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>it's a 4chan anon episode

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>it's a 4chan anon episode
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whoops, forgot link, this is real

http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-flutter-brutter/EP013304160139?aid=zap2it
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>>27195387
No. No. Oh please god no!
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>>27195387
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>>27195387
This is just like that Breezie episode.
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>>27195397
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>>27195387
>>27195397
This hits way too close to home
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>>27195407
Repeating plotlines is a sign of a dead show
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>>27195407
It kinda is. Fuck!
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>>27195416
This is going to be worse, flutters brother is going to be a gigantic faggot
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>>27195430
Are you afraid that you will look at Flutterbro and see yourself, fear of failure included?

I kind of am.
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Isn't this the same lesson as the Breezie episode?
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>>27195387
I live alone.
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>>27195439
I don't have a fear of failure, won't stop this from being a cringey episode.
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>>27195387
>>27195397
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>>27195454
But you just made me cringe, anon!
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>>27195407
>>27195445
It aint easy being Fluttershy's brother
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Will her brother just be a male Treehugger?
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>>27195461
I realize that they probably won't make this fun.

I mean I actually would like an episode where it is all wacky cartoon antics to try to get her brother out of the house. Like, maybe stupid disguises and elaborate plans with complex machines designed to drag him out.
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>NEETs: The episode
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So, we are getting incest episode.
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I Found a picture of him!

......don't judge me, this is the best I could do in 5 minutes with Paint
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>>27195387
It's a "Fuck the young poor people who aren't able to live on their own because they're at the barrel end of capitalism's rifle" episode
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>>27195478
It's going to end with /r9k/ raging hard
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>>27195491
It said he was afraid of failure. Living with his parents is a symptom of a greater problem for him.
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I'm predicting there to be major feels in the episode
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>>27195490
oh, also I'd dub him 4Chandler
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The writers know less of what to do with Fluttershy than Spike or AJ.
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>>27195387

How many NEETs and /rk9/ gonna to get triggered by this episode?
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>>27195491
/leftypol/ please. It's been proven time and time again communism doesn't work
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>>27195387
>he isn't the douchebag jock that makes Flutter be uncomfortable around him
>he's a massive faggot instead

J U S T
U
S
T
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>>27195498
>afraid of failure
it doesn't count if you don't even try
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>>27195498
>freeloader
>fear of failure
So he's autistic too, great.

>>27195505
I'm already freaking out.

>>27195507
>/leftypol/
Actually fuck off.
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> 6 season
> brother
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>>27195516
>shining armor
>princess cadance
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>the whole fluttershy family

Fucking nice, this episode will generate a lot of incest fanart.
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>>27195516
GEE, HOW ORIGINAL

I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THIS SHOW

GOD DAMN
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>>27195516
we haven't seen him because he's a NEET, makes sense
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This episode sounds less like MLP than an episode involving Sunset or aliens.
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>>27195519
> 2nd season
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>>27195530
this
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How many whiny bullshit excuses is this faggot going to make up?
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>>27195387
Updated. This will either be the best thing ever, or it'll be cringy as fuck.
I do hope we get a glimpse of their parents, would be another bingo.

S06E06 - No Second Prances
When Starlight Glimmer starts becoming friends with a fellow formerly-bad pony, Twilight tries to stop her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw_OtvTZSUc

S06E07 - Newbie Dash
After Rainbow Dash achieves her dream of becoming a Wonderbolt, she makes a disastrous first impression and gets saddled with a mortifying nickname.
S06E08 - A Hearth's Warming Tail
Starlight Glimmer has a case of the holiday blues, so Twilight tries to help cure her by reading one of her favorite Hearth Warming's Eve stories, A Hearth's Warming Tale.
S06E09 - Saddle Row & Rec
When Rarity opens her flagship store in Manehattan, a tell-all article threatens to expose how badly her friends almost ruined the Grand Opening.
S06E10 - Applejack's Day Off
Rarity struggles to get Applejack to relax at the spa; when Twilight and Spike attempt to take over Applejack's simple farm chores, it turns out to be a more difficult job than they thought.
S06E11 - Flutter Brutter
When Fluttershy tries to convince her freeloading brother to move out of their parents' house, he moves in with her instead, forcing Fluttershy to stand up to him and help him get over his fear of failure.
-2 Discord episodes (possibly twoparter)
-2 more Spike episodes
-Gabby the Griffon (can griffons have cutie marks?) episode
-Babs Seed return
-Daring Do returns
-Dragons, including a girl dragon. Appear in Hearthswarming Eve episode, and visit to their homeland.
-New character: Cotton Candy Face
-Possibly Felicia Day and William Shatner guest-starring
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>>27195509
He's too afraid to even do that I guess.
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>>27195387
So does this mean we're gonna see Fluttershy's parents?
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>>27195507
Yes it is, Anon.
Socialism is shit too.
Capitalism is also shit.
No system works when the people autisticly stick to it when it doesn't work and refuses to change anything to fix it.
Basically all economic systems are doomed to failure.
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>>27195540
>but ponies make fun of me
>i never had a job
>i'm scared alone

>>27195532
it still counts
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Post YFW you realize that Fluttershy's NEET brother is the reason she drew those anime cutouts in last season's Nightmare Night episode
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>>27195546
i would like a new milf
but i don't know if i like to see FS dad after all the rapefics i read about him
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>>27195516
We havent seen any of her family yet

Would you be shocked to find out she has any relatives? Or do brothers just trigger you?

I swear this is one of the most autistic of all complaints about the show

HURRRR TWILIGHT NEVER MENTIONED A BROTHER BEFORE

She also never mentioned ANY family before, seeing ponies have small talk about how many relatives they have does not make for a good choice of dialogue in a 22 minute show....will you be shocked to discover maybe ponies have....gasp....COUSINS??
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>>27195387
So much for Fluttershy's brother being a badass.

So was that leak of the upcoming episode titles real?
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>>27195387

>not timid shota colt brother

Welp, look like we don't gonna to get /ss/ incest with the mane6. Only rainbow dash left but she is a fucking cunt and don't have a little brother
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>>27195558
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>>27195558
What anime girl do you think is fluttershys bothers waifu?
He's probably a reifag
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>this thread reeking of neet episode
i can see even the most generic porn.
oh god, something tells me i'm going to hate this
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>>27195563
>>27195546
Dad is going to be a timid pencil pusher, mom is going to be in the Cloudsdale military. Fluttershy inherited the Stare from her.
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>>27195387
Well this episode is going to be shit.
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>>27195387
This...I was not expecting this show take a direction like this.

Oh boy I can't wait for it to be both good and bad at the same time
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>>27195387

>it's real
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>>27195568
No. We knew about Flutter Brutter episode title from conventions before those fake titles.
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>>27195568
how i wish now they decided to go with the "generic alpha/beta anime guy" to "full neet faggot"
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>>27195578
And fluttershy inherited being a weak pushover from her father.
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> brother
I think, next time we'll meet RD's daughter and husband.
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>>27195540
If he doesn't start quoting Capital I'm going to be pissed off.

>>27195548
>defaulting to special snowflake nonsense because you can't be bothered to even read a few wikipedia articles
Stop being a whiny moron and pick up a book. Unless you can't read or are underage you have zero reasons to be this ignorant about the world you live in.
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>It's a 'fuck lazy welfare babies' episode

The redpill is great aint it? And here I am thinking Jim was a brainwashed loon.
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inb4 we'll have an entire general devoted to Fluttershy's NEET brother conquering the Mane 6 and beyond like a harem eroge.
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>hope for Sakamoto-tier Flutterbrother
>get a hikimori instead
>mfw
Whatever, just gotta make it a couple days more.
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>>27195598
I hope FB swallows the redpill and swallows it hard.
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>>27195598
>unironically using the term redpill
>thinking over people are brainwashed
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>>27195558

nah, the flutterbutter will be a beta comicfag, probably a beta SJW
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>>27195606
Dude, this Saturday is the Trixie episode
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>>27195407
Breezies episode is about letting go, this is about dealing with a non leaving partner, why is everybody on this board a retarded faggot
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>>27195617
But Sakamoto's on Friday, and it's going to be fucking golden.
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There any incest douijin with the NEET brother that leave his neet life because her sister allow to fuck her if he get a job?
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>>27195617
at least i have something to look forward
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>>27195387

It will be kind of interesting to see how they characterize him, since Equestria has no internet to speak of...
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>>27195624
Why the fuck do people still argue about this shit like it matters? The show hasn't mattered since season 2.
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>>27195629

Sakamoto's is the name of the anime?

I need to spend time with something right now.

Comedy SoL or just a shitty shonen?
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>character has a brother that she never bothered mentioning before

Man this show has really gone to shit.
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>>27195644

Why she need to mention her brother to her friends?

Specially when your best friend is a fucking cunt and your brother is a NEET?

I have a sister and i never mention her existence to my friends
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>>27195632
only if it's shota
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>>27195614
I'll be mad if they make him a vidya gaymer
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>>27195644
>what is the last 2 episodes of S2
c'mon man, we already past this
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>>27195644
Everyone came to love and accept Shining Armor, this will be no different.
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>>27195654
I think what anon is saying is that you shouldn't save family as a plot point for a future episode.
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>>27195644
I have a lot of mates of whom I have absolutely no knowledge of their siblings or parents. Don't ask, don't tell if you don't want to.
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>>27195661
>they jump the shark on technology even more just to have a believable NEET
JUST
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>>27195644

Yeah. I agree. Lets stop watching it.
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>>27195670

We love SA because he is cute and hot. /mlp/ will hate Flutter Butter, cap this shit
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>>27195641
Sakamoto Desu Ka?

Comedy SoL, a story involving one of the Garyest high school students to ever Stu. But the show is less "Sakamoto succeeds at everything" and more "Wily Coyote failed to catch the Road Runner again".
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>>27195687
but what if he's really cute and hot too? both of the previously introduced NEETs in the show have been cute and hot
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>literally me: the episode
fuck
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>>27195677
>they jump the shark
I don't think you know what that phrase means.
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>>27195387
It's not the first time a kids show comes up with the freeloader thing, I remember Hey Arnold and Spongebob doing it.
Who knows? Maybe the filthy neets that lurk this place learn something from it. Yea right.
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>>27195548

ANARCHY NOW! TEAR THE SYSTEM DOWN!

Your sand nigger is showing, faggot.
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>>27195597
One look around shows anyone not autisticly attached to capitalism that it isn't working anymore. Corporations with free reign have far too much power and it is practically impossible to get a job even with mountains of work experience. A gay friend of the family has been working in IT for well over 20 years or so and after he got laid off the only job he can get is a cashier at Walmart. Someone who went to college and has experience can't get a fucking job, what does that say about the job market for a newly graduated college student with absolutely no experience?
And one look at the crash of 29 will show anyone not autisticly obsessed with capitalism that having even less regulations is even fucking worse.
And a single glance through history will show that communism is an inherent failure that at best breeds oppressive regimes.
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>>27195719
You're not much better if you don't know what anarchism is.
You also need to read wikipedia.
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>>27195700

Heh, be realistic. There is far too much comedy to be mined from making him a fat, lazy, Cheeto-munching, vidya-playing, fedora-wearing, neck-bearded, lazy nerd.

