this was not a good episode

>>28491165
It was fucking terrible. But glimmerfags will like anything as long as her fucking pink Shimmer is on it.

>>28491165
>this was not a good episode
You're right, it was a great one.

>>28491165
it sucked

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>>28491165
You're wrong.

>>28491295
Hi Jim.

>>28491165
I loved it. I thought it was hilarious.

>>28491318
>Watching this episode in VLC
Is like you want to do inception
>Shit opinion from shitty episode watched in shitty media player

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>>28491335
made me cringe tbqh. was a challenge to sit through

>>28491352
It didn't make me cringe, it was just like I was watching an episode where glimmer was basically Nyx, written by the nyxfag himself.

I just want some mind control porn now out of it.

Starlight: (sees the castle being flooded) Oh buck me...

And the rest is history

>>28491392
Probably something like that would've been slightly less painful to watch, at least he would've tried to do something nice with her Mary Sue.

M biggest issue is how they up and fucking forgive "oh she sounds sorry!" What? Fucking really?

>>28491477
It's a cartoon, you shouldn't expect no less from it.

>>28491438
same

>>28491165
Like all S6 episodes
I wonder why anyone would be surprised

>>28491165
i actually thought it was one of the best. I even chuckled a few times, something i have noticed to almost never do anymore when watching mlp

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Why is there at least one disgusting face in nearly every one of the new MLP episodes? Some of them aren't even bad episodes but the shitty faces really make them that less enjoyable.

Oh wait, I know why. Not to get all Mr. Enter here but isn't one of the new people from The Mighty Bee? That show had a ton of gross out moments.

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>>28492271
>Mighty Bee

That explains a lot...

>>28492228
I chuckled a couple times at some of the mind controlled pone stuff, but I still thought the episode was a 5/10. I was neutral on Starlight before but now starting to think she's shit.

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>>28491165
I contradict

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>>28492297
There's also someone from Johnny Test but I think I'm getting more Mighty Bee vibes than *whipcracks*

>>28492336
you would, glimmerfag

>>28491165
Dash is still upset with having been discorded

>>28492448
You just want them to be like Maud all the time? Also this was Sibsys last episode ever so maybe now you will get that.

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>>28492456
Hell yes, I would

>>28492472
>You just want them to be like Maud all the time?
Cool strawman fampai, I'm impressed that you managed to pull something like that completely out of your ass.

>Also this was Sibsys last episode ever so maybe now you will get that.
We can only hope.

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>>28492489
god bless reg

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>>28492489
WHY

>>28492228
>i actually thought it was one of the best. I even chuckled a few times,
tfw this season have lowered the bar so low that people start thinking its a great episode by getting few chuckles.

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>>28492489

>>28491165
OP is right this once

>>28492298
Are you me?

>>28491165
Glad I skipped last weeks episode, so was able to enjoy a good one this weekend.

>>28491352
The only part that made me cringe was when fluttershy was covered in bugs. Other than that, it just was another episode. Want cringe? Try the Breezies, or more recent, applejacks day off.

>>28491165
This was not a good season.

>>28499157
How was AJDAYOFF cringe at all? It was a mediocre somewhat boring and pointless episode...not cringe

Breezies is only cringe because of that awful shit Seabreeze

>>28499157
>Want cringe? Try the Breezies, or more recent, applejacks day off.
Most of this season has been cringe.

Celestia and Luna worfed down again, Celestia behaving like a cold bitch, the fucking cars, the "anti-haters" episode, every new male character being a disgusting sack of shit, all previous developing being tossed aside o make room for more memes and references (where the FUCK is Diamond Tiara) and Spike's episodes being written like rushed ass.

>>28499684
>Celestia and Luna worfed down again
Remember when everyone kept insisting that Celestia and Luna were super-powerful entities with various deeply hidden and disguised, emotional issues that stemmed from dealing with their near eternal lifespans?

Those were good times.

