Anno Top 10 Anime

>>15765900
legendary shit taste

>tom and jerry

>no modern anime
Garbage taste

>>15765900
Good taste, but isn't this list from 20 years ago?

You forgot Getter Robo Armageddon
Also, I think Legend of the Galactic Heroes was his best work.

>>15765900
>no love live
Anno I thought were better than this...

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>>15765900
>9. Tom & Jerry (1944)

>>15766365
Never thought about that one before.

>>15766365

Patrician choice, literally the best western cartoon

>>15765900
Fucking pleb

>>15765900
>Anne of Green Gables
Good taste in waifus

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>>15766584
If you're a paedophile.

>>15765900
>look at me and my refined taste when all these shows aren't really that good
Except for Yamato, but I'm sure he only has that at namba wan because muh ships and WW2 nationalism.

>>15766673
>all these shows aren't really that good
epic

>>15766365
Can that hack do ANYTHING original?

>>15766673
You know what you can talk shit about Gundam and the storybook classics but if you talk shit about Tom and Jerry, you have absolutely no taste in animation or cinema whatsoever.

>>15765993
>You forgot Getter Robo Armageddon

Stay delusional, Pablo.

>>15765954

Anime is just a shortening of animation, friendo.

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How do you feel that pic related is one of Anno's favorite animes?

>>15766939
sadpanda link plox

>>15766773
Tom and Jerry is repetitive garbage.

>>15767151
lmao look at this pleb

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Since when does /m/ hate Evangelion so much?

>>15765900
How few shows must you have watched to consider the original rush job Yamato with its dogshit pace to be best thing youve ever watched? Future Boy Conan is just the obligatory Miyazaki entry I assume, he cant seriously believe that its top7 anything (its probably still Miyazakis best work which is the saddest part).

>>15767334
Has never been different. Its also fairly simple to explain: Gundam cucks are mad that EVA will forever be considered the pinnacle of the genre by most people, and that there wont ever be a Gundam show that will surpass EoE in regards to animation, framing, cinematopgrahy or ambigiousness.

>>15766673
>Except for Yamato
You had to unironically ruin your own post by pretending that Yamato is worthy of placing on a list, right?

>>15765900
>no Zeta
Good taste

So is this a thread where everyone is pretending to be contrarian, or are you guys THAT stupid?

>>15767858
Honestly we're at the point where its impossible to ever talk about Eva meaningfully any more. Everything interesting or insightful has already been said about it and everything now is people just regurgitating points. Hell someone somewhere has probably said this exact thing already and then someone called him out for being unoriginal.

>>15767858
The better question is how anyone could seriously believe that MSG, CCG, Indeon and Yamato (the original) belong in any top4.

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>>15767412
>Gundam cucks are mad that EVA will forever be considered the pinnacle of the genre by most people

One franchise has two 1/1 statues erected in its honor in Japan, the other has devolved into Pachinko machines and whatever the fuck this joke is.

The only people who take Eva seriously nowadays are middle-aged waifufags.

>>15767880
And One Piece has a national holiday, doesnt mean its good. Whats your point? No one questions the impact that Gundam had on the anime industry and Japan as a whole due to it. Being there first isnt the same as being the best, Anon.

>>15767880
>whatever the fuck this joke is.

Yeah a horse mecha would never happen in Gundam...

>>15767887
>And One Piece has a national holiday, doesnt mean its good.

It means it has a legacy, which is more than can be said about Anno's masturbation show. Which he gladly burned to the ground in subsequent years.

>Being there first isnt the same as being the best, Anon.

Not sure how that helps your argument considering Eva was neither first nor best in any category.

Enjoy getting your wallet continually milked by Japanese George Lucas.

>>15767889
Last time I checked, Gundam never promoted the horse racing industry.

Gotta sucker those middle-aged virgins into buying Eva merch no matter which hobby they turn to.

>>15767887
I hear Detective Conan has a national holiday too in Japan, you get to murder someone and if nobody can figure out who did it and how, you get away with it.

>>15767895
>It means it has a legacy
I'll go out on a limb here and claim that more people between 15-30 will have watched EoE than MSG/Zeta or any of the older shows, but dont quote me on that. So are you sure that the legacy is related to Gundam being good, or simply to it being still around due to there being a new show every single year? I wonder...

