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>finally get to the supposedly ""good"" part of ZZ i.e. episodes 20-40
>its just Judau fighting sandniggers in 100 year old machines
Is ZZ the most American Gundam show?
[spoilers]No autism-posting like what happened in the last thread
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The good part is eps 2-19. The desert episodes are a low point for the franchise.
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>>15761355
Well, fug.
I kinda liked the campiness of the early episodes anyhow.
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I can see you're watching the old dubious subtitles.
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>>15761413
Yeah, when Beecha started calling people "fucktards" and Glemy doing similar with "faggot" I figured something was up.
Its entertaining seems mostly accurate so I haven't tried to find any newer ones.
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>>15761459
Those subs made my experience much better anyways. No harm done.
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>>15761345
all of zz is good though
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>>15761884
>enjoying the Moon Moon arc
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>>15761355
Welp, that part is fucking childish with too many memes from the autistic band of Judau
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>>15761345
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I think people only say ZZ is good to be contrarian.
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Ireland arc is the only good arc.
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>>15762097
I think people only use the contrarian meme to be plebian.
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>>15762097
Who cares if it's good or not? it's enjoyable.
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Well, fellow ZZfags? What'll it be? >>15763348
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>>15763383
Straight bangs get me erect that's all.
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>>15763267
My motto
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>>15763494
I think that makes roux look too pure.
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>>15765478
>implying she isn't
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>>15765478
Moar pure then some slutty loli 8 year old. Only closeted pedos like purupurupuru prove me wrong
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I couldn't make it past the episode where the guy attacks the school and fa tries to fight in the zeta.. It's just TOO goofy
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The Dublin arc gives me mad feels seeing what's become of Kamille; I really enjoyed the way Tomino handled it.
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>>15763494
>>15765484
Jewdough taps this?
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How the fuck did Leina even survive that fire?
I thought she died then and there, and that when Judau still thought she was alive as Beecha was about to call him out on that everyone else was just telling Beecha to shut up just to maintain Judau's delusion, but at the end she's actually alive? What the fuck?
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how did rasara die? nothing hit her, she just jumped on mondo and suddenly she died the next scene
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>>15765568
Killer dust cloud caused by the z,gok smashing into the building.
https://youtu.be/mErZHdTj0qI?t=38
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>>15765568
I heard it's an animation error and that she was supposed to be crushed by a boulder
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>>15763383
Elle is the only choice, don't be gay.
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>>15761355
No, the show didn't start until Haman was introduced outside of mashymre's delusions.
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>>15765531
>Fucks off with her to Jupiter while Elle gets shipped with Beecha and Mondo gets dead waifu
I think that's a safe bet.
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>>15761345

Unsure, but Chara Soon's certainly an argument for that. The woman looks like she stepped out of an American glam rock music video without changing.
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>>15766189
A lot of Gundam productions manage to not necessarily look like products of their time but ZZ is unapologetically 80's.
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>he believed the ZZ gets good meme
Only good arc was Dublin.
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>>15766189
MONSTER
BOOBS
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>>15761355
>low point for the franchise
This is where you realize this is bait. Here's your (You)
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>post yfw
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This little cunt makes me want to commit at least two crimes.
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ZZ is good from ep 1. You niggas just don't like fun.
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>>15765563
I'm about as confused as you are. I always assumed she just like, got away. That was the Newtype thing she did, before impact. Dunno how Sayla got her, though.
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Chara's voice tingles my dick.
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>>15761355
>The desert episodes are a low point for the franchise.

That's not Recognista In G
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>>15768958
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>>15768914
According to the wiki, Sayla actually came and took her away some time between everyone leaving her in there and the hut exploding.
How convenient.
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Just finished Zeta and I'm apprehensive to start this one because I've heard mixed things about it.
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>>15770738
ZZ at its worst is no goofier than TV Patlabor and at its best is arguably the hypest thing in UC Gundam.
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Are there any technical aspects of the Double Zeta Gundam that have surprise functionality that result in "O MY BIOSENSOR" moments in the last ten episodes of the show?
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>>15766067
Doesn't she abandon him as soon as they land though?
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>>15772402
Always thought that was Hasegawa's head canon (brought up in a crossover with Ideon, of all things), so I would take that with a grain of salt.
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>>15772402
They're together in Evolve so at least not immediately.
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>>15772349
The Core Block System. That's all I can say.
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>>15768880
>the colony drop episode

