>go to another board >some random topic devolves into people

>>15759899
/m/ started out as a containment board for Gundam SEED shit posting, much like /mlp/

By the time Minions movie 2 comes out, /m/ will be converted to a /m/inion containment board

>>15759899

Really? which ones have been saying that? I wanna see these faggots

>>15759899
You're gonna need to post links.

>>15759899
Show me them

Honestly, all the non anime boards are the ones that have no right to exist.

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>>15759936

They're just jealous of how gay we are.

>>15759907
>minions will be in /m/?
No Way (they aren't Mecha)

>>15759976
Don't act like the standards of being able to appear on /m/ are some narrow strict thing that gives meaning to the subject.
It's practically to the point where a work can be considered /m/ by virtue of having a car in it. And if there's any reason this board shouldn't exist, that is it.

We're still far more relevant and legitimate than boards like /mlp/, /jp/ and /vr/ though

>>15759899
They hate us because we are not moe-shit consumers.

>>15760057

>/jp/

This one time I went into /srwg/ because I hadn't been there in a long while. It was filled with 2hu shit, all because there was a game that played tangentially like Super Robot Wars. People just seem to think they can use our board as a dumping ground for whatever.

A common thread I see here is "I didn't get any replies on this board so I'm trying here". It's insulting to be someone's second choice, especially when they got no replies the first time.

>>15760057
Does that mean m and o needs to be merged together

Because they don't get that merging with /a/ is a terrible idea due to most anime fans hate mecha, to the point that if they do like one, they'll claim it's not mecha because they like it and it's not a Gundam clone (only mecha anime series that most of them are tangentially familiar with), see Gurren Lagann and Evangelion. It's like how /v/ thinks Dark Souls isn't a Japanese role playing game because they enjoy it and it's not a Final Fantasy clone (only Japanese RPG series that most of them are tangentially familiar with).

We pretty much need a containment board if we want to have discussion of certain series since the threads would otherwise devolve into "hurfdurf, this is a toy commercial" as if that doesn't describe 90% of anime (and a lot of media in general) to begin with.

>>15760125
/a/ aren't a bunch of retarded redditors, they're a bunch of retarded newfags riding the seasonal waves and hating anything they perceive as popular in true 4chan spirit. If they think there's an attitude that normalfags hold about mecha, they'll take the opposite stance just to be contrarian.

However, ours is a board of quite a number of more oldfags than /a/, and given that we don't have a constant 24/7 stream of content, a lot of backlog clearing goes on around here. And that's why it wouldn't work. Our culture and behaviors are too different, and so we operate best under our own environments instead of bound together in a sea of babel

>>15759899
>some random topic devolves into people saying /m/ has no right to exists
>Why does this happen so much? I've seen it happen several times.
Where are you going to /a/? Most of the time /m/ seems to be praised on other boards when it's existence is brought up in the boards I visit.

>>15759899
Probably because robots can't post on 4chan

>>15760170
r9k says hello

>>15760125
>Because they don't get that merging with /a/ is a terrible idea due to most anime fans hate mecha
Yes & No. Yes it is a terrible idea, no because that is only one side of it.

What you also failed to mention is some Super Robot series are so obscure and little known that they need the slow pace of /m/ to get any attention. On a main board like /a/ those kind of threads would die near instantly and get saged into oblivion. Furthermore for all intents and purposes /m/ is an archive for the genre of mecha, it's about the only place to find more about a lot of older series.

On the other hand I don't think you have seen when /m/ discussions do get started on /a/. They're almost always completely superior to what you actually see on /m/. Extra exposure unexpectedly sometimes draws in some pretty interesting people. I have seen some really high quality stuff on /a/ before that most don't seem to realize current /m/ ends up leeching off.

There is no doubt that there is is a influx of mentally ill egotistical shitposters combined with no moderation over the last 6 or so years is very real and has killed most activity on /m/ which is harder to pull off on the much faster /a/. But it's really all just a small part of a much larger trend of 4chan becoming too mainstream.

>>15760057
/mlp/ is the only actual containment board which does its job pulling away the most undesirable people even the basement dwellers want nothing to do with.

However /jp/ is one of those boards that legitimately could be killed off. Realistically the many Touhou related stuff do belong in other assorted music, videogame, anime and art related boards. They could generate several good generals but not enough to sustain a board.

The only threads of worth that doesn't quite fit in anywhere is the Reitaisai/Comiket threads discussion/sharing threads which have shrunk quite a lot due to mainly residing on a dead board.

The rest are just mass blue board porn dumps of no value.

>>15760186
/mlp/ is a dead board and what little content it produces could be safely moved to /trash/ without losing anything. I doubt anyone seriously gives a fuck about the show anymore

>>15760186
>Furthermore for all intents and purposes /m/ is an archive for the genre of mecha, it's about the only place to find more about a lot of older series.

This. Discussing new shows on /m/ serves no real purpose. Everything here has a twin thread on there with all the people dual-posting almost the same stuff, except /a/ also has the /a/ people in it, making the overall experience much less stale.

IMO, /m/ should get one of those board name changes and simply turn into some /fm/ - old/mecha (as in 古いメカ, to keep up the tradition of screwing over /mu/tants) with the obvious intent being focus on old shows that simply can't be discussed on /a/ like is usually the case.

>>15760160
Very good point. I've noticed a trend where faster boards despise longer posts on the grounds of them being a "waste of time" due to the speed at which discussions move. I used to think this was just because of mobile posters that don't read anything unless it has an image attached to it and is less than a paragraph, but it seems far too pervasive to just be that.
>>15760186
You're correct, I should have mentioned that. Finding info on a lot of series is pretty difficult. This is about the only place where I can find anything about Jeeg or Godmars beyond a basic description.

Regarding /m/ discussion on /a/, I think I saw a small bit of discussion of 2001 Nights on /a/ and the threads usually die in less than 10 replies since it's a manga no one really cares about. Other than that, the most I've seen are brief discussions of whatever mecha is currently airing. Do you have an example of what you mean by interesting?

>>15759899
But that's like, half of the existing boards at this point.

Doesn't matter what the board's origins are as long as it's good.

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>>15760194
>>15760186

No, no, no, no. I couldn't give a flying fuck what you want. As long as I live I will NEVER allow this garbage to happen.

/a/ is one of the most cancerous boards on 4chan filled with the most normie shit imaginable. Gee anons, it's almost like you WANT /m/ dead. No wonder you're saying that you think /a/ is superior, because you spend ALL OF YOUR TIME THERE.

Why are you even here then? Why even browse /m/ at this point? is /m/ being invaded by /a/fags now? fuck me, it never ends with people and their agendas does it?

>>15760218
But he said that he didn't want the two boards fused.

Also, if you think /a/ has the worst normalfag problem on 4chan, you need to check out /soc/ or even /vg/

>>15760191
Didn't even realize we have a /trash/ board these days, then yeah it probably belongs there that place looks like a complete pit, it's like a sister board to /b/.

>>15760202
>Do you have an example of what you mean by interesting?
I say 'interesting' because it can be anything in general from a moonspeaker dumping obscure information/interview, actual new non-repost images/webms, or just a mildly amusing meme/story.

>small bit of discussion of 2001 Nights on
If it hasn't clicked yet, usually it needs to be something tangentially related to something seasonal or very mainstream.

Recent examples being some of the Gunpla Fighters, Fafner Exodus, Kuromukuro, MJP, etc. discussions on /a/ at the time of airing. Actually generated a lot of really discussion about the series settings, translated new interview dumps. In the case of Fafner Exodus a lot of the in depth world information was siphoned from /a/'s threads and new scans appeared from old materials for the first time in like a decade. Or like Kuromukuro where /m/ basically had like 2 or 3 zombie threads throughout the whole series vs /a/ who actually had regular threads with discussions beyond just what happened in the episode.

Something like 2001 nights probably wouldn't generate as much discussion. And since you brought it up I just want to say I love all of Hoshino Yukinobu's works even though they don't do sci fi these days. Amusingly enough you know that author did a official collaboration manga with the London Natural History Museum?

>>15760226

They're fucking /a/fags who cross post. One's prattling on about "superior" discussion on /a/, the second is saying we should relegate /m/ to discussion old mecha only and make people go to /a/ for new shows.

FUCK THAT GARBAGE. I'd never have my board changed just because some /a/fags say it's a great idea.

>>15760186
>They're almost always completely superior to what you actually see on /m/.
No.

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>They're fucking /a/fags who cross post.
>FUCK THAT GARBAGE
>...

>>15760256

Meanwhile, in the reality that isn't inside your own head, you haven't actually addressed anything. Maybe try doing that instead of failing to address the garbage I pointed out.

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>>15759936
Amen.

>>15760194
>IMO, /m/ should get one of those board name changes and simply turn into some /fm/ - old/mecha (as in 古いメカ, to keep up the tradition of screwing over /mu/tants)
Isn't particularly needed, it's already what /m/ basically is, it'd just be the emperor's new clothes.

Like mentioned already all is really needed is decent moderation since you can't really change the quality of the posters, just brush off the growing mould now & again.

>>15760218
Considering the first thing said was 'terrible idea' you sure are good at overreacting.

>INSTEAD LETS REACT BY CAPS LOCKING CANCERFUCKFUCKFUCK/A/BOOGEYMAN

Being paranoid, reactionary and obnoxious on the internet isn't hard but it isn't particularly desired or needed, even if it is 2017.

I wish I could take this thread more seriously if only /m/ wasn't such the shit hole it is now, I shouldn't have to find myself going to fucking /a/ for more genuine /m/ discussion

>>15760300

I don't even disagree with the moderation shit. I just can't take people seriously when someone says /a/ is having superior discussion, and then the next guy wants to force discussion of newer mecha shows to /a/ because of his subjective experiences. I'm not saying it's going to happen, I just think it's a selfish and stupid idea that doesn't take into account that what constitutes a good discussion doesn't mean friendly.

It just has to go somewhere productive, you can be an asshole and still get a coherent point across.

Also, I'm tired. It's 7 AM.

>>15760300
>Isn't particularly needed, it's already what /m/ basically is, it'd just be the emperor's new clothes.

The board's name does wonders for the topic in it, though. People all around the site practically assume that if you're not crazy about giant robots, you have absolutely no reason in hell to even touch this place.
Which is bull, given just how much of old anime is perfectly /m/ without being obnoxious monster of the week commercials done with a budget that would make modern Indie games look like enterprise projects.

Just look at /b/ and it's extreme shift done on account of changing the name from anime/random to just random. There were never any rules to change anything, the board remained called /b/ despite not having shit all to do with Nijiura anymore and people suddenly stopped almost all anime content there.
Like, go take a peek at how the place looks like and you'll see even entertaining the thought of making an anime topic is practically out of the question. And it's exactly the same board as then, only the name has changed.

>>15760228
I'm aware of that manga existing, but I've yet to read it. Need to work on my Japanese to read more of his series in general.

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>>15760228
>Kuromukuro
>that one anon who'd copy threads word for word and claim any other threads were fake and shitpost in both
Fuck that guy.

>>15760098
I made the thread asking for the Xabungle soundtrack here after I made one on /wsr/.
/m/ was my second choice because I didn't want to make an unnecessary thread here.

>>15760236
C'mon anon, we're trying to fix the board here, no need to be angry, I mean, the spirit of brotherhood here is what makes us better than /a/.
We are a small community and we got to stick together.

>>15759907
>/m/ started out as a containment board for Gundam SEED shit posting, much like /mlp/

Please note that this is an oft reported lie, that is completely false. /m/ Was NEVER created to get Seed off of /a/. Seed aired before 4chan even existed. It's also sometimes argued that /m/ was created as a containment for Seed Destiny, which is also false. /m/ existed as a board, before SEED Destiny aired.

Stop pushing this lie that /m/ is just garbage bin for Seed posting, it's not true, and easily proved false. I don't know why you go with the line
>/m/ was created as a containment board for
gunpla, which would be much harder to disprove.