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>>15766773
Same with Popeye.
Is there anyone who can say they hate Popeye?

Source: the internet

>>15767911
I'll go out on a limb here and claim that more people between 15-30 will have watched Sword Art Online than Evangelion or any of the older shows, but dont quote me on that. So are you sure that the legacy is related to Eva being good, or simply to it being still around due to there being the Rebuilds and endless streams of merchandise all over Akihabara? I wonder...

By the way, Char and Amuro still get actively promoted over any other characters in all of Gundam. This is how it's always been even before Origin and Unicorn.

I have barely seen any Tom and Jerry and have little memory of it. Recommend some shorts.

>>15767917
Last time I checked EoE was considered to be one of the greatest accomplishments in cinematic anime history. EVA also opened the gates for more mature anime to leave the shadows and go from just being OVAs to being aired on TV. When you talk about legacy its pretty damn delusional to unironically imply that EVA doesnt have one when it effectively change the entire medium for good. Both of them have a legacy that changed the medium forever, whether you like it or not.

>between 15-30 will have watched Sword Art Online than Evangelion or any of the older shows
How, but at least the different between EVA and SAO is only 90% on Japanese MAL, while between MSG and EVA its 400%.

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>>15767931
>Last time I checked EoE was considered to be one of the greatest accomplishments in cinematic anime history.

According to whom, your delusional friends at Evageeks?

>EVA also opened the gates for more mature anime to leave the shadows and go from just being OVAs to being aired on TV.

Congratulations, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>When you talk about legacy its pretty damn delusional to unironically imply that EVA doesnt have one when it effectively change the entire medium for good.

Once again, according to whom?

>between MSG and EVA its 400%.

As if you couldn't wave your embarrassing flag of fanboyism any higher.

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>>15767412
The original Yamato is good, but it doesn't deserve to be namba wan. I only meant that it's understandable why it would be on the list.

>>15765993
>Getter Robo Armageddon
It's nothing like the source material and fails to capture the feel of the manga. Then again, it was good, but it wasn't that good.

>>15767944
You either have to be a shitposter, a total contrarian or a stubborn retard to deny that Eva has a legacy.

>>15768014
Evangelion's legacy is Akihabara, home of Otaku commercialism.

Your little delusion that it was a revolutionary creative work is a farce. Back up your pathetic arguments if you want to make a point.

>>15765900
source?

>>15768014
I'm sure all the directors in Japland have seen it, and they probably grab some ideas from it here and there too. But on the same token it's part of a stream. Anno only influenced people because he was influenced by other people, who just happen to still be alive and creating and influencing how people direct and write and animate.
If you asked Anno if Evangelion changed the whole game, he'd totally deny it. I'd love to be proved wrong on this one.

>>15768022
And what points have you made besides spouting crap and hate? Oh yeah, no points at all. Just a stupid horse racing ad, a lot of older anime with any brand recognition have silly ads.
What about the Evangelion bullet train which is in Japan? Or the huge Unit 01 statue in China? Pretty sure that Eva is also the most sold anime and while this has nothing to do with quality(and we aren't even talking about that), it's still part of its legacy.
How about the period of time when a lot of Eva copies would come out to bank in the success?
>inb4 but Eva copied Ideon and MSG
Sure, they had inspiration because both were hits. But it's not the same as similar series coming out to bank on the current success.

>>15768054
>And what points have you made besides spouting crap and hate?

I've made my point loud and clear. The essence of Evangelion is nothing more than commercialism and Otaku pandering. Just because your delusional fanboyism doesn't agree with the facts doesn't make them any less true.

Eva introduced absolutely nothing new to the medium within the show itself. What it did influence was how anime was to be sold/distributed and what aspects of it would be focused on. In essence, it influenced the shape of commercialism. Money talks.

>How about the period of time when a lot of Eva copies would come out to bank in the success?

Means absolutely nothing, because anything popular will have clones. Madoka had clones. SAO had clones. Attack on Titan had clones. Motherfucking Hunger Games had clones. Does that make them influential works? Fuck no, because trends are not an enduring legacy. Evangelion itself introduced nothing new to the realm of mecha or anime, but the superficial aspects of it were imitated by a few others looking for a quick buck.

