Muv-luv

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Soon

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What do you guys think of my squad?

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>>15735365

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>>15735371

>>15735373
Oh that's so good

>>15735365
Is that supposed to be OTH cannon?

>>15735365
>>15735565
There's something different about the nozzle
I think its missing something at the tip.

Oh, the ML kickstarter updated just now:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muvluv/muv-luv-a-pretty-sweet-visual-novel-series/posts/1950557

>The development and localization teams have been doing their best to make the summer release possible. We may be adding Muv-Luv Alternative codes on BackerKit pretty soon!

"Pretty soon," huh?

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So release date on best girl birthday next month?

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>>15735584
>I think its missing something at the tip.
It's missing a whole lot more than that.

It's a different gun.

>>15735647
These updates just keep getting worse.

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>>15735647
>they actually thought they could sell the Beato Daki in the west after the anime
Age/Degica/whoever it was pls. They would have been better served hanging Iris or Katia up.

>>15735073
It's Takeru with his harem skill and TSF.

>>15736050
fuck me. needs*

>>15735073
doggos/10.

>>15735973
Doesn't make much sense. They should know that she's one of the most hated characters in ML.

>>15736855
Age is not known for their good business decisions, and it wouldn't be their first bad one regarding Beatrix.

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>KS "update"

>>15736855
She's still the sexiest character in ML.

>>15736886
How should Beatrix have been used? What would you have changed?

>>15736912
>How should Beatrix have been used? What would you have changed?
They should have chosen between hatesink or tragic heroine, not try to halfassedly tack the latter on the former. Commiting to either vision would have sufficed, but instead they tryed to do both, and then wondered why her spinoff died shortly after the anime was released. Instead here we are almost two years after the goddamned prequel was released """discussing""" the same shit thread after thread.

>>15736927
I think you're supposed to feel really conflicted about her. Do you pity or hate?
It's like how her design is both sexy and scary. Her hair can look like she just climbed out of someone's bed in one scene, and the name of a ferocious werewolf in the next. The VN is much more consistent overall however.

>>15736960
>Do you pity or hate?
Neither. SMs writing in general pisses me off too much for the schizophrenic way she was written to make develop either feeling. Her teenage self's Gap moe works on me, but like I said before, overall its just tacked on. Its as trying to fix a severed limb with a band-aid.

>>15736983
The VN is consistent. Besides, it's not like Beatrix is the only character who goes through the stasi and does a complete 180.

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>>15737005
>The VN is consistent.
>Besides, it's not like Beatrix is the only character who goes through the stasi and does a complete 180.

>>15734302
I've been out of the loop for a while. What's happening? (Other than Kasumi being the God-Emperor and all that stuff)

>>15735670
It's been a while since the official site posted a birthday picture. What's up with that?

>>15737013
Being in the stasi for 7 years counts as character development. Just look at what 2-3 years did to Lise.

>another le beatrix "discussion"

le axmann. le beatrix. Lets keep repeating these same topics over and over again and maybe people start liking them.

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>>15735973
Beatrix is shit. Dunno what was he thinking.
Could have placed Stella there and would probably have been sold.

>>15737065
Keep telling me these sweet little lies.

>>15737041
>2-3 years
3 years containing actual torture, rape, torment and abuse, not all "careers" in the stasi are equal and what Lise went through was a lot worse than Beatrix, you can't really equate their experiences.

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Glad to see all the animeonlys are still raging faggots who know nothing about what they're talking about. So just like the rest of /m/.

>>15737093
Beatrix killed and tortured many, many more innocents than Lose. She has more blood on her hands than even Axmann. Unlike Lise, she was never that emotionally stable to begin with. There is no question, even with the deathwish, that Beatrix was the female most suited to stasi life in the cast though.

>>15737093
Beatrix chose the stasi as a career. Lise was forced into it as a slave.

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>>15737114
I'm can't figure out what point this post is trying to make since its a noncommittal blur but either way if you're saying Beatrix had it worse because she did worse and was less pressured to thats not how it works. Lise being on the receiving end of torture, brutal gang rape and sex slavery to your rapists/torturers who also killed your parents, the constant torment and abuse she received from her peers up to her induction into the Werewolves as well as the things she was forced to do by Axmann off the record all on top of the regular stasi stuff is worse. I mean Obviously. Despite being an emotionally and mentally fractured mess by the end of it like any normal person would its honestly a miracle she was functional at all by 1983.

