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ITT: reading, writing, recommending, I jaywalked and got six months in Tartarus, touching yourself to high quality prose, retreading the same old discussion with hightened autism, canon discussion, multiple genitalia, pretty pony names, beating superior officers, my interpretation differs from yours and therefore you're wrong, Rarity is the mightiest unicorn of them all, credits sequences in the middle of your story, Equestria's size, unironically being ironic, the weapons debate eventually veered off into armour, powerlevels, semantics, and Shinkazura finds a way to reach new levels of whatthefuckery!

Unimpressed by the latest "Pony Verbs a Noun" in the featured box? Waiting for the next dose of All American Drama? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!

>FIMFiction Starter Kit (recommended fics):
Winners:
http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png
List of nominees by category:
http://mlp-fanfics.herokuapp.com/

>How do I write fanfiction?
Ezn’s guide - http://eznguide.neocities.org/
Politics and the English Language - http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/
Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - http://pastebin.com/g4VpEg4f

>Can you pre-read my story?
Post it on Google Docs with inline comments enabled and give us a link. Someone will take a look at it eventually.

>Reviews and riffs:
http://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmom

>Voiceguy's readings:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt68MpmvEketmqOdHncHI2w

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>>27678042
I practice writing by creating short greentexts to reply to shitposts.
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>>27678086
We're off to a great start.
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F-futaloo get?
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Futa Belle get.
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>>27678388
I think we should take what we can.
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found this little gem

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/272451/anon-goes-to-prison

strange how i never came across it before seeing how popular it is, and the author's bad story list he displays on his profile is pretty lulzy
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>>27678388
What the actual fuck.
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>>27678969
Indeed. Why does everyone feel the need to stick a dick on a female, yet no one ever gives a male a cunt
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>>27679046
vaginas are gayer then cock
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FUCK YOU FAGLORDS INDIGO IS GOOD AND I HATE YOU LEMON POSTERS SHITTING UP MY THREAD WITH YOU "YUR WAIFU A SHIT" BULLSHIT MAYMAY FUCK!!! FUCK BACK OFF TO WHATEVER CANCER THREAD YOU CRAWLED OUT OF AND STAY THERE WITH YOUR "I WANNA CUM INSIDE RAINBOW DASH" AND "FIND A FLAW" BULLSHITTERY!! RECYCLED MEMES EVERY DAMN DAY AND ALL I WANTED WAS A DECENT INDIGO THREAD FUUUCCKKK OFFFFF
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>>27679215
wrong tab?
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>>27679217
>>27677371
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>>27679261
I still hope it was just the wrong tab and not a shitty newfag meme.
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>>27679269
Apparently Zestfags were spamming the Indigofags with their waifu, hence anon being mad.
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Wh... who is Indigo?
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>>27679460
This bitch from EQG
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>>27679460
Shitty EqG secondary character who had like 10 minutes of screentime total.
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>>27679474
Her fans are in war with pic related's fans
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>>27679480
We are..?
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I want EqG waifufags with pig disgusting waifus to leave and take their shit memes with them.
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>>27679490
Well, it seems, according to their posts.
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>>27679480
>>27679474
These are some background characters from the latest movie? Because honestly, if you told me they were OCs I would believe you
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>>27679497
Secondary plot devices with literally zero actual impact.
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>frogposts
>writes in all caps
>likes eqg
Why am I not surprised?
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>>27679474
>>27679490
those are both pretty shit looking waifus
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>>27679766
Still better than /swg/

Home of toilet pone.
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>>27679937
*/swt/
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>>27679976
I don't know what that is and I'm not sure I want to know.
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>>27679996
>>27559734

If you wanted to wash your eyes with bleach, might as well see it before.
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>>27680005
I've seen that thread before.
It has literally nothing of value. It's all just circlejerking with barely any content to speak of.
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>>27679937
at least 'toilet pone' whatever that may be sounds like it could have a purpose.

So I'm just going to have to assume toilet pone is still better than a discount lightning dust and the one that looks like a sprite spokesperson
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Seeing this kind of stuff makes me relate with Autismo. Every time I check my feed I find stuff like this.
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>>27680221
Still waiting for quads.

But seriously, it happens because I'm mostly (not) writing, and almost never go on Fimfic due to the pure amount of autism.
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>>27680271
>I'm mostly (not) writing
How dare you say that to me.
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>>27680284
Y tu, anon, y tu?

Do you write?
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>>27680271
>because I'm mostly (not) writing
WHERE'S MY FIRST FUCKING CHAPTER OF NH YOU FUCKING LAZY FAGGOT
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>>27680294
In my NH folder

I'm just trying to get myself to finish a one-shot just to know what Fimfic would think of my style. Seeing how they react to the utter shit I've seen, I think they might like it.
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>>27680293
>Do you write?
As a matter of fact, I do.
Jury's still out on the quality.

>>27680294
Also, this.
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>>27680305
Where do you see those stats?
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>>27680305
still way too many characters. stick to a handful of characters and maybe 20 more as a supporting cast. youre no shinkazura, so writing 12000 characters isnt for you
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>>27680314
Shift+Ctrl+C, brah.

>>27680338
You know, one would think that'd stop being funny, but I still laugh when you say that.
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>>27680353
Oh, thought it was on Fimfic.

And the prologue still isn't complete, although I'm not doing it entirely in a linear way.
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>>27680353
oh
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The write stuff
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>>27681476
You got the write stuff, baby
Love the way you write pony porn
You got the write stuff, baby
You're the reason why I clop at all
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Chink Chink Chink
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New Rainbow Dash Presents just came out.
Does anyone watch these? Are the fics they're presenting worth reading?
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/33145/my-little-pony-quickbolt
Just leaving this here. I hoped on it while perusing the lowest rated stories. Not sure what to say, really.
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>>27682805
>Does anyone watch these?
Yeah. I tend to like them.

>Are the fics they're presenting worth reading?
Generally no. I don't know about this last one though, it seems like it might be decent.
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>>27682911
I wonder what fic has the highest dislikes-minus-likes value? I'd run a script to parse through the archive's JSON, but I'm busy downloaded the latest version of the archive and my CPU is busy doing research stuff.
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>>27683014
I want to know so that I may read it.
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You lazy bastards-
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>>27682805

I watch them, and I've read all the stories.

Bubbles wasn't bad, Haunting Nightmare, Rainbow Factory, and MLD are not worth reading, Spiderses is a trollfic, and Star in Yellow is legit good.
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>>27684396
I mean, who still hasn't read Rainbow Factory, MLD or Cupcakes in this day and age.
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>>27684396
Me.

They just don't appeal at all, so I don't see why I should waste my time on them.
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>>27684477
Did you join in like 2015?
They all used to be a HUGE deal.
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>>27684405
I actually never read MLD. It had humans in it, so I wasn't interested.
I almost dropped Anthropology too when it stopped being about Ponyland, but I figured that I was so invested that I might as well just finish it.
I read so many fics back then. Now I read almost nothing. I probably should.
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>>27684405
I still haven't read Rainbow Factory, but I did see the Rainbow Dash presents.

Curiously enough, I read cupcakes way before I even knew about pony.
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Can we post about shit fics we have read?

For some reason, that I cannot properly remember, I was huge into Vinyl ScratchxOctavia at some point. I suspect Allegrezza and The Vinyl Scratch Tapes were to blame. 2012 was a wild time, and the two had already been one of the fandom's definitive ships for a year.

Long story short, I ended up reading Two's Company, Three's a Crowd. For longer than I'd care to admit.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/2060/twos-company-threes-a-crowd
>it's still fucking incomplete
>it's still being fucking updated
Now, I don't think I've touched it since maybe 2012, but still. It's more contrived lesbian babydrama than I should ever have set out to read in the first place.
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>>27684629
I've read Cupcakes before even watching the show.
Then My Little Dashie. The ending made me cry.
Then I just started reading random stuff. I've mostly read decent stuff, though, oddly enough. The most autistic ones were Rorschach in Equestria (though I remember it being fairly well written) and a shitty Polish fanfic about a human and humanized Fluttershy meeting each other in a coma. Its name was Koma.
And now I'm stuck in the Persona EG hell.

Reading Fallout Equestria when it was still incomplete has dramatically improved my English proficiency. I don't think I'd be nearly as fluent as I am now without it. Not that I'm suddenly a walking thesaurus, of course.
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>>27684495
Well, as huge as they were, the synopsis really didn't interest me that much. I wasn't at all into humans or gore in MLP, so I didn't bother.

Are they worth the read though?
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>>27684797
Not at all. But most people have.
I guess you can try MLD. It's pretty controversial on /mlp/ (or used to be on the /mlp/ I knew), but I think it has 11808 likes on fimfiction, so obviously it did something right.
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>>27684826
MLD is effective as a feelsy fic, but not necessarily a good one.
The feels are there, but they're written as they're purposefully crafted to pull at your heartstrings. Rob Cakeran said once that he ignored certain logic holes just for the purpose of telling the story.
Plus it's one of the earliest fanfics of the fandom, so there's that.
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>>27684826
Past Sins also has over 10k likes, so does FOE
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>>27684964
FoE has 7k, since it was uploaded long after being finished
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>>27684826
I really don't get feels fics, so I guess I'm staying out.

I really don't know why though. Might be because I'm diagnosed with Aspergers, but I never really felt any emotion relative to a fictional characters other than extremely light sympathy.
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>>27684990
>I really don't know why though. Might be because I'm diagnosed with Aspergers
I guess it will forever remain a mystery.
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>>27684978
My bad then, bad memory.
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>>27684990
You have a lack of empathy
Sorry bud, some people with Asperger's can develop feelings and emotions so there's hope for you yet.
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>>27685069
I do have some, but for like two people, none of which are in my family, and even then it's extremely superficial.

Well, what do you expect anyways from anyone on 4chan?
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>>27684990
>Might be because I'm diagnosed with Aspergers
Nah, it's probably just because your parents didn't love you.
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>>27685133
>Well, what do you expect anyways from anyone on 4chan?
Normal people. The large majority of 4chan's users are completely normal in all or most significant ways.
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>>27685164
I know why I lost hope in normal people now then.
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>>27685151
>Nah, it's probably just because your parents didn't love you.
You've got it mixed up. It's a well known medical fact that mothers not loving their children enough is the main cause of autism.
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>>27685202
Well, I did almost suffocate at birth, so much that the doctors hooked me up on an oxygen bag asap.

And my nun did drop me headfirst on a concrete surface at 5 months.
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>>27685218
Jeesh, sorry hear that, man.

Funny, not so funny story, shortly after I was born there was a cholera outbreakat the nursery room that killed seven babies because some of the nurses didn't properly disinfect some bottles. I was going to be number eight, but by that point the doctors got their heads out of their butts and revived me.
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>>27685218
Nuns are known to do that. Around the clergy, beware.

>>27685256
What kind of third world country do you live in? Poland?
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>>27685218
post-natal abortions have a sadly low success rate.
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>>27685432
Perú, actually.

Additional fun fact. The reason the nurses forgot to properly disinfect the baby bottles was because they'd been celebrating too hard for Mother's Day, which was around that same week I was born.

I think I must have been around three days old or so.
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>>27685218
>And my nun did drop me headfirst on a concrete surface at 5 months.
Ah, the old "One morning and five months after pill".
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>>27680221
>being a member of the general shipping group
Why? Why wouldn't you join a group specifically about a ship you like? That way the autism and shitty stories are at least contained to characters you enjoy.

>>27684405
I still haven't read Cupcakes. Considering it's original point was to horrifically subvert SoL PinkieDash, it has long since lost what little impact it wold have had on me.

>>27684797
>Are they worth the read though?
MLD is a solid 4/10. I read it back at it's peak and I couldn't help but think "Thank god Dash is back in Equestria and the Elements aren't fucked up anymore." No feels were had, but I wasn't a Dashfag.

From what little I remember of Bubbles, it was a 7/10 oneshot. Worth the read.

Fimfiction tell some I've read Haunting Nightmare but I have absolutely no recollection of it, which means it was literally forgettable.

Rainbow Factory could have done some great things with its premise, but fucked it up to have a shitty grimdark ending. The sequel was much better but still fucked up the ending.

Spidersis was pretending to be retarded, so I didn't enjoy it as much as a real shit story would be.

Star in Yellow was an 8/10. Also well worth a read. No idea why it's being parodied.
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>>27686858
>No idea why it's being parodied
Not like only bad things can get parodies.
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>>27687368
This.
Besides, RDP has always been a platform for poking fun at FiM's characters and tone, which you can do regardless of what story you're telling.
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hi, anybody can recommend me some anon in equestria romance like My Special Somepony from fluterpriest? i like the stories of sad anon in equestria gettingcheered up (or somepony else) but i mostly find cringy stories of already brony guys writing themselves loving their vaifus.
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>>27687474
Can't say I know any, but I'd like to read a non-autistic HiE romance as well.
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>>27687527
>non-autistic
>romance
There is no such thing as a good romance story. The whole romance genre is low-quality whish fullfilment, by definition.
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>>27687531
I've read plenty romance fics that aren't like that. You probably meant HiE.
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>>27687531
thats because people write themselves into the story, thats when it starts to get autistic. If they write it from an other perspective like a predetermined personality like most of the time Anon is presented, it can be interesting.
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Watching yourself in a mirror doesn't make it someone else.
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>>27687604
das deep mane
why are you posting it here?
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>>27687639
Oops.

Meant to reply to >>27687599
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>>27687648
it actually does, you can hardly know the limits and flaws of yourelf but if you look at it from outside and you treat it as a diferent entity you can actually reflect on it. thats why its so hard to be selfconcious because you can rarely see yourself as somebody else.
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>>27687663
If the guy was writing a shitty Gary Stu fuckaru self-insert in the first place, he won't be much different in a third/second person view. His main character will still be portrayed very positively.
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DOWAS hits half a million words and the middle aged horsefucker writing it only averages 300 words per day
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>>27688124
that is kinda my point, if they are willing/abele to write about somebody else than themselves its probably not as bad
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>>27688276
Even if he was writing about anyone else, they wouldn't change that much, and their portrayal of their self-insert remains extremely positive, no matter who they're writing.