I bet he'll even be green.
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I hope it's good. I still live at home (living alone has become unaffordable in my country), but I'm no longer NEET and got a job now.
I hope it's not compeltely treated as a joke and they go a little deeper into it.
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The wagies won't know what hit them.
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>>27195715
there's a difference between an asshole who it's taking advantage of you being nice, and an asshole who doesn't even try to do something with his life
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>>27195687
>/mlp/ will hate
It only takes a couple of greentexts to change that opinion.
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>>27195719
Anarchy is fucking stupid too.
Eventually some smart silver tongued faggot with a bunch of resources will talk a bunch of people into fallowing and working for him in return for safety and basic necessities. Eventually going around leading these people in stealing it from other people not in the group and setting himself up as a king of sorts.
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Twilight transforms them all into NEETs at the end.
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>>27195735
Image the chaos if they put pepe in the show
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>>27195687

>/mlp/ will hate Flutter Butter

Just wait for the incest and gay porn, he will be a shining armor 2.0
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>>27195732
no, that's normal
it's better be a wagecuck than a full neet
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>>27195729

It won't work either, because people aren't all going to hold hands and sing "Kumbaya". History demonstrates repeatedly that the core of all human nature is selfish ambition.

Basically, you're fucked, since you were born human. Fight it if you must, but realize that you're going to lose in the end.
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>>27195755
>Flutterbro doesn't like most of the other animals
>He manages to commiserate with a frog though
I hope.
I dare to hope.
I dare, TO DREAM!
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I want /pol/ to leave. Nothing but thread derailments into neckbeard politics discussions lately.
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Somoene post this in rk9 pls
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>>27195639
Well memed, fan of the fandom drink bleach.
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>>27195767
>>27195771
This episode might permanently associate pepe with normalfags, that's if they make a Pepe reference or he REEEEEES
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>>27195387
>It's a Fluttershy learns to stand up for herself episode.
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I just want to know if fluttermother is hot
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>>27195768
I honestly think the internet needs to temporarily ban political discussion in general. Way to many Naziboos and commies/SJW's being made and its going to hurt society hard if it continues.
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>>27195768

Welcome to /mlpol/. Thus it ever has been.
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>>27195812
Society is already broken
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>>27195816
And Fascists and Commies will take advantage of that to make it even worse.
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>>27195795
Even if she's not, fanart (and by that I mean porn) will find a way to make her hot.
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>>27195812

Lefty vs Righty politics is little more than the inevitable result of a culture raised on team sports and bandwagon-jumping. All it is, is people picking sides and rooting for their own team. No matter who wins, the power behind the throne continues to rig the system in their own favor.
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>>27195728
Yeah, again, you need to read some basic shit on what socialism is. "A single glance through history" tells you almost nothing about an ideology as complex as communism.
Here's the other side of socialism you didn't even know existed, yet has been around as long, and is as influential to modern political movements, as the kind you're generalizing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

>>27195747
see
>>27195729

>>27195762
>muh human nature
It wasn't true when Rand used it justify genocide, and it isn't true now.

>>27195812
>>27195822
>the truth is somewhere in the middle
see
>>27195597


>>27195834
If by "left" you mean left-leaning moderates (liberals), and by "right" you mean right-leaning moderates (conservatives) yeah you're totally right.
If you're being an edgy truther and you think "the power behind the throne" is the jews/Illuminati/lucifer, you need to stop.
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>>27195854
Give me a real world example of communism working or fuck off.
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Calling it. Flutter Brutter will be /hhh/'s newest fetish.
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I just wanna watch cute pone. Y'all niggas need to stop getting so offended by "DA CAPITALIST REGIME".
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>ITT: butthurt retards that don't know the difference between socialism and communism
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>>27195755
>his color scheme is green with blue hair and his lips are orange from eating spaghetti
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>>27195869

They're just derailing the thread because the show is so bad right now they need to change subject.
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What are the chances that he uses internet lingo and talks like a 4channer/Redditor?
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>/pol/ derail a thread about NEET

Everyone to this thread

>>27195515
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>>27195869
This board is /pol/ with ponies. Get used to politics.

You know that Simpsons gif where Russia is revealed to be USSR, is there one where /mlp/ is revealed to be /pol/?
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>>27195854
>In the middle

I'm not "in the middle," I'm sternly against Identity Politics, puritanism and economic illiteracy, Naziboos and SJW's represent all those things
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>>27195882
>I want to come inside, Fluttershy
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>>27195854

"Power behind the throne"

The wealthy, the powerful, and the corporate elite, regardless of whether they hold political office or not. And that goes double for the greatest scam in human history, organized religion.
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>>27195784
>yfw he calls one of the M6 a normie
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>>27195890

Motherfucking THIS!
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>>27195387
>he's probably a mountain dew chugging, cheetos-eating mama's boy.
Now I really can't wait to see the incest porn between him and Fluttershy.
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How would you react if he acts like Ali G?
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The fuck is wrong with this family?
How do you let one kid become painfully afraid of social situations and her own shadow, and the other you let become a useless freeloader and a burden? Sounds like bad parents to me
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>>27195897

I will be laughing way too hard.
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>>27195913
It would be hilarious and it would become my favorite episode of the season.
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>>27195914
Didn't her parents die in season 1?
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>>27195895

Organized religion is just corporate control in another form.

Actually, corporate control and wage-slavery is just another form of organized religion. The clerics/clergy came up with the idea first.
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>>27195913
Who is Ali G?
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>>27195913
I am laughing just thinking about it.
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>>27195936
Used to be Prime Minister 86' - 90'
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inb4 The father or the mother or both will have a talk and comparing him with his "most successful and independent" sister

How close to home will hit that scene?
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>>27195913
>I not grow a horn like hers, but I is once stopped my friend Gold Bar from eating more than he could at a buffet.
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>>27195387
This is gonna be beautiful.

>>27195946
Not at all. Whenever I see my sister she's breaking down and raging against life.
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>>27195387
>"FLUTTERSHY! WHERE ARE MY HAY TENDIES?"
>[Daymare playing in the background]
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>>27195946
That would be hilarious
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>>27195981
I really hope that rumor is true
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>all the NEET's in this thread bitching because the episode makes fun of NEET's

You're not actually PROUD to be living with your parents, are you? I know I couldn't wait to move out when I was.
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>>27195981
/r9k/ will hang themselves or die from sheer rage.
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>>27195387
What the fuck is Discord doing meanwhile.
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>>27196011
10/10
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>>27196002
It's normalfags picking up and using NEET terminology they don't understand is what worries me.
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I feel like a lot people are gonna hate this episode cause it'll hit to close to home, even if it's good, it'll be like Equestria Games on steroids and make a lot of the fandom super uncomfortable.
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>>27196011
Kek
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>>27196034
It is a rehash of the Breezies episode.
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>>27196011
Impressive. Very nice.
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>>27195732

That just means you probably live in a large city, not a rare thing for people to ether stay with their family for a while or live with like 5 roommates in that situation, and honestly Id take my family over the 5 roommates.
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>>27196041

You can't really know that until you watch it.
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>>27195505
I can't wait to see the Japanese fandom's reaction to the episode. I bet they'll be shedding delicious tears for the loss of their honorary Japanese Yamato Nadeshiko pony when they realize that their NEET ways will remind Fluttershy of her dead weight of a brother and will probably hate them for it.
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>>27196048

Better the devil you know than the devil you don't, yeah?
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Finally, an episode that needed to be done.

I doubt it'll get the message across to all the welfare swine running rampant around here.

Get a job. Be useful. Vote for someone who will make and bring back jobs.
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>>27196078
They'll move onto a new fandom, like that zootopia film that just came out they're going wild for.
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>>27195728

>my life is so hard! ;_;

Get a job or marry a big strong man who will take care of you in exchange for loving your bottom hole every night.
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>>27196034
Mojo, is there any place we can talk thats' not open?
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>>27196083
Holy shit. I didn't think about it like this. What if this unintentionally becomes a Trump vs. Sanders story?
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>>27196078

Eh, apparently the Jap fandom is mostly Apple and Rarifags anyway.
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>>27196107

uhhhhh........... How do you know I am this "Mojo" and if I am how do I know who it is that would want to talk to me.
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>>27196011
Oh god I can't wait for this episode. I hope her brother makes some kind of reeee noise when she confronts him.
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>>27196078

Fluttershy isn't even the favourite M6, that is applejack, the most japanese pony for the nips
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>>27196137
Posting the same thing every corner on the internet makes it more than obvious.
But Actually I found an obvious way to talk to you that I didn't need to ask about so nevermind that.
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>>27195946
My sister is an SJW so she hates me for all sorts of reasons.
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>>27195862
Communism is a resistance movement to capitalism, in the same way capitalism was a resistance movement against feudalism.
There aren't examples of it "working", because it has never existed to work or not.

You're misunderstanding what communism is. If you want real examples of our ideology being put into practice, you can look at the tens of thousands of worker's coops set up around the world. You can look at the hundreds of revolutionary democratic, communal movements that have existed throughout the centuries. Since you seem actually incapable of finding this kind of thing yourself, starters include the Diggers, a bunch of Peasant revolts, the CNT-FAI, the EZLN, the Situationists, and just about any communist party that existed pre-WWII outside of Russia.

If communism had ever existed to make claims about whether it "worked" or not, there would have been a time where modern capitalism is overthrown. That obviously hasn't happened, so there's no way that anybody can make claims like that.

inb4 "you can't even name one example"

>>27195876
>difference
lib plz

>>27195890
>>27195906
Propertarian nationalism isn't anything special. Still firmly right-wing, and only barely more right than the American middle.

>>27195895
>>27195927
Uh huh.
We have a word for that, they're called the bourgeoisie.

>>27196083
>>27196104
Ghost plz
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>>27195703
did you fuck your sister?
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>Click on thread expecting it to be about a shitty episode
>It's politichat
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>>27196197
>caring about shitty show discussion about a shitty episode we know nothing about
It was either going to be this or the thread would just die, and we live in a bad timeline.
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Just out of curiosity, is it really possible that Hasbro would let an episode through that might end with a significant portion of their fanbase feeling insulted?
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>>27196245
Yes
>What is MMC
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>>27196251
That didn't insult fans.
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>>27196245
Cant say how little girls are supposed to feel insulted with this premise.
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>>27196245
Maybe that's their plan, make them all insulted so they stop watching and go do something useful with their lives
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>>27196245
>Fluttershy's parents are super rich and have a mansion in Cloudsdale
>A new cloud mansion playset is released shortly after the episode
The little girls are what drive sales, my friend.
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>>27196011
Perfect.
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>>27196259
>>27196260
>>27196262
Maybe they are trying to create a character more despicable than Flash Sentry.
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>>27196150
But Fluttershy also bears many similarities to the Yamato nadeshiko archetype, which is what caused Japanese fans to declare her an honorary Japanese in the first place.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YamatoNadeshiko
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>>27196259
>>27196260
>>27196262
Why would little girls want to buy a NEET stallion toy?
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>>27196245
Yes, they'll even throw in 4chan maymays they don't understand
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>>27196156

Well... lets see it then.
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>>27196150

Last poll out of Japan I saw had Rarity edging out Applejack actually, granted that was a year and a half ago so might be different now.

Rainbow Dash was the one they liked the least, which didn't surprise me much actually.
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>>27195946
>tfw you are the succesfull brother
the sad thing is my brother feed from my spoils. he's not even worthy to be called my shadow
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>>27196277
They wont, they will laugh at the loser guy and remember that all Neets are fucking losers while they grow up wanting a dreamy guy like SA
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>>27196293
Well she does seem to be the one that gets tormented the most in their fanvids.
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>>27195387
Place your bets
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Oh fuck it's aimed at us, at the husks of people who can't get off the ride.

It's telling us to stop being fucking failures.
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>>27195387

>fluttershy's brother is an older disgusting NEET
>not a cute shota with a big cock that she likes to take advantage of

RUINED
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/r9k/ the episode.