As a side note for factual discrepancy Lise didn't torture/interrogate anyone during that time frame aside from being tortured herself. As for the 666th's interrogation her goal was to get them to talk without having to resort to torture methods and when that failed the professional torturer some bald guy was brought in to do it.

>>15737540
Thats why "career" was put into quotes when regarding to Lise.

>>15735670
>thumbnail res
>artifacts

Why do they insist on doing this to us?!

>>15735973
Anyone else here susceptible to Fremdschämen?

>>15736912
>What would you have changed?

The episode count; one cours wasn't nearly enough to make for an adequate adaptation. They really should've gone for two.

>>15737561
Basically, Beatrix deserved to die bleeding in a ditch unmourned and alone, Lise deserved to be saved and given a happy ending. Also, the torture didn't end when Lise left Axmann. Beatrix also used her, gave her the worst jobs, and in the end, took great delight in watching her shatter. Unlike Axmann though, Beatrix was much more insidious about it.

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Where's episode 6 guys?

>>15737924
Maybe the translator actually is doing Steam Alt release and not something completely irrelevant shit that no one paid for?

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>>15734302
How soon is soon?

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Anyone knows who is this not Sumika?

>>15738260
>>15738355
Looks more like that Clannad girl to me.

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Posting best girls!

I just learned taht Mizuki and Haruka Wellfare cards comes with NTR scenarios.

Short version:

Mitsuki: She is Takakayuki gf. Is raped by Shinji. Tells him to take responsibility.

Haruka: Takayuki is Mitsuki boyfriend. But she still deduces him and enjoys how both of them are cheating whores by fucking behind Mitsuki back.

>>15738355
>>15738358

I would suggest you guys look for Kawai Rie from Lovers.

>>15738233
Man, I saved 840 gems or so just for her. spent less than 100 since I started 3~4 months ago.
>and then she'll just be a welfare

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>they didn't even show hetare king and his fukboy get killed, just had them going into the hive to try and evade the g bombs then black screen saying the operation is a success and both of them disappeared
Also commented about how Kyoko looked like another blue haired girl they know.
What a letdown.

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>>15738703
>preggers
Damn suddenly I want Maburabu preggers.

>>15738968
Kyoko the one with Yui?
What's Taka and Shin relation to Kyoko?

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>>15738703
>One day, Wakiya, the main character's close friend, tells him that he loves Rie. She is the main character's old friend, so he promises to support him. But Rie and the main character actually love each other... And they finally begin to date in secret.
Reverse gender Kiminozo?

>>15738355
>>15738703
>>15739027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=admXqCB8IbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpNYwsWPUXg
This is fucking gorgeous. Anyone know where to find the OP?

>>15738988
They just say that Kyoko is resembling Mitsuki. Blue hair in a ponypail.

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>Piatif tells Takayuki and Shinji that the Imperials don't get along well with the UN and they don't know what these filthy koreans will do if they learn about the plan of dropping g bombs on Japan's soil
>operation starts, at some point Kyoko and her gang comes and tells the both of them they are on her tuff
>Narumi tells them they got the wrong door and their sector is two blocks down
>Kyoko comments that he's Japanese then leaves
>cloud prevents signal then Isumi manages to connects and tells the both of them that the fuckers decided to drop some g-bombs
>Shinji says they have to fuck off fast, Narumi says Imperials probably don't know about it, that he doesn't want more human to die especially in his hometown, Shinji insists, Narumi tells him he can just go alone, so in the end Shinji sticks with him
>they try to warn teikoku army they meet but of course they don't believe these UN soldiers and no connecting to confirm
>Takayuki goes on a rambling about how he is Japanese, its his home, etc
>finally connecting and confirm, they leave
>both of them keep doing what they can then comes the signal that Winter is coming
>Shinji starts complaining he'll die without having said what he wanted, Narumi says instead of trying to flee this late and get shot by laser, better try and go balls deep in the hive

>>15738616
Last event's Haruka or this event's Haruka?

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http://imgur.com/a/CbCq0

>>15739926
>those thighs
What a waste.

