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September's episodes have been fully revealed. Anything you are looking forward to?
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>>28109910
ya mum
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>>28109910
these all sound like shit
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>>28109910
So the Flurry Heart title list list was fake.
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>>28109910
Hyped for Flim and Flam. They reformed DT so do you think they will reform Flim and Flam?

I like the Starlight one, glad we're getting more of her but this episode sounds like it could easily be bad. I hope they handle it well

Why is Twilight teaching Starlight magic? They seem equal in power.
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>>28109910

This is seriously the best they can come up with?

Maybe I should just go back to being a S1/2 purist. This shit ain't worth the time.
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not that bad except first one
glimglam hype
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>>28109946
Depends. And Starlight probably is trying to learn stuff that you can only get in books.
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>>28109910
Maybe the people who say "There hasn't been THAT much glimmer this season!" will SHUT THE FUCK UP now that we have yet ANOTHER starlight episode?

The premier, 3 starlight glimmer episodes, and almost certainly the finale too.

This season is the fucking starlight glimmer season.
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>>28109968
Yeah. She seemed to only learn what she needs.
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>>28109980
yes
What did you even expect after s5?
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>>28109985
I expected shit, but I was HOPING they'd avoid crashing the show into the ground with more starlight shitter.

Unfortunately, it would appear I was wrong.
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>>28109910
>Every Little Thing She Does (is magic)

Nice. I look forward to that episode.

Also, confirms that To Where and Back Again is the finale.
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>>28109946
>Why is Twilight teaching Starlight magic?

where do you get that twilight is teaching starlight magic and they're not learning together?

>>28109942

i thought that was kind-of obvious, i mean one list had all sorts of references (star trek, dungeons and dragons, tolkien, movies, etc) and the other had shit like 'caving in' and 'spell it out'.
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>>28110004
Huh. I guess that could work. But I just thought Twily was teaching her the magic since Starlight is the student. That's what I infered from the wording of the post.
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>>28110002
>>28109980
Starlight is at least interesting. Beats another fucking Applejack episode.
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How long until the Nyx episode?
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>>28110004
The Flurry Heart one was a reference.
"Flurry Heart of the Swarm" obvious reference
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>>28110034
Starlight is the Rodimus prime of My little pony
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>>28110044

tolkien > starcraft, relative.
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>>28110053
>Rodimus prime
Who?
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>Buckball
Could be good or bad. Character-centric episodes are always the wildest cards. If it's just a rehash of "Cart Before the Ponies" lesson of coaches getting more involved than the players, then shit. But, there is potential for some good character work here.

>Fault in our Cutie Marks
On the one hand, I really want them to end this shit with a lesson that griffons are just as capable as ponies without cutie marks. This whole business of "Pony goes to other species' territory, pony fixes shit because other species are apparently retarded" got old really fast, and I'd like to see it massively subverted. On the other hand, this could easily be the most retardedly hamfisted tolerance episode ever, which would make it just as bad as if they somehow twist the lore to give a griffon a cutie mark somehow.

>Viva Las Pegasus
Oh boy, another episode with stand-in American cities in Equestria. Oh boy, another Flim and Flam do evil shit... because they're evil! episode. Strong chance of being shit.

>Every little thing she does
Hey, it's a whole bunch of Applejack episodes, except with Glimmer instead of an actual character! Yeah, it's shit.

>>28109946
>They reformed DT so do you think they will reform Flim and Flam?
Flim and Flam have this weird thing going where they get progressively more villainous in each appearance. At first they were just industrialists who somehow got portrayed as villains, then they became actual con-men. Now it'll probably just get worse.
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>>28109910
>Anything you are looking forward to?
All of them
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>>28110060
That's disgusting Anon.
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>more starlight eps
no thanks
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>>28110076
>preferring star craft over based tolkien
Get out gook
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>>28110079
>Not liking the only dynamic character in the show right now
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>>28110092
Leave grandpa. Go enjoy your plot hole riddled books somewhere else.
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>>28110073
How would it twist the lore to give a griffon a cutie mark? You know she's going to end up with one.
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>>28110096
>liking a generic mary sue
wew lad
>>28110104
>plot hole riddled
(You)
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>>28109946
Because she knows a lot more spells
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>>28110066
Do you seriously not know who rodimus prime is?

Shitty character who nobody asked for and nobody liked who was brought in as a "Better" version of the show's mane character.

Everyone hated him, and basically wanted him to fuck right off until the show staff caved and brought optimus back and got rid of him.
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>Las Pegasus
Watch as the show writers defile the last ounce of this show's old-world charm with an eye watering array of tall buildings, neon lights, electric arcade machines, and many other thinly veiled modern conveniences.
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>>28110124

jesus i wish people didn't read like four pages of tvtropes and think they were experts on everything, see less of this 'mary sue' shit for sure
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>>28109910
>more pink shimmer

If the finale is about her it will solidify S6 as the worst season
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>>28110124
You really don't know what a Mary Sue is do you?
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>>28109910
>Glimmer episode is a refrence to The Police
Normally, I'd approve of this, but I think they've had enough damn references already.
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>>28110146
Huh? How are those things new?
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>>28110146

>Muh Autism can not handle, watching MUH HEADCANON being destroyed
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>>28109910
Looking forward to all of em, except Viva las Pegasus. I just have a bad feeling.
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>>28110156
>>28110169
t. waifufags
>she was bad but now she's good
>she's also extremely powerful like twilight and can manipulate time
Even if she isn't a mary sue due to your semantics she's a shit character that shouldn't even be there.
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>>28110146
>Watch as the show writers defile the last ounce of this show's old-world charm with an eye watering array of tall buildings
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>>28110136
>Got rid of
They never got rid of Rodimus. They sidelined him, but he was still present. That and the resurrection of prime lasted maybe a handful of episodes before G1 ended.
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>>28110169
She's not a mary sue, she's a villain sue! You're right!

>Horrible plot armor
>Able to do random shit "because reasons" with a magical handwave
>More powerful than the ALICORN PRINCESS OF MAGIC HERSELF

Yeah, she's a fucking villain sue with Star destroyer tier plot armor.
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>>28110146
Las Pegasus and Manehatten has been around since the start though?
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>>28109910

Wow, Fluttershy's being totally packed into the back half.

And is Twilight going to do ANYTHING this season? Nice to see another Starlight episode though.
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There's a lot of hate for these. Especially Las Pegasus and Starlights episode.
Starlight is the only character with a story right now and Flim & Flam are one of my favorite recurring antagonists following DT.
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>>28110117
>How would it twist the lore
Are you serious?
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>>28110185
>Even if she isn't a mary sue due to your semantics

a character having positive and/or powerful traits doesn't instantly make them a mary sue, you fucking moron.
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>>28109910
Really looking foward to Las pegasus and Glimmer ep
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>>28110185
Actually I naturally have some hate for Glim since I'm a Shimmerfag but I gave her a chance and she seems like a good character.
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>>28110196
>Princess of Magic
Princess of Friendship, with a magic cutie mark.
But yeah, otherwise you're spot on. Starlight is a boring sue.
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>>28110206
>she's not a mary sue so she isn't shit
>let me just ignore her bad writing and OP Plot Armor
I bet you also like EQG you fucking waifufag
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>>28110192

being sidelined into complete disuse is the same as getting rid of them, its called being put on a bus.
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>>28110196
>Horrible plot armor

what are you even trying to say?

>Able to do random shit "because reasons" with a magical handwave

this one i have to concede, it isn't like every third character uses fucking magic or anything. you're so dumb.

>More powerful than the ALICORN PRINCESS OF MAGIC HERSELF

she's the princess of friendship, stupid.
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>>28110196
Wow, your pretty dumb
>More powerful than the ALICORN PRINCESS OF MAGIC HERSELF
She isn't. Neither could beat the other and only because Glim had her scroll.
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>>28110220
>not liking EQG Waifus

Are you gay?
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>>28110206
She's more powerful than the main character because reasons. She's got a tragic back story. She has abilities the most legenapdary magic user in history never came close to. She can out cake a professional baker with a baking cutie mark. She is a sue through and through. Not even an interesting one.
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>>28110238
>liking EQG
I want newfags to leave already
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>>28110158
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its pretty obvious that the finale is going to be another Starlight glimmer Hour of power.
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>>28110258
>the worst season ends with the worst character in the spotlight
It's like pottery
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>>28110220

>OP plot armor

Do you really think they are going to kill off a villain in this show besides Sombra?
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>>28110249
She didn't beat Twilight you retard. When they had an actual magic fight, it was a tie. It would make sense since her cutie mark is also in magic.
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>>28110249
Twilight and Starlight are matched magical ability.
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>people love Sunset Shimmer
>people hate pink Shimmer

What gives?
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>>28109910
>Viva Las Pegasus
This better be good. We've already had two shit Applejack episode, so please help me...
I wonder if they'll put Oceans Eleven references in this episode?
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>>28110249

She didn't make a better cake, she just made a rushed one that looked good.
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>>28110229
>she's the princess of friendship, stupid.
Friendship is magic and she's the ELEMENT of magic.
her cutie marks on the goddamned tree of harmony itself.