If this was "realistic" (I mean, this is a show about talking ponies, but still) then Fluttershy's brother probably wouldn't even have a cutie mark. Since the whole meaning of one is a sign of maturity (in some ways) and finding your calling in life, neither of which any NEET has.
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>>27196288
There, let's talk on derpibooru
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>>27196344

Rainbow dash is our last chance to get some shota incest in MLP
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>>27196375

But dash only fit with the classic "bitch sister that abusse sexually her little brother" character and not the "lovely sister that love her little brother".
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>>27196316

Rainbow Dash just culturally isn't a good fit for Japanese fans I think.
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Please let him be fat!
Please let him be fat!
Please let him be fat!
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>>27196348
Self employment is a thing dum dum
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>>27196348
>cutie marks are just designations for your occupation within the capitalist system
>you can't be an adult unless you're striving to force yourself to work within capitalism, even if it is actively bad for you
This is propaganda speaking, mang.
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Stop it /mlp/, my self esteem can't get anymore erect.
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>>27195387
So, think we're gonna see her parents aswell?
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>>27195387
Of all the theories about Fluttershy's brother, "/r9k/ basement dweller" was probably the last thing I'd have expected.

I mean, everyone is thinking the same thing, there's posts at Equestria Daily and Derpibooru saying that he's a surrogate for the "brony audience".
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>>27196011
"and why aren't you in uniform?"
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>>27196399
>implying
Dash loves Tank
She's just a tsundere
But no, Dash is an only child because they decided that one was fucking enough.
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>>27196011

>"MOOOOOM! Tell Flutters to leave me alone!"
>"Flutters, leave your big brother alone. H-He'll find a job on his own time when he's refreshed...right honey?"
>"MOOOOM! I told you I can't find a job on an empty stomach! Now go get me some hayburgers! I'M STARVING!"
>"T-There's no need to yell honey, I'm r-right here."
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>>27195567
The fuck?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHv2SkfZVt8

Let's hope the episode is even half as good as this.
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How much GBP does Fluttershy's brother have?
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>>27195387
Well, I guess I don't have to watch every episode.
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Didn't we kinda have this with the Breezies wanting to live with Fluttershy? Didn't she have to put her hoof down and stop accommodating them and did so without too much effort?
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>>27195639

>le season 2 was last good season meme
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>>27196602

Flutterbro is a weeabo too?
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>Fluttershy's neet brother
>Sunburst
>Moondancer
The fuck is with the sudden rise of neets on this show?
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>>27196771
all the good background jobs for background ponies are taken
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>>27196011
>>27196344
>>27196602
>>27196688


>NEET brother gets fluttershy to dress up in a maid outfit to take care of him
>gets pissed off when she keeps telling him to get a job in subtle ways
>finally has enough of being a NEET virigin
>gets behind a startled fluttershy
>mounts her and tells her to keep quiet
>she's scared and starts crying asking him to get off her
>he's lost his senses
>has a small raging hard and presses it against her ponut
>she's screaming now
>he hits her to get her to shut up
>ruts her for a good 7 seconds before he blows his load
>fluttershy runs back crying to her home
>her friends wonder what's wrong with her
>she hardly speaks anymore
>she cries whenever they mention her brother

wew lad
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>>27196771

Hasbro want to make a mane6 team with NEETs, we already have 2 unicorns, we need 2 pegasus and 2 earth ponies
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>>27196771
The last two clearly had mental issues though, and wasn't a case of laziness. And neither of them still lived at home.

Fluttershy's brother really might be a NEET stereotype though, given the "freeloader" comment.
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>>27196795
Well he has mental issues. Hence his fear of failure.
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>>27196784

Her brother film that rape?

He would make a millions if he sell that shit
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Brought to you by Josh Haber
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>>27196333
>triple trips
He's probably gonna be fat and neckbeardy just to mess with shippers.
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>>27196771
If you're not a worker horse like Mac, a nerd like Sunburst, or some level of faggot on a scale of Carmel to Hoity Toity, you're a NEET, or a colt.
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>>27196348
A cutie mark is a special talent...you can be a jobless loser and be talented, it's called most people who went to art school

My brother is a pretty good artist and is also good at computer shit, he lives at home and will likely never leave due to crippling anxiety
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>Literally Season 6 renamed Season4Chan
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>>27195516
>Season 6
>Lord Dragon
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>>27195387
Someone edit one of these to imply nyx
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>>27196837
>A cutie mark is a special talent
No. No it's not.
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>>27196602
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>he watches my little human
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>>27196855
>Fluttershy's brother is the previous Dragon Lord
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>>27196908
>"Oh brother, why do you waste your time on a little fillies cartoon? What's the appeal?"
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>>27195387
I hope they nip it in the ass right off the bat using her breezie lesson to start it off. If the whole episode is her not kicking him out I'll be pissed. Have him take over weather duty since RD is joining the Wonderbolts full time.
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>>27196182
your a plage
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>>27196880
Sometimes a cutie mark *is* the talent, it really depends on the episode. Magical Mystery Cure and The Cutie Map are the two worst offenders.

In these episodes, a cutie mark is the *source* of a pony's talent/magic and very life. They are compelled to act out what "their cutie mark is telling them" (even if they have the wrong one), and losing a cutie mark means also losing the talent that went with it (and being dulled out, similar to what Discord did). Without a cutie mark, you are literally nothing, which kind of flies in the face of everything that's ever been said to encourage the CMCs.

This is in contrast to both earlier and later episodes, in which a cutie mark is just an outward expression of something they've always had, after they've come to a true realization of it.
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>sorry, we need someone with a PhD in cloudkicking and 30 years experience minimum
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>>27195516

To be honest, if I had a brother like that I'd be ashamed to admit it. But this sounds like both her and her brother might well have anxiety issues, only she ended up isolating herself with her animals and he went full hikikomori.

Fluttershy doesn't talk about her family because she's honestly fucking embarrassed about them.
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>>27196182
Personally I don't think communism is practical, at least at not at our current level of technology. One day there will be nanotechnology that will make everything 100% recyclable and an entire workforce of robots to replace the human workers making labor costs nothing or almost nothing ushering in the age of post-scarcity where everything is free and nobody has to work. But until then capitalism is the best system we have for distributing resources. It's not perfect but it works.
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>>27196940
I'm guessing that's not Cruz, but it really looks like him with the fat roynding it off.

And yeah, we're a plague to capitalism.
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>>27196293

Rarity gets affection as an "auntie".

Dash is just a rude shallow prick to the JP fanbase.
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>>27196954
i call bullshit on that one
dash didn't finish pegasi academy, and she's working in the rainbow factory, and soon-to-be wonderbolt
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>>27196922

Fluttershy is a fucking weeb, she has no right to complain.
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>>27196931
That WILL be the entire episode, right up to the end.

When I really think of it now, I think he ended up exactly like Fluttershy but wasn't fortunate enough to have a special destiny and a support system of friends, so he just became severely withdrawn and just gave up. In other words, he's Fluttershy's Moondancer.

Moondancer and Twilight were identical, but Twilight got singled out by destiny and the unlucky ones who didn't got left behind in one way or another. This happened to Moondancer, Big Mac and possibly now Fluttershy's brother as well.

I really hope it's something like an "inadequate compared to his sister" story instead of "freeloading, lazy NEET asshole".

"Destiny" has really never sat well with me for storytelling. Take Harry Potter, the main character of which is a mediocre, passive piece of shit compared to his other two friends and most other characters in general. But he was chosen and lucked his way through life, which makes him great through no work of his own, because of a stupid prophecy and a bunch of lore over wands so Voldemort commits suicide.

The season five finale of FiM completely reassures this, in that "the Rainboom" tied them all together and ultimately saved Equestria. They were "destined" to become best friends, and never would have without it (at least not all six of them together).
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>>27196948
The cutie mark is the magical representation of your talent, and as Twilight proved in "Call of the Cutie", you can't even put a fake one on, since your talent is a magical manifestation. To remove it and replace it is powerful magic that in the Cutie Map was actively suppressing their natural magic talents, reducing strength, energy, etc.
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>>27197110
Only Starlight's actively reduced and limited one's potential, but we've seen what happens when one gains cutiemarks in cases like Cutie Pox where they're able to manifest any talent that's gained, even if its not naturally theirs.

Strangely, this was contradicted by MMC, seeing that none of the ponies were good at the jobs their talents gave them
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>>27195644

What if Rainbow already knows him in person?

What if most of Flutters' inner circle knows him just by mention (but not knowing he's a NEET)?

It don't have to have the same kind of reaction they had in Canterlot Wedding.
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>>27195670
>Accepting Shining
No.
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>>27197152
Magical Mystery Cure was really weird in general, because their memories were altered so that they had the talents for all their lives, but then their true talent seemingly began to manifest in their minds suddenly, making them not great at what they thought was their life's purpose. Only the magic of their element of harmony could force the cutie mark to sort of reset.

With Cutie Pox, it was the effect of the magic potion, so the effect of cutie marks manifesting under that is weird, since it not only granted the talent, but compelled you to perform it.
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>>27195670
>Everyone came to love and accept Shining Armor

Yes, but that just happened over time as more episodes and comics with him and Cadence happened.

At the beginning him and Cadence brought mixed reactions, anon.
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>>27195387
I just imagine the episode starting with Fluttershy getting a letter while everyone's over for tea, maybe even Discord, and he's like
>"Brother? How have you never mentioned you have a brother?"
and Fluttershy's like
>"Oh, um... he's kind of an embarrassment."
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>>27196880
Name one instance where a cutie mark doesnt represent a special talent....not counting ponies whos talent has never been revealed like Snips and Snails
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>>27196182

>is told to get a job

>dismisses this

>starts talking about communism

I'm just curious, what country do you presently live in?
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>>27196344
> Fluttershy, being the loving oldest sister, takes care of her little brother's sexual needs.
This makes me wish Fluttershy were my big sister.
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Why do Americans hate their families so much and are always in such a rush to move away from them?

By the time you can actually contribute to the well being of the home / bills they move to a tiny apartment with no food and little money.
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>>27197313
It's just the culture here. Being independent and starting your own life not tethered to someone else is considered success.
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>>27195541
-Discord will be back to evil and be dead in the S6 finale.
-Twilight Sparkle will resign as princess and be turn back into her unicorn form in the finale.
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>>27195895

>the greatest scam in human history, organized religion.

Can you please enlighten us with your intelligence, anonymous 4chan poster?
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>>27197313
Its a cultural thing.
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>>27196996
It's the best compared to what?
Resource distribution is one of the key things that capitalism /inherently/ fucks up. There has never, ever been an ethically justifiable distribution of the means of survival under any capitalist economic system. At best, the state capitalism of Marxist-Leninst regimes gave everyone under their power bread. That's more than can be said for the neoliberal shitshow that's taken over the world since the 80's, but it's far from what's ideal or possible.
The US spends enough money on poverty treatment per year, /right now/, to give every single US citizen in poverty a flat annual income of twenty thousand dollars.
The US has enough empty living spaces to give every homeless person in its borders six homes, each.
The top 100 richest people in the world have enough (declared) capital to give every single person on Earth a reliable source of food, clean water, and shelter.

Those kinds of statistics are seen across every economic disparity.
This isn't just "not perfect", it's despicable and unncessary selfishness, a wealth disparity we haven't seen since the times of Ancient Egypt and with consequences that stretch around the whole globe. It has no basis in the material conditions of the world, it only exists like this because of the logic, the ideology, of capitalism.
We can do better, the only thing holding us back is the minority on top who are scared to death about losing what they stole from us.
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>>27197097
I thought of a story where an antagonist actively tries to further prevent any magical restrictions so anyone can fire super laser beams.
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>>27195387
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Fluttershy's parents have never been seen before by Twilight because they are ashamed of the social rejecteds they have for children... While Twilight's mom and dad raised a future prince & princess.
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>>27195387
This will be the Amending Fences of this season. Everyone will adopt Flutter's brutter as their new husbando because of muh relatability.
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>>27197313
Personally I come from an Asian family, and like most Asian families I'm not expected to move out of the house until I get married. In fact when my dad got divorced he ended up moving back in with my grandma, but then he remarried and moved into another house with his new wife.

