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Kasumi, not Takeru, is the chosen one.
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So you can apparently fuck in the mobile game? How's that work? Are your chances to get it on gacha based?

That'd be a really good way of milking horny nerds, I'm surprised type moon hasn't gone that direction.
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>>15838234
So I just finished Ayamine's route in Extra. I gotta ask, am I the only one who didn't loathe Extraverse Sagiri? I think he was kind of a dick, certainly, given the whole drama with Kei's mom and everything, but he seemed apologetic and understanding of Takeru's arguments, which won him a few points in my book. It wouldn't have been much of a "love triangle" if Sagiri had been entirely incorrigible, would it?
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>>15838244
I hate the extra Sagiri, he was given all the opportunities to succeed yet he's willing to throw with away for Kei.
What do you think will happen if he burned bridges. Wasted Kei's mom sacrifice.

Sagiri on alternative did nothing wrong. Killed classrep's dad cause of corruption. If anyone is to blame it should be that Sweden refugee who got brainwashed into shooting at them. Sagiri would have just met some prison time and probably a suicide role in Operation Ouka, everyone in the main cast cept for sumika might have survived with his mech piloting talent.
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>>15838234
I like kasumi
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>>15838250
>Everyone in the main cast cept for sumika might have survived with his mech piloting talent.
Nah, maybe another TSF or two, definetly not everyone.

inb4 the Sumika cucks, I'm waiting for you SOBs
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>>15838250
>What do you think will happen if he burned bridges. Wasted Kei's mom sacrifice.

Oooh, yeah, good point. And the other thing that occurred to me, Sagiri was a few years older than Ayamine, right? She's still in high school while he was already out of med school. If you ask me a doctor's daughter would be better for him anyways given his position, while a guy like Takeru better for Ayamine given that they have a lot more in common and are actually peers, so it seems.
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Its a proven fact that Meiya loves penis.
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>>15838369
Show me data
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>>15838382
Blue board. Cant show obvious evidence of her being lewd slut.
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>>15838388
Make some graphs, present statistics, write a thesis
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>>15838369
Yes. Takeru's penis. They fuck every time they get a break. It's cute.
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>>15838421
Please dont remind me
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>>15838439
Yuuko's solution to this is both super fucked up and hilariously in line with all versions of herself.

At least Meiya didn't get gangbanged and Takeru got a threesome.
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>>15838421
Pretty sure Meiya loves my penis.
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>>15838544
What are you talking about? YOU love my penis.
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>>15838588
Foreskins unite!
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>>15838489
at least I do not argue, when Yuuko say this.
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>>15838439
is this a doujin?
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>>15839003
Nah m8, forst thing you see in Extra
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I don't like where this discussion is going over here.
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Isn't this just body horror and porn?
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>>15839410
Nothing wrong with a girl loving penis, as long as it's pure.
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>>15839410
Meiya being in love with Takeru and them having sex as often as they can when they finally get some alone time? That's the purest thing you can have.

Look how happy she is man. Fucking adorable.
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>>15839498
I don't have a picture of it, but the face she makes when she gives Takeru the side eye is kinda sexy too.
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Mitsuki is my dog.
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>>15839560
Still the best look she gives Takeru.
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Picked up the steam version of the game and now im kicking my self for it. I figured it would be the all ages version. What I didn't know was that the 18+ Patch I was going to have to pay for it and on top of that it's still censored with mosaic. Please some one tell me there is a patch to get all the 18+ shit uncensored?
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>>15840248
Getting people to redraw h-scenes wasn't part of the kickstarter ;^)
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>>15840248
Avex will never release the uncensored version of those CGs.
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>>15840289
More like Degica would never ask for them anyway.
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Do you really want to see incredibly badly drawn roasties that badly?
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>>15840307
>r9k shitters on /m/
So that's why these threads suck.
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>>15840248
I backed on Kickstarter and got the "directors cut" patch, but fug, I didn't know there was a de-mosaiced version. Damn :(
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>>15840405
>I didn't know there was a de-mosaiced version
There isn't
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>>15840455
Oh, really? Ah, well. I don't like those mosaics, but I suppose there's nothing to be done about them.

Another random question, but they got new VAs for the English parts of Alternative, right? I started it a little while ago and noticed the voiceover at the beginning was in more or less proper English. The guys sounded kinda familiar...they didn't just get randos to do the voices, did they? Although I will admit it's just not the same without "HOOMEN...BREHNS!"
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>>15840603
>The guys sounded kinda familiar

http://georgeledoux.com/newpage/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Lee_Connors
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>>15840619
>http://georgeledoux.com/newpage/
Oh cool, thanks anon! Fug, some Mechwarrior games and Neverwinter? No wonder I thought I'd heard him before! That's pretty nifty.
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>>15838250
>Don't blame the guy who deliberately acted on his own volition to murder legitimate heads of state by his own hand and do poorly thought out retarded things that just further fuck up the entire country.
>Put the blame on an innocent mindraped girl who literally had no say over her actions.

Luvfag logic at large.
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>>15840674
>Put the blame on an innocent mindraped girl who literally had no say over her actions.

Yeah, I'm just at the part where Irma is making friends with Tama...even though I've read this before, it's really hitting my feels ;_; I wonder, though, when Alternative was released they hadn't come up with that stuff about the Master, right? Cause now when I'm replaying it, the first thing that comes to mind when I hear of Irma being brainwashed was one of the Master's mind control schemes, but at this point it was one of the other factions in the US government that got to her, wasn't it?
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>>15840774
>I wonder, though, when Alternative was released they hadn't come up with that stuff about the Master, right? Cause now when I'm replaying it, the first thing that comes to mind when I hear of Irma being brainwashed was one of the Master's mind control schemes, but at this point it was one of the other factions in the US government that got to her, wasn't it?
There's a pretty big difference between the Master's schemes and CIA's schemes.
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Speaking of schemes
What's Israel role in the beta-verse.
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>>15841012
establishing MSF
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>>15840979
Yeah, true that. Just that brainwashing/mind control is a pretty Master-y thing to do. But anyways, I gotta say the Military Police have a sharp sense of style. This guy's intimidating!
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>>15841064
>Just that brainwashing/mind control is a pretty Master-y thing to do.
You're comparing the Master to an organization notorious for programs like MK-Ultra.
>MPs
>intimidating
Only if you don't have money for parking tickets.
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What do we know about the NACF X-1 used on the Moon
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>>15841276

Wasn't a wonder weapon.
Still good enough to get it selected for further development. To be fair, everything else used on the moon was shit.
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https://curiouscat.me/enjoievan/post/199270575
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Since Steam version is all ages version
How did Sumika go into autistic mode in Sadogashima without those sex scenes and the first meeting between Valkyries and Sumika with all those supposed flashbacks?
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>>15841629
The sex scenes are implied, just not explicitly described or pictured.
Even Quantum Computer Fixing is clear to be sex.
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>>15841629
I'm literally right on this fucking scene at the moment. I didn't think it'd be so bad since I played through it before, but god damn, it hurts even more now...
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>>15842003
>xD
Back to r*ddit.
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>>15842003
Go away newfag.
That is common way to refer to the scene.