>What about the Evangelion bullet train which is in Japan?

You must be a fucking idiot if you think the equivalent of a bus ad makes something culturally influential.

>Or the huge Unit 01 statue in China?
>China

Nevermind shooting your own argument in the foot, don't forget China has its own knockoff of the 1/1 Gundam statue.

>Pretty sure that Eva is also the most sold anime

And Your Name is the highest grossing anime film of all time. It sure is influential too, isn't it? And guess which shows come after Eva on that list? Fucking Bakemonogatari.

Let me put it this way: Char is considered equivalent to Darth Vader in Japan. What the fuck does Eva have to represent itself? The Evas themselves, and Rei and Asuka. The Evas themselves being acknowleged as parodies of Ultraman, and the two girls being reduced to waifu icons that Otaku masturbate to. Hardly any true symbol of admiration.

>>15768088
>what aspects

Meant to say " what merchandising aspects", but you get the idea

>>15767861
This is why no one likes Evangelion fans.
I'm talking about the people saying that the list is shit. Not about your retarded "Evangelion is the bestest of bestests animu there's always been" meme.

>>15768088
Evangelion influenced harem a lot more than science fiction.

>>15767863
Because they are all excellent, they influenced generations and even were the kick start for all Otaku phenomena.

>>15766773
It all depends on WHICH Tom & Jerry you are talking, I think. I don't like the shows from the 70s and 80s, in fact I despise the 70s version. But between the 40s and the 60s (specially the original and the Chuck Jones era) they were great.

>>15767927
Chuck Jones for funny. First era for kino.

>>15767944
>>EVA also opened the gates for more mature anime to leave the shadows and go from just being OVAs to being aired on TV.
>Congratulations, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
You engaged an Evafag, Anon. What did you expect?

I heard commies made Tom and Jerry shit

>>15767908
Isn't that everyday ?

>>15767944
Get informed dumbass
https://youtu.be/tJ3F_hhzJ3o

>>15768088
>What it did influence was how anime was to be sold/distributed and what aspects of it would be focused on. In essence, it influenced the shape of commercialism. Money talks.
No idea if youre illiterate or something but thats exactly what this guy >>15767931 claimed and yet you went ahead and denied it. I wont engage any further in this argument since there doesnt seem to be much of point.

>Does that make them influential works?
Actually, one more thing. If you just admitted that it changed the way anime were marketted, then how the fuck is that not influential? Youre contradicting yourself in your own posts all the time. Influence is not strictly speaking limited to coming up with new storytelling concepts.

>>15765961
That list was made in the 90s.

>>15768462
>Unironically linking a shittybro video

Fucking shoot yourself already you piece of shit.

>>15768654
I hate Digibro as much as any reasonable person, but c'mon lets judge the actual content instead of the person.
The video is pretty bad at times though and misses key stuff, gives Eva a little too much credit.

>>15768468
>thats exactly what this guy >>15767931 claimed

Nope; Eva did not open the gates for more "mature" TV anime you stupid fuck. Reread my posts. Eva's legacy is in how it was sold. Its only point of notoriety was that it sold well on disc. It made producers realize that TV anime itself could be sold as a product rather than being used as a vehicle for advertising a product. Overpriced Japanese discs are a direct result of Eva's success. This train of thought, along with Eva's relentless and shameless levels of pandering products and promotions eventually turned Akihabara into what it is today. The actual contents of the show itself are derivative, far from influential, did nothing to promote serious TV anime (which already existed), no matter what retarded E-celeb tells you.

So yes, Eva did have a legacy, but it has little to do with the show itself. The contents of the show were neither original, nor did it have as wide of an influence as Gundam did for anime as a whole.

>Youre contradicting yourself in your own posts

You're a fucking idiot with serious reading comprehension issues, you know that?

>>15768462
>more SEERIUS anime popped up immediately after Eva, which means they were influenced by it!

It's depressing that this moron has so many braindead subscribers like you who eat up their shit.

>>15767412
>You had to unironically ruin your own post by pretending that Yamato is worthy of placing on a list, right?
It captured his imagination when he was a young'un and he's never forgotten how much he enjoyed it. Why shouldn't it get a place on his list?

