I wouldn't exactly go to him for profound insight though.

>>28937834
If you like safe opinions and luvy-duvy moments with muh feelings. Minus the WeimTime AMWDW which barely got watched because it wasn't a "Wolf I have a problem please help me boo hoo." and rather a "Wolf let's discuss this challenge that is apparent in the community together like adults" which I admit can see why people thought it was boring. But it made some good points about why making a Youtube channel isn't a very good option to get expand your skills most of the time, but if you are hell bent on making it big, there are some things you should consider before investing your time in it.

Anyways, love him as a person. Think he is a great guy with strong morals. But sometimes I just wanna see someone throw a shoe once in a while to aggregate things. Not in a stupid drama kind of way but a challenging kind of way. Like when Silver Quill made that video challenging the art ethic and quality of that damned artist IDW picked up for a couple comics. He got some mud for that, but I had to admire him for calling out literal bullshit that people were eating up just because muh idw comics without realizing "Holy shit this art is actually terrible". Sure he wasn't direct all the time with it but the point was made nonetheless and it aggregated things.

But I have to admit, I watched that video pretty buzzed and don't remember it well. So fuck me if none of that was true.

Is TBBBAP still a thing?

>>28940079
No.
One brother went to college, the other became a NEET.
Guess which one did which?

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>>28932271
>>28932497
Brawny Buck

>>28940306
Only because of Irish John.

>>28938473
>Then he very quickly went clinically insane.

Finally someone else who noticed.

It was honestly disheartening seeing that happen. With every episode/video he released, it got worse and worse. Having known someone that went through the same thing, I wanted and tried to help him, but never got a response. I admit he put way too much of his self-value in the hands of the internet to decide on which led to what looked like his psychosis. But the internet in turn "took a shit on him" so to say by means of lack of viewership despite his best efforts I guess and forgetting about him as other reviewers/content creators became more popular than he was. He tried convincing himself that popularity didn't matter but eventually admitted his struggle one day and stopped doing videos.

It was just depressing.

There was this guy named WeimTime who tried helping him too kinda and even made a video with Dr. Wolf trying to convince people not to put their self-worth into something as unpredictable (and sometimes maddening) as the YouTube viewer market which gives little benefit. It's like when those South-side kids put all their hope into getting into the NBA or becoming some rich and famous rapper, only to find out 0.00001% of people who try ever get even close to either of those two things and are left pretty broken, misguided, and angry at the "system". Same thing can apply to kids and teens who put all their hope and a lot of effort into becoming a fucking YouTube star or MLG on Twitch or some shit. It's unrealistic like this anon >>28938484 said or whatever.

>>28940307
Brawny's videos are how I discovered MLP. He's also one of the few people I know of who can talk about morality and ethics without sounding/being holier than thou towards anyone. Plus he can be funny without resorting to vulgarity or swearing, which is something you don't all that often these days and which I find refreshing.

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It's one of the problems with the whole horse-famous concept and one of the reasons why I personally am very conscientious on who I "support" in anything. I won't support someone's work if it subjectively causes them to further pursue a field that can or is known to not produce healthy benefits. In other words, feeding egos can be wrong and destructive in the long run for that person and even those around them.

Pic kinda related

>>28940777
Shit I meant to reply to >>28940771

>>28940774
Which makes it annoying as fuck when he collabs with some of the other fucktards who try to put on a song and dance.

>>28940771
How can you tell he's actually insane and not just a bit odd?

>>28932310
Moliminous is fucking cancer. He's got the worst of the ego shit, but he also does click-bait and all kinds of unjustifiable bullshit. I don't personally blame Jim Miller for blocking him.

>>28940777
Pic related has more to do with Youtube's system than anyone. It promotes channels that frequently post long videos. Making actual content is a lengthy, work-intensive process, so Youtube won't showcase their products. The only people who thrive in the Youtube environment today are people making questionably derivative, low-quality drivel.

The best commentator is ILoveKimPossibleAlot.

>>28932271
If you want good ones why post a literal edge lord who's takes Hasbro's money to shill?