>>15739926
>>15739952
Her thighs were better in her first scenario. She had a god-tier body there. And she actually had pubes too. Her new tummy looks good and squishy now though.

>>15739340
So assuming you're not making shit up, they died because they went full on stupid nippon damashii nationalism?

what do the new tweets mean? is the translation completely done???

>>15741169

Assuming that it's true, Takayuki looks like he's actually trying to be reasonable (I may be UN but I'm still a Japanese in the end, I wouldn't lie to undermine Japan, so gtfo there really is a bomb coming in, we're gonna get roasted on open ground so might as well appropriate the deeper Hive tunnels as a bomb shelter, etc.)

>>15741656
>>15739340
And this is why you shouldn't stick your dick into a hornet's nest, no matter how slick and inviting it may be.

>>15741656
Was it the first time G-bombs were used in the world?

>>15741751

Officially? Yes. Don't know if the series' future might introduce a hushed test or two by the US though.

>>15739926
This isn't podracing.

Does anyone have Kyoko's CGs?

>Open Muv-luv Steam version
>Save files missing
The fuck happened. Where should it be located.

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http://www.age-soft.co.jp/archives

>that yui
>that grown up kasumi

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>>15742145

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>>15742145
Takeru have good eyes for women
God I want to fuck GILF Kasumi is that Inia behind?

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>>15742145
>that Iniya

>>15738616
Screens where?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muvluv/muv-luv-a-pretty-sweet-visual-novel-series/posts/1950557#comments

>The content is too minimal to have a patch, since gore/violent scenes will be left untouched. If the developers decided to make one, it still won't be top priority since we still have a lot of pending items to finish.

Feels like they are avoiding the question here. What about tentacle rape scene or when Takeru is fixing quantum computer? I refuse to believe they leave those uncensored. I have read this vn years ago already, so I don't mind missing out on those, but I feel like lot of people out there are getting another thing to get butthurt about.

>>15742145
>>15742147
They're finally moving away from Shtimarken and back to the superior stories. Alternative, TE, and TDA were the only good things that age has produced.

>>15742286
All I care about this is getting the 2 photons translated.

>>15742385
Which are apparently being worked alongside android port, which is completely unnecessary and takes time from more important things like side stories.

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>>15742407
So those that backed the kikestarter will have to wait like 5 years to probably get everything? Wonder what's going through their minds.

>>15742420
I'm constantly losing track of time, so it'll just be a pleasant surprise when things show up.

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>>15742147

>>15742432
This. I already gave up before ML got released so if Alternative actually gets released this summer then good. If not, I don't mind waiting some more. After all we're talking about âge and deadlines.

>>15742420
It's called having patience and a job. I'm not just sitting around 24/7 waiting for it.

Anyone got the new Akane CGs yet?

>>15742630

>patience
>job

lol

>>15742551
>After all we're talking about âge and deadlines.
This. It's always been suffering boys nothing new here.

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Nobody here in /m/ likes used goods by Sagiri right?

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>>15742145

>>15744950
she was the best girl until it turned into ntr

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>>15742286
If its just too minimal since its just 2 scenes, it shouldnt be hard to do one right?

>>15742147
God I want pure image scans of that Yui.

>>15742444
Need HD PNG no-rune version.

>>15733307
>As Kasumi peaks out from the side of the Doctor, Silvio zooms in on her chest taking a snapshot, and grades it – pitiful.
KASUMI IS FINE AS SHE IS

>>15742145
>grown up Kasumi & Inia
Age sure know waht's up.
not busty but since it's Kasumi, so it's fine.

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Looks like the translator/editor group for official Alternative release have been busy.

https://twitter.com/koestl/status/892572496905592833

>extensive reTL / editing and different formatting rules mean virtually every line with more than a word or two of content was touched

They sure did retranslate the whole thing, holy shit.

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Since nothing is happening at the moment
I hope this trails game also has a lacrosse arc, oh and look I know how best girl is already.

>>15749797
>worst girl playing lacrosse

Its like this shit sport attracts trash.

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>>15748767
Why is Herkz such a humongous faggot?

>>15750067
She/he/it was butthurt too when Muv-Luv got Kickstarter. Complained for days about it and was showing screencaps when giving thumbsdown to ML when it was in Steam Greenlight.