>>28110229
>this one i have to concede, it isn't like every third character uses fucking magic or anything. you're so dumb.

Fucktard, there is a difference between being able to do magic or having a backstory to explain it, like sunset and twilight being trained by CELESTIA HERSELF, to being a unicorn who no one has ever seen or heard of who can do god tier magic because the plot says so.

She has no explanation for her to be able to do high tier magic, she just apparently sat out in the woods and became really good at it because haber wanted her to be that good.


Its like a hobo coming up and outfighting batman just "because he's good at it"
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>>28110249
>She's more powerful than the main character because reasons.

everyone's more powerful than twilight at something. jesus. it doesn't make you a mary sue to be better than the main character either. even if it's at their own game.

>She has abilities the most legenapdary magic user in history never came close to

she had access to a powerful map and a scroll from a library.
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>>28110224
But he literally got the same amount of screen time for the all of five episodes Optimus Prime was back to life and not a Quintesson Clone. I don't disagree that Rodimus was never popular, ypbut you are vastly over stating how he was "written out" or "replaced". You make it sound like he lasted a few episodes. He was there for almost all of the post movie continuity. Optimus returning to lead the Autobots was very very brief. And all but ignored by the sequel Japanese shows like Headmasters who still cast Rodimus as leader.
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>>28110278
It's just faustfags. They hate anything new no matter what and accuse any good character of being a Mary Sue even though they don't actually know what one is. Its best not to bother them. They can't adjust to change so dont bother.
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>>28110272
Not an argument
>>28110279
I'm hoping more for a Casino reference
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I don't know if that's exactly responsive, but I didn't want a freaky Friday to go by without making a waifu contribution to the study.
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>>28110284

Her talent is doing high tier magic just like Twily, that's why Twilight is teaching Starlight herself.
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>>28110299

Do you seriously expect the writers to kill off Starlight in a show like this?
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>>28109910
>another shoehorned character episode

Yay...
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>>28109910
>Every little things she does...
... is tragic! Tragic! Tragic!
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>>28109942
no fucking shit
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>>28110284
>Friendship is magic

so wait. why would the princess of friendship be better at offensive magic than crazy commie horse? or better yet, why are we assuming she's the best (or even high-tier?)

>b-but they didn't explain why she's good at magic! that's the exact definition of a mary sue!

maybe there's an episode down the road that does? we don't have her whole backstory.
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>>28110296
>if you hate glimmer you must be a faustfag
Kill yourself
>inb4 t. faustfag
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>>28110299
I bet my two bits Flim&Flam's hotel is casino hotel.
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I bet in the finale, Starlight is gonna be all, "MUH PAST", and have to learn to let go of the past, like Luna did.
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>>28110281
And tasted amazing according to Pinkie.
>>28110276
Which is why Twilight never figured out time travel. Or mind control. Or creating a means to remove cutie marks.
>>28110274
They fought to a standstill, Twilight was not only out performed and outclassed, but out flown and even out SMARTED. It was only after a desperate attempt to prove she was destroying everywpthi g that Starlight SURRENDERED.
Twilight didn't win.
Starlight conceded.
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>>28110278
Some fag keeps spamming the board with Glimmer threads. Now she's the face of autistic shitposting.
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>>28110330
Dude, has she had a SINGLE episode where she hasn't done that shit?

She's like fluttershy about shyness.
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>>28110332

Pinkie likes everything sweet, doesn't mean it was the greatest cake ever.
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Does starlight even have that many toys?

I'm legitimately wondering why the fuck they keep making all these episodes of her this season if she doesn't have a bunch of toys of her, why the fuck would hasbro be shilling her so much without a monetary reason?
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>>28110332
Twilight did mind control in S2 do you even watch the show?
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>>28110335
To be fair, it does keep getting brought up by others. Like Pinkie, and especially Spike.
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>>28109910
>The episode just before my birthday is a Starlight episode
I fucking hate my birthday.
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>>28110332
>Which is why Twilight never figured out time travel.

i think 'it's about time' you go and watch the show, lol jesus christ dude

>Or mind control. Or creating a means to remove cutie marks.

these are things that a student/princess of friendship would be motivated to learn how to do. you're one dense motherfucker, you know that?
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>>28110335
HWT
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>>28110339
Flimsy excuse. You know as well as I she's bullshit. I'd don't really care if she's ypour favourite wank. She's a badly written character who embodies the decline in show quality.
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>>28110346

Because they are running out of things to do with the current cast, so they are trying to add a new one to keep the show going on a bit more.
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>>28110323
some people say she's the best because of the cutiemark removal spell, but i disagree, mostly because purple sue princess can do everything starlight does plus a shitload of advanced spells. but yeah, starlight being as good as purple sue at fighting is not unreasonable since twilight doesn't practive combat at all
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>>28110202
Yeah. They've never explained how cutie mark magic really works.
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>>28110327
>casino
>in a children's show
Nah, it will be like a boardwalk think with prizes or an arcade or something.
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>>28110296
>The only people who hate Starlight are Faustfags, it's not that she's genuinely a shitty, forced character! And I love her because I want to fuck her so I think any other opinion doesn't matter!
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>>28110348
>Twilight did mind control in S2
It's S1, DYEWTS?
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>>28110356
Because what Snake Twilight did was REAL time travel with no restrictions eh?

So she couldn't foigure out these simolke tricks a self taught hobo could?
OK, makes sense.... Sure.
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>>28110362

She's fine, the season is better than S3 so far at least.
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>>28110332
>Twilight was not only out performed and outclassed, but out flown and even out SMARTED.
Dis you even watch the episode? It was a complete tie and Twilight said "we can keep going forever", something along those lines. She had to convince Starlight because it was a tie that would last forever.
You seriously need to learn what a Mary Sue is before posting faggot
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>>28110363
They just need to try and come up with shit for characters; fuck, they could do a shit ton of episodes for dash where she tries to emulate Daring do and try and be an adventurer.


Fuck, for that matter, they could just use the map to justify giving them more adventure episodes, those are a good way to pad the seasons. Gauntlet of fire was really well recieved after all.
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>>28110384
better than S3 and S4 for me it's pretty solid so far
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>>28110348
Which worked out so well for her as I recall. Not at all flawed and not her intention. Unlike Sueshine.
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>>28110388

>wanting more adventures than slice of life

kys bronyfag
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>>28110387
It wasn't a tie, it was what starlight WANTED. She programmed the spell to eternally drag twilight back in time with her.

Starlight didn't want to kill twilight, her plan was to eternally trap her in a time loop to torment here for eternity. The fact that Twilight couldn't break out wasn't a "Stalemate" it was literally what Starlight's plan WAS.
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>>28110398
>wanting more slice of life
kys waifufag
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>>28110384
Dude, that's like saying "Well its better than eating a diareah sandwhich!"

beating s3 is like bragging about kicking a parapalegic kid down the stairs in a "fight"
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>>28110400
cool headcanon. it's like glimmerfags actually WANT their waifu to be a sue
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>>28110278
Sunset Shimmer had a few mitigating factors.
>Apparently recognized for her magical capability, also went to the school for gifted unicorns
>Has an actual character flaw that causes her turn to darkness, rather than 'because muh friend didn't like me enough!'
>Doesn't randomly outperform the element of magic at magic, professional baker at baking, etc
>Shimmer's greatest feats are actually performed using the hijacked element of magic, an external source of power
>Not immediately accepted as cool and best buddies in the 3 minutes after being reformed

And perhaps most importantly, her return to being good is brought on by a magical rainbow beam. We can suspend our disbelief about magical rainbow beams making people good again, because it's the show's rules. Starlight Glimmer, however, has logical faults all over her turn to both "evil" and then "good" again.

Hell, if Shimmy was in the actual show and not some fucktarded high school setting that should never have been, she'd arguably have one of the best character arcs in the show (albeit sharing a bit too much of her themes with Luna).
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>>28110408

>wanting brony pandering "world building and adult action" instead of actual episodes about the characters

t.bronyfag
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>>28110387
>Its OK that this random no pony gains more magical aptitude than starswirl and can outclass an alicorn princess at her own game and battle her to eternalk standstill, that doesn't make her a sue.
Yeah, no.
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I want faustfags to leave.
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>>28110330
hey VG,

Could you stop spamming the same bullshit all over the internet?