>>15759899
I've literally never seen that happen. /m/ is the only place I've seen the discussion /m/ has no right to exist. Even on boards that hate our guts like /a/, I've never seen that argument. It's funny you haven't linked it, despite being asked to several times in this thread.

Anon, may I save your tiny Yukina?

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>>15760453
All yours my friend.

>>15760451
I've seen it happen yesterday on /v/ and during the 4chan soccer cup last year just before our /mlp/ game.

>>15760117
We did have a board merging a while ago with /mo/, it was actually very chill and quite fun. Everyone was surprised by how well it worked out.

>>15760451
>gunpla, which would be much harder to disprove.

Gunpla is a /toy/ thing through and through. It only started appearing here with Gundam Build Fighters.

>Even on boards that hate our guts like /a/
I'm fairly certain most of /a/ doesn't even notice this board's existence.
It's a "I don't like you. Well, I don't care for you at all." situation. Yes, we had a rivalry back in God knows when but modern /a/ couldn't give less of a fuck even if they tried.

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>>15760463
>>15760463
>The4cc

No wonder you seen it, that does not represent what people think, you must have an opinion about all the board here, and a neutral one is not fun to brag about.

Plus /m/ team have a bit of a reputation of being arrogant. But everyone was cheering for us in the last summer cup.

>>15759936
Damn straight.

If /m/ does die, where would you go?

>>15760818
My main board would probably be /biz/ or /fit/ at that point.
If you mean to talk about /m/ shows I honestly have no idea, I'd probably just google "mecha forum" and start posting at the first result. I don't understand how people can post at reddit, only being able to post a single image in the opening, and the stupid upboat filtering system fucks with discussion way to much to be anything more than a headline site.

>>15760818
Either /fa/,/v/,/vr/, or /trv/
I'm too used to the 4chan posting format to force myself to get comfortable and familiar with another forum and at this point I'd browse this site even if /ck/ was the only board on it.

>>15760818
/co/ and /vr/
Although the former has gone to shit

>>15759899
You know what, why kill off boards that actually generate discussion? /jp/, /mlp/, whatever, at least they all actually generate discussion, regardless of good it is or how much it personally interests you/me.

What should be killed off?

Porn. The porn boards are 1/3 of the fucking boards on this """discussion""" platform, they rarely generate any kind of discussion, all they do is rapidly image dump and attract new users who are practically guaranteed to give zero shits about any other topic on 4chan, besides perhaps another porn board. Look at the disgusting fucking trash that /gif/, /soc/, /hc/, /h/, etcetera are. You have other sites. You can go to xvideos, you can go to exhentai, you don't need 4chan to watch porn. Porn boards take up by far the most space because 4chan is forced to host all their massive images and sound-enabled videos, and nearly every post in every thread on every page of every porn board is full of that shit. Porno boards are the most likely to break copyright, post underage photos, and otherwise get the site into legal trouble. The users are fucking disgusting and do nothing except give the entire site a bad name.

At least /pol/ maintains discussion. If you showed the site to a moderate average joe, they'd see /pol/ and say "what a bunch of racist nutters. not for me.", but at least you could counter that there are plenty of left wingers on /lgbt/ - so the site balances out. What would joe say if he clicked on /gif/ instead and saw five trannies trainfucking each other in a bathtub full of cum, spit, and HIV? He'd flip out. Nothing 'balances' that shit out, because it's not discussion, it's depraved bullshit.

Also: /r9k/ is not exactly a porn board but it should be fucking deleted too. It's /b/-lite and half the board is retarded trap posting, all the users should be split up and rolled into /lgbt/, /b/, reddit, and the fucking gas chambers.

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>>15760965
/d/ is great, a we even maintain /d/-tier thread here.
And how are we supposed to find that obscure sentai JAV without /t/ ?
You don't like porn, don't go to a red board and fuck off, /b/ wasn't ruined by porn, but by child who post porn, and at least /h/ don't have a rotten ideology like/pol/ which, well, post porn anyway (it was great tho).

>>15760995
>Shadman
Faggot

>>15760922
Kind of sad really, /co/ and /m/ used to be best friend boards like a decade back but I gather /co/ has actually been taken over now by some really poisonous types.

>>15760350
Most of his works have actually been translated so you're actually covered just check any of the upteen manga sites and search for his name. You'll be covered for a few weeks of reading.

>>15760818
Would probably just permanently leave.

Almost all other boards cover subjects which you can find a million other places for, just maybe with less convenience.

I've been around since /m/'s birth way back in 2004. I've seen everything which has happened during that time.

/m/ is legitimately one of the only English speaking places on the whole internet where you can consolidate what amounts to nicheception of niche hobbies that even conventions don't really cater to.

The closest other places even close would maybe be the MAHQ message board of all places? I don't even know if anything similar has popped up in this time.

But you know as much as I see many immature anon's I'd love to bludgeon round the back of the head with a heavy object it's not really an option. So I try filter out what little I can get from here and let the rest rot.

>>15760965
Off topic porn is the bigger problem than anything, /srwg/ is a good example really when you get those occasional waifu posters who can't even pull their hand out of their pants long enough to type anything to go with their image dump.

It really is true nobody can defeat the dick.

>>15761010
>/m/ is legitimately one of the only English speaking places on the whole internet where you can consolidate what amounts to nicheception of niche hobbies that even conventions don't really cater to
I remember hearing about some anon who went to some anime convention to host some mecha event and they had a quiz at some point, two of the questions were never answered, the first one was showing a picture of nono in her buster machine form and just asked "what anime is this character from". All of the answers were either TTGL or or FLCL and even though it was public answers people repeatedly said TTGL despite the other people getting it wrong.
The second was they played Totsugeki Love Heart out loud and asked what it was from, and again no one could answer it.
I get knowing a specific macross song would be impossible for basically anyone who wasn't a fan, but the fact that an entire room of people, at a convention for """enthusiasts""" couldn't identify the main character from the sequel to one of the most well known /m/ OVAs boggles my mind.

>>15759936
well they are the only reason why this site isnt dead yet

>>15759899
I haven't seen that happen but they're obviously newfaggots that haven't tried to post Gundam on /a/ or Evangelion on /m/. There's a palpable difference in the userbases. Just call them on their shit and ignore them.

>>15759899
well, /m/ is known for being delusional retards on /k/ topics with a general lack of understanding of how reality works while being real fucking loud about it.
(you) guys have also earned a reputation of being fedora tier with the constant "I only like mature gritty manly story about underdog grunt who kills people and isn't afraid of anything I also like blood and gore and absolutely hate anime girls" blabbing within or outside of /m/

>>15761234
I think it's really the second part that's the core problem /m/ has right now. Nearly every large thread is dominated by people shitting on whatever the topic of discussion is or getting baited by obvious trolls. This is a problem damn near anywhere on 4chan, but /m/ has a much nastier case of it now than it did a few years ago.

>>15761482
first, >>15761234 is bait
second, it goes with the territory of niche hobbies. It makes easy target

ANN ruined the board when they did a two year masturbation routine woth felcher gundam.

>>15760117
Yes. /mo/ was great.

>>15761614
So was /cocl/
So was /mlpol/ for everyone else who didn't go on either board

>>15760818
Eh, I'd stick around on 4chan for /tg/. I really do want to make a mecha tabletop system or a CYOA. I think that would be something fun. No real good place, aside from here that I've seen, what makes mecha a focus.

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>>15761608
Felcher-kun, I'll be honest. You are my favorite autist these days. You actually inspired me to watch Iron Blooded Orphans, show it to my mom, buy a Barbatos, and sing a cover of Shounen no Hate. Congratulations on being the poster with the most personality to show for a while.

>>15760818
A few years ago, I got lucky and managed to post about mecha with some guys on an AMV site of all things. Maybe I could strike gold and find discussion on GameFAQs since I think one of the guys I used to talk to goes there, or at least used to and Gfaqs at least has some alright SRW discussions anyway.

>>15761623
>So was /mlpol/ for everyone else who didn't go on either board

Not really, /mlp/ loved the crap out of it.

>>15760818
/vr/, discord or, like that anon said, GameFAQs, since some of the users are pretty shill.

If /m/ merged with /a/ they would want us out again within five minutes.

>>15761737
if /m/ merged with /a/ would that mean toku goes into /a/ also then

>>15761737
/m/ threads wouldn't even last more than 10 minutes.

>>15761739
Is toku /a/ ?

>>15761745
Well, is toku /m/?

>>15761745
The odd Gundam, Patlabor or Macross thread would survive, especially if something is/was airing.
But for smaller franchises like the braves/xabungle/dougram/VOTOMS the thread would be dead within an hour.

>>15760409
sace?

Deleting boards is almost never a good idea because that just burst the piss balloon and spill the stank everywhere
Nor is moving topics from one board to another because just look at /asp/

>>15761763
Read the post.

>>15761739

exactly , /m/ isn't all mecha anime , there's a whole spectrum of varied topics that are /m/ related

>>15761779
>toasters are now /a/

>>15759899
>go to another board
There's your problem right there.
Why would you even want to do that?

>>15761772
So what solution would you propose?

>>15761801
Keep the boards as it
If something really need containment, like if, I dunno, MCU become too much shitposting, create a new board for it and drive everyone else off

>>15760492
I'm not arguing that Gunpla doesn't have a place in /toy/, they even have an arguably better general if you only want discussion on the models themselves.

But Gunpla threads have been in /m/ at least on a marginal level since /m/ existed which was years before /toy/.

>>15760186
>They're almost always completely superior to what you actually see on /m/
Like when /co/ has an /a/ thread?

>>15760818
/m/ is the only board I still use on 4chan so... dunno.

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>>15761783

No0o0ooo0o !! curse those /a/ fags

>>15761482
4chan has always been about trying to be the biggest contrarian cunt in the room but yes, the smaller boards like /m/ didn't used to have it this bad.

I think it's become a symptom of the Internet at large these days. A lot of forums I post at that used to be full of actual discussion have started degrading into constant shit-flinging as well. Everyone in the world is pissed off right now and taking it out on everyone else.

>>15761837
>4chan has always been about trying to be the biggest contrarian cunt in the room but yes, the smaller boards like /m/ didn't used to have it this bad.

Uh, as opposed to what? being the biggest conformist in the room? lol

>>15761844
Because you can only be two extremes.

>>15761852

"Contrarian" is such a laughable concept in the first place. It's only used when somebody sees something being criticized that's widely popular and they want to slap a label on them. When in reality, They probably have unpopular opinions as well.

>>15761870
I don't actually disagree with that, I'm just not sure of a better way to phrase it.

>>15761878

I don't think /m/ is contrarian, I just think we're very controversial and outside the realm of normal anime discussion. Besides all of the dumb shit that gets posted here, I really don't care about the intense arguing because it's still an exchange of ideas. I prefer /m/ because it's controversial, rather than totally safe opinions everyone's had about anime.

>>15761813
A show needs a dub for /co/ to care about it. That greatly hampers what we can get out of it.

>>15761704
>Fate/shit

/y/ning disregarded.

>>15761894
>I just think we're very controversial and outside the realm of normal anime discussion
How so? Other than TTGL and maybe IBO having a visible presence of neutral to poor reception most of the things /m/ generally likes are generally liked outside by the five people who've seen them.

>>15761906
I am not a gay. I just find that picture hilarious for some unexplained reason.

>>15761910

It probably has more to do with the attitude of the board rather than opinions. I think TTGL would be a deal-breaker right of the gate though in most (normie) anime discussions. I honestly used to like Gurren Lagann when I was younger, but I just kind of find it really boring now.

>>15761910
That's the issue. Many will claim that those things that are liked by 5 guys are better than most other highly regarded anime.

Myself personally, I consider Mazinkaiser to be a more enjoyable watch than something like Attack on Titan, for example. Not really a shocking opinion, I guess, but imagine if I just outright said "this spinoff of a show you've probably never heard of unless you're 30+ and from the Philippines, Italy, France, or Latin America, is better than this show that everyone likes at the moment" on a site like ANN or Myanimelist. They'd probably think it's a weird choice to bring up as better than the more popular show when I could just go the tried and true route of some show that's often praised as a "best anime ever" like Cowboy Bebop that more people have actually watched. Additionally, they'd likely call it a bait opinion if they aren't familiar with the title.