>>15750086
I hope herkz dies of terrible nigger aids. Try screencapping this, fuckface.

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>>15748767
>retranslate the whole thing
Did they do it to justify the shekels they got?
Was the first translation even that bad?
Wish they wasted all these time on the spinoffs / sequels instead, to get more content out.

>>15749797
If hope the crossbreed of Hayase and Meiya is a decent character.

http://imgur.com/a/WGfFO

have fun

>>15750608
No one wants to insert the D inside the old hag?

>>15745523
Fagiri deserved every second of it

>>15744950
Best girl then
Best girl now

>>15750608
What the fuck, Kyoko?

>>15750710
It's a shop. That card is a welfare, everybody playing should have it and it's Yui x Kyoko, there is no dick involved.
And no matter how much they'd want to reduce costs, I don't think the'd reuse the exact same art for another card even if it's a welfare.
And anyways they are only two Kyoko cards and a pic of the first one (with Ikaruga?) has already been posted and is not like that.

>>15750608
Who's doing what to her (and why)?

>>15750808

Wait are welfare cards the ones you grind for to buy from the shop?

>>15750705
wtf sagiri was the best at least in alternative he managed to act on his convictions and did something meaningful

>>15750808
prove it by posting all the cgs from that scene

I just started playing altered fable but I keep on getting random freezes/crashes. Safe mode is off and locale is set to japanese. Is there anyway around these crashes?

>>15752825
Be on windows 7 or lower.

>>15753168
well that sucks

>>15750411

Laura is mighty!

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>roll just to get sr ticket
>get this

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>>15753325

Sometimes the Gacha gods smile upon you

Most of the time they just fuck you over.

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>>15750608
Anime of these beautiful girls when?

>>15753451
>thumbnail res
>artifacts

Decent birthday artwork of the characters when?

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>>15752109
http://www19.zippyshare.com/v/CttwH1SS/file.html
There is not much to see, just Yui fondling Kyoko's boobs. But you can at least check that the skin of the hands is white, which they pretty much only give to girls and shotas.

>>15751278
Yes.

>>15751349
>sagiri was the best
>did something meaningful
Fagiri pls

>>15751349
Sagiri chose the wrong time to do his shit. If he'd held off for another month, he could have participated in the battle of Yokohama part deuce, and Operation Ouka, then worked his way up to taking over control of the empire from contributions and steering it the right way. Of course, he would get clucked by Ikagura at the end though.

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>>15751349
>did something meaningful
>classreps dad dies in Unlimited anyway

Considering Sagiri still alive in Chronicles and is still a contributor along with Walken proves Alternative Sagiri did everything wrong.

>>15753749
>taking over control of the empire from contributions

>some average citizen in the kuso heimin force
>taking control
>implying

The citizens wouldn't even give you the fucking time of the day if any of the blue chucklefucks, much less Ikaruga, made a public announcement on how they should avoid speaking with you.

>doesn't even have to make it official though the fucking Diet

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How tall is Kasumi?

>>15742152
TAKERU! Quit traumatizing little girls!

>>15753639

Any other full character sets you could upload?

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>>15753749
it was made painfully clear that nipponland was on the verge of collapsing before sagiri's revolt, whether through other revolutionaries or via american forces actually taking over japan. At least through sagiri japan reawakened their yamato damashii and staved off collapse for a bit longer. pic related

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>>15753639
Too bad you don't have the good one

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Can we please have Alternative in Steam already? I want to have my excuse to reread it after all these years.

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>>15757306
Yeah, I spent all the gems I had left but sadly it wasn't enough to get her.
>>15755852
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/sujtwqGX/file.html
- jpeg 90% 80Mo. Or would you prefer png? (483Mo)
- it's mostly welfares and cards already posted so if you search for something rare you won't find it here
- that last ssr Haruka is incomplete (still no rainbow chest drop for me)
- I use memu which by default takes pics in 1280*720 but if you check the old gallery, the original resolution is 960*540 and I don't know if I have been blind all this time or if it was added recently but I saw not long ago you could change the resolution so most pics are in 720 but the last ones in 540. I also switched to the original resolution because very rarely (maybe four or five pics in that zip and only one face variation) the upscale prevents layers from blending (compare 0537 and 0539 below the eye, they are dupes I left on purpose). I was planning to change back the other pics affected but too lazy.
- I took screencaps manually so I tried my best but I imagine I probably missed a few variations.