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>>28499684
>Celestia behaving like a cold bitch
Oh...yeah, she sighed at a donkey asking her how her hair moved...WHAT A BITCH

> the fucking cars
Yeah, trains are cool because hipsters like them but derby carts are somehow a problem despite being much less complex in terms of mechanics

>the "anti-haters" episode
Wasn't a thing

>every new male character being a disgusting sack of shit
Found the easily triggered beta cuck

>where the FUCK is Diamond Tiara
This isn't the final season despite what morons who don't take their medication (like you) think

>Spike's episodes being written like rushed ass.
Nobody has ever cared about Spike other than autistic faggots who self insert as him, in which case KYS

>>28491165
I liked it

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>>28491165
It remind me of What about Discord but with GLimmer instead Discord. Didn't expect Vogel to write shit like Dusedau. I guess theres no good writers left beside Confalone.

>>28499157
The only real cringe was Newbie Dash and Equestria games Spike episode.

>>28491165
Just watched it myself... It's not BAD, but it's not good. It has great moments, but the story really sucks. Chillaxing is not a fuckin friendship lesson. It really trivializes friendship lessons of previous seasons when laughing about mixing flour is equal to lessons that took whole episodes to learn.

>>28499803
Seriously though, how DOES her hair move?

>>28492271
> Why is there at least one disgusting face in nearly every one of the new MLP episodes?
Serious answer: Early on, the ponies used to emote a lot with their bodies. Not just floppy ears and downcast heads (though that was a lot of it) but a lot of subtle stuff like backing up a step or subtly shifting their heads up and down to signal whether they were okay with something or not.

They don't do a lot of that anymore. Since body language is an important part of communication, though, they have to signal on-screen emotions somehow. Lacking whole-body language, it just gets focused on the face; they have to go exaggerated to make sure the point is easily understandable.

Look at >>28491165 and >>28492448 . Angry moments are exactly when the ears should be pinned back; it's the number-one way to spot a pissed-off horse. But they don't bother with that anymore, so instead we get ultra-strong facial expressions instead.

>>28499640
This was not a good show.

>>28499996
In short, animators are trying too hard making pony into four legged human.

>>28499996

you're so full of shit. the body language has improved considerably since season 1 and it's been way more consistent scene-to-scene since season 5.

>>28491352
anything is a challenge to sit through for you, faggot

This episode felt like a combination of The Ticket Master and Lesson Zero

>glimmerfags: 10/10
>everybody else: 2/10

>>28500142
>implying
http://www.strawpoll.me/11292217/r

It got high marks because it felt like an episode from an earlier season.

>>28499821
>Didn't expect an actual Hasbro executive, and faggot, to write shit.

>>28500147
k glimmerfag

>>28500147
>It got high marks because it felt like an episode from an earlier season.
You best leave this board.

>>28500147
>felt like an episode from an earlier season
what does that even mean?
how fucking vague and dismissive can you even get you pustulated turd

>>28500147
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11292217/r
>>28500419
>>28500430
>>28500477
Average is 7.4 btw
(I gave it a 9)

>>28499803
You seem mad, Jim.

>>28500147
>It got high marks because it felt like an episode from an earlier season.
Yeah... season 03

>>28491165
No, it was not.

Yet in less than a month, Starlight Glimmer is going to be the newest alicorn. The seventh, if you count Sci-Twi from Legend of Everfree (still no wings for Sunset, everyone else is getting them like candy including a newborn foal).

>>28500742

isn't flurry heart technically already a princess because she was born into married royalty, though?

>>28500749
There's like two-tiers of royalty for ponykind though.

There's the title that's basically a formality, like Princes Blueblood and Shining Armor, and then there's "Princess" which signifies essentially a goddess. Flurry Heart would've been the former, but she was born an alicorn so she's immediately the latter.

>>28500799
Shining Armor is a prince-consort. Blueblood is from the line of King Bullion.

>>28500811
Still basically the same thing, their titles really mean nothing. It's only the alicorns that really have any power.

>>28500799
>There's the title that's basically a formality, like Princes Blueblood and Shining Armor

'shining armor' is a title! who knew!
but other than that, this doesn't discredit anything. maybe princes don't get sick ass alicorn powers and only princesses do and they can become princesses through either merit or birth.

>>28500703
The medium is about 8.5. It was a great episode.

