So, having watched the original 0079 series and then Zeta, and

>>15823570
Watch ZZ.
Episode 36 is pure Gundam kino.
Also, Judau is a cool guy.

Just watch ZZ. CCA is not as good as people hype it up to be.

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>>15823570
>>15823588
>>15823619

Sadly, ZZ should be your next step. This is the shorter route, if you dislike the goofiness and want to see a sequel to the others:

2
7-13
16-23
27-28
32-38
42-47

Victory is cool, but after Zeta, I would tell you to see the best Gundam; Turn A. Enjoy the travel.

>>15823636

Oh, thanks a lot for the episode guide! It didn't even cross my mind to look for something like that.

>>15823570
I recommend trying them all, because all of them have things to like about them. Just don't force yourself to watch anything you end up not enjoying.

>>15823570
Finish things off with ZZ and CCA. ZZ is not as good as Zeta or 0079 but it still has some serious moments.

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>>15823570
Just my two cents to make it clear not everyone on /m/ agrees on ZZ, I thought it was absolutely *terrible*. I think you should watch CCA, and then watch whatever you want after that.
Just a word of warning, don't expect a standard straightforward action movie from CCA. Its really weird.

>>15823570

Watch everything UC and AU in production order.
After Zeta, comes ZZ. ZZ is the God damn DIRECT sequel to Zeta. It's a 100 episode show cut in 2 seasons. So people that jump over ZZ after having watched Zeta are fucking idiots. It's like stop reading a book in the middle and saying you've got the whole story.
After ZZ, go watch 0080, Victory, 0083, Ms 8th Team, and Turn A. Switch to Au's and start with G Fighter. Follow with Gundam Wing, Seed/Destiny. Then go watch Gundam 00 + film and finally Gundam Age. And finish with GBF.

>>15823781
>ZZ is the God damn DIRECT sequel to Zeta.
And its completely tonally dissonant from Zeta. It's as if Choro Q Dougram was 50 episodes long and was supposed to be taken as canon with Fang of the Sun Dougram. Skipping it if you're not enjoying it is completely acceptable.

>>15823570
ZZ is actually really good if you just start at episode 18 and go on from there. Like, yeah you will miss some stuff character development wise - but nothing in the plot mattered until around that point anyways.

>>15823796
>And its completely tonally dissonant from Zeta

It doesn't fucking matter. ZZ is the direct sequel to Zeta, and constitutes half of the 100 episode story arc. Even if you find moments of humour, animation errors (you can find those galore in 0079 by the way) it's still necessary to watch it to get the whole fucking picture.
CCA is the direct sequel to 0079 (or the movie trilogy). So people that say go watch CCA after Zeta are stupid and you end up understanding even less than had you watch CCA after 0079.

>>15823821
>it's still necessary to watch

Nothing is necessary to watch. If you're not enjoying something, there's no reason to force yourself to watch 20 hours of it. You'll only end up hating it even more.

>>15823829
Exactly, not even 0079 or Zeta is ""necessary"" to watch. If you're wasting dozens of hours on a show you hate, you've fallen prey to memes.

>>15823847

I know, but it took me some time to learn that lesson. I used to force myself to sit through shows I wasn't enjoy just for completinism or to know what the fuss was all about, but I realized I was just wasting a lot of free time when I could be doing something else.

Now I'll just skip ahead or drop a show altogether when I'm not enjoying it, and look up a wikia or something if it had essential plot developments before moving on.

>>15823570
0080
CCA
Unicorn
The Origin
Turn A
Victory
G-Reco

That's pretty much the only other worthwhile stuff in the franchise

>>15823865
>G-Reco

Lol you must be joking.

>>15823570
m8. ZZ is literally the second half of the Zeta story, and Zeta pretty clearly didn't resolve much. You have essentially only watched half a show and you're asking what to watch next.
You
are
having
a
giraffe

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>>15823879
Greco is Kino

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>>15823865
Where the fuck is F91 , G Gundam, and Wing? F91 is essential if you are doing unicorn and victory, and the 2 other AU's if you are doing Turn A (probably Gundam X too but I never got into that)

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>>15823636
Turn A sucks man. I agree that it is a need to watch, but anyone who likes it is more for young girls/boys in drag/and is more for peace than giant robots until the last few episodes when Turn X shows up.

