What a disaster

>>15817033
>What a disaster

Gunbuster 2 is a better story than that of Gunbuster. The original Gunbuster was a just a mash up of different genres, cool poses, great shading and bouncing boobs. Of the six episodes the real meat of the story could be reduced to less than one episode. The rest is fucking useless pandering. Good pandering but useless.
One may hate Gunbuster 2 because the art style is different, or the message is different, or the because the main character isn't even human. But it has more heart than Gunbuster ever did. And the final episode is fucking EPIC. Animated this time not stills because fucking GAINAX ran out of money.

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>>15817033
I really liked Diebuster and watched by mistake 5 after Diebuster.

Wish the movie had more posters.

>>15817057
>Gunbuster 2 is a better story than that of Gunbuster.

How does one go about attaining such shit taste anon?

>>15817057
>fucking EPIC
kek

>>15817033
It's mediocre. But I liked Nono though.

>>15817098
He's right though. No one even remembers the first 4 episodes of Gunbuster. Both shows are shit though and are only remember for about 5 minutes of mecha porn at the end and an emotionally manipulative ending that's worthy of an Oscar

>>15817033
It depended a little too much on Gunbuster, probably to appease to nostalgia fags and that was its biggest problem. But still had a lot of fun and interesting moments and I liked Nono and Lal'C a lot.

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>>15817033
i enjoyed diebuster more

Only fags don't like it

>>15817057
>Animated this time not stills because fucking GAINAX ran out of money.

See, I like Diebuster more than Gunbuster too but saying this kind of shit makes me look bad by association with idiots like you.

>>15817137
Gunbuster is literally proto-Eva and the deepest anime of the 80s. It was basically the first OVA with a plot

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>>15817167
You make people who like Gunbuster look bad, go watch more OVAs and then come back.
Or it's bait and I'm retarded.

Gunbuster is creatively bankrupt and was only good because it ripped off the plot from another show. Diebuster threw together a plot from stuff found in a dumpster and covered it up with lots of pretty colors

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>>15817137
I do and don't remember most of the gundam material I've been through either and I watched the entirety of UC 2 years ago like Diebuster. Your point? They saved their resources, fleshed the characters out, and when the time was right the pay-off was amazing. Gunbuster may not be to your liking but it is certainly a good OVA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxKhhMdbU5I

How can anyone call a show with this playing in it a shit show anyway?

the ending to Diebuster hits me a lot harder than Gunbuster's.

>>15817178
Nah they all aged like shit compared to Gunbuster

>>15817167
>Gunbuster is literally proto-Eva and the deepest anime of the 80s. It was basically the first OVA with a plot

What kind of shit is this ?
Area 88 predates Gunbuster and even A88 had a more or less coherent storyline (besides fantastic action scenes that rival those of Gunbuster).

>>15817193
>Nah they all aged like shit compared to Gunbuster

Dude to say that you haven't watch Gunbuster recently. It has aged very badly, even Aim for the ace has aged gracefully. Gunbuster hasn't.

The less you like FLCL the less you'll like Diebuster

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>>15817215
>mfw i hate flcl but love diebuster

checkmate athiest.

>>15817213
>>15817193

You two should be more specific when talking about aging. When people talk about aging they mean animation/art and all that crap, while others mean the story and characters with all its tropes.

>>15817137

> emotionally manipulative

Manipulating your emotions is nearly the job of fiction. Saying something is 'emotionally manipulative' is an empty statement, because almost all fiction does it.

>>15817252
Not him but I'm pretty sure he means he went for the cheap and easy tugs on the heartstrings rather than something the story "earned" by building them up over the course of the story

still retarded but you know

>>15817057
>this entire post
Humanity was a mistake

>>15817240
>You two should be more specific when talking about aging. When people talk about aging they mean animation/art and all that crap, while others mean the story and characters with all its tropes.

I'm not talking about the animation or character design (which I like a lot by the way). The story and the tropes haven't aged nicely at all. You could just as well enjoy watching Gunbuster with the audio turned off. That's how cheesy and bad the dialog really is.