Take that fic with anthro Twilight pov from last thread; the guy wrote from Twilight's pov, but it still turned out shit.
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>>27688275
Wait, it's not finished yet? With all these people recommending it in this thread, I thought it was.
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>>27688275
What's dowas?
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>>27688275
Meanwhile, the DoaM guy and that insane blooming moons person are chuckling quietly in the distance.
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>>27688288
the sequel is as long as the original and still ongoing

and your dubs is the best dubs when discussing a story entitled 'Final Solution'
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>>27688300
27 years of reign from 1928 election to 1945, 6 million Jews killed, 88 mm gun on the Tiger II and 88 mm on the Tiger I.

27688288 is the ultimate nazi number.
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>>27688295
Days of Wasp and Spider, I assume.

>>27688300
Yours ain't too shabby either.
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>>27688295
Days of Wasp and Spider

>>27688298
and kudzuhaiku laughs at all of them for no sane reason
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>>27688327
The word count is not the scary part, this thing has almost as many chapters than days I've been watching the show for.
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>>27688308
>27688288 is the ultimate nazi number
it would be, except 1945-1928=17

>>27688327
exactly. chase is 2.3 million words and has only been running for 2 years. DoaM is only 1.8m and has been running for over 4. Bloomin moon is only around 1m iirc. its only sad because its the longest series written that no one has ever read
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>>27688345
Fuck me. Well, 1918 is the year the war ended I guess, which marks the end of Reichtangle.

Or some shit.

And isn't DOWAS 250k?
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>>27688354
>And isn't DOWAS 250k
235k
plus 270k words of sequel
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>>27688363
and thats not the title that I dont remember. I knew DoWaS had a sequel but I dont recognize the title. did he rename it?
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>>27688363
Still four times less than Chase, and a readable amount.
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>>27688363
That's a fuckton of bookshelves.
I can see what looks live favs, tracking and a read-later list but the rest is a mystery.
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>>27688345
The longest story in Blooming Moon is around 1 million. There are 10 stories in the series that add up to around 4.5 million.
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>>27688384
tracking
complete fics
complete series
incomplete series
clop
read
dead
cancelled
faves (I dont actually use that one)
and dropped

using search filters is too much of a pain in the ass on my phone, so I keep comple shit and incomplete shit seperate.

and yes I keep track of deadfics, cancelled fics, and shit that was too retarded to finish reading

>>27688390
yeah 4.4m in total. and Im pretty sure even bleedin has racked up more page views than BRR. talk about a waste of effort
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>>27688442
Would it be the weirdest thing you'd ever been asked if I was curious to take a look at that clop folder?
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>>27688464
The weirdest thing ever? no not by a long shot.

That being said all of my shelves are set to private and thats not changing
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>>27688491
Fair enough tbqh.
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So I've read The Star In Yellow and it did not disappoint.

Despite the Dark tag it's full of little chuckleworthy tidbits of comedy, perhaps I was in a good mood but this kept me grinning a significant part of the time.

Overall the story is pretty feelsy, it's not the darkest Dark story ever witnessed by anonymous eyes, but it does give an unsettling feeling, and the villain's motivation is sadly understandable if you have a bit of a repressed idealistic streak.

This fic stands out from what I usually expect on FimFic and I'd hapilly recommend it if you're looking for some mild, uneasy chills.
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Could you recommend me your favourite romance stories?
It doesn't really matter the pairing, I just want to read the best romantic stories you know.
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>>27689796
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/41313/mood-wings
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/84903/twice-as-bright
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/18087/the-best-night-ever kind of?
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3479/the-games-we-play
There wass this one Ben 10 fanfic I've read a long time ago which was REALLY good. I wish I could find it again.
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>>27689796
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/9894/my-little-unicorn-magic-is-believing
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>>27689918
>There wass this one Ben 10 fanfic I've read a long time ago which was REALLY good. I wish I could find it again.
Did it ship Ben and Gwen?
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>>27690189
Obviously.
It was really good though. Like, they actually slowly developed feeling for each other for a reason.
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>>27690438
Awesome.
That show went off the rails really fast, but I'm fond of what I remember.
I had a good laugh when I found out that in early planning stages, Gwen was supposed to be Ben's classmate who had a crush on him and had agreed to go on a trip with him because she just lusted for the D that hard.
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>>27690475
Ah, I forgot to spoiler it.
Eh, whatever. If you ever remember what story it was, let me know.
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>>27690475
I actually watched every Ben 10 cartoon and know like all of the lore, which is pretty embarassing. I like the show though, wonder how the new reboot will turn out. Probably shit.

In the early planning stages, the show looked like this. Grandpa Max could shoot lasers out of his nostrils.

Also, I just found the fic thanks to TVTropes. Don't get your hopes up though, cause I said, I've read it a long time ago, and I have no idea if it's actually good. At least it was much better than the other ones I've read at the time.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8440324/1/Little-Moments


mods pls no ban
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>>27690512
Ooooooooh... Director's Cut. Sounds promising.

I'll give it a read sometime next week, it'd be a nice change of pace.

>new reboot
Oh, yeah. They had several of those. /co/ tells me they're all terrible.
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>>27690561
>They had several of those
You mean the series? They've all been sequels. Pretty alright, too, even according to /co/.
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>>27690617
Huh, I must have gone there on a sour day, then...
Either way, the sequels never caught my eye, even more so when they redesigned Gwen.
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>>27690633
Well, they're a love it or hate it sort of a deal. Alien Force and Ultimate Alien are more serious takes on the series, while Omniverse tried to go back to being less serious, just like the original series, but went too far in the other direction. People who were working on it really cared about the universe though, and focused heavily on the lore.
The artstyle was garbage, though.
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>>27689796
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/7531/eyes-on-you
I'll never not recommend this.
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>>27679479
10 minutes of screentime is alright tho

>inb4 indigofag gb2 /nigger/
>there are only 90 minutes in the film
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>>27691896
screentime as in her appearing anywhere at all
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>>27691900
oh
i didn't watch it so i'll fuck off
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>>27679474

>no hooves
>and no screen time either
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bump
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>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/317740/silver-glows-journal
Okay, I know there's some other anons here reading this shit. So, does anyone have a theory as to how Silver is going to explain herself once the shit hits the fan?


Basically, if she doesn't think Aric/Meghan would be upset if they knew what she was doing with Meghan/Aric, why hasn't she mentioned it to either of them?
And if she does think they'd be mad, why has she shown no sign of remorse in anything written so far?


I'm normally a fan of Biscuit's stuff, but I honestly don't see how he plans to resolve this without some blatant ass-pull.
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Has anyone read http://www.fimfiction.net/story/258497/shifting-melodies? It was at around 500k words when I first found it, but now it's over 1 million. The premise looks okay and I've seen it recommended before, but I'd like a second opinion before I dive into something that'll probably be twice as long as War and Peace by the time it's done.
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>>27693150
>I honestly don't see how he plans to resolve this

Its one of those chapter-a-day fics. I'm fairly positive hes not planning anything beyond todays handful of paragraphs. the same as everyone else doing a chapter-a-day collection of words
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Okay guys. I'm gonna need the most popular or successful Changeling-centric fics, and/or a comprehensive list of clichés surrounding Changelings. Don't ask why. It's probably easy to guess anyway.
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>>27694102
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/87718/a-novel-tale
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/74014/body-and-mind
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/26192/mendacity
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/60491/an-affliction-of-the-hearthttp://www.fimfiction.net/story/22618/flitter
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/25149/thrown-abroad

too lazy to bang out a list of changeling cliches, but heres most of the top relevant fics
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Keeping it Simple
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3513/keeping-it-simple
261k words [E] [Comedy] [SoL]

After a noodle incident involving the mane 6 and a runaway apple cart, big Mac is injured and unable to work. AJ takes over on the farm and Mac is forced to figure out how to have a life that doesn't revolve around Sweet Apple Acres.

This one took me forever to finish. Being slice of life, there isn't much of a plot beyond "Big Mac is forced to spend time with his sisters' friends". Its tagged comedy, but the truth of the matter is this was one of the most depressing fics I've ever read. The story of a guy forced to drop out of elementary school to work a farm all day every day just to save his home from his own family (who are all a bunch of assholes) until he eventually gets kicked off his farm by his own sister. He's got zero control of his life, being forced into things and not having the balls to say no. And Mactavia has got to be one of the strangest forced ships I've seen yet.

If you're looking for a light hearted fun story, run away. If you want to be depressed about a terse doormat being a terse doormat then this one is for you
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So is DoaM actually worth reading? I've heard some people praise it and others call it piss.
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>>27695159
its better than average as far as HiEs go, but thats not really saying much

Its pretty much your standard wangsty, genre savvy, emoteen clone/puppet gets sucked into equestria by twilight fucking up a spell via discord whos attempting to commit suicide because hes a billion years old and bored but emopuppet gets sidetracked by fucking everyone/thing after getting raped by pinkie and rara (though that bit may have gotten retconned during the rewrite)

The quality fluctuates quite a bit depending on the arc in question. some parts are pretty decent, others are pants on head retarded. parts are fun, while others are spoopy

If HiE is your thing then its worth a read through. If youre not big on AiE/HiE then dont waste your time. God knows I've dropped worse things than DoaM and there must be a reason why I've stuck with it for this long
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>>27688363
>This story has nothing to do with the Holocaust

Then don't title it "Final Solution," you sperg!
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>>27694951
I`m two-thirds of the way through that story, and I have to agree with that assessment, though I'm actually enjoying the Mactavia because Octavia is one of the few characters who doesn't claim to be trying to help Big Mac.

This story actually reminds me a bit of Cadence in a Minor. The story was originally tagged comedy, and the author seemed to think he was writing comedy, but it was actually a story about Shining Armor and Cadance's marriage falling apart due to their PTSD from the Canterlot Wedding. Not a bad story (other than the ending), but definitely not what I signed up for.
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Update on this story I reviewed last thread (>>27668751):

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/279271/new-beginnings
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/306592/normal-life
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/332488/consequences

As I said before, the first story "New Beginnings" is pretty good, as far as HiE/Luna shipfics go. But now that I've read the sequels, the gradual power creep that started at the end of book 1 has continued throughout, and it's starting to get a bit out of hand.

Book 1: got a job; made some friends; started dating Luna; singlehandedly saved the entire changeling species
Book 2: became one of only two trained unicorn war mages in the world; singlehandedly saved the entire changeling species, again; near-singlehandedly captured Sunset Shimmer, and recovered the crown
Book 3: learned dreamwalking, and started hunting Night Terrors; discovered that he can use dark magic without getting addicted due to his human background

Plus, he keeps getting better at unicorn magic, with seemingly no upper limit. As of the latest chapter of book 3, he's currently trying to learn the butterfly-wing spell, which Twilight was barely able to cast in Sonic Rainboom.

Overall, I can't really recommend the sequels. The series seems to be headed in the usual direction (toward "overpowered OC saves the world"), it's just taking its time getting there.
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>>27695619
yeah but Octavia is such a cunt in this one. Shes literally the closest thing to a villain in the story and the absolute worst possible person involved

Even Bluebro comes off as a decent character in comparison
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>>27695802
I read the first two after the second one ended, so ts within the last 3-4 months. And I remember very little of that.

Its literally that forgettable. But its a story of a human that turned into a micro horse and proceeded to bed a goddess, so its pretty much expected to be crap
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What is the greatest AiE romance you know? it can be a list if you have more. I just finished some sad ones and im hooked. Not to the sad part but if the end is good im into it.
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>>27695852
exchange.

greatest AiE without question, hands down
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>>27695862
well until a competitor comes around ill have to check this one out i guess.
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>>27695891
>until a competitor comes out
>for a good AiE fic
You'll be waiting a looooong time.
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>>27696018
yeah. exchange is essentially the only AiE worth reading, sorry.
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>>27696036
now im afraid to read it. i have been reading smaller ones with around 10-20k words and really enjoyed them. if you say exchange is the only one worth reading i might not enjoy the short ones after :(
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>>27696105
Don't worry, if you enjoyed those, then your taste is shit enough to still like them afterwards.
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>>27696160
uhm, thanks?
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>>27696326
hes right you know. AiE is the genre that HiE aficionados look down on. The only thing beneath you is anthro
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>>27696367
well i rather read about Anon than some edgelord emo guy grunting about how his dad does not appreciate inuyasha then hanging himself waking up in equestria. Anyway i just started reafing fics so i dont know what else i might like.
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well thats very convenient. I've never dropped a fic in the first chapter before.

Generally shitty fics will start off mediocre to lull you into a false sense of security before becoming crapfests.

Shitty horsewords need to start starting off shitty so that we dont waste any more effort in attempting to read them than necessary.

thank you, strawberry gamer, for not wasting more than 5 minutes of my time
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>>27696421
I already hate the first paragraph.
I feel like the authour is just a kid who doesn't really have his own style yet and tries to rip off someone else, failing miserably.
Source: I used to write like that
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>>27696509
>I already hate the first paragraph.
yeah it was a rough start. But then many writers falter a bit until they find their stride. This shitsack has a sequel now, so maybe this kid has figured out something that works.

But I'll never know. Terrible style followed by non-ironically trolololing is an unequivocal dealbreaker
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>>27696421
>Because. I'm a Troll. Trolololol.
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/331407/swallow-the-moon
Rate. Be gentle.
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somebody tell me to go here to post my story after saying it was a shit

please read and upvote.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/319699/1/where-is-your-dude-tonight/i-hope-he-is-a-gentleman
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>>27696757
It's not awful. The writing is a bit clumsly, you repeat yourself a bit, you lay it on pretty thick, and the exposition feels a bit longer than it should.
If this were a video-game cutscene, I'd skip it halfway through.

There are many small but noticeable mistakes. I'll skip over the grammatical mistakes because I'm neither a native english speaker nor a grammar nazi, but you do surprising things like calling the moon a star. Of course I won't need to tell you that it isn't one, but hen I have to re-read a sentence a couple times to make sure I haven't gone crazy, it kinda breaks immersion.

But let's ignore all of that, the way you write Celestia is interesting. I'd imagine with her thousand of years of experience she would have a little bit of a more elaborate reaction to her sister – Princess of the Night and ruler of Equestria – disappearing than waiting several days doing nothing and sighting when she doesn't magically come back.
I'm not a tactical genius, but when your highest ranking leader and family member disappears you don't wait two weeks to start investigating.