Your autism won't make you more right.
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>>28110409

So it's still not a shit sandwich, and considering nothing else is out it's fine?
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>>28110369
>Every episode and piece of media up until this point: Only ponies have cutie marks
>Griffon suddenly gets a cutie mark
>This is okay because "they've never really explained how cutie mark magic works"
That's some logic there, alright. They don't have to produce a textbook on how cutie mark magic works to make it clear that it's a pony thing.
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>>28110410
Rewatch the episode dimwit.
The spell literally transported Sueshine to a few seconds before Twilight arrived. This guy >>28110400 is 100% right.
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>>28110426
Who is Zecora? No other species has learned the magic of friendship in the way that ponies and zebras do.
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>>28109910
>buckball
for how much longer these faggots are going to contaminate mlp with our world stuff... Cons, soapbox racing, and now this shit. I hope they will give us something creative, and not a shitty copy of human sports.
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>>28110400
>encase Twilight in a crystal block and let her fall to her death
>didn't want to kill her
Starlight tried everything in her power to kill her
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>>28110433
Please show me where Zecora earned a cutie mark.
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>>28110446
Holy fuck, do you even watch the show?
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>>28110430
Only to make sure the Sonic Rainboom didn't happen, rewatch the episode dimwit
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>>28110441
>Fall
"to her death" is head canon.
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>>28109946
She is teaching her magic of FRIENDSHIP. So basically, she does not teach her jack shit.
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>>28109910
instead of twilight I want this to happen
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>>28110421
Dude, when you're served piss you don't just say "its not shit" and keep eating, you get up and get out of the diner, after telling the chef how much he sucks.

So S6 not being as bad as S3 isn't an accomplishment, its still pretty much a good reason for people to stop watching or toys to stop selling.
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>>28110457
No, she stopped the rainboom but still kept fucking with the continuity in new ways. That's why the future kept changing. Did you even watch the episodes, Suefag?
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I'm calling it now, the end will be just like the end of RR where the mane 6 will be fighting the villain, realize they alone can't do it. Starlights gotta get over her issues, pick up the mic, and sing. I swear to fuck if Twilight says "Starlight, we need you!" I'm jumping off the ride.
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>>28110456

I think he means when Zecora got her cutie mark.
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>>28110473

It's not piss, it's just fine. I don't hate it enough to stop watching yet.
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>>28110479
Nah man. We're going Friendship games, not rainbow rocks.

The other 6 will be utterly impotent, Starlight will come in, do a giant speech and be cheered on by the other 6, and then turn into an alicorn god Being.
That's more in line with haber's style.
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>>28110479
we are on the bridge now anon. not the best idea
Besides, what are you going to inject yourself with?
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>>28110477
If she didn't come back to the Rainboom scene everytime Twilight teleported there, the damage would be instantly undone. She was trapped in her own retarded trap, that's why she's the least clever villain in the show.

>Suefag
I'm neither a Twilightfag nor a Glimmerfag
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>>28110483
Well fuck. All we know is Zebras can get one.
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>>28110483
When did Cherilee?
When did Big Mac?
When did Time Turner?
When did Vinyl Scratch?
We can fucking well SEE THAT ZECORA HAS A CUTIE MARK we don't need to know its origin.
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>>28110456
This literally tells me nothing about her past or anything on what she's done. It doesn't even say that's a cutie mark on her, and given that it's never been treated as such I'm hesitant to say that it's exactly identical to a pony cutie mark.

But, for the sake of the argument, let's say that it is exactly identical to a pony cutie mark. That extends cutie marks to Zebras, a near-pony species... and still leaves out everyone else. It still makes the jump to an entirely new species out of line with the world as we've seen it depicted so far.
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>>28110477
she kept fucking with the continuity because she programmed the spell to drag twilight back over and over again so she could KEEP defeating twilight and rubbing her nose in how impotent she was.

She wanted to make twilight feel powerless, that's why she didn't just stop it once and call it a day. She specifically says that the ONLY reason the spell keeps being resused and taking twilight back is because she programmed that into the spell.


Once she had enough fun doing this she could destroy the spell and end the loop at any time.
She was in full control the entire time because she wrote the spell and added contingencies to insure her perpetual success.
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>>28110508
It wasn't a trap for her. It was her PLAN, she wanted to see Twilight suffer. That's it.
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>>28110496
There is no way in hell shes gonna be an alicorn. An element, I'll be fine with though
>>28110500
I just gonna drink till my liver gives up
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>>28110514
Baby Alicorns

I LIKE HOW THEY EXPLAINED THAT

Face it dude, the griffin will get a cutie mark
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>>28110534
>There is no way in hell shes gonna be an alicorn. An element, I'll be fine with though

Its haber; he did that shit before with Sunset, he'll do it again with starlight.
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>>28110533
So she's an edgy stupid villain.
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>>28109910
What the hell is Hasbro is thinking? Reforming villains and friendship problems is got to STOP!

I wish Hasbro will NEVER EVER reform villains like Trixie, Discord, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, Flim and Fiam, and Starlight Glimmer. Except Glida and Sunset Shimmer.

Hasbro is going to hell!
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ITT: Autism
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>>28110514
Well then maybe we should wait to see the episode before judging it.
>>28110525
She wanted Twilight to feel the pain of losing friends over a cutie mark like her. That's exactly what she yelled at Twilight. She didn't know how fucked the future was becoming until Twilight dragged her through the last time.
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>>28110525
Yes, I agree. She totally had Twilight at her mercy. She had defeated her. It was only a last desperate attempt that solved the issue, that and Sue needing to tell us how her boyfriend going to school made her turn evil. What a fucking joke.
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>>28110551
Okay stop. I'm a Shimmerfag but she is not an alicorn.
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>>28110553
YES and a shitty Mary Sue to boot.
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Just because I like noting this kind of thing, if the following 3 pre-finale episodes pan out as we expect from comments at SDCC (namely their being a Rarity episode with lots of points of view, would fit the "PPOV" title and Twilight going to the Wonderbolt Academy, which im thinking will be a map episode with Dash) and the finale is indeed a Starlight episode, episode totals for each character where they starred or co-starred will be as follows

RARITY: 7

RAINBOW DASH: 5

APPLEJACK: 5


FLUTTERSHY: 3

PINKIE PIE: 3

TWILIGHT SPARKLE: 3

SPIKE: 3

STARLIGHT GLIMMER: 5
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>>28110559
/Thread
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Remember kids: If you want to be powerful at magic, you don't need to study under masters of it.

You just need to be a hobo and go live out in the country for a while and you'll magically become the most powerful Wizard in existence just by WANTING it!
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>>28110559
You're on 4chan.
In mlp no less.
You think we won't be arguing over stupid inconsequential shit...?
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>>28110563
If you go back to my original post, that's pretty much what I said: It could be good or bad, depending on how they run with it.
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>>28110598

>comparing magic to real life

It's time to stop.
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>>28110590
>STARLIGHT GLIMMER: 5

Starlight will also almost certainly have the finale revolve around her, so we can pretty confidently put that as a 7 not a five.
With the extra weight of it being two parters (You know, the episodes the crew put the most time and effort into rather than phoning in) for her episodes with the others as cameos.
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>>28110608
What part of his post referred to reality you dumb fuck?
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>>28110612

Im counting the two parters as single episodes.
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>>28110598
Just cause they didn't show her learning, doesn't mean shes a Mary Sue for knowing it. Some ponies are just born with a natural strong magic ability. Twilight wasnt. She couldn't even get into the school with out a rainboom. Ponys like Starlight and Sunset are born with a strong natural ability for magic. It comes natural to them. Twiggles had to study hard to get where she is.
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>>28110608
Dude, you still need logic for plots to work. You can't just excuse bad writing by saying "Fucking ignore how it makes no damned sense!"

There's something called suspension of disbelief: This isn't fucking spongebob, there IS some plot and logic to how things work.
You don't need The dark knight level explanation for stuff, but you DO still need basic logical groundwork.

Like how sunset is explained as being trained by Celestia for example.
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>>28110624
That's daft.
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>>28110590

the issue for Twilight and Fluttershy is that not only do they have few episodes, but they are getting almost no relevant supporting roles ether.
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>>28110624
Then you're wrong.

You can't just say "I'm ignoring this because its inconvenient". The Premier and finale are two episodes. Not one.

This is a question about screentime and focus; The two parters are DOUBLE the focus of a "normal" episode. Therefore its an outright lie to try and present them as a single episode to say she doesn't get more focus than others.
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>>28110642

Her backstory is being gifted and needing training to harness it, it's pretty easy to get.
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>>28110643

Two-parters are a single story that just happens to be longer than your average single episode story, why the hell would I count them as more than one?

It's like the ranking threads asking people to rank each part of the two-parter's seperately, it makes no sense.
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>>28110417
>I want faustfags to leave.
>that pic
the ironing
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>>28110653

I wasn't even trying to get into this Starlight debate, I was literally just posting some numbers because I wanted to.
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>>28110639
>Naturally stronger than the most gifted student celestial ever had, who also has a cutie mark and natural talent for magic, who was personally tutored by celestial and a school of magic for years and then went on to be an alicorn and the princess of friendship, a force thast directly makes your magic stronger
But it's OK that self taught hobopony is better at magic.
Yeah, makes sense.
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>>28110642
Ambition and passion can drive people to do great things. This probably pushes Starlight to teach herself magic. She probably only learned what she needed for her plans. She didn't study various schools like Twily and Sunny.
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>>28110639
Starlight couldn't lift books when she was a filly. Sunburst who's shit at magic, completely outclassed her.