I HATE THIS BITCH I HATE HER I HATER HER JUDAU YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO PROTECT PLE
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>>15767108
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What did token probably-suicidal Delicious Brown have to gain from this?
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>>15774363
one fewer person to compete with
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>>15774363
Background setting (at the time of the original broadcast) said Mashymre discovered her at Shangri-la.
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I just finished episode 11 and the change in tone compared to the other series has really put me off.
Oh and please tell me that those two little traitorous shits aboard the Argama are gonna get what's coming to them. Is that shit even going to be addressed?
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>>15768958
>>15769233
>literal cancer voice
I spent the last few days with someone sounding exactly like Chara, it's fucking horrible

>>15771232
>ZZ at its worst is no goofier than TV Patlabor
This would be OK if ZZ managed to be consistently funny, but most of the time it's not. Patlabor knew how to play its goofy moments the right way.
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>>15774741
>>15769233
Her voice is pretty similar to this singer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRxqAxwxv8U
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I've got a sneaking suspicion the sculptor liked NGE.
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>>15774590
Someone really needs to make an infographic telling WHY its important to keep going.
Personally, I think Episode 36 is on par with the hypest shit I've ever seen in Gundam.
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>>15775235
I've got a sneaking suspicion the sculptor likes cute little cunnies
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>>15775738
I mean I'm going to keep watching in hopes that I get to see more of the old cast but so far I'm a bit frustrated to say the least.
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>>15774741
So are you mad about Chara's slapstick sortie in the R-Jarja or about Yazan becoming comic relief?
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>>15761345
The arc after the Desert one, is when things start to pick up. Once they hit Dublin, I think is when ZZ gets really good.

However there's more comedy once they're in space.
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Why didn't they make compilation movies for ZZ like they did MSG and Zeta?
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>>15779239
I don't even think ZZ got a dub, actually.
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>>15779216
That's a pretty long time for a series to pick up and get good.
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>>15779216
>However there's more comedy once they're in space.
Like one or two episodes at the most.
The rest of that final arc is on-par with or better than the majority of Zeta.
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It's an okay comedy series at the start, nothing awful - the only reason it's disliked is because it's such a schizophorenic continuation of Zeta. Then once they arrive back on Earth and get to the desert it begins to become more of your typical Tomino Gundam, which it is all right at, especially when the Dublin Arc comes which is amazing. Then when they go back to space they try combining the early comedy feel with the middle Tomino angst feel and fail miserably.

The final ten episodes of ZZ are such clusterfucks
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>>15779278
ZZ does have a dub, but it's by Animax. It's.... not very good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdfIFZYJvw
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I actually liked the last arc of ZZ; it's a clusterfuck but that's because its literally Punished Glemy and his loli army taking over Axis and fucking up everything for Haman's Neo Zeon uprising.
The last two episodes in particular struck a good balance of feeling like Zeta but with only an adequate amount of suffering involved.
Sayla's conversation with Bright about Char's whereabouts was enough for me to forgive CCA's out-of-nowhere Neo Neo Zeon uprising headed by the man himself
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>>15780512
Jesus christ Judau's voice.
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I just finished the series. Can anyone tell me why Judau was going to Jupiter?
Is that going to be answered in the movie?
I really want to know what the fuck Amuro and Lieutenant Quattro Bajeena were up to during all this.
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>>15786176
>I just finished the series. Can anyone tell me why Judau was going to Jupiter?
Presumably to make a living "mining" Helium-3 since that's why they do out at Jewpiter during the Early UC. No idea why Roux tagged along unless she was just bouncing on his dick.
>Is that going to be answered in the movie?
Lol no. Not even Kamille gets mentioned in CCA.
>I really want to know what the fuck Amuro and Lieutenant Quattro Bajeena were up to during all this.
Amuro and Bright were forming Londo Bell to basically do the Titans' job and Char stays in the shadows apparently stewing like Sayla described in late ZZ until the very beginning of CCA.
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>>15786230
>Not even Kamille gets mentioned in CCA
Nigger you shitting me? I assume most of my questions are to be answered in some other works? I only hope that they're not Star Wars EU levels of quality.
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>>15786258
>I assume most of my questions are to be answered in some other works?
I-I'm sorry, anon. There's nothing.
Although you could always watch the film-version of Zeta as it changes his fate but also de-canonizes ZZ as a result. Judau returns in Crossbone as an old but still kickass man
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>>15786292
I just finished watching CCA and I still have many questions and would have liked for at the very least Sayla to have made an appearance for fucks sake.
Do I go on to Unicorn from here?
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>>15786535
Unicorn will not give you any answers and just give you stupid-ass fan-service packaged in a story that is really just irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. I would still watch it though just so you know what happens in it.