Overall and as always, I didn't even finish the first chapter, so my comment is worthless and feel free to disregard it.
All the best,
anon
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>>27697107
Before I even read your story, I'm going to stop you with that second part.
>Please read and upvote
>Upvote
If your story gets upvotes, it's because the story is good, not because you asked for them. The request for them will do nothing but hurt you here, it makes you sound too desperate and less like you want to write a good story but more like you just want praise. People will shit all over you for it. Just something to bear in mind. I'll give it a read real quick and see what thoughts I have.
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>>27697107
>please read and upvote.
Welcome to 4chan, I guess.
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>>27697168
Thanks anyway, Anon.
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>>27697234
Well, that's a little too harsh. At least give him some feedback.
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>>27697289
People would if only he was a human. But no all I see is a sub-human trash.

Good day and another downvote from another anon.: ^)
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>>27697331
Not even him. But your edge is on point, Anon, I'm sure you must have a lot of /b/ cred on this super dark, dangerous and scary website only for the toughest shitposters on the Internet.
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>>27697289
My feedback is, don't come here like a little bitch posting something that you're pretty sure is shit, and then expecting people to not only read it but upvote it regardless.

Be nice and I'll be nice. I read a couple sentences from being linked into the first chapter instead of the description, and I didn't like what I saw, that and the painful lack of basic internet decency is enough for me to keep my downvote.

If the story is geniunely good, one downvote will not stop people from reading it. But maybe it'll stop that guy from acting like a bitch.
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>>27697234
>voting at all
He probably just posted someone else's fic to bait people into downvoting it.
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>>27697107
I just finished your first chapter and there are substantial issues. While this isn't even in the top 20 worst fics I've read I've got a hobby of trying to give myself cancer via fanfiction It isn't really good. Let's talk the overall problems:
>Pacing
This is the biggest one. The plot feels as if it's on fast forward. Don't panic about this, many people's early attempts at writing are rushed. The relationship between them isn't given enough time to develop and feel natural to the reader.
How do you fix that? Spend more time developing the relationship between them. The "fallen head over heels on first sight" thing generally doesn't play very well in writing a standard love story
>Characterization
This one isn't the best, your characters feel like they've been assigned one or two attributes and that's it. This one is a harder thing to get right and it takes a ton of practice. Making good characters is probably the single most important skill when writing fiction. A lot of people will continue to read a story that has a bland plot or setting if the characters are interesting enough.
To fix this one is a bit harder. I can't just say "develop your characters more" because that's like saying in order to fix this problem you have to fix this problem. There are a couple links to tutorials and such at the top of the page, I'd say you should check those out for sure. Hopefully I've been at least a little helpful.
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>>27697356
If so I'll be happy to be part of his 3-shitposters-and-a-half strong personnal army, because from what little I saw that story has little going for it.
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>>27697240
I started writing a thousand chars about how you shouldn't give up and everyone starts out not so great, especially me, then it turned into a blog post.
Point is, don't give up. It looks like you give a shit and that means you'll get good.
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>>27697345
Considering his last story, I don't even know if we can save him.
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>>27697398
>Cancelled
Always a silver lining.
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>>27697398
Anon, have you ever made a mistake? He came here when somebody told him to. It's clear that he wants to get better. With some work he can actually get better.
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>>27697398
Oh.
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>>27697411
>It's clear that he wants to get better.
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>>27697390
i wish i could continue writing but every time i would start again i read the first fic i wrote with myself in it. It was so cringe i literally have to stop and skip parts because i just cant take it. (it contains a romantic moment with humanised fluttershy, it was wriitten way before EG so that helps a bit, a long detailed story about how equestria is a matriarchal society, and me using a rasengan, and it was only like 5k words! i have no idea how it turned so bad)
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>>27697427
He was told he was shit. People told him that he should come here to get advice on how to get better. He actually came here. Yeah, he fucked up on asking for upvotes, but he actually came and asked for help. Most people really wouldn't do that.
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>>27697461
I actually posted it and after seeing Autie's comment and pretended I was him, anon.

I could PM him right away if you want.
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>>27697429
>i wish i could continue writing but every time i would start again i read the first fic i wrote with myself in it
That is literally how everyone started.
I've always wanted to learn how to draw because I have zero artistic talent. Yersterday I tried drawing random shit around me to practice, and the result looks like a disabled child has a stroke and makes me want to stab my eyes in out of shame. I'd probably be b& for trolling if I posted that to /ic/.

But that sure as fuck isn't going to stop me because as long as you give a shit, you'll get better. The proof of that is that everything you did before is usually worse than what you're doing now, so you should keep going. That, and because it's fun.
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>>27697466
Man, I wish I could just force myself to give a shit. I really enjoy writing, but it's so hard for me to start something new.
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>>27697461
If the author posts here and geniunely wants help, I'll be happy to be helpful. Until then, I'll avoid wasting my time.
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>>27697465
Well shit, I posted that long wall of text about pacing and characters for nothing. Meh. Kept me busy for a few minutes so that I didn't have to think about who I am and what I do with my life.
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>>27697499
I can always send it to Ytterbius for some tips.

Doing it right away actually, gonna give you guys the response when I get it.
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>>27697499
>Kept me busy for a few minutes so that I didn't have to think about who I am and what I do with my life.
Life has no meaning. Success is subjective. If horse words make you happy, keep on keeping on.
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>>27697513
Problem solved. Thanks Anon.
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>>27697545
You're welcome.
For that bit of cheap half assed pseudo-hedonism, that'll be one link to the best story you've read this year please.
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>>27697568
I just got around to reading this one. Holy goddamn shit, it destroyed me.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/19198/background-pony
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>>27697581
Aw man and I read that two years ago!
But thanks anyways, maybe I'll get around to reading it again.
People may call it overrated, but it gave me legit chills and I think it deserves all the praise it got.

Now if only every SS&E story was like this...
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>>27697603
Yeah. He's a bit hit or miss. I actually liked End of Ponies when I read it. I'm not sure if it's as good as I remember though.
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>>27697620
I liked end of ponies too, and it was consistently pretty good, but after half a million words it felt like it was going for half a million more of the same without really anything new. I had started to read the next unreleased/cancelled act but I gave up because that would just be delaying the innevitable.

I think it might have turned into another DoaM has it not stopped, there's always more to read and at no exact point does it really turn bad, but eventually you realise that maybe you should stop.
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>>27697641
>there's always more to read and at no exact point does it really turn bad, but eventually you realise that maybe you should stop.
Huh, I finally found a way to describe why I dropped Austraeoh.
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>oh, i better get around to finishing that wai wai riff
>i haven't touched this for a year and a half
>perhaps i should write up a quick recap of everything that has happened so far, in case anyone wants to tag along
>just a small one though
>maybe make it a bit longer, i can't expect anyone to remember anything about this
I've written 2800 words and I'm still not done. Send help.
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>>27698308
>Cilestia
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>>27698318
You haven't seen anything, Anon. I've read 26 chapters of this thing.
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>>27698329
What shit is this
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>>27698340
You've never read the wai wai riff?
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>>27698329
>and don't try to escape, there is no escape for you
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>>27698340
I take it you weren't here back in 2014, when I posted about this. Or you just ignored it, which is probably the sane man's choice.

Basically it's a horrible story written by some Kraut. It's real bad, and I used to read it, post commented excerpts, and make fun of it. Something something insecurity.
Being a sad human being, I'm coming back to it now. At least for a chapter or two.
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>>27698357
You can pull up any chapter, jump to a random spot, and you're basically guaranteed to find something really fucking dumb.

Here's a favourite moment. The main character stabs Celestia because he's kind of upset.
It never has any consequences for anyone involved, and is never brought up again.
It's the "I definitely have breast cancer" moment of this fic.
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>>27698329
>Applejack asked a question
>"You right everypony"
I think he lost track of his own story somewhere between those two lines of dialogue.
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>>27698668
Wait, when the fuck did I attach that picture
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>>27698414
>The princess got abort.
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Where can I find wai-wai itself? I've read all of the riff up on the pastebin. I need more.
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>>27698905
I think Andre nuked the story.
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>>27698905
Andre blew himself up, taking all his stories with him, sometime back in 2015. But he had deleted wai-wai long before that.
Rest in peace, my sweet prince.

I'm only able to continue my riff because I already had time to memorise the entire story, and by invoking his spirit with my dark magic.

Also I have a backup. Want it?
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>>27698971
Yes. I need this in my life. Anon, I'm so happy right now.
Did andre throw a shit fit when he blew himself up?
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>>27699138
Andre's FimFiction career ended not with a shitfit, but a shitwhimper.
As for waiwai, he seemed to come to some sudden dislike of the story, despite the fact that none of his newer stories were any better. I tried to talk him into keeping it, but it couldn't be helped.
Also, it was some other Anon who got these backups for me. So he's to thank/blame for all of this.
Anyway, here's the backup:
https://a.cuntflaps.me/djmqqk.7z

I have various other Andre texts in the vault, but they're not something I've ever really looked at.
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>>27699357
I'm probably going to regret this. The cringe thread just isn't doing it for me right now.
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I wish more stories were about John. I liked John.
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>>27699507
Friendly reminder than John is directly responsible for the death of the human species.
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>>27699525
A noble endeavor if I ever knew one.
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>>27699525
He made the AI that nuked us. That is indirect responsibility. Now, when he could have gone back and didn't, he became responsible for us staying dead but it's okay. He did it for DASHI.
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>>27696414
>i dont know what else i might like.

Humans were never supposed to be a part of Equestria per Faust's show bible, so maybe skip HiE and AiE to start with?
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>>27699638
Going by fausts wants, most of our tags shouldnt exist. horror? thriller? gore? sex? anthro? crossover? dark? sad? drama? EqG?

fausts bible done got thrown out years ago, so not really a valid argument.
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>>27699638
I don't think you know the purpose of fanfiction.
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>>27699743
>"I set Faust's Bible down once we crossed the river of Season 2, Anon. Why are you still carrying it?"
>And suddenly Anon achieved enlightenment.
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How do you guys r8 this one? It's updating pretty slowly but I really like it so far.
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>>27699940
That's mighty euphoric of you there, anon
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>>27698905
If you download the fimfarchive, you can probably find the fic there. IIRC it doesn't remove any deleted fics.
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>>27696757
>name of the author is the same as the name of the organization in the fic
Instant fucking nope. It is slightly better than having a character named after yourself, but since the latter is a 100% guaranteed sign of a self-insert, you're not likely to get much charity for it.

>>27697107
>chapter link
>not even trying to pretend it's not his fic
>nobody calls him on it
Do I have to do everything around here?
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/319699/where-is-your-dude-tonight
At least the 0:10 vote ratio should counteract any benefit the free views might have given it.

>>27697568
>one link to the best story you've read this year please
Gonna go with "most promising story I started reading this year"
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/274900/a-sparkle-ling-perfection
Seems like it's going to be pretty cool, too bad the author updates so slowly.

>>27698318
>Cantelot
>they KNOW what HAPPENDED

>>27699357
>So he's to thank/blame for all of this.
You're welcome/I'm sorry

>>27700141
>euphoric
>in reference to a religious parable
I don't think you understand that meme.
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>>27700141
Pls anon, I seek to attain the Brahma-loka, don't be a Narakasattva.
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>>27680271
I get around 500 new notifications a day.
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>>27700163
unfortunately the epubs in the archive stripped out all of the embedded shit and waiwai just isnt the same without the colluhdoody cutscene screencaps

>>27700358
are you tracking everything or one of those tards who follows everyone?
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>>27694102
>clichés surrounding Changelings
>hivemind
>they're insects
>Bon Bon's a changeling
>one of the M6 is one and gets revealed during the love explosion in ACW
>Chrysalis is the "mother" of all the changelings
>a changeling crashes in a forest and is raised by OCs
>a changeling gets into wacky/serious hijinks in a big city while struggling not to be revealed
>x is transformed into a changeling, body horror ensues
>Chrysalis wins and creates the Matrix to suck all the love out of ponies
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/331514/rip-and-tear
Rate for me.
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>>27702045
>Rate for me
>doom crossover
subpar.
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>>27702045

No, John, you are the ponies.
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>>27700096
Never heard of it
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How is there still no fic about Cranky's adventures around Equestria and how he met Steven Magnet and thet changeling that came to his wedding?
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>>27702454
because only a braindead autist would bother trying to use anything from that episode as the basis for a story
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>>27702492
Because you didn't like it? Doesn't change the fact it's canon.
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>>27702496
Doesn't change the fact it's autistic shit.

There's so much more to be elaborated on in SoL, but the changeling is but a minor event that didn't have any effect at all.
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>>27702492
>i don't like thing
>therefore it is autistic
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>>27702700
>but the changeling is but a minor event that didn't have any effect at all.
It implies he's Cranky's friend, which means no hivemind and that changelings are allowed to live in Equestria.
It'd also be interesting to know how they've met.
The relationship between Cranky and Steven, as well as Cranky and the changeling is likely the most interesting thing SoL has given us. Certainly one with the most potential.
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>>27702703
He's probably from /v/. "Autistic" in this context doesn't even mean anything.
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>>27702703
Look, we had much more to write about than that.

>Bon Bon is a secret asian
>Time Turner is a physician
>Octavia and DJPon3 live together
>But no, let's write about something appearing for two seconds onscreen.

>>27702707
>Implies he's Cranky's friend

It also implies everyone is friend to what was an antisocial aspie, including Shining Armor, Luna, Celestia and Cadence, and that they didn't just come for Twilight.

You can agree Celestia knows about Cranky's lesson on friendship, but it still is something for three of the country's greatest leaders to come to a wedding in a small town of no more than a thousand souls. Unless Twilight herself asked them to spare some time for it, I doubt they would go there when they have so much to do.
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>>27702715
I dunno, Anon. I don't quite like you, so you're probably autistic.
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>>27702719
What tells you I'm not?
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>>27702715
>Unless Twilight herself asked them to spare some time for it, I doubt they would go there when they have so much to do.
I'm glad you have insider knowledge on exactly what Cranky did when wandering Equestria his entire life.
Come on, Anon. Imagine an adventure fic about a grumpy donkey wandering the world in search of the love of his life, meeting new people and creatures and getting involved in adventures he doesn't want to get involved in. If that doesn't sound like something with a lot of potential to you, then you might have a serious case of nofunallowed.

I forgot about Bon Bon being a secret agent, though, that has a lot of potential as well.
But fic #19225 about Time Turner or fic #2985298509235 about Octavia and Vinyl living together are really boring.
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>>27702733
That's actually interesting.

Hoofhicker's guide to Equestria?
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>>27702736
*Hoofhiker

My bad.
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>>27702736
Hooflicker's*
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>>27702454

I thought about it, but there are other things I'd rather be failing to write.