>>15842005
Also this.
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>>15842005
>>15842007
Having a bad day?
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>>15842013
Not since you showed up
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>>15838234
<i>cunts</i>
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>>15842013
>>15842024
>r9k and reddit posts in /m/uv-luv threads
I don't get it, what did we do to attract this filth?
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>>15842026
you kickstarted a high profile release on a normalfag platform
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>>15842028
More like asshurt /a/ shitters falseflagging after they lost their threads.
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>>15842074
>threads are deleted due to general OPs
>this means they lost their threads
Are you sure that's the position you want to maintain? No one has to even browse /a/ regularly to understand you're scraping the bottom of the barrel to avoid the issue of these threads being garbage.

At least blame /a/ for something that would actually make sense, like SM posting.

Gunlord for example is an incredibly dumb newfag who posts dumb shit all the time and I don't see him posting on /a/; does the shit he say result from asshurt /a/ shitters falseflagging?
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Is Yui really worth 22.5k yen equivalent?
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>>15842115
She's good for a hotglue, not much else.
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>>15842115
>bunnysuit/swimsuit figures
Not worth it, unless its your waifu. I'd most likely get something like that if Meiya ever gets one, but for anyone else and even for her I would still prefer fortified suits or uniforms.
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>>15842125
write a letter to kouki asking for fortified suits/uniforms
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boi pucci when?
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>>15842131
when you go back to ribbit
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>>15842129
I doubt that he cares much what some foreigner wants. I guess japanese fans prefer swimsuits over fortified suits and such.
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>>15842082
I'd hardly deny being dumb, but cut me a little a slack, it's been ages since I played the original trilogy and my memory got some stuff mixed up with the Muv-Luv stuff I've seen more recently ;_;
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>>15842149
what do you think the kickstarter was about? if you can show there's interest either in the west or the east or even both for specific figures, then show him
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>>15842155
Are you suffering from mild alzheimers? I consumed all the media years ago too and you don't see Anonymous posting about whether or not the Master is responsible for sabotaging Walken's TSF. It's less about the time it's been and more about how can you forget the details of one of the most memorable arcs in Muv Luv? The coup arc is way more impacting than 'waaaah muh refugees aint gettin food.'

If I wanted to get to the crux of the topic I'd ask why do you even trip in these threads? You don't actually provide anything worthwhile, and if you did, I must've missed it and people must've stopped talking about it really quick. Where's your KNG tier posts? Your TESG tier posts?
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>>15842155
Why does Haruka suck at defending herself against those slaps
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>>15842181
Not anything specific, but I've always had a little bit of trouble keeping details straight sometimes, and get 'em mixed up quite a bit. It annoys me too, and I try to make an effort to keep it from happening, but after a long time I tend to slip up. And you're right, I should contribute more--as I often say, I trip out of habit more than anything else; I've helped out /m/subs with some of their projects but nothing about muv-luv specifically. As you could probably tell, I'm not much of a translator (most of what I helped /m/subs with is timing and acquiring raws), but if there's something else I could do, even if only a minor thing like typesetting or helping an actual translator get his hands on some material, I'd be happy to give it a shot. Polite sage for blog/me being dumb again.
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>>15842183
Why would you slap a hospitalized girl?
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>>15842125
>swimsuit figures
Worth it, if Ayamine.
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>>15842125
I just want extra-Sumika fig whether in uniform, casual or bikini.
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>>15842241
because she is a bitch and act like she doesn't know what up.
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>>15842330
Her armpit looks funky
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>>15842337
She's getting fat.
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>>15842344
Tub o' lard
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>>15842344
>>15842348
She's just listening to Takeru's advice since he's a thiccfag. Easily scoring points with his taste.
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Why so concern about individual sex toys?
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>>15842356
~40% of Takeru has shit taste anyways
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>>15842125
Hopefully she gets more official figures and art as times goes on, but yea. Fortified suits would be preferred.
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>vita died years ago
>we're now waiting on a muvluv vita release instead of actual useful things like physical goods
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>>15842401
Is the muvluv kickstarter the cause of takemis scarcity?
Fuck i just want Meiya, Mana and Kurogane takemis but all I got right now are those SM mechs minus Beatrix.
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>>15842417

>Manasushi and Kurosushi

The KS offers the 1.5 ver of the Meiyasushi kit, but I highly doubt they've got anything to do with the supply, or lack of, of the other two types.

Given how Kurosushi is the only Type-00C kit in existence, its demand must be sky-high.

Just a heads-up; it's also marked as a limited-production kit on the Koto official site, so it's certainly going to be harder to find than the others.
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>>15842417
You can get all 3 on mandarake, although they are not the version 1.5 kits.

https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1026562822&ref=list

https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1025714299&ref=list

https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1063011468&ref=list
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>>15842473
So these are 2nd hand right?
Where were this 3 months ago, fuck. Im still mad.
What's the difference between the old version vs 1.5?
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>>15842481
Yep, 2nd hand, unassembled and unlikely to have been opened. The 1.5 has improved hip, knee and elbow joints, and a few other accessories. They also have a bigger box. I don't think the older models are still being made, as there is a 1.5 version of the red and yellow takemis, and I wouldn't know when or if they 1.5's will get a re-run.

There is a 1.5 00R, but it is from the Fukuoka store and not Sahra like the ones I linked before. https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1020983547&ref=list

There is also a Yui machine at Sahra if you are interested.
https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1024695892&ref=list
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>>15842481

1.5 improvements are mainly in the joints (eg. increased overall flexibility, elbows can now aim backwards reflecting the TSF's canonical capabilities) and some minor detailing in the accessories (eg. assault cannon magazines are now removable).

And as far as I know, while you can find the 1.5vers of the Type-00s elsewhere, no Type-00C 1.5ver has ever been produced.
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Congrats to this nip who achieved a Meiya ending.
Wonder what his Sumika is like.
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Does anyone have a mega for the 18+ patch for the steam version?
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>>15842552
That man is living the dream.
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>>15842562
https://mega.nz/#!UhVzxDja!ZZdcT9WV2uLzNV8GlfxYGl8Ak_hgsVvDooNRw-2T3Eo
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>>15842552
>giving up your privilege for a man
Are women really this stupid?
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>>15842591
Blame the ultraconservative Imperial Household Agency and some of the occupation era laws for that. It is required for women to leave the Imperial family if they marry a commoner. This has resulted in the imperial family thinning out since the end of WWII. There was nearly a crisis a few years ago because there was no male heir.
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>cleared the shop
>only got 5 cards to drop, still missing one Lise to rise her skill to 21
Goddammit, I knew that would happen.
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>>15842635
There still is depending on who gains the throne.
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>>15842660
Still a few days left you might be able to get it, but yeah the drop rates are rough.
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How the hell do I fix Runtime Error (1006)? I already tried the vc_redidt repair and I still get the same error.
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Boys, I got the Oxysomething book. Will post screen shots soon.
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>>15842849
You mean scans? I got exogularity coming in mail too with those other C92 items, but I don't have the means to scan the book contents.
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>>15842849
>>15842974
Wasn't exogularity fully scanned already?
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>>15842984
I only saw these random photos someone took from their book.
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>>15841064
I'm glad they learned. 2006 was kind MP style was kind of lame.
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So what is my favorite girl up to these days in Muv luv?
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>>15843093
How can the Betaverse afford to produce such cute underwear?
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>>15843095
Same reason they can produce those cadet uniforms.
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>>15843100
To make sure people still reproduce in a forsaken world?
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>>15843174
Then why waste it on world's most expensive fleshlight?
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Mana deserves love and days off.
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>>15840619
>George Ledoux
Oh hey, I know him! That's...a little weird to think of. Guy is a noted Goon, so it feels strange he'd have anything to do with something as *anime* as Muv Luv. Guess I keep forgetting most of them don't actually hate it as much as they keep telling each other they do.