>>28491477
Honestly, that's the part of the episode that I think kept it from being good. We know Starlight has a lot of magical power and we know she's still getting her head around the idea of what it means to be a good pony. Those things can be accepted. And I get why Twilight, since she's trying to be a mentor to Starlight, chose to take a gentler approach when correcting her, especially after the events of No Second Prances. But the main five going from bitter and in pain to happy and accepting at the drop of a hat didn't feel right at all. Starlight should have done something to make it up to them first. Maybe casting a simple spell- with their permission- to relieve the aftereffects of the mind control. That would make it easier for them to let go of what happened, as well as showing a way for Starlight's magic lessons to help her friends without controlling them.

>>28501344
I'll disagree with the magical power not being a problem, but what you outline has really Starlight's issue from the beginning: She turns her opinions on a dime and everyone just accepts that she's genuinely honest and immediately treats her like nothing prior to that ever happened.
> Our town ponies forgive her for stealing their talents and lives
> M6 forgive her for fucking with them in the S5 opener
> Twilight forgives her for breaking into the castle and potentially plunging Equestria into any number of dystopias
> M6 forgive her again for mind controlling them
It's like nobody actually recognizes what she is doing. Not even that they don't take it seriously - they seem to forget in a minute that she even did it at all.

Frankly, it's alarmingly similar to domestic/family abuse scenarios.

>>28500147
I don't see it. Buck Ball Season had that feeling for sure, but this episode had way too many hallmarks of the current show (mostly the bad parts of it) to feel like something older. Fancy animation, references every two seconds, characters getting forgiven too easily, magic doing multiple spectacular feats in short order without exhausting the user, and lots of continuity with earlier stories.

Honestly, this is one of the first times the show's tendency to reference things has bothered me. Normally I consider it a bonus. In this case it felt like the main five spent so much time making shout-outs to other works that they didn't get much of a chance to show their own personalities at all, and the story suffered for it.

>>28501430
On the subject of magic, I think Starlight avoids being made a Mary Sue by her abilities because the show clearly demonstrate how all that power doesn't make her a better person. Nobody would say that Doctor Manhattan from Watchmen is too perfect a character because much like Starlight, the fact that he can make anything he wants happen only serves to make him more distant and less understanding toward normal people. The Sue tendencies show up, as you've mentioned, in how the consequences of her actions are never really bad for her. While I could justify Twilight's choice to watch over Starlight directly rather than letting her go or locking her up as a reasonable one- how would she imprison someone that dangerous anyway?- I can't explain away the instant acceptance she's been receiving even from ponies far less invested in her recovery. I think that's part of why all the comparisons to Sunset Shimmer, another villain turned hero who did have to prove she'd changed, are springing up.

>>28501547
You're right about Doctor Manhattan. I'm not sure if that applies to Starlight, though. A closer analogy in FiM might actually be Sombra: For all the criticisms leveled at his appearances, nobody ever questions how he got his power. It's not relevant to the plot in the same way that Doctor Manhattan's source of power isn't relevant to the plot.

I think what bugs me about Starlight's power level is that early on, unicorn character power was related to one of two kinds of effort: Study, or friends. Twilight studied, so she was powerful; she became more when joined with the rest of the Elements, though. Trixie seemed powerful, but it turned out to be a charade. She was later shown to gain power using an outside artifact, which came with its own clear and distinct downsides. All of Twilight's friends who went to school with her seemed good at magic from study, but not as good as Twilight. Sunset Shimmer, if we want to include her, also stole power from an outside artifact (once again with clear and distinct downsides). Later, he gained real friendship and the power associated with that.

Starlight Glimmer has none of that. She doesn't appear to ever have studied anywhere, and certainly didn't have friends to back her up (whether she does now is an arguable point). Yet, she displayed power on par with some of the most magically-potent characters seen so far, without any of the effort. Hell, she's done things the series previously told us were outright impossible.

I know I tend to care about lore and continuity holding together more than other viewers might, but this kind of thing really bugs me. The 'rules' of a series help guide our expectations of it; they set frames of reference for what characters can aim for and achieve, and when to be surprised or saddened when they do or do not go beyond those limits. Starlight Glimmer obeys none of that, though.