Anyway, I'm of the group that likes to pretend ZZ didn't happen and that Kamille's arc ends with his brain damage.
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>>15786535
Unicorn explores the same setting and some of the same themes and elements, but is a new story about a new cast of characters. If you're wondering about the fate of previous characters, outside of a few cameo appearances there's nothing much for you.

What are your questions? Odds are we can probably answer them.
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>>15786543
>>15786545
What happened to Mineva?
That's one of the major ones
Is this is it for worthwhile UC stuff? I have 0079,Zeta,ZZ and CCA under my belt
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>>15786557
>What happened to Mineva?
Okay, watch UC, better answer than any we can give.

>Is this is it for worthwhile UC stuff?
0080 (War in the Pocket) is an absolute must-watch
0083 gets mixed reception, but it's only 12-episodes and it's a mid-80s OVA so it's pretty
08th MS Team similarly, only it's late-90s so not quite as pretty, but it does offer a different take on the OYW which is nice to see
F91 is rushed, but not actually bad, and being a single film it's only a short watch
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>>15786557
Oh, then I guess you do want to go on to Unicorn. Mineva is more or less the female protagonist.

>Is this is it for worthwhile UC stuff? I have 0079,Zeta,ZZ and CCA under my belt
There's other UC stuff, but those are self-contained stories on their own. Whether you'll like them depends on your own preferences, as they're somewhat varied. The OVAs most notably lack newtypes and psychic shenanigans.

There's Gundam F91 which is a movie set 30 years after CCA, about an armed movement that tries to set up an aristocratic nation in space by taking over a couple of colonies. Worth watching if you have two hours to kill, it's good animation but the writing is poorly paced and the flow of the story suffers as a result.

Victory Gundam is a TV series set 60 years after CCA about the conflict between another colonial uprising and the Federation. The Federation can't do very much so they rely on the League Militaire, a group of volunteer fighters that are vaguely akin to the old AEUG. I'd say it's worth watching for the nice combat choreagraphy and unintentionally hilariously weird writing at points.

0080 OVA is about a Zeon spec-ops team searching for a nearly finished prototype Gundam near the end of the OYW. It's been said a lot that this tells a better tragedy story than any of the other Gundam stories.

Stardust 0083 is a 13 episode OVA set in between the original series and Zeta Gundam, about the Federation trying to deal with remnant Zeons carrying out revenge operations. Worth watching for some of the best hand drawn animation in the whole franchise and the mecha designs. Story gets kinda iffy at the end due to drama and conspiracy. There's a compilation movie version that should be avoided since the pacing is awful.

08th MS Team OVA is about combat on Earth during the OYW. Main character commands an MS team in desert, forest, jungle, mountain, urban, etc environments. They discover a new Zeon weapon and are tasked with taking it down.
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>>15762097
I genuinely like watching it overall more than Zeta because the annoying parts of ZZ annoy me way less than the annoying parts of Zeta. However I feel like the high points of Zeta are better than the high points of ZZ. I'm not entirely trusting of people who completely bash it or completely praise it as to whether they actually watched it. Also I begrudge people who actively tell others and newcomers to skip it wholesale or to skip certain episodes rather than letting them watch it and make up their own minds - if people are into Gundam and want to watch more Gundam they owe it to themselves to at least give it a fair shot. I avoided AGE for the longest time because of people telling me it's shit but when I finally watched there were definitely aspects and parts I enjoyed from it (though I still think it isn't all that good).
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>>15780512
I thought it was pretty swish.
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>>15786595
>swish

?
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>>15761345
>Is ZZ the most American Gundam show?
This is the first thing I've laughed at all day.
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>>15788375
it's a line in one of the remaining ZZ Animax dub episodes
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>>15788535
What's funny about it?
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>>15761345
Best 80s Gundam show
Fuck MAHQniggers and their lame ass old memes about ZZ
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urgh, so Im new to gundam. recap or series?
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>ANIME JA NAI
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>>15792702
>NU GUNDAM WA DATE JA NAI
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>>15792693
TV show in production order
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>>15788535
MS Team and Stardust Memory are pretty "American"
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>>15791645
>Fuck MAHQniggers and their lame ass old memes about ZZ

?
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>>15792953
>0083
>Extremely well-animated and executed battle sequences

They are well animated but the choreography for most of them is awful and they aren't fun to watch. A majority of fights are so hard to follow or don't have anything going for them. 0079 had genuinely entertaining battles even with the bad animation.
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