My Loyal Ponies: Submission Is Mandatory #86

BB when?

>>27503168
Hips and Thighs.
Milf and Daughter.
Unf

>>27502194
wrong. people voted for celestia to be dead because of various reasons, people also voted for her to be alive. Ollie isn't responsible for that. this is like blaming the DM for your players actions because he let the player face the consiquences of their actions.

either way, the only way it would be his decision is if he decided to go against what the consensus was for whatever reason. There are probably worthwhile reasons to do that one way or another but the I don't see any such post declaring that.

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>>27503168
>that pic
ayyyy

>>27503905
>what the consensus was
WAS there a consensus? It seemed to be pretty evenly split to me.

>>27504193
If anything more people seemed to be leaning towards her not being dead forever.

>>27504193

Alot of people including me wanted her dead. Would make things far more interesting.

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Ignore us all, do the right thing, pretend you thought about it, and spare Sunbutt.

>>27504326
This pls. I want to break her so bad she wants nothing but the hot monkey dick, not kill her.

>>27504290
>Alot of people
>SiM
Anon, don't lie to make your point.

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>>27504637
>We will never have another multi-thread shitstorm.

>>27504637
>>27504690
Let's set up a an online poll, that always helps to clear things up.

>>27504709
Because those haven't been spammed with repeat voters before...

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I'm trying to build up a small folder of SiM-related pony images. Both for general use, and for possible thread headers.

Help a guy out?

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>>27505432

>>27505505
Though this one I mentally tie with bluebird more than anything.

>>27505510
but does space dick anon even smoke?

>>27505625
No smoking on spaceships.

>>27505631
Please use the designated smoking area.

>airlock

>>27503168
Are there any stories with twilight velvet (twi's mom)?
If so are they any good?

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>>27505432
I tend to bump with what I consider theme related pictures from time to time. Most if not all of the time when I post pictures they come with the derp file number so you can easily find the picture there and from there the artist.

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Goodnight thread, perhaps tomorrow we'll see some more green. Or lovely pictures are always nice as well.

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>>27505822
Same here. I think that the occasional pictures, however unrelated to the current stories, make the tread look a lot better than several consecutive bumps.

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>>27504326

Where the fuck are the rest of these collar edits?

I hear about them all the fucking time, that there's this one fag who's been doing this for years, but this is only the fourth one I've seen.

Doesn't someone have a MEGA or a Google Drive or fucking something?

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>>27504138
>15 - 20 Minutes
kek

>>27503168
bump

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>>27505432

889

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Same anon from yesterday. Just an update. How is it coming along so far? I'll work on the hair and the metallic stuff tommorow when I wake up. Anything you think should be added/changed? Thoughts on it so far? Anyone got any ideas for the story behind the pick so far? It should be more apparant now. It's a dungeon.

>>27510160
>Artwise
I like that you've added more bits of rucked-up hair on her. It gives the impression she's not just captured, but has already been through a lot getting there. The shading has helped contribute to her eyes as well. Only real criticism I can make is that her horn looks... flat, somehow. I feel like with the angle her head is at it should be pointing more towards the viewer, where it seems to go straight up in this.

>Storywise
It doesn't look liker her hindlegs are supported, which means that she's hanging by her forelegs - ouch. That's not just imprisonment, that's torture. Makes me think maybe she's being interrogated? But for what - maybe she was caught outside the Crystal Empire, but Shining managed to get the shield up?

That explains her look - she knows whoever's coming for her is coming for her family, so she's drawing on that anger to keep herself strong.

>>27510160
"Your husband is dead."
>The mare glares pure hatred as you pace around her.
"Your kingdom has fallen."
>Her eyes follow as long as they can, until you step behind her.
"Your allies have abandoned you."
>A tremor runs through her body. Nothing you had done, of course. Though, perhaps what you had said...
"You know I had nothing to do with all that."
>The gag stifles but cannot hide the growl that rises from her throat.
"You know I am a kind man. At least, I presume you do. Why else would you have come to me for sanctuary when all other have - at best - turned you and your daughter away?"
>She watches you out of the corner of her eye as you come back around. If looks could kill... well, you count yourself lucky that they cannot.
"And so I have to ask why you felt the need to attack me?"
>Her head jerks. Is she trying to talk? Trying to spit at you? Maybe just trying to free herself? It matters not.
"I am a kind man, Cadence."
>You reach out, stroking the fluff on her chest. She tries to struggle, but can't escape your hand.
"Your daughter is still unharmed."
>Her efforts increase, but not by much. She's been hanging too long, her legs hurt too much - if they have any feeling left in them at all.
"So I have to know. Why?"
>She can't answer, not with the ball gag still crammed in her mouth. You hadn't wanted any screams or pleas for mercy to disturb her little Flurry Heart's rest.
"Why would you attack me?"
>You don't want an answer.
"Was what I asked of you so hard?"
>You don't want her to say anything.
"You should have just done what I told you to."
>All you want is for her to submit.

>>27510160
This is shaping up very nicely. The longer horn really feels better. The mane should look a lot dirtier i think (i know its work in progress). The shading is strangely alluring but it looks like each body part is lit from a different side. I'm not a fan of the wings bondage, it looks like those plastic bags they use in FoE, and it doesn't fit with the other restraints, both in style and color.

I think the wings would look a lot better if we could actually see them, bound or not and they had some sort of damage, like missing feather or just be dirty like the mane should be. Also It might be just the pose, but her right leg looks two times thicker than the left one. I love the thickness just... it should be a more even on both sides.

Also that stare is really intense, She's definitely not looking at something but someone. I think you could even enhance this feeling by making the viewer hold something. That would really help to paint the story behind the picture. Maybe a dildo or a whip? No. The expression doesn't fit that... she's not angry or afraid, those deep eyes with little tears... they scream for revenge.

How about the viewer holding her crown, or even better Celestia's crown, or Shining armor's helmet, or some other symbol of someone she knows and loves being defeated broken or captured just like she is. She knows bad things are coming for her, but she doesn't care right now. Right now she wants her captor dead dead. And whatever is coming next she's going to endure it... or at least she'll try. Which is going to make it so much sweeter when she breaks, since she won't be just losing herself, but also (in her head) betraying whoever it was her captor hurt. Because she was enduring it for them and she failed.

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>>27510160
>It doesn't look liker her hindlegs are supported, which means that she's hanging by her forelegs - ouch.
Depends on how realistic we're talking. If we're going moderately realistic, her shoulders are broken and her hooves dislocated. If we're discarding reality for the illusion/story then I have no issue believing it's mild and she can withstand it.

>>27510572
"You should have just walked out of the room."
>She flinches as you raise your hand.
"But no, you couldn't do that, could you?"
>Her eyes never waver as you bring your open palm down on her cheek.
>They don't soften as you undo the strap holding her gag in place.
"Apologize."
>Admitting her mistake is the first step.
>You're a kind man. You won't push for more than that now.
>"Just let us go," the mare croaks, her throat dry and burning.
>At least, you assume it is.She hasn't had anything to drink since before yesterday.
"Let you go?"
>Cadence nods, her pure hatred never slipping from her face.
"And throw Flurry Heart to the wolves? Someone would have to be truly heartless to do that."
>"Please."
"I'll keep her - and you - safe from Celestia."
>"I want to leave. We can go."
"No."
>"Princess Celestia -"
"THAT BITCH stole everything from me!"
>She doesn't cry out as the back of your hand strikes her muzzle.
>For some reason, you find that infuriating.
"She's as much my enemy as yours!"
>You strike her again.
"She stole my life and my memories from me!"
>Again.
"I don't even remember my name!"
>Again.
"I'll keep you safe! I'll keep your daughter safe!"
>Again.
>"She's not -!"
>Again, harder this time. Hard enough to leave the alicorn dazed.
>She's not going to apologize.
>With a sigh, you shove the ball back into Cadence's mouth.
"I'll ask again tomorrow."
>She regains her senses as you buckle the strap in place, feebly attempting to pull free.
"Maybe I'll let you see your daughter, if you finally comply."
>Her head jerks wildly, sending the mare swinging gently back and forth on the iron chain.
>For a minute her eyes break with yours. For a minute, the pain in her legs and shoulders is enough to overwhelm every other thought.

>>27510913
>You wait for the mare to stop swinging.
>She won't hear a word you say.
>It takes too long - you reach out a hand and grab the fur of her chest, steadying the mare.
>You wait for her eyes to open again. When they do, her hatred is undiminished.
"Don't worry, Cadence."
>She tries to kick out at you with her hind legs, but the angle is poor and her remaining strength even more so.
"I won't touch Flurry Heart until you beg me to."

>>27510852
I was imagining semi-realistic - probably dislocated, horrifically painful, but not broken or permanently crippled.

>>27510942
>Spontaneous green
>In SiM
Is this an alternate universe?

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>>27512950
Been known to happen. Hell featured story was a result of this pic if I recall.

>>27512950
Sorry, I won't do it again.

>>27510942
I enjoyed this.

Only real criticism is the weird uniformity in dialog to description during the first part (which may have been on purpose?) was somehow distracting.

It builds a really nice atmosphere while leaving a lot of the details to the imagination, and is definitely a good match for the pic.

>>27506786
I do wish I knew.

Great taste, Anon.

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>>27513015
Y u do dis? No. U keep riting. Mak soft parts hard. Leaky leaky. Stroky stroky. Gud time for erybody. U no lisen to dick sheath nigger up ther. U rite gud. Be hapy.

>>27503236
So I did promise you guys a Bluebird update, and unfortunately I'm going to have to admit I simply cannot deliver at this point. I'm in a bit of a tight spot with the current section, and on top of that last weekend was absolute hell.

Also, this Cadance pic has given me ideas. I may do a short piece based on that.

I guess I could do a bit more of >>27510942 at some point. Let's turn it into a mini CYOA.
How big of a piece of shit is our nameless protagonist?
How bad is Cadence's situation?
What's the end goal here?

Holding on a more complex response, but can we leave Flurry out of it (except maybe as a plot element)?

Weird to say in this thread, but going after children is well beyond my comfort limit.

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>>27514710
Don't worry, we'll be gentle.