>>15768807
>Eva did not open the gates for more "mature" TV anime you stupid fuck. Reread my posts
Why would I need to reread your posts when its basically a fact that it did?

>Eva's legacy is in how it was sold
Which is called being influential. Its not up to you do decide what is valuable influence and what isnt.

>Overpriced Japanese discs are a direct result of Eva's success. This train of thought, along with Eva's relentless and shameless levels of pandering products and promotions eventually turned Akihabara into what it is today.
Sounds like a gigantic influence on the entire medium.

>The actual contents of the show itself are derivative, far from influential
Well the show sold and change the medium forever. Kinda has to be related to the content because I doubt that the Japanese government forced people to buy the merchandise.

>did nothing to promote serious TV anime
A handful of shows such as Warau Salesman, to some degree Maison Ikkoku and Lupin are a joke compared to what came afterwards. TV shows prior to were almost exclusively shonen or comedies. But go ahead and show me all those mature shows on Japanese TV prior to EVA. There is a reason LotGH, BlackJack, MegamiSama, GoldenBoy, the more mature Gundam shows were exclusive to being OVAs while TV screentime was basically given to shows like Slayers, Ranma or Tsubasa. But go ahead, list all those mature shows that aired on TV and while youre at it please compare them to the amount of shounen/shows with family accessibility while youre at it.

>no matter what retarded E-celeb tells you
Nice namecalling. I am waiting for you to back up your claims with actual evidence. Thats as simple as going on MAL, so go ahead.

>but it has little to do with the show itself
See above. Thats not for you to decide. It sold, so apparently it had something to do with the show itself.

>serious reading comprehension issues
Nah, I think thats you being unable to accept that something you dislike was influential.

>>15768875
>when its basically a fact that it did?

Once again, according to who? Your friends on Evageeks? Or that E-celeb video that was uploaded last week? You're a fucking moron who has practically zero knowledge of pre-2000s anime.

>Which is called being influential. Its not up to you do decide what is valuable influence and what isnt.

I've said many times- Eva the TV show is not influential. Its only point of notoriety was that it was astronomically successful, same way Avatar was. To argue that it's influential is to argue that Bakemonogatari and Madoka were influential because they're some of the best-selling anime of all time, when in reality none of them can compare in popularity or notoriety to established works like 0079 Gundam and the original Yamato. Sales does not equal cultural relevance and influence towards the contents other works.

>TV shows prior to were almost exclusively shonen or comedies.

So, the same as modern anime?

You're on a fucking mecha board, and you don't even realize the existence of mecha anime like the dozens of Takahashi and Tomino works that Anno directly took inspiration from when he made Eva?

>Thats as simple as going on MAL

Amazing, you can't even come up with your own argument and pulled it right out of Digicuck's video. Have you ever seen any of the anime that you're even talking about?

Morons like you are the type of twats who think shows like Brain Powerd were inspire by Evangelion.

>I am waiting for you to back up your claims with actual evidence.

I've been waiting for you to do the same since this argument started. All I see is you running to some poor E-celeb video posted a week ago as your "proof". You're an embarrassment to the mecha genre.

>Nah, I think thats you being unable to accept that something you dislike was influential.

Yeah, I'm so upset that the only thing Eva is widely known for is Asuka and Rei figures getting hotglued.

>>15768924
>Have you ever seen any of the anime that you're even talking about?
Every single one of them and I dont really get what youre even aiming at at this point. I wont bother to continue this argument until youve shown me evidence of the countless of mature shows that aired on Japanese television prior to EVA.

>I've been waiting for you to do the same since this argument started
I cant provide evidence for something that doesnt exist. Youre the one who claims that grim and mature anime were a common occurance on Japanese TV prior to EVA. I cant provide evidence for something that I claim to not have been the case, thats your job. So please open one of the many databases available to you and show the respective shows to me. Use AniDB if thats more to your liking.

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>>15768953
>Every single one of them

So you've seen every TV and film iteration of Lupin prior to Eva's release?

Let's be real here, you know fuck all.

>I wont bother to continue this argument until youve shown me evidence of the countless of mature shows that aired on Japanese television prior to EVA.