However I would much rather get my own apartment, since my two aunts and grandma that I live with are very religious (our family is Catholic) and so if I happen to find a girl online that is willing to let me have sex with her I can't bring her over to the house to fuck. I do however have a job at the very least, so there's that.
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>>27197313

Americans loathe being a burden on others. They value independence and self-reliance, and they achieve this by supporting themselves, no matter how much they have to sacrifice. Living at home with your parents is seen as childish and shameful, unless your parents are extremely old and disabled and thus need your help.
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>>27197335
does repeating that mantra to yourself bring you to orgasm or something?
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>>27197381
All things considered I wasnt expecting that episode going as far with an actual common friendship issue.
Im expecting Fluttershy's brother problem be solved with a ''Just b urself''
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>>27195784
>>27195897
oh my god it'd be such a trainwreck, it'd be glorious
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>>27197357

What happens after we take all the rich people's money? Where do we get more?
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What if her brother is actually some kind of genius, just too afraid to show the world anything he is working on?
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>>27197429
So Sunburst?
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>>27197429
>yet another pony surpasses Twilight in someway.
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>>27197386

Do you expect your girlfriend to only have sex with you and not any other men?
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>>27197294
What, the Ghost thing?
I just sort of think it's hilarious how you're at once willing to say "get a job" while also explicitly acknowledging the fact that there are not enough US jobs. It's nonsense, that's why I dismissed it.
Also, "starts"? I was talking about communism a while before you were talking about muh bootstraps.

American, btw. Are you going to pull a "my parents lived in Soviet Khazakstan" thing or a "you can't talk about communism if you're in the first world" thing?
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>>27197429
!!!!
What if he is like Elliot Alderson?

>has social anxiety
>has sister issues (big time)
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>>27195743
yep, as soon as anon can stick his dick in him /mlp/ flips their opinion on a character.
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>>27197401
"Be yourself" is such a flawed statement. It *only* works if there's nothing wrong with you to begin with, and you were acting out of line to (usually) try and impress someone and made a fool of yourself.

People have "been themselves" for years and have been either ignored, scorned or ridiculed so it's clear that they need to *change* because there's something wrong with them.
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>>27197455
That would be amazing, but what would be the Equestria equivalent of hacking?
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>>27197453

>you're at once willing to say "get a job" while also explicitly acknowledging the fact that there are not enough US jobs

There are plenty of jobs out there, you're just not looking for them, are you? Or you think you're "special" and you're holding out for your "dream job", and think you're too good to sweep floors and empty trash cans like everyone else?
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>>27197357
Would you rather have resources distributed unevenly and enjoy your current standard of living or would you rather have the wealth be distributed equally with everyone miserable and living in poverty due to the scarcity of resources?
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>>27197471
It depends, sometimes that is true and sometimes you are dealing with the wrong people.
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>>27197377

>Fluttershy is so ashamed of her brother that she hasn't mentioned him in 6 seasons
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>>27197455
Then he can be an active character to help save the day.

He can be an anti-hero.
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Oh, so the brother is a Bernbot.
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>>27197491

But you don't know it would be like that because Communism has never been tried
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>>27195541
>Dragons, including a girl dragon. Appear in Hearthswarming Eve episode, and visit to their homeland
>implying we might get another female dragon in the show
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>>27195387
>Anon stars in MLP
I can't lie, I'm actually kinda hyped.
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>>27195516
I mean come on, it's the current season!
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>>27195387
I just want to see more of the mane 6's parents
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>>27196011
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>>27197429
You mean like the dancing colt who's surprisingly good at what he does, but a total coward when it comes to performing? I'd like to hope we could avoid reusing that sort of parallel.
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>>27197597
Yes, or Sunburst...

Or this!
>>27197455
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>>27197570
>Anon=Human
>Fluttershy=Pony
>Fluttershy's brother
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>>27197429
What if he's just a complete and utter waste of pony life and the episodes lesson is "some people cannot be saved"
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>>27197645
For all intents and purposes he's basically pony anon, stop being dense.
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>Flutter's brother is a neckbeard NEET
This amuses me greatly
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>>27197682
>A neckbeard neet that would most likely change his way.
Well...Is hasbro telling us something?
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>>27197682
They better actually give him a neckbeard.
And he better try to hit on Rarity.
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>>27197682
Cool Italian Lapis get out of here
totally looking out for you on /co/ though
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>>27197707
>Well...Is hasbro telling us something?
"Stop buying our toys!"
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>>27197418
Wealthy people do not create wealth, they accumulate it. Their capital comes from production, that production is done by workers. Under capitalism, the total capital that a production produces, the sum value, is split into two parts.
1. The labor-cost: How much money it takes to gather and work tools, including the wages of the worker
2. The surplus value: The profit of the production, basically, that goes to the boss

The wealth of the rich is completely based on their access to surplus value.
For example, take Apple. Let's say, for the sake of the example, that Apple gets all their money from their goods sales like a squeaky clean, stereotypical business is supposed to.
If the cost of the machines and materials is 1 billion dollars, the wages of all the workers is also $1 billion, and the products sell for a total of $5 billion, the surplus value of the production is $3 billion. That $3 bil goes directly into the pockets of the people on top.
Pretty typical, right?

Let's look at it from another perspective.
A group of workers put together a set of goods worth $5 billion, of which $4 billion was not necessary for the production, and only got $1 billion in return.
What justification is there for giving a dozen executives, who did almost nothing to produce it, so much of the capital, while the millions of workers, who actually made the goods, have to survive off of pennies? What could possibly be lost by distributing the profits of production throughout the workforce that made the profit in the first place? What could those few on top possibly be doing to justify that kind of disparity?

You know the old joke you see in cartoons that goes like:
"We're breaking our backs over here, what are you doing?"
"I'm supervising!"
It's like that, except it's not a joke, backs actually break, and the supervisor is paid billions of dollars while the people under him live in garbage.
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>>27197730
>"buy the new flutterbro basement playset!"
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>>27197021
she got her job before the economy crashed, duh.
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>>27195387
another pony male that is a jerk. oh please..
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>>27197877
>jerk
Fluttershy's brother is Dan?
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>>27195387
>Equestria, a quaint fantasy land so appealing that many grown men would give up their humanities and lives on this world, to become ponies and move there
>Expect it to be a fantastic world where they can start over and have the life they were denied before
>This episode will show that, even if that could happen, you'll be just as despised there if you make no effort to improve yourself and just expect everyone to like you right off the bat
>FANTASY RUINED MOVE TO NEXT FANDOM
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>>27197730
>mfw I've had to force myself to stop buying merch
And I don't even have any Rarity or Starlight merch
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>>27197551
>What is the USSR? What is the PRC, DPRK or Cuba?
I know what it would be like without those technologies from those failed attempts. With those technologies it would be like The Federation on Star Trek.
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>>27197730
No, they are telling you to man up, marry, have kids and have them ask you to buy their stuff.
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>>27195767
I've been saving a very rare Pepe for a long time now, it is time I pass it on to someone who is worthy it.
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>>27197830
>Wealthy people do not create wealth, they accumulate it. Their capital comes from production, that production is done by workers
You assume that they do nothing, except that they do. They manage and oversee the whole operation, and have to make decisions about where to allocate funds and make investments that will make returns. Just because they aren't doing physical labor, that doesn't mean they aren't doing work.
>Let's say, for the sake of the example, that Apple gets all their money from their goods sales like a squeaky clean, stereotypical business is supposed to.
>If the cost of the machines and materials is 1 billion dollars, the wages of all the workers is also $1 billion, and the products sell for a total of $5 billion, the surplus value of the production is $3 billion. That $3 bil goes directly into the pockets of the people on top.
>Pretty typical, right?
Actually, no. Profit margins are incredibly small. These huge businesses are lucky to make more than 3 cents off the dollar. Let's take a liberal estimate, and say that Apple made 5 cents profit for every dollar spent, which is ludicrous, because even oil companies barely touch that profit margin. They make 3 billion dollars profit: that's 63 billion dollars in sales that they had to make in order to get that profit. The other 60 billion dollars was spent on workers' wages, tech development and research, advertisement, overhead costs, etc. The reason these executives make so much money is because their operations are so massive and they employ so many people. Stop pulling numbers out of your ass and learn how businesses operate before you pull some pseudo-moral bullshit.
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>>27196910
so fluttershy's brother is Torch? that explains why she's afraid of dragons.
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>>27195946
Very

A-at least I'm starting to look for a job
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>>27197478
There aren't any jobs, motherfucker. You assholes always galavant around, talking about working at McDonalds or Dunkin Doughnuts.
Go fucking try to get a job with no connections. McDonalds isn't hiring. Dunkin isn't hiring. Nobody is hiring. They especially aren't hiring the poor people who don't have enough money to go to school, and they aren't hiring the young adults with mountains of student loans trying to enter the job market with no experience.
What in the ever loving fuck are we supposed to do?
You want to cut welfare? How the hell are the 47 million people in poverty in this country supposed to feed themselves? Do you propose we eat garbage and rob Wal-Mart?
Seriously, I'd really love to hear the ideas of some financially stable asshole who hasn't ever even imagined living like that. Maybe I could even use your bootstraps to hang myself.

>>27197491
Spare me the propaganda, please.
We do face a crisis of scarcity, but that is completely the fault of the capitalist drive to endless exploitation.
Water, food, shelter. That's what people need.
Water: While we are using it at a ridiculous rate, we won't be running out of it anytime soon. Problems with contaminated water are undeniably a problem of distribution and lack of infrastructure.
Food: One third of the world's food is wasted. That is more than enough to feed everyone starving. Just the amount of food wasted in the US alone is equal to the entire food production of Sub-Saharan Africa.
Shelter: Again, completely a problem of distribution.
The amount of money spent on a skyscraper in a city could easily cover the cost of actual homes for the people in its slums.

That's nothing compared to the rest of the value wasted under capitalism. But even if it stopped there, with assured food, assured water, and assured shelter, without meaningless stress or endless anxiety because of the violence inherent to capitalist exploitation, you'd have to be psychopathic and blind to call that miserable.
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>"It's the new Flutterbro Basement Playset, from Hasbro!"
>"Comes with Flutterbro, two piss jar accessories, a plate of hay tendies, and a crusty sock."
>"Have fun acting out his crippling depression and lack of self esteem as he wastes away his days clopping to Neighponese manga and crying loudly about how he is a failure!"
>"Only 29.99."
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>>27198008
Not that guy, but...

>Muh decisions
We're talking about shareholders, the ones who OWNS the buisness, not the ones who RUNS it, this is a completely diferent thing

>The owners actualy only get a small part of the cake
How does that justify for only 12 people getting the 3 millions?
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>>27198096
I had no job for a few years, moved across the country and got a job easily in a growing city. I hated uprooting myself from my home state but I got work and will live a decent life
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Oh man, look at all th butt hurt already and the episode hasn't even aired.

This is going to be delicious.
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>>27197561
This comment about the currently-unseen animatic was made before Gantlet of Fire aired. This female dragon is probably Ember again
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>>27198117
>We're talking about shareholders, the ones who OWNS the buisness, not the ones who RUNS it, this is a completely diferent thing
>How does that justify for only 12 people getting the 3 millions?
It's literally their money. They invest capital, and when their investments are successful, they get a proportionate amount of that capital back. If the investment doesn't do well, they lose money. Why do they owe you shit?
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>>27195387
I expect this to be a lot like that Spongebob episode in which Squidward moves in with Spongebob, pretty much making him his servant.
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>>27197983

Getting married and having kids is vastly overrated. In case you hadn't noticed, there are already too many fucking people around. It's called overpopulation, and it's a real problem.
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Welcome to the EHK
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>>27198174
I don't live in india or china
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>>27198096
https://youtu.be/hWTFG3J1CP8
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>>27195387
Anything other than 20 minutes of one scene after another showing Fluttershy being used and her getting more and more fed up would surprise me. I don't have high hopes for this one, but we'll see.
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>Well, if they are going to die then they had better get on with it, and decrease the surplus population.