The effect of the rainboom on the M6 shows twilight had massive natural magic ability as a filly, considering she went into some sort of avatar mode while Rarity just got dragged towards a rock
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>>28110669

>self taught

She was clearly receiving some kind of training before Starburst fucked off and she ran off to create a tumblr cult.
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>>28110659
What about ironing?
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>>28110678

No that was only in that brief Flash back in the S5 finale, when they go and show more Flashbacks it's pretty obvious Starlight had more natural talent from the very start, copying whatever Sunburst did but far more powerful.
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>>28110658
Let's say you had an eight parted about Applejack.
You'd give that the same weight as a single episode about say Trixie?

And you can't honestly see a flaw with that...?
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>>28110658
>Two-parters are a single story that just happens to be longer than your average single episode story, why the hell would I count them as more than one?


The question is about screentime and focus. That's why we're counting the number of episodes.

Trying to argue that Two episodes worth of screentime is somehow not more than 1 episode's worth of screentime is just plain moronic.

It doesn't matter that the "Plot" is a long overreaching plot, the fact is you're putting double the amount of time into focusing on and developing that character.
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>>28110690
Holy shit, I haven't noticed that. Makes me wonder if the writers even watch the fucking show
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>>28110690
But that's bullshit. If she was already more powerful than Sunburst as your head canon claims, she has no reason too turn evil. They'd both be noticed and both be sent to magic school. Stop talking such rot.
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>>28110714

She ran off to who knows where when Sunburst got his mark, the magic school probably never knew she existed.
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>>28110714
It depends probably on when your ability shows through. Sunbursts just happened before Starlights.
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Starlight's backstory is retarded, that's why this problem exists.

I mean, GODDAMNED, a boy moves away and you just make a cult? DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO WRITE LETTERS?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iVy5s2DB4o
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>>28110713

uhh that was the point, she didn't notice her own advantage over Sunburst, she just saw how much he KNEW about magic and when he got his cutie mark before her and had that magical surge she basically assumed he was a great magical talent.

Basically the point is her entire life's path was set about by a total misconception on her part.
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Can't we just agree that the show is shit now?

I want to clop in peace.
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>>28110713
I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that they don't these days.
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>>28110590
i'd be okay with that if she were an interesting character, though
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>>28110730
I really don't care about your personally justifications and head canon.

AS WRITTEN in THE SHOW she is a Mary sue who gets her powers totally inexplicably and to a far greater degree than any previous magical pony, even the main character. Even if you can't concede she's a Mary Sue, at least admit she is not well written and her abilities are not adequately explained canonically.
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>>28110759

THIS. Starlight's big issue is just that she's not a good character, not the number of episodes.


Like fuck, I'd be fine with 8 trixie episodes because she's at least entertaining.
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>>28110768
What if i admit it? Will you jerk off to the fact, that you won an internet argument?
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>>28110768

No.
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>>28110776
No, I just won't write you off as total fucking AUTIST and be glad we at least reached a consensus. Because if you honestly believe her backstory is well written and her competence for magic adequately explained...then I can just walk away knowing you are beyond help.
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>>28110772

She's pretty entertaining when she's with spike or making jokes about her past.
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>all these shit talks on my waifu
I wish i was born with thick skin
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Starlight better not be in the movie. i swear to god, if she's a mane character in the movie...
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>>28110798

>Calling other's autists over whether they like a little girl's character or not

Pretty much sums this board honestly.
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>>28110798
>Calling someone autistic on 4chan

wew lad
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>>28110748
That was actually pretty entertaining. Thanks for the link anon!
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>>28110811
Dont try to take the fucking high ground here, we're all wasting our lives on this Venezuelan Cuckoldry Network.
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>>28110124
>I don't like this character therefore she is a Mary Sue
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what I'm confused about is...
Do the staff not stay in tune with how the fandom views characters?

I mean, they gotta realize starlight isn't exactly a giant hit. I know its too late to fix it now, but seriously, I really hope they realize it before they make her a full fledged Seventh member of the elements of harmony.
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>>28110754
>struggles to lift a single book in the S5 flashback while sunburst could do pic related
>later shown in S6 in a flashback that took place BEFORE pic related that she was actually magically gifted

They literally retconned her being shit at magic as a filly
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>>28110811
>>28110827
>Everyone here is autistic
Everyone in these posts is projecting.
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>>28110837
So what's the problem then?
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>>28110849

Where do you think you are?
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>>28110841

Most of the brones don't hate her nearly as much as /mlp/ does.
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>>28110807
Take it from a Shimmerfag. We had to deal with a lot of shit but don't worry. It blows over eventually as the faustfags get tired and realize that no one cares about their opinion. Plus, all the glimmershitposting isn't helping her case. We saw the same thing with Shimmer but it will die off eventually and she will soon have her own little general like us. Just stay strong and don't bite the bait.
p.s. You got a good taste in waifus[/thread]
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>>28110850
Just looking for some honesty.
I'm willing to accept that ypou may have a fuckable Starlight, a tatoo of her, a long Novell where she meets a self insert that totally isn't you, that's all hunky fucking dory and you do what you want. But at LEAST don't try to tell me you honestly think she us well written character. Because that would be so fucking sad.
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>>28110838
>I don't know how to read arguments/the thread
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>>28110873

No one cares, just stop being autistic and caring about whether people like a light purple unicorn whose just a copy of a yellow one.
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>>28110865
I hope so, thanks bro.
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>>28110838
That's /mlp/ where no matter what, your opinion ia shit.
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>>28110865
How the fuck did I fail and succeed at that spoiler at the same time?
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>>28110865
>only faustfags hate shimmer and glimmer
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>>28110918
>Raraposter
It's 2016, get some new pics.
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Great, another discussion destroyed.

I am out.
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>>28110893
If the anon I was talking to didn't care, he had a weird way of expressing his apathy through action.
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>>28110929
Not an argument
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>>28110930
>This thread
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>>28110864
I see alot of hate of her on derpibooru too. there's a pretty common theme of antipathy around the web towards her.
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>>28110942
There are just so many better pics than Rarity. Why not use them?

Oh, and your opinions are shit. That's my argument
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>>28110957
>EQGfag keeps shitposting
like pottery
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>>28110877
>Waaaaahhhhhh this character is super powerful so that means she's a Mary sue
That's pretty much all I've seen this thread
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who cares. I haven't watched since season 2 anyway. ^:)
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>>28110986
What do you expect from faustfags?
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>>28110982
Normally, I'd keep shitposting but I gotta give you some respect for a good picture. I like the reference
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>>28110990
See
>>28110918
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>>28111004

Nice try faustfag
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>>28110990
>only faustfags hate glimmer
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>>28109910
>Buckball Season
Sounds like a pretty weird one, could be fun in an absurd way. I imagine Fluttershy's success will be based on accidental wins.

>Fault in Our Cutie Marks
This is pretty odd. CMC episode, but the griffon could be a good shakeup that makes things interesting. Not sure how I feel about griffons potentially getting cutie marks though, unless the CMC butt-magic has something to do with it, and they can spread the magic of cutie marks into the griffon race. Alternatively, it could be a good lesson to have the griffon figure out her life purpose without needing a mark for validation.

>Viva Las Pegasus
Flim/Flam and a resort... I smell a casino. They probably cheat their customers big time, and somehow AJ and Fluttershy will make them run things more fairly while still generating them business. No doubt the brothers will still be kind of cunty, but they will learn that you can be successful without being cheats.

>Every Little Thing She Does
This one might be a little annoying, but Starlight can be pretty entertaining, and she is a bit of a try-hard to goes over the top on everything. I mean, she took rejection with her cutie mark to the level of starting a communist village, and took the shut-down of her philosophy with a plot to ruin a bunch of peoples' lives and the time continuum. It's definitely in her character to try too hard to impress, kind of like her own personal Lesson Zero.

Well, I'm optimistic.
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>>28111004
I'm still right.
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>>28111028
Finally a good post
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>>28111021
Faust never even accepted the ponies were anthropomorphic. Despite the fact they all lived like humans, acted lime humans and spoke like humans. But HUGGING? That triggered the dumb bitch. Faust wasn't even half as instrumental in the creation of mlp as some claim. That said, Starlight Glimmer is a horribly written character at best and a sue at worst. Shimmer would have worked better if she wasn't stuck in EQG
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>>28111028
But Anon. Being optimistic is not allowed here.
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>>28110296
>>28110865
>>28110990
>>28110296
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>>28111041

Glimmer and Shimmer are the exact same character.
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The first one sounds so fucking genetic and lame. Jesus fucking christ, if I would have seen a discription like that when I first started watching the show, I probably would have never started.
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>>28111041
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>>28111051
Nah, atleast glimmer was a better villain
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>>28111051
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>>28111077

>better villain

Shimmer didn't even have a real plan beyond sending a bunch of teenagers into the pone world. Glimmer was at least crazy from the start.
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You know what, fuck this place. You guys will still defend glimmer for whatever strawman reason.

