Show turned to shit ever since he left. What a surprise.

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>>28101636
/thread

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>>28101636
>The show turned to shit after Mitch "I see it as a sitcom that resets after every episode" Larson left

>>28101636
thanks for the wings though

>>28101636
Anybody has that video where Larson says "it's over she is dead" after Twilight gets hit with the beams from the elements?

>>28101636
So thats it then. this guy is gone forever?

>>28101681
Jhaller's channel. It's somewhere over there.

He wrote MMC and Slice of Life. The show was already shit with him.

>>28101675
Did Mitch really say that? Could've sworn Jim was the one who said that.

>>28101636
Not canon

>>28101703
>Two out of 16 episodes are shit
>"He's the worst!"

>>28101719
Nothing after Larson left is canon

Larson and AKR were the only two good writers in the show. Prove me wrong. Protip: I'll kill your whole family if you even consider trying

>>28101699
Finally, found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7CZz1TuIfI

>>28101709
https://youtu.be/TUktBarg7YQ?t=3m21s
I'm surprised you thought Jim said it, usually it gets misquoted to Haber.

>>28101725
>Nothing after Faust left is canon
FTFY

>>28101759
See >>28101703

>>28101703
>The best episodes are the worst
Kys

>>28101792
See >>28101723

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>>28101790
>Implying G4 is canon

>>28101797
B A I T
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>>28101703

both heavily edited by hasbro.

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>>28101819
This

>>28101788
>"This show is a little different, but for the most part it get's reset."
Well yeah, no shit. You're working in a format that is self-contained episode by self-contained episode. This isn't a sign that he doesn't care about continuity or anything (which he clearly does based on how often his episodes use it) more a result of the model that the episodes are produced in. They literally cannot rely on the episode order releasing the same as the production order so they have to treat every episode like it's self contained.

Regardless of what he said his actions speak louder than his words. Amending Fences is an episode literally all about going back to see Twilight's old friends; if "every episode reset" then those characters in the first episode don't matter, right?

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>>28101797

>>28101703
MMC was edited after he'd left. The one thing he will confess to doing wrong was how he handled the talent mix up thing. It's not like making Twilight an Alicorn was his choice or anything. SoL was, again, edited after he'd left. Actual jokes were cut out for time leaving memes and fan pandering instead without his say on the matter.

How long has he been gone?

>>28101830
That's what he wants you to think.

>>28101830

He is lying like the jews with the holocaust

>>28101830

nice source, Larson

>>28101842
Regarding actual continuity, you have to remember that episode ideas are thought up during a writing summit and more often get assigned to a different writer than who came up with the idea.
Just as well Larson himself had admitted to at least two episodes he was assigned that either got fucked with during production and changed from how they were originally written, or weren't specifically episodes he wanted to work on but had to because that was what was assigned to him.

I feel like in spite of this a lot of people give Larson way more credit than he probably deserves. Not saying he's a bad writer, he must be decent at least if the head writer and directors were able to work most of his scripts into good episodes.

>Amending Fences
I'm mostly on the fence about that particular episode. Good concept, sure, but the execution was essentially a retread of A Friend Indeed where main character finds out somebody doesn't like them so they pester the shit out of them until they do. Could have been a great lesson on how not all friendships will stay the same and sometimes it's best to move on, but that's generally a fault of the show's theme being mostly rainbows and friendship.

I also felt like the episode was a bit out of place taking until 5 seasons after the first episode for Twilight to suddenly realize she use to have friends before. I think it might have worked better perhaps in S4 where she was getting use to her role as Princess of Friendship™. Definitely could have served as a point of development toward that.

Op is right

Buy my book pls

>>28101927
Having spoken to Larson about the writing process, the way that stories are split up during the writing summit is that if an episode has a "story by" credit it's the person under that credit who came up with it during the summit. Episodes without a "story by" credit were suggested and written by the same person; which is the case for most of the time.

>>28101636
He was like the only one beside AMy Rogers who bothered dwelling into the lore and characters out of own interest than just doing his job.

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>>28101852
But in the end MMC wasn't his idea.
Hasbro told them that S3 was the last one at the last minute and they had to push the 'ending' and were forced to only works with one episode, instead of 2 parters.

>>28101723
MMC is the worst episode of the series.

So are we gonna have Larsonfags now?

>>28102168
And he wrote Amending Fences and The Cutie Map and Return to Harmony; the last one consistently being on top of polls for the best episode. What's your point? The 1 "worst" episode out of 16 means he's the worst but 6 of the best episodes out of 16 doesn't mean he's good?

>>28101636
>Show turned to shit
Eh, I wouldn't say that. S6 had a number of pretty great episodes so far, but it definitely can't keep up with S5, that's true.

>>28101852
You're right on MMC, but implying that the decisions made on Slice of Life were against his will is not taking into account everything. Larson had written loads of jokes, so they had to cut some in production because they couldn't fill them all in. The rest is still all very much his writing, as opposed to MMC, which was changed, not just cut down. Almost every episode gets cut a little in production due to time or other constraints.

>>28101927
>two episodes
Only MMC, see above and also he warmed up to the idea of SoL. Unless the second one you mean isn't SoL.

I think people give Larson adequate credit. His episodes were well-written and I think you're rather overestimating the input the head writer and directors have on the actual script. Because I have doubts that Larson would leave Princess Spike as-is if he had that much input (I guess we can still blame him for letting that happen, though).