>>15823570
>I've seen a lot of people trashing on ZZ

These people are fucking plebians. I really hate the ZZ is shit meme. It's one of the best and consistent Gundam series ever made.

>>15823570
Wing, G, X, Seed and 00 have nothing to do with the UC storyline. If you want to keep going with the plot you could watch 0080, MS IGLOO, 0083, Thunderbolt or 08th MS Team.

ZZ is really not that silly considering it's a cartoon. You can watch CCA but it should be saved for after (and it's also one of the best animated movies in history).

After that you can pretty much do whatever you want. Unicorn comes after CCA plot-wise and then F91 and Victory happen after if you want to see what becomes of the Earth Federation after Zeon is wiped out.

>>15826204
Wing, G, and X are connected with Turn A which is connected with UC.

>>15826204
Forgot to mention Turn A and Recognsuita in G are basically the 'ending' of the Universal Century storyline. You should totally save those for last.

>>15826207
DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS GUY

They are explicitly stated to be Alternate Universes. Wing, X, G, Seed, 00, AGE and Build Fighters have NOTHING to do with UC.

>>15823865
>0080
>CCA
>Unicorn
>The Origin
>Turn A
>Victory
>G-Reco
>That's pretty much the only other worthwhile stuff in the franchise

Dude, you're a born comedian.

>>15826212
Dude, you're a born shitposter who can't refute a single statement with an actual argument and can only make dumb remarks.

The sad part is that you probably think you're clever.

>>15826211
>build fighters has nothing to do with UC

lol?

>>15826211
You know full fucking well G Gundam is a part of Turn A, the fucking DG cells are in it with Turn X doing Shinning Finger. The others might be spoilers so I will hide their references.

>>15826231
Jesus Christ calm the fuck down, kiddo. Just because they reference it doesn't mean they're directly connected. I am literally only talking about stuff that is CONFIRMED to be UC and not just fan-theory conjecture like you're doing.

>>15823636
pff
if you can sit though Zetas worst you can make it though ZZ worst as well.
especially since its mostly front loaded
also while Zeta had a better i think ZZ had better characters.
like Glemy Toto's evolution from aloof dandy whos position was mostly politically earned to noble bastard leading his own Zeon faction is great.

>>15823796
i honestly think its the better for it though, i felt like the last bunch of Zeta episode were a slog because of how goddamn depressing it was, not to mention the clutserfuck that was the finale

>>15826179
>Turn A sucks man. I agree that it is a need to watch,
doesn't sound like you do

>>15826242
>>15826231
>>15826211
see i always figured that the Black History was a version of UC, G, Wing and X that some how all fit togeather
like G is canon to Turn A but Turn A is not canon to G, get me?

>>15827367
You literally just spoiled him

>>15823774
Also a few annoying characters.
And Char's mommy issues. Otherwise, the action is decent and MS Designs are likeable.

What am I missing with ZZ? Everytime I see someone say they are struggling with it, people say you shouldn't watch it if you don't like it.

Guys i didnt watch much of G-Reco but i absolutely love artstyle and dynamic in first couple episodes.
Is this wrong? Is my taste - shit?

I want to start 0079 and get into Gundam but the one thing turning me off is I read the characters and motivations etc aren't complex at all. I like my shows where people aren't evil for the sake of it, it's morally complex. Does Gundam do that?

>>15827591
>people say you shouldn't watch it if you don't like it.
that just very general advice

also youre missing the other half of the story Zeta started to tell with the titans falling apart and Zeon now taking its turn against the now weakened federation.
and honestly the only people who think ZZ need to be skipped or skimmed are people who think that Zeta is the highest form of story telling in Gundam. ZZ is fine just be aware that the tone shift from Zeta to the beginning of ZZ can cause whiplash and that it gets better as it goes on.

>>15827624
yes, Zeon is a political faction borne out of the Feneration favoring of earth and Zeons founders ideas of a new spaceborne race of people, the Federation is a government that overstretched and under staffed.
there are heroes and villians on both sides and though Feddies vs Zeeks tend to be the overriding "theme" of UC its full of complex factions and characters.

>>15827634
Thanks anon, you've convinced me to start 0079

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Is the Hyaku-Shiki a Gundam?

>>15827749
It's never explained in canon.

Extraneous non-canon books say it was derived from a Gundam prototype built by AE.