I own a figure of Lal'c, but really no other anime figures. Imagine if I outright said "I own this figure of this character from an OVA not many modern anime fans have watched because it's worth more to me than your flavor of the month waifu." Perhaps that's a bit more inflammatory than I'd normally phrase it, but they'd probably at least be confused. When I used to talk to people about anime in book stores or wherever, I'd get a bunch of odd looks and questions like "you've seen these 30 shitty shows from the 70s we've never heard of, but you never finished Naruto or One Piece?"

>>15761130
That's awful.
This cursed webzone needs to end.

>>15761937
>>15761910
TTGL alone is a goood enough example since it used to be loved here when it was airing, but is now guaranteed shitpost material. I get that some people here have actual reasons for hating it, but I'm honestly convinced that a large amount of the dislike for it comes from its popularity leading to its fanbase getting filled with lots of underage idiots that don't even understand what it was supposed to be or any of the references, ala Jojo's Bizarre Adventure after it got a new anime.

>>15761942
>I'd get a bunch of odd looks and questions like "you've seen these 30 shitty shows from the 70s we've never heard of, but you never finished Naruto or One Piece?"

Are you me?

Are you a future version or from an alternate dimension? Should I be worried you're coming to kill and replace me?

>>15761970
Wouldn't that also keep us out of the internet?

>>15761942
>but you never finished Naruto or One Piece?
>or One Piece?
Well, I doubt whoever said that to you did it either.

>>15761953
I remember when it was airing there was a lot of near-autistic frustration that the normies watching didn't get all of the references and influences and were calling it the best mecha anime and the rebirth of the super robot genre by people who thought Gundam came out and there were never any super robots ever again until TTGL.

I feel like this sort of festered into hatred that /m/ never got over.

But it also lead to people coming in and asking for shows like TTGL and we could point them in the direction which was theoretically a positive thing though people also got frustrated by this brief influx into our clubhouse. Incidentally this was around the time many of those "mecha anime worth watching" images were made.

>>15761984
At least we won't have any more shitposters

>>15761942
Or Bleach, or Death note.
I sometimes talk with my friends about anime, every time I start talking about a show from the 80s or the 70s, someone has to interrupt me just to start talking about one of those popular shows. Because "every old anime either hasn't aged well or is just plain boring"

>>15762018
It was around the late 2000's when I realized I was utterly out of touch with the general anime fandom.

The other day I heard someone say that animation before the early 2000's is unwatchably dated. I usually don't give a shit about other people's taste but I wanted to flip a table.

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I still think part of the reason shitty shitposting took off so much, was because of moot getting rid of the public (User was banned for this post)

If we had a good mod, just nailing some of the more prevalent shitposters to the cross would help the board out.

>>15762040

I saw a thread today that was about obama that got posted here and it was 404'd minutes later.

>>15762039
I know that feel, there was a time when I tried so hard to fit in by watching some of the popular anime, hell, I hated each one of them. I stopped watching anime for a while, until I discovered mecha.

>>15761982
This is actually a very common occurrence, depending on a person's tastes in, well any media, but especially anime. At least in America, you can find cult films like Eraserhead and even some arthouse cinema at random on something like Netflix, but finding fansubs implies you're going out of your way to look up some anime on a website. I actually found some anime I ended up liking through BakaBT's random button and randomly browsing Wikipedia several years ago, but these situations are not as common or easy to setup as a legal streaming service. I guess Crunchyroll is like that for anime but it still doesn't exactly have every anime ever made, so that still leads to issues. Can't believe even a show like Kaiji took forever to get picked up.
>>15761988
Meant to type "watched" rather than finished, but you get the idea.
>>15762018
I've convinced some of my friends to view older series, but some are pretty tough sells. On one hand, I'm happy that Devilman is getting a new anime since I can finally convince people that don't normally read manga to look into it. On the other, I'm still a bit sad that it takes a whole new anime to get the average fan to care about a series now. And like I said before, this problem isn't even unique to anime, as I've tried to discuss shows or games that are just 10-20 years old and a lot of my friends haven't seen them. I recall Oz and the Sopranos being pretty big deals at the time they aired, but I know only one guy that has seen either. Deus Ex frequently gets on top 10 lists, but most people I know have only played Human Revolution and Mankind Divided. At this rate, I'm convinced even Breaking Bad will be considered an obscure cult hit in a year or two, much like how even Lucky Star and Haruhi are considered "old" anime now.

>>15762072
>And like I said before, this problem isn't even unique to anime, as I've tried to discuss shows or games that are just 10-20 years old and a lot of my friends haven't seen them. I recall Oz and the Sopranos being pretty big deals at the time they aired, but I know only one guy that has seen either. Deus Ex frequently gets on top 10 lists, but most people I know have only played Human Revolution and Mankind Divided. At this rate, I'm convinced even Breaking Bad will be considered an obscure cult hit in a year or two, much like how even Lucky Star and Haruhi are considered "old" anime now.

I think a lot of it comes down to being part of a culture that's constantly inundated with new media while already having built up a massive backlog of entertainment. There are only so many hours in a day and most people are going to choose to consume the newest things that everyone else is talking about. People like us who pick a niche they enjoy and explore it deeper are in the minority for obvious reasons like that.

Unless something is influential enough to remain relevant, even if only on an academic level, it's doomed to eventual obscurity.

>>15760463
cup scrubs are just jealous of our two babbys and continual elite ranking

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>>15762072
>much like how even Lucky Star and Haruhi are considered "old" anime now.
No way. No FUCKING way. Please tell me this is a lie.

Am I becoming old?

>>15762162
LS and Haruhi are both 10+ years anime-wise and their source material came out in 2003.

>>15762162
Just crawl into the coffin now it's not going to get any better.

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>>15762162
Don't worry anon, you are not alone.

>>15762162
I don't understand why we still have site banners for them, along with Aria The Animation. All of them are like 10 years old and no one talks about them anymore

>>15760226
>/soc/
Holy shit don't ever go there it is literally filled with pictures of dicks and normies who don't even browse any of the other boards and are just looking for sex

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>>15761894
>Besides all of the dumb shit that gets posted here, I really don't care about the intense arguing because it's still an exchange of ideas.

See, the thing is, while that's good in general, the problem is that most of the time people don't properly argue about their goddamn opinions.

If someone makes a thread about "what do you think about X", you won't get a bunch of posts about people going into detail about what they thought about it, what they liked, what they didn't like, and that sort of thing. You get people sniping each other for posting their opinions and in general not saying very much, and it tends to get significantly more negative as the thread goes on (pic sort of related, though I'm pretty sure that was some people having fun, as are most of the similar ones I've capped over time.). And woe betide you if the thread is about a Gundam, Mazinger, Getter, anything that was at one point notably popular, or one of the many shows that attract trolls like flies (you know, like what GxS used to do, Ryu Knight does intermittently, and Active Raid and Kuromukuro and their ilk get now) because you probably won't make it past twenty posts before your thread is totally off the rails.

If people were willing to have actual debates this forum would be a lot better, but there's too much anger, too many trolls, and too few people willing to dial it all back.

>>15762769
Honestly, going to boards with people like that can be funny. All it takes is the posting of an anime reaction picture to get them riled up since most of them despise anime of any sort and only come to 4chan because they're too stupid to not get banned from regular hookup sites that require a signup. I literally just posted the "I came here to laugh at you" picture in a normalfag infested general once and a guy started ranting about how anime was so shit that no one unironically liked it and that everyone just pirated everything, including me. I posted a picture of my collection, then he changed his argument to be about how I was far too old to own those many manga volumes and DVDs past the age of 12 since he couldn't handle being incorrect.

>>15762040
>Thinking public bans never happen.
They still happen, but the thread then becomes about the ban which destroys the it in the end.


The real problem with /m/ is it's become a catch all dumpster that doesn't have any sort resistant mechanisms against belligerents bringing their shit here even if it's only tertiary related to mecha. It's also managed to pick up the cancerous habits of other boards like generals. Jesus Christ, while FAG is /m/ and amusing, it does not need a general, this board is slow enough that the threads will survive on their own and you don't need a bloody guide.

The only surviving grace of /m/ is that truly cancerous memes like pepe and wojack have not gained a major foothold here.

Could /m/ be shut down and all the threads be shunted to different boards? Absolutely. All all the anime threads go to /a/, all the anime related generals get banished to /c/ because /a/ doesn't tolerate generals. Bugshit goes to /tv/ where they should be to begin with, that once in a blue moon thread that asks if tanks are /m/ returns to /k/, Warhammer and mechwarrior is rebanished to /tg/ ect. ect. ect.

Should it happen? No. Like 4chan as a whole. This place is an unsalvageable shithole, but it's our shithole.

what are good sites to discuss /m/ shit?

of course, not this board.

>>15763323
if you're an autistic neckbeard that spergs over armchair theory and specs, go to mechatalk

>>15761234
Well, the second part is true about /m/ anyways. The only ones who seem to like anything lighthearted or fun are tokufags, and they like 3DPD so their opinion doesn't matter for much.

>>15763271
For once I agree with BK. Is there something wrong with me?

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>>15760818
Hide on /d/. Never emerge.

>>15763345
No, the owner of Mecha Talk is notorious for having serious rage issues and the place is very hveminded.

>>15763345
MAHQ is partially responsible for our state. Thy banned a guy back in 2013, he took it out on /m/, he never stopped, and ragers were inspired by him to mess up the board.

>>15760433
Yeah but that small community also makes this place way too similar to just a regular forum

>>15760818
/tg/, I spend more time there than here anyway. /his/ too I guess

>>15762018
>or Death note
That's the one, right there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTh3XZREVvQ

The one show that encapsulates it all

>>15762040
>I still think part of the reason shitty shitposting took off so much, was because of moot getting rid of the public (User was banned for this post)
Unless you lewd Yotasuba, then it's done out of principle.

>>15760879

/fit/

Just that board at this point. I hate /sp/ now.

>>15763271
>but the thread then becomes about the ban which destroys the it in the end.
But that's always been the point. The whole thread making a hard shift into AWWWWWWWWWWWW NIGGA GOT SERVED is 4chan tradition

>>15762875
I think that's just a direct result of bad OP posts. If you want to have some detailed discussion, you have to invite it, not just put forth a topic and let people say whatever the fuck they want about it

>>15761010
>/m/ is legitimately one of the only English speaking places on the whole internet where you can consolidate what amounts to nicheception of niche hobbies that even conventions don't really cater to.

It's true. I don't like the way /m/ is drowned in shitposting, I arguably don't even like some aspects of how the site is set up. The thing is, there's no alternative. /m/ is, as you say, uniquely devoted to all things giant robot, something that no other discussion board seems to be able to pull off with any amount of traffic. The only viable alternatives are or were spawned off of /m/; things like mechachan, eternitychan, and 8/m/ come to mind.

Mechatalk is basically a 100% Gundam board where non-Gundam posts are made probably less than once a week. Other mecha boards like the one on reddit have zero traffic and no discussion beyond games, news announcements and the like.

It's strange when you think about it, because mecha has been considered a genre of anime, video game, and general scifi for a while now. Some people must be into it outside of /m/, but apparently not enough to form a similar community.

>>15764253
There's really no community quite like this. Despite all its shitposting and rage nowadays, on essentially no other board or forum I know of would one be able to go from Gundam to LoGH to Kamen Rider to VOTOMs to Bolo to Asimov within the space of a few threads, if not even just one on occasion. It's a heck of a place on its own.

>>15761807
>>15761772
Fuck you. Containment boards are among the top reasons why discussions are such shit on all the large boards. The creation of the containment boards basically killed variety in conversation and userbase, as well as sending users who enjoy the topic of containment, a death sentence.
No longer can they just discuss the topic in the major board, they have to participate in the shithole that is the containment boards.

Frankly there was never a need for containment, only better and more blunt moderation. Hire a few more mods and janitors. They fucking do it for free.