>>28932616
>Being a britcuck
Your podcast is shit, ^:)

>>28942667
delete this

You Owekin

>>28934158
WHY do they?

I like DoYouWantToBuildABetterBrony because I like watching niggers cry.

>>28943680
Because he doesn't analyse, he makes far reaching head canons.

>>28932271
Whichever ones prove their analytical talents by making accurate predictions which are borne out by the show.

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>>28940879
Not that anon but I really wanted to reply. In actuality and in all seriousness we can't. No one can from watching some videos. Not even a fucking MD. But I myself developed psychosis at the ripe age of 18 when many people do. 80% of all people experience it at least once in their lifetime. Most common case being drug overdose or sleep deprivation. You can either get it from over medication, high amounts of stress and emotion, or what some Doctors like to think is a hereditary trait correlated with dimensia. There is a shit ton of nothing but theory and guesswork since science honestly doesn't know much about the brain as people believe. It took my doc 4 years to diagnose me with environmental psychosis after a shit ton of studies and different medications.

Whatever sorry for the story, I am fine now and almost done with this fucking degree in a good field that will give me the normal life with a wife and kids and a dog like every good American. But my point is Psychosis is a developmental process with sometimes obvious signs. Gibbon was the first and last reviewer I watched. And I noticed his downward spiral with each video. And sure we dont know if he actually has it but there are some obvious signs that can lead to it, assuming he was not putting on an act. He admitted he was getting more and more depressed, then he started getting tics. Now i don't account for the personal hygiene myth people say is a sign because you can be pretty normal and just be a slob. But the depression and the tics were the important things.

But even then I think he is more likely an odd person who got really depressed and that's it. I'd rather assume the more likely case than contribute to uneducated diagnosing. All I'm saying is that I'm not surprised many people thought he went crazy because people often correlate his weird behavior with psychotic disorders. It's possible but who knows. I feel bad for the depression though.

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>>28941279
Yea hence why I said kinda related. I was in a hurry to work and didn't want my long ass post of passion and autism to go without a picture. I made that a long time ago to bash on analysts but didn't think through its purpose this morning.

>>28940777

This whole 'horse famous" concept is actually dominance hierarchy at its foundation. You exist in many dominance hierarchies, in fact not only our species, but many others too exist in dominance hierarchies, and they drive our daily activities in every single facet of our lives.

I'm the best and you're all hacks.

>>28944224
Aw sweet. An ideological model. I love those. Hey, I don't suppose you've heard of rape culture? Do you want to talk about ideological models?

(The secret of the model is that you're a rapist unless you buy my book, by the way)

>>28944224
Sounds like something an sjw would say desu.

But now you got me curious. And I'm genuinely asking. Where did you first learn of that concept? It's ok to say you took a humanitarian class at liberal state university anon. A lot of us have considering its a gen ed.

>>28940771
Why is it that these threads always bring out the retards who think they can psychoanalyze people based on their YouTube videos? I bet you also think Horseshoes was an alcoholic and Digi had an identity crisis.

>>28941279
it really is a shame that they made the length change

i wonder why they have not switched back yet the problem the change was made to fix is gone now and i doubt the companys who are having there products advertised are happy with the change either.

>>28932497
Maybe one, the rest are drama whores.

>>28932759
It's a thread about analysts, hard to go downhill when you are already talking about pure shit

>Male commentator.
>Chooses a FEMALE OC

>>28944652
I always play as a girl in games.
Fucking fight me.

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>>28944468
Well I can psychoanalyze your post and can officially say you're a faggot.

I agree with you though still. But fans of people who over think a show for little girls tend to do a little over thinking themselves. Not a good thing but definitely no surprise.

>>28932747

This. More of this. For a period of a couple of months, I was fucking obsessed with reviewers in hopes that I could find one that agreed with me. I wanted to validate that my opinion wasn't stupid, but looking back those people were MLP ANALYSTS. That's like coming on 4Chan to actually spread your love for the show. I should have expected overly critical, whiny, low intelligience gripes from people who don't even know what the fuck they want! I love MLP and I Newbie Dash and season 6 were great.