>>27514125
I started lurking these threads to find Bluebird again. That being said, please take care of whatever you need to. I can honestly say I'd happily read anything you make, and I hope at some point you will go back to it. Thanks for what you've made so far. Good luck, and godspeed.

>>27514182
1) Zealot. He thinks he's totally in the right, no matter what. He can do whatever he wants because his actions are "Justified".
2) She has no known allies. She must either break, or struggle to deceive her captor while simultaneously winning help from other sources. Resolve is meaningless in the face of her captor's influence and resources. Resistance without aid is futile.
3)Mr. Zealot wants Cadance as an ally. "Of her own free will" by his standards. Killing her or keeping her imprisoned is not an option, she must come to see the light.

>>27514779
I've never wanted to dick anything so gently in my entire life.

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>>27511708

>>27510160
>>27510942
We get a picture AND a story that goes with it? What an awesome start for a new thread.

>>27514182
>How big of a piece of shit is our nameless protagonist?
Someone who's not above using her daughter against her if he needs to.

>How bad is Cadence's situation?
anon really hates her aunt and wants to use Cadance against her so... pretty bad.

>What's the end goal here?
Anon wants Cadance to marry him, to gain political power and spite Celestia.

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>>27514182
>>27510160
Same guy here. Do I not get a say in the direction of the story? Anyway, an update. Just have the hair shading to do and then that should be done.

>>27516107
high res?

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>>27516149
I'll post it when I'm done with the drawing.

>>27516107
>Do I not get a say in the direction of the story?
If you say anything, sure. If not, then no.

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>>27516304
You guys can do whatever you want with the image, doesn't bother me; but, the direction of the story seems a tad extreme, verging on edgy.

>abusing daughters
>killing off Shining, putting the kingdom in a shit situation, Celly doing some vague evil shit

I don't know about you but, that just puts me off from a story. It feels, 'forced', that's not the exact word I want but it's along that line. You're asking the reader to accept a lot of assumptions in order for the scenario to work and that's just strenous and not what I would consider good quality writing. For something like a one shot, I think it's normally best to take Occam's razer's line of reasoning in setting something up - the simplest answer is often the best.

I didn't have anything in mind when I drew it, things just progressed to what you see, the anatomy is not anatomically correct because the easiest way to draw that pose was to lean towards anthro a bit. It is rather humorous to see comments interpretting her arms as broken. It's cool to see people's takes on something vary from my own.
So, that's why I wanted to leave everything open.

Maybe cut the whole zealot/forced marriage/torture aspect of the story? It's probably too late for that but, what if it's an interrogation? Focus it on her thoughts and feelings of being bound for an extended period of time, have the meetings with Anon (if you want to keep Anon) be focused on teases, gradual build up of a rocky relationship before he rapes her? And this is what breaks her. I don't know. Just a thought.

>>27516536
Monnaniverse?

>>27516536
When's your next fic reading planned to be released? If you don't mind me asking.

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>>27516579
Oh shit, this is weird. Someone here recognizes me. That's pretty cool <3

All of my efforts are going into my exams and making my transition into university smooth so I don't have a personal channel upload lining up. I have that charity event in June which will be taking up my efforts once exams are over. I do have two collab things with someone else that I've done, one is a fic reading of Gleaming Shield's Teats and the other is me voicing an Anon in a fic called 'A Dozen Strawberries'.

That's really it, I've been laying off the channel to focus on other matters and so you don't see weekly uploads anymore.

>>27516656
Good luck on your exams, and please read more stallion x stallion eventually.

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>>27516718
RIP quads. Checked.

You need to mix your sounds a bit better, I'm assuming the crackling is a fireplace SFX that you added in? It's too loud, it's on the same level as your voice and so gets in the way, lower it to around -10 db and you should be good.

You make a couple of mistakes in the reading, at one point, I think you redid a whole line. That can be edited out and should be edited out. Also, as you get nearer to the end, you seem to tend more and more towards just reading it instead of narrating it. Maybe you're not comfortable with what was written? Or, maybe it's just that the material isn't good. Either way, improvements.

But, your voice is pretty nice.

>>27516726
I normally fix stuff like that. This was for 4chan and I knew nobody would really care so I didn't bother fixing some of my mistakes. The crackling was a fire place sound effect. And thanks for the advice and complimenting my voice (I honestly don't understand why people like it.)

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>>27516107
Alright. Final update. Basically finished. Hope you guys/gals enjoy it.

>>27517224
Really well done. I like it.

>>27517224
Dayum. I really like this.

The crystalline look of the dungeon help to explain some of the anomalous lighting - reflected light from the original source. I also really like the little anatomical touches like the tufts of disturbed hair, tendons in her shoulder, and chest/belly details. And, of course, you do a very good job of putting a lot of emotion into her expression.

Criticisms: The horn angle is still a bit wonky, and her mane/tail is short (though maybe it's been cut?) and I'd personally prefer seeing her wings over the bags/sheaths. Though, as a drawfag myself, I can understand not wanting to try and draw out dirtied/messed up wings.

Overall? Really great pic.

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>>27518875

>>27519605
:^)

I just read the entire MrNameless pastebin.
I guess that's all there is, it isnt being worked on anymore?

>>27519977
There are some other stories written in the same universe (most notably Octavia POV, also mentioned in the OP), but the main story is dead and MrNameless has been missing for over a year

>>27520023
though I dont suppose there's a gallery or tag anywhere specifically referring to the fic?

>>27520183
All the from SiM-verse stories are in the pastebin mentioned in the OP.
>(Non-Canon SiM Expanded Universe Stories)
>Octavia POV (Recommended) http://pastebin.com/Y2AahdQp
>Other Stories - http://pastebin.com/3AFdqxvs

If you're asking how closely related the stories are to the original... Octavia is the very same story, but seen from Octavia's perspective. The other stories are usually from "some point in the future", and usually show Anon dealing with various side characters.

>>27520284
I mean pictures, I saw the pastebins.

>>27520288
Unfortunately no proper image archive.

I am personally aware of 7 images that were drawn for the main story universe over time. Let me see if I can go dig up the list of them someone made once...

Bump before bed.

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>>27523535
Likewise

these fics make me feel things im not sure I want to feel

This thread feels like rekt threads on /gif/, you expect funny animations of people slipping and falling on the ass or slamming their faces on road signs, but you get a regular gore thread with nothing to entertain you.
This thread is too edgy to my taste.

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>>27524902
this if my first time visiting these threads and im just working my way through the pastas for now. They make me feel conflicted.

So far this thread doesnt look too edgy, though I agree with your sentiment. pain or mutilation can be inflicted by the dominant party, but thats not the point of dominance, its just too easy of a way to do things. Its about breaking the will, the mind of the sub, not the body.

are there any more interactions between rainbow dash and applejack? I like the direction MrNameless was going with their dynamic.

b@mp

>>27522235
Found the post with the commissioned images for the main story:

>Of the 3 on DB:
>961232 is Octavia.
>862422 is Twilight
>881031 is Fluttershy
>Of the 4 that are only on his blog:
>http://datte-before-dawn.tumblr.com/post/129186068416 - Pinkie
>http://datte-before-dawn.tumblr.com/post/127539543126 - Celestia
>http://datte-before-dawn.tumblr.com/post/122645171666 - Applejack
>http://datte-before-dawn.tumblr.com/post/117065475851 - Rainbow

>>27527114
Ah that Twilight one. I remember the shitfit that the over the top Twifag autist threw, he went by Jin I think.

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>>27506786
I have some collars.

>>27519977
>>27520023
Just finished Octavia's POV.
this whole thing reminds me why I dont usually get into fanfics, I really like the world he's created and I want to see where things go next, but since he's MIA I will never know.

It makes me want to try and write shit myself, but I know how much I suck at that.

>>27527740
>It makes me want to try and write shit myself, but I know how much I suck at that.
Do it anyway. We all suck at the beginning.

>>27527740
Octavia POV was written by Escapade, who does is still around here I think, maybe. His last project is basically dead as well, so I'm worried.

haven't ben lurking for a while
are there some new writefags or good stories worth reading?

was gone for about 15 threads got bored and disapointed with this whole midnight bs

>>27527862
Fifteen threads? Uuh...Sounds like you stopped showing up right before Olibird's CYOA got started.

>>27527946
my life in a nutshell.... as soon as i turn my back on anything it's getting interesting

tho i gotta admit i never liked his writting in the first place, not saying he's bad just ain't my jam

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>>27527740

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>>27528012
that webm is so fucking true god damn

>>27528012
>>27528108
pretty acurate to the whole MrN drama

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>>27528012
I always imagining Anons sudden death and given characters' reaction on it.

>>27528012
I've never seen a better webm

Also gives me a guilty conscience not for this thread though yet

>>27528151
drama?

>>27527790
I just read one of his other stories. I cant say im as big of a fan of the Nightmare Moon POV.

>>27527788
but I dont know anything about writing, and dont read nearly enough to really understand how to structure even a half baked story. Im much more visually oriented.

>>27528293
Give it a shot anyway. Worst that can happen is we tell you to kill yourself, which is basically a friendly 'hello' on 4chan.

>>27528293
Paint the visuals then. The whole story can be just one scene. Short stories are stories too.

>>27528337
>>27528372
Ill think about it, and maybe attempt it tomorrow. its getting late here and I got shit to do.
Im mostly intimidated by the nature of the subject. I feel like there's some muance to this stuff because its all very much a psychological power game. It intimidates me.

>>27527264
Hahaha, yes. The Jin rage - I still get a chuckle out of that.

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>>27503168
Dude where is the rest of the octavia pov story? Im at 7837 and theres no more
Also any scenes where she gets
>raped

>>27528706
The closest you're going to get to that is the story 'A Warning'

>>27529148
so what about the rest of the octavia story
also link to a warning?

>>27529175

http://pastebin.com/irHL4UNf for A warning

There is no rest of the Octavia story. Esc stopped writing it there.

>>27529371
but why?
Does Esc still write stuff?

>>27529425
>but why
Green gets left unfinished/on permanent hiatus all the time. Authors get tired of it, or run out of ideas, or find other things they'd rather write, etc. It's actually rare to see green reach an actual ending, most just kinda drift off.