Provide me evidence that Eva was the root of "mature" TV anime becoming more widespread. That was your claim to begin with.

For fucks sake, it feels like I'm being baited at this point.

>>15768980
So you cant actually backup your claim even though its as simple as listing the shows your referring to? Case closed I guess.

>>15768986
>You can't list the hundreds of "mature" anime in existence before Eva, therefore you're wrong!

Jesus fucking christ, why do people like you even browse /m/?

Also, where is your proof that Eva popularized "mature" anime? Do you even know what "mature" means you stupid fuck? Do you even know what Zambot 3 even is?

Fuck off back to Evageeks.

>>15769025
To be fair, other than the suicide bombing, migrants having to flee their homes, every main character but two dying, the butcher killing people for sport, civilians trying to kill them main characters because they thought they were the root of the problem, the motivation of the villain being morally justifiable by his point of view, and the fact that in the end is just a pyrrhic victory, Zambot 3 had the pretty standard super shonen robot trappings.

>>15766777
>this meme again
Fuck off, Francesco.

>>15769058
>Zambot 3 had the pretty standard super shonen robot trappings

And Eva itself was pretty standard MotW until its last third and EoE.

>>15769025
>Do you even know what Zambot 3 even is?
Yes an incredibly shit show for children <10. It only influenced cancer like TTGL.

>>15769058
Theres no need to sugarcoat it. Its a super-robot show primarily aimed at a kids/teenager audience.

>>15769076
>teenager
Please stop including them in the robot show demographic. It is only young children. If you go to a Japanese video of Zambot or Daitarn and translate the comments, you will only find people saying they watched them in kindergarten.

Gundam: dude ww2 analogies lmao buy our bandais
Evangelion: a deep story about learning how to love oneself despite any hardships

>>15769076
>>15769086
Eva itself was originally aimed at kids too you dolts. It didn't get pushed into a late night slot until halfway through its runs due to ratings.

Mature anime sucks

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THE MASTER, ANNO!

>Tom and Jerry
Do the idiots bickering in this thread realize OP is bait?

>>15770741
I'm sorry, I don't quite understand your post. Could you please elaborate on what you mean to say?

>>15768002
>it was good, but it wasn't that good.
So, just like the manga?

>>15766673
>look at me and my refined taste when all these shows aren't really that good
It is a list of shows that had the greatest influence on him and his work. Why should it be "refined"?

>>15766777
>>15769063
Fuck off Steve.

>>15768953
Zambot 3, Yamato Season 2, Captain Harlock, the Robot Romance Trilogy. There's some examples for you from the 1970s. Evangelion was a heavily derivative show, not just from anime but tokusatsu both Japanese and British. Not in a bad way, as Anno is at his best when he's expressing his love for what he's doing (see Shin Godzilla), but it really didn't bring much new to the table. What it did do was prove that a different economic model for anime could be successful, as the other chap is saying.

>>15771126
>Zambot 3
Kids show, weve been over this. Not even tennagers, its literally for elementary schoolers.

>Yamato Season 2
I mean, I guess youre referring to the slightly more strategical approach in regards to combat, otherwise I really dont get why youd think that season 2 was any more aimed towards adults than s1. Werent both of them really commonly watched by children? Besides, why s2 in particular? Did they suddenly go from targetting everybody with s1 to adults with s2 and then back to everyone with s3 and the specials/movies?

>Robot Romance Trilogy
Another super-robot show literally made for an underage audience.

>Captain Harlock
Probably the only legitimate example you listed.

>>15771136
I'm taking it you've not watched any of the robot shows you're dismissing here.

Have you not watched Yamato Season 2? I'm not referring to the combat at all, I'm referring to the immense amount of character death and sacrificial behaviour.

Also Evangelion was aimed at a pre-teen audience as well and was aired during children prime time.

Honestly Harlock is the one I thought you'd be the most opposed to as it was not only aimed at young children but the character is more classic and pulpy than a lot of the others in the examples I listed.

>>15769086
>I GET MY SOURCES FROM YOUTUBE COMMENTS

Truly a master anime expert.

>>15771136
Wow you are so mature anon, you're watching an anime aimed at adults like yourself, because it's deep and teaches you how to love yourself so it must be deep, also Naruto was really deep too, it tough me to believe in myself.