If the containment boards were suddenly destroyed, things would be shitty for a little while before people either managed to reintegrate into the major boards, got banned, or simply left for another chan.

>>15764343
People who shitpost here don't realise how fortunate we are to have a place like this.

>>15764222
I agree with you. I've personally made quite a few threads that started with "good" OP posts and they had next to no shitposting - which I find impressive given that they were about toku.

>>15764222
That's a fair point.

>>15763271
>They still happen, but the thread then becomes about the ban which destroys the it in the end.

That's no different from gets. It's just part of 4chan culture. Hell there's a massive get on /a/ right now

>>15760409
Oh man poor Kuromukuro, it got shafted so fucking hard here. I remember those god awful threads.

All for an average show.

>>15764577
Link ?

>>15759936
/tg/ says fuck you!!

/m/ needs more Insane Clown Posse, invite juggalos!

>>15765044
sounds logcal

>>15765044
if ICP makes robot shows as good as they make wrassle shows I'm all for it

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>>15760818
Outside, probably. You guys are all I have left. /o/ is dead and buried, the corpse just is still releasing noxious fumes.

>>15763271
Public bans show something is not ok. People are too stupid now to realize that from the post itself, so they must learn from the message.

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>>15765112
Damn, anon.

>>15760818

Drop my trip and go to /tg/ or /k/

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The real question is where would the sentai threads go? I don't even like it myself but those fuckers have to have a home somewhere.

>>15765293
Back to /jp/ or /tv/ where you fags belong in the first place.

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>>15765298
>/jp/
Fuck no! They're not welcome there after they tried to flood the board with kamen rider and godzilla and incited meido's wrath by shitposting instead of acting like good kids.
Send them back to /tv/ if you really have to.

>>15765386
/jp/ is mostly discussion-free dumps disguised as generals anyway. I've asked about the meaning of the planning genre in the JAV general several times, but to no avail. Hell, I made a thread about 403 Forbiddena's new album and no one cared at all. I remember when they were at least of meme status on 4chan, but now, nothing.

>>15765434
>W-w-w-w-we didn't even want to post our shit there anyway
The post.

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>>15765386
>>15765448

>2hu pic
>implying 2hufags don't leak their garbage outside of their containment board >>15760098

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>>15765465
At least we HAVE a board tokufag.

>>15765448
That's not really what I was implying at all. Rather, I meant that I like the concept of /jp/, but when I try to make actual discussions on there, they go unnoticed. Even my Japanese pen-pal thread eventually devolved into a bunch of guys asking if they could beg Japanese girls to have sex with them rather than anything relevant to the topic of practicing your Japanese skills with a friend as part of a language exchange. The bit about the JAV question in my previous post was there to highlight the hilarity of how even a sexual question related to the topic of the general couldn't be answered in its own general. Meanwhile, any thread not centering around lonely guys looking for Japanese girlfriends in some way die very quickly. What I'm trying to say is, "How can you flood a board that's already devoid of substance?" Only the onahole general has been remotely useful for me, and even then, that's mostly because of the opening pastebin. At this point. /jp/ is almost as bad as most of /vg/.

>>15765005

It's gone now. Here's the archive
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/160836400/#160888888

That's like the 8th GET she's gotten

>>15759899
/m/ is to /a/ as /vr/ is to /v/

>>15765536
filled with goons from SA?

>>15765522
Chain gets are kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. It only takes one big get before a bunch of people say "check these trips" and in a fast enough board, statistically a non-insignificant number of them will actually achieve it.

>>15760218
>/a/ is one of the most cancerous boards on 4chan filled with the most normie shit imaginable. Gee anons, it's almost like you WANT /m/ dead. No wonder you're saying that you think /a/ is superior, because you spend ALL OF YOUR TIME THERE.
>he says as he uses normie instead of normalfag
>he says as he writes in caps
Do you honestly think /m/ is any better than /a/ in that aspect? It needs to get sanitized from underage posters like you.

>>15765596

Wow anon, I used words you don't like. Let me get out the tiny violin that I keep around here somewhere. You wanna try again, maybe post something resembling a counter-argument that addresses my points?

>>15765599
Maybe you should read my question again instead of crying about your hurt feelings.

>>15765601

You're the only one crying about hurt feelings you laughable incoherent sperg. Do I think that /m/ is better than /a/ in regards to normies? uh, yes considering that all /a/ ever wants to talk about is the most mainstream mediocre garbage. How could you even suggest something so retarded as /m/ being normie?

The closest thing coming to normies are the faggots who post on /krg/, and we keep them in that thread for a reason.

>>15765608
Which part of my post was incoherent? Are you trying to use "big words" to sound more threatening whie misunderstanding their meaning? You are the perfect example of immaturity I dislike about /m/, even though once in a blue moon I read some wonderful posts here.

>Go to another board
Kill yourself cancer

>>15765611

I'll wait for a relevant reply from you. Here's a repost

>Do I think that /m/ is better than /a/ in regards to normies? uh, yes considering that all /a/ ever wants to talk about is the most mainstream mediocre garbage. How could you even suggest something so retarded as /m/ being normie?

The closest thing coming to normies are the faggots who post on /krg/, and we keep them in that thread for a reason.

>>15759899
People are retarded that's it really, usually when someone say /board/ shouldn't exist they are butthurt about topic at hand not the board itself because they never went there in the first place, there is also 4cc generating butthurt like this cup shitposting central /sp/ get fucked and now they blame everyone for it. Also anyone claiming this on /a/ is just newfag who watched ttgl and is butthurt he can't "discuss" it here.

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>>15759899
/m/ is only fun when it comes to discussing older anime. If I want to have a civil conversation about any gundam or modern mecha series I'm more likely to find it on /a/, here I keep running into triggered ESLs using capslock. Then there's the whole thing with spammers, samefags, notorious autists like felcherfag.There's also too much spoonfeeding and people unironically using paid streaming sites.

>>15763271
Public bans have helped when it comes to /m/ because to be quite frank most average posters aren't very astute.

A little random history but most don't seem to realize /m/ has existed since early 2004 largely unnoticed and 4chan only even existed at the end of 2003. /m/ has existed since the foundation of the current 4chan so it's here to stay.

>>15760098
Seriously, 2hu is not even remotely worth getting your feathers in a ruffle about. If anything technical discussion about a SRW-like game which people actually enjoy in a SRW thread is far more on topic. A bit of tolerance will do you well.

/srwg/ has had far more problems with single line meme/video link spammers and FE/Fate gacha shit who don't even offer any discussion. Combined with the series being seemingly dead in the water right now with a mainline game only being released half a year ago and nobody caring about it.

>>15765666
>he thinks felcherfag is autistc
No, you have autism tourettes.

>>15760818
>these responses
Now I finally understand why so many people in Gundam threads thinks that most Gundam shows are actually good. None of you people watch anything but mecha shows.

>>15767659
Oh fuck off, the boards or websites we visit don't have anything to do with our taste.
And stop posting the same comment on every thread, all you're doing is showing how much of a faggot you really are.

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>>15767659
I watch all kinds of shows. The problem is that the average anime fan hates any hint of mecha for nonsensical, arbitrary reasons (dude, mecha sucks, it's entirely unrealistic, now let me get back to watching this show about a psychic teenage girl that can talk to god and has natural triple Z cup tits), so it's way harder to find places to discuss it. I already have friends to discuss other types of media with. I recently had a discussion with a close friend of mine about the value of Shamo weighed against its flaws throughout its entire run that were largely related to the writer and artist having a falling out. This is already hard enough to do on sites with the crunchyroll watching, popcorn eating casual fans that just pick up any show because its the flavor of the month since they don't even think about things such as the significance of themes in something like Fullmetal Alchemist or One Punch Man. They either just look at the fights, take a parody of a genre they're not really familiar with at face value, or think a show is deep because it discusses some philosophy they surface level comprehension of, not understanding the true meaning behind it, if there's any at all. Do you really think I'm going to visit MAL, Anime Planet, or some other site full of actual children to discuss my dank Mazinger clones that are probably twice or thrice as old as the average poster on there? I barely like using those sites to discuss current shows, as, again, these people don't know/care about any of the literary themes behind a work and can't think beyond DUDE, EPIC FIGHTS, MY WAIFU, NOTICE ME SENPAI XD, LMAO tier """"analysis"""". This is also why I don't go to /v/ anymore. Average poster age has gone far down, to the point where people are confused by games like Ikaruga existing. Even here, people will often have a poor understanding a series they pretend to be an expert on , but at least they'll actually try.
If this was bait, congratulations, Mr. Angler.

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>>15765828
>>15765124
>>15764577
>>15763696
The problem is they can inadvertently derail the thread if it's a public ban of a shitposter within said thread. In the old days you used to see public bans done like that and the thread would go down in flames. So of course that means the only time a public ban is practical is if it's the OP of the thread that's shitposting in order to publicly lynch him and display his body to the masses as they piss on his grave.

Or just responding to expose samefagging like the old days.

As for GETs, that's just a natural part of the community and if your thread has a major GET, well, you should feel honored. Personally I think the removal of doubles on more active boards like /v/ was a mistake because even if it was double edge sword vigilantism, it allowed a certain level of self moderation for the community to shit up shitpost threads since of course reporting is worthless and someone will always be retarded enough to take the bait. And the most important part was no other board or website could steal it like everything else because the posting system on 4chan is unique from other message boards.

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Another reason things have really gone to shit is the moderators and zero oversight. Like when you had a mod go full tyrant on /sp/. but still let the larger shitposter run free. moot personally stepped in, publicly fired the mod and single handedly fixed the major issues.

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He then sticks around to listen to feedback and mentions how the mods hate /sp/'s guts because they can't handle the bants that /sp/ dishes out. It was the board that 'They do it for free' came from

>>15759899
>go to /v/
>when it isn't a mecha is real or vs tank thing it's comfy to talk about games
Pretty shocked as well.

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Now if you're expecting Hiro to step in and fix things. It'll never happen. Hiro is just here to make money off the site, and keeping the userbase happy only matters if he can datamine info off you to sell or have you be stupid enough to buy a 4chan pass (to which he'll sell your credit card info too.) And if he feels he's not getting enough money, he'll pop up to say 4chan maintenance costs are to expensive and he'll have to shut down the board again like he did early on turning boards against each other The fallacy that low traffic, high image boards take up more bandwidth than high traffic boards was rather popular.

It's also part of the reason he and the mods will never crack down on phone shitposting. Hiro is hosting a plethora of ads that contain malware which mainly target smartphones, so the more phone posters who come to 4chan, the more will get infected, the happier the people hosting the ads are. It's vicious cycle to say the least.

As for the mods, they have the same contempt for the rest of 4chan as they did with /sp/ back in 2011. The last mod that tried to fix things was ModCat, and he was immediately fired after /pol/ launched a massive smear campaign against him when he tried to stop one of their raids. And of course the mods look the other way at everything /pol/ does because it brings in that needed traffic of idiots who get infected by the malware ads.


These are terrible times...

>>15768007
>The problem is that the average anime fan hates any hint of mecha
I dont really see what that has to do with my post. All I said was that, by the looks of the responses, not a single one is actually interested in the medium beyond /m/. Now I realize that its a small sample, and that people might simply not like /a/ (which I can fully understand), but if of all those people who watch mecha anime not a single one would migrate to /a/ rather than /v/ or /fit/ then that is pretty in line with what I've expected people on this board to be like for a long, long time.

>>15768057
>>15768043
>>15768039
The worst part of this compilation is that you criticise someone for trying to make money off of something that costs money. What do you think this is? A charity? That all a website owner is entitled to is to break even? Actually, let me correct myself. The worst part is that you had to end that post by getting the /pol/ boogeyman involved. It completely invalidates everything you say. Wish you had written that in your first sentence so I could have skipped the rest, not the other way round.

>>15768505
What I meant by that part was "I would go somewhere like MAHQ or the Gamefaqs SRW boards to discuss /m/ stuff since I couldn't do it anywhere else," but I guess I should have specified that. I was not implying that this was the only place I had to discuss anime in general, just that I had places for that already, but /m/ filled a niche that's difficult to fill on other anime discussion sites.