>still around
He wrote a tonne of stuff afterwards (some of which tied into the same Octavia/NMM/Anon stuff) and as far as I know is still around.

>>27527740
>>27528706
C-Can I haves reviews? (It's honestly been /forever/ since I've head new people read it, so feedback would still be awesome. Please forgive the early green's //terrible// quality.

>>27527790
I think the Cadence story might be kill as well. It's a monster to work with, and honestly the time/likelihood of success balance feels wrong. If you guys want it I'll try, but I might look somewhere else.

>It makes me want to try and write shit myself, but I know how much I suck at that.
>Doesn't know I read MrN's Submission is Mandatory, decided I had story ideas as well, and tried it. Just try it. We aren't expecting Shakespeare.

>>27528293
>Don't like NMM POV.
Makes sense, but depending on the story you read, you might not have enjoyed the tone. What type of story are you looking for? Perhaps I could point you to something in my catalog that fits?

>>27510913
You got one follower.

>>27529649
my biggest complaint/critique is the spelling mistakes (shear - sheer) and repeating phrases. But besides that I really enjoyed it all.

I liked seeing what was supposively going on during the events of the main story. I liked reading Octavia's inner monologues.
When things get dark and gritty, but not edgy and characters feel conflicted or are manipulated make me feel things im not sure I want to feel, but I keep reading anyways. Maybe its cause I only recently beat dark souls and that I have a very limited frame of reference for this sort of thing, but it all seemed harsh and brutal without a filter. Not dramatized like Hollywood which would make it feel faker.

>>27529702
>>27529649
I don't know what I like to be honest. I don't usually readcfanfic at all, and I'm still so new to mlp.

I liked the bits with rainbow dash and applejack, and their dynamic in the original. I guess I like seeing characters coerced into situations they don't know how to deal with?

PS pls make more Octavia POV

>>27529649
>Cadence story might be kill
I wouldn't mind this myself. I was never able to get into it, so, from a purely selfish point of view, I'd like to see some other things from you.
Not to mention, it's almost always beneficial for the majority if the auther is writing something they actually enjoy writing.

And as far as I'm concerned, your NMM stuff is all top tier

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>>27529371
>there is no remainder to the story
>mfw

>>27529649
octavia story is good, not much to say about it its just the original one but from her point of view, very well made, your also having to continue beyond the original because the original is shorter


is the cadence one the one where she rides anon to save her husband or whatever?

>>27531632
Actually, in length I believe Octavia POV is longer, but in terms of chronology, I POV is actually still behind the main story. The current is before Anon leaves AJ, RD, and Octavia in a room together, and certainly before Octavia's scene with the staff.

>>27529649
>I think the Cadence story might be kill as well.
I'm okay with this. It had a rough start and didn't really grip me.

It was mostly about Cadance reacting to stuff or delaying choices. With little of her own (and therefore ours) say in what was going to happen next. It felt like we were picking form a predetermined set of choices rather than crafting our own.

That's entirely fine in a regular story like Octavia PoV (please write more of that), but doesn't really fit a CYOA.

>>27532604
you are correct.
which is a shame because AJ and RD's dynamic is my favorite.

>>27534164
I think the premise could work but the way it's looking now doesnt really, imo. Maybe if there was some build up leading to this point?

are writefags even real?

>>27535678
How can writefags be real if our eyes aren't real?

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>>27535678
He isn't real

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>>27536738
Oooh, I like this. I'm a sucker for linked jewelry like that, I admit.

>>27536738
>dem floppy ears
>dat raised tail
This shouldn't make me this hard.

>>27537119
YOU FUCKER! WHY'D YOU POINT THAT OUT I JACKED OFF TWO TIMES ALREADY AND I'M HARD AGAIN DAM YOU!

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>>27536738
oh damn
>>27537119
not to ruin your hard on but the ears aren't floppy they are just pinned down because she is submissive
also the tail is raised either because of some feature of the outfit that forces it up or she is doing it on her own which would be even hotter

>>27537212
lol

>>27537444
Disagreed. The fact that's she's forced into this (as evidenced by her tears), is way hotter than her doing it of her own volition would be.

Her ears are weighted down to make her look submissive, whether she likes it or not. Her tail is raised, to make it look she's offering herself like a whorse, whether she likes it or not. She hates what's about to happen to her, but she's forced into looking like she's looking forward to it.

You get all the deliciousness of rape with some extra humiliation instead of the usual violence.

It's way better this way.

>>27537563
No I wasn't arguing that she is coerced into it, I was saying that she understands her situation and is giving into it, she is pinning her ears down like some animals do out of fear or submission, and she is raising her tail due to the same

Either that or the outfit pins her ears down and raises her tail, but I can't tell which so we'd need the artist to tell us

>>27537563
>>27537609
Either way she isn't gonna fight whats cumming

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Anon who did that Cadance drawing yesterday here. Did this, WIP. Is it okay so far? I'll change the ears when I wake up.

The drawing is a bit plain, I would like to add some more to the drawing but don't know exactly what. What's the scenario behind the picture? I was thinking of putting a garter belt and stockings and maybe a Vietnamese Ao Dai or something like that on her, extend the rope bondage into a shibari BUT I'm completely open to better ideas.

>>27537690
what character is it gonna be?
also looks hot but the shoulders are too human like, rest of the body is fine though

the mouth gag thing is fine but change it from a dog bone into something else

ao dai is fine

I feel like shibaris take away from the hotness of her body itself

>>27537690
I don't like this image. Looks waaaaay too anthro for may tastes. The muzzle is too small for a pony, the shoulders are obviously humanoid... and adding human clothes is only going to make it worse.

Don't let me discourage you though, someone else will like it.

>>27537690
wip with no censor?

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>>27536738
ive never tried drawing like this before, so here's an unshaded image with a quick background.

you know, 6 years ago I saw this show and thought "this isnt for me"
when I finally started watching I though "I dont understand why the fanbase loves this so much"
then I thought "ill never understand the lewds"
then I thought "ill never draw the lewds"
yet here I am.

>>27538854
Welcome to the club.
>Man lewds feel wierd even reading
>Eh I guess I'll writefag, but not sex stories
>Fine, they'll have sex. But I'm not writing explicit stuff
>I'm writing explicit
>I'm writing horse BDSM rape lewds
Just sit back and have fun. I've realized it's not worth stressing over.

>>27538981
its not something I stressed over, its really just not something I'd expect myself ever doing, or getting into. It just goes to show you don't know yourself as well as you think you do.

now here's hoping a writefag likes it and wants to write a story around it.

>>27538854
I like the image but I think you could use a better color scheme. Those black hoofguards don't really stand out int hat background.

How about making the jewelry god, and the connecting lines silver or red? Someone obviously dressed her up to look good for them, they would want her to stand out and look expensive. While Twilight wonders how was she reduced to this, from the most gifted of unicorns and hero of Equestria, to someone's decorative sex toy.

Damn I love that face.

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>>27537609
horses with ears pinned are aggressive actually.

A submissive horse tends to face you directly and not show it's flank or side, as that would mean you aren't a threat.

Twilight's neck is also held high (its way too fucking short in the image though, whoever drew it needs to make it long enough to reach the ground at her hooves with her teeth. ) High necks represent alertness. If twilight lowers her head to be just above her withers from the crest, that is a very submissive posture. Conversly, if she lowered it a bit more and pinned her ears back, it would be very agressive, a snakeing manuever. A relaxed low head is neither submissive nor aggressive, but is very calm, and is usually because the horse is eating.

If twilight had her ears pinned back, this would be snaking, if she raised her head just a little bit and stood at attention, she would be submissive.

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>>27539200
my colour theory in general is real weak, and I wanted to throw some kind of background behind it. But you're right.

I wanted to avoid gold because I associate gold with the sun and there's already some white gold on the magic inhibitor thingy. The silver and thin see-through material was attempts to associate it more with the moon. the dark background was meant to go with it but it does do a poor job making them stand out.

>>27539253
Different anon, but the light background makes _all_ the difference.

Only thing I don't love about this is the chain (or braided leather?) gag thing. It looks way heavier than everything else, and the way it goes under her hair just doesn't look quite right.

Definitely love the thin material, and personally I think the black hoof guards/dark colors work really well, especially with the light background.

I'm a sucker for bells/jangly stuff to make one self conscious of every movement.

>>27539287 (You)
I should clarify, the short neck I'm referring to is in this image.
>>27539299
as long as I'm on art critique, the muzzle seems very narrow. something seems wrong with the eyes as well, but I cant put my finger on it.

>>27539287
as for my image. It's worth noting that the facial structure on the one I posted is completely fucked thanks to the forward facing eyes.

>>27539329
youre right, I kind of rushed it cause I wanted something to bump the thread with. the black outlines are way too thick.

I hadnt planned the bridle out when I started sketching, and got lazy so I just made it go under the hair. I realize now that if im going to do it, I should do it right.

im glad you like the little bell, that was my exact thought behind it.

>>27539349
not disagreeing but I made the neck look short for the sake of emulating human behaviour, where one pulls their neck in and shoulders up.
Im not at all familliar with horse body language.

>>27539287
That's most likely true for real horses, but I prefer pony expressions be closer to humans than actual horses.

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>>27539200
>to someones decorative sex toy

you just made me light headed from the hotness of that concept

>>27539370
Not that anon, but I had a similar feeling with the bridle. I think it's because it looks very thick, but also very flat. A little shading would go a long with to giving it some sense of depth.

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>>27539373
you can prefer it, but canon is that they have horse eyes with a narrow bridge between them, you can see they are capable of seeing things behind them and looking at someone directly at their side from this image without neck craning.

>>27539370
Body language isn't really what I was getting at for the art critique, it was body proportions. This next image I'll post should clarify what i meant by the shortness of the neck better.

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>>27539565
This is the image in question. showing in detail a more accurate and flexible neck capable of reaching the ground to pick up objects without having to kneel much, it might even be a little too long, but not by much. Horse hooves hold about 70% of their weight on the front two, and mlp pones don't seem to be an exception.

>>27539373
Yeah, I tend to lean more on that side of the spectrum too when it comes to drawings.

I mean it's cool when writers work bits of actual equine behaviour into their stuff (especially if it's explained), but in an image it's a lot harder to communicate those kind of unintuitive details.