Listen anon, Eva's story is pretty standard for an anime, it's nothing special, it tries so hard to shows itself as mature, ending up being really edgy in the end, you want a good, actually deep story ? Read some classic literature.

>>15771136
What is your definition of "mature"?

>>15771143
>I'm taking it you've not watched any of the robot shows you're dismissing here
Then why bother responding? I mean, belive that super-robot shows are made for adults for all I care but none of them are. They are, for a reason, almost always adapted from shounen works. Calling Zambot3 a show that is targetting an adult audience is laughable at best to be honest.

>character death
Wonder when the death of characters suddenly turned a show into something aimed at a mature audience. Oh right, thats probably the reason why you think that Zambot3 is targetting adults as well, because people die.

>Also Evangelion was aimed at a pre-teen audience as well and was aired during children prime time.
Was never even part of the debate and is irrelevant to the topic at hand so no idea why you even bother to bring that up.

>Harlock is the one I thought you'd be the most opposed to
I wanted to but it was a loss loss for me. If I point out that it was primarily aimed towards a younger audience you could have just said that its based on a seinen and there wouldnt have been much I could have done to refute that fact. There isnt really a way I could win that argument when the source material is aimed towards and adult audience.

>>15771151
Missing the point entirely. Now please piss off and refrain from wasting valuable space.

>>15771156
I'm missing the point, but maybe that's because you didn't explain what you meant by mature.

>>15771156
>Was never even part of the debate and is irrelevant to the topic at hand

wew

>>15769086
I see no relation between maturity and target demographic.
But since you insist, if we are talking specifically about robot cartoons, after MSG a lot of them were targeted at teenage and young adult audiences.

>>15771156
It's completely relative to the debate because you claim that Evangelion was aimed at adults, broke new ground and changed the industry, but you don't provide evidence of this while dismissing earlier shows.

>>15771163
Because it's not really his opinion, he's just repeating whatever he read in the internet, he'll just keep spouting the same thing over and over.
It's the same thing every Eva fan says.

>>15771163
The evidence is the shift in late night shows. They went from nearly non existent to being common occurance. I mean, of cource we can just pretend that the best selling show in the history of the medium (its still the best selling by such a gignatic margin that its not even funny), which had its second half air at "prime time", had no actual influence on late night anime becoming a thing, even though this phenomenon starting to occur DIRECTLY after EVAs success, but that seems rather fucking retarded dont you think?

Honestly, I am fairly fucking sick of you people putting words into my mouth, claiming that I put Evangelion on a pedastle and saying that it revolutionized the medium in regards to writing. I never made that claim. This entire debate started with some spastic claiming that EVA has neither a legacy nor that it had impact. Then he went on and on about how shows, that were primarily aimed at adult audiences, were common on Japanese TV prior to EVAs success but he was never able to actually back up his claim. Super-robot shows arent targetting adults, especially not if they are adapted from shounen, simple as that. Most of the few shows that actually targetted adults only got TV slots because how ridiculously their respective IPs were, see Maison Ikkoku being written by Japans richest woman. She could have written fucking hentai and it would have gotten a TV slot. If completely changing the industry to shifting away from OVAs and kids shows to simply airing everything on TV is not a legacy or being influential, well then I dont know what the fuck is.

Or you know, we can just pretend that the changes that happened to the industry in the late 90s were pure coincidence. Yeah, guess well just do that.

>>15771156
>thats probably the reason why you think that Zambot3 is targetting adults as well, because people die.

You're retarded and have clearly demonstrated that you've never seen a single episode of the show.

Eva is my favorite anime of all time, but It's thanks to stupid underage shits like yourself that it gets such a bad rep around here.

End yourself.

>>15771191
Nothing changed in the anime industry after Eva expect that the studio started pandering more to otakus, the stories aren't as good as the used to be.

>>15771191
>Then he went on and on about how shows, that were primarily aimed at adult audiences, were common on Japanese TV prior to EVAs success but he was never able to actually back up his claim.

People have listed plenty of "mature" anime already, but being the twat that you are, you did a cursory glance at their Wikipedia articles and dismissed them all. Your reliance on a fucking Digibitch video as the crux of your claim is beyond pathetic.