>Amending Fences
You have a point, but I don't think that comparison is entirely fair. There definitely are parallels, but the situation is pretty different given that Moondancer and Twilight already knew each other and it was more of a psychological study. Also where Pinkie knowing Matilda seemed like more of a plot convenience, Moondancer's situation felt very realistic and was a more genuine result of the plot. Besides, I actually think the episode delivers that lesson of not all friendships needing to be as close and personal as the mane 6's is portrayed pretty well with the apology scene in the donut bar (OK, not exactly the same as you meant, but pretty close) and that's another reason why I like it.

>>28102056
That's a bit harsh Anon, you don't actually know that. Confalone and the Songcos at least seem to care, and I'd say the same of Rapp even if his first episode wasn't too well received.

>>28101636
Thanks, M.A. Larson.

whiny bitch thread no.42302

thank you, come again

To bad that he will never return to the show.

We're stuck with Haber and the johnny test writers for the rest of the ride

>>28101927
>I think it might have worked better perhaps in S4 where she was getting use to her role as Princess of Friendship
Good point, but Larson wasn't working on S4, and he was only able to do it because he became head writer anyways even though he'd wanted to do it for a while. Apparently the rest of the team never found it that great of an idea.

>>28102168
Spike at Your Service exists.

>>28102245
Well, one of the Johnny Test writers is OK.

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>>28102032
Checks out, point taken.

>>28102220
It was SoL I was referring to, but I gave those as examples that his 'devotion' to the show and lore should be taken with some level of skepticism rather than blatant assumption of truth. It shows he was ultimately just an employee of Hasbro's who did the work he was assigned. Though not to discredit his respectful acquaintance with Lauren as another factor. Same as many of the early writers.

>Amending Fences
You make good points and it is a good episode. I just personally feel it might have worked better either in S4 when Twilight needed that kind of development of working out her own friendship problem, or else just settling as a good lesson that you're going to lose some friends in life who happened to drift away. A bit dark for this show I suppose, but a valuable life lesson that it would only hurt more to dwell on the past.

>>28102273
>Apparently the rest of the team never found it that great of an idea.
>Based Larson is the only one who could come up with such great ideas!
Don't be a dick-rider. I don't even hate Larson or most of his episodes, but the level of fanboyism especially here on /mlp/ is ridiculous. There are people who unironically believe that idea I sarcastically twisted from your words.

>SaYS
I use to hate that and also believe it was the worst episode in the show, but then a random anon actually highlighted it's merits in comparison to something like "Princess Spike" and I've come to not really hate it as much as I use to. Outside of the clear-cut fuck ups that passing the story between Polsky and Merriwether caused, there were some genuinely good traits of Spike that were depicted.

>>28101636
that unfunny meme clown? give me a break , the finale of season 5 was shit and everything he did

>>28101703
Both recived heavy executive meddeling.

>>28101709
Jim only has praises for the show and constantly tries to kiss Faut's butt to her her approval.

She jokes with him and the cast, but still hasn't said a single nice thing about the show.

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>>28102517
Larson didn't write the s5 finale, Haber did.

>>28102517
He didn't write the season 5 finale, that was current story editor and head writer Josh Haber.

>>28102616
No, but Larson wanted to add Flash Sentry to SoL to mock the people who disliked the character.

>>28102644
That would have been glorious

>>28102653
It was a scene with Flash Sentry crying and wondering why everyone hated him so much.

>>28102739
That would have been better than Doctor Who memes

>>28102563
I wonder why Hasbro executives would want to meddle with Slice of Life. I understand meddling with MMC, of course, but what about Slice of Life would compel them to step in?

>>28102750
Because they wanted to pander to bronies as much as they could.

>>28102739
My life would have been complete and we could finally stop with all these arguments that EG is canon.

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>>28102774
>EQG
>canon

>>28101636

Actually, it turned to shit after McCarthy, AKR, AND Larson left.

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>>28102778
>Faustfag

>>28101759
you forgot Meghan

>>28102273
>Spike at Your Service exists.

You can dislike episodes due to a poor premise until the cows come home but MMC was structurally fucked, which is why it "wins" for me. It violated too many storytelling conventions for me to tolerate and not merely found itself telling a bad story competently.

>>28101636
The show is the same as it ever was. Your tastes have changed. You're not a brony anymore.

>>28102906
Hello, Jim.

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>>28102906
>The show is the same as it ever was

>>28103025
it's better since she left. meghan did a better job.

>>28103051
this bait is shit
stop posting

>>28102806
We lost too many good writers and story editor this season...
And Meghan and Vogel will probably move to creating that new show after the movie and not returning, I don't know what to expect for further seasons.
Is Jayson Thiessen returning to the show at least?

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>>28103051
>Meghan "Twilight Sparkle is the only character I know" McCarthy
>Better job than Faust

>>28103397
We are fucked as long Jim Miller remains as director.

His only experience directing cartoons was from Ed, Edd and Eddy, and it shows how randomlol shit is the only kind of "entertaiment" he's suited to direct.

>>28102818
>>28103051
>>28103456
Meghan McCarthy still sucks and we still want her fired!

>>28103457
Jim Miller is still a dork like Jayson Thiessen!

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He was better than Haber but that just means he was good by MLP standards. Hasbro could have tried to get the best writers in the industry to replace Those Who Fled. Instead, if they continue on present heading, the reboot will be DOA and a Zombie version of The Lauren's vision of the show will emerge.

>>28104896
Haber is worse than Polsky and thats saying a lot.

Dude... Larson can write a pony episode wasted and it would be more entertaining and thought provoking than most of the other writers could muster on their best day.