Have fun eating shit.
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>>28111051
Yes, there are similarities. But overall, Shimmer has a few aspects of her back story that make more sense. Even her turning good makes more sense. Her motivation for turning evil certainly makes more sense than being too retarded to write letters so suddenly a communist village.
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>>28111028
Yeah, these look pretty good.
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>>28111088

See ya bronyfag.
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>>28111088
reeee
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>>28111041
Yeah, it's not like they ever hugged in the first season or anything
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>>28110988
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>>28111096
t. waifufag
Glimmer is shit and will continue to be a shit character
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>>28111088
Most of /mlp/ hates glimmer you Retard. She just has a small number if defenders.

How can anyone be this dense
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>>28111055
It sounds kind of comfy to me. The kind of story that really sets up to define their world.
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>>28111082
And better written than Anti-Twilight, which let's face it is all Starlight was ever meant to be. A metaphor for how Twilight COULD have been, a throwaway nothing that they somehow thought was good enough to be a character.
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>>28111111
>fan of the fandom
wasted
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>>28111111
>namefag wasting digits on a shitpost
DELEEEEET THIIIIIIIIIIS
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>>28111115
>she has a small number of defenders

pic or didn't happen.
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>>28111112

t.eqdfag
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>>28111109
Which the dumb bitch Faust was against. Vehemently.
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>>28111111
>those digits
More proof that the show peaked with S2
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>>28111120

I've been here since 2011, bubbles, and I've been through a lot of dogshit episodes. An old-fag can only take so much before he bows out.

>>28111111

Mine numbers!
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Glimmer is literal shit and should be publicly executed and mocked by all of the other ponies
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>>28111089
Glimmers plan was more well thought out but Shimmer had a better back story and had to actually face consequences and shame whereas Glimmer got to be the student of the leader of the free world and instantly reformed after a 30 second song. Shimmers had to be purged with the friendship beam like Luna
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>>28111129
>t.eqdfag
That doesn't even make sense you butthurt brony. If you want a better hugbox >>>/ponychan/ might be more of your speed.
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>>28111111
Hexes confirm. S2bros have it right.
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>>28111139
>An old-fag can only take so much before he bows out.
This. Just look at all applefags
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>>28111147
>Babyrage
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>>28111147

t.derpiboorufag
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>>28111118
Going to be honest.

I get the impression that Larson thought Starlight up as a one off villain, Haber, being the talentless hack he is, was like "DUDE! I gotta steal her for my finale, writer her just running off evilly!" and Larson was like "whatever, fuck it, I'm leaving anyways" and left starlight to haber to do whatever the fuck he wantd.


So we basically got Starlight because haber is uncreative and can't come up with a creative theme for a season if his life depended on it.
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>>28111147
Signed Equestria Daily Fag
How can you not grasp what t.eqdfag means...?
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>>28111163
>babyrage
>not babbyrage
>imgur filename
Lurk more
>>28111169
>if you hate glimmer you must be a eqdfag/faustfag
You faggots will keep grasping at straws no matter what
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>>28111188

t.murrisonposter
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>>28111167
I agree totally.

The who!e theme of the communist village ruled by a dictator forcing harmony without individuality was meant as a metaphor for how the magic of friendship and a ruler who was blind to anything but forcing harmony at all costs could create a dystopia. She was thematically just an anti Twilight. Even her colour scheme is inverted twilight, not to mention the obvious name similarity.
She was clearly never meant to be anything but a one shot, no more interesting or thought out than generic snow boarder pony or balloon pony.
She's just terrible.
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>>28111194
Shut up you faggot. We want no discussion here.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>episode discussion turns into anti-glimmer vs glimmerfag war

Why do I even still come to discussion threads anymore?
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>>28111194
It does make perfect sense, I'm sorry.
You can compare characters from totally different franchises and it still make sense, don't be autistic.
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>>28111223
>Calls someone autistic on 4chan

wew lad
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>>28111233
>Everyone here is as autistic as me
No, that's called projecting.
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>>28111244

>Everyone here isn't autistic

Do you realize which board you are posting on?
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>>28111244
It's an anon board.

Everyone here is equally autistic. ^:)
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>>28111221
For the laughs. Just grab a beer and sit back. It's entertaining when there isnt anything good on TV.
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>>28111221
>War

Dude, this isn't war, this is like calling 10 people holed up with guns around town vs. the army a war.

Glimmerfags are absolutely a tiny minority, you can't have a "war" in that scenario.
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>>28111250
Do you realize you're still projecting?

Everyone who enjoys this cartoon isn't instantly some half crazed pedophile who has a flesh light embedded in a plushie.
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>>28111261
>Glimmerfags are a minority

Reminds me when faggots said, that twilicorn fags where a minority, in 2013
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>>28111266

Do you think this is reddit or something? What the fuck are you doing here?
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>>28111275
They were. It's only tolerated now because of autism
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>>28111266
Who says that you aren't?
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>>28111266

>being an autist in denial.
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>>28111252
I'm comparing a well written comparable character to a badly written comparable character. It'd be like, for instance, drawing a comparison between two lead males in action movies. Yes, they aren't I. the same moibvue, but they share enough thematic similarities to draw a comparison.

I really hope you can grasp that.
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>>28111275
but that's what it is. look at this thread.
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I love you /mlp/
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>>28111284
>i know that, because everyone has autism

Can you also tell me, how big my dick is?
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>>28109910
>The Fault in Our Cutie Marks
>inbound cutie gryphon uh
>chick? cub?
Whatever I want it
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>>28111252
Equestria Girls is part of FiM, you dumbass nigger
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>>28111291

>Sunset
>Anything in EQG
>Well written
>>
>still no celestia episode

I'm beyond mad
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>>28111300
13 inches and you make 300k as a chef at wendys
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>>28111307
>your opinion
>not shit
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>>28111307
In comparison to Starlight?
EQG is like fucking Shakespeare.
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>>28111111
plebbitor get
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>>28111208
I sorta disagree with this. I think she actually would have made a great arch-nemesis. The Joker to Twilights Batman, so to speak
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>>28111320

>Magic exists in the human world for no reason
>Twily can just summon the elements whenever she wants
>Sunset's entire plan is to invade Equestria with Teenagers

>>28111322

They are both horribly written.
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>>28111312
Yeah, I was really hoping for the Every Little Thing title to do with Celestia and Luna.
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>>28111320
>EQG
>well written
Explain since you think EQG is the citizen kane of pone
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>>28111322

>no hooves
>Ever
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>>28111332
>Shimmer and Glimmer aren't exceptionally similar characters
I'm dealing with a moron I see.
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>>28111346
>inb4 tumblr frog pic
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>>28111339
Silly anon! We can't have celestia, we have cram more of the shitty character that nobody asked for down everyone's throats!


I mean, 7 episodes this season? That's almost too little for starlight! That's only 2 more than Rarity or rainbow dash, and only more than twice as many as fluttershy!
she surely deserves MORE episodes!
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never change /mlp/
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>>28111111
wow, this place has really gone to shit
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>>28111336
No, I don't think a lo g running feud like that would have been interesting. Though I guess it would have been better than being stuck with someone's fan fiction.net character as the seventh...
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>>28111266

How do people find it hard to have a semi-normal life and have a body pillow to go home to at night? It's like people don't know how to either fake it or can't handle keeping their bedroom choices to themselves.
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>>28111338
Magic exists in the human world because Sunset unleashed it with the crown
Twilight summons the elements because the crown affected her and the mane six since they are the elements of harmony
Sunset invades Equestria with an army of teenagers and the human versions of Celestia and Luna, who would all become ponies under her direct control; they would immediately incapacitate the leadership of Equestria and the M5 upon exiting the portal and undoubtedly take the Crystal Empire with little resistance since they invade from its very center and the guards have been proven to be fucking worthless.
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>>28111356
I want rainbow dash to come all over my face with her mare cum.
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>>28111373
Most people have other people to go home to. Not a teddy bear. Unless they are a toddler.
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>>28111366
maybe she'll kill herself at the end of the season to save the day and turn into a star or something corny
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>>28111391
Maybe, but unlikely based on how the last three have treated magic
It always comes from Equestria
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>>28111376

>Magic exists because of a crown, yet no one questions magic suddenly existing and the main cast all suddenly become experts at horse magic
>No one questions the main six turning into human horses
>Human teens are somehow just as strong as their Equestrian counterparts despite never having used magic before
>They somehow would be able to topple an entire army with no weapons or armor at all
>Sunset is forgiven for this just for feeling bad about losing

Where is this supposed to be good writing?
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>>28111366

>DB uploads in the last 30 days
AJ: 1586
Sunset: 705
Derpy: 477
Glimmer: 405

No one cares about her and they keep shoehorning her hard
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>>28111391
>If the new villian isn't from Equestria

I think we can safely assume she is from equestria based on the "booted from equestria" line in the trailer.
I know its dash speculating, but that seems like their way of explaining it in the trailer without giving too much away for gloriosa and timber's backstory. (it'll probably be explained more thoroughly in the movie at some point)
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>>28111406
I figured it was sort of a joke in the first movie, how everybody's chill with magic, but a talking dog blows their minds, and then they just sort of kept that thread going.
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>>28111412
>Glimmer: 405
>Nobody cares

Do you literally suck dicks?
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>>28111412
Haber cares about her...
>>28111418
So the human world is Equestria's version of australia?
Fuck, the ponies are assholes. I mean, we usually frown upon kicking dangerous criminals into other nations borders to get rid of them.
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>>28111406
>EQG is pretty shit
>Starlight is MUCH MUCH WORSE
How is this a hard concept for you...?
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>>28111422

>This is the writing eqgfags claim is so great.
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>>28111425

Yes, because i am actually gay. Problem?
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>>28111427

They're both bottom of the barrel shit and the show and this board would be better without them.
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>>28111428
I didn't say it was great, but it sort of explains the reason they did it. An awful lot of the sequels seem to be about finding ways to explain the stupid and inconsistent things they introduced in the first film.
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>>28111428
You are really triggered, calm down kid. Its nothing personnel.
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>>28111448

Literally damage control the series.