>>15771191
Anon give up, no matter what people on here hate Eva. Yes there are some fanboys, but it's mostly hated. Doesn't matter what kind of argument you bring up people will tell you to go back to Evageeks. Even the guy above clearly didn't read what you wrote.
Just go.

>>15771203
If you havent realized it: There have been multiple people involved in this discussion. I didnt link that video, but its not like it matter to be honest.

>plenty of "mature" anime already
Super-robot shows are not aimed at adult audiences, plain and simple. I mean, theres no much point in me even bothering with this since you'll just claim that I havent watched anything and that A or B as sources are wrong. One of the FACTS is that almost all of them are shounen adaptation. Last time I checked shounen are aimed towards kids/teenagers. But believe whatever it is you wanna believe.

>>15771206
>>15771191
Why are you replying to yourself?

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>>15771208
Nice try

>>15771193
There are people that actually cares about what /m/ thinks?

kek

>>15771208
Not me, I've just seen what people on /m/ think of Eva and it just doesn't matter. Anno is a hack, Eva is shit, everything Anno made is awful.

>>15771207
>Super-robot shows are not aimed at adult audiences, plain and simple.

In what universe is Harlock, Yamato, or any Gundam show outside of G a Super Robot show you stupid fuck?

>One of the FACTS is that almost all of them are shounen adaptation.

The "facts" that you pulled from that Digibitch video?

Your attempts to defend Eva's "maturity" fall apart even further when you realize it was also aimed at kids as a super robot show. You also make the fallacy that all late night anime are "mature".

Newsflash: Eva didn't pave the way for aniem to be more "mature". You're a moron who can't even define what "mature" even means, because by your own standards, Eva fails as a "mature" show since it was aimed at kids.

>>15771191
>The evidence is the shift in late night shows. They went from nearly non existent to being common occurrence.
This was acknowledged from the start as the one actually significant influence Eva had on the industry.

> that were primarily aimed at adult audiences, were common on Japanese TV
I don't know what your definition of "common" is but there definitely were such shows.

>Honestly, I am fairly fucking sick of you people putting words into my mouth, claiming that I put Evangelion on a pedestal and saying that it revolutionized the medium in regards to writing. I never made that claim.
If you mean that it had a late-night slot say that it had a late-night slot.
Don't exclusively equate a late-night slot with an adult target audience. Most adults with regular jobs watch prime-time. Late-night is an otaku slot.
Further, don't equate being targeted at an adult audience with being "mature".

>>15771213
>>15771212
The only universally agreed thing about Eva on /m/ is that its fanboys are all annoying pests who put the show on a pedestal without having watched any other mecha shows. Same rep as Gurren Lagann.

So far this thread is doing a fine job of upholding that reputation.

>>15771217
>This was acknowledged from the start as the one actually significant influence Eva had on the industry
And it was claimed to not be the same as being influential or having a legacy, which is pants on head retarded.

>but there definitely were such shows
The vast majority of them were OVAs, though. Plain and simple. Which also mostly vanished ever since the mid 90s.

>If you mean that it had a late-night slot say that it had a late-night slot.
My point was crystal clear from the get-go. You simply were too lazy to read up on what the discussion was about. Its not my job to recap shit for you.

>>15771220
This thread isn't even that bad, it's not like the fanboys are being like "Eva is the most superior and intellectual show ever!!", it's just peeps saying that it has SOME legacy. Even the fanboys on here don't jerk it that much, we're not Evageeks, anon.

>>15771220
Actually I don't give a shit about Evangelion, but It's funny when it gets mentioned and people immediately gets salty.

>>15771227
Evangelion it's a milestone in the japanese animation like Gundam o Haruhi, despite one liking like it or not.

>>15771235
Sadly people judge fans as a whole rather than on a case by case basis. If you are identified as a fan of something the majority doesn't like then no matter what you say you're fucked. As much as /m/ and 4chan as a whole hates reddit they are really similar at times when it comes to circlejerks

>>15771221
>The vast majority of them were OVAs, though.
The majority of them were prime time shows.
>You simply were too lazy to read up on what the discussion was about.
I think I've gotten the gist of the discussion well enough.