You are correct about /a/, though. In my eyes, they are a small step above mainstream anime discussion sites. The kind of people that will have their lists of "deep" anime they skimmed on wikipedia but never actually talk about prepared just in case anyone calls out their shit tastes based on what they usually discuss.

>>15765666
>There's also too much spoonfeeding
Why is this a problem? The entire reason that /a/ is full of fucking shit taste is because they don't spoonfeed and encourage newfags to watch whatever googling ANN top 10 lists tells them to watch. And then they have the gall to wonder why their board is so cancerous.

>>15768704
Damn, there is someone else who gets /a/'s biggest problem. I am surprised. The boards quality goes down by the hour because people just tell newfags to piss off to /wsr/ instead of just telling them what is and isnt good. They trade post and board quality just so they can "preserve their board culture". Pretty fucking sad if all thats left of your boards culture is to tell people to not spoonfeed. This issue could easily be solved by having a sticky, but I guess thats too much to ask.

>>15760492
>Gunpla is a /toy/ thing through and through. It only started appearing here with Gundam Build Fighters.

Are you out of your mind?
2004. 2004. That's the earliest recorded year that /m/ existed. Way before fucking /toy/.

One of the few stories about the origin of /m/ that sounds plausible is a bunch of oldfags constantly spammed /a/ with Gunpla until moot made /m/. And even that take has no evidence.

It's strange that people don't realize how fucking old /m/ is as a board. It predates many of the boards people claim we stole shit from.

>>15760818
the /m/ Dorkly runs.

>>15768716
People who're too stupid to fucking google "/a/ anime recs" deserve to get told off.

>>15768769
And a board too stupid to directly control how people get into its subject deserves to be as shit as /a/

>>15768716
"If you give a man a fish..." describes the situation, at least on paper. Nothing more obnoxious than someone who can't think for themselves and research their own tastes... well, save for someone who imposes their own taste on others.

The actual issue with /a/ is one that actually defines a lot of 4chan, the need to fit in and be part of something big. It manifests in /a/ through the phenomenon of people watching things not because it interests them so much as because other people are watching it, creating a group watch atmosphere where everyone swarms into their threads and shitposts about stuff. We're at the point that the general thread paradigm has to be implemented to prevent board level takeovers of subjects.

Incidentally, this is where you also see the /a/-endemic compulsion of hunting for the seasonal "trainwreck," but in there lies a point where /a/ actually does spoonfeed people, just to establish a consensus: that arbitrarily chosen show X is shit because it's shit and everyone is here to laugh at it.

Really, on /a/'s good days when you peel away the cancer there is good discussion on things, sometimes even things you'll probably never even heard of before then, but it's piled under a heap of superficiality and casual bullshit either meant to deter those unwilling to put effort into finding nuggets of quality from staying, or symptomatic of a greater problem. Probably both.

You can call this board culture, but it's just as much an adaptation to counteract /a/ being by far one of the most mainstream popular boards. Much like how /v/ is a shitpost engine where content competes in a form of survival of the most clickbait post, or how /pol/ is... well, /pol/.

/m/ has the benefit of being too backwater to even be on the axis of thought needed to comprehend that sort of problem, but at the same time it has resulted in a very obvious case of visiting posters applying the cultural norms of other boards to here where it's largely unneeded.

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>>15768787
Where were you when le anonymous legion became a conformity instead of a blobbing mess of individuality

>>15768792
Nigger you what now?

>>15768777
/a/ is still the best major board by a long shot.

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>>15768798
I had a brain fart

>>15768769
Like I said, you sacrifice board quality for "board culture" (the claim that this is board culture is a joke in itself). Which is the dumbest shit you could possibly pull.

>>15768787
>when you peel away the cancer there is good discussion on things
Go ahead. Go to /a/ right now and show me an example. There is no actual, meaningful discussion on /a/. If you actually discuss things you are being called autistic. Seasonal threads are enjoyable up until e4, then theyll get swarmed by shitposters because theyve dropped most other series'. And up to e4 its usually just a gigantic circlejerk. People are also unable to ever acknowledge criticism targetted at their favourite works, prime example being LotGH. No idea what meaningful discussion about shows people have never heard of youre referring to, but I have a hard time comprehending what it is you could possibly mean. Pre 00 shows are hardly brought up on /a/ and if they are its usually the really popular ones that everybody knows (or its straight up MIyazaki movies).

>Nothing more obnoxious than someone who can't think for themselves and research their own tastes
Pretty sure that a board full of mentally handicapped retards who are under the impression that sacrificing post and debate quality for "muh elitism" is a million times more obnoxious than anything else. I might have watched almost a thousand shows and no lifed this medium for the last 2 years but that doesnt mean that this is something thats to be expected from people. I also cant comprehend how you could POSSIBLY think that spoonfeeding is obnoxious when Dragonball Super generals and its respective spam are a thing. You dont seem to have a very logical definition of the term. Seems to all bottle down to "board culture" and "we do it because thats /a/ lol". Completely fucking retarded if you ask me. Shit posting can be good, but what you see on /a/ definitely is not.

>>15768522
>It's not wrong to datamine users, run malware ads and lie that 4chan maintenance costs are to expensive in order to sell more passes and then immediately add a board in the middle of it.
You're an idiot to try and justify Hiro's actions. Especially when he first tried to pull this right after he took over and said moot he made sure there was enough ad revenue (from legitimate sites) where 4chan was self sufficient.
Anything for a profit eh?

>Trying to justify Modcat being fired by resorting to '/pol/ boogyman' when he was banning people for violating GR4.
And morally bankrupt too.

>>15768787
>"If you give a man a fish..." describes the situation, at least on paper. Nothing more obnoxious than someone who can't think for themselves and research their own tastes
This blows up any claim that spoon feeding is bad. If you're so intellectually lazy that you cannot look up the name of the series with the large amount of tools available, odds are you're going to be stupid enough to be influenced by terrible sites like ANN anyway even if you're spoonfed.

>>15768787
>"If you give a man a fish..." describes the situation, at least on paper
It really doesn't. I spent enough time on /a/ to learn that likely the majority of the rec threads there are just shitposters who know that /a/ gets triggered by rec threads.

>>15768806
Hell no. The best major board is /pol/ because at least actual discussion is had there rather than the unending search for the best fapbait material, or constant e-celeb/console wars garbage.

>>15768034
>So of course that means the only time a public ban is practical is if it's the OP of the thread that's shitposting in order to publicly lynch him and display his body to the masses as they piss on his grave.

Or if a poster lewded Yotsuba. That cannot be tolerated.

>>15768819
I can't believe someone is defending spoonfeeding. So this is the level /m/ has dropped down to, huh?

>>15768840
So you just admitted that rec/spoonfeeding threads are just shitposts?
>The best major board is /pol/ because at least actual discussion is had there rather than the unending search for the best fapbait material, or constant e-celeb/console wars garbage.
Are you mistaking /a/ for /v/?

>>15768819
>Go ahead. Go to /a/ right now and show me an example. There is no actual, meaningful discussion on /a/.
I'm looking at the catalogue right now and I can count at least 20 threads having a discussion on anime and manga. It might not be stuff you like, but its still discussion. Also, you betray your newfaggotry when you say that /a/ never talks about old shows. /a/ has an "pre-2000's show" thread at least twice a week. I found out about Natsuki Crisis, California Crisis, Airbats 808 TTS through /a/.

>>15768840
If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

The former is what spoonfeeding is, coddling the user by solving their immediate problem, but failing to equip the individual with the skills and knowledge to fend for themselves as in the latter.

I'm only explaining this to you once, because I don't think you really understood the point when you felt the need to reply.

>>15768840
>The best major board is /pol/
Into the trash all your opinions go.

>>15768849
Not all of them are, but so many of them are that /a/ would ironically have less rec threads if they did stop getting upset and started spoonfeeding more

And I was talking about both /a/ and /v/ with that post

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>>15768872
Thankfully /a/ has actual moderation, so no, they don't need to tolerate shitposting.

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>>15768840
>The best major board is /pol/ because at least actual discussion is had there

>>15768057
>>15768043
>>15768039
>caring what happens on /sp/

>>15768819
>Go to /a/ right now and show me an example. There is no actual, meaningful discussion on /a/. If you actually discuss things you are being called autistic.

What are you talking about, I see plenty of discussion. Just because you don't like the shows doesn't mean they aren't talking about them.

>>15768865
Which doesn't apply to /a/ because
1) it's fucking anime; it's not important that people learn to have their own tastes. It's entertainment, who gives a fuck?
2) Most rec threads are shitposts and the very reason /a/ is plagued with them is because of their hostile attitude towards them
3) You can't expect your community to be any good if it tells new members to fuck off and think for themselves instead of establishing common ground

>>15768878
It has always been the case that /a/'s mods act like the average /a/ poster, but /a/ moves so fast that a lot of rec threads stay up for some time regardless.

>>15768887
It should be obvious by now that this fag is some newfag from /pol/ who got butthurt that his rec thread got him banned on /a/.

>>15768837
>Anything for a profit eh?
This website isnt your personal charity event. If the guy wants to make a profit then you have no right to criticise the way he makes it as long as its legal. You option to just stop using the website. This isnt some generally required service such as Google or WhatsApp, you actually have a choice to not use it. So yes, if your problem is related to data mining then you have multiple options: either use a VPN, properly block scripts or stop using the website entirely. Youre not forced to be here so complaining that the person who runs the place runs it in a way that generates him money is so goddamn retarded and naive that I dont even know what to say.

>morally bankrupt too
Morals are nothing but completely made up rules that change depending on what city you stand in. So please, dont talk to me about morals when you expect an entrepreneur to run his business in a way for him to barely break even.

>>15768889
>it's fucking anime; it's not important that people learn to have their own tastes. It's entertainment, who gives a fuck?

Entertainment is the only thing that distracts us from the reality of "work until you're put in an early grave". It is of the utmost importance.

>>15768889
>it's fucking anime; it's not important that people learn to have their own tastes. It's entertainment, who gives a fuck?
Oh, you're one of THOSE people.
>Yeah dude, who cares its just weebshit brah xDD
No, I have to actually share a board with oxygen wastes like you, so damn right I expect the mods to make sure you types are banned.
The very existence of other imageboards far more friendly compared to /a/ that are rampant with saucefags should clue you in to the fact that the type of person who still can't reverse image search or god forbid, GOOGLE "good /a/ recs" are the exact kind of person who'd benefit from lurking more.

>>15768889
>I NEED GROUPTHINK TO SUSTAIN MY EXISTENCE

>>15768860
>It might not be stuff you like, but its still discussion.
How is this related to meaningful discussion? Running another circlejerk thread without actually critcising the work youre debating doesnt really have any value so instead of saying "lul there are" you could simply provide evidence. But I guess backing up your claims is considered spoonfeeding, eh?

>>15768893
Dont worry mate, I am very likely to have watched more shows and movie from the 70s-90s than you did. I am simply more interested in that shitty boards quality to go up at some point, not spiral down further on a daily basis.

>>15768906
Funny that you say that when its exactly whats /a/ is about at this point. Shitposting as a unit without any substance to the posts or topics that are being created. You unironically think thats any less of a circlejerk?

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>>15768911
>/a/ never talks about old shows
https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/subject/pre%202000%27s%20anime/
https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/subject/retro%20anime/
Of course since you're some scumsucking /pol/ crossie you probably didn't know /a/ has an archive that you could search.

>>15768911
>Running another circlejerk thread without actually critcising the work youre debating
But posters on /a/ criticize the shows they watch all the time? Have you actually visited /a/, at all?

>>15768917
He's probably a phone poster too, I don't think a single archive has existed that is friendly to mobile devices.

>>15768902
Your problem here is assuming that everyone has the same level of investment as you. Most of the people that are the type to make rec threads are not the type to stay on /a/ for more than a few hours.

Why do people asking for sauce upset you so much, anon? Did one come over and rape your mother? Or are you just upset that people don't take your hobby as autistically as you do?