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hows that?

>>27539424
im glad you like it, thats the idea I was going for/

>>27535678
>you will never look in your favorite thread and see some green
>you will never fall in love with the characters or the vividly drawn world
>you will never wonder about the little hints sowed throughout the story
>you will never F5 all day hoping for another update
>you will never feel the pleasure when it's finally there
>you will never feel the sadness when you read it and you have to wait again
Why live?

>>27540111
to drive away any further potential writefags from sullying this tomb of a thread?

>monthly doomsayer post
See you again in July!

>>27540111
>>27540142
We have TWO drawfags here right now. That's two times as many as we've ever had before. Shut up, we're not dead yet.

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>>27539990
alright last update for the night, I gotto get to sleep.
mostly just changed her left leg cause it looked noodly.

>>27540260
I dont like the wrinkles underneath her eyes, makes her look old

>>27540357
Seconded. She looks old, not weary or depressed.

>>27540357
>>27540482
>not wanting to rape wingless MILF Twilight

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>>27540357
>>27540482
though I dont mind the weary part personally, here you go.

Bump before bed.

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>>27538854
That pic works so well for your post!

So I'm scrolling through the catalog and see >>27540057

>>27542737
I... guess it does, huh.

I've been feeling a lot of conflicting feels lately.

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>>27543664
Are you ok? What's going on man?

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>>27543722
yeah im fine, Im just not used to feeling unsure, I suppose.

ive always had a very dominating personality. Feeling insecure and reading about these sorts of mind games is way out of my comfort zone. Joining on /mlp/ in general has actually impacted me more than I'd like to admit. I welcome it though, its a chance to learn about myself and grow.
Also I just caught up Ask Molestia.

now where are those writefags at?

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>>27543880
Wait the Princess Molly blog is back up!?

>>27544026
no, I read the archives up on exhentai.
sorry

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>>27544071
Oh ok.

>>27544259
As if to further shit on the parade, hasn't jj said he's pretty much tired of ponies?

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>>27544673
Yeah.

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>>27544704
Shame

trips tell truth

any drawan ideas?

>>27545640
How about a nervous Fluttershy leading a kitted out Applejack?

By kitted out I mean wearing a saddle with a bridle and all that other fancy stuff?

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>>27545752

>>27546926
I think Applejack would look better without those ear rings. And maybe her hair ornament from simple ways >pic related. It's clear that she's wearing the same design as Twilight did (and Fluttershy is probably leading her to their master's bedroom because she knows that trying to stop it will only make things worse for both of hem), but the dresses shouldn't be completely uniform. Each pony needs something that makes them and their dress personal.

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>>27547147
fuck

>>27547147
that is a good call. I hadnt really considered the outfit much yet since I was focussing on the proportions and making sure there was enough room for a saddle and what have you. But I really like your suggestion so I'm gonna see what I can do with that. Thanks!

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>>27546926
>>27547176
Very nice anon. Can't wait to see the next iteration of your art.

If I may suggest to keep the little accessory that the leash is attached to, but remove the leash itself and have Fluttershy using the reins themselves to lead Applejack?

Pic of pony with reins for comparison in case you didn't know what they were. I know stupid assumption, but you never know.

I'd draw something, but the best I'd ever done was those macaroni drawings from 3rd grade.

>>27547407
I was actually just thinking about that!
Its not a stupid assumption to make, English isnt my native language and horse specific phrases arent exactly part of the cirriculum. I really appreciate it.

And dont feel bad about your drawing skills, we all have to start somewhere. Even if you feel you can't draw very well, you can always have creative ideas you could share if you wanted to.

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>>27503168
Jesus christ, more images like in the OP please.

>>27528012
so true fucking writefags

>>27528012
>tfw the author of a S.T.A.L.K.E.R crossover fic i like might be irl ded.

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>>27548550
Ooooo I like this one.

Fluttershy looks like she's having a worse time than AJ.

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>>27548550
It looks nice anon. Have you considered making her saddle a bit frilly?

If you're drawing these two in Mr Nameless's story, then a frilly saddle could be used to represent how anon is just teasing Applejack instead of just plowing her fields.

I haven't been around for a while, but how has everyone been?

>>27549341
pic unrelated?

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>>27549382
Just another picture of Applejack wearing a full "kit."

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>>27549341
>>27549437
prrrrrrromotions

and yes I am drawing these in the context of MrNameless' story, though not a specific scenario that's taken place in the main story.
I got this for the frilly saddle idea. Also note that some of the colours like the saddle, the reins and the straps on Applejack maybe be subject to change. I finished zoning out the saddle before settling on colours for example

>>27549341
>how has everyone been
Not bad, still working away.

>Fluttershy looks like she's having a worse time than AJ.
Well, who's going to feel worse, the one who is being tormented or the one who has to help in that torment? AJ knows she's in for it, but at least she can take it defiantly and suffer. Flutters, though - she knows she has to put an innocent pony in a situation both unwanted and (to her shy nature) highly mortifying.

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>>27549659
Forget the picture? It's happened to everyone m80, no deleting spaghetti.
>>27549685
I don't remember his story having a scene like this since it was Rainbow Dash paired with Applejack desu. Don't get me wrong though, the reason I suggested Fluttershy was because it would be more damning to her than it would Rainbow Dash or rather I like to think it would be.

It looks great though lad. I wasn't initially thrilled with Applejack's short tail, but am glad to have waited to see it in color. Her mane having been dolled up and tail shortened is an excellent visual combination.

I've never seen reins with the little "loops", but they do add a bit of visual flair to the reins and the little slippers are a nice touch as well.

I await your finished piece with bated breath.

>>27549864
Working on what pray tell? Also the reason why I suggested Fluttershy instead of Rainbow Dash. Pic semi related.

>>27549991
consider, right now Rainbow Dash is sitting in her room, knowing she'll have to sit through whatever punishment AJ gets if she messes up aswell.M aster had said AJ's mistakes were her mistakes, as were the punishments.

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It's 5 AM and I cant words good no more. going to bed now.

All I'm thinking now is that there's Rainbow Dash in the other room, responsible for AJ's behaviour. If AJ messes up, she messes up, if AJ gets punished, she gets punished.
Fluttershy is super uncomfortable having to move and in all likelihood withness her friend being used by their master.
All the while AJ is super uncomfortable with her outfit and her lot in life right now.

Anon presumibly is just sitting in his chamber making stupid noises with his mouth.


>>27549991
I meant to say it's not based on any particular scenario, just the setting. Though I imagined it playing after the point where Rainbow gets put in charge of AJ.
Im glad you like the creative choices I've made with this. Colour esspecially is not my strongest point and I'm trying a buncha new techniques with these. /mlp/ is really getting me to try all sorts of new stuff, I like it.

>>27549864
I aimed to sort of include all 3. But I agree.

also I delete my mess-ups cause I dont want to fill the thread with useless posts. Im spamming enough as it is with these WIPs.

>>27550434
With my semi-expert opinion, I think AJ's outfit is a little... Much? The saddle makes sense, the tail wrap makes sense; not so much the hoof guards and hair.

Remember, for a moment Anon /honestly/ started looking at her like livestock. Like a /actual/ horse. I think keeping that mind would help you understand how she functions as a character, assuming it's relatively early in the story. She's a pony who, by nature of her orgasm denial is practically in heat.

>Drawfag
Don't take my critique as criticism. It's not. I'm honestly estatic we have someone who wants to draw for us. Having art for /any/ of this is amazing, even if small things don't seem perfect. Been here since thread 1 and this hasn't happened before. I don't mind the WIP post at all.

>>27550755
you make some good points. The idea behind it was to make her uncomfortable, not make her feel like lifestock but to get her out of her comfort zone. Farm stuff and what have you. But I think you understand the story a lot better than I do.

thats something to consider for next time.

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>>27550434
>pic
Very nice. I'm imagining Fluttershy apologizing to AJ, who wants to say "It's okay ah know you have no choice", but can't get it out of her mouth, because she doesn't really believe it, and now she's ashamed of blaming her friend for not standing up to anon when she herself isn't brave enough to do it either.

>I'm spamming enough as it is with these WIPs
Here we call it "keeping the thread alive". It's a good thing.

>>27550755
>I think AJ's outfit is a little... Much?
I completely disagree. It's overdone, yes, but It's supposed to be like that. It'snot just about making her look pretty, but also about taking away AJ's identity.

Manestyle is one of pone's most identifiable features (right after cutie mark), so she's forced to have a mane that's completely unlike what she had before. She worked with her hoover her whole life, so she gets hoofguards to cover them.

>>27551537

>>27503168

>>27552114
>I'm imagining Fluttershy apologizing to AJ
Funny, my mind went in the completely opposite direction. I picture AJ trying to re-assure Fluttershy, but given the facial expressions and AJ being the element of honesty and all that, yours probably makes more sense.

Agree on the outfit, making AJ wear something over the top like this is very fitting. It's already canon that she hates dressing up, and this is like a level above that.

>spamming thread with wip
This thread is normally long periods of empty bumps with occasional large dumps of green. Actual content is always welcome and sorely needed, so it's definitely appreciated.

>>27552114
>Mane
>Hoofguards

Both valid points,especially the Hoofguards. I never really considered the "block earth pony hooves" factor here.

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little to no sleep? check
shaking hands? check
prioritizing drawing implicit horses for strangers on the internet over school work? check
apples? definitely check.

>>27556914
You know what would make this image better? A spreader bar between her hindlegs.

Anyway, I appreciate the effort, man. You're the coolest drawfag we ever had.

>>27557493
>You're the coolest drawfag
that's really sad

I forgot the spreader, actually. Thanks for reminding me.

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>>27550434
I wouldn't call it spamming. As someone who can't draw for shit I like seeing the process behind art. Stupid Pencils being over in Finland and starting a stream at 3 AM.

The finished product looks pretty damn good. The way the frills on her saddle are ever so see through really do give the impression that Applejack is more of a showcase pony or a pony that you'd parade around for everyone to see as opposed to her rough and tough, down and dirty way of being. The purple fabric on the reins also serves to reinforce that notion.

The reins that Fluttershy is leading Applejack have that I can see two "streaks" of purple to them. Was that a design choice?