I first knew him from (the sorely underrated) Freedom Force though. He seems a pretty cool dude.
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>visit pixiv in hopes for new cute meiya art i might have missed
>its mostly just lewd shit
Why is it so hard to draw her being cute more often?
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>>15842552
>wonder what his sumika is like
Probably some ugly typical jap who's so forgettable that not even paparazzi would care to cover her.
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>>15842635
If both sisters turned out to be such semen demons, I wonder what the mom looked like.
>>15843283
Meiya needs more cute, but what can you do? At least there isn't a lot of shitty NTR. Happy Meiya is best Meiya.
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>>15842799
Still trying to figure this out.
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>>15843021
Those symbols on the lower part of the pilot suit always remind me of those womb curses girls get put under in hentai games.
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>>15843520
I'm sure that's toooootally coincidental
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>>15842799
>>15843459
Are you talking about Alternative? Official backer release might have some bugs left in it. But I can't really help you with this stuff sadly.
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>>15843283
We'll get more stuff on 12/16 anyways.
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>>15842579

But Princess Mako has no air intakes
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>>15843595
No just the original one. Idk what the hell is wrong with it so i just gave up. Maybe ill have better luck with a pirated version.
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>>15844449
Or you could just wait two weeks.
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>>15844449
Installation error, it says to re-install.
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>>15844485
What happens in two weeks?

>>15844488
I've did that three times.
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>>15843520

They're button controls to facilitate emergency venting of the suit's waste storage containers. Vent front container, back container, both at once.
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>>15844662
>What happens in two weeks?
Alternative is released on Steam.
Right now, it is only for Kickstarter backers.
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>>15844449
Have you checked bug thread in Steam forums? There might be some solution for that. And might some locale settings cause that too?
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Is there a decent SF CG collection anywhere? Mainly interested in the TEs and TDAs.
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>>15842552
>commoner
Does Japan still have nobility system?
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Managed to grab this bad boy for 1200 yen today. Good deal?
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>>15845042
For that price its okay, but I'd recommend Volks A3 models over Revoltechs. They are more expensive, but better quality.
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>>15845042
>>15845095
But Volk's articulation is shit compared to Revoltech. Trust me I know
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>>15842660
>>15842750
Finally got a 6th rainbow chest to drop and it was the missing Lise.
So I got 2 Lise, 2 Beatrix and 2 Yuna out of 6 chests. Was I incredibly lucky or they made it so the 6 first chests you get are perfectly split?
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>>15845646
No thats lucky, some people get some pretty one sided ratios nice job tho
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>>15838234
I just finished watching Muv Luv Alternative Total Eclipse on Crunchyroll. is there a second season??? can someone explain to me what the g material is??? at the end of the season the guys in the f-22 said that if the Beta are pushed out of the USSR then the Soviets will have all the g-material. Also who was the red head leader of the Christian Allegiance?? and who was the german guy at the end who got killed by the Scarlet Twins when they went full MK Ultra? I just heard about this serious and it is so interesting
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>>15845684
>watching anime before reading the VNs
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>>15845684
>Crunchyroll
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>>15845692
senpai what is a VN?
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>>15845744
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>>15845757
so what happens to the characters in total eclipse??? does the girl come back from japan and stays with Bridges in Alaska???
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>>15845765
>so what happens to the characters in total eclipse???
Who the fuck cares?
SM is shit.
Read the VNs.
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>>15845765
GHOST BLOWJOBS.
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>>15845769
I mean TE is shit.

..
both are shit.
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>>15845780
TE and SM are great. You are shit.
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>>15845804
Do they have Sumika?
No?
Then shut up!
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>>15845684
Second season doesn't exist because the rest of the story is mostly political stuff which wouldn't be interesting in anime form, I guess (Russia trying to sabotage the Japan/USA project so USA joints with them instead, some American faction trying to use Yuuya to sabotage the Russian/Sanderk faction by helping him kidnap Cryska so they could get their hand on that new mecha without needing to deal with Japan anymore, other Russian faction sided with Latrova opposing Sanderk, etc). The epilogue would be awesome as an OVA though.
g material is stuff made by the betas, it allows for making very powerful bombs. In another story, humans use so many of these bombs that the axis of the planet shifts and pretty much everything is destroyed.
Red head is Theodor from the anime schwarzesmarken, it happens before total eclipse. I think you can see that anime too.
Forgot about that Russian guy, Are you talking about Christopher? He was just a mercenary or something.
>>15845744
It's short for visual novel, a media between the book and the movie. You have a site that lists them, vndb.org
>>15845765
Yui gets shot by a sniper but survives thanks to her father's watch that she kept in her breast pocket.
Yuuya falls in love with Cryska then learns she's just some disposable clone used for Inia so he kidnaps her to spend the time she has left together (with Inia watching them fuck).
After Cryska dies, Latrova recruits him and Inia for their faction.
And it finishes with the big battle of all of mankind against the betas to help Takeru kill the beta boss (story told in the vn muv luv alternative) saw from Yuuya's pov on the Russian front.
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>>15845882
After all of this, Yuuya marries Yui and they have happy family with lots of kids until both die of old age.
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>>15845915
>After all of this, Yuuya marries Yui and they have happy family with lots of kids until both die of old age.
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wtf is going on?
why are arch enemies being friendly?
why are they discussing clothes and why is the stasi borrowing clothes from Sensei rather than sitting in a jail cell?
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I want to run my fingers through Marimo's hair.
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>>15846207
Because.
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>>15846207
I shouldn't be surprised that those three would get along.
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>>15845882
I thought Latrova and all her soldiers died in Russia. the Russian UN guy sends Inia and Cryska to kill her so they can become heroes of the USSR
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>>15846391
>I thought Latrova and all her soldiers died in Russia. the Russian UN guy sends Inia and Cryska to kill her so they can become heroes of the USSR
This is like years old spoilers.
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>>15846439
so she survived but all her soldiers died destroying the laser beta?
I just found out about muv luv but reading the muv luv wiki is so confusing. there are 1 million side stories

I read that the g bombs fuck the world so half the ocean is gone and America begins to fight the rest of the human nations? I also so scans that show TSF 8th gen in like 100 years from muv luv alternative total eclipse?? also do they actually build colony ships and some humans escape the earth?
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>>15846456
>so she survived but all her soldiers died destroying the laser beta?
Uh, no. Latrova and her battalion survive up and to Operation Ouka, and presumably afterwards.
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>>15846456
Why are you reading the wiki and spoiling yourself on everything instead of playing the games instead?
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>>15846456
>I just found out about muv luv
>so I decided to read the wikia and post on 4chan
what did he mean by this
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>>15846207
>why has SF jumped the shark?
>why are practically sisters in law getting along no that their dispute is irrelevant?
>why is a coldblooded pragmatist getting along with another coldblooded pragmatist?
No idea buddy, you tell me.
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>>15846459
so is the anime different than the VN??? did they change it. in the anime the main character says that Latrova and all her soldiers died and became heroes of te USSR
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>>15846485
>in the anime the main character says that Latrova and all her soldiers died and became heroes of te USSR
Because the MC doesn't know any better; that's what the USSR said so that's what everyone who is not involved believes.