>>15768917
I dont know who you are quoting here. I didnt claim that /a/ never talks about show pre 2000, I said that they are hardly ever brought up. I think theres a pretty big difference between saying that the amount of threads is minimal, and that its zero. But please correct me if I am wrong. I mean, the fact that you have to go to the archives to find threads is basically proof that I am right, otherwise youd be able to simply pick something from the catalog.

>>15768921
Not in a meaningful manner, though. Thats what I am referring to. Most criticism is blatant shitposting a la "lol dis bad". If you jump into a thread about some older show that is generally acclaimed then the critcism will mostly bottle down to the exac same thing, while the rest of the users just circlejerks about how perfect X or Y is. Even if you bother to bring up valid arguments people will be unwilling to even discuss them.

This isnt as bad on /m/ but its fairly similar.

>>15768923
>Your problem here is assuming that everyone has the same level of investment as you

Not him but what the fuck is the point of being on 4chan if you aren't all in? There's a million normalfag boards out there that cater to people who watch anime that won't spend a not-insignificant amount of their time on it.

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>>15768922
Phoneposters unironically ruined this site.
>>15768923
If they don't care enough to do a simple google search, they're most likely there to shitpost, and thus, should be banned. That simple.

>>15768938
sorry I used the wrong word. When I said normalfag boards, I meant normalfag sites.

>>15768934
Obviously /a/ isn't going to have an "old anime" thread up 24/7 because the board is too fast for that, and there's far more discussion around new and airing shows.
That said, there really is at least a couple old anime threads a week, so if you've ever actually visited /a/ more than once or twice a year, you'd know.

>>15768938
Good and honest information that you're unlikely to find elsewhere. For example, I once browsed /fit/ for a few months, but after some time, I realized that practically all the essential information I needed to know I learned in the first day or two and realized that all I was doing was wasting my time shitposting instead of actually working out and being committed like I promised myself. I promptly quit browsing it after that and haven't looked back. I should have only been there for the information, not the culture. But nonetheless, it was the right place to go because the most credible ideas are the ones that rise to the top rather than the ones promoted by the most visible authorities, as per the nature of anonymous posting.

In the same way, /a/ (and /m/ as well) watch loads of anime and are probably much more qualified to tell apart the good from the bad than ANN which has marketing interests in mind and likely doesn't watch more than an episode or two of every show per season. Now you've been asking for people to google specifically "/a/ anime recs," but firstly, that runs the risk of encountering the troll charts, and secondly, any offsite reclist is likely curated by just one anon and does not represent the collective taste of /a/ as a whole

>>15768975

That doesn't really change my point though that /a/ is not for the casual fans, it's for the people that are all in, the ones that watch 10 shows a season.

>>15768975
So then they should lurk more. For the first year I browsed 4chan, I didn't make a single post partly because I still had a residual paranoia about le hackers on steroids, and also because I just didn;t know enough about anime or manga to contribute to discussion. You don't need to make a rec thread to gain a sense of what's good or not, just lurking threads and absorbing info from osmosis is enough. More boards should tell newfags to lurk more, otherwise you end up like /co/ or /his/.

>>15768989
*and watching some shows/reading some manga
Forgot that bit.

A person that isn't a moron doesn't need to be spoonfed. They can lurk to find out information, they can pay attention to filenames, or reverse image search. or have the metadata searcher on webms, they will have things like the charts made twice a year on the shows airing that season. To need to be spoonfed is not only an indication of a lack of patience, but an indication at the person does not pay attention to their surroundings when it's relatively easy to pick up the source of something without asking.

>>15768989

No /his/ has the problem that, like moot said, it became /pol2.0/. Like most people there I blame the humanities part.

>>15768983
And maybe there are people who are interested in what people like that watch without wishing to actively become one themselves. What's wrong with that?


>>15768989
The entire subject of what I'm talking about is people that aren't interested in the topic, but not interested enough to spend a year lurking the board

>>15769006
What's wrong with that is that they decrease the quality of the board by flooding the catalogue with useless fucking rec threads. /a/ is just too large to tolerate letting every newfag make a thread asking for anime recs. If they can't spend the literal 4 seconds to google "most recommended anime shows of all time", they honestly were never interested in the subject in the first place, and therefore should be treated with the banhammer.
>>15769004
I agree completely. Making the board was a mistake and further proof the Hiroshima's incompetence/lack of giving a shit.

>>15769006
>And maybe there are people who are interested in what people like that watch without wishing to actively become one themselves. What's wrong with that?

Then that person is a filthy casual at worst, and someone who is afraid of being part of a community and just wants to peek in the window at best. This site was never made to cater to people like that. You're supposed to lurk at the window untl you feel comfortable enough to start posting yourself. That's the way the majority of the boards used to work, now basically only /a/ and /jp/ function that way.

>>15769031

/his/ would be fine if the humanities part was purged and it focused on history. Well that and remove the obvious bait threads of "why is Africa so underdeveloped"

>>15769034
>Well that and remove the obvious bait threads of "why is Africa so underdeveloped"
It's amazing how accurate it is to assume that an OP whose picture is the african continent is going to go full /pol/ every time without fail and that that was the intent

>>15760300
>>INSTEAD LETS REACT BY CAPS LOCKING CANCERFUCKFUCKFUCK/A/BOOGEYMAN
Go back to fucking /v/ or /a/ or wherever retards post like that. What the fuck do you think this is /b/ you stupid cunt

>>15768889
>It has always been the case that /a/'s mods act like the average /a/ poster
yes god forbid the mods actually understand a board's subject and culture
oh no, wouldn't want that

>>15760818

Make an /m/ discord. I fear for /m/'s future, like I don't get how anyone can have beef on us. we're not bad at all.

>>15768889

Not always. I think a lot of what was lost was also in that mods had a lot less "fun" with us. Mods used to be like Old Testament or ancient gods. They were insane, and the appearance of any doing anything sent us damn near sacrificing offerings to their inscrutable wrath.

Now they just enforce the rules as written. Which allows casuals to infiltrate, and then not lurk enough to naturalize into the particular board's culture before posting. I mean, for god's sake, we're accepting MAL and animesuki as valid sources for information now. It doesn't matter if they always were, but you didn't SAY it, and if you did, you got called out for it.

>>15769054
Not him but if you think that its a good thing for moderation to promote shitposting then you suffer from some severe mental disability. Self moderation is a foreign term on /a/. People just shitpost threads they want deleted instead of ignoring them. The problem is that its only the thread that gets deleted and the creator that gets banned, but the shitposters get off scot-free. That shouldnt be the case. Directing people to /pol/, using MAL as a boogeyman, telling people to LURK MOAR or sending them to reddit should result in a ban since those are nothing but off topic shit posting and honestly worse than on topic threads that are bad.

>>15769031
>What's wrong with that is that they decrease the quality of the board by flooding the catalogue with useless fucking rec threads
They don't, because once again, most rec threads aren't legitimate. /a/ gets like 20 rec threads a day. /m/ gets one every month or two. /m/ is a slower and more niche board, yes, but not so much so to the point that I'd attribute all of this discrepancy just to that. And if it really becomes too much of a problem, just have a general for it. /a/ practically already has pseudo-generals as is, so I've been told. I'd say telling them to go to /wsr/ is fine, but again, /wsr/ has a different kind of person that browses it than /a/ does.

>>15769034
>Then that person is a filthy casual at worst, and someone who is afraid of being part of a community
Or maybe, just maybe, they don't want to get wrapped up discussing the body parts of the latest type-moon heroine and would just like to know some good anime.

>>15769069
how is reminding everyone that rec threads are against the fucking rules of the site "promoting shitposting"?
>telling people to LURK MOAR or sending them to reddit should result in a ban since those are nothing but off topic shit posting and honestly worse than on topic threads that are bad
hmmm, not really.

>>15769072
So wait, if most rec threads are simply "shitposts", then how would letting rec threads stay up help anything? I wouldn't mind a sticky with a chart of /a/ recs, but a general would be a terrible idea.

>>15769073
>how is reminding everyone that rec threads are against the fucking rules of the site "promoting shitposting"?
You promote shitposting as a mod by letting shitposter get off scot-free, are you illiterate or something? If someone posts a rec thread that gets 50 replies then the OP isnt the only shitposter. The people who keep bumping the thread with shitty get posts etc are just as guilty for not ignoring it. They should be punished accordingly, plain and simple. There is a rule to not post trash for a reason. Shitposting in a thread that will get deleted isnt suddenly not trash anymore.

>>15769072
>Or maybe, just maybe, they don't want to get wrapped up discussing the body parts of the latest type-moon heroine and would just like to know some good anime.
Yes, and you can do that without asking, see my previous post >>15768999

>>15769083
I'm not saying letting them stay up is a good thing the way things are now, I'm saying that /a/ being so hostile to them is what's causing them to be shitposts in the first place. Of course, they will always be hostile towards them and to say otherwise goes against 15 years of /a/ culture, but that as never the point of this discussion. The point of this discussion, following the reply chain, is showing why /m/ treating rec threads the way it does isn't really a problem.

>>15769072
>>15769091
Punishing shitposters is an act in futility because they'll just reset their ip and keep doing it, knowing they got the attention they wanted. /a/ tried hardcore to punish a shitposter, and we got accelerator out of it.

>>15769091
The ability to sage your post was built into this site for that very reason.
Too bad no one fucking lurks anymore and so they don't know.

>>15769100

Because /m/ is not the same as /a/, and what works here will not work elsewhere. This is like saying "why can't America have no guns if Japan can do it"

>All these cancerous and mad /a/ crossboarders
Stay on your shit board

>>15769101
And its gotten even worse now that mobileposters can just move to a different wifi hotspot to continue their shitposting

>>15769112
Nothing will ever be as bad as accelerator. Nothing before or since has gotten to the point where even the admins had to make an official post of DO NOT REPLY TO THIS GUY because he was that bad.

>>15769110
>stay on your shit board
>when the person posting the most is the one demanding /a/ be different instead of just not going there

>>15769110
No, the only cancerous faggots around here are the posters who think /pol/ is the best major board.

>>15769096
Again, I've been saying some people don't want to lurk, and I really don't see a problem with that for /a/ specifically given how utterly stupid the discussion there usually gets. Regardless, there's nothing wrong with asking for what you want.

>>15769105
Whatever /a/'s doing clearly isn't working since it continues to be a problem for them

>>15769120
/pol/ has its problems, but I bet you couldn't even name one of them. Having opinions you don't like doesn't count.

>>15769121
>Again, I've been saying some people don't want to lurk
Then that's their own problem, you don't go somewhere and demand a place change to fit your beliefs. That's what a moral busybody does.

>>15769121
>Whatever /a/'s doing clearly isn't working since it continues to be a problem for them
And it'll continue to be a problem forever, no matter what you do, since /a/ is a major board, and anime has been sort of mainstream for the last 15-20 years.
Therefore, the best solution is to be as hostile as possible so the actual retards leave, and ban the shitposters who stay. Its like fighting a cancer, nothing will really solve it aside from constant vigilance.

>>15769121
>since it continues to be a problem for them

No, it's a problem for you. I'm pretty /a/ is just fine with telling people asking for sauce to fuck off. Assimilate or leave, that is the way every board should be. Letting in groups that actively fight against the way your board has always been is the easiest way to destroy it, it's simple divine and conquer.

>>15769124
Posting a rec thread isn't demanding anything. It's simply asking for information.

>>15769121
>Again, I've been saying some people don't want to lurk

Then those people should, yknow, fuck off instead of being enabled.

>>15769137
Its demanding space on the catalogue that should be reserved for actual discussion you dumb fucking nigger.

>>15769137
Yes and when you don't get it, you're demanding the board change instead of accepting that you're the one who doesn't belong.

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>>15769139
>that should be reserved for actual discussion
Yea, thats what /a/ is about at the moment youre right.