My head-canon has him as a 007 style secret agent for Celestia in his youth. Matilda was an agent for a rival power; they crossed paths, crossed one another, and generally put duty before romance.

Steven would be... I don't know. Probably not another agent, but likely a skilled friend (or maybe just a noisy distraction. Unwitting comedy relief sidekick, perhaps) who picks him up whenever Matilda saves his life, but steals his microfilm and disappears.
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>>27702805
>My head-canon has him as a 007 style secret agent for Celestia in his youth. Matilda was an agent for a rival power; they crossed paths, crossed one another, and generally put duty before romance.

The show literally shows them kissing at the gala and Matilda giving him her address.
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>>27702820

Handwave, handwave, handwave, it's fine. It can be worked around...
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>>27702760
Hooklickers guide to equestria sounds more like a subs kinky romp through the country
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>>27702980

>Although the custom of kissing a mare's hoof upon greeting her has long since fallen from Canterlot society, the mares of Mistress Rosehoof's Night Academy (453 Stirrup Row) are well-prepared to instruct the errant stallion in the proper manner of servicing the hooves of his betters. 100bits/1 hr session, additional subjects of study and remedial lessons by arrangement. Rating: 4/4 horseshoes.
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>>27702980
Lick the hooves of important person so they give you free food, a place to live and some stuff. Repeat, and travel all Equestria with it.
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>>27703837
Oh wait, fuck me. It helps when I actually save changes.
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>>27703837
“Have some UTF8 quotes just in case”
— Anonymous
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Knighty if you see this, can we get a way to know the date when we read a story/chapter, or on what day it was added to a bookshelf?

Since you can sort things by "date added" I guess you might have that info somewhere.
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>>27702715
>Bon Bon is a secret asian
>Bon Bon is an expert in martial arts learned through her infancy living in Chineighse slums until a secret Equestrian organization recruited her.
If it was written in the style of 70's kung-fu exploitation movies, I'd read it.
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>>27704394
ugh. no
I've seen waaaaaaaay too many fics written by weebs involving neighponese mouth katana blademasters to ever permit anyone to write about far eastern ponies, ironically or otherwise
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>>27704603
ok
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>>27704394
Secret agent, which Asian is a pun for.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPA5gQ54vAA&feature=youtu.be
More bleeding whetever fuck

What Goes Up soon.
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>>27704674
FUCKING FINALLY

imma creaming my pants.
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>>27704674
Holy shit, you're alive!
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>>27704702
>>27704703
I thought I was dead too

I certainly felt it inside a few times. But then I realized I can't die yet, I have commissions to finish and Kingdom Hearts 3 to play
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>>27704719
Keep it up, Vg.
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Hi, can i get some feedback on my story idea? I did not start writing yet, i just have some characters, scenes, plots and i might get them into one but im nervous. It sounds good in my head but i would like to know what you think.

So i guess it would be a HiE story with humanised characters since im not really into the horse aspect as much as their personality. I would write about a guy who gets into an alternate equestria. I have a lot of small conflicts in line but the main problem would be he could go home anytime and everybody else wants him to leave too but he does not want. He just want to stick around and help them doing epic quests. Real life is okay but a world with magic, strange interesting creatures and exciting places sounds way better than coming home.

I wanted to give him some advantage to have. Some powers and i tought about what superpower would be not so owerpowered but a little interesting twist to their already magic and fighting filled world. Its music. I dont want to tell how but he would gain the ability (or mental disorder) to sync the real world to music only he hears. Others wont notice it but for him its like hearing a song you listened to long ago. You dont really know what will happen but in the back of your mind you know something will happen and you can use this. Predicting the movement of others, finding the best moment to start your offense or shift to defense by listening to the change of rythm. Im not sure i will be able to give it back in words what i have in vision. I dont plany any romantic or sexual parts but i dont know, maybe if it comes naturally. I dont want people to hink its a shipfic with my waifu. Soo what do you think?
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>>27705243
>HiE

Stopped reading there.

> but the main problem would be he could go home anytime and everybody else wants him to leave too but he does not want.

Then he's just a dick. He should leave asap.

>Random human comes in
>Boom powers

U wot

Why don't you just make him an omniscient narrator while you're at it? He gets a superpower with no disadvantage at all, and that power makes him pretty invulnerable.

I have a character who has a similar power of omniscience over events, but he paid it off by being in a coma for a few years, due to the ridiculous amount of information he had to manage coupled with extremely bad short-term memory, and even then I consider him OP. Yours just comes in, has random powers with no drawback and is hated by everyone somehow.

I'd say this is bumping b8.
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>>27700195
>Gonna go with "most promising story I started reading this year"
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/274900/a-sparkle-ling-perfection
Yep, it's pretty damn good, can't wait for more.

>Seems like it's going to be pretty cool, too bad the author updates so slowly.
Aaand fuck. I guess if the author is consistent we're due for two chapters sometime next month.
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>>27705243
>I have a lot of small conflicts in line but the main problem would be he could go home anytime and everybody else wants him to leave too but he does not want.
He just want to stick around and help them doing epic quests.
Sounds like the kind of character that you generally don't identify with because he's kind of an asshole and nobody really wants him to be here, anyways.

>Real life is okay but a world with magic, strange interesting creatures and exciting places sounds way better than coming home.
That doesn't sound great, it's getting awfully close to looking like a self insert. Your life sucks while pastel pony Equestria is a literal utopia, we know. It's been done to death and then some.
Do not do that.

>I wanted to give him some advantage to have. Some powers and i tought about what superpower would be not so owerpowered but a little interesting twist to their already magic and fighting filled world.
Bzzt, wrong answer. When your obvious self insert ALSO gets special superhero bullshit powers, then you're hapilly crossing several bright red flashing lines in the sand.
It pretty much couldn't get any worse without into gratuitous wish fullfilment sex.

>I dont plany any romantic or sexual parts but i dont know, maybe if it comes naturally.
And that's a bingo!
Your "idea" is the caricature of what not to do and the reason nobody takes Human in Equestria stories seriously anymore.
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>>27705365
>Stopped reading there
you write awfully lot about what you did not read
>Then he's just a dick. He should leave asap.
yes he should he is in danger for no reason other than excitement
>>Random human comes in
>>Boom powers
just because i did not specif how he gets the power does not mean its just "boom" deus ex machina
>power makes him pretty invulnerable
Would if he had any power at all over that. No talent in magic, never used weapons before and have no idea how to use magic. This basically is only enough to keep him barely alive and out of the way of others.
>ridiculous amount of information he had to manage
he have no idea what will happen he just heas the music and assumes something will happend. Where will it come from or how will it affect him or his surroundings are unknown to him.
>hated by everyone
Who said he is hated? They just worry that a human with seemingly no powers other than sheer luck keep sticking around and they just want him out of danger.
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>>27705609
It's bait, but I'm bored. I'll bite.

>I'm in danger in this magical land I know nothing of and where everyone wants me to fuck off
>Hey I'll stay! I'm not a dick at all

>Do not specify how he got those

The how did he? Why didn't you say so in your post?

>Hey, I can feel what my opponent will do before he does it
>Not OP at all!

The pony I'm talking about has the same ability as this, and he has almost literally become a god since no one can even touch him. He just feels anything that will happen, and thus can counter anything.

>They just worry that a human with seemingly no powers other than sheer luck keep sticking around and they just want him out of danger.

Then they wouldn't want him to leave you dumbshit. They would shelter him, not tell him to fuck off from Equestria.
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>>27705641
>>27705578
>>27705365
i feel like you exaggerate it a bit but i get what you say.
I did not want to go into a 5k word explanation what were the limits of his powers but i guess i will need to during some point of the story or it might be confusing.
I will have to rethink some aspects of his motives and the reation of others but i think when its not so compated it will make more sense.
I dont know whats wrong with HiE and i can only guess why you dont like self inserting. If even the writer cant identify with the protagonist then who will?
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>>27705834
>I dont know whats wrong with HiE and i can only guess why you dont like self inserting. If even the writer cant identify with the protagonist then who will?
If you go talk to your friends and try to spend an hour telling them how you're awesome and your life is great and everything goes perfectly well for you, they'll wonder what is wrong with you, get bored 30 seconds in and ignore you.

Well turns out if you write a self insert story about how the main character is awesome, has all these OP suporpowers and gets all that sweet pony plot living the dream in Equestria, people will get bored out of their minds a thousand words in and they'll go waste their time somewhere else.

Nobody gives a shit about you, and nobody wants to read your self insert wish fullfillment.
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>>27705834
>>27705905
This really. Your life is worthless, no one will like it, and if you create the main character so that specifically you can relate to it, no one else will.

Everyone is supposed to relate to the character. The larger he is, the more fans. The thinner he is, like a specific self-insert, the less will like it.
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>>27705243
>a HiE story with humanised characters since im not really into the horse aspect as much as their personality
>I wanted to give him some advantage to have. Some powers and i tought about what superpower would be not so owerpowered but a little interesting twist to their already magic and fighting filled world. Its music. I dont want to tell how but he would gain the ability (or mental disorder) to sync the real world to music only he hears.
>Predicting the movement of others, finding the best moment to start your offense or shift to defense by listening to the change of rythm.
Be honest. You've been diagnosed with autism.
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>>27705243
Hello, Olli.
You might want to ask other communities about this, like FimFiction, Ponychan, or reddit.

Good luck.
- Anon
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>>27705905
>>27705973
>>27706103
I should really stop this conversation but i wanted to finish what i started. You basically just took every word i wrote to the extreme. Is it because of the masses of fics you described? "spend an hour telling them how you're awesome" Yes that must be boring, a story with no hardships, challanges, but wishfullfillment is awful. But were my idea really that bad or you just filed the holes i did not explain with what bad experience you have? I just tried to paint a concept but you filled it with assumptions, corrupted by the years of reading clopfics. (>gets all that sweet pony plot What pony plot? i said no romance or ponies) What happened to you that made yout his sour and angry? I said i did not want my charater to be the saviour of all living, just a guy wanting to have fun. You automatically tought it will be a godlike asshole with power of a thousand suns.
I can salvage some useful feedback from that but i guess its the wrong place to ask for guidance when every response i get is tainted with supressed hatred.
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>>27705973
>The larger he is, the more fans
Personally I have a hard time relating to fat people.
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>>27706143
thanks i will
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>>27706154
>You basically just took every word i wrote to the extreme.
Trust me, I didn't. I've just seen the exact same thing in autistic animu fanfics countless times.
It could be a good fic if you're an incredible writer who can really turn those cliches into a work of art, but it seems you have pretty big grammar problems and difficulties with explaining your ideas.

>>27706182
Nice one, Anon.
You forgot the name field.
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>>27706160
Large as in a broad, general personality. The more specific his personality, the less people can relate.

>>27706154

The only assumptions we have are the ones gained by reading stories like yours.

Oh, do you want the Fimfic view?

You story is perfect, very interesting, would read.

Happy?
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>>27706193
i will not use this name again here
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>>27706204
Just realise we're not being hard on you because we hate you or anything. It's just that the story your pitching is painfully similar to a large amount of downright terrible HiE stories.
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>>27706193
Is there any excuse for bad grammar?

Even a native French speaker such as Autie has a grasp of English grammar.

>>27706225
He's right too. If you want to write, start with small stories such as SoL, not epic adventures. It will make you gain much experience.
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>>27706225
We could probably grow to hate him. I mean, if we really tried, we should be perfectly capable of that.
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>>27706241
Why should we, unless he does shit? If he executes his idea well, I have no reason to hate him.

If he does bad I will shit on him though.
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>>27706252
Perhaps I'm just in a hatin' mood?
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>>27706266
Haters gon' hate I guess.
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>>27706199
a bit better
>>27706233
and yes thats part of the reason im not writing it yet. Im still a student. I cant speak english well enough to make it as good as i could. Mistakes like those i made in my original post could ruin the whole. And translating directly from my language would not work either.
>>27706241
i dont doubt :)
>>27706252
i wont execute it. or not yet and not in this form. I might just practice with some greentext. Maybe i skip the whole superpower stuff and just write "dick anon wont go home" stories and make it a comedy
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>>27706282
>translating directly
Are you, by any chance, German?
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>>27706282
>Im still a student

No excuse. I'm an university student, and I have perfect grasp of French, English, Spanish and can speak Mandarin. Unless you're an underage, in which case enjoy your ban.

Also, your original post was full of errors, but your other posts were too, hence us hating. Come on, you have a corrector integrated in your browser, use it.

>Greentext

pls no
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>>27706282
not even close, its a Finno-Ugric language in a sea of Indo-European, Hungarian by the way
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>>27706320
finngolian pls leave
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>>27706310
And when did you start learnig english? I started it 2 years ago. Its not that bad.
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>>27706349
We have mandatory English classes from Elementary 1 and up, and I stopped in CÉGEP, so about 11 years of English.

That's in a place where 95% of the people have French as their main language.
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I don't get people who favorite your fic but don't upvote it. Yes, the facebook buttons are bullshit, but they're the ones that show up to tell people if your fic is shit or not.
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>>27706404
>I don't get people who favorite your fic but don't upvote it.
Yeah, that drives me nuts as well.
Hell, even if you thought the story was bad and you're favouriting for the sake of it, at least downvote it. I can't understand why people fave but don't vote.
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>>27706233
>Is there any excuse for bad grammar?
Absolutely not. I know me and Autismo have a pretty good understanding of English grammar despite not being native English speakers. The people who don't are honestly just idiots.
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>>27706370
well i live in a shithole ghetto where you were lucky to know how to fkin read in elementary 1. The first time i got a real class in english were in the second year of high school. before that i only saw english text in computer games. My parets did not give a shit. Now i work and have some free time to improve it maybe. Ill ask a teacher at the uni whats wrong with my grammar.
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>>27706426
thats "Autismo and i have a pretty good understanding of English grammar"
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>>27706282
Just remember, greentext really doesn't translate to prose well. It's a very simplistic medium.
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>>27706459
Well, hey, I didn't say a perfect understanding, did I?
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>>27706404
>>27706419
Some people still use favourites as their read later lists.
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>>27706445
I'm a first generation Chinese immigrant. My parent lived in a three room apartment made for one person at most. We moved into another slightly larger apartment at the age of five.

We had mandatory English courses, which I sucked at, so I went in remediation from 1st grade to 2nd. I had a basic facebook speech understanding of English at the end of my elementary.