>>28936609
You're funny. I like you.

>>28944772
It's one thing to overthink a self-contained work of fiction, it's another to extrapolate details about a person's real life from their creative output. These things aren't really comparable if you ask me.

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>>28945003
Mhm definitely. Sad thing is is that Gibbon did say he had depression a couple times. Pretty normal if you think about it though. His reasoning was the odd thing. Getting depressed from people not watching your yootoob videos as much as the other reviewers doesn't make sense to me. Failing college is depressing. A death in the family or friends is depressing. Your dog dying is depressing. I mean I'm being objective but I can go on. Call me elitist but the value of horse fame baffles me and getting sad for not having it does all the more.

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>>28946126
You're right about the depression part. A lot of people seem to have it these days, self diagnosed or not. The fandumb is no different.

But what exactly baffles you about the rest of it? Horse fame is just a meme itself. As far as I know most people dont give a shit about it. The thing many people really want is just one or all of the following: to be popular, loved, worshipped, and adored. People will do ridiculous or stupid things to find value. And it's not above most people to base some or all of their own value off of other's approval ratings of them, or in this case, the approval of their content which creators hold synonymous with their intrinsic self worth.

I could go on, but it's not rocket science. It's just human nature. And people who are more likely to have self esteem issues to begin with are more likely to get depressed when they feels others don't approve of them or their work.

But yea letting others determine your value in something as subjective as a social media video always has its drawbacks.

Hurr durr

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>>28946126
You're a obviously a privileged straight white male anon, who doesn't know what true pain is.

And that's knowing you'll never be with your pony waifu.

So fuck you normalfag.

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>>28946208
I get what your saying and know most of it's accurate but I'm just trying to be frank here. Wanting to be popular is children's play.

I mean come the fuck on, the last time I even cared about how much my peers adored me was middle school. High school was when I worked out and bulked up so I wouldn't get my ass beat. And college was where I got a solid degree in a professional field so I wouldn't get my ass beat by adult life.

So I guess what baffles me is why many analysts and other content creators divulge their self worth into a show for little girls and/or the community around it to a point of immaturity. You can give a sociological explanation all you want it still seems fucking retarded and completely noninstrumental.

Don't get me wrong, even I want certain people to like me, but not over something like analyzing a linear cartoon.

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>>28946297
>Linear cartoon

Fuck you faggot, Friendship is Magic has the deepest lore there is that leaves even the great mind of Steven Hawking in a stupor. And if it weren't for these highly intelligent, progressive, and innovatively thinking analysts, we would be less than nothing.

Show some respect you piece of shit.

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>>28932271
>what was / is the best MLP ANALYSIS YOUTUBER?

How is this thread related to the show and not the fandumb?

Besides they all suck and make trash content that is easily forgettable and a general waste of time. Same goes with most fandom content. Especially the fucking reactors who do nothing but garnish a reputation based on personality alone.

The only good things about the ride is pissing people off with horses, the porn, and seeing horse famous people crash and burn like the whole KP debacle.

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>>28946431
>All analysts suck.
>He's never seen Drowning in Horseshoes or DWK.

It's like you hate fun or something.

>>28932283
The first post is the best post.

>>28946453
Also the last post.

>>28946453
>Drowning in Horseshit
Here's your (you)
>DWK
Now I'll give you that one. But only because he takes a piss on the analyshit community by not taking any of it seriously and doesn't have an obnoxious or prevalent ego. He's basically the shitposter of that fucking community and I hope it pisses some of those asshats off. Even then I've seen three of his videos because it's not entertaining to me.

>>28946297
>it baffles me
What are you fucking new? Or are you just so enlightened by your own intelligence you can't understand autism at its finest?

>>28946527
Seeing how you're clearly an expert in identifying autism, why not partake in sharing your wisdom with the rest of us oh great one?

>>28946558
Nah I'd rather spend my weekend shitposting like 4chan was originally designed for.

If you want wisdom why not watch these anal-yst videos seeing how most of them apparently can pull gold plated shit from their asses and call it quality content for people to get their opinions from instead of formulating ideas themselves. Because that's what people want. To be fed shit with a spoon by someone else instead of learning to cook and feeding themselves.