Yeah, okay pal. Who, in your esteemed judgement, is surplus population?
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>>27198146

>Why do they owe you shit?
Because it's the worker, and no the owner who by his work increased the value of material by making them into a product

The owner added litterely 0 value by himself to the product while the work of a slaryman did
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>>27198206
I think the focus will be on the brother, from the sounds of things.

imagine the end of the episode, fluttershy is being nudged by her friends to push him out of the house. then he just comes out the front door, thanks her for the stay and leaves, having gone on some wacky adventure without them noticing.
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>>27198217
So by your word, the owner shouldn't be there? Since he does nothing except collect money, his position is redundant? No?
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>>27198244
Exactly
That's kinda the whole
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>>27195387

so this will make Ember/Spike haters shut up?

will this flood the board with even more art than Ember?
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>>27198254
point
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>>27198257
>falling for the false flagging
Also no, it wont
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>>27198254
>>27198259
Okay then, so where does the money funnel to? Who distributes the capital? Who decides what each person deserves? Who decides where to invest that extra capital? Who manages the budget? Who oversees the operation? What person has knowledge of all the working parts?

Currently, you're saying that the owners don't do anything, so then who does?
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>>27197830

What's the point of going to work if no matter how hard I work, I get the same amount of money no matter what?
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>>27198294
That's cause you're working for someone else, who deems your time and effort less valuable than what you do.

Work for yourself mate. It's hard, but well worth it.
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>>27195387
I remember a while back that someone hinted that there was a very special guest about Fluttershy's brother being voiced by Charlie Day.

Could it be true?
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>>27198174
If there's too much people the there should be someone out there for any of you, right?

And, in the end, that's the right thing to do, at least for me (that is, to marry and have kids). You want to be happy, right? I want you to be happy too 'cause I know how is it to feel self-condescending. It's because we are so blind trying to find power to change our lifes out of us that we don't realize it is ultimately our choice to make any relevant change that will lead us and the ones around us to happiness.

You're a valuable fag, anon. Don't lose anymore chances life gives you.
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>>27198096

>there aren't any jobs, motherfucker

Stopped reading. Go fantasize about your communist utopia, which you sincerely believe has never been tried before, while your parents work hard to keep you fed and pay for your internet connection.

You fucking parasite.
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>>27198325
I fucking hope so. It would make my life.
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>>27198325
It would make for so much entertainment because his character on the show would totally be like this too.

So no, 99.9% sure this is not going to be the case
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>>27198096
Sometimes it takes just a little bit of humility to face ourselves and realize it's not them, but us who are preventing change to happen in our lifes b/c we're so comfortable now. I'm not saying that's your case 'cause I don't know you, but hey, it's a possibility.

Change in some degree is always neccesary to find happiness.
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>>27198325
Imagine how hilarious it would be if that was the role they got Will Shatner for.
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>>27198287
Alright, from now on, all I'm gonna say is a theory that only exist in a French economist/sociologist vision, so knock yourself out with the "unrealistic" and "wouldn't work in the real world"

>Where does the money funnel to?
Benefits funnel to a chest, just like taxes. Let's call that the investment chest
>Who decides where to invest that extra capital?
>Who decides what each person deserves?
>Who distributes the capital?
An assembly composed by worker delagates, relevent local delegates and advised by abilitated ecomnomic adviors
>Who manages the budget?
Worker assembly
>Who oversees the operation?
State
>What person has knowledge of all the working parts?
Idealy, all the workers should get invested in learning about the company and buisness they work in, just like all citizens should be invested in the politics of the country they live in
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>>27198389
I can hear it now.
>"Um, you should really move out and get a job"
>"Oh... really now? How about you... make me"
>"You kind of suck"
>"No.... you"
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>>27198008
>>27197941
>wanting to live in a world where Marxist-Leninism worked
>wanting to live like the Federation
Gross. Technocrats are the worst.

>>27198008
Yeah, I see what you're saying and it's just that it's complete nonsense.
Socialists advocate worker control over the workplace, democratic collectives easily fill the role of managerial entity and do so better than profit-motivated bosses.
Even without this, I'd really like to hear the logic behind the idea that "because this entity manages a workplace, it has the right to every single cent of its profits over the interests of the people who actually made them".


Don't pull this shit about "pulling numbers out of my ass". The exact numbers are irrelevant to the logic of the example. But since you're willing to throw such a fit, I looked it up.
Last quarter, Apple made $20 billion in profit from $75 billion in revenue. Their gross average profit margin is 40%.
I'll repeat that.
Apple's gross profit margin is 40%. So, it's not 3 cents on the dollar. It's not 5 cents. It's 40 cents. Eight times your "ludicrous" estimate.

And even if the profit was a single dollar, I still don't see a satisfying answer as to why that dollar should go to some scumbag on the other side of the world.

Sorry about the tone, I understand that it's easy for this kind of discussion to get riled up.

>>27198120
Good for you, but you're an exception.

>>27198146
>its literally their money
This is your brain on capitalism.

>>27198294
Your job is most likely unnecessary to the functioning of a non-capitalist society, and the ridiculous amount of time you're forced to devote to it definitely is.
The amount of compensation you get from your job would be decided by you and your coworkers.
"To each according to his needs, from each according to his ability" and all.

>>27198287
Directly democratic workers collectives, running their own affairs in their workplace.
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>>27196041
The breezies didn't have to leave their parents houses and they weren't scared of failure.
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>>27195521
It's optimistic people like you that makes me want to keep going
Thanks anon
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>>27198410
>discussion about ideal forms of socialist organization
>State
DROPPED
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The ideal form of socialism is socialism within communism, communes be stateless bruv.
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>>27198334
>posting a picture of a group of people doing the same thing you're doing to pretend you have some sort of consensus
Why do you people always do the most pathetic shit?

>>27198386
I would love to pretend that it's a personal issue keeping me from getting a job, but my actual lack of job, in reality, is really distracting.
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>>27198474
Many contemporary eminent communist/socialist economist/sociologist are completely for a system with a state

If you could speak french, I'd show you this magnicicent video of a sociologist going at a lefty alter-mondialist convention, saying that a stateless society is a fucking pipe dream and people should just stop wanting that, and get a standing ovation at the end because he's just an absolute master at argumenting his point

Any assembly of delegates which has a concrete mean to enforce its decisions is a state already anyway
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If the first few seconds of this episode are a fatass male pony busting into Flutter's house that sits down and immediately starts playing videogames without any words spoken I will LOSE MY SHIT!
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>>27197715

>"Wew, that white pony sure is beautiful."
>"I bet she doesn't even notice me."
>"I bet she's dating some zebra..."
>"Yeah, she probably has two foals already. Fucking race traitor."
>"She's...laughing? Is she laughing at me?!"

>Rarity walks up to Flutterbro who is deep in his /pol/ thoughts.

>"Hi...uh....I'm Fluttershy's friend. So you're her brother we heard so much about? it's a pleasure to meet you."
"W-What? Are you talking to me??"
>"Uh....yes?"
>Flutterbro starts sweating with Rarity looking nervously at Fluttershy.
"A-Are you asking me out?"
>Spike
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>>27198520

If you put the same amount of effort into looking for work that you put into posting in this thread, I'm sure you would at least have an interview by now.

Here's a great place to start:

www.craigslist.org

Click on your city, then click on "all jobs". Come on! Remember what Fluttershy said? "Would you try, just give it a chance?"
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>>27198410
>An assembly composed by worker delagates, relevent local delegates and advised by abilitated ecomnomic adviors
How local? When you have a corp that employs hundreds of thousands of people, how many people is each delegate supposed to represent? Eventually, you either get a cluster fuck of delegates, or efficient delegates who represent such a large number, they're fairly removed from them.
>Worker assembly
So, some sort of board of individuals who make executive decisions?
>State
Why? What can the state offer that can't be insured by an informed group of workers? Why not cut out the middle man here?
>Idealy, all the workers should get invested in learning about the company and buisness they work in
Ideally, yes.

My final question to you is this: what stops these individuals from screwing over everyone else? You can say the state, but what stops the state from working with these individuals? You can say the people, but why not remove the state altogether from the equation, and let the people enforce their will upon the business? If they can't do that, then why give corporations the added benefit of state support? Because as it is now, they work together pretty well. Leftists are quick to point out that the government is run by corps. Tethering them together further isn't going to magically make that connection disappear. These issues of corruption, and people piggy-backing off the work of others will not go away with communism. It's only going to manifest in a new form.

>>27198439
Not a technocrat
>gross profit margin is 40%
You mean that number before business taxes and before paying the investors back their money?
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>>27198520
I've found all my jobs through friends or family, that's pretty much how the world works. That is, if you ONLY want to work, no studies or other business (which is an option, but I personally differ; I rather only study or study and find a job, not ONLY have a job).

Think of the m6: they all "work". How did they found their jobs? Forget the jobs, THEIR LIFE GOALS? Through friendship, isn't it? A very good mental excercise is to stop thinking about your needs for a while and start thinking of other people needs.
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>parents house

They better not wimp out, and actually show them.
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>>27198217

I'm no expert, but I think being in charge of a bunch of people and running a company involves more than zero work. Unless you're Gabe Newell, in which case your existence serves literally no purpose.
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>>27198539
>Many contemporary eminent communist/socialist economist/sociologist are completely for a system with a state
Yeah, the rest of the Left call these people scumbags and hypocrites.

>>27198608
Jesus, you people are actually delusional.

>>27198637
Yeah, that's what surplus value is. In a truly socialist workplace, these factors wouldn't exist. It would flow directly into the worker's collectives who would then distribute it however they see fit.

Also make sure to kick that statist's shit in for me, bb.

>>27198646
>A very good mental excercise is to stop thinking about your needs for a while and start thinking of other people needs.
This is called Stockholm Syndrome, Anon.
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>>27198706
It doesn't add any work that couldn't be managed better by the workers themselves, is the point.
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>>27198761
>Yeah, that's what surplus value is. In a truly socialist workplace, these factors wouldn't exist. It would flow directly into the worker's collectives who would then distribute it however they see fit.
Good luck getting people to agree on who deserves how much. Let's assume that the worker's collective are for the interests of the people they represent, what happens when gridlock occurs? Nobody agrees who deserves what, then nobody gets their money. And, let's be honest: gridlock will occur. Look at our democratic system now.
>Also make sure to kick that statist's shit in for me, bb.
Will do, famalamadingdong
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>>27198770
>A bunch of undereducated workers know how to run a business better than someone who is educated on how to run a business, and only has the job of running a business
No
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>>27198761

Watch this video. It explains what we're talking about using cute cartoon animals.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VeWC9V2qH-8
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Honestly I really hope they make him a completely piece of shit otherwise this episode is gonna hit way too hard
>Ano- I mean Flutterbrother tries to be somewhat likable but fails because anytime he talks he feels like he's being judged
>Decides to just hang back so that doesn't happen, but then feels like he's being judged for being a loner
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>>27198761
>Stockholm Syndrome

Hahaha, I guess we don't see kindness that much around us.

The best I can do as a friend is to tell you to be sincere about your mindset and do something about it. Be kind, be warm, be hardworking (starting with your little day-to-day stuff), don't fall for the real delusion that is skepticism, but don't be naive neither, and all things will work for the best.