The expressions make it so that it makes you wonder who is more ashamed or nervous about the whole scenario. Fluttershy, who is taking her provocatively dolled up friend to anon, or Applejack who knows just how exposed she is and the thought of what might await in anon's bedchambers.

Many thanks anon, you brought my suggestion to life and did a fan-fucking-tastic job of it. I'll be looking forward to more of your art if you decide to grace our presence.

>>27558342

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>>27557545
you mean this? it's meant to indicate where the cloth is overlapping on the folds.

Im glad I managed to convey everything I was trying to convey with this, and that you liked what I ended up doing with your suggestion!

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>>27559153
I also had this idea as a bit of an afterthought.

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>>27559055
Not that part, the actual reins in Fluttershy's mouth. I circled the portion I was talking about.

It doesn't show too well on my picture, but in the picture from >>27550434 I notice little purple streaks on the reins. maybe I'm just seeing things though.

>>27559173
if there's purple on the leash, that was unintentional.

>>27559153
>>27559168
That's a silly pony alright.

The second one could be interpreted in multiple ways. Is anon pounding her from behind or is she in a reverse stockade like Applejack? Rainbow Dash's ass up in the air instead of her head I mean.

>>27559198
You can't really see it in my picture, but if you look in that same area in yours you should notice it. Wasn't sure if it was intentional or not, but it stood out and thought it'd be worth the mention.

You should get some rest anon, no need to burn yourself out after all.

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>>27559228
It's about midnight, I might shade the applejack picture a bit more but that's about was much as I'll get done today. I've got a busy week ahead so I want to finish this up before monday hits.

My original idea was to just have Anon's hands on Rainbow Dash's wings, but since im doing a sillouette I could pretty easily adjust it.


I see what you mean about the leash now, those were meant to serve as highlights.

>>27559168
Assuming It's RD being pounded by Anon, shouldn't AJ be looking at it, instead of turning her eyes up?

In the RD-less version, I imagined she was looking up At Anon standing in front of her, looking as sorry and as submissive as she can, silently begging Anon to touch her.

I like the idea Of Anon having sex with someone else in front of her, especially after Anon had her all dolled up like a whorse, And she went through the self-hating trip of, on some level, actually looking forward to being raped by him

The silhouette is in the wrong place, though. The way it's now she's thinking "By Celestia make it end", instead of "Me too! me too master! Pleaseeeeeee!" which would be way hotter.

Maybe instead of silhouette, there could be a shadow on the ground in front of her? If it was coming from the left, it would look like AJ is looking above RD's head, where Anon's face would be, and trying to make him feel sorry for her and let her have fun too.

>>27559386
the idea I had was for Anon to be massaging Rainbow Dash's wings. The idea would be that he's sort of towering over them? I donno, like I said, I added it as an afterthought and when I do that the general composition of the picture tends to fall apart. I really like your shadow idea, since one of the main problems with the sillouette idea was that it would obscure Applejack.

You were right to assume Applejack was *meant* to be looking up at Anon though.
Maybe I should do a dolled up version of this, too? As a direct continuation from the previous one. Although for that my idea would have involved Rainbow Dash having to sit and wait, hoping AJ didn't mess anything up since they were both receiving her punishments now.
I suppose that doesn't matter much for the sake of having an alt version to an image though.

>>27559425
My idea was:

Anon has AJ dolled up and brought in for what AJ thinks is sex. Anon takes AJ, put sher in stocks and lock her legs open, basically getting her into a perfect breeding position and letting her know she's about to be rutted.

And then he doesn't lay a finger on her, but calls for RD instead. RD comes in, sees applejack in bondage and is like "OH SHIT, she fucked something up, Anon's about to pluck my wings clean". But all Anon does is tell RD to get on the bed (facing AJ), and then he gets on the bed behind her and tells her to show her friend how are sex-slave supposed to please their master.

So RD bends over and thrusts herself on Anon's dick with maximum enthusiasm because she thinks that Anon /did/ have sex with AJ but didn't like it, so now she has to fuck him real good to save both herself and AJ from Anon's sexually frustrated wrath. But what's really happening is that she's helping Anon torture AJ with sexual frustration even more, because he didn't fuck her, and now he's making her watch as her friend is rutting him hard and moaning out loud like if her life depended on it.

Aaaaaand that's why AJ has the look she does.

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>>27559386
>>27559425
>>27559626

>>27559153
Guess the mods still look in on this from time to time. Or a rulefag does.

>>27559965
im just relieved that wasnt a ban.

>>27559965
It's weird though, that picture wasn't technically lewd.

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>>27559986
Yeah, knock on wood mate. The moderation on this board is peculiar to say the least. You may want to look into just posting links instead since I guess fluids are deemed explicit.

Oh and look into 4chanx if you'd like. Let's you see images posted in forms of link. So if someone posts a derpibooru link, you'll see the actual image. It has other useful uses as well such as being able to see (dead) posts.

>>27560034
Yeah, guess fluids is considered explicit now. Strange how an 18+ site runs its 18+ My Little Pony board, but it is what it is son.

A moment of silence for the deleted picture.
Glad I saved it earlier.

>>27560107
imgur should be fine though, right?

also update. Im having a hard time figuring out how to add either a shadow or a sillouette that'll properly fit in.


http://imgur.com/a/uiPEq

>>27560174
I don't think the shadow needs to be so detailed, all we need is Anon's head and RD's head, to piece together what's going on. The rest of their bodies is not needed.

>>27560174
>>27560354
http://imgur.com/a/pULYz

>>27560632
Definitely better. How about a hand going from Anon's shoulder to RD's ass? Or maybe holding her reins? (maybe both?) While RD's mane is perfectly recognizable... there's something wrong with that mouth.

I know all I do is complain and suggest changes, but I do love the image!

Also, the image looks damn good on a dark grey background.

>>27558342

>>27560717
http://imgur.com/arFHfOa

>>27561513
Perfect.

>TFW so much good art lately
>So little time to actually get down and produce green
>Don't know which piece to write a story for
Welp. Either way, green inside of 24 hours.

>>27562160
Are you me? I know I've been aiming to try to get SOMETHING out real soon, but I've had all of ten minutes to green recently.

>>27562160
>>27562748
Better than me, I finally get some time and after sitting down I stare at the keyboard all dumbfounded not knowing what to do.

Good night thread

>>27563953
Same

>>27562799
100% this.

If it helps, I've got a note on my phone that is for literally nothing but those green ideas that pop up in your head at random points throughout the day but you never remember when you sit down and actually write. It's got everything from plot points to just bits of dialogue that jump into my head and I don't want to forget.

Are there any stories of an anon becoming a slave pony?

>>27562799
maybe it'd help if you picked a theme? purposely limiting yourself to a specific subject, scenario or concept can sometimes help a lot.

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>>27567100
God dammit penis
Calm down!

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>you will never build her up
>you will never then slap her, crush her dreams of being pretty
>you will never facefuck her while her newly applied mascara runs down her cheeks and her lipstick stains your cock

>>27567499
Not sure if want?

>>27567499
why the hell are her eyes all rainbow colored in the final?

>>27568384
cause the artist didnt know when to stop?

>>27568384
>not telling your slave-fu that her eye color is disgusting
>not convincing her that she needs to wear contact lenses to look pretty
>not repeating it over and over again until she's afraid to look people in the eye
>not providing her with contact lenses only when she's being a good slave
Do you even abuse?

>>27568691
>actually providing contacts
>not leaving her with paints and a mirror
>not saying a word, except to berate her eye color
>not letting her solve the problem herself, just to please you
>not laughing as she attempts to apply the paints to her eyes
>not berating her again for her stupidity
Do you, good sir?

>>27568770
The problem with that, is you end up with a blind, useless slave. The only thing she'd be good for would be as a living sex doll and there are plenty of more fun ways to make her into one of those.

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This thread is so unwholesome at times..

>>27568691
http://pastebin.com/HXtRQpUs
You tell me. Or feel free to tell me I'm just an edge lord.

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>>27569119
>Shortstick's alive
>mfw.

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>>27570016
god damn

Archives: https://www.anonpone.com/punishment/
http://pastebin.com/uY83evb2

>You stare at Celestia's unmoving body, fighting your welling panic to keep calm.
>Tirek’s spell LOOKED like it was the same thing…
>And, hell, you KNOW the changelings are immortal, and they were born here!
>If they weren’t, there’d be no way Hope would still be alive…right?
>Maybe...maybe Celestia’s just faking it?
>She could have revived while you were getting Hope, and gone limp to lull you into a false sense of security.
>Or she’s ACTUALLY dead for real, and any chance of you escaping vanished with her life.
>...
>How the fuck are you going to tell Cadance?!
>”Did I do something wrong again, father? I didn’t break her, did I?” Hope asks, evidently sensing the panic you’re trying to suppress.
>You need to figure this out before you lose it.
>Either she’s dead, or she’s faking.
>If she’s dead, you’re screwed.
>If she’s pretending to be dead, she’ll want you to THINK you’re screwed.
>Or leave yourself open so she can finish you off….that’s what anyone in Tartarus would do.
>You just…
>Dammit, you need SOME way to figure this out without exposing yourself!
>”Father? I’m really sorry if I did…”
>...Wait a second.
>If Hope can sense emotions from you, she could sense emotions from Celestia.
>She could tell you if she’s faking.
>And if she is...you’re going to have to do something to keep her from starting round two the moment she knows you know.
“I wish. This time it was me.”
>Your eyes dart around the room looking for something-anything you could use to hold her down.
>They settle on a weak looking chunk of rock jutting out from the wall.
>Heh...Tirek wanted you to carve it into a chair for him.
>It was one of those things you always promised him you’d get around to, ‘when you had the time.’
>...
>Oh well.