>>28111451

t.ponychan
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>>28111451
*unleash katana*
*teleports behind you*
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>>28111442
Honestly, whilst EqG has become its own thing, Anti Twilight still feels shit no matter how much she's forced into the show.
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>>28111469

At least glimmerfags are only small annoyances.
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>>28111469
They seem to be treating her kind of like the Nightmare Moon entity was treated in the comics. They had it be an actual sentient dark energy that latches onto you and eats away at you until it can take over and transform you.
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>>28111469
Ironically, while I think Friendship games is one of the worst things this series has yet, Legend of everfree is actually pretty presented really well in the trailers and clips we've gotten so far.
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>>28111406
Magic exists because the crown acts differently in alternate worlds, explained by Sunset and nobody knows shit about magic; the only one to even figure out how it works is Sunset and it took her half of RR and the whole of FG to do so

Everyone was brainwashed and people do discuss the magic shit in the last movie: Everyone clearly remembers the events of the first movie and gives Sunset shit over it and Luna understands that Sunset is a pony and asks her to keep magic away from the games

The elements have always been insta-kill one shot shit every single time they were used

They have two alicorns and three demons on their side not to mention that they would have loads of the other three races. Sombra fucked the Crystal Empire by himself, an entire army could easily do so.

Sunset was not forgiven; Twilight said she had to learn about friendship and earn forgiveness, but who cares about facts when you shitters just want to spew memes?
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>>28111474
Indeed. But if you don't like Shimmer, you just don't watch EqG. If you don't like Glimmer, well stone cold fuck you, better quit the show.
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>>28111482
By "anti-twilight" I think he meant starlight.
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>>28111482
Except FG was the best one you shit taste faggot
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I like Starlight.

I don't see why people are taking such contention with her redemption. Honestly, when has ANY redemption in this show been written well?

I just like her for her voice, strength of will and her overall design.
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>>28111482
>>28111488
When I referred to "Anti Twilight" I meant Starlight.
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>>28111506
meant for >>28111488
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>>28111489

>The crown just works because it does

Jesus christ why do eqgfags even pretend their series has good writing, the only decent thing it is waifus.
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>>28111111
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>this entire thread

I'm going to watch ponies and have fun.
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>>28111506

>Filler the movie
>The best one
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>>28111513
You forgot to write (trigger warning)
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>>28111517
Ah, she's more like Twilight 2.0

I mean, talent is magic, overreacts to shit, is the student of a princess studying friendship magic, is almost purple. It's like they said "how do we bring back unicorn Twilight without getting rid of alicorn Twilight," and then shat out Starlight.
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>>28111521
>hurr durr it's so inconceivable that a portal that transforms ponies into humans can also change magic artifacts too
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>>28111535
my nigga
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>>28111513
She's literally a inverted colour swap of Twilight. Her name is pretty much a pale reflection of twilight, almost literally. Her entire plot before she got needleslly turned into a big deal was just "don't turn into this asshole when trying to make everyone friends, Twilight."
She was a lesson, a parable, a mirror. Just a one shot character. The fact she's now a part of the mane seven, its just a symbol for everything wrong with the writing of the show as a whole.
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>>28111547

>Hurr Durr a crown can somehow make an entire dimension filled with horse magic and make everyone suddenly not question it

kys eqdfag there is nothing good about your series beyond waifus.
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>>28109910
>Applejack and Flim and Flam THE THIRD TIME
Fucking SHITHELLASSFIRETHOSEWRITERSPISS HOWHARDISITTODOAPROPERAJEPISODE?!
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>>28111538
>filler in a western slice of life pony cartoon show
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>>28111556
>>28111513

See? I told you to write (trigger warning)
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>>28111562

>watching an entire movie that's just pointless filler until the last ten minutes
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>>28111545
Yeah, that's what she became after the "writers" decided that was a good idea.
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>>28111559
Don't worry. They're only going to redeem their characters. Can't have villains just... existing in Equestria. They're all good people deep down if the writers say so.
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>>28111558
Doesn't sound much sillier than an entire race born with magic foreheads.
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>>28111558
>I cannot read please rape my face
I literally explained how they reacted to magic in my post
Should've figured you faggots lack the brainpower required for basic cognitive functions
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>>28111581

Still a better reason then "it just works because we say so".
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>>28111570
>shitposting
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>>28111559
Could you keep it down. We're trying to discuss Starlight vs. EQG.
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>>28111589

>EQG
>Requiring any brainpower at all

Every movie is just filler until the last minute when Twilight or Sunset pull some mary sue gimmick out of their ass and save everyone last minute, and then you eqgfags claim it's somehow better writing then the whole show.
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>>28111591
How do baby Alicorns work again?
Or the elements?
Or discord?
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>>28111591
Magic in the entire show is just a non-stop "it's happening because we say so" fest. Aside from levitation and teleporting, every spell just fills a writer void so they don't have to explain something.
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>>28111602

>defending EQG
>Not a meme
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>>28111261
Nigga please.

They're both minorities, it's just anti-glimmerfags feel the need to scream all the time and act they're a bigger deal then they really are. Very easy to trigger too, just breathe a word that sounds like "Starlight Glimmer" and watch them chimp out, and god forbid you disagree with them.

They're basically the tumblr of /mlp/
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>>28111617
>Imply levitation and teleporting aren't also used as plot devices too
Really?
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>>28111616
>>28111617

Equestria is a land that already has magic, but somehow a crown from Equestria changes turns the entire Earth into a new Equestria just to justify waifus being half-horse.
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>>28111051
Shimmer is better because at least she feels regret and faces consequences, and isn't just "lol I just was mean because muh friend it was justified". And at least Shimmer recognizes the Mane 6 as friends too, instead of how Starlight can't hang out with anyone other than Twilight. It makes her stick out more like a shitty Sue.
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>>28111629
Because it went threw a fucking portal that turns poners into monkeys and dragons into dogs you fuckwit
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>>28111643

>It's ok to have a shitty plot device if it justifies horse-human waifus

kys eqdfag.
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>>28111629
But how do Baby Alicorns work?
The answer was, "I don't know." Delivered by Celestia.

How do elements work? Oh yeah, a random magic tree happened.

And Discord? How does he work? Oh right, he just does.
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>>28111643
Why couldn't Sunset just adopt a shit ton of dogs and walk through the portal?
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>>28111629
I mean, did you miss the part where the horse crown shot magic up their assholes? It seemed pretty obvious that they absorbed magic from the crown when that happened. Scilight has a bit of bonus magic by absorbing portal magic as well.
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>>28111556
I'm hoping that haber leaves after this season.

Normally they have the head writer write the EQG movie, and he's not doing it this time. That gives me hope he's moving on and we're getting a new head writer in S7
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>>28111656

It's literally a realm filled with magic, not an entire different reality that somehow becomes a copy of an entirely different one that everyone just accepts because some nerd brought a crown into it through a portal tied to a school statue.
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>>28111666

>Scilight

kys eqdfag
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>>28111657

Because she's not fluttershy and they'd eat her once she crossed over.
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>>28110146
>implying it hasn't been completely ruined
>implying this show isn't completely dead and ridden of what made it enjoyable, falling to memes and fandom references for 'charm'
>>28110187
>tall buildings aren't old world
>he missed the "eye watering" part
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>>28109910
Hype for Starlight.
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>>28111573
No, fuck it. They'll be calling this episode boring again. They'll say AJ is boring. I'm tired of this. AJ is not boring, I can come up with thousands of episode plots. Why are the new writers so retarded?
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>>28111668
>Its OK when the Pony Universe does it
OK, just admit that.