The, I got online, and taught myself English with websites and forums. By Secondary second, I was one of the top students in English in my school. By sec 4, people thought I was anglophone.

You're at uni and struggle with the most important language of the online and business world. You have literally no excuse.

>>27706459
That's.

Capitalizing I

Those are grammar errors, even worse than syntax.
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>>27706510
>Then

Bloody fuck.
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>>27706491
Well that's even more baffling.
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>>27706510
Chink, is that you?
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>>27706533
No, that's Autie.

No joke that's pretty much my life.
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>>27706510
You are asian. It does not count then. You are the exception not the rule.
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>>27706622
Westerners struggling with learning.

non-yellowfags go die.
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Recommend me the best HIE's with the most drama.
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>>27706647
>>27705243
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>>27706510
Whatever. I still have no idea what i do wrong and nobody told me before. I dont want a full list just tell me. Do i write the words wrong or is it the sentence formig?
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>>27706668
It's spelling and punctuation. In other words, you're missing punctuation marks as well as some letters in some of the words,.
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>>27706668
Syntax is correct, work on grammar, like capitalization and not forgetting letters.
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>>27706692
I can live with that. Anyway, i still have 9 more years to be as good as you are now.
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>>27706729
I'm not the guy you were replying to, I just thought I might as well answer your question.
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>>27706743
Oh, thanks then. Sorry, i tought the chinese guy answered.
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>>27706768
We're not all General Tso.
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Well, i got what i came for so its time to leave. I was called an autist, i was told my life is worthless and somebody pointed out im not perfect at english in the process, but at least i got some feedback.
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>>27706828
You don't need to announce the fact that you're leaving and that we hurt your feelings.
Just go.
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>>27706828
>I was called an autist, i was told my life is worthless and somebody pointed out im not perfect at english in the process, but at least i got some feedback.
Fimfiction logo on this quote, anyone?
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>>27706828
To be honest, if you're trying to learn English, then just write whatever; the plot doesn't matter if you're just improving your language skills. If you want to write a good story, then just stick to you native language; there's no reason to switch over to English and unless you become fluent in it, it'll show in your writing.
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>>27707024
If he wants to learn English, he should read instead.
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>>27707053
Well, that too, but writing is also a good way to gain familiarity with a language, especially if one plans on eventually writing in that language. Sort of like the difference between listening and speaking a language.
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>>27707024
It's useless to write in your native language if nobody in the pony fandom will read it then.
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>>27707214
Only if you write for fame. I'm of the opinion that you should write for yourself first, and if fame comes to you, enjoy it, but if not, be content with what you've created.

Then again, that's just me. I dunno what other people's motivations are.
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>>27707231
There is no point to writing for me if nobody reads it. That hasn't to do with fame, it's because I want to achieve something in people with what I create. There's no point in creating it for me otherwise.

But I haven't published anything publicly yet. Only drawings, so I know it from that.
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>>27707333
>he doesn't keep tons of unpublished documents in various stages of completion
>he doesn't have much more unpublished text than published
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>>27707367
Uh, that's exactly what I said. I haven't published anything yet. Anything I've so far written is on my harddisks.
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>>27706992
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>>27707424
Thank you for spoonfeeding me every time, Anon.
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>>27706846
>Just go.
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>>27707424
Nice.
What is Fimfiction thread 1?
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Anyone have a suggestion for a comfy HiE, Slice of life fic I can read?
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>>27708156
Project: Sunflower is pretty slice-of-lifey, at least early on.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/5170/project-sunflower

I looked through a few pages of top-rated human + SoL and didn't see anything else that I recognized.
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>>27707792
One of these, I'd presume.
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>>27706647
Kek
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>>27694951
Hey, look.
A sequel is out.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/335011/getting-complicated
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>>27708663
Just from the description it sounds potentially more depressing than the original

>Octavia has fought hard in her life for three things: her art, her career, and her new boyfriend.
she... fought hard for her boyfriend?
I literally just finished this what- 2 days ago?
Since when has 'being a cunt to blueblood and rarara' (which is her default personality btw) qualified as 'fighting hard'?
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>>27708759
I may be biased since I have an unhealthy obsession with that fic. Seriously, I love that story more than some people love their spouses, it just hits all the right notes in my head.

But look at it this way, isn't that something KiS!Octavia would say? I'm sure in her own way, she considers she has indeed fought for him, just as she is a great cellist who deserves a position in a big Orchestra.
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>>27708780
shes a professional victim.
"Oh boo hoo te royal canterlot orchestra went with a different cellist who isnt a raging cunt so I wont have to take a pay cut after all"
"Oh boo hoo fancy prance went with a different cellist for his charity event who isnt a raging cunt. feel bad for me damn it"

I honestly thought octavia was a foil in that fic for the longest time. Kinda reminded me of those shitty teen romance movies where the bland uninteresting main character has an interest in the stuck up prom queen megabitch and doesnt even notice that the cute girl next door chick has been drooling for his cock for years.

Not to say that I'd prefer MacXAnyM6 ship, but I had the feeling octavia was being portrayed as the worst possible sort of person for a reason, just to find out that, no, she wasnt
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[Pt. 1]

>>27702454
There's (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/271943/for-cranky). It's just a short oneshot, so it's likely not what you're looking for.

>>27702707
>which means no hivemind
Not necessarily. Until we see one talk and it doesn't have a Borg voice, dat hivemind's still in play.

I suppose the hivemind headcanon will always be in play since "they're just faking it!" is always going to a counterargument.

>>27705243
>HiE story with humanised characters
How can it be HiE if they're also human? The whole plot of a HiE story requires the culture shock of a horse world as one of its key points. Otherwise, you might as well write original fiction of some guy waking up in Europe.

>everybody else wants him to leave too but he does not want
So, where's he living, then? If nobody wants him there I doubt anyone would be willing to house him. Fluttershy kicked her brother to the curb so any "they wouldn't let him live on the street" is right out the window.

>advantage to have
Mary Sue red flag just went up. Making an OC "special" or "unique" is one of the defining traits of one--whether it's a tragic backstory, weird hair color, or musical magic. And, again, it destroys the whole point of being a HiE to give him magical abilities.

>Its music
I've read this paragraph four times and I still have no idea what you mean. Why would music suddenly give him precognition (predicting future events)? How would listening to songs be useful? How could you convey it in written form? Why not just give him basic precognition and cut the confusing music magic?
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[Pt. 2]

>>27705243
>Soo what do you think?
I don't really think it's a good idea. It's not a HiE, your OC is showing dangerous signs of Mary Sue Syndrome, the music magic is really confusing and seemingly unnecessary, and there's not really a plot. What happens? Is there an antagonist? An ending? Why should someone read it?

I would advise practicing with OCs to get a feel for how they're used. Not "main character that the plot revolves around" kind of OCs, but simpler ones. "Twilight talks to a bookstore owner" "Fluttershy takes Angel to the vet" Those kind. Get a feel for OCs and how they play off of canon characters, then go back to your idea and think it over.

>>27705834
>why you dont like self inserting
Self inserting is bad because it's never honest. The character is never some teen or young adult who surfs the internet and writes fanfics. He's always cool and has some special thing that stands out--even in a world full of multicolored magical horses. He'll distort and warp the world like some kind of eldrich abomination, causing characters to behave nowhere close to how they're supposed to and the plot to center entirely around him.

It may be fun for you as the writer of the delusion and that'd be fine if you were keeping it on your computer to daydream over, but it's never pleasant for the reader, because they're not you. They want to read a story about ponies, not authors projecting themselves into Equestria.

>>27706154
>my idea really that bad
I really, genuinely do and I think that if you proceeded with it, you'd be supremely disappointed with the reaction it would get on Fimfiction.
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>>27710316
>How can it be HiE if they're also human? The whole plot of a HiE story requires the culture shock of a horse world as one of its key points. Otherwise, you might as well write original fiction of some guy waking up in Europe.
Hmm... are there any 'HiEs' in which dude wakes up in EqGland? thatd be sorta funny normal human guy wondering how purplegirl won the prom or whatever. and wondering if that girl with the purple hair has a medical condition to be so pale...

>Why not just give him basic precognition and cut the confusing music magic?
but then he wouldnt have any reason to post his favorite animu soundtrack, marilyn manson, ICP, linkin park youtube links in his fanfiction
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>>27710316
>>27710321
>>27710344
Thanks but you can stop reacting to that post. I realised it was foolish to think i could show you what i wanted with so little context. Most of the point you brought up is a misinterpretation and its my fault. Its a good "what you should avoid" nevertheless.
>>27710344
>he wouldnt have any reason to post his favorite animu soundtrack
and thats just your ptsd kicking in
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>>27708883
>not prefering AppleMac
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>>27710316
>Not necessarily.
Then why would the entire changeling nation want to attend Cranky's wedding? And why would they be allowed into Equestria after the attack?
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>>27710316
>Why would music suddenly give him precognition (predicting future events)? How would listening to songs be useful? How could you convey it in written form?
You don't get it, TSG. He's tuned into the radio station of the universe, hearing the rhythm of every living being around him, tapping into their personal songs and dancing with them...
It honestly feels like some minor villain's Stand ability in JoJo.
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>>27710366
>Thanks but you can stop reacting to that post.
It's multireply anon. He always replies to every interesting post he's missed while he was gone and ends up splitting his post into parts due to word limit.
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>>27710366
Are you Captain Whatever/Ytterbius by chance?
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>>27707792
This.
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>>27710460
nope
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>>27710366
>I realised it was foolish to think i could show you what i wanted with so little context.
This is 4chan. People here will assume the worst about anything. It doesn't help that you brought up HiE, arguably the most vilified fanfic genre in the whole fandom due largely to self-insert Mary Sues.

And I may disagree with multi-reply anon on a lot of things, but I have to agree with him on this one. Your premise seems pointless and really alienating, and your OC does have some supremely potent powers tied to a very specific thing that seemingly comes out of nowhere (I'm assuming author appeal).

But I have to iterate that an OC doesn't have to lack all interesting or unique qualities to not be a Sue. An OC who's completely uninteresting and benign, but takes the center stage regardless, is called an anti-Sue, and is even worse. It all comes down to context and role in the plot. If your OC has believable skills and abilities which are reasonably explained in the narrative, and if the plot/story benefits from his existence, then he's an alright OC. Otherwise, reinvent him or trash him altogether.
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>>27710366
>>27710562
As anon said, context and plot are god. Your character evolve with the plot, your plot shouldn't evolve with your character. Depending on his role or position, it may or may not be good to give him certain powers.

Say a human who just landed. Giving him such an omniscient level of awareness is just overpowered and useless for him, making him a Mary Sue. But let's take an unicorn who studied magic all his/her life, sacrificed everything to unlock its secret and gets to such heights that he gains omniscient awareness of his surroundings. That would make more sense.

Just start small, not big. Write SoL, comedy, and when you've got experience, start that epic saga of yours.
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>>27710386
jack or bloom?
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So is Fluttermac a terribly hated ship? Because I'm writing something that takes place a fair bit of time after the canon setting, and all the mane six will be married with kids. Exactly who's shipped with who isn't important since the mane six aren't the main focus of the story, but I'd like to avoid pissing off legions of shippers anyway.
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>>27710702
ship twilight with flash sentry and people will burn down your house if they find out where you live
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>>27710702

Is there any way not to piss off legions of shippers?

I wouldn't worry about it. FlutterMac is a reasonably longstanding ship and shouldn't twist too many nipples.
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>>27710686
You a fucking pleb or something? Both at the same time.
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>>27710562
>>27710567
Wow, those are actually helpful. If you have some time id like some help refining his ability then. How he gets it is not important now. I saw 2 options, Knowing of the possibility of the ability and slowly learning how to earn it with hard work and persistance, like you mentioned with the unicorn who studied magic and when you earn it you use it. Or as the unicorn had magic already and with hard work he lerned how to use it to his current level. I lean more towards the second. When he gets the ability im thinking about (not necessarily what i was able to describe) he learns to use it. Finding new ways to improve it. Learning other skills like fencing or some basic spells to use with it. Maybe it should be both but thats harder.
To expand the ability a bit, i was thinking more about the old spiderman cartoon like spider sense. (Not the extended one the wiki writes about but the simplified one) There it only kicked in as an instinct. No control over it (and in early stages it kind of controls him) and he only sensed something was wrong, not the danger itself or where will it come from. And even with it spiderman was beatn up many times, lost loved ones, and were not even close to being invincible. Most of the times he only could barely avoid the attacks and sometimes the hits landed anyway.
Look at it like this. You see somebody dancing. Like a modern dance but you never saw it before. (thats your surroundings) You only heard the music before and a long time ago. You won't know what will he do, you wont know what will his moves be, but you can have a good guess. (in the story at first he had hard times processing whats happening since he did not understand it and basically the music part just supressed every other noise, he was close to bein deaf, like you are underwater)
I have to get some shit errands done so i swap to phone and write the rest when i get back if anybody is interested. Or not if it still too autistic to be helped.
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>>27710764
Listen, setting your story in a humanized Equestria is a bad idea in the first place. You might as well write an original novel about a normal guy finding his way into some fantasy world.
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>>27710780
Yes please. I prefer ponies exist in My Little Pony. Otherwise it rather seems as if a point has been missed.
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>>27710780
I kinda grown to the characters and the world, there are so many similarities now. Even if i change the names most of the people would just say im trying to hide a mlp fanfic.
>>27710861
You are right. I will be called a horsefucker anyway so why not write it as one. Should the peotagonist be pony also or leave it as human? I dont want to skip the "from a diferent world" conflicts and diferences so he will sure come from our universe.
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>>27710889
A pony from our universe going back to their universe? Hell, why not write "Pony in Earth" fic if you want to go with the "pony-world interacting with human-world" angle?

Actually, don't do it at all. The Conversion Bureau did a similar concept far better than I imagine your fic would. You know what that was? The entire human universe having complex political, cultural, and economic interactions with the entire pony universe. You can't really top that.
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>>27710905
Didn't that essay on intergalatical politics or something do that?
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>>27708663
I wonder how many years this one will take to finish. Octavia was the most interesting character in the first story after Big Mac, so I'm happy she's getting her own story.
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>>27710366
>misinterpretation
>pic related

Feel free to clarify any point you like. But I've read all your posts in this thread and I completely agree with TSG. Particularly that humanized HiE is pointless, music magic is extremely snowflakey, and for fuck's sake don't make it a self-insert, it will bias your view of your own story and make it impossible for you to accurately judge its quality.