>>27572242
>With a few kicks, you break it off from the wall and roll it until it’s resting on Celestia’s tail skirt.
>It’s a good thing your arm’s broken, or your foot would be killing you for doing that.
>Well...it’ll hold her for all of three minutes if she’s REALLY determined to get up, but it’s the best restraint you can come up with, without giving her any sort of opening.
>...Please be faking.
>Sitting on the boulder, you look at the changeling and take a deep breath.
“Time to find out if I did screw up. Hope, what emotions are you feeling right now?”
>She scrunches up her face, sticking out her tongue and tapping her chin with a hoof, “Umm...a fear that’s masking a panic...a little bit of overt hostility...oh, and a liitttle tiny bit of regret that could get really big really fast. That’s all I’m feeling coming from you, father!”
>You shoot her a look and point at Celestia.
>”Sorry, make that a lotta bit of overt hostility, father,” Hope squeaks out.
“What about Celestia? Are you feeling anything from her?”
>You fight to keep the ‘overt hostility’ out of your voice.
>Or...maybe it’s panic.
>”Um...just what I usually feel when someone gets hurt really bad and falls asleep for a while. But it also feels like she’s about to wake up!”
“Oh, thank fuck!”
>You almost slide off your boulder as a wave of relaxation washes over you.
>Good….
>The world still works the way you thought it did.
>You...you really wouldn’t have killed her if you thought she wouldn’t come back.
>The concept of death’s been little more than a very, very painful inconvenience for so long that you aalllmost forgot how deadly serious it used to be.
>...
>Heh.
>Discord would have loved that one.
>”I’m confused again…” Hope mumbles out.
“Good. I told you before to stay that wa-”
>Celestia gasps out, her limbs jerking aimlessly, signifying her long delayed return to life.

>>27572250
>She wheezes as she sucks down air, her eyes wide, unseeing.
>You can see her fight with her tongue as she tries to speak, her body is overriding her, forcing her to simply keep breathing.
>Cute.
“Well it’s about damn time!”
>You get off your rock and return to your previous position, towering over the pinned mare.
>Her wild eyes lock onto you.
>You don’t need Hope to tell you about the terror and confusion behind her traumatized gaze.
“Do you have any idea how worried I was? I thought you weren’t coming back!”
>”Wh-wh...wha…” is the best reply she can come up with.
>Reaching down, you grab her horn and use it to pull her head upright, holding her head still as the rest of her twitches, the closest thing to resistance she can offer.
“Now, Hope! Show me Twilight Sparkle!”
>The little bug nods and sits down in front of Celestia, her black nose almost close enough to boop the larger white one, as she...well, you’d guess she’s looking into Celestia’s eyes.
>It’s hard to tell without pupils.
>There’s no horn glow, no sign of super-natural abilities at all from Hope as, you assume, she gets to work.
>After how often Nymph hyped it up to you, you had kinda hoped it’d be a bit more dramatic than...well, nothing.
>Celestia’s squirming slowly comes to a halt as she regains control over her body, her sides heaving as she looks back at you, ignoring hHope as she gasps out her first coherent question, “Wh...where’s Cadance…?”
“...Seriously? Your first thought is about Cadance? You just died and resurrected, you idiot! How about you pay attention to the changeling that’s two inches in front of your face!”
>”Wait, that’s not how that dream goes…” Hope mumbles before chirping out, “Why does she keep calling Mother by the wrong name?”
>You squeeze Celestia’s horn and listen to her groan in pain.

>>27572264
“Focus you idiot! Twilight! Now!”
>”Right, sorry!” Hope re-scrunches her face in concentration, her tongue sticking out as she gets back to work.
>You don’t care how cute she’s looking right now, she’s on track for getting her wings abused again if she doesn’t do this right.
>”Human...wait...not Twilight…” Celestia struggles in an attempt to stand, her hooves slipping on the ground as she weakly pulls at your hand.
>You respond by giving her horn a sharp yank.
“Look, I’m going to find out one way or another. Now either YOU tell me, or the bug does.”
>She chooses to squeeze her eyes shut, rather than speak.
>”Father, I need-”
“On it.”
>You twist her head to the side and pin her horn with your foot, freeing up your only good hand.
>“Nnnh!” She grits her teeth but refuses to open her eyes.
>You could sink to her level and pry her eye open…or...
>Bending down, you instead wrap your fingers around her throat, just as you had earlier.
>Her eyes snap open.
>She looks back at you, the fire threatening to return in them as her mouth hangs open.
>But she doesn’t make a move to attack.
>Hope twists her head until it matches Celestia's and resumes pouring into her hate-filled gaze.
“Thaaat’s right. Keep them open and I won't squeeze.”
>She grits her teeth but stays silent, her eyes beginning to water as tears threaten to run down her cheeks.
>It doesn't take long before Hope cries out, “Got it! I know where she is!”
“Yes!”
>With a cheer and a great sigh of relief, you let Celestia go.
>The instant your hand leaves her, she screws her eyes shut yet again, her face scrunching up.
>You’ve done it!
>Now you can actually enjoy yourself until Tirek and Discord show up again.
“Good jooob Hope, good job! Where is she?”
>Smiling from ear to pointy ear, she puffs her chest out and takes a deep breath.

>>27572278
>”It’s really weird! The ground’s all black and grey like carved rocks, and there are these REALLY tall things! They’re like a rock forest, but really shiny and sometimes you can see things in them…”
>Your stomach sinks as Hope goes on.
>She has no idea what she’s describing, does she?
>”Only some of them were made out of smaller rocks, and you could only see inside parts of those. Also there were lots of ponies only some of them didn’t have horns and some didn’t have wings and some didn’t have either!”
>You rub your forehead.
>...Ok, you can salvage this.
>Looking down, you see Hope looking up at you eagerly, apparently not reading YOUR emotions.
>”Did I do good, father?”
>Out of the corner of your eye, you can see Celestia lift her head, a smile resting on her snout.
“That depends. Did you get a NAME, Hope? I need to know what the place is called.”
>”Oh, umm…” Her ears sink down.
>You don’t need to be a changeling to know what she’s feeling.
>”Mother never taught us how to hear things when doing this…”
>Shit.
>It’s been decades and Nymph is STILL able to screw with you.
>Your mind races, once more trying to find some way to salvage this.
“What about written down, did you see a sign or something?! Big flat thing? Lots of writing?”
>Hope starts scooting backwards while trying to make herself as small as possible, “I…I dunno what writing is… I saw the flat things with lotsa symbols…I just...I’m sorry father, I just don’t know what those symbols meeeaaan!”
>...She can’t read…
>Your trump card is useless.
>Below you, Celestia begins to laugh, mocking you, quickly bringing your blood to a boil.
>Fighting to keep a snarl from your face, you meet her laughter with a death glare.
>It only causes her sing-song giggling to get worse.
>You could fix that.

>>27572290
>Choke her again until she stops laughing, take away her oxygen privileges until she tells you where Twilight is...and if she doesn’t, just keep killing her over and over again.
>You have two days, you can fit a LOT in that time.
>After all, you need to pay her back for every time you died because she sent you here!
> As you lunge to grab her neck again, your arm moves juuuust the wrong way to bang against your side once again.
>It takes everything you have to keep from crying out in pain, as you tense up, your legs threatening to give out again.
>...Your revenge is going to have to wait until after you’ve taken care of your arm.
>Otherwise you’re just going to hurt yourself as much as you hurt her.
“Hope? Bite her.”
>Celestia only laughs harder.
>”Whaa? Father?”
>Hope freezes up, staring at you with her mouth agape.
“Inject her with your venom-every last drop.”
>”How’s your master plan coming along human?” Celestia gasps out between bouts of laughter, “You can never win like this, violence will only cont-gaaah!”
>Hope sinks her fangs into Celestia’s flank, finally shutting her up.
“That’s not my name, Celestia. You know what it is, Cadance said it earlier, Luna said it earlier, and when I come back...”
>A sick grin grows on your face
“You’ll say it too.”
>”Noh,” Celestia slurs, the venom already taking effect, “You’ll lonly mag yourshelfff...”
>...
>She talks brave, but the look frozen on her eyes as she’s paralyzed betrays her.
>She’s scared.
>Hope sits up, a bit of green fluid dripping from one of her fangs, “I did good, right father? Now what?”
“Now? Now you’re going to sit here and watch her. I’m going to be right back. If uuh...your venom wears off sooner, you need to keep her from leaving this room.”
>She tilts her head as you move to leave, “But where are you going?”

>>27572301
>You pause at the ‘door’ to the main hall.
>...Right now, for all Celestia knows, you’re going to pay one of her family members a visit.
>No need to ruin that.
“Do you remember what I told you about staying confused?”
>”I...but...uh-okay Father…”
>You can’t stop from grinning again.
>There are SO many ways you could abuse that…
>Later, of course.
“Good girl.”
>With that, you leave the room, heading down to your supply tunnel.
>First thing’s first, you need to put a damn splint on your arm.
>Then...you’ll take care of things so you won’t have to wait six weeks for it to heal.
>During which, you’ll have plenty of time to figure out what you’re going to do to Celestia.
>You’ve promised her so many things…
>A decent whipping, scarred tally marks for Luna, that she’ll join her family in calling you master, destruction of her entire philosophy regarding Tartarus...and so much more.
>It’s hard to figure out where to begin.

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>mfw live or die was a perfect 50/50 split.
Well, I just hope I don't catch too much flack for this. I'm really sorry for the massive delay you guys, this was...prooobably the most difficult update for me to write. And some asshole got me hooked on Stellaris
Soo...how do you wish to break your Celestia?

>>27572363
I enjoyed it, but then I was in the keep her alive camp.

I do feel like Anon suddenly got more overly evil. I mean we already knew he was (cause the whole keeping Nymph as a pet thing and all), but just feels like he suddenly went right over the deep end in this one. Not necessarily a bad thing, the whole tiptoing around Cadence probably would have gotten dull, just an observation.

>>27572290
>...She can’t read…

Time to start teaching, or atleast have scrawl out the letters so you can read it.

>>27572363
I think it was the right choice for now, but like the above post I was in the 'alive' camp from the start.

If you chose to give us the option to kill her now that we were aware it was a risk, I'd be much less upset. It was mostly the abruptness of it and lack of warning.

Now, each of these three ponies has a weakness. Luna's is her trauma, and Cadance's is her innocence. Celestia's, I continue to think, is her family.
- She isn't aware of what we've done to Luna yet, is she? Maybe it's time to make her aware. It's not like we're going to get her to hate us less somehow, but I wonder if we could get her to humiliate herself if we end Luna's torment...
- Alternately, Cadance did betray us. Putting Cadance under threat of punishment - not real, though we'd have to avoid being put into a position where Celestia could call our bluff.
- Maybe just highlight that we have genuinely kept Cadance out of harm's way so far, even to our own detriment. Point out that we can remove that if Celestia is going to keep pushing her into being uncooperative.