I don't know you, but I have my hopes on you. I guess you've "kidnapped" me, lel.
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>>27198770

You think some random assembly line worker in China could have done a better job of running Apple than Steve Jobs?
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>>27198637
>How local
Depends
When I say local delegates, I think about the "out of the company" investment to found new companies, so I'm gonna say the locals who present the need of such new buisnesses
>delegates who represent such a large number, they're fairly removed from them
But they still have the status of worker, and can be replaced by other workers if their work as delegates is not satisfying to the majority
>So, some sort of board of individuals who make executive decisions?
Exaclty, except they're elected and not the superiors of their fellow workers

And than...
>What stops people from being assholes in the workpalce?

Investment in one's activity
Right now, the state of the society encourages hyper competitivity, profit at all cost, using each worker at its higher productivity at all time and a clear cut between the workers and the diection of their activity. People are ready to use each other as steptools to climb the hierarchy.
And all that puts the well-being at the work place at the bottom of the barrel
Getting a word to say in the running of your activity, and having the possibility to have your voice heard in a way less cruching hierarchy makes it a lot less likely for one to want to sink the whole boat

Of course, I'm not delusionnal enough to think it will magically solve all the problems in the world, not only because mentalities don't change overnight, but also because the working activity is only one structure among many which affect the aspiration and desires, and thus, the choices and actions of individuals.
And of course many new other struggle and forms of bribery will emerge from a new system
And as these new problems are discovered, there will be a need to adapt teh system to tackle them, and the solution will need to be enforce, that's why there's a need for a structured government, even imperfect

But still, I do believe it would be a huge improvement compared to the situation many people face today

>>27198706
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>>27195387
So what do you think he is going to sound like anons?
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>>27195387
I've decided to move out. This was my wake up call.
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Here's a trick. It's called pretending the episode doesn't exist. Here's how it works. Wasn't there an episode in the second season that had something to do with a super speedy cider squeezy thing? It doesn't seem to be in my library. I must be mistaken.

I've done that with about ten of them so far. Works wonders.
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>>27198938
next you will say you stopped watching the show after season 3 or something
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>>27198895
He did an excellent Job at squeezing the most money out of the chinese workes, there's no doubt about that
Why didn't he make his assembly line in america, again?
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>>27198946
you stopped watching the show after seas- NANI!?
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>>27198954
It's cheaper. He has no control over the working conditions there. In fact, those sweatshops are more than likely places of opportunity for those people. It's either work indoors for 14 hours, work in a field for 14 hours, or prostitution.
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>>27198935

>"M-maybe you should move out? If that's o-okay with you, I guess."
>Fluttershy breaks the 4th wall and meekly looks at the viewers

absolute madmen
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>>27195387
>fear of failure
Gee wonder where he gets it from
^:)
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>>27198973
>It's cheaper
Money making at all cost being the absolute and single goal of a company is an ideal that I never could get behind

>He has no control over the working conditions there. In fact, those sweatshops are more than likely places of opportunity for those people. It's either work indoors for 14 hours, work in a field for 14 hours, or prostitution.
"This is progress, and If I hadn't done it, someone else would" Said the Once-ler
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>>27198113
I would pay every cent for such a thing just for the shits and giggles alone.
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>>27195490

We're getting an actual fat neckbeard pony for the show and this is the only art so far?

You disappoint me internet.
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>>27195568
This.
I was expecting that her brother was the antinomy of her...
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>>27198973

This is what I've never understood about people who are against "shipping jobs overseas". Why should a poor farm worker in China or India not have a higher-paying job working in a factory or in customer service? Are they worth less than you?
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>>27196245
Hasbro is about money.

No matter how you slice it, MLP is a very strange predicament, and while the older fans do buy stuff on occasion, they probably damage revenue from actual little girls that just want to be princesses.

To be honest, would you let your daughter watch MLP? With all the porn out there? Actually never mind, don't awnser that.

Most family's wouldn't, and to be honest, I could see hasbro pulling some bullshit that removes the older audience to help get more of the target audience. It would never work, mlp is rivaling touhou and Pokemon in terms of sheer volume of porn, but I could see them trying it.
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>>27199017
>Money making at all cost being the absolute and single goal of a company is an ideal that I never could get behind
Capitalism is forced altruism. I have to offer something to you, or I don't eat.
>"This is progress, and If I hadn't done it, someone else would" Said the Once-ler
Doesn't change the fact that the people did it. Also, why stop at our borders? If you really want to play the moral game, those people in China need those jobs way more than you do. Why deny them that? If you want to go that route, we can. I'm fine with us running circles around each other all day.
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>>27195397
why. WHY!
this is horrible, I dont even know where to begin
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>>27199057
Are you retarded? Parents aren't stopping their kids from watching MLP because of internet porn. Do you know how much porn there is of Minnie mouse? Fucktons anon. Moms still set their toddlers down in front of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. I'm positive that 99% of parents have no idea what Bronies or clopping is and even if they did what would they care? It's not like their little girl is going to be exposed to it.
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>>27195516
we never heared about him because FS is ashamed of him
just like all our relatives in RL
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>>27198935

But you're giving in to the Capitalist system! Stay in your parents' house! Force them to let you live there! Force them to take care of you! If they don't like it, they should've had an abortion!
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>>27199075
>I have to offer something to you, or I don't eat.
I personally aspire for a little better than having to work with the pistol of starvation on my hed for the entirety of my life
>Those people in China need those jobs way more than you do
People in china don't need jobs strictly speaking, they need the standard of living that goes with it. It has been said in this very thread that the amount of ressources on earth would be sufficent for everyone should it be distributed the right way
Surely you've read the Grapes of Wrath, it's a classic for a reason
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>>27199057

My sister lets her daughter watch MLP. They know what bronies are.
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>>27198825
Socialist collectives under a communist system wouldn't be dealing with money, it would just be physical goods and services. Farmers produce food, that food would then be part of the commons, people take what they need and the excess is managed by community decision.
The question of how much a person would get for their work never comes into play. People who don't want to work a farm or a factory don't have to. If the workers feel compensation is necessary, they can take it up with the rest of the community.

Gridlock would be handled by agreed-upon procedure. When a council is constructed, it will formulate guidelines for itself.
For a shitty example, one guideline may be that if a consensus is not reached in X amount of time, a decision will be taken based on a majority vote. This will govern how later disagreements are handled.

That applies to worker co-ops under capitalism as well.
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>>27199138

Well if communism is so great, how come the Chinese got rid of it?
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>New episode thread
>Oh boy, hope there is some cool discussion here
>Communism discussion

Am I on /pol/ or what?
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>>27199174

So if I don't want to work, I don't have to?
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>>27198829
If by "educated to run a business" you mean "knows how to exploit as much profit from their workers as possible", then yeah. A CEO would be better at that.

>>27198895
No, they would have an organization that ran itself better than Apple.

>>27198973
"Remember, kids. Capitalism fries the brain"
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>>27199180
Depends, the party currently at power is still called the Communist Party of China
If you tell me this isn't communist, can I say that what Mao did wasn't what I decifered at all in the first place?
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>>27199196
/Somebody/ would have to work until we built robits, but you wouldn't have to unless you wanted to.
But it is pretty much a given that people want to do things. You'd most likely end up "working" doing things you want to do because you want to do them.

Socialists generally hold that there will always be people willing to work for the community, but even if that's not true that's what communal compensation is for.
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>>27199186
>Pol
>Communism discussion

Ha!
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>>27199266
China isn't communist anymore, despite the name of the ruling party. It's closer to state-capitalist now.
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Why couldn't it be an physical, emotional and sexually abusive brother?
I want her brother to be the polar opposite, not another shy little bitch.
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>really looking forward to all the new incest pics
>turns out he's a fat disgusting NEET
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>>27199341
That's right! Right now it isn't true communism
Just like it wasn't true communism when Mao ran it
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>>27199341
>closer
>implying it isn't currently the largest state-capitalist society to ever exist
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>>27199362 (you)
To be honest, there isn't even such a thing as a true communist. The ideas and their possible application have been changing a lot during the last decades
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>>27199232

>Remember, kids: Making money is intrinsically evil.

Tell that to your parents next time they go to buy your tendies.

Do you even know where your tendies come from? They don't grow on trees. They come from a lot of hard work, which it sounds like you're opposed to.

If you're against Capitalism so much, turn off your computer, turn off your internet, and stop going to the grocery store - those are ALL products of Capitalism. Until you do, you're a hypocrite. Your parents work hard and earn money to support you and keep your computer and your internet connection running while you insult that very system that keeps your belly full of processed chicken tenders from a corporate chicken farm.

YOU are the bourgeois. YOU leech off the hard work of others. YOU are the parasite.
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>>27195387
well shit
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>>27195541
>Felicia Day
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What if her brother's special talent is building robots? As silly as it is hear me out.

1. It would make him a unique counterpart to Fluttershy.
2. It would justify why he is worried about failure (his talent makes creations that could terrify or offend others who are not familiar with robots)
3. It would explain why he spends so much time at home
4. It would give him a very useful talent and make him a character we want to see more.
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What I don't get from this episode is:

How is it possible to freeload in Equestria???

They all eat grass, so they can live wherever they feel like.

If I was in Equestria, I could live doing whatever I feel like because food is not an issue. Seriously, if I didn't need to eat, I'd just drift until the day I die.

I hope they somehow manage to make the character likable, because if the character is an unlikable mess, it'll pretty much be just a strawman.
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Living with your family is bad goyim.
Take out a sub-prime mortgage.
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>>27199435
Horses could even eat strawmen!
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>>27199446

See what I mean???

Food is not a problem, so he can leave whenever he wants!
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>>27199381
Capitalist is no longer fit to organise the work with a human face
In the past, it was fit because the balance of negotiation between the workforce and the capital holders alowed both to have some leverage on each other
The plates shifted toward the capital holders during the last decades as automatisation and greater moving possibilities for people happened in the industrialized world

Work itself has never been easier, yet the workers have it harder today than ever before because the competition over jobs and markets has become incredibly harsh, and you have to grovel down in front of your boss and accept loaded bargain to keep the activity going under the threat of job loss/delocalization

And last thing, when my car or economic system is broke, I fix it
Instead of letting it kill me for the reason we had some good time together in the past
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>>27199422
This actually sounds like a good idea.
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>>27199435

>How is it possible to freeload on Earth?

>Food *literally* grows on trees
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What does Fluttershy even do for work?
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>>27199474
This

There's grass everywhere in Equestria, but the land is the property of someone else
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>>27199422
He becomes another new character that is more powerful than Twilight.
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>>27199474

that argument doesn't work on earth, because most land with edible stuff is already owned by someone else.

>>27199483

that's not true, unless you have to pay a tax to celestia for eating grass next to the roads.
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>>27199496
I was merely assuming for comedic purpose anon, don't worry
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>>27199442
This.
Jews ruin everything.
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>>27199496

Do you think they have capitalism in Equestria?
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>he has a cutie mark
>but he doesn't do anything because reasons
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>>27199534

They do, but not all land seems to be owned, and they still eat grass which is readily available everywhere.

The only real problem is winter.
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>>27199381
An unnecessary system that forces people into wage-slavery, a constant state of anxiety and depression, sexual exploitation, and suicide /is/ evil.
That's the picture you see when you open up to "evil" in the dictionary.
btw, "hard work" is different than capitalism.

>bu-bu-b-but HOW CAN YOU CRITIQUE CAPITALISM IF YOU USE THE PRODUCTS OF CAPITALISM
"How can you call for the death of the lord when you live on the land of his manor?!? what are you going to kill him with, the pitchforks and torches you made with the materials from his land!?!"
Labor built my computer. Labor constructed the internet. Labor put food on the shelves of Wal-Mart. Capitalism is a mode of labor distribution that has consistently shown itself to be a complete and utter failure.