>>28111667
Assuming we get a S7
Maybe after the movie.
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>>28111655
>elements
>Shining-Condense Love Blast
>crystal heart
>rainbow power
>hurr durr it's okay when the show does it
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>>28111699
How many of those thousands of ideas involve sex?
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>>28111701

It's ok when pony universe does it because it's not a shitty movie series made to pander to waifufags who don't even watch the original show.
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>>28111717
>this many memerinos
wew laddie
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>>28111701

I actually HOPE its after the movie.
If they were having another season out next year, they wouldn't have time to listen to fan response to starlight before working on S7: They have to begin working on the next season before the previous season has aired its finale to stay on time table normally.

If they take a break next year for the movie, that means they have more time to sit back and examine how people have viewed starlight, and hopefully send her back to her home planet. (Also, her ship blows up on the way home)
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>>28111725

>Being this defense of a meme series only made for fetish threads

wew lad
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>>28111701
U wot m8
It makes sense for the pony setting.
Literally magic is real there
EqG is a big mess compared to it.
We literally know nothing about the world.
We don't know what the fuck the people actually are, why they have pony names, etc
We don't know what exactly the world is either. We don't know the country the location nothing.
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>>28111717
>I don't like EqG
OK, but your personal taste doesn't actually alter the fact that the way magic is handled in both EqG and Ponyverse is equally hand waved.
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>>28111739
Its an alternate dpreality, do t sperg out so hard. Its hardly a new concept.
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>>28111741

Magic in the show still makes more sense then "lol magic crown guess every non-magic person is a magic horse now".
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>>28111733
>Being this booty befuddled about people liking thing

woah dude
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>>28111731
Whilst I don't want to undersell the work they do for each season, the writers cannot be blind to fan reaction to Starlight. And let's be fair, its mixed.

Also, they don't really need masses of time to flash animate the show with stock assets.
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>>28111761

>it's ok to only watch a shitty movie series and act like it's better then the show's it's based off of.

woah senpai
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>eqgfags ruin another show thread
This is why people hate you. Just face the fact that your series is shit, befitting dumb kids and manchild autists
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>>28111739
My theory is that the world isn't natural in general and was created by Equestrian Magic, either by accident or by Starswirl. That would explain why it has all these parallels, but doesn't make sense in general. Pretty hand-wavy and generic, I know, but it's better than trying to explain how if Celestia and Luna are millennia old, how they are still alive in this magic-less world.
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>>28111770
You will like EQG more than the show sooner or later
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>>28111769
>my opinion is fact and everyone who disagrees thinks exactly the same way reeeeeeeeeeeee

geez family
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>>28111753
No, it doesn't.

Magic just EXISTS in Ponyverse because that's a trope of fantasy as a genre.

Magic has an ORIGIN in EqG.

If anything, there is LESS justification for magic in Ponyverse. You only accept it because its a trope of fantasy.not because its been explained.
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>>28111766
>Also, they don't really need masses of time to flash animate the show with stock assets.

but they have to make the scripts, begin recording va's, Composing songs, and a host of other things for each season too.
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>>28111782
>>28111779

This is why I hate you eqgfags, just make your own site for your filler movies and fuck off.
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>>28111776
Its a parallel world.
That's all there is to it.

Have you never seen any sci fi series ever? Is the concept alien to you?
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>>28111786

>A shitty origin is better then just having magic exist

t.eqgfag
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>>28111798

So the why the fuck do the characters in the other world have just as much if not more power then their original counterparts when they didn't have magic originally?
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>>28111788
Yeah, but the gap is what, foir, five, six or so months? That's a huge amount of time to write, record and compose.
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I like ponies and EqG equally
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>>28111798
Yeah, I know how parallel worlds work. Still makes it really weird, since they don't explain how far the parallels go. I mean, the latest Everfree clip had Celestia talking about going to the camp when she was a little girl. Her placement in the world is whacked out.
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>>28111823

Why would you torture yourself by still watching the show?
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>>28111753
>"lol magic crown guess every non-magic person is a magic horse now".


That's not true. That only applies to the mane six, who were explicitly Zapped with the Element of magic. Every other girl in the universe is non-magical.

The only other characters with magic are Equestrian rejects, like the dazzlings and Gaia-- and the Dazzlings don't even POSSESS magic normally, they had to rely on their amulets to provide magic, so they "personally" still lacked magic.
Now, Twilight in Friendship game's amulet was an asspull in that she randomly tinkered together some bullshit deus ex machina to drain magic without even KNOWING what the fuck it was.

And that is because Josh haber is a fucking Shit ass writer, and he can't write for shit. Just look at the S5 Finale and the S6 premier.
Those had just as many goddamned plot holes as Friendship games, because he is shit at his job.
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>>28111823
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OP here. Why did this turn into an EqG thread? I stay out of threads about EqG. Why do you guys come in here?
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>>28111835

>Only applies to the mane six

If that's true then Sunset's plan would have never worked to start with if you have to be touched by the crown to get magic.
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>>28111836
STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME
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>>28111799
Where did I say out was better, or worse?

I'm just saying magic isn't explained or justified in Ponyverse and that's accepted. But for some reason, no one accepts magic cause magic in a parallel world. Just seems silly to mex regardless of if you like the movies or not.

>>28111812
>Asking how does magic work
I'd say its fucking magic you dipshit.
Why are you asking for the ultimate handwave plot device to make sense...? Magic by definition breaks the rules of reality, it works however the writers need it to in BOTH realities.
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>>28111823
my nigga

>>28111841
Just look at the ip count, I swear it's the same 4 faggots shitposting Eqg vs Anti-eqg in all threads where this occurs.
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>>28111857

So again, how the hell is a group non-magic users suddenly on par with their original selves despite never having experienced magic before? Even their human twilight became shot straight to devilhood with a amulet and she never even went to Equestria.
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>>28111829
Do you really WANT an infodump explaining "how far the parallels go"?
Cause to me, that sounds silly.
>Her placement is whack
Parallel realities don't need to conform to each others timelines or even laws of nature.
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>>28111812
I think you're overthinking it a bit. It's pretty straightforward.

In the first movie, they got powered up by the crown and transformed into pony-girls because the crown uses pony friendship magic. The transformation disappeared as soon as the crown was removed and the portal closed.

Second movie, they establish that sirens can perform and cultivate magic using music. The ability was basically unlocked by the crown when they were initially transformed, so now they can access general magic stuff. Music then powers them up, and they do a super-combo at the end where they max out their music magic and create a giant horse god.

Third movie, they're still brimming with the music magic from the second movie and now start transforming when they embody their pony version element of harmony. They have enough to charge up both Twilight and Sunset into super forms.

Fourth movie, there's a magical force in a cave that is supercharging the magic they still have inside them and creating spontaneous powers.

Is this somehow not straightforward?
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The show was never good, Equestria Girls is the only good part.
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>>28111823
NO NO NO

You are only allowed to like pony or EqG. Liking both makes you no better than a Swedish Cuck
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>>28111884

All of it is still just damage control to explain the first movie's shitty writing.
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>>28111873
>Explain Magic
Are you retarded?
Its M A G I C it don't gotta explain shit.
That's true in Ponyverse and EqG and pretty much all fucking narratives where magic exists.
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>>28110158
They already made toys and books based on her, anon.

She's here to stay no matter if we like her or not, and the worst part is that according to Jim Miller, DHX shoehorned her inton FiM out of their own free will.
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>>28111900

>Just accept the shitty writing and focus on the waifus
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>>28111886
>part
Eqg isn't a part of the show, dumbass
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>>28111909

>Caring about Big Jim

Is that you Murrison?
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>>28111911
No, just accept the way magic has always functioned in almost all fiction in all of human history, you dense motherfucker.
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>>28111924

>Just accept the shitty writing, now focus on our "superior to the show" waifus
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>>28111917
>implying it isn't
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>>28111930
>projecting this hard
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>>28111909
Trixie has books and toys too, but that doesn't mean she's going to be a seventh EOH.
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>>28111930
You seem to believe that EqGfags don't like the show
Maybe when I'm in the next sticky I'll post nothing but EqG reaction images just for you
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>>28111941
>>28111945

>damage controlling this hard
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>>28111930
Wank to whatever you want you fucking shitheel, but don't try to act as if the way magic functions is somehow an aberration. That is just an excuse for your penis preference.

Ypou wanna know the best part anon?

I think EqG is shit too. But you are a fucking moron who needs to be fucking schooled if you are seriously going ng to ask for MAGIC TI BE EXPLAINED, you god damn genetic cul de sac.
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>>28111955
>muh FiM vs EqG war
>muh black and white
>muh dank memes
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>>28111923
Not even close, pinche mamon.
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>>28109910
oh god it's all fucking shit
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>>28111968

>muh eqg is better then the show meme
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>>28111973

>brony oc

kys
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>>28111943
> And to think that instead of the outrageous buffon she is, Faust's original plans for Trixie included the idea of making her a true anti-Twilight and anti-harmony character, being deadly capable and powerful, but consumed and fueled by her envy and grudge.

Why do you make me feel feelings that feel bad, man?
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There's literally nothing wrong with liking EGQ and FIM at the same time.
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>>28111961

>J-just accept the shitty writing already, s-sunset is far better than any character from that s-shitty show only autists like
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>>28112004
Because honesty.
Hope and wishes won't change the world, no matter how much you might wish it.