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>>28500147
>it felt like an episode from an earlier season
that's completely wrong, it had new mlp written all over it

>>28501344
This is a really good idea tbqh.

This man should be working on the show.

>>28491165
Just watched it an hour or two ago and I liked it. Eh not the best around for sure, but it made me laugh occasionally and once again Spike had some really good interaction with Starlight.

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>>28501344
honestly I have way more problems with the ep but you are right that the forgiveness part was the worst stinker

My favorite scene in the whole ep is pic related because it shows how they should have approached the forgiveness part with the other 4

>>28491165
It was meh. AJ was pretty cool though, and I liked the hungover pones. Also, the episode pretty much confirmed six years passed in canon since the beginning.

>>28502030
I see it this way.

Beyond basic spells like telekinesis, all unicorns have their range of abilities restricted by their cutie marks. That gives us characters like Rarity, Trixie, Sugar Belle, and so on. These unicorns can perform amazing feats relating to their talent, or their magic can be fairly weak overall. This is what Twilight and Trixie were referring to when they mentioned "high level" unicorns in Magic Duel. A unicorn's level of magical power affects how far their magic can go within their area of specialization.

Then there are the few who win the lottery- high level unicorns whose talent is magic itself. These are ponies like Twilight, Starlight, and Sunset, who have both the natural aptitude and the sheer magical potency to master nearly any spell. I'm willing to bet that Starlight is the highest level unicorn we've ever seen. On top of that, she shares Twilight's ability to learn spells quickly. This makes her pretty much overpowered. I have, however, noted a few differences.

So long as it's within her power to cast, all Twilight needs to learn a spell is to see it being used. Even if her magic is slightly less than Starlight's, her mind is far stronger. Starlight, on the other hand, has to read about a spell or be taught it before she can use it. All her "original" creations are modifications or mixtures of existing concepts. After Testing Testing 1 2 3, Twilight is probably very good at working out how to teach her, hence the dozens of crazy magical tricks she did in the opening scene. She also has the issue of not being the best at controlling her power. She cast a huge shockwave with a simple shield spell and Twilight said her mind control combo spell was a convoluted mess. In short, she's Twilight with even more power and minus the restraint or understanding. Small wonder she turned evil.

>>28501182
*median.

And the plurality of people on /mlp/ gave this episode 9/10.

>>28502104
Well, I'm unemployed, so go ahead and send that recommendation to DHX.

Seriously though, a lot of what's keeping Starlight from being the absolute best thing about S6 is how the show seems intent on reminding us of her past but doesn't want to make it seem like her life now is any worse as a result of what she did. MLP's writers need to remember that kids can handle a little conflict and uncertainty, and letting Twilight and the others express some fear of Starlight wouldn't completely invalidate them as protagonists, or her as a reformed pony. It would just make the storytelling more believable by acknowledging that giving someone a second chance isn't always easy. They didn't shy away from the consequences of Sunset and Discord's actions. Starlight doesn't need a get out of jail free card either.

>>28502122
Pinkie Pie is CUTE. CUTE!

CUTE, I say!

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>>28492489
They tried to warn us years ago, but it seems the prophecy was fulfilled anyway.

7/10, the forgiveness was too quick/should've handled like Pinkie's, but I had fun otherwise.

At least Glimmer isn't being forgiven as easily as Twilight has in the past. I was worried about her getting off too easy as well but at least she got royally chewed out by Twilight and at least the rest of the ponies were a bit snipish towards her.

It was a good episode, I didn't care for Glimmer at first but it is interesting to see what new challenges her character will face as the season goes on.

I don't really get how anybody can flat out hate any episode of the show, sure some have been worse than others but I wouldn't trade a single second of any episode.

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>>28492489

>>28503412
>her character
What character?

>>28499760
Yeah and it was obnoxious and I'm glad they've been exposed as do-nothing vaginas

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>>28492489

>>28503565
But this is so much more boring

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>>28492489

>>28500147
So did Applejack's Day Off, what's your point?