Play up the fear bit for a moment: Let her imagine herself, utterly paralyzed and unable to even make a peep to aid, as we inflict something awful on Cadance in front of her. Or tell her to just think about how terrible and helpless it feels to be paralyzed now, and then have her imagine what Luna is going through.

Of course, if she completely refuses to respond to any kind of reasoning we could just go to a good old-fashioned horsewhipping, even if just to let our anger out a bit.

Bump before bed.

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>>27572363
Nobody will agree, and it would be difficult to pull off believably anyway, but if I were the one in charge of this story, I'd have Anon convincingly undergo a false change of heart with a great deal of scripted events and subtlety and, just as it's all about to come to fruition... genuinely have a change of heart and go hero-with-cruelty.

I'm having fun with this either way. Don't beat yourself up over the delays; This has been fantastic.

>>27569119

We're all edgelords. It is what it is.

Someday you can join the rest of us in peaceful death.

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>>27572363
As the alive camp member, I'm satisfied. Dead pones are no fun. And this time I actually liked her character, Trollestia is best Celestia.

>Out of the corner of your eye, you can see Celestia lift her head, a smile resting on her snout.
pic related

>“You can never win like this, violence will only cont-gaaah!”
>...Right now, for all Celestia knows, you’re going to pay one of her family members a visit.
>No need to ruin that.
Okay, let's play her game. We offer her a non violent solution. Either she tells us where Twilight is, or we'll go and see if Luna also thinks that violence never solves anything. She was very receptive to that method of persuasion the last time we tried it.

>You don’t care how cute she’s looking right now, she’s on track for getting her wings abused again if she doesn’t do this right.
She was mostly useless as always but... ehhhh... she's /trying/. Let's not hurt her this time.

>>27573361
>She isn't aware of what we've done to Luna yet, is she?
I'm pretty sure she is. Luna wasn't exactly quiet while we were raping her. And considering that the cave is otherwise completely quiet and pone ears are more sensitive than human ears, Celestia definitely heard everything.

>>27572504
>Time to start teaching
This would be a nice way to do some family bonding, but I really don't think it would actually help. How often is the name of the city actually written somewhere in it? If we're lucky she saw a roadsing and we get a name of a street that could be anywhere in Equestria. If we're not lucky, we'll get name of some pub or "Clearance SALE! All items 60% off!".

We should ask hope if she saw some landmarks, Statues, bridges, castles... etc. Even if we don't get a name, Tirek would have something to go on, and could ask a random pony what city "that big green statue with a torch in a hoof" is.

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>>27576079
>>27572504
Seconding everything here.
>>27576192
If we must break her, this Anon has some good substance.

I'd like an alternative, though.

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>>27576235
>If we must break her
The prompts tend to be closer to friendly suggestions than they are the only possible choices. I know we've thrown Olibird for a loop before.

>>27576665
>If we must break her
We can't kill her, and putting her back in the cage would only make her as boring as she was before.

So here's the deal: A segment of Bluebird is prepped and ready to go, but this morning my laptop decided not to boot whatsoever. No BIOS, no power light, nothing - I think it might be a power supply issue.

Not only does this mean I have no computer, right now I can't even get the hard drive to be recognized on a friend's machine, so getting the file off may be a bit tricky.

Will advise on if/when I can have a functioning machine again.

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>>27577332
filename not related

>>27577332
>not running frequent backups/writing on a cloud service

>>27577404
I use two thumb drives myself.

>>27577332
This seems to happen a lot to our writefags... just saying.

now that I finally have time, its time to catch up on the greens

>>27577332
Would advise on how to properly recover files, but its a damn laptop making it 100x more difficult....

Wish you all the luck though.

>>27578762
This guy gets it. Laptops are the greedy, douchebag middlemen of the IT hardware world.

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>>27579180
Tell me about it. Good news is, I was able to remove the hard drive and plug it into an external SATA controller I had around to pull files. So we're back in business.

Picking up from pastebin: http://pastebin.com/mvMGYavr

"I don't think you understand, Your Highness. I don't want to just find her, I want to tear her apart for screwing with my head."
> Your voice is as cold as the icy wastes that surround the Crystal Empire, and Cadance flinches at the violence promised by those words.
> Celestia, seated behind her, gives no hint as to her thoughts on the matter.
> The solar princess' eyes remain closed and face neutral, unwilling to let you see her thoughts.
> Her presence alone at this conversation along with the Crystal Empire's rulers, though, spoke to their uncertainty of how truthful you were.
"You can try to enforce your laws on your domain - I am not trying to overthrow you. But this - /insect/ come in my house and messed with my mind. I am not going to let this go."
> "...we understand, Anonymous. But to have you chasing anypony down - even a changeling - to exact vendettas in Equestria-"
> "-it is simply not something we can accept so easily."
> Celestia finally interjects, opening her eyes to levelly meet yours.
"Then you find her, and hand her over to me."
> Leaning into the screen, you make a fist so tight you're almost afraid skin will break.
"I want that fucking bug to be made an example - to make sure that everyone knows the cost of messing with my head."
> "Anonymous, please..."
> Cadance holds up a hoof as she speaks up.
> "We understand, Shining and I perhaps more than anypony else, how it feels to have your home and mind invaded by a changeling. But if this is true-"
"You damn know well it's true. I showed you the security footage. You KNOW she was wandering around in here without my consent!"
> For once you were glad Chissik had chosen to slip her chains on the first night she'd been with you.

>>27580201

> The video of the changeling wandering about - obviously exploring, obviously unfamiliar - had been prime 'evidence' when spliced in before your earlier confrontation with her.
> That she had remained after that first, obviously hostile confrontation was only further 'evidence' of her manipulation.
> "Even if it is true, we cannot simply allow her to be..."
> Cadance searches for a word that doesn't have too many unfortunate implications.
> Celestia, once more, steps in for her.
> "We cannot allow Chissik out of our sight while her plans are still unclear. For that matter, Chyrsalis is demanding Chissik be given over to her as well."
"That roach can rot. If she didn't want me taking the lead on this, she shouldn't have held back on warning me that something was wrong for so long."
> "Unfortunately, that is not something we can so easily say to her. If peace is to be maintained-"
"Peace?! Peace - why are you being so soft on her, Celestia? She was the one who invaded Canterlot and put you in a cocoon, or so I've heard."
> There's the barest twitch of Celestia's ear, but she takes a deep breath and gathers herself again.
> "...be that as it may, I will suffer the indignity of dealing with her for the sake of my little ponies."
> Good old Celestia - always could be relied on to act in the best interest of 'her ponies'.
> You make a great show of struggling with your own emotions before huffing and slump back in your seat.
"Fine. You go after her. I'll be keeping my eyes on your little student-turned-astronomer anyhow. But I'll be talking to Chrysalis seperately too. One way or another, I'm going to get my hands on that bug - since it seems the first demonstration of what happens when I'm crossed wasn't enough."
> Again Celestia refuses to rise to your baited implications of the suffering awaiting Chissik if she is turned over to you.

>>27580246

> But Cadance darkens, however, while Shining Armor (to your surprise) actually looks conflicted at the thought of a Changeling suffering its just deserts.
> Celestia, unfortunately, is the one to take control of the conversation again.
> "And if I may ask, Anonymous, where is Rainbow Dash?"
> "Um - I'm here, princess."
> Leaning down, you scoot your chair back to allow Dash up into your lap.
> She leaps aboard, settling on her haunches and waving with one wing - nervous, but not terrified.
> An accurate, and fortunately fitting, reflection of her actual emotions.
> All three royals look relieved that she had not suffered any for her 'secret' revealing of your situation - thank God you'd kept a level head and not put her in the cage.
> Soon the conversation is flowing easily and smoothly between them.
> Even you allow yourself to allow a few comments in from time to time, allowing the illusion of being 'more comfortable' with the princesses and prince.
> That was the cost of this plan, ultimately.
> With Chissik taking the blame for your more recent 'disagreements', you had to play nice now.
> To pretend you didn't find the princess' attempts seize control of your life as revolting as ever.
> "...and we might possibly arrange for another chance for the elements to rejoin each other."
"Possibly, yes."
> Regarding her with hooded eyes, you lean back in your seat.
"I am assuming that all the elements will be there?"
> Including, of course, the absent Twilight.
> "Perhaps. It will have to be seen, depending on how these matters play out."
> So, Celestia was willing to negotiate on Twilight being pulled back from her little project?
> Interesting - had she merely meant it to put pressure on you?
> Or was this just a delaying tactic of her own?
"I'll look forward to seeing all of them -"
> Again, the emphasis on the all.
"-in that case. And to hearing an update on this situation."
> The screen goes black, cut off before a response can come.

>>27580257

> That had gone... about as good as could be expected.
> They weren't ready to believe you quite yet, but that would come in time.
> You'd have to arrange another chance for Dash to 'sneak' in and call them to confirm your allegations.
> Even then, you weren't sure it would hold up foerever.
> But it didn't need to.
> Switching to feed from one of your perimeter drones, you see that the party you'd been expecting were nearly at the end of their journey.
> Forty-eight stallions, all of them young and strong, hitched to half as many carts practically overflowing with ore.
> Even working in pairs and leveraging the frankly abnormal strength of earth ponies, they were struggling to bring their heavily-loaded charges up the hill.
> At least they would have the benefit of not have to bring them back down again - only a little more, and they'd hit a flatter patch on the trail where the carts could be safely left for your drones to retrieve.
> "That's who you've been waiting for, master?"
"Mmm-hmm. The first lot."
> Between her silence and your intense focus, you'd almost forgotten Dash's presence in your lap.
"It'll be a slow start - I'll not get more than a few hundred ounces of good material out of all those tons they're bringing up. But I can work with that - cannibalize a little more from the sections of the 'Obstinance' that I can afford to, and begin to replace what I can't."
> Now reminded, you reach down to stroke her cheek fondly.
"But it will be a start. And not too much later..."
> "And then - then you can stop fighting with the princesses all the time?"
> No.
> Repairs, no matter how complete, would not make you and Celestia friends, nor sooth the tempers and wounded prides of her sister and protege.
> At best, you would no longer be on such a stark time limit.
> At worst...
"Yes, Dash."
> Leaning over, you plant your chin on top of her mane - silk-coated ears tickling either side of your chin as they twitched at the sensation.