Trixie was so much more entertaining of an anti-twilight than starlight too...
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>>28112012
Give me twelve examples from fiction where magic is explained as anything other than just Magic.

And I don't mean some bullshit about magic really being nanobots, I mean a fantasy world where magic, the intangible force that warps reality, is given a logical explanation. Twelve examples.

Then and only then can you begin to even suggest that the way magic works as a great big handwave plot device is somehow strange.

Or alternatively, concede with another sperg out with green text.
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>>28112049

Full metal alchemist.
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>>28112073
kek
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>>28111991
I literally never said that ever
Keep grasping at straws to justify your immense autism
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>>28112077
First off, you are missing quite a few. Second off, clarify your point.
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>>28112107
I was giving an example of a show that had extremely explicit rules and explanations for how magic worked in that universe.

I'm just leaving one and letting everyone else fill in others.
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>>28112117
Yeah, except your didn't do what I asked. The actual nature oioif magic isn't explained. There are a lot of rules surrounding its use, but magic itself isn't given an explanation or justification. Unless you misunderstand what Alchemy is. Alchemy isn't magic. Its using physical items to unlock the inherent magical properties of an item. The area of transmutation that FMA focused on is o my one facet of it. So no, your one example out of the twelve I asked for is flawed.
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>>28112150
>28112150
>alchemy isn't magic
Dude, alchemy IS magic, its just magic with rules.

your fucked up if you are saying "Give me an example of magic with rules and explanations besides its magic!" and then rule out magics that are Scientfici!

You're basically saying anything that matches your criteria ISN'T magic, making your premise fucktarded and self defeating (as any answers to your request are Disqualified)
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Put your shit anime conversation somewhere else
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>>28112150
Jesus Christ, how far is your head shoved up your ass?
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>>28112174
No, it isnt magic. Its using chemistry to unlock the magical properties inherent in natural objects.

No, I said give me 12 examples where Magic is explained as more than simply Magic. You interpreted that incorrectly.

I wasn't asking g for a facet of magic with rules, I was asking for an ORIGIN and EXPLANATION OF THE SOURCE OF MAGIC in that narrative that isn't just "Magic Exists".

Please don't attempt to move the goalposts again.
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when I opened this thread I didn't expect it would be a place for being a pretentious autist trying to lead his first argument after spending a day on /pol/
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>>28109910

>no good episodes until September 24th

fuck me
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>>28112199
>THE SOURCE OF MAGIC


Either energy derived from plate tectonics or the residual energy value of Souls resulting from the death of other people in a paralell reality.

There. Fucking that. The source of alchemy is very well documented in the series.
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>>28112232
So, they rename kinetic energy as magic and otherwise power their abilities with souls. Which of course are just a hand wave being excused with another hand wave. Great.

So in a narrative sense, how is LOL SOULS FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION functionally different from LOL CROWN FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION? Be honest.
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>>28111513
>I don't see why people are taking such contention with her redemption.

It's hard to forgive her past, especially with how it was turned around so quickly to the point where she'll probably get a throne seat that she earns by being forced through friendship lessons. All the while look where the rest of the cast is and realize how it took them the length of the entire series to be at the level of having a throne, and yet they'll still be learning shit.
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>>28112150
>Give an example
>Clarify your point, you're not giving enough examples, points deducted
Does this guy think he's teaching a class requesting an assignment?
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>>28112401
>All the while look where the rest of the cast is and realize how it took them the length of the entire series to be at the level of having a throne, and yet they'll still be learning shit.
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>>28112228
> Implying the episodes after that will be good
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>>28112426
>Fluttershy singlehandedly reforms discord

*cough* S4 finale *cough*
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>>28112426
Okay, Twilight's a Sue, thank Meghan, and Glimmer is one too. And the Mane 6 get treated like nothing. What else is new?
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>>28112414
I'm pretty sure some of you need schooling. So, yeah, in a sense. However, based on the long silence of the last guy and my desire to do pretty much anything else, class dismissed.

>>28112256
In case you >>28112232 come back, the correct answer to the question above is that there is no difference in their narrative function, sir.
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>>28112228
>Implying the Starlight episode will be good
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>>28112441
So you're either an underage summerfag, or you're a kid in college who thinks he knows it all because he completed his freshman year and is getting ready to go back. Okay.

Fuck off.
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>>28112426
Twilight Sparkle will be no longer a princess in the S6 finale.

>>28112435
Discord will be back to evil in the future.

>>28112436
Meghan McCarthy is still the worst writer ever!
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>>28112451
>Telling someone to fuck of as they leave of their own accord
Precious.
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>>28112426
yeah, I suppose that's fair. still it doesn't excuse how fast it has been so far. I suppose if there are more rough spots like no second prances or >>28112435 then at least her reformation won't be like flipping a light switch.
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>not one solo twilight episode this season.

time to kill myself.
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>>28113205
I hadn't really considered that until now.
Figure S7 will get started on letting the cmc take the focus, more background characters to step up, and the mane six to just show up and nod at the end.
I'd be sadder if I wasn't a sunfag and used to disappointment.
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>>28112500
Oh you're just a special kind of faggot, aren't ya?
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>>28113205
Do it, Twilight doesn't deserve any episodes if she just keeps turning the show into just about her for each premier and finale, and all 3 Equestria Girls.
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>>28110412
>her return to being good is brought on by a magical rainbow beam.
No it isn't.
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>>28110073
>Oh boy, another episode with stand-in American cities in Equestria. Oh boy, another Flim and Flam do evil shit... because they're evil! episode. Strong chance of being shit.

They don't do evil shit because they're evil. They do evil shit because they are greedy.
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>>28113299
She wasn't the focus of the last two premieres, and EQG shouldn't count, it's an afterthought. Not having any SoL episodes focused on her is bad for her character
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>>28110670
She could create cakes better than a professional baker. Her original plan didn't involve fighting an alicorn.
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>>28111307
Not really relevant, but I wouldn't put a space between your redtext and the rest of your post.
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>>28111573
Discord is still secretly evil.
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>>28113428
She got more focus in the last premiere than the rest of the Mane 6. When do they even get a chance to contribute anything, aside from Fluttershy in S5's premier? Was it seriously just Friendship is Magic?
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>>28113508
He was never evil. He just enjoys disorder and disharmony. Evil would imply he actively wants to hurt people. He just wants to see shit go crazy.
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>>28111823
>liking either
Faggot.
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>>28113205
Don't worry, we still have the finale where she'll lose her wings.
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>>28113205
She's been dead in all but name for years. Move on, by being angry all the time.
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>>28113653
LOL this
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>>28113703
LMAO true dat
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Oh hey, an episode on my birthday, Sept 24!
Last time that happened was all the way back on my very first episode, The Return of Harmony Part 1. In 2011.
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>>28113299
Hopefully they've gotten the hint; Legend of everfree seems to be trying to make the others relevent by giving them magic too.
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>It's a Starlight fucks everything up ep
>It won't be her fault
>She will still feel bad
Moral is stop trying to be a brainwashed puppet
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>>28109910
Im just hype we get a griffon cub soon
griffon chick?
i don't care as long as its adorable
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>>28109910
If buckball = baseball then yes, if buckball = football, basketball, or something else entirely then no.

>loli griffin hype
>Flim Flam hype (if they don't fuck it up)
>Suelight Shitter episode
I'll take 2 or 3 out of 4.
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Would you rather:

Your favorite characters get a lot of focus, but they fucking butcher them because the writing is shit

or

Your favorite characters get sidelined and spared from the atrocious writing
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>>28113855
the latter
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>>28113780
>It's a Starlight fucks everything up ep
>she does it even though she knows better
>it all fucks up on her and she throws a tantrum
>"its ok starlight u didnt mean it"
>"yea ok ur right :)"
>"thats what friends are for, right? haha"
>the season finale will be twilight realizing starlight is an abusive bitch and that not all friends are worth keeping even if they seemed nice for a while

They won't do it because that kind of moral is really heavy for 7 year-olds but I would regain all my lost respect for this show if they went through with it or something similar.
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>>28113909
Honestly, my faith in the show would be restored if they just sent her to Tartarus in the finale. Not happening, though
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>>28111028
>Sounds like a pretty weird one, could be fun in an absurd way. I imagine Fluttershy's success will be based on accidental wins.
It would be interesting if Fluttershy is actually just a natural, and lets it go to her head. Thus she gets very competitive, and gets angry when the rest of the team can't keep up.
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>>28113508
Well, yes he is, because he pretend that he's been reform and plan the take revenge on the ponies.

>>28113520
He is evil, faggot! He's the master of chaos and he will die in the future.
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This thread has been brought to you by "Dave Rapp Should Be Fired, Ltd.", a division of "We Need Better Writers, Inc.". And remember, if your show is becoming shit, maybe it's time to fire Dave Rapp!
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>>28114657
>He is evil, faggot! He's the master of chaos and he will die in the future.
You're retarded
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