>>15769136
But that's exactly what I was saying in the first place. Telling people to fuck off encourages them not to assimilate if they do stick around. They'll develop their own cancerous taste and start making Naruto/Bleach threads because that's what they were told was good from offsite sources. And that's what /a/ usually does, it tell people to google instead of lurk

>>15769142
I never saw one that actually did so when I browsed there.

>>15769150
>They'll develop their own cancerous taste and start making Naruto/Bleach threads because that's what they were told was good from offsite sources. And that's what /a/ usually does, it tell people to google instead of lurk

Yeah and guess what, those threads used to get the response of being bombed into oblivion with doubles spam. Then moot ruined it.

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>>15769149
What's the issue here? Seems like anime and manga discussion to me.

>>15769156
No one said /a/ is superior, people are just arguing that boards shouldn't change for the sake of outsiders. I would argue that for /m/ too.

>>15769158
Its mostly anime and manga related shitposting. Besides, a rec thread is essentially anime and manga discussion as well so your argument is falling apart if thats the only requirement it needs to fulfill to deserve a slot.

>>15769164
>Its mostly anime and manga related shitposting
>shitposting
Talking about waifus is not shitposting, it's the pinnacle of anime culture because it means you so deep in the pool that real women now disgust you. It is /a/ in its purest form.

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>>15769156
/a/ is the 5th most popular board, it's the best out of the top 10

>>15769172
Even fucking /tv/ is better than /a/

>>15759936
Boards like /v/ and /g/ are honorary anime boards

>>15769178
/tv/ thinks 4chan exists exclusively for memes and shitposting and not real discussion. /a/ can strike a balance between fun and actually talking about anime/manga

>>15769178
As someone that goes on /tv/, that's a staight up lie. /tv/ is even worse than /co/.

>>15769172
I dont think you have ever browsed /vg/ if you think that its worse than /a/. That board might be circlejerk galore but so are the generals on /a/. It at least has some proper debates taking place and most of the /v/ trash stays on /v/.

>>15769155
Yeah, I know. It's where I got the idea to spam pasta on that shitty ANN thread that felcherfag posted the other day. Killing that thread was totally worth the ban I got for it (which expired this morning, I'm not evading, shitheads).

I just wish it never would get to the point where we'd have to do things like that to begin with

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>>15769187
>/a/ can strike a balance between fun and actually talking about anime/manga
Yea, instead of /tv/'s 98:2 shitposting to serious posting ratio, its an impeccable 95:5.

>>15769192
Not him but it varies from one general to the other. Some are far worse than others. Personally I'm perplexed that /sc2g/ still exists

>>15769196
It's not that high for /a/

>>15763138
さすが normalfags.

>>15760409
That's a special brand of autism. It'd be almost impressive if it weren't so sad.

>>15763472
/d/'s been having mod problems, so keep that in mind if it does happen.

>>15769207
What's this I hear about /d/ mods problems?

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>>15768894
>If it's legal, it's okay
So lying and threatening your userbase to shake them down for money is perfectly acceptable to you. I mean you have yet to refute the validity of any of Hiro's actions, so the fact you're forced to defend the intolerable actions themselves by taking a sociopath's mindset is pretty telling. I bet you defend what Martin Shkreli did because it was legal, even though it was completely immoral. Morality tends to be something to be agreed upon, at least before this current era Which comes back to the fact you admit you're morally bankrupt. You're an objectivist too, aren't you?

>>15768886
Modern /sp/ is shit, I'm just pointing out an age when we had an owner who cared.

>>15768840
>The best major board is /pol/ because at least actual discussion is had
I see you've never been to /pol/, or pic related is you. Yes, there are people who go out in public wearing pepe stickers

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>>15768940
If you ever need to present some more well thought out proof as to why phone posters are cancer, use this.

As for why phone posting will never be cracked down upon during Hiro's regime. Refer back to the malware ads he hosts.

>>15769228
On the contrary, I think you've never been to /pol/, especially if you're posting things that show up in cringe threads on /pol/ and claiming that's the average /pol/ poster

>>15769228
>Morality tends to be something to be agreed upon
Yeah, the Nuremberg trials perfectly showed that. Stalin who killed more people than Hitler could ever have killed had the moral highground since he won the war. Morals everybody. 50years ago it was morally wrong to be gay, 100years ago it was morally wrong for women to have the same rights as men. Which, by the way, is still the same in certain countries. Morals arent right or wrong, they are dependant on who you ask. Your moral code is no better than that of some wife butchering muslim. They are just different so I dont really get why youre trying so hard to prove that your interpretation of "proper morals" is the right one when such a thing doesnt even exist. Youre making use of a service here. If you dont like the service, and its not likely to be adjusted, then you should stop using it. There is nothing wrong about making money off of something that is legal.

>at least before this current era
Absolutely laughable. Holy fucking shit how bad is the US' public education? If anything morals have become more streamlined than ever before in human history.

>>15762018
>Hasn't aged well

I fucking hate this. I've got people who will refuse to watch high quality 80s stuff just because it's from the 80s. Let alone the 1970s stuff because they say they know what's going to happen in it or it's too crude, or etc.

>>15769236
>Claiming that's the average /pol/ poster
Because they are, you just conveniently disavow your lot when they fail. Also /pol/ is painfully predictable and a hugbox just like the ones they decry. Just post something contrary to the hivemind and you'll be bombarded with 'shill', 'saged' and 'shareblue' because it's what they're trained to do when faced with conflicting opinions.

>>15769252
>Bluster: the post.
Godwin's law notwithstanding. /pol/ would find a way, find me people who defend what Martin Shkreli did as justifiable or morale across the spectrum in America. Or how Hiro, lying to 4chan's userbase and running malware ads to make money off them is acceptable.

>People are still pissy about toku despite this shit being clearly accepted together with robot anime in Japan.

>>15769281
Your friends are clearly just put off by the obvious quality degradation that has made most '80s stuff unwatchable. Those files may have been 10k kbps when ripped from laserdisc, but now you'll be lucky to see 1k or even 750 kbps, with commensurate loss of resolution. Next time, try storing Gunbuster on a disk with better rotational velocidensity and making sure the audio is in FLAC.

>>15769294
Ethically speaking Shrkeli is a fop.

Legally speaking, there's no law against being a fop. And to some degree that is a sign the law has a shortcoming in allowing Shrkeli to get away with the anti malarial price hike and thus go full fop.

B_K you of all people should know there's no law against being a douche, at least not until someone implements such a law.

>>15769252
>Your moral code is no better than that of some wife butchering muslim. They are just different
Moral relativism is the way immoral acts become acceptable.

>>15769294
>/pol/ is a hugbox
this is how I know you've never been there at all. Between all the BBC threads, the unironic leftypol posters, the civic nationalist redditors in trumpgen, the lolbertarians, the unironic Nazis, the cancerous e-celeb worshippers, the datamining CIA niggers laying sting traps by encouraging people to be violent or share personal information, and the Obama leaf, the claims about Olgino infestation and so on, /pol/ is the last fucking place on this website that could be called a hugbox. The "shareblue" shit you were talking about was only really relevant several months ago while /pol/ was still being raided by r/thedonald redditors that couldn't take any criticism of Trump. It now pretty much only exists in Trumpgen

And speaking of Shkreli, /pol/ had some very interesting debates on him the other day when he was convicted. You can see numerous people both for and against him with very little cries of "shill," which should thoroughly debunk your bogus claims of being a hugbox

See here
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/136167663/

>>15769294
>Godwin's law
Jesus Christ pal.

>what Martin Shkreli did as justifiable
It isnt illegal, so what is there to justify?

>morale across the spectrum in America
Again, morals are subjective. They arent laws. There isnt some written document that defines what a basic moral code looks like.

>lying to 4chan's userbase and running malware ads to make money off them is acceptable
Why arent you bitching about Google analytics or the countless background scripts that collect data on your, then?

>>15769334
So why is a muslims behavior immoral but yours isnt? Disregarding that their behavior is retarded, why is it morally wrong to behead someone for breaking the vow of marriage compared to lets say divorcing them? You simply came to the conclusion that the latter is better option and while I agree that doesnt make it right. Its just a differing opinion.

>>15769346
>So why is a muslims behavior immoral but yours isnt?

Because morals between countries aren't just different, some are just plain better. Yes I'm talking about moral superiority, and I have the right to because I come from a culture with superior morals.

>>15769351
>some are just plain better
?????

>>15769352
Yes, a society where you don't beat a woman for expressing her opinion is superior to one that does.

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>>15762162
We're all becoming old, whether we like it or not.

>>15765474
I could really go for a corndog right now.

>>15769210
TL;DR timeline of the past year or so:
>Certain threads start getting fucked with and having massive amounts of posts deleted for no apparent reason (I recall giantessfags complaining that they were losing 80+ posts per thread for several days in a row)
>When asked for explanation, mods either don't respond or said something vague like "the character looked kinda underage" or "thread was going offtopic" even if people were doing something like discussing an erogame related to whatever fetish the thread was about while still posting pics
>Caption and CYOA threads draw mod ire and start getting deleted
>Captionfags complain there's no reason for them to get deleted if the local writethread (/efg/ formerly known as /wst/, which was banned from /tg/) gets to stay up because the captions are attached to pictures, unlike writefags' stories
>/efg/ threads start getting deleted. At the same time, the /aco/ writethreads started getting deleted.
>People from all of these threads + a few others targeted by mods decide to ask what's going on, results in two massive stickies (1300+ and 1800+ posts respectively IIRC) over two days, mass arguing from all sides
>/d/ mods officially ban caption threads, CYOA creation threads, and erotic fiction threads citing "persistent quality issues"
>One anon went on IRC and saw mods talking about how writing has no place on an imageboard and if people wanted to write they should join a fanfic site (regardless of whether people were writing fapfics or original stories)
>All aforementioned threads are now only allowed to exist in /trash/

The official announcement was followed by mass banning and post deletions of people perceived to be violating "quality content" standards. Meanwhile, other boards continue to have writethreads, including /k/ of all the fucking places. I think that covers everything semi-recent.

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>>15759899
I can't really imagine why other boards would dislike us. I remember we sometimes got on /k/'s nerves, and I guess there'll always be a bit of friction between us and /a/, but other than that I'd be surprised if many other boards even knew we existed.

That said, aside from all the other discussion, I wandered over to /pol/ for a bit and found this, made me chuckle. Those guys certainly have active imaginations. Maybe we should have been keeping an eye on Saturn instead of Jupiter.

>>15769358
Not as amusing as that person on /his/ who made a thread the other daywhere he was utterly convinced that australians were responsible for both world wars and that their criminal origin makes them compelled to shitpost irl even if it means the deaths of millions. And that former PM Billy Hughes masterminded it all

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/3213619/#q3213619

horrifying if true

>>15769358
Because mecha is a subgenre of anime. There is no other board that has such little reason to exist. If I was into other hobbies then I'd be mad as well. Why does my game, genre, hobby etc not have its own board that is separate from the overarching one? Why is there /sp/ and not /football/ or /americansports/? Why isnt /shounen/ a thing? What about /classicfilm/? And so on. People have a right to hate this board to be honest.

>>15769379
>Why is there /sp/ and not /football/ or /americansports/?
You say that but /asp/ exists now

>>15769195
Oh /y/ne harder.

>>15769376
>Strewth, I dunno bout you, fellow Americans, but all this don't really sound fair dinkum to me. Ain't you feelin a bit bushed, cobba? Gwan, go to sleep. Don't worry about it.
They're on to us

Honestly, why not just make a new /m/ somewhere else.
I think it'd do everyone good if all boards went and became separate sites.

>>15769420
I mean, I am gonna go out on a limb here but I am fairly sure that the only reason most of the boards even have posts is thanks to crossboarders.

>>15769428
They can't be the majority of posters here, and getting rid of them (assuming they won't crosspost across sites anyway) can't be a bad thing.

>>15769060
There's already an /m/ discord.

>>15769299
I can shove 15 gig per episode encodes in their face and they won't like it while they'll watch crappy resolutions of the newest nonsense out there.

>>15769345
This. /pol/ isn't a hugbox. It's just not, well, politically correct.