>>27710764
What I really want to hear is how this ability fits into the rest of the world.

If it's some kind of unique/secret/long-forgotten form of magic that only your OC and one or two other characters can use, and it's not common in your setting for many characters to have unique/secret/long-forgotten abilities: it's shit, throw it out, you've made him too much of a special snowflake. But if it's more like "knacks" in that one Orson Scott Card series, where most every character has a unique semi-magical ability, and your OC just discovers what his is, that might be okay.

>>27711032
Not really, Inter-universal Politics is just Earth politicians trying to figure out what to do with these talking horses who showed up asking for military aid.

Try this one instead: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/25148
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>>27710702
>>27710719

Yeah, Fluttermac is a good "default" ship I've seen used when people just want to pair up all the Mane 6 and aren't planning to focus too much on those relationships.
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>>27711061
>damag control
you got me, i was just trying to hide my autism

Actually i planned to have him have the ability by a misfired spell during the early chapters. The concept were: all beings in that world have acess to use magic. Same magic source, diferent uses. (call it mana to simplify it i might rename it later) Humans on the other hand have no ability to gather, sotre or channel mana at all. Everybody there have magic available, sometimes just inhuman strenght or agility like some theory i red about how pegasi and earth ponies channel magic into their body. Other times when somebody studied the flow of mana troughly, the control of reality and time itself is possible. (but mostly ist just teleportation, levitation and shit we saw in the show, archmages are not uncommon but rocket scientists arent either) The protagonist can't contain himself and tuches things he should not and gets blasted with an incomplete spell. I rather not write down the part how his brain tries to comprehend the new energy but it will take its toll. Long story short, he can now use magic but fkin poorly and only on instinct level like sorcerers relate to mages. At first they have no idea he can use mana so they just call it a day. The ability i described was the originally planned effetc of the spell that misfired. It was a modified clearvoyance spell that were supposed to boost the intuitions of the user and thats how it turned out. He struggles to learn how to control it and it would fade if he went back home thats partially the reason he stays. So its not everybody have one special ability like Heroes, but everybody is a magical talking horse now since i was told not to use humans.
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>>27711238
>Humans on the other hand have no ability to gather, sotre or channel mana at all

Yet he can

LOOK SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE OC SO SPECIAL LOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>27711243
>LOOK SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE OC SO SPECIAL LOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
dude calm down, did you just stopped reading there to make that reply?
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>>27711279
Not him, I didn't even get that far, as soon as I saw
>have the ability by a misfired spell
my snowflake detector started going off. If it's gotten by a miscast spell, then it must be SUPER rare and unique which, in case you weren't clear, is a bad thing
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>>27711279
Well, no human can use or channel magic, but Mr Epic Snowflake can.

Do I need to say more?
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>>27711292
>>27711287
>>27711279
>>27711243
okay i start to get it, i tough making him "special" meant to make him better than everybody else for no reason, so i made him close equal, yet still weaker. Now he is special among humans yet he is not among humans its still bad? Would it be better if he could do it from the start?
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>>27711312
Ok, I want to ask something, because I still don't understand.

What are the powers you want to give him? How do they work? How does he get them and how do they affect the story?
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>>27711312
Okay, let's take a strangely similar idea to make you understand what's what. Some months ago, I wrote out the plot for NH, which was received better than yours. It also featured an omniscient device, that wasn't only aware of its surroundings but every alternate universe there existed. Why was it well received? Context, reason and drawback.

Context. The map was developed after centuries of research and the reverse-engineering of the cutie map, giving it a realistic context in which it is used. Since we know ponies are pretty advanced in magic, it makes sense. This is like asking "Where (as in which environment, time and space) is my thing situated?"

Reason. The map was created to monitor Equestria and stop crimes and monsters before they become a threat. This gives it a reason to exist, other than "kul map seez all". It's asking yourself "Why do I add this?" Ask this to yourself when adding characters too.

Drawback. The map's complete data cannot be accessed by any of the main characters at any time, so they don't have a real omniscience over the world unlike the map. Plus, they must stop ANY threat the map detects, from the Everfree's new dragon to benign problems like the CMC setting up a fire. This balances out the power it has, which would be ridiculously overpowered otherwise. This is telling yourself "Okay this, but..."

Now, where is your power situated? We don't know, it just appears out of thin air. Why does he have it? For no other reason than coolness from what I see. Is there any drawback? None at all. Do you see what's missing?

Answer these three questions, and your idea should be better.
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>>27711238
So in other words, he shows up in horseland and promptly acquires low-grade superpowers with no effort? Plus, he's the only X that can Y. I can think of contexts where it might work in theory, but if you try this with your first fic, it'll be total shit.

>>27711312
OK, back up. What kind of story are you trying to write here? In one or two sentences, what is the story mainly about?
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>>27711351
>>27711312

Even simpler, answer the W5

Who? Has the power
When? Does the story happen
What? Happens during the story
Where? Does it happen
Why? Does it happen, does he have the power.
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>>27711345
>>27711380
i need some time to think that trough.
>>27711351
>acquires low-grade superpowers with no effort
damn i suck at expressing myslef, im sure ill have to write the first one on my native language
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>>27711442
>im sure ill have to write the first one on my native language
Which did you say it was?
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>>27711445
hungarian
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>>27711442
Well you should think it through before posting. At least get a clear idea of the plot and characters.

Good luck!
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>>27711442
>damn i suck at expressing myslef
No, I think I was a little unclear in my post.

Here is what you've told us:
> 1. Some big powerful wizard type is setting up a complex spell
> 2. OC pokes it
> 3. Spell destabilizes/misfires
> 4. OC gains this music-based clairvoyance ability
Now, I understand that at first, the OC is bad at using and controlling the ability, and he has to work to improve it. But the fact remains that he gained this ability not by his own hard work and dedication, but by the magical equivalent of sticking his finger in an electrical socket. That's why I said he gets his powers with no effort.

>>27711380
I don't think those are the right questions to ask. The better question is (>>27711333) how does him having this ability affect the story? Is it absolutely necessary for the story to work? ("Rule of cool" a.k.a. "better wish-fulfillment" doesn't count.) The fact that the OC has this power is going to bias readers toward thinking he's a mary sue (see: this entire thread), so it should be removed if at all possible.
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>>27711541
So which do you suggest?
A) Humans can do magic as well. Anon learns it the way all little fillies do in school.
B) Humans can't do magic. Anon gains the ability later but struggle to learn how to do it.
C) Humans can't do magic, no matter what. (in this case the story would go a little diferent)
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>>27711641
>Humans can't do magic, no matter what.

He shouldnt have magic at all because hes supposed to be a normal human and normal humans cant do magic.
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>>27711652
That would mean i have to nerf everything else in that world or he just dies in the first encounter with magic since he have like nothing.
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>>27711660
You're the goddamn author, you figure it out. There are literally thousands of ways you could handle that.
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>>27711660
Is he supposed to be some sort of world saving badass hero of prophesy, or just some shlub who took a wrong turn at albuquerque?

is his first encounter with magic getting magic missle'd or what? just 'encountering' it probably shouldnt be lethal unless the encounter is some battlemage is trying to incinerate him or something
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>>27711689
Well its kinda the rules of fantasy stories. If you get hit by magic and you are not magic you either die a horrible death or you become magic. But usually people dont write about the ones who died unless its in a story of somebody who did not die.
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>>27711713
XD fuck the meds are kicking in, even i cant follow that now (i have a cold and they medicine always make me dizzy)
I'll come back after a nap
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>>27711713
>If you get hit by magic and you are not magic you either die a horrible death or you become magic.
just any magic?

I mean sure a murderize spell would probably kill anything, but a levitated rope? restraint spell? magic scan? being touched by any magic whatsoever either kills you or makes you become god?

yeah I think you need to go back to the drawing board and rethink things
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>>27711713
Err, since when is that a rule? I can't think of a single story where getting hit by magic always results in one of those two results.
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>>27711717
Yeah, you may wanna clear your head.
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>>27706404
>>27706419
>>27706491
Before Fimfic had bookshelves, Favorites and Tracking were the same thing, adding a story to your favs just means you're tracking it.
If people fav your story but don't upvote it, then it just means they didn't find it that good but still want to keep a record.

The read later list has always been a different thing though.
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>>27711760
>>The read later list has always been a different thing though.
Was it? I remember using my favourites for that a few years ago.
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>>27711713
>Hey anon lemme use that masturbation spell on you
>Anon dies

>Hey cranky lemme use that hair growing spell on you
>Cranky dies

>Hey rock let's levitate you
>Rock becomes magic god since it cannot die

u wot
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>>27711772
Hmm, maybe.
I do remember that immediately before the bookshelf update there were of course both favs/tracking and read later, but going back all the way to 2012 when I registered, my memories are a bit fuzzier.
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>>27711652
If you really want your OC human to magic, have it be dependent on a magical artifact. Not one that he trips over by accident. No. An artifact that he has to work his ass off, and doesn't even touch until he's expended a fuckton of blood, sweat, and tears in pursuit of it. And even then, he has to practice to get good at it.
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I'm bored, so what's the first fic you remember reading, and would you read it again in hindsight?

At least for me I have a lot of nostalgia for the shit I read a while ago, but when I look at it again some of it was pretty terrible.
Picrelated is still great though. At least the first half of it
www.fimfiction.net/story/4656/Anthropology
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>>27711898
even that sounds like an asspull though. how does he find out about the artifact? why hasnt anycreature else retrieved it yet?
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>>27711937
Cupcakes.
Wouldn't read again because I still remember everything.

Anthropology was great until they revealed that Lyra wasn't just a paranoid conspiracy theorist.
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>>27711937
The first fic I ever read was also the first fic I ever wrote. A first-person POV smut-fic about a human removing Fluttershy's piss-soaked diaper and wringing it over his mouth to drink her piss, then fucking her while inserting a carrot into her butthole, then putting on another diaper on her before going to the fridge to eat cheese made from her crotchboob milk. It was for laughs. I've never had a normal sense of humor.
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>>27711943
I think having the OC figure that out for himself and act on it would fit into "working his ass off".
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>>27711713
That "rule" is stupid. But regardless, if your character can't win a fair fight, just make sure he only gets involved in unfair ones.
>he's sneaky, and knocks out the opponent before they can spot him
>he's clever, and places traps so the enemy can't reach him
>he's got lots of friends, who will help him out
>he's politically well-connected, so his enemies won't dare to attack him directly
There's a million ways to do this. Or, maybe he does get into a fair fight, gets his ass kicked, and that advances the plot somehow.
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>>27711997
Or he gets into a fair fight but tricks his opponent and wins.
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>>27711937
>I'm bored, so what's the first fic you remember reading, and would you read it again in hindsight?
https://www.fimfiction.net/user/Arxsys
guy i know on a forum was writing it and posted a link.
cant reread it because shit went off the rails and he deleted it once he realized how pants on head it had gotten

>>27711960
dafuq is wrong with you? you make xTSGx's fetish seem normal
>ha-ha it was really just a joke. srsly guise
bullshit

>>27711968
yeah the guy that just got shat into a new alien world just happens to find the sekret treasure map and tracks down the mega macguffin. might as well just initially drop him into sombras super secret overpowered sex toy storage room

>>27712001
oh no. a too clever protagonist is just as bad.

and we've still yet to hear if hes supposed to be some regular mook or some kind of super spartan ninja kung fu batman commando guy
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Wait, Kkat still cares about Fallout: Equestria? What? And she's talking about how her fanfic is social commentary on the US military/government and all that? What kind of idiot writes a Fallout/Pony crossover that takes itself that seriously? Fuck, I like reading and writing 2edgy4me horse fics as much as anyone, but I don't consider it some grand art form.
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>>27712018
Stop trying to impersonate multi-reply, hungarianon.
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>>27711997
What fight would he even get to in Equestria, especially if he's near ponies?
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>>27712018
>a too clever protagonist is just as bad.
If you take 'clever' to mean 'can look ahead into the script and pull deus ex machina out of his rectum', then you're right. But a protagonist who's actually clever and uses cleverness to advance the plot can be interesting. It just requires the author to be at least somewhat clever to make it work.
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>>27712018
>oh no. a too clever protagonist is just as bad.
A clever protagonist beating a clever opponent who's stronger than him is a hell of a show, though.
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>>27712030
What the fuck? FoE's Enclave is almost a carbon copy of the one from the actual games (apart from, you know, being pegasi). Kkat didn't "create" shit.
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>>27712054
>>27712053

and you think a guy that came up with 'magic used on not-magic results in either deadth or godhood' can swing that?

>>27712046
>questions the hun
>must be the hun impersonating someone else
dont be dumb, anon.
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>>27712076
Well, you're the only one with shit grammar here.

And why are you hating on the guy when he didn't write shit yet?
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>>27712076
>and you think a guy that came up with 'magic used on not-magic results in either deadth or godhood' can swing that?
We weren't talking specifically about his fic anymore.
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>>27711772
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/17708/major-site-revisions
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>>27712060
Haha. Seriously? I didn't read FoE so I wouldn't know. I made a villain faction where I threw a bunch of real-world 'evil' empires in a blender, gave it an 'evil' religion that also came from a blender, and injected a fair dose of grimdark. It's more original than her horse-Enclave and makes it look like a bunch of hippies at Woodstock, and I don't take it seriously enough to say that I 'created' it.
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>>27712030
Checked the comments below that post.
Have these people done any quests besides the main storyline? I don't know why, but this makes me so upset.
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>>27712146
>all this Legion hate
Fuck, that's triggering.