>You are the bourgeois
NEETs are part of the lumpenproletariat, the non-working underclass. You are surprisingly close to Marx's analysis of the lumpen, though. I think it's a pretty shitty part of his theory, but it's better than nothing.

>>27199442
Fascist anti-capitalists are like the children you really want to punch in the face, except you know they aren't worth it. It would feel really good though.

>>27199534
If we go by the canon presentation of their economic system, it's either an incoherent mess or completely arbitrary.
I like to imagine that they just trade coins because they like coins. That's honestly way more in line with what we know than assuming than assuming their system is analogous to any of ours.
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>Flutterbrother is afraid od failure
>doesnt try anything
>inb4 flutter brother is a blank flank

Could ya'll handle this outcome. Too close at home?


Can ya'll handle th
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>>27199534
yes.
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>I personally aspire for a little better than having to work with the pistol of starvation on my hed for the entirety of my life
I don't see how that's any different when the community can cut you off for not living up to the standards set up.
>Surely you've read the Grapes of Wrath, it's a classic for a reason
Sadly, no. I'll put it on the list.
>>27199174
>Socialist collectives under a communist system wouldn't be dealing with money
Okay, this leads to a big problem. Goods and services have value. Money is a representation of value. How can you assess value without some kind of unit of measurement? If you want to equally distribute goods and services, you run into the problem that not everyone has the same wants and needs. Well, we could adjust distribution according to wants and needs, but then you have the problem of overproducing one good or service, and under-producing another. Now you're left with the problem of distributing labor accordingly. Now, you have to use some form of coercion to get people into the right jobs.

cont.
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>>27199479
She cares for all the local wildlife, keeping them healthy and happy. She farms chicken eggs, and she trains birds to sing for public events. Sometimes she hosts charity events as well.
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>>27199561
>Farmers produce food, that food would then be part of the commons, people take what they need and the excess is managed by community decision.
Okay, so the point communism is making is that the workers own the means of production, no? When everything is pooled together, distributed, and the surplus voted on by the community, that's still not putting giving the workers the fruits of their labor. If you work in a steel mill, and you and your coworkers vote one way, and the rest of the community votes another way, then do you really own the fruits of your labor? Why does someone who cleans the local school have just as much of a say in what to do with your product as you do? Yeah, you can argue that they're contributing to the community, but it still presents the problem that someone who knows nothing about your job is making decisions that override your will.

Or, hear me out, you could let a man assess his own skills, resources, and value, and exchange them for a commonly accepted currency that he can use to either buy goods and services he wants, or invest that capital into resources, like technology or workers for example, to expand his capability of meeting the needs of his community. And if his first idea doesn't meet the needs of the community, he can reassess things, and try again with another idea, or scale his work accordingly without the interference of anyone else.

Alright, I'd love to continue this discussion. As much as I disagree with you, I still have found this to be enlightening, and informative, and I hope you feel the same.
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>>27199534
They have whateverthefuckitalism, alowing everyone to live from whatever the fuck their quirk is while still allowing easily hateable rich people carictures to somewhat exist
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>>27199571
>Alright, I'd love to continue this discussion
But I've got work that I've been putting off and I feel like I've been coming down with something these last couple days. So, I need to be responsible, do my work, and get some rest.

Seriously though, I thought this was a nice discussion, despite me getting fierce
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>>27199571
>>27199587
Agreed, let's build a better future together sometime
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>>27199571
Other anon here, give me a bit.
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>>27195439
i know that feel bro
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>>27199422
Would he have his own robot assist similar to Angel?
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>>27199558

How dare the Apple family make money by selling their apple cider!

Quick! Someone take all their money and give it to people who didn't earn it!

>her face when
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>Applejack has a brother and a sister
>Twilight has a brother
>Rarity has a sister
>Pinkie Pie has sisters
>Rainbow Dash has Scootaloo as a "sister"

>Now Fluttershy has a brother

Can these writers stop? The one thing that made Fluttershy different and that is taken away too?
Not EVERYBODY has brothers or sisters. FFS
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>>27199635
RD has no siblings.
>having a younger peer is bad
Kill yourself.
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>>27199613
Obviously look at the pic.
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>>27199422
That would be fucking awesome.
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>>27199634
>Despite all its revenue, the Apple famly still lives in a modest house with little ornament

Either they're very bad at fund management, or they're actually giving it away
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>>27196784
>7 seconds
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>>27199704
Or maybe they're conservative people who don't waste their money on stupid shit.
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>episode will be trash
>but it will be trash with incest porn
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>>27199658
What I mean is that you're taking away the only thing that made Fluttershy unique when it comes to relatives.

You kill yourself.
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>>27199733
Hopefully they remove Fluttershit from the show next, given that the only unique thing about her now is that she's garbage.
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>>27199704
Or they store it all away in a chest or safe somewhere, kinda like those two old guys in the movie Secondhand Lions. Or at least they did until that kid convinced them to at least consider buying what those salesmen had to offer.
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>>27199704
>>27199755

>Applebloom, on her 18th birthday, gets a fucking pirate treasure of gold to fund her studies in potion making
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>>27199272

>/Somebody/ would have to work until we built robits

Who would build the robots?
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Even if the episode sucks. He could end up like Shining Armour for me. I quite like him despite hating literally every moment of the show that he and Cadence is in.

This definitely has nothing to do with the porn.
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>>27199794

I mean Sparklecest is my favourite type of porn from this show. This has so much potential.
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>>27199791

The proletariat, of course.
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>>27195387
Ha!

I knew Fluttershy and her family was filled with degenerates.
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>>27196344
We dont know if her brother is older than her though.
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>>27199272

How would "communal compensation" work if people refuse to work? There would be nothing to compensate them with. Wouldn't there have to be a system to ensure that people work for the continued existence of the community?

In Communism, you can't have a bunch of lazy faggots who choose not to work, or the whole community will starve! They have to work, or they'll starve!

How is that different from Capitalism?
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>>27199817

But the robots are there so the proletariat doesn't have to work. Building robots is work.
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>>27199903

Not if we turn robot building into a religion.
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>>27199908

But religion is the enemy of the state!
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>>27195887
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>>27195387
They probably won't have the guts to make him ugly or repulsive, so instead of a 2010's neck-bearded loser he'll be a "cool" 90's-era slacker.
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>>27199922

Not if we make the state into a god
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>people already writing off the episode.
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>>27195387
>Flutterbrother isn't a pretty cool guy, kind of like Pigeon Man but less disgusted with humanity/ponies

Well I'll go fuck myself.
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Will Discord be in the episode?
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>>27195387
Im quite looking forward to this one
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Really hope hes equestrias version of a stoner
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27199999?
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>>27199951

inb4 flutterbrother and discord become friends at the end of the episode
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>>27199998
God fucking damn it
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>>27199924
Top kek
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>>27199999
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>>27198847

>but what about the proletariat liberty?

What's sad is that his FNAF video got 10 times more views than this one.
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>>27199422
Wouldn't that make him an OP ally to Equestria?...

Actually make it happen.
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>>27199561
The most popular socialist understanding of value is the Labor Theory of Value. That basically states that the value of a product is not dependent on its usefulness, or "use-value" if you want to look that idea up, as it is understood to be under capitalism, but is instead dependent on how much labor it took to create.
Some socialists will advocate some sort of labor voucher instead of a capitalist currency. It's basically just a system of currency/tokens that say "this is how much work I've done" instead of "this is how much money I've made".
I kind of think it's arbitrary, but if you want a unit of value that's the big one.

When it comes to distribution, it's worth defining what we want equally distributed universally.
Communists want an equal distribution of /needed/ goods and services, while also allowing complete access to anything unneeded. So it isn't that a care package of the community's chosen productions are regularly left at your doorstep, regardless of whether you need them or not.
You will always have your /individual/ needs supplied, and anything besides that can be acquired through the commons.
Those needs are not uniform, obviously. A quadriplegic person would have a much different set of necessary products than a person without a disability.

Overproduction is stored within the commons, underproduction is managed by contacting other communities. This is one reason why the system would need to be global. These are not isolated communes living off of whatever they create on their own, they would operate within a world-wide network of similarly structured organizations. Overproduction, the commons, would be shared as widely as possible/necessary.
The specifics of that system are too complicated to get into now, but it's something to keep in mind. A drought isn't necessarily going to make one of these organizations unsustainable, for example.

cont.
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>>27200239
When it comes to work that needs to be done, but no one wants to do, it would be easy enough for a community to offer incentives as a way to get stuff done.

>>27199571
The socialist part is the worker ownership over the MoP, socialism is just the way work is handled within communism.
While workers do have control over the means of production, they do not necessarily have total ownership over the things they produce.
Under communism, there are two kinds of property: collective property and personal property.
Collective property is the stuff owned by the whole, what goes into the commons and what is distributed communally.
Personal property is the stuff owned and used by an individual, basically.

Collective property is pretty easy to get, but personal property can trip people up. Under capitalism, private property and personal property are usually equated and that messes up the discussion real bad.
Private property is a negative relationship between two people, one "against" the other. The land a person claims or the machines a company has bought are not private because of their direct relationship to the their owners, but instead by their /lack/ of relationship with other entities.

"My land is /my/ land because /you/ can't farm on it without my permission", right?
(I use those examples because socialists generally limit what it means to be "private" to the MoP and capital objects).

Personal property, on the other hand, is stuff that a person has a positive relation towards. Your computer, your photos, your car, your DVDs, etc. These are yours because you're using them for yourself. You don't own them in the sense that nobody else has them, but in the sense that they have value to you, they do something for you.
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>>27200252
Back to the workers.
People involved with the production of goods necessary to the community do not have ownership over those goods. They belong to the collective.
They still have control of the means of production, just not personal control over the product.
That is not to say that no workers ever have control over their products. A group of people who are into carving wooden statues from tree trunks /do/ have ownership over their creations. That is their personal property.

There's just a bit of difference between production for the whole and production for the individual. That difference is complicated in that the individual is a major part of the whole, but you get the point.

On your example. If the necessary material exists to innovate, and the innovation would help the community, why wouldn't it be pursued anyway?
I'm guessing the interference part has to do with the lack of control over the products, right? Do you mind explaining that in relation to the arguments I made about that above?

Yeah, I'm really loving this. I've been a part of a few threads that turned into /mlpol/, and this is by far the best conversation I've had out of any of them.
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>>27199883
Why would they actively refuse to work? What reason would they have?

I mean, you can compensate people without just giving them a ton of shit. There's such things as positive emotions that are kind of important, and they tend to be just as good motivators as material wealth. People need a lot more than food to be happy, and people really like being happy.

Very few people would /have/ to work. You could have 90% of the population smoking weed in their basement their entire lives and still have a sustainable economy. Personally, I think less than 10% of the population could ever live like that. Most people feel a natural need to do things, we go stir-crazy if we don't.
To say that this kind of system would be anything like the wage-slavery we live under now is, I think, a really, really bad comparison.
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>>27195474
Sounds fun
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>>27195644
>>27195670
Don't forget that Maud was retroactively created in S4.
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>>27195491
projecting
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>>27195387
>Why would they actively refuse to work? What reason would they have?
Try laziness. Most people need incentive to do stuff for others most of the time. Every lab rat needs a piece of cheese to get it to run the scientist's maze, after all. Most of us would rather browse the Internet and play games all day than spend 8 hours doing work. The only reason we do go to work is to get that dosh to support ourselves and chosen lifestyles.
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>>27196011
i'm willing to bet money they actually put something like that in the episode
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>>27200450
Even if this wasn't shitty capitalist propaganda
>You could have 90% of the population smoking weed in their basement their entire lives and still have a sustainable economy
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>>27200468
I imagine her animals will try to help by sending him subliminal messages randomly after Fluttershy complains to them about how she wants to kick him out, but they're family
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>>27195676
there is a difference between people i happen to know and my BEST FRIENDS(or these creepy basement dwellers that spy on us every week)
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Haven't visited board in a while. Decided to check out what all the fuss is about. Didn't know I was visiting My Little /Pol/!
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>>27200489

Why can't you have 100% of the population smoking weed in their basement their entire lives?
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>>27200489
Yeah I'm highly skeptical of those projections. If that were the case then how come conditions were so shitty in the USSR, the PRC under Mao's rule, Cuba to the point that people would build makeshift boats out of household items just to get out of that shitty place, not to mention North Korea where to this day the whole country is starving to the point that even the soldiers look thin and anorexic?
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>>27200328

>Why would they refuse to work?