>>15817252
>Manipulating your emotions is nearly the job of fiction. Saying something is 'emotionally manipulative' is an empty statement, because almost all fiction does it.

There is way and way to emotionally manipulate an audience. It can be subtle or heavy handed like Spielberg (example in Schindler's List). Heavy handed is bad, subtle is good.

>>15817339
>You could just as well enjoy watching Gunbuster with the audio turned off.
Well, sure, because you'd be reading the subs

>>15817155
>>15817174
>>15817176
>>15817181

These all look like shit.

>>15817155
i could care less about everything involved with diebuster or which is better to whoever's opinion. i'd have actuall enjoyed it if it wasn't designed to look like goat's ass, everything is fucking dumbstyled as shit looking.

>>15817192
of course because it's built upon the ending to gunbuster.

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>>15817607
>i could care less

>>15817612
but i don't care about the gunbuster returning. I care about Nono sacrificing herself for all of humanity, and the haunting music that plays at the end.

Not gonna read the thread.
I'm just gonna come right out and say it:
"USE THE EARTH AS A PROJECTILE WEAPON" is the absolute stupidest plan in the entire history of fiction.

>>15817655
not really any worse than

>take jupiter
>reduce it down to 1/30000 of its size
>float it into enemy territory
>turn it into a bomb

>>15817666
What else are you going to use if you want to make a gigantic bomb in a relatively secure location?

Jupiter's also less useful. Earth's got that whole livability thing going. Using Earth as a weapon is like killing someone by throwing your own decapitated head at them; it might work, but not really worth it.

My current tastes gravitate towards Diebuster but I love both equally. I would not give a shit about Anno at all if he hadn't make Gunbuster.

The only part that was awful was when the guy tried to rape Nono and Nono couldn't fight back for some reason. And Lal'c got jealous because she liked the guy. Aside from that it was good.
Gunbuster had its shit parts too, but the ending was so fulfilling that people forget everything that wasn't good.

>>15817969

Well, Nono is a robot so she probably could not harm people even in an awful situation like this.

>>15817342

> Heavy handed is bad, subtle is good.

That's way too simplistic a distinction. It is, ironically, rather heavy handed with its definition. I can think of plenty of blatant and obvious emotional manipulations in fiction that are generally liked, and some subtle ones that aren't well liked. Romeo & Juliet is about as subtle as a brick in the face but it almost single handedly defined the love story and 1984's manipulation of the reader to hate Winton for his cowardice and capitulation to government oversight over apparent love in the end is pretty blatant too. It's still effective though, especially if the reader has already sympathised with him up to that point so that they're left conflicted on how to feel afterward.

Just because something is obvious doesn't make it ineffective. Advertising essentially works on the rule that it can be. The louder and more blatant the better in its case really, since it leaves consumers with less visible choice and a distrust of anything they haven't heard of even if they think the one they have heard of is only okay.

>>15817033
try harder

>>15817666
Yes, it's MUCH worse because it's their own home planet.
"We'll stop them from destroying our planet BY DESTROYING IT OURSELVES!"
Even Cobra Commander would laugh at this.

Gunbuster was bad, Diebuster was worsre, but at least Diebuster had a good OP AND ED, that makes it superior by default.

>>15818484
I always got the impression that they knew it was a fucking stupid plan, or that it was at least portrayed as such to the viewer

I liked it a lot. Incredible character designs. Everything is so sexy.

I adored Gunbuster, and I like FLCL and Gurren Lagann, but Diebuster just didn't do it for me. Dicks Neuf deserved a better series imo.

>>15817033
Gunbuster was pretty shit too

>>15817969
>The only part that was awful was when the guy tried to rape Nono and Nono couldn't fight back for some reason. And Lal'c got jealous because she liked the guy.
That part was humanity kino. I'm not an Annofag but even he would be proud.

>>15817033
It did a good job of making Nono a relatable character in the first half so that when the focus shifts to Lal'C in the later episodes and Nono is wielding the power of a god we still understand her intentions and motives.