And just about anything's better than Fallout 3 in the story department. That has shit writing even by video game standards. And those are some low-ass standards.
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>>27712076
i just woke up so whatever im still sleepy.
just forget about the magic killsor make you god stuff, its messed up. Anyway, making him so fkin smart he can trick every mage or warrior or rogue or whoever he meets sounds as bad as giving him godlike powers. I dont want a naruto style showdown when we just stare each other for 10 minutes explaining why the other already lost revealing million tricks i did in the past 2 and half minutes.
As i see if i give ANY better than average skills/trait/ability to the main character it would just get called out. Do all of you only like slice of life comedy where basically nothing interesting happens and nobody is extraordinary?
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Holy shit, these are still a thing?
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>>27712540
Wait so what's the point of T-rated gore? It's just as thematically opposed to ponies as M-rated gore (the only difference is degree) but lacks the emotional impact that M-rated gore provides. The info page on tags says that literally the only difference is that T-rated is described more vaguely than M-rated. Which, in my opinion at least, is weaker writing.
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>>27712520
>As i see if i give ANY better than average skills/trait/ability to the main character it would just get called out
Here's your problem.
>if i give
The problem is that you, the author, are giving your OC things instead of having him earn them within the context of the fictional universe in which he exists. This is bad because it removes a reader's suspension of disbelief by calling author favoritism to attention, and because it removes any potential for any meaningful conflict that could drive a story that a reader could invest himself in. How is this so hard to understand?
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>>27712575
If your audience is preteends and you don't want to give them nightmares.
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>>27711380
>Who?
The babe with the power.
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>>27712632
Huh. I thought preteens loved gratuitous violence. I did when I was a preteen. I still do.
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>>27712674
Yeah, I did too.
But there's such a thing as going too far with gore.
I like that there's a distinction between just "people being cut in parts" and "holy shit you're a psycho".
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>>27711937
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1zZZnizNM_2hh_UQ22gmk2VChBrlFCmyLevNuCbKbSaQ

It's still a pretty nice read after all these years, but I'm a bit more used to feelsy fics, so it didn't hit me as hard. I nearly cried reading it the first time because I didn't think an MLP story could be serious and touch on feelsy subjects.
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>>27712685
Just where is that line drawn, anyway? I could never really tell. Then again, my sense of empathy has always been borked. It hurts my writing, especially when I have to try to make things sympathetic.
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>>27712616
I see some sense in that. I need to start the story waaay before the actual plot i have in mind happens then. Do he have to work fucking hard to go to equestria too or i can make it unintentional? He had no motives to go there since nobody knows about that place. (I chose it to be HiE after all and i dont give a shit about how many failed before me. If i fail too, nobody will notice it in the sea of autism i plan to dive right into.)
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>>27712798
>Do he have to work fucking hard to go to equestria too or i can make it unintentional?
The latter has been done to death already. Either you make him work hard to go to Equestria, or you pick one of the HiE cliches (e.g. lands in Everfree, lands in treebary because twilight fucked a spell, etc.) but don't dwell on it. And if you pick the former, you have to give him a reason for *why* he wants to go to Equestria.
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>>27712773
>Just where is that line drawn, anyway?
As always, this is all subjective, and the intent behind it also counts.

If you're writing something like Cheerilee's Garden where the whole point of the story is creative torture, clearly this is what the mature tag is intended for.

But if your story merely happens to involve some gruesome details in passing, well that's a different story because you can afford to just gloss over the gory details without detracting from the plot.

My two cents.

> Then again, my sense of empathy has always been borked. It hurts my writing, especially when I have to try to make things sympathetic.
I don't really know what it's lik to have no empathy. Is it that you don't understand how other people feel, or that you're just not really made to give a shit?
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>>27712843
>you can afford to just gloss over the gory details without detracting from the plot
Which is a violation of the basic rule of 'show don't tell'. At least in my opinion. I prefer vivid descriptions of whatever happens even if it's not terribly crucial to the plot.

>Is it that you don't understand how other people feel, or that you're just not really made to give a shit?
Mostly the latter. You can tell on an intellectual what people are feeling based on physical and contextual cues (which autistics can't do by definition btw) but you can't really get into how or why they feel that way since your callousness means you have no frame of reference you can use to make any sort of educated guess.

From a writing perspective, that means any depiction you make of a person (or pony) feeling empathy for some reason is largely a shot in the dark.
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>>27712823
So to do that i need a guy who is average in every way, yet he manages to go to an other fucking dimension with his own power/knowledge. He would need to be a fucking scientist or astronaut or archeologist to do that, then there goes the average part of him.
God now i know why arent many original ideas of how people got there.
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>>27712912
By the sound of it, you don't need any at all. The idea of a human going to pony-land is shit, has been shit since Day 1, and will continue to be shit until the universe collapses on its own entropy and all life is turned to cosmic dust. Think of something more interesting. This is a fantasy universe with cartoon horses. Sky's the limit.
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>>27712773
If it serves the plot in a crucial way, it's okay.

If it's for no reason, it's not.
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>>27712911
>Which is a violation of the basic rule of 'show don't tell'. At least in my opinion. I prefer vivid descriptions of whatever happens even if it's not terribly crucial to the plot.
I have nothing against vivid descriptions, but at some point you need to stop and move on with the story before people start reading in diagonal.

Have you ever read Balzac? He'll hapilly spend several pages describing a room and the athmosphere of a scene, and somehow he does it exceedingly well, but few people have this quality.

If your story doesn't have gore as a central theme, then you don't need to turn it into a Mengele experiment for it to be interesting.

>Mostly the latter. You can tell on an intellectual what people are feeling based on physical and contextual cues (which autistics can't do by definition btw) but you can't really get into how or why they feel that way since your callousness means you have no frame of reference you can use to make any sort of educated guess.
>From a writing perspective, that means any depiction you make of a person (or pony) feeling empathy for some reason is largely a shot in the dark.
Yeah, I can see how that would complicate things.
That said, it's a pretty simple concept and I imagine it should be possible to fake it fairly convincingly in writing.
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>>27712937
To be honest after a day here everything about pony-land sounds shit.
>Sky's the limit.
>But dont dare to put our world anywhere near it!
Fine i will just write about a 20yo emo guy who one day finds ponko in his bed and fucks her senseless. Then his dad tells him he found out how great anime is and he is now proud of his son for liking it and totally will never ask him to go find a job or move out of his basement again. Fuck this shit im out.
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>>27713025
>Fine i will just write about a 20yo emo guy who one day finds ponko in his bed and fucks her senseless. Then his dad tells him he found out how great anime is and he is now proud of his son for liking it and totally will never ask him to go find a job or move out of his basement again. Fuck this shit im out.
Giving up HiE self-inserts for PiE self-inserts is going from worse to bad.
It's still bad.
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>>27713025
>>Sky's the limit.
>But dont dare to put our world anywhere near it!

Fine. Do you know why? Why we don't want to put our world in?

Our world is shit. It's boring. Useless. Corrupt. Limited. Pony world is unlimited. But no, you have to bring in a human because you feel insecure about going out of your own universe. Instead of writing about ponies in pony land, let's write about humans in pony land, cause no one ever heard about a human!
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>>27713049
>Our world is shit. It's boring. Useless. Corrupt. Limited.
Well to play double's avocado, so is equestria, for some equestrian.
Writing a perfect utopia is a step up from writing wish-fullilment, but it's not a huge step.

Any world will be limited, partially corrupt, and sometimes limited. It takes all sorts to make a world.
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>>27712978
>but at some point you need to stop and move on with the story before people start reading in diagonal
And I agree, but this is less about gore specifically and more about simple conservation of detail.

>I imagine it should be possible to fake it fairly convincingly in writing.
By describing the pony's/person's body language, sensory details, etc. it's easy to arrange things in a way that makes a reader empathize with a character. The problem is it's hard to guess how a character would feel in certain situations; making a wrong guess and having a character behave unrealistically will put a strain on willing suspension of disbelief.

There's also the issue of making a character sympathetic or unsympathetic, which is largely based on empathy. A small anecdote: I started one of my fics from the third person POV of a character who I'd planned on killing off from the start. So I made him emotionally sensitive and constantly angsting about the world around him while never taking an active role to fix it, so that his eventual death would be cathartic. As it turned out, people seemed to find his reactions completely justified, and they found him sympathetic, to the point where people didn't think he was actually dead because they thought I, the author, was on his side.

That's the kind of problem you run into when deciding how sympathetic something is is a guessing game.

>>27713025
Eh. Good riddance imo.
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>>27713076
But you can explore different depths and aspects of Equestria. I get what you're saying, my own verse I'm writing in is a financially and politically corrupted Equestria, but there's still way more to explore than humans.
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>>27713025
Jesus, I wish I'd gotten here an hour ago.

Alright, here's the best recommendation I can give. HiEs share several chromosomes with SI fics. This is not a bad thing. A foreigner experiencing a novel and exciting land can be excellent material. In fact, it's been done well several times, to my knowledge, though not in this fandom. Give one of the following a read through, and think about what makes it tick, high school lit style.

>Dreaming of Sunshine
A Naruto SI. If those words make the walls close in and conjure a nameless feeling of dread (and scorn), then good, you still have a functioning brain. But it's very good, if a bit wordy. It and its thousand bastard children skulk on ff.net.

>Security!
A Worm SI, hosted on Spacebattles. This one, by all rights should suck. It hits almost all the checks on the wish fulfillment checklist, but style and grace can salvage quite a bit.

General advice:
Get an editor. Seriously. Get someone to read over paragraphs and chapters as you write them. They should look for grammar and spelling mistakes, but they should give you a slapping when you make poor decisions. If you can't get a dedicated editor, post it to an active forum with a creative writing section. I prefer Sufficient Velocity or the aforementioned Spacebattles. They can help out without 4chans pointless hostility or fimfics crippling hugboxing. Likewise, they have a more robust interpersonal communication network, which helps immensely compared to 4chan's anonymity.
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>>27713091
>The problem is it's hard to guess how a character would feel in certain situations; making a wrong guess and having a character behave unrealistically will put a strain on willing suspension of disbelief.
Unless your character is supposed to be particularly evil, you won't ever break suspension of disbelief by having a pony being *too* empathic.
It wouln't be out of character for most candy colored equines to be kind and naive to a fault.

>There's also the issue of making a character sympathetic or unsympathetic, which is largely based on empathy. A small anecdote: I started one of my fics from the third person POV of a character who I'd planned on killing off from the start. So I made him emotionally sensitive and constantly angsting about the world around him while never taking an active role to fix it, so that his eventual death would be cathartic. As it turned out, people seemed to find his reactions completely justified, and they found him sympathetic, to the point where people didn't think he was actually dead because they thought I, the author, was on his side.
>That's the kind of problem you run into when deciding how sympathetic something is is a guessing game.
You could call that "willing suspension of evil", unless the writer gives me a clear sign that someone's morally challenged and questionnably ethical, as a reader I tend to assume that the main character is a good guy.
The longer you write about someone, the more people become attached to the character. I don't care if some kid in Bumfuckistan dies because I can't relate to people that far away, but unless someone's an major ass once you get to know them you generally don't want them dead.

So my epic rant is probably not going to hep much, but it made sense in my head...
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>>27713105
I think I agree with you then. Equestria is a wonderful universe and you can certainly explore more things there than on Earth.
I'd just take exception to the idea that nothing good can be done on Earth because humans are inherently awful, but somehow the plentiful pastel ponies present a picture of plain perfection.
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>>27713184
>Unless your character is supposed to be particularly evil, you won't ever break suspension of disbelief by having a pony being *too* empathic.
It was less about his feelings and more about how he reacted to them. I figured that if I made him cry and act scared at things without acting on it in any admirable or meaningful way, he'd become unsympathetic. And I must stress 'he' because I was also attempting to invoke the social stigma against men/stallions being weepy and sensitive.

>"willing suspension of evil"
I understand what you're saying, and I agree to a point, but being too emphatic can be unrealistic too. Those Sarah McLachlan cruelty commercials are notorious tear-jerkers, but wouldn't it be a strain on someone's willing suspension of disbelief if I depicted someone falling to his knees and weeping into his palms/hooves at the sight of the abused animals on the TV? The only pony I can imagine doing this would be Fluttershy, and even then, it'd probably be played for laughs.
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>>27713242
I like the idea of a human, a corrupt and broken creature, finding a pure and seemingly utopical land and exploring it from his pov. Finding values and virtues in its inhabitants and changeing himself trough it. That should be the focus in hies, not fightning and magic.
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>>27713288
>It was less about his feelings and more about how he reacted to them. I figured that if I made him cry and act scared at things without acting on it in any admirable or meaningful way, he'd become unsympathetic. And I must stress 'he' because I was also attempting to invoke the social stigma against men/stallions being weepy and sensitive.
Well I can't really comment without having read the story, but empathy and courage are different things. I might not be super proud of someone not reacting to things he's scared of, but it's hard to blame the person.

>but wouldn't it be a strain on someone's willing suspension of disbelief if I depicted someone falling to his knees and weeping into his palms/hooves at the sight of the abused animals on the TV?
I could argue that ponies wouldn't put animal abuse on TV, but yes I think that would be going a bit too far.
My point is not that it's impossible to go too far, I'm only arguing that the line is pretty far away, so that even someone with no empathy can recognize when it's clearly crossed.
By staying reasonnable, it's hard to overdo it.
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>>27713242
We can, but once again, we've got human authors who have and are diving into these subjects very thoroughly. I think we can leave the job to them. I've never considered Equestria as an utopia, and never considered earth as a dystopia. I'm sitting between the two in my view.

>>27713312

Agreed also. Does any HiE deal with this? Human comes, tries to find something wrong in this perfect society, but doesn't. He ends up obsessing over the idea Equestria isn't really perfect when it is.
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>>27713312
>I like the idea of a human, a corrupt and broken creature, finding a pure and seemingly utopical land and exploring it from his pov
I believe that's what most HiE are currently doing, actually.
The typical human in equestria is rarely a paragon of virtue.

Besides, I have never seen the truly corrupt and geniunely sick people changing themselves for the better at the sight of widespread innocence. Instead, it seems they like to abuse the situation for personal gain without the slightest hint of introspection or remorse.
So that whole scenario seems plenty fancicul to me.
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>>27713365
>The typical human in equestria is rarely a paragon of virtue.


Every self-insert HiE in Fimfic's history, which means 80% of HiEs..
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>>27713395
All I see is edgy teens with superpowers getting in situations where the ponies are ridiculously kind and accomodating with them. Never the contrary.
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>>27713325
>I might not be super proud of someone not reacting to things he's scared of, but it's hard to blame the person.
Eh. I figured people would be critical of the character for being overly whiny and I misjudged. I did put him in a group of three where the other two were unrepentant sociopaths who treated him like a slave. While I was writing, I thought it'd make him look even whinier by putting him next to characters who had hardly any care for others at all, but in retrospect, that probably just made his whining more justified.

>My point is not that it's impossible to go too far, I'm only arguing that the line is pretty far away,
That's good to know, then. I'm not an autist; I think I can make a reasonable guess at these things. I've never gotten any complaints about it, anyway.
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>>27713412
>Eh. I figured people would be critical of the character for being overly whiny and I misjudged.
That could have worked, but it's hard to tell without having looked at it.