>>15758361
Can't deal with what happened to her again. It'll hurt too much.

>>15758601
Nice.

>>15753749
It's a really grey situation. Sagiri and the rebels had some legitimate grievances, and from the limited perspective they and the public had of the situation, they were completely justified in launching the coup. You also have to consider that the Americans were mucking around and making the situation worse.

>>15753728
Sure, he fucked up, but it was more out of ignorance compelling noble intentions than maliciousness. Compared to some of the self interested or lolzevil villains like Beatrix or Christopher, he's a good, but flawed man who acted selflessly to better his people.

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>>15758829
I know how you feel. It will most likely make me depressed again.

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>>15758601
Here are mine.

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>tfw no limit break material for all girls

>>15758601

Bless you, kind sir. Quality is a non-issue for me. So long as I can see it.

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>>15758877
Does Meiya's bush also have some unique trimming / style?

>>15759473
No, it's just a small tuft.

>>15759473
that slight sideboobs makes me hard

>>15759529
How can you tell?

>>15759767
You can barely see it in the shadow of her legs in Extra, but it's in plain view in Altered Fable.

>>15759774
Still mad they reneged on the promise to uncensor the HCGs.

>>15759814
They never promised to uncensor the CGs, they said they were going to uncensor the game, which means to put the HCGs back into it. That's your fault for misunderstanding.

>>15759821
age defence force is as prompt as usual.

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I love her so much

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Reminder that Yuuhi is the Jeb in the family.

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Why are they so perfect?

>>15759071
>>15759207
Why keeping dupes? Late on your farming? Just feed your 500% to the same 0% card, it's not like you'll lose the scenarii unlocked. I bet you don't even use your SR in your team anymore anyways.

>>15760266
It's quicker if you fill the first heart instead of the fifth heart. I'm too lazy on that.
>I bet you don't even use your SR in your team anymore anyways
Actually I do. I usually use SR Haruka for more defense and Minori for recovery in hard hitting bosses. SSR Iris stats up and health recovery are great but the cooldown is too long compared to Minori. If I still keep losing, I try different team combos.

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So when do we finally get an SF card of this cute kohai?

>>15761066
>stasi
>cute

Pick one

>>15761066
A scene where she masturbates while watching Lise and Theo fuck?

>>15761143
Prefer one where Theo fucks both her and Lise.

>>15761066
How does Theo kill her?

>>15761190
He doesn't. Anett beats her in a sword fight.

>>15761207
Doesn't he give her cockpit a good pounding in the anime?

>>15761251
She's not in the anime.

>>15761255
She was probably one of the faceless stasi fodder.

>>15761258
No, she's just straight-up not in it. The anime leaves out a lot of things. It's a shit adaptation.

>>15761292
Was she really that important though? Did she really leave that much of an impact on the stories or main characters?

>>15761310
She and Lise were close friends, her death was Anett's first human kill and traumatized her, and along with Beatrix adds a humanizing element to the Stasi.

>>15761337
Don't think that the stasi were meant to be humanized. If anything, seeing Lise and Beatrix, who were both likable and sympathetic in the past, transformed into cruel and ruthless people is chilling and shows how an evil institution can twist even the best people into hateful monsters.

>>15761469
I see what you're saying. I don't think humanized was the right word. Sympathetic, maybe? Seeing these nice girls broken by their experiences makes you want to get them out and give them hugs and a proper life.

>>15761561
They're kinda tragic/sympathetic, but at the same time, you really want to see them die messily.

>>15761672
>you really want to see them die messily
Alright Axmann, chill. Not everyone is a psycho like you.

>>15761683
They still do some horrible and sadistic things, even looking like they enjoy it, and behave in such an over the top evil manner. They're like equally pitiable and hateable (the second more because of their personalities than actual actions). As for Axmann, he does way worse but doesn't wear his evil on his sleeve so much. It's like the difference between a complete douchebag bully who's only that way because of parental abuse, and a polite serial killer in the vein of Hannibal.