They didn't change anything, you just don't understand the deeper meanings behind propaganda and cover ups.

Play the VNs.
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>>15846485
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>>15846485
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>>15846456
What the fuck are you doing here then? Go read the trilogy right now! It's on Steam.
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For those concerned, I sent in a Meiya + Takeru request to an artist.

I think this guy was pretty good for it, here's his tumblr. http://burnishable.tumblr.com/

Sage.
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>>15847207
Any specifics?
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>>15847209
I wasn't given anything specific beyond holding hands on a date, so that's what I rolled with. I tried to stress I was just a middleman and that's what the thread at the time went with.

That guys open for commissions right now so if you like his art I'd say throw your idea at him as well.
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>>15847207
>>15847216
Thanks! That's a cute request and he seems like a pretty good artist.
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>>15846207
>still not Kurogane shennigans
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>>15847216
Thanks anon. Hopefully 12/16/17 gives a shitton of cute Meiya Takeru stuff.
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>>15847607
>it's been like six years since Jilpoong last did a Meiya birthday pic
Doesn't he love her anymore?
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>>15847631
He's dead. Literally.
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>>15842082
>Gunlord for example is an incredibly dumb newfag

Congrats on outing yourself as a newfag, newfag!
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>>15844969
No, that was abolished after the Second World War; only the imperial family remains.
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>>15840289
Not if we just sit around and accept that. Take some hostages and break some kneecaps and we may be able to "persuade" them to deliver the goods.
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>>15842082
>>threads are deleted due to general OPs

They purge entire threads full of discussion just because they're anal-retentive about OP formatting?!
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>>15847950
Welcome to neo-/4chan/.
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>>15847950
>They purge entire threads full of discussion
Oh yes, """discussion""" there was but it was purged.
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>>15846456
Listen, you're doing some things wrong. Don't read a wiki before having read all the material you can get your hands on, it's a bad idea.

First, read the Trilogy, that is Muv Luv Extra and Unlimited, available on Steam. Alternative will be available for purchase shortly, backers from the translation Kickstarter already have it available so there won't be delays.
The trilogy covers all the bases and you can go anywhere afterwards. Note that almost everything else is a spin-off and not a direct continuation, with the exception of most side stories and TDA. Details later.

Total Eclipse was a light novel which was later adapted into a VN, as of yet untranslated. The anime covers the first half. You will need to find a summary of the second one if you want to know more about it. It takes place before the trilogy. There's a side story, Teito Moyu, which expands upon the first few episodes of the anime. Teito Moyu will get a translation as part of the Kickstarter.

Schwarzesmarken is another prequel, even further into the past. Began as a LN, then adapted to VN and it's got an anime, but it condenses a lot of stuff. Not translated yet either, but it's possible that it will get translated since the Kickstarter will also bring us the demo. There's a prequel LN, Bernhard im Schatten, not translated either. Again, ask for plot summaries.

There is a timeline split between Alternative and Unlimited. Everything prior to that (including TE, even if Alternative is used in the full title) is in the same timeline. The Day After is the aftermath of Unlimited. There are four episodes, 0 through 3, but only 0 and 1 are translated. They were released within each Alternative Chronicles. Ask for summaries. Episode 4 never ever.

There's a plethora of shorter side stories, so I'll cover them in the next post.
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>>15847910
>being a newfag is a measure of time rather than a semi-permanent state of mind
what a newfag thing to think
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>>15846456
>>15848279
Now for the side stories. Most are in VN format and were released as part of side story collections, some where released twice. For clarity, I'll list the collections and their contents before talking about what has been translated.

>Supplement
Contains "Before the Sakura Trees Bloom" and the Short Story collection, AKA "Another Episode Collection". Everything is Extra-related.
>Altered Fables
Contains "Before the Shimmering Time Ends", "Faraway Dawn" and a demo for Total Eclipse. Faraway Dawn is a turn-based tactics game and Before the Shimmering Time Ends is the only "real" content (and a mouthful), so most people refer to it as Altered Fable. It's Extra with Alternative characters.
>Ayu-Mayu Alternative
Contains Ayu-Mayu Alternative (a gag spinoff), Atonement and Inheritance.
>Haruko Maniax
Contains Haruko Maniax and Faraway Dawn 2.
>Alternative Chronicles
AC1 contains TDA 0, Chicken Divers and Rain Dancers. AC2 contains TDA 1 and Aspiration. AC3 contains TDA 2 and Resurrection. AC4 contains TDA 3, War Ensemble and Last Divers.
>Photonflowers and Photonmelodies
Photonflowers contains "Before the Sakura Trees Bloom", the Short Story collection, Atonement, Inheritance, Chicken Divers, Rain Dancers and Confessions. Photonmelodies contains Aspiration, Resurrection and "Before the Shimmering Time Ends".

The Kickstarter will translate Photonflowers and Photonmelodies, so the only content it won't translate are Ayu-Mayu Alternative, Haruko Maniax, TDA, War Ensemble and Last Divers. However, fan translations are already available for Altered Fable, AC1 and 2 and Haruko Maniax, so you can already read those once you've finished the trilogy if the Photon collections haven't been released yet.

Finally, there's TSF in Action (TSFiA), short stories you can find translations for on the wiki. Only a few have been translated, though. Eurofront is part of TSFiA and Aspiration is the only VN content for it.
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>>15846456
>>15848301
I forgot some extra stuff that is good to know.

>Lunatic Dawn
Short setting material books, released at comickets. Some (I don't remember which ones) will be translated for the Kickstarter. They're available untranslated on sadpanda, but numbers 8, 9 and 10 are missing afaik.
>Codex
A big setting bible, released around TE iirc, it will get a tranlastion as part of the Kickstarter.
>Strike Frontier
A gacha-style mobage, is the source of all the lewds nowadays and has various what-if scenarios based on the rest of the franchise.
>Manga
The Alternative manga ends with an epilogue showing the future of the Alternative timeline, but the translation isn't there yet. It's a must read coupled with the VN, but it's no substitute.
>Exogularity
The lastest. A Lunatic Dawn-style artbook which gives further information on the epilogue of the manga. Since it's not even a month old, speculation is all we have. There are summaries floating around and some blurb translations were made on /a/ when it was released, check the archives.
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>>15848279
>>15848301
>>15848309
Also. Sumika is best MuvLuv.
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>>15848309
>Some (I don't remember which ones) will be translated for the Kickstarter

Last I saw, LDs 1 to 3 (also compiled as Allied Strategy 1 some comikets back) will be included with the physical KS codex. There is no mention of whether they'll add in TE World Guidance/Design Archive with it or not, though.
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>>15848301
I love Supplement cause Ca$hiwagi replaced Meiya , cant wait for it to be translated
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Due to not being able to read moonrunes, I remain anime-only when it comes to TE and SM. What do I need to get up to standard within a reasonable timeframe? Summaries for TDA 2 and 3 would be nice too.
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>>15848358
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>>15847586
Doesn't he say to Yuuya that what Isumi likes to drink is delicious and he should try it oo?
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>>15848312
Don't listen to him. Meiya is the better option. You get someone that's just as deredere, but also can and will defend your honor.
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Nobody here likes Akane cept for Gohda right?
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>>15848471
>Meiya
Gets raped by BETA.
Dies like a bitch.