>>15827749
is as close as you can get without actually being gundam
like the Tallgeese

>>15823570
ZZ is trash skip it.

>>15823805
>ZZ is good if you skip half the show
ZZfags are always amusing

gundam zz isnt terrible. i hated the first half with a passion but basically the second half is much better. it shouldnt be skipped, especially if you're gonna watch unicorn because it starts with zz fanwank basically.

>>15827749
>>15827997
It's not a Gundam or they would have called it Hyaku Shiki Gundam

>>15823570
If you want to stick with Universal Century you can't go wrong with
>08th MS Team
>0080 War in the pocket
>0083 Stardust Memory

I fucking loved the first episodes of Double Zeta. How can you not love Mashymre and his antics. Then they introduce and flesh out interesting characters. As the episodes go on you start to see how the relationships between old friends is structured. plus we get whaky Gundam comedy. I like to imagine that he society in UC is build like they portray it in ZZ. Nobody takes things seriously and everyone just wants to have fun


ZZ is truly a masterpiece.

>>15823570
Watch ZZ. It is not nearly as bad as the haters say. Don't skip episodes, either.

08th MS Team and Stardust Memory are the best imo..mecha animation in 0080 War in the Pocket is pretty epic but the plot and characters are pretty childish.

Wing is decent with lite of politics and stuff happening. Not the most realistic mecha but it has aged well compared to some of the other shit Gundam series' that are straight cartoonish and silly. UC really is where its at. Gundam has lots of untapped potential.

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How hard do you think Bright slammed that puss?

>>15830840
>How hard do you think Bright slammed that puss?

Bright is a decent man and would never betray Mirai. That said, he's still a man and can be charmed. It's Emary that has a real crush on Bright not the reverse. And honestly, Emary is good looking and a pretty nice character. I would flirt with her alright.

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>entrusting the guarding of an enemy newtype to two kids

Sausage Brighto

>>15830863
The White Base brig was a revolving door, I can't think of anybody they captured who didn't escape immediately, or in some cases escape repeatedly.

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>>15829115

Watch a random AU series then watch ZZ. That way the tone shift doesn't mess with you as bad.

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>>15830896
>White Base

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>>15830992
Argama.

>>15830863
i think she was a cyber newtype and was only made such after she escaped.
like Cello

>>15831543
RIP in peace Marshmellow

>>15827624
>characters and motivations aren't complex at all
What? no. Char for example is such a complex character that we have 100+ post threads weekly with people bickering on his true motivations

>>15831721
>we have 100+ post threads weekly with people bickering on his true motivations

>"Lalah Sune could have been a mother to me"
>WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS???

You should read 0083

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>>15831593
>tfw Marshmellow went from shitty pushover villain to a based, high-level enemy pilot who died for his ideals

>>15831885
that kind of character evolution is why ZZ is great

>>15831885
I wonder what happened to him yo have this drastic change.

>>15834256
Got Cyber-Newtype'd IIRC

>>15827627
You don't need to watch ZZ to see anything about Neo Zeon. You can infer Haman died in the fight with Char at the end of Zeta and then that essentially diffuses what you're saying ZZ is necessary for.

>>15837506
by that logic you could just stop after MSG because you can just infer that everything just worked out after the finale
you can just stop watching Zeta after the first episode because you can infer that Kamille blew up after stealing the MK II
You can stop watching Stardust Memories after the fist episode because you can infer that the immediately caught up with Gato and arrested him
you can infer a lot of things, doesn't make them right or make a series unnecessary to watch

So why is gundam considered such a terrible franchise?

>>15838424
Still not worth it, ZZ Is just a plotless silly comedy.

>>15838477
oh, so you never actually watched the series then

>>15838502
The thing that ZZ ain't important to the other UC series.
Si is like it doesn't have a plot.

>>15838443
Back to your containment thread.

>>15838512
Why is this always the response when gundambabbies are required to think

>>15838511
It actually has a conversation between Bright and <spoiler> towards the end that brilliantly sets up CCA. Not to mention the Dublin arc is Gundam kino

>>15838516
>implying that ZZ set ups CCA
You mean the one with Sayla?
Not important, I say.
The Dublin arc? It's an OK arc at most.
Jesus, it doesn't even have Char in it, it can't set up CCA.

>>15838511
>>15838523
oh so you're just trolling