>>15769376
Makes a change from everyone hating Britain.

>>15769479
Like I said, it does have its problems. Assloads of newfags, tons of bot posting and so on. But in spite of that, it manages to be the best major board because you see discussion on loads of topics seldom seen elsewhere

Take this thread, for example,
>>>/pol/136973561
This person may not have all the facts, but where else on the internet will you find people drawing these kinds of connections?

I like /m/ just the way it is. Its a bit slow, sure, but that comes with the territory of being niche.

>>15769518
>where else on the internet will you find people drawing these kinds of connections?


Stormfront. Yeah yeah, I know, like you said, there are all kinds of people on /pol/ aside from Nazis, but that one thread doesn't strike me as the most ground-breaking analysis I've read, I've heard about "rothschilds" and Trump being a Jew-lover already. Looking at that thread and the one I linked, /pol/ can be kinda funny at times, but that seems the best that can be said for it. At the very least, maybe it's better than /b/. It's been ages since I even looked at /b/ but I haven't heard they've really gotten any amusing content or memes or anything recently, not in a while.

>>15769547
It wasn't to me either. I was just posting the most recent example of such analysis. It's something I would've never thought of at all had I never been there.

Regardless, I do get the impression that Stormfront actually is a hugbox, so you wouldn't have seen folks like the Lithuanian or Italian guy arguing with the Turk OP, which is part of why I posted the thread to begin with

>>15768934
>But please correct me if I am wrong. I mean, the fact that you have to go to the archives to find threads is basically proof that I am right, otherwise youd be able to simply pick something from the catalog.
Are you fucking retarded? /a/ is in the middle of a season right now so of course the board will be dominated by currently airing shows considering there's fifty each season. Look at their catalog in the two week break and you'll see random anons bringing up a more diverse group of shows.

>>15769324
>Fop
>A man who is concerned with his clothes and appearance in an affected and excessive way; a dandy.
You're thinking of a poof mate. Which is irrelevant. His morale failings went beyond his price gouging scheme since he's now going to jail for fraud. And the fact his actions were legal is further proof of a failure in morality because just because it's not illegal, doesn't make it acceptable by the mores of society.

Also I take umbrage with you implying my actions are in any way comparable to what Shrkeli does.

>>15769345
They're all more or less part of the same camp outside of leftypol which is left to flounder on their own little island. The current thread isn't being nuked, and just slid off Call me when bad news about Trump's Russian connection is released if you want to see a negative reception. Furthermore, if you actually read the thread, a vast majority of people who didn't make throw away comments defended Shkreli's actions or are playing out the same argument we are having right now. Sothe thread you supplied as evidence is moot.

>>15769346
You again prove my point about morality by defending Shkreli's actions where almost the entire public condemned his actions because while legal, it was seen as wrong. Furthermore, it shows that if he was willing to skirt the law there, he had no problem breaking it (which he did.) They at least put it in the fine print Read reCAPTCHA's terms Hiro is intentionally quiet the fact he's hosting malware ads even though people on /qa/ were screaming about it for months.

>>15769547
They've never been a source of OC, just about everything /pol/ does is bastardized content from other boards or sites.

>>15769566
>so you wouldn't have seen folks like the Lithuanian or Italian guy arguing with the Turk OP, which is part of why I posted the thread to begin with
Much more likely to see it in /bant/ or /sp/ because you can't mess with what flag you have unlike in /pol/

>>15769702
>They're all more or less part of the same camp
Make a thread about how national socialism is wrong because socialism is corrupt and unsustainable and watch the Nazis go to war with the libertarians. Do it, I dare you

>Call me when bad news about Trump's Russian connection
>This one specific bullshit liberal talking point that even liberals are losing interest in is proof that the entire board is a hivemind on everything

>Sothe thread you supplied as evidence is moot.
I was just providing evidence that it wasn't a hivemind. Of course it wasn't the deepest discussion since it tripled as both a happening and a stream thread. Nonetheless, points were made on both sides.

>just about everything /pol/ does is bastardized content from other boards or sites.
Aside from the pepe meme, what do you base this on?

>>15769730
I insist you do it.

>Thinking it's a bullshit liberal talking point
>/pol/ choosing to bury threads that news broke of an FBI raid on Manafort.
>A raid that was signed off by a judge and only done because they felt Manafort would withhold or destroy evidence.
>Or how Manafort just fired his legal team and hired a lawyer who's area of expertise are the foreign corrupt practices act, tax fraud, violation of the bank secrecy act, mortgage fraud, tax shelter litigation, illegal cross border banking and congressional investigations. Oh and he got a pardon for an ex-CIA operative in regards to Iran-Contra.
>And Trump's lawyer was the first to put out a written statement regarding the FBI's raid of Manafort's estate even before Manafort or his original lawyer did.
>And Trump's lawyer then demanded all evidenced seized in the raid, which was allowed by a judge, be stricken from any future cases.
Yes, let's make that topic instead and see what happens.
Or we can wait for the next drip and see how that topic fairs. You even have a Scandinavian bot who's only job is to achieve link everything from 'biased' newspapers thinking they use the same metric as video game clickbait sites. You should get that guy to come here and do the same thing for ANN articles

It's also a clear hive mind since a vast majority of the posters are going on about either Jews, or parroting the comments that you or your compatriot did that Shkreli did nothing morally wrong even citing the same arguments.

The fact that /pol/ is reddit-lite where they just take content from other boards as they please. If you're looking for current 'content' Colbert and Chad. Although I could see you guys having an incentive for using Colbert since you guys failed in your petition to get him fired.

>>15769803
I don't need to do it. I'm not the one that thinks /pol/ is a hugbox.

The Russia investigation is just a stupid way for both parties to waste our time. I know very little about it and really don't give a fuck because I don't care if Trump walks.

The posters on /pol/ that aren't bots, newfags, shills and or contrarian shitposters do tend to agree on a lot of things, but even then, you get plenty of debate.
Make a thread on which religion is the best foundation for a country and you'll get answers of all kinds, including Judaism.
Make a thread on the current situation in North Korea and you'll find people on both sides.
Make a thread on whether or not porn and prostitution should be illegal and you'll find some of the posters saying it's Jewish degeneracy and the rest saying that the former are retarded losers for needing the government to stop themselves from masturbating and so on.

I have not taken a position on Shkreli at all ITT.

/pol/ has plenty of OC. Just look at fucking Murdoch Murdoch. Or Metokur. Or rather, go looking for them ever since they got shoah'd by youtube

>>15769357
HOLY FUCK. WHAT THE FUCK. MODS CONFIRMED FUTA LOVING FAGS. FIRST /aco/ shafts /d/ and now this?

>>15769910
I saw a guy who had no idea what happened make an /efg/ about a week ago and it got nuked in under 30 posts. They were cracking down hard on the "No Western Art" rule again too (unless it's an artist the mods/jannies like).

>>15769872
The fact you refuse to post them shows your fear that the hive mind of /pol/ will inevitably prove you wrong and your credibility will be destroyed by your own actions. I for one, welcome such delicious irony And the fact you don't care, doesn't mean a vast number of /pol/locks who are shilling for trump don't. Also it's poor damage control when you just wrote.
>liberal talking point that even liberals are losing interest
So you know enough about it to know those mean old liberals care and imply you're on the other side.

The only thing I see relevant from your examples is Trump's inadvertent use of the madman theory against a madman and how a vast majority of /pol/ welcomes the idea of the Korean peninsula being engulfed in fire storm and nuclear weapons flying. Ironically they are deathly silent when the idea of signing up for the military to fight is brought up.

>Youtube 'Celebrities' qualify as a meme on /pol/
Metokur only hit the big time with GamerGate, so that would mean you stole him from /v/. When your bottom of the barrel examples are also stolen, it REALLY makes you think.

>>15770705
>The fact you refuse to post them shows your fear that the hive mind of /pol/ will inevitably prove you wrong and your credibility will be destroyed by your own actions
Back at you. But for the record, I've already seen these threads. Here is one such example
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/119331438/

>So you know enough about it to know those mean old liberals care
Ive simply been seeing articles lately making the same assertation. Here
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/339248-dems-push-leaders-to-talk-less-about-russia

>how a vast majority of /pol/ welcomes the idea of the Korean peninsula being engulfed in fire storm and nuclear weapons flying
I've actually seen most of /pol/ on the Norks side, if nothing else, because the DPRK's threats are largely only going to be relevant to (overwhelmingly liberal) population centers, not to mention the above threads about central bank speculation, North Korea being a nationalist ethnostate, etc.

>Youtube 'Celebrities' qualify as a meme on /pol/
You asked for OC, I gave you guys that have openly stated that they browse /pol/ and are making video content. Regardless of how Metokur made it big, his home is /pol/ and he only covered gamergate because of his obsession with all forms of internet drama. Anyway, it isn't as if this board can be said to be doing better than that in terms of OC, so perhaps you should keep things in perspective.

>>15770747
I'd love to see how they'd take the blasting of much of the consumer electronics industry into the stone age what with how big phoneposting is these day- oh wait I guess we'll just buy chink phones for the next few years eh?

Alternatively
>this is what you get for phoneposting unironically!

>>15770747
>Blame liberals for what the Nazis did.
The right wing can't accept any wrong doing these days, can they?

>Dems push less talk about Russia
Dems are idiots who listen to much to focus groups and are to fearful of backlash thinking back to McCarthy and that any investigation is a McCarthite undertaking. Republicans don't have that problem. Imagine if Chelsea Clinton met with Russian operatives to get dirt on Trump from the Russian government, they'd be already voting on having her executed for treason. As for North Korea, you must be on another website, /pol/ is extremely pro Trump on this and is itching for a HAPPENING. And yes, it's because cities will be the main target which they see as a win. As for what's happening right now? Multiple threads on a white supremacist march and any counter opinions are being branded as shills or attempts to subvert from lefty pol.

And I asked for OC, you did not deliver it. He came there after the fact, but he started on /v/ like all the other e-celebs that came out of GamerGate. So it makes your points moot. Of course when you're just regurgating talking points and infographs handed to you 24/7, original thinking is frowned upon which is why you need to raid and pillage content from other boards.

>>15771012
>Blame liberals for what the Nazis did
Where the fuck did you get that out of anything?

>Republicans don't have that problem. Imagine if Chelsea Clinton met with Russian operatives to get dirt on Trump from the Russian government, they'd be already voting on having her executed for treason
One of the rallying cries of the Republicans this past election cycle was "Lock her up! Hillary for prison 2016!" Do you see the Congressional Republicans doing anything about Clinton's email scandals or her selling uranium to Russia or anything like that? Of course not. They're in bed with the Clintons, and Trump probably is as well. This is all manufactured outrage.

>/pol/ is extremely pro Trump
Trump general is extremely pro-Trump. /pol/ as a whole is more neutral on him. They loved campaign Trump, but president Trump has failed to deliver on some of his ideas, completely turned around on others, and constantly shoots himself in the foot with who he supports. The only reason anyone on /pol/ trusts him is because he's the only card they've got, not because he's the guy they've all been waiting for. That's why I previously stated that I did not care if he walked, and I'm not alone in that. Trump is a great sign that as much as things change, they still stay the same.

>any counter opinions are being branded as shills or attempts to subvert from lefty pol.
It isn't just one side of an argument that /pol/ does this towards. It's the inherent problem with openly white nationalist sentiment in the current environment. You have one side that thinks the general public is not yet willing to accept these ideas and so they must be concealed to avoid being made an example of, and then the other side thinks now or never. Each side thinks the other makes them look bad, and so they throw out words like shill because there legitimately are people fucking with the board

>And I asked for OC, you did not deliver it
>A literal /pol/ web cartoon isn't OC.
Yeah okay. Filtered.

>>15771088
>Yeah okay. Filtered.
I accept your surrender.

>>15771088
It's Black Knight. It's like arguing with a stone wall. This is someone who thinks Zeon did nuthin' wrong and that the Federation is worse than Hitler, and will uphold those views for hundreds of posts over years.

>>15771214
Don't humor the /pol/tards anon.