>Sumika
Gets raped by BETA.
Survives.
Becomes much stronger.
Destroys BETA as revenge.

It is clear who is better girl.
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>>15848491
>Meiya
>raped by BETA
The difference is that they attacked Meiya, while Sumika was a guinea pig. You want your guinea pigs to last long to experiment on them.
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>>15848491
>Survives
That's a pretty low point for what you'd call survival though
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>>15848491
>Dies like a bitch
Dies standing her ground, asking for her final wish. She wanted to die like that.
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>>15848491
>Dies like a bitch
You can try but you can't hide Sumicuck
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>>15848513
It is plenty if you get a chance at taking revenge on your enemy.

>>15848582
>>15848617
>Meiya apologists
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>>15848646
t.sumikafag

noose yourself
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>>15848491
I'm a sumikafag and I think you're misremembering Alternative.
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>>15848646
>Implying that Sumika would consider Meiya as an enemy.

She would've never been able to compete with this if the story didn't force us down worst girl's throat. The only people that would choose Sumika are the kind of guys that got cucked by their childhood love interest and project their-selves on Sumika. There's literally no other reason.

Image NSFW
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>>15848862

KGNE - Mitsuki
ML - Sumika
TDA - Yuzuka
SM - Katia

Starting to notice a trend here with "winners." Only series that bucks the trend is TE.
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>>15848862
Sumika cares about Meiya a lot. I kinda wish their rivalry lasted a little longer in Extra. Their cute friends fighting for their love.
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>>15849060
The only trend I dont see is with Katia
Hayase
Sumika
Yuzuka
Inia
These girls are pushy/clingy to the MC over other girls which is why they won
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>>15849060
>ML - Sumika
>TDA - Yuzuka
>SM - Katia
Is the trend here they're all shit?
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>>15849060
Fixed:
ML - Meiya
TDA - Ellen
SM - Iris
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>>15849237
The true patrician taste has revealed itself
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>>15849288
Yeah, stand aside

ML - Kashiwagi/Mana
TDA - Ellen/Marimo
SM - Iris
TE - Latrova/Stella
KGNE - Akane
EF - German Meiya
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>>15848491
you post sums up /m/ pretty gud. Only bunch of tards here.
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move aside god tier taste coming through peasants.

ML - Meiya/Yuuko
TDA - Ellen
SM - Beatrix
TE - Latrova
KGNE - Mitsuki
EF - Helga
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>>15849472
Replace Latrova with Stella and we're good. I do like all of the EF girls but Helga is literally just German Meiya. I'd pick one of the other 2 just for variety.
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>>15849472
Replace Beatrix with Iris and it's good. Iris is just as pretty, and her personality doesn't stink.
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>>15849573
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>>15848491
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>>15848862
>Ban
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>>15845882
>with Inia watching them fuck

Why would she do that?
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>>15848195
Nice abuse of quotation marks. Was that supposed to """prove""" anything?
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>>15848296
>words don't mean what they mean
>words can be misused however you want as long as you can perform the mental gymnastics necessary to "validate" said misuse

Go back to grammar school and bolster your vocabulary, newfag.
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>>15849472
>>15849296
>>15849237
>>15849168
>>15849060
Where do you guys think you are?

ML - Takemikazuchi, F-22 Raptor
TDA - F-15J, Rafale
SM - MiG-21
TE - Shiranui Type 3, Su-37 Terminator, Su-47 Berkut
KGNE - Sports Car
EF - EF-2000 Typhoon
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>>15850036
>Takemysushi
stopped reading right there
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>>15850039
Just because you can't take the sushi doesn't mean it isn't good. You just have shit taste.
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>>15850039
Take your waifu wars shit and go back to /a/
Oh wait, you can't, cause you got booted out of there too, Hah!
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>>15850051
>damn dude you have no general anymore! haha it was always inferior to my general anyway
woah
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>>15850180
Meiya is not a "quick fix" away from being a worm slut delete that post now.
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>>15850199
I blame twitter and me being new to messaging people on it. The way I wrote the post would've made sense as an email but on twitter it all appeared to be 1 thought.

She works fast, and will change work if something's unsatisfactory so I've got no real complaints on my end.
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>>15850180
Those hips.
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>>15850180
>>15850202
It happens, the artist seems to be flexible so that's good. The hair is a little better but the face and eyes still seem a little different, has the artist seen a picture of Meiya and her features?
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>>15850231
I've provided several reference images and on asking if more was needed, she denied so I'm assuming everything should go well. I'll post the next update she gives me and if you guys still think things look weird I'll raise the issue.
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>>15850231
I actually miss the original character artist.
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>>15850368
There's an appeal to the giant ass pupils all the main girls have.
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>>15850236
Lineart.
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>>15850869
The hair looks much better, IMO. The face still looks a little different than Meiya's did (again IMO), but maybe that can be chalked up to the artist's style, so I guess thats okay. I like the choice of clothing, she looks nice in those jeans and sweater. Is it gonna be colored?
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>>15850869
Looks good but shoes are very meh.
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>>15850869
I am awaiting this.
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Like in first week, 2 new TSFs in gacha and 3 new welfare girls in a popularity contest.
With Beatrix having easily won the first one.
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>>15850961
Who will win? God-Empress Kasumi or her colour fetishist sister?
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>>15850981
Minori, obviously.
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>>15850961

Goddamn, that Terminator.

Are they actively trying to see which combination of shapes and colors on a TSF are enough to induce a gag reflex nowadays?
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>>15850991
Sure thing pal.
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HOLY FUCK
I CANT BELIEVE IT
I THOUGHT KASUMI IS ACTUALLY SUMIKA BUT IT REALLY AINT
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>>15851070
But that is wrong!
>Kasumi
>Ka Sumi
>Sumi Ka
>Sumika
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>>15850869
Too cute. Thanks anon.
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>>15851048
>Minori is first
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>>15851070

I thought she was Sumika's psychic clone initially.
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>>15850961
>With Beatrix having easily won the first one.
This makes me happy.
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>>15851254
Japan proving they have shit taste once again.