>>27580270

> Who knew; maybe there'd be a way you could turn that inevitable failure of negotiations to bind Dash even more tightly to your side.
"Then we can see about putting all of this behind us."
> It did occur to you that it might be wise to at least begin to break it to Dash that a resolution might not be so easily coming.
> But there was only so much you could deal with at one time, and managing another crisis of conscience from the deluded pegasus was not something that could be taken up now.
"Come on, Dash. We've got a little free time - Chrysalis won't be trying to reach out to me until the Princesses bother her, and the drones can handle the ore carts."
> She follows close at your heels, looking up expectantly.
> "Where are we going, master?"
"Up to my room."
> "I thought..."
> She hesitates, unwilling to contradict you.
"Go on?"
> "I thought you weren't allowing me to... get that close until this was all over."
> That is a point - a very good point.
> But...
"I just want to talk while I'm relaxing a bit, Dash. Nothing about going to my room says anything about that."
> To your room a little beyond, as you open the floor to ceiling window and seat yourself on the balcony extending into the open air.
> You'd used to lock Dash out here - alone, and chained to a ring buried in the concrete that she still gives a wide birth while joining you.
> Kicking your dangling legs out over the edge and reclining, you sigh softly and lean back on your elbows.
> Dash drops to rest on her belly, pointedly on the opposite side of you from the ring she'd once been secured to.
> Her wings twitch and shuffle, as if considering leaping from the open platform.
> Certainly she could - with only a small fragment of cut feathers remaining, gliding would undoubtedly be within her ability.
> Maybe even true flight now, you aren't sure.
> But other things hold her back than that, and she remains sprawled at your side.

>>27580286

> Half-closing your eyes and allowing the stress to drain out is a relief, an unimaginable weight lifted from you.
> If only it could last forever.
"You know, Dash, in some ways I'm glad it was you."
> "Huh?"
"I'm glad it was you who came after me first. Not one of the other elements."
> "Why?"
> The touch of nervousness in her voice can't be missed, but there's real curiosity there too.
"Because, I think that in the end you're capable of understanding me. You get that feeling - that need to be free. Why I couldn't... just let this go. I don't know if any of your other friends could have gotten that."
> "I..."
> She scuffs at the concrete nervously with one hoof.
"I'm serious, Dash. of all of them who could've come after me... well, I'll admit I don't know them the best, but I don't think any of them would have comprehended the same kind of need to be free in the same way you do."
> Arms folding behind your head to support it, you let your eyes fall the rest of the way shut.
"Honestly, I think one of the reasons we've managed to come so far is that you can."
> "Could."
"Hmm?"
> "I could."
> Rolling your head to one side, you crack open an eye again.
> Dash notices your renewed attention and shifts uncomfortably.
"Don't leave me hanging after dropping something like that, Dash."
> "I..."
> She rolls over to face away from you, but answers before you can scold her for it:
> "I felt like that, once. Before..."
> Before you'd punished that instinct out of her.
"Nonsense, Dash. I never intended to make you not... you. Just make sure you understood what your role had to be in this situation."
> Now she stands up, turning to face you again.
> Getting a good look at her face shows you what you'd missed earlier:
> It isn't anger or objection she is feeling, but confusion.
> "I don't get it! If I still felt like that, I wouldn't ever be able to go of it. Every second I'd be trying to keep myself safe and free and-"

>>27580313

> Shaking, she cuts off and tries to force her breathing to steady.
> "You're - you're just laying around. You know what's happening, but as far as you're concerned it might as well be a vacation! How can you-"
> A simple raised hand is all it takes to bring Dash's tirade to a screeching halt.
> Folding it back beneath your head and laying down, you return your gaze to the sky above.
> Now you understand Dash's questioning your asking her to join you earlier.
"When I was flying cargo runs, there was a lot of time when I wasn't doing anything. Just... waiting. Waiting to get moving, to get somewhere, to get your reward..."
> Shrugging lightly (or something like it, in your laid-back position).
"You had to learn how to put everything aside and accept that things were in motion, and as long as something was happening, not to let yourself burn up over it."
> "But nothing is happening! You're just laying there, and-"
> Rolling her eyes and huffing exasperatedly, Dash spins on her hooves and marches back into your room.
> For a moment you think about calling after her, but in the end decide not to.
> It wasn't surprising Dash couldn't put aside her emotions so easily; she'd never been forced to sit still the way you had.
> And in the end, yous supected she was only worried about you - which was reassuring in a way.
> Eyes slide back shut again and you return to your light napping...
> ...only to find that Dash's own jumpiness had apparently infected you, as suddenly the day's concerns are far more tenaciously clinging to your mind.
> Growling softly, you get up and wander back inside.
> No chance of getting that moment free of worry now.
> Well, it was a few hours early, but you supposed you could go pester Chrysalis now.

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> "You've been busy, I see."
"And you haven't? I'd be rather concerned if you weren't approaching an incident of this degree with all of your resources."

>>27580321

> Snarling, the Changeling queen leaps from her lounging spot and stalks towards the camera, jagged horn aglow.
> "Do not ever imply that I take the lives of my children less than perfectly seriously!"
> Your hands rise defensively.
"I implied nothing of the sort. I know you wouldn't skimp on handling an incident of this caliber, but it does reinforce the need to get to Chissik first, before she can leak the nature of our plan."
> "Yessss..."
> Her reply still sounds somehow annoyed, as if the subject itself annoyed Chrysalis somehow.
"I hope you understand, if it comes between Chissik's life and mine, I will kill her before I allow the princesses to question her. I don't want that anymore than you, though, so cooperation really is your best bet here."
> "What makes you think that I do not want Chissik's head to rest on a spike?"
> Leaning back in your seat, you snort and fold your arms.
"Because honestly, I don't see you as someone to let a traitor go that quickly. Especially not her - not after she humiliated you in front of the princesses."
> Chrysalis' ear twitches, and you know you've hit on something.
"You don't need to see her die with your own eyes. But you want to, and I'm willing to give you that if you work with me."
> "...fine."
> Straightening up, the changeling monarch returns to her original lounge and seats herself facing the camera.
> "But understand this, Anonymous. I work with you; I do not work for you. I will grant you assistance in playing your charade with the princesses, but do not ever think to try and control me."
"...I wouldn't think of it."
> "Yes, you would."
> Smirking with a look that manages to send a shiver down your spine even through the screen.
> "Do not think I'm not so foolish as to understand what you do, Anonymous. We changelings have survived on subterfuge and manipulation. You should not lie to me."
> Not it is your turn to laugh.

>>27580331

"Fair enough, I suppose. But there is truth in this: I've no interest in trying to rule you. My goals are much less grand - much shorter term. You don't have to worry about any attempts to conquer you."
> "That may be, but you have already taken Chissik from me."
"I have? I returned her to you."
> "And who do you think is responsible for her sudden decision to turn her back on her monarch?"
"Please - she spoke of nothing but her loyalty to you for the entire time she was here."
> That, of course, is not entirely true.
> There had been that reference to wanting to get out and see more of the world...
> How much of that might be driving her current actions?
> "And you expect me to believe this is the truth, Anonymous?
> Chrysalis' eyes narrow to iridescent slits, her fangs on full display.
> "Whatever she may have said to you, the fact is that Chissik has turned her back on me - her queen, her monarch!"
"Then give me the chance to make it up by helping you find her."
> "Chance? No - I expect you will put your full effort into this."
> Your eyebrows rise; a few moments earlier, it seemed like she'd barely wanted you to be mixed up in this.
> Why the change...?
"And if I do get my hands on her?"
> "You will give her to me."
> It's not a question, or even an order - it's a statement of fact.
"I'll have to keep acting upset, to keep up the appearance that I want Chissik's head as well."
> "Fine. Why should I care?"
"Just letting you know so it isn't a surprise. I'd hate for another... misunderstanding to come between us."
> Letting out a most un-royal-like snort, Chrysalis nods.
> "Whatever the reason."
"Then I'll reach out to you again when I have another step ready."
> With the queen dealt with, you shift to other matters.
> The first batches of the refined materials were already underway.
> It'd be just barely enough to start paying off your business partners, but after that first delivery...

>>27580352

> For the first time in a long time you allow yourself the thought of having a fully-functioning, fully-repaired vessel to work with.
> A luxury you had not allowed yourself in far, far too long for fear of allowing the logical thought that it could never happen to crush you.
> But now...
> Hell, if you were lucky maybe you could even keep all of what you'd built down here.
> Maybe...
> Maybe you didn't have to leave.
> Maybe you could come back.
> That was an interesting thought - come back with a stronger position, a better place to negotiate from.
> Set up your own little trading monopoly on this world.
> Certainly a few of their 'magic' trinkets could be sold for fortunes back home, if you could get them there safely.
> The princesses would try to stop you, of course, but you'd already stalled them with little chance of success.
> And-
> "Master?"
> Dash's voice snaps you out of the drift, and immediately you realize the huge - gaping, even - hole in your logic.
> What would Dash do?
> As long as that the question of going home had been out of mind, the question of what would become of her had also been a non-issue.
> And as much as her current state was her fault, a flicker of concern also ran through your mind.
> If you departed permanently...
> ...you couldn't see Dash ever faring well.
> The glimpse you'd seen was enough of a hint to suggest what she'd be like if you vanished entirely.
> If she could not keep herself sane by stalking just out of your sight and planning ways to win your attention back.
> "Err, master?"
> Glancing back, you spot the pegasus standing in the doorway.
> Her expression, however, is far stronger than you'd expected it to be.
> Worry had creased deep lines into her muzzle that are only beginning to fade as you respond.
"Just lost in thought, Dash. Didn't mean to ignore you."
> Reassurance provided by your words speeds away the fear.
> "O-Oh. I was just coming in, since it sounded like you were done..."
"I am."