I don't know, why do you?
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>>27200606
Because there are things that need to be done.

Like killing this thread.
It's done.
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jesus fuck the whole thread you faggots where at it with your politics
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>>27200489

The idea that people don't break their backs for nothing is "shitty capitalist propaganda"?

Do YOU work for free?

Oh, that's right, you don't. You just live off of handouts from your mommy and daddy. You don't need to live in the real world.
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>>27200622
Because centralized economies are shit, duh.
There's no part of socialist theory that necessitates a centralized economy, that's just a shitty interpretation of Marx only taken seriously by Marxist-Leninists and actual Stalinists.

>>27200625
Because I'm prone to emotional breakdowns, I can't deal with the constant stress and anxiety of work as well as most people, and I'm extremely worried that if I force myself to get a 9-5 job again I'll shoot myself within a year.

I don't feel like dying anytime soon, so excuse me for avoiding it.
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>communism has never been tried
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>>27200699
The survival of the you, your family, and your community is the opposite of nothing.
Get over yourself.
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>>27200734
>mommy work is scary
>pls dont let me work
Might as well eek out at least one productive year in your life before you kill yourself.
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>>27200747
China is actually still governed by the Communist Party

And they prety much own america's debt
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>>27200747
You're going to need more than a list of a few Marxist-Leninist regimes to start making claims about "communism being tried", bro.

>>27200751
Yeah, yeah. You're really tearing my heart up or whatever.
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>>27200734

Find something you like to do.

I haven't though, I hate my job. However, I'm gonna start trying to learn electronics,as it seems I'm starting to like that aspect of my job.

keep trying to find a job, maybe you'll find one with an aspect of it that you like.
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>>27200770
I wouldn't be surprised since you apparently can't handle the stress of stacking boxes.
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>>27200734

>Because I'm prone to emotional breakdowns

THE TRUTH FINALLY COMES OUT

ANON REFUSES TO WORK BECAUSE OF HIS "EMOTIONS"

BECAUSE

OF

HIS

EMOTIONS
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>>27200748

So now we're back to "You work or you die." What a great system.
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>>27200883
Actually, we're supressed the whole "you have to compete everytime with everyone else to actually get the job"
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>>27200734
Dude I have social anxiety brought about by stress induced epilepsy, and I fucking work. You know why, I like fucking money, I like to make it rain! Some times you gotta nut up and shut up.
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>>27200796
Oh please, don't even try to pull that.
If you've ever worked a job for more than a day, you know the deal.

>>27200824
>"emotions"
>le group laugh
Uh huh.

I'm glad that you don't have to experience emotional or mental issues, but I'm not so glad that it makes you feel comfortable deriding those that do.
Does it make you feel big to undercut people less fortunate than you, or what? I mean, that's the kind of psychopathic shit I would expect from ab unapologetic capitalist.
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What if he actually doesnt have a cutie mark?
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>>27200734

Have you seen a mental health specialist about these breakdowns? I suffered for years with my mental disability before I finally got help, and now I'm working to support myself, living independently (which feels great) and doing what I truly love (writing) in my free time.
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>>27200910
Then this would be a CMC episode
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>>27200926
oh true.

I wonder if they'll have an episode with a non CM adult.
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>>27200883
Yeah, but that's just a fact of our material reality. Until robots take over production, it's necessary, a communist system would minimize the impact of that necessity to it's least intrusive form.

I mean, unless you're advocating just shooting ourselves en masse, I don't see how "the world isn't naturally just" works as an argument.
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>>27200902
My issues do not include social anxiety brought about by stress induced epilepsy, so I'm not sure how much your experience says about mine.

>>27200923
Yeah, I have.
I do live independently, though. For some reason everyone just assumed that I'm living with my parents but I have a pretty stable income on benefits that takes care of my necessities.
I'm doing better now than I have in my whole life, don't worry about it.
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>>27200907

Oh, I actually have ADHD and Obsessive Compulsive Anxiety Disorder, which in high school made me depressed to the point of being suicidal, but all of my mental health problems and personal emotional struggles have never kept me from working. Working is just something you have to do. Sure, it sucks, sure I wish I could just have everything handed to me for free, but I accept that that's neither possible nor moral. I can't be a burden on my parents - they make little enough money as it is, and it's absolutely unfair of me to expect them to give what little money they have to their young, healthy son who refuses to work because of his "emotional problems". So I just suffered through it until I got the proper medicine for my conditions. And you know what? It's immensely rewarding to eat a sandwich and know that YOU paid for it with YOUR own sweat, blood and tears. It is immensely satisfying knowing that the keyboard I am typing on right now was earned with my own hard work.
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>>27200985

>I have a pretty stable income on benefits

Oh. Didn't know that. I've never qualified for any sort of government assistance, no matter how unemployed or starving or disabled I was. And I've tried.
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>>27200907
Stress is normal at work. Everyone deals with it. I deal with it.

If you can't handle simple commands and simple labor, you have no use to society.
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>>27200989
>healthy
Yeah, that's the kicker.
A person with ADHD and OCD can be healthy enough to work, I am not healthy enough to work. My emotional issues are not just feelings, they actively affect my physical life on a day to day basis. Even if I was able to get into a job, which is already difficult enough for healthy people, I would end having spent more time looking for it than actually working there.

Trust me, stranger. I know my situation better than you.
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>>27201063

>my mental problem is more speshul than urs

Grow the fuck up.
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>>27201025

Exactly.

I advocate that this anon be euthanized, as he is nothing but a useless burden on society.
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>>27201100
Remind yourself that this guy may draw the next piece of free porn you'll mastubate to
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>>27201015
It's the absolute worst, and completely ridiculous.
How they expect people with mental disabilities to go through the process is beyond me. If I didn't have family to help me with it I would probably be homeless or in an asylum by now. It's a disgrace.

>>27201025
Healthy mindset.

>>27201079
>some diseases are more severe than others
>grow the fuck up
lolk
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Alright everyone discussing communism in this thread heres the truth.
Capitalism better encourages larger amounts of production ensuring a higher quality of life for the average individual. Communism however doesn't as no one would want to create a system where more was produced.
In capitalism you get a smaller piece of a larger pie.
In Communism you get a Piece smaller than in capitalism of a much smaller pie
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>>27201112
>useless shit
>work is too "stressful"
>implying he can do anything with his life
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Berniefags on suicide watch. Sanders campaign completely BTFO today, so he's going to concede. His agenda would never have worked, anyhow.

2016 General Election will be Hillary the corporate shill VS Trump the Reality TV show.
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>>27200770

>Yeah, yeah. You're really tearing my heart up or whatever.

You're not acting very emotionally unstable. In fact, we've been constantly insulting you all day, but you seem to have a thick enough skin to keep replying and remain coherent. Awfully suspicious, if you ask me.
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>>27201131
Please, there's not doing a salryman's work, and there's doing literally nothing all day
Since he hasn't become an australian-tier shitposter yet, I'm sure he does something else of his day that gave him some skill since he could do it in a calm environnement.

>>27201149
Please vote Trump, at least when amirica rides to hell it will be shiny and chrome
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>>27200883

That's it in a nutshell. If you dint work, the world has no need of you, so you should die, and decrease the surplus population.
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>>27201163
Oh my god! This guy can not be offended by internet comment on a chinese imageboard about cartoon coloured horses!
He's even better than me!
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>>27201163
Only an idiotic government would believe "emotional issues" with stress is a real mental problem. He's probably just been baiting us.
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>>27201149
President Shrillary. Shit
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Face it wage slaves: you are chattel. No one is coming to save you, because ther is no profit in it. No one gives a shit what your problems are. In fact, no one gives a shi whether you live, die, or grow mushrooms on your ass. If you don't want to work and enrich someone else so you can keep a roof over your head, food on your table, and clothes on your back, then just kill yourself. Your only alternative is to live in a cardboard box under a bridge, and shop for food and clothing at your local dumpster. You are garbage, so shut up, do as you're told, and at least be comfortable. Jesus, how fucking hard can it be to figure out? Buy into the system or die. It is useless to resist.
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>>27201176

He says he's so prone to "emotional breakdowns" that he can't hold down a job. How does stacking boxes make you break down into tears but being called a useless, worthless pathetic piece of shit over and over again doesn't?
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>>27201224

Don't insult the wage slaves who feed you, parasite.
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>>27201225
He's fragile, not dumb

Dumb, that's you
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>>27201189

American government is as idiotic as it gets, dude.

"What I need a job for? Not when whitey gives me a check every month."

Your taxes at work.
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>>27195387
I bet he's gonna be a blank flank
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>>27201131
>>27201164
Eh, I do shitty edit work in my free time. I'm trying to learn how to rotoscope efficiently, but if you want some porn done up like pic related I can do that.

>>27201163
see
>>27201176
It's hard to get emotionally invested to whats on my browser when it's on this domain.

>>27201225
Well, because I know you, a faceless stranger who can only talk to me in text, are wrong. It's harder to remember that when it's coming from your own head.

>>27201224
/pol/'s satire of NEET's is honestly their best work. It's the only thing they seem to actually understand enough to parody effectively.
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>>27201224

>he calls us "wage slaves" while he rubs his government welfare checks, living off our taxpayer dollars

DEATH TO THE BOURGEOIS

DEATH TO THE PARASITES

WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!
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>>27201269
If the one on the left is yours, congratulations!
You are only somewhat useless.

If the one on the right is yours, stop.
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>>27201306
>Not liking the pone on mental-o-vision

Quite literally normal human taste
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>>27201274
IWW are pretty rad sometimes.

>>27201306
>>27201334
Yeah, left is mine. Don't know what the other person was going for.
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I had sex
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>>27195516
>season 6
>parents
Holy shit, writers, now you're trying to say Fluttershy was BORN?
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>>27195541
>I do hope we get a glimpse of their parents, would be another bingo.
...In what sense? Is a bingo not a straight line anymore?
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>>27199551
Holy fuck that's dark.

"I can't go out there Fluttershy! I'm a grown colt and I still have no cutie mark! Everyone has something that makes them special... but I am literally good at nothing."
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>>27195632
Fluttershy should implement a good brother points system to get that neet on the right track.

25 gbp: hoofjob
50 gbp: blowjob + above
75 gpb: vaginal sex + above
100 gbp: anal sex +above
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>>27201585
>I'm a grown colt
>grown colt
>not grown stallion
"Grown colt" is basically "manchild"
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>>27200252
Do yourself a favor, watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY
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>>27195854
>>27196182
> those pics
Are you 14? I'm seriously not sure. The communist manifesto is not an impressive thing to have read. It's less than a dozen pages long at an 8th grade reading level. It had to be that short, otherwise the people at whom it was targeted wouldn't have bothered to read it.

You are a perfect example of why most communists are insufferable to talk to. Your whole style of argument relies on insisting that we "just don't understand, maaaan". You then avoid making any testable assertions, and barf up half a table of contents on a bunch of nobodies to try to sound educated.
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