Also, how the fuck are you supposed to even get to the boss on the 30-stamina mission when the Lasers keep spawning one at a time on opposite sides of the map?
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>during half stamina, rewards for each girl were only going up to 40K tickets
>now that it's back to normal stamina, it goes up to 160K
>new cards in gem gacha are indeed not on rate-up but just put with all the others
And how the fuck do you beat 40stamina? I always time out against the final boss since it's all alone so my skill gauge almost never fills. At least it's nice that a timeout is still a win but I bet only that final boss drops rainbow chest.
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>>15850961
>1st anniversary
>still haven't fixed the stamina glitch the whole time
Is this game so popular that they don't care about the glitch?
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>>15851386
It only happens if your timezone isn't set to JST, so they probably haven't noticed.
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>>15851394
The testers must be doing a bad job.
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>>15851326
>>15850961
キャラの得票数ってホントに正しいのか?
現時点で1億2千万オーバーだけど、10万票が千人で1億票だぜ
SSRチケット三枚目標3万5千票でも三千人以上
よくわからんくなってきた

1人で1億ぐらい稼いでるマクロ・加速ツール使いがいるに100ペリカ

でも実際前回の詐欺票数が出る程回すプレーヤー本当に居るのかよって話よな
数千人ガチ回しレベルねえ

Unfortunately the poll was heavily rigged. Players cheating to boost their numbers. Plus even a few hours into the event Beatrix already had multimillion points which was physically impossible for the couple thousand players at any given time playing, especially with the majority of players reporting on 2chan and elsewhere voting for Lise the most by a wide margin.
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>>15851564
>Unfortunately the poll was heavily rigged.
That could explain this >>15851254 as well.
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>>15850869
face looks like Sumika
Meiya has sharper eyes
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>>15851764
>>15850869
It is not late yet!
Tell the artist to change it to Sumika!
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>>15851787
burn in hell asshole
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>>15851799
NO!
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>>15851819
Die in a fire
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>>15850869
Brought up the face, how's this?
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>>15851864
>derp face

>>15851861
Of course not!
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>>15851864
Another update, I'm working with her
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>>15851864
Better, but still a little bit off imo. Maybe I'm just being really nit-picky. Her eyes are a little thinner.
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>>15851873
I don't see this ending good.
So it is fine if it is not Sumika.
I wouldn't want Sumika to get same treatment.
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>>15851877
No, I don't particularly care about Meiya and I'm trying to get her to look more mature for this. Right now I think she's suffering from the moe phase. The artist is really nice and has no problem redoing things so I think these bumps will be ironed out.
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>>15851894
Forgot my image
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>>15851896
Looks lot better now in my opinion.
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>>15851896
And another. I think it's improving.

Let me know if it's getting better guys, I don't want to have the rest of the thread cluttered.
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>>15851908
>dropped my image twice
Goddamn
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>>15851916
That is not nice!
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>>15851564
>>15851726
Pretty much. Minori and Beatrix are/were the troll options. Minori is a nobody and the amount of attention she gets in SF annoys the fanbase, while Beatrix is widely regarded as the most unpleasant and unlikable character in Muv-Luv by a wide margin.
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>>15851932
>Beatrix is widely regarded as the most unpleasant and unlikable character in Muv-Luv by a wide margin
Says the American anime-onlys. Japs and the people who have actually read the VN love Beatrix.
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>>15851938
Well, then help us get out of the anime-only cage. Not everyone can read japanese and it'll be years before an official translation comes out.
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>>15851564
>>15851726

not really i farmed like crazy and put 1mil+ into beatrix. git gud senpai.
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>>15851921
The best you'll ever get
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My favorite TSF are the F16, and Rafale.
My favorite girls are Tasha and Yifei.
What does that say about me?
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>>15851951
>Rafale
>Yifei
That you cheat on your woman.
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>>15851948
not to mention if you get full squad of +bonus tickets TSFs you can get shitloads of them.
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>>15851938
Not everyone.

>>15851948
Yes really, thats the fact. From the beginning the numbers didn't add up and neither did the communities reaction. Just ask 2chan.
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>>15851965
see
>>15851962
community is retarded.
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>>15851941
The problem is there's a bunch of shitters that stubbornly hold onto the opinion that Beatrix is somehow the most evil bitch. She's basically just like Yuuko in that she does a few bad things but it's for the survival of humanity as a whole. She's arguably better than Yuuko since she's forced to do the bad things instead of doing them for her free will. Her whole plan was to overthrow the Stasi from within, but keep East Germany isolated and militarized to use as a shield while the rest of Europe evacuates. She was thinking about the big picture while Iris and the rebels were thinking about the small picture and were being dumb nationalists.
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>>15851938
Don't exagerate. The japs don't hate her, but if they loved her the prequel wouldn't have tanked.

>>15851941
She is inconsistently written that's all. Her attitude towards her job, colleagues and goal, vary from version to version. And that's on top of her jarringly different attitude and behaviour as a teen.
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>>15851965
Lise should have won, really. She's second only to Iris in popularity. In general, SM popularity goes:

Iris>>Lise>Katia>Gretel=Beatrix>Kirke>rest
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>>15851975
No one likes Katia though.
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>>15851978
Definitely not now

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/katia-and-jose-to-strengthen-in-atlantic-impacts-to-bypass-areas-hit-hard-by-harvey/70002649
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>>15851970
キャラの得票数ってホントに正しいのか?
現時点で1億2千万オーバーだけど、10万票が千人で1億票だぜ
SSRチケット三枚目標3万5千票でも三千人以上
よくわからんくなってきた

1人で1億ぐらい稼いでるマクロ・加速ツール使いがいるに100ペリカ

でも実際前回の詐欺票数が出る程回すプレーヤー本当に居るのかよって話よな
数千人ガチ回しレベルねえ

No really go to 2chan, there are people using software to boost their numbers. They did the math and multiple millions of votes a few hours into the first day with the game's population was not possible either. It was already proven the numbers were fraudulent. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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>>15851975
Judging by the number of people reporting so on 2ch, twitter, ect. she probably would have normally.

>>15851978
Ironically though besides Iris and Lise last I checked Katia still has more fanart than Beatrix.
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>>15851978
She's the face of SM and the canon main heroine. The story revolves around her, and the ideals she fights for form the heart of SM's message.
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>>15851973
tbqh, I'm so tired of people talking about what seem to be different characters with the same name that I barely care about SM discussion. Having a script translation would be a godsend, but that didn't happen (yet, I hope) for TE and SM will likely follow suit.
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>>15851993
>She's the face of SM
>only on 2 LN covers
>countless failed merchandise
you can do better
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>>15851997
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>>15851992
there is very little people in 2ch threads. this is more realistic since streams got around 2000 viewers.
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>40 tickets from 30-stamina mission
Thanks for giving me all those XP items instead. I really needed those. Only had a thousand of each left.
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>>15852002
here is more. she even beat Bernadette who usually won by large margin.
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>>15852009
forgot pic.
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>>15851984
>>15851975
>>15851973
My waifu can beat your waifus up.
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>>15852009
>Bernadette
literally who

don't you mean UN HEROES and munakata
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>>15852014
i can post polls all day. Only Irisdina is/was more popular than Beatrix
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>>15852025
Wasn't Iris route the most popular of the 3 too?
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>>15852002
>>15852025
>>15852014
>there is very little people in 2ch threads
Thats neither true in this case nor is it a true statement to make in general. Plus honestly that polls from years ago, popularity changes, troll votes influence a large portion, polls can be rigged, and it doesn't say much when popularity polls amongst a fanbase don't coincide with how much characters are really discussed or the fact Beatrix has way less fanart than Iris or Lise, and even Katia. Those polls don't do much good in the end.
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>>15852034
Beatrix is mostly ignored from what I can tell. She's brushed under the rug, like Axmann. Gretel and Kirke are way more discussed.
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>>15852034
>newfag who discovered 2chan trying to act like he knows anything about MuvLuv
you wouldn't be saying any of that if you actually knew who the troll votes were and understood how the polls worked

basically, go post about how great lise is on /c/. this board has neither the moonspeakers nor the inclination to care about japanese content because they are all filthy eops
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>>15852034
there isn't a lot of people in muv luv threads on 2chan. Most of time i visited and there was a thread up it died with like 20-30 posts.
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>>15852041
>Gretel and Kirke are way more discussed.
Thats neither true in this case nor is it a true statement to make in general.
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dude who pointed out the face here
>>15851896
>>15851912
looks much better
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>it's a strikefrontier ruins the thread episode
Damn who could've foreseen this?
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>>15852043
https://find.2ch.net/search?q=%E3%83%9E%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B4
You need to know where to search.