>>28946527
>He's basically the shitposter of that fucking community
o anon. He is a shitposter of OUR community as well.

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>>28946590
>anal-yst
I bet it took you all night to think of that one junior.

Oh and you need to be at least 18 to use this site

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>>28946126
>but the value of horse fame baffles me

There's nothing really baffling about it. People want fame and fortune and they want it as easy as they can possibly get it. Hence why there are more analysts/reviewers/reactors in that content creator community than there are even active musicians in the fandom these days let alone most other content creator communities.

It's not hard to record yourself reacting to something you watch on your computer making funny faces and lolrandumb outbursts.

It's not hard to record yourself talking about a kid's show with simple still images of your donut steel.

It's not hard to make up headcanon on a concept that is already fiction with a pretty generic fantasy world.

It's not hard to make safe opinions on something fictional that won't offend people or just be cynical about everything which is passed off as "a sense of humor" these days.

It's. Not. Hard.

And if this is all it takes to become a king/queen/prince of other autists or horsefamoose, to get invited to all the cons and get panels, to get subscribers/followers on social media, to get showered in compliments and adoration from complete strangers, to get affirmation in light of poor character and bad choices, and to rake in some easy money, then it is not surprising in the least. In fact why the fuck haven't I tried this before?

The analysis community is a cancer to the fandom

:^)

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>>28946698
>It's not hard to do thing, so it must be bad for people.

Elitism at it's finest everybody.

With your logic then nothing on YouTube is of any worthwhile quality. So you can't call out analysts alone. Plenty of artists and musicians and even animators push out content that takes them a matter of hours to do sometimes and they get praised for it.

YouTube was never meant for the professional creative fields to begin with. So you can't hold things at unrealistic standards considering the age of these content producers.

How bout you take off those glasses of intellectual superiority and enjoy things for what they are instead of what you personally think they ought to be.

Why does everyone here get so triggered and butthurt whenever analysts are brought up? To be fair they are no worse/better than the other creatives in the community generally speaking.

>>28946749
>lol he must be elitist
Nice buzzword.

>take off those glasses of intellectual superiority and enjoy things for what they are instead of what you personally think they ought to be.

Way to completely miss the point of what I was saying. I was simply explaining to that poor, ignorant anon as to why it's no surprise why people do this stuff for fame seeing how it takes less effort and skill than most other creative abilities.

But sure, go ahead and dilute it all by using your giant paint brush of >muh elitism. If you really want to support anything that this fandom shits out for the sake of "enjoying it for what they are meant to be" then you are only part of the problem that's enabling the growth of subjectively poor quality content on a medium that was meant to encourage people to get better at what they do instead of meeting a quota to satisfy the autism it breeds.

>Plenty of artists and musicians and even animators push out content that takes them a matter of hours to do sometimes and they get praised for it.

I'll give you the fact that you can produce a piece of shit in a matter of hours regardless of the content category, but something you're clearly not seeing is that the analyst community set a ceiling of low quality standards from the very start" being still animations (with minor motion graphics from time to time) of their red and black OCs or recolors of characters from the show, that merely includes them doing a scripted voicover from a mic that doesn't need to be all that good, talking about something generally popular already requiring little, blind, or no further insight, make a joke or two that are often overdone and cringey, slap it all together with a clickbait thumbnail that portrays the video in a merely metaphorical aspect, and voila. You have what's called "the most popular thing in the fandom right now". Oh and to put the cherry on top, these analysts don't do a lot of their own editing/artwork most of the time.

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>>28946766
We get triggered when any content creation is brought up. All the communities have their downsides.

This thread's topic is just the analysts though you dipshit.

Not to mention they currently have to worst reputation for being asshats, bigots, cynical and arrogant tools who promote nothing but their own content and expect nothing but for people to worship and cater to them at every convention and on every social media website they go to.

Call me buthurt if you want but I honestly enjoyed content a lot more before this trend started in 2013.

Nice Satan dubs though.