> I did put him in a group of three where the other two were unrepentant sociopaths who treated him like a slave. While I was writing, I thought it'd make him look even whinier by putting him next to characters who had hardly any care for others at all, but in retrospect, that probably just made his whining more justified.
Yes, and putting someone next to truly awful people tends to make them look better by comparison.
I'm not fond of, say, Meghan Mc Carthy, but if you put her next to Joseph Staling and Pol Pot I know who I'm rooting for.
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>>27713409
They're always right and never wrong though, making them paragons of righteousness and whatever the author likes.
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>>27713483
Paragons of truthiness, maybe.
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>>27713462
>putting someone next to truly awful people tends to make them look better by comparison.
I know about this. In fact, I relied pretty heavily on it. Those two ponies who treated him like a slave were the main characters, one of whom became the main POV character after the other one was killed off. I expected the audience to root for them on the grounds that the villains were even worse. I did succeed on that end.
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>>27713504
To clarify, 'the other one' means the (un)sympathetic whiny one.
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While doing this story
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/319442/what-goes-up
I said a little humorous thing I thought I should share before I deleted it from the project.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1UcuZjGxQDM

Actual video soon.
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How do you approach a new character?

My specific setting is writing in Granny Smith's 1st person perspective and making her find young Twilight in an improvised shack up a river.
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>>27713652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCsMPCbNE5k&feature=youtu.be
What Goes Up by PegasusMesa

Would you punch a baby to save a life?
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>>27712030
>The soldiers in my Enclave had to choose between doing what was right and doing what they were supposed to do
Isn't that literally the Enclave remnants in New Vegas though?

>>27712146
I bet there first fallout game was 3
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>>27713916
No, it's obviously 2deep4u
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>>27713943
But how deep is 2deep?
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>>27713994
Slightly more shallow than 3deep.
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>>27713994
When you cannot understand the deep implications of Fallout 3 and New Vegas and how FOE is TOTALLY different from them and not a copy.

Fuck, I hate those high profile keyboard my library has.
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>>27714029
Does FO:E universe even have New Vegas stuff in it? Legion NCR House etc.
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>>27714036
The Enclave remnants.
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>>27714040
Anything else?
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Am I the only one who didn't bother to read FOE?

It just seemed bland and uninteresting, just Fallout with ponies as Kkat himself described it. It just didn't appeal to me with its high word count and subject.
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>>27713312
Equestria is not a utopia. That's kind of obvious from the outset of the first episode. The first scene literally shows a true story where a pony became jealous enough to attempt to take over the world, and directly after that, we show the main character having a slight social disorder, which results in a certain character getting crippling social anxiety for the following years. Then there's the rampant fear mongering, constant conflict (although it is whitewashed), and regular arguments.
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>>27714052
Pretty much that.

We are talking about a pretty similar Fallout plot in a pony story. Is there any point to FOE's adventure, or is it just Fallout with a few plot changes and ponies?
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>>27713916
>Isn't that literally the Enclave remnants in New Vegas though?
Well, no. I think Kkat is full of shit on all the other accounts, but in FoE, there's quite a bit of focus on "Dashites", which are Enclave deserters named after Rainbow Dash, who's regarded as a traitor by post-war pegasi. They're allowed to leave at any time, but their cutie marks are removed and they're banished to the wasteland below. It's different from people who stuck with the Fallout Enclave 'till the end.
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>>27714071
Its uninteresting-ness goes deeper than just that. The plot is entirely unfocused, the characters are unentertaining and often hypocritical, the (few) attempts to break up the grim dark bleakness are pathetic, the prose gets jarring at times and often betrays its own serious tone with silly phrases and metaphors.

>>27714091
It's more grimdark. FoE ratchets the grimdark up to Warhammer 40k levels.
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>>27714071
I've been reading it before it even ended. I really loved it at the time, too.
It's also served as a gateway to my favourite fic.
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>>27714106
So, it's just loved for being a fic that was loved?

Or is this the level that Fimfic considers a legend?

This makes me sympathize with Howard's hatred of old, overused things in the Fountainhead.
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>>27714091
>>27714106
Yeah but does it understand that the Fallout series is basically Post Post Apocalypse and that rebuilding society and old world values are the main theme of the setting
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>>27714112
It's loved because it's a popular video game franchise plus fad meme cartoon that came out during the apex of pony's popularity, and it is more competently written than most fanfics.
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>>27714091
Littlepip leaves her Stable to find Velvet Remedy, who's escaped. She makes friends along the way, finds VR, who then tells her she doesn't want to go back. Things escalate in ways I don't exactly remember, Littlepip ends up fighting a morally grey slave master and restoring Equestria's ecosystem thanks to a pre-war failsafe invention that was supposed to be used by the Elements in case war ruined the world, at an ultimate price.
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>>27714123
Yeah. The major "villains" are all trying to rebuild the world in their own ways, and so is Littlepip herself.
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>>27714125
The vault dweller from Vault 101 leaves to find his dad. He/she makes friends along the way, and fins his father, who doesn't want to go back. Things escalate in a way I don't remember, the vault dweller ends up fighting a morally grey supercomputer and organization and restoring clean water thanks to a pre-war failsafe invention that was supposed to be used by the vaults in case the war ruined the world, the G.E.C.K..
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>>27714150
>The vault dweller from Vault 101
As a Fallout nerd, this triggers me. The Vault Dweller is the protagonist from Fallout 1. You're talking about the Lone Wanderer.
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>>27714125
>>27714150

Remember readers, FOE is a totally original piece of fiction and definitely not a copy of Fallout 3.

The courier leaves to find that guy who stole his chip. He makes friends along the way, and finds the guy, who does not want to give it back. Things escalate in a way I don't exactly remember, the courier ends up choosing sides in a morally grey conflict, and restoring the Strip's peace and glory thanks to a pre-war dam.

>>27714156
My bad, I get mixed often.
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>>27714150
Essentially, yes. It obviously uses tons of plot elements from across all the Fallout games. Nobody's denying that.

>a morally grey supercomputer
Are you for real, dude? How is Eden morally grey? He literally asks you to kill every fucking wastelander in the D.C. with his poison.
Also, G.E.C.K. doesn't work like that.
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>>27714164
...did you just fucking reply to yourself
And while your previous post obviously made sense, now you're just complaining that FoE sticks to the games' formula.
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>>27714171
>He literally asks you to kill every fucking wastelander in the D.C. with his poison.
You're also killing all the supermutants. Plus, most of the wastelanders are garbage anyway. I don't care how badly the narrator vilifies me for putting FEV in the water and making that BoS bitch turn on the purifier because it's not like Fallout is about making difficult moral choices that might have unintended consequences along the way, right?. I know I made the right choice.
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>>27714183
You could have just written "EDEN DID NOTHING WRONG" and it'd be essentially the same post.
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>>27714171
>How is Eden morally grey?

He wants to kill most wastelanders, but mutants and monsters too, and provide free water to all the survivors. He isn't a perfect angel, nor a complete devil.

>Also, G.E.C.K. doesn't work like that.

From the wiki:

"The Garden of Eden Creation Kit is a device capable of radically altering the Wasteland and transforming dead, irradiated soil into viable land suitable for farming; it is implied, though not confirmed, that this is the usual mode of operation for a GECK in Fallout 2.

And FO3's G.E.C.K.:

"This version of the G.E.C.K. is a far more advanced piece of technology than the implied agricultural starter kit the developers of the previous games intended it to be. In this case, when included as a component within Project Purity's Purifier, the G.E.C.K. helps that other technology remove all radioactive particles from the water of the River Potomac that flows through it.

It does restore, although in a limited space, an ecosystem, and FO3's can also filter water.
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>>27714197
Well, if you just activate the water purifier, all wastelanders live. Including slavers, raiders, criminals, super mutants, and the small portion of actually good people. It's a very real dilemma. The wanderer's father has a point, but Eden also has one.
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>>27714138
I'm not familiar with FOE but have they actually succeeded at it? I mean the NCR basically have an entire civilization on the West Coast, complete with industry, full fledged economic system with their own currency, with food water and shelter. Legion and East Coast BoS have basically done the same things as well.
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>>27714202
Pic related is what FO2 GECK actually was.
FO3 GECK, from what we know only has something that can remove radiation.

The device in FoE literally regrows flora, removes radiation and purifies water all across the Equestria.
Of course, it was based on the GECK, but GECK still doesn't work like that.
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>>27714197
So,

>We stand for the liberation of America as a colony of the British Empire, even if it must be gained through violence. The empire does provide us with advantages and we would be a part of its wealth by staying in it, but we are entitled to our own choice in taxation and the administration of our own land. I am therefore in favor or starting a revolution to gain independence. I fully acknowledge the pros and cons in our decisions, and some sacrifices being necessary for the greater good, we must fight and win for our own sake.

Is the same as:

>WASHINGTON DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>27714210
And if you do what Eden says, his serum kills literally every living being that has ever beinh tainted by radiation. Which means EVERYONE, including you.

>>27714229
No. All factions were at a war with each other by the end, Red Eye was killed, the Brotherhood split up, and Littlepip sacrificed herself to restore Equestria anyway. The only problem left at the end of the fic was that raiders still existed.
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>>27714232
And we killed the thread, great.

It still works in a strangely similar way. It makes irradiated ground arable, and the one in FO3 is said to combine water filtration and terraforming abilities, although on a smaller scale than FOE's tool, as they say it included agricultural tools with the water filtration.
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>>27714237
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Modified_FEV
>According to President Eden, it will indiscriminately target and exterminate super mutants, ghouls, any and all other mutated creatures, and generally anything that has been at all affected by Wasteland mutation upon ingestion. This would include any wastelander that had been originally born in the Wastelands and/or heavily exposed to its background radiation and other mutational hazards, or hosts any other sort of mutational side effect at all as a result.

>>27714261
Thankfully I'm a Fallout lorelord, so I don't mind this discussion.
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>>27714250
>Which means EVERYONE, including you.

Smaller sacrifices are necessary for the greater good. His serum kills everyone but the vault dwellers, which means every mutant and criminal with it.

>The only problem left at the end of the fic was that raiders still existed.

Which wouldn't have happened if she accepted CelestAI's offer :)
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>>27714250
>including you
It's pretty well-established in Fallout lore that vault-dwellers aren't considered muties by the Enclave. It's also established that the average Wastelander (as opposed to vault-dwellers and Enclave citizens) to have slight FEV mutations; the Master in Fallout 1 treasured vault-dwellers for how well they received super-mutant transformation in the FEV vats at Mariposa compared to normal Wastelanders.
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>>27714270
It is extremely interesting still, and bumps the thread. I'll continue when I get home, perhaps on a new thread.
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>>27714250
What's the point if there are no fully realized civilizations? I mean it might as well be a rudimentary post apocalyptic setting at that point
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>>27714279
>His serum kills everyone but the vault dwellers
Do you know how many vault dwellers there are left? Not enough.
Do you know how much radiation there'd be left? A lot.
Which would mean the contaminated water would kill even newly emerged vault dwellers eventually.

>Which wouldn't have happened if she accepted CelestAI's offer
What was her offer again? I don't remeber.
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>>27714283
>It's pretty well-established in Fallout lore that vault-dwellers aren't considered muties by the Enclave.
The player character has been exposed to shit tons of radiation. Modified FEV doesn't work on Enclave's word definitions, it runs on science.

>>27714295
Each city has its own law enforcement, at least. The fic ended on this note of "we haven't solved the problem yet, but this was a huge step forward".
Also, the pegasi technically have a fully realized civilization thanks to being isolated from all threats for 200 years.
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>>27714324
Let me butt in just to say that the player character isn't really a vault dweller. He was born to Wastelanders and was exposed to fucktons of radiation on his journey. A pure vault dweller that just does a couple expeditions outside with radx/radaway should be okay.
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>>27714299
They still have their individual GECKs, which remove radiation from the soil and makes it totally clean and arable.

>Her offer

Just a joke with Eden being an AI.
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>>27714324
Since the wanderer has spent relatively little time outside, and that radiation decays with time, he might be fine in comparison with his fellow wastelanders.
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>>27714352
Oh true, I always forget that.
However, "a couple expeditions outside" is not what the Enclave wants. What would their purpose be without people living above ground?

>>27714360
GECKs are rare, though.

>>27714372
>and that radiation decays with time
We're talking about Fallout, not real life.
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>>27714324
Anyone make a continuum on the growing societies or does the setting just stay stagnant due to war and raiders?
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>>27714382
Not sure. Obviously settlements pop up here and there, but I don't think there's a lot happening in the wastes apart from violence.
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>>27714377
I'd say that whoever survives the FEV purge of mutants and undesirables is deemed pure enough to MAGA. Then you can start rebuilding civilization, work some more of that GECK magic or whatever technology they have as well.
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>>27714422
But aren't Enclave soldiers born in the wasteland as well, thus killable by the modified FEV?
Is GECK really enough to purify the USA?
Are there enough vault dwellers still alive and clean enough for Enclave's purposes?
And are lakes poisoned as well?
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So new thread when?
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>>27714377
>GECKs are rare

>Each Vault was presumably issued with two GECKs, except for Vaults 8, 13, 112, 111, and 101; Vault 8's extra GECK got swapped (whether by accident or some nefarious scheme, this is not known) with Vault 13's surplus water chips that had been ordered as backups.

Although I would still be slightly in your favor, considering the capabilities of those machines.
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>>27714470
I never studied F3 lore that well but I thought the Enclave were all pure and that's kinda what they built their pride on?
They had that purifier that finally after 200 years made the water/river not radioactive and so they could distribute pure water across the state
The GECK basically made Vault City possible and they seem like a fine bastion of civilization, albeit a little elitist
It's enough to give them a good start
Dunno about the rest, really
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>>27714470
Since it poisons the Potomac, any place it doesn't flow into should be fine.
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>>27714418
That's a shame half the fun of fallout was learning about the politics and motivations behind tribals and communities. Any recommended reading besides the main story?
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>>27714513
Murky Number Seven. Objectively the best writing out of any FoE spin-off, great character development, great drama, great plot. Starts out depressing, but it gets more optimistic the closer they are to freedom.
Project Horizons is alright until somewhere around chapters 30-40, where it starts its tragic descend into madness.
Pink Eyes has good feels, but the main character is annoying as fuck otherwise.

You can just go and ask Fallout Equestria General.
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page 7 and dropping. Whos working on the new thread?
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you guys suck.

i mean NEW THREAD

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