>>15852042
You sound mad because you know I'm right, can't disprove it so start ragging about "newfags" and filthy eops. Then again if you actually spoke Japanese we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place.
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>>15852034
Fanart doesn't mean shit. Not everyone can draw.
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>>15852046
I see way more mentions of Gretel on 2ch than Beatrix.
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>>15852058
>You sound mad because you know I'm right
but you're not. the gate guards have been the sole troll vote for literally years; if you weren't new you'd know that

fuck off back to 2chan if you're so superior
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>>15852061
It says something when the majority of muv luv related artists draw what they do anyway.
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>>15852074
It also says something when girls like Beatrix have hundreds of thousands of more hits on pixiv and otherwise than Katia
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>>15852071
But I am
>the gate guards have been the sole troll vote for literally years
That has nothing to do with polls that don't contain them, I mean just look at the Vivi(troll) option you posted above.
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>>15852076
Except she doesn't.
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>>15852076
She also gets the majority of the doujin material, even if that's less than flattering.
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>>15852077
>I mean just look at the Vivi(troll) option you posted above.
sure, and the question was still who is best grill

crazy how beatrix still beat a troll vote
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>>15852082
>Except she doesn't.
Except she does. Katia has 116k hits right now and Beatrix is at 218k.

Crazy how it takes a minute to look this up.
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>>15852085
>>15852093
>>15852077
samefag
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>>15851953
Never, I just don't like TSF chinkshit
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>>15852093
Really because Beatrix' name only comes up with 57 hits on Pixiv.
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>>15852108
>57 pieces
>the same as hits
We're talking about visits, not art.
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>>15852108
Beatrix is also very difficult to draw and get right. Her hair is annoying to draw.
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>>15851972
People were saying she was a rapist whore who killed Irisdina's brother and was the one pulling Axmann's strings (and thus responsible for Lise) for a long time before the anime came out.
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Artist asking if it's ready to be colored.

Is it?
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>>15852114
>Iris
458881 views

>Lise
263362 views

>Beatrix
217875 views

>Katia
116811 views

K.
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>>15852131
>K.
Glad we can be on the same page. Real shame about Katia failing as a poster girl, though.
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>>15852127
I still think Meiya's face is a bit off, it is just tiny bit too round/chubby
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>>15852131
look up how much art they have and how many views average per piece of art and you will get a semi-realistic number how popular they are.
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>>15852139
Well we were technically talking about two different things pieces vs views so I guess we were both right, but yeah shame that.
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>>15852127
it's missing her needle-like bottom eyelashes
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>>15852144
Still be rather skewed, as some extremely popular artists have painted Iris and Beatrix.
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>>15852160
correct. but its still more accurate than just looking at total views.
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>>15852140
Not the commissioner, but I think that's just the artist's style. I think it's alright, having taken a look at some of his other artwork.
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>>15852140
>>15852153
She's got her eyelashes back

She's working on the face again and I'll probably ask her to color after she's done
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>>15852144
I don't know how well that would work since both artist popularity and how long the tag has been active have an effect on that. That and popularity of characters also changes over time. But when it comes to current popularity they have charts for that.
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>>15852186
From one Draw fag to Another. Fix Takerus right eyebrow its all fucked.
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>>15852186
Also I love your enthusiasm in drawing this.
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>>15852208
Wow, Iris is strong. Makes sense that Beatrix wouldn't be that popular though. I think the thing a lot of people don't get here is that you don't have to be the most evil or cruel character to be the hate sink. Compare Nena Trinity to Ali al Sanchez in Gundam 00. Sanchez was a way worse person than Nena, but he had charisma so people still liked him while they crapped on Nena for her actions. Same with Beatrix and other ML villains. She may not be the worse (that would be Axmann, even if she does come close) , but except for her design, she's just a really unpleasant and dislikable person in every way.
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>>15852244
By your own examples Beatrix would be alike to Sanchez with charisma. You're making the mistake of taking the anime Beatrix and assuming she's the same across every medium when she's a vastly different character in all 3 adaptations she's featured in.
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>>15852244
If you look close Iris is about the same as Lise under the 500 range on average this year, she's not too much different but if you're wondering what that one huge spike into the thousands range is its

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=63847690
Really popular artist included her in a piece.
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>>15852272
>in a piece.
He's done like 6-7.
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>>15852276
Yes but in the time frame of the graph that is when he did the most recent one.
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>>15852253
The VN version does less bad stuff, but her rude, smug bitch behavior is the same. She still treats everyone she meets like trash or tries to mentally torture them, even as she uses them as tools to be discarded when no longer needed. This is especially bad when it's directed towards likable or sympathetic characters like the Iris, Theo, or Lise.
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>>15852317
>She still treats everyone she meets like trash or tries to mentally torture them, even as she uses them as tools to be discarded when no longer needed.
Nice headcannon you have there.
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>>15852317
>The VN version does less bad stuff, but her rude, smug bitch behavior is the same.
I just finished telling you she's not the same in the different mediums and you're now telling me she is. I'm not really interested in such a circular argument so have fun thinking the way you do, I guess.
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>>15852337
>>15852335
funny how in VN every time she does something nice it automatically leads to her death. Its like she does what she has to to stay alive and the moment she does something nice she is dead.
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>>15852348
>funny how in VN every time she does something nice it automatically leads to her death
That's the other type of headcanon. She dies out of her own stupidity, not some twisted form self sacrifice .
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>>15851004
TSF are the new idols of their time.
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>>15852354
>She dies out of her own stupidity,
Yeah, getting hit by a missile storm in the middle of a city is her fault for being stupid.
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>>15852354
She's not a selfish person, but she definitely isn't altruistic or kind. She's singleminded or fanatical to the point of sociopathy. She doesn't really care one way or a another who she helps or hurts, herself included, just so long as it advances her goals.
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>>15852357
Her own fault for:
a) using civillians as shields
b)not surrendering and dragging the war out, possibly even permanently crippling the DDR's chances of recovery
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>>15852357
>fools around in her fight with Theo instead of going in for the kill
>assumes that Theo can be trusted and doesn't notice his obvious hatred of her
>knowing that the only thing that awaits her is death, insists on Iris killing her in a TSF fight
Hmmm.
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>>15852364
>In the visual novels however, she shows restraint and avoids fighting in civilian areas when she can, such as in Irisdina's route where she attempts to funnel the fighting to the outskirts of Berlin. Beatrix is even shocked when Irisdina orders sections of Berlin to be bombarded in Lise's route.
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>>15852371
She was shocked that Iris would do it, but then compliments Iris for being so callous in her next line to herself.
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>it's a "beatrix is hitler reincarnate" episode
There's no winning against these people, stop replying.
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>>15852375
>but then compliments Iris for being so callous in her next line to herself.
That seems inconsistent with tha anger she shows towards Iris for the rest of the fight.
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>>15852378
More like Ceausescu than Hitler.
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>>15852384
>Ceausescu
Literally who?
>Romanian Narcissist
No.
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>>15852387
A lot of SM seems to be based around that whole revolt though. Of course, I think Schmidt works better as a Ceausescu figure. Beatrix was one of the only people who was willing to fight and die for the ideals of communist totalitarianism instead of just her own gain (even if she would have likely been the new dictator had she won).
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>>15852430
>Beatrix is a commie
You could've went with literally anything besides the one thing she's not.
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>>15852640
Looking good! She should be a bit more blue though. She looks more like Yuuhi right now color-wise. I'd like if her nails were painted too (fingers and toes) like in >>15852053 but that's up to you.
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>>15852640
hey that looks really nice
now put Lux-kun in one of the buildings at the back
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>>15852710
Do you nerds want painted fingernails? I think they'd be nice as well, but respond with what you think.

Brought up the hair color to her, just to add.
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>>15852732
>painted fingernails?
And toes! That's why girls wear open-toed shoes like that, to show off their painted nails.
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>>15852640
>>15852710
I'm leaning on painted nails, what color though? Blue?
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>>15852777
I like the dark blue in >>15852053
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>>15852786
Then that's what I'm going with.

I'll probably be disappearing until the morning.
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>>15852777
Looking very nice, can't wait to see how the finished version turns out!
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>>15852798
We'll need a new thread by then.
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>>15852777
Can't wait to see this finished. If I have to nitpick a little, I think they should be wearing the Mitsurugi rings. Nothing too serious, but a tiny addition.
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>>15852732
Nah, tarting them up is just off-putting to me.
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>>15852990
Oooh, I really like that idea, but you'll have to bring it up tomorrow since I think that guy went to bed.
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>>15853193
Just a tiny addition that has a fair amount of significance. It pretty much saved her.
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>>15853465
>It pretty much saved her.

?
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>>15852777
Here.
Let me fix your image.
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>>15853574
From an arranged marriage with a guy she didn't love.
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>>15852354
>That's the other type of headcanon. She dies out of her own stupidity, not some twisted form self sacrifice.

Lise route - She orders her unit to fall back she covers the retreat while moderates shell the city. She fights alone vs Irisdina and gets backstabbed by Theo whom she gave a chance when Lise brought him to her.

Irisdian route - Goes against Schimtts orders to abandon 666th and leave them to die. This allows for the rebels to take power np. When asked to surrender she refuses since she knows she would be executed in a kangaroo court. Dies when the rebels shell the city.
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>>15852375
>She was shocked that Iris would do it, but then compliments Iris for being so callous in her next line to herself.
>in her next line

She is pissed and screams her name in the next line.

you just make stuff up as you go?
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>>15853582
Cancer
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>>15852777
Sorry Meiya
You gonna end up losing with that kind of figure even with those trips
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>>15853624
I forget, what did it look like?
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>>15853887
haha, nice try
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After daily update, Minori is still first with 13M tickets.
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>>15854311
>not voting for God Empress of Mankind
Heathens!!
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>>15845915
That's just Yui's fan fiction

Yuuya and Inia being possessed by ghost Cryska fuck like rabbits in secret while she helps Kasumi
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>>15854311
I wanna cum inside Minori
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>>15853954
It was never shown on-screen, and I can't remember if it was described in any detail.
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>>15854556
I'd assume it'd be some silver ring with a blue headpiece with an insignia on it.
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>>15854311
>>15854329
It's trolls trolling the vote again, just like they did when they denied Lise her rightful victory.
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>>15854637
>now trolls are at fault, not cheating or age rigging the damned thing
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>>15854652
There's a lot of overlap between hackers/cheaters and trolls.
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>>15854637
>>15854652
>>15854656
You're both correct.
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>>15854659
Really says something about Beatrix when she's basically replaced the gate guards as the troll option.
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>>15854659
I'm still convinced the thing is rigged. It would fit with the disproportionate amount of attention Beatrix gets from Age.

>>15854667
What does it say?
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>>15854667
Except she's not a troll option and people actually really like her.
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>>15854692
I don't know about Age itself rigging these polls unless they already had it planned for the story in the event but nips had already proven the numbers were fraudulent, and there were people using outside programs to boost their numbers.
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>>15854704
How much of her vote was fraudulent vs genuine?
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>>15854746
Theres no real way to separate them to figure that out desu.
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>>15854767
I keep forgetting 'to b honest' is replaced with desu. desu
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>>15854637
If it makes it any better Lise doesn't care too much about the contest, she's mainly doing for Theo who was rooting for her already, and that win or lose he thought she was the cutest and the winner in his book which meant much more to her than the contest itself.

Then they go fuck over and over again in his room.
https://pastebin.com/77kCbzbF
CG, video, and english translation inside.
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>>15854860
To be fair too though, Beatrix was mostly doing it because Iris convinced her that it would impress Jurgen. Unlike Lise, she definitely wasn't in her comfort zone (hence her asking Lise for tips), something that Yuuko and Iris point out.
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>>15854860
>If it makes it any better Lise doesn't care too much about the contest,
>>15854887
>Iris makes Peace with Beatrix and Yuuko brefriends them

The thing was definitely rigged. The winner was going to get a special birthday picture, right? Makes sense they'd pick the one they could deliver in two months, instead of waiting almost a year for Lise's.

>>15854888
Nice. And nice trips.
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>>15854931
>Iris makes Peace with Beatrix and Yuuko brefriends them

They spend the majority of this scenario hanging out with each other.
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>>15854931
>>15854937
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>>15854888
Nice. Hopefully we get more cute shit as when Alternative comes out for everyone, along with post Alternative stuff.
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>>15854931
>The winner was going to get a special birthday picture, right?

No. The winner gets a special christmasu card.
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>>15854960
>Christmas Bea
Mein herz!
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>>15854937
That sounds like a fun girl's club.
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>>15854931
I think its good Lise gets what she really wants out of the event either way, although its too bad the votes are getting warped by cheaters. Plus in the time it would take for Age to release whatever prize illustration they're doing theres gonna be dozens more fanart works by then.
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>>15854976
Yuuko tends to gang up on whoever else is getting teased.
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>>15854983
Well, Iris ends up winning their little teasing confrontation. She managed to make Beatrix flustered and stutter, ironically with compliments instead of straight up teasing. See >>15846207 for proof.
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>>15854938
Yuuko and Beatrix look the same/ give off the same vibe, even if they're in different art styles. It's those eyes and smirks that does it, I think (not to mention the same breasts and height proportions).
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>>15854888
Super cute! Did you ever manage to ask about the Mitsurugi ring, though?
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I want SM EXTRA where Beato and Iris are still BFF!
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>>15855227
I couldn't easily find a reference image, so no.
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Alright, I had some trouble converting the psd since I don't use these fuckin things and here's the original canvas.

Let me know if it looks weird due to file issues, like artifacting etc.
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>>15855242
Too bad. The best you'll get is Strike Frontier.
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>>15855363
Looks great. Thanks!
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>>15854235
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>>15854637
> just like they did when they denied Lise her rightful victory.
ABSOLUTELY HERETIC

>>15855242
I don't think BFF might exist in SM Extra.
but in Altered Fable version...
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>>15854888
>>15855363
great job anon!
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>>15855242
Happy birthday Iris!

Iris a cute! CUTE!
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>>15854995
YES

POST MORE

also this better not be another dream
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>>15854995

I like where this is going.
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>>15855796
>>15855804
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>>15855854
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