>>15760072
Context check.

>>15761900
Do you never get tired of doing this?

>>15761952
Not when I need something clarified.

>>15761983
The context seems pretty fucking clear to me, and I haven't even read AF yet.

>>15762045
Then feel free to inform me, smartass.

>>15761983
You post that every time something related to the original trilogy gets posted. Why are you even here if you haven't played the games?

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>>15761721
>>15761672
>>15761469
>captured at fifteen, tortured for three days and gang raped for several hours, used as a sex slave for years by her rapists with a constant gun to both her and her brother's head, constant torment and abuse by the other stasi but can't escape and would be targeted for being associated with the stasi anyway if she tried, and goes through insane levels of suffering and trauma that arguably actually drive her insane
>Still sacrifices herself for her brother even when unrequited
>just wanted to escape and have a normal life again where she doesn't have to hurt or be hurt anymore

You know what man, fuck you. I don't care if the anime butchered it and left out 90% of Lise's character and story while handling what little did make it into the anime in such a disingenuous way but you should really know better by now. The fact you could even come to the conclusion "even looking like they enjoy it" which couldn't be further from the truth or "behave in such an over the top evil manner" when the only over the top evil thing is what Axmann does to Lise is retarded on your part. Theres really no excuse for you having the perspective that you have at this point especially when you have to bury your head in the sand to maintain it and base if off your 'feelings' and projections from a crap adaptation that gives you nowhere near the full picture or proper representation.

>>15762067
>tortured for three days and gang raped for several hours
She was tortured for months before the rape. Even Axmann was impressed by her resilience. Everybody else had cracked long before, yet a 15 year old girl managed to take the worst he dished out.

>>15762067
I was talking about Lise AND Beatrix. I guess Lise isn't a very good example of what I meant though. Beatrix does a better job of being extremely hateable while pitiable too (mostly because of her turbobitch attitude and all around "feel" than the shit she does).

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>>15760197
>>15760072
Why don't best girls ever win their bowls?

>>15762058
Because I seriously doubt I'll be able to actually play them within the foreseeable future.

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>>15762084
So is Yuuko a turbobitch too since they have the exact same personality? Teasing and joking with a straight face is hardly enough to qualify as a "turbobitch." Sounds like someone has only seen the anime.

>>15762107
No, it's more because Beatrix wants to make everybody as miserable and and in pain as she is. How dare they have happiness, love, or hope when she can't. It's why I think she's so sadistic and bitchy. Yuuko is just teasing and pretty kind and gentle to others when circumstances allow.

>>15762124
??? That doesn't sound like Beatrix at all. Maybe you should get better informed friend.
http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Beatrix_Brehme#Personality_and_Beliefs

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>>15762073
I'm pretty sure the first rape was after the first three days unless I'm misremembering, but yes it does continue for months after. Years even if you count the rest of the fucked up shit they put her through which was by definition torture.

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>>15762067

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>>15762227

>>15742420
Just want to check, are the dakis out yet?

>>15761900
So, anyone?

Why not have your garbage tier shitsmarken discussion in /a/?

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How about you fuck off and stop trying to kill discussion. People like you are why these threads are shit and there are still so many ignorant anime-onlys.

Newfag-desu. What're some good starting points to Muv-Luv and why is the anime considered bad by what I assume are patrician LN readers

>>15762925
Who are you talking to?

>>15763006
Read the original VN trilogy first. It's 3 parts (Extra, Unlimited, Alternative) spread across 2 games. The first game (containing the first 2 parts) is already available on Steam, and the last game/part should be out Soon™. You don't have too, but it's recommended to play every route. There's a Director's Cut patch too if you want the sex scenes (recommended). After that it's free game from a bunch of side-stories.

The anime adaptation of one of the side stories, Schwarzesmarken, is considered bad because if fucks up everyone's characterization and has new scenes added just to make certain characters look bad. The VN is the canon version now, since the original LN has outdated info.

>>15763030
Anyone in general

>>15763031
TE's anime is also considered bad because of pacing and the first director splooging away all the budget earlier. SM's anime is pretty good on it's own merits, regardless of how close it hews to the original materiel.

>>15763030
Looks like he was replying to the dude above him, and didn't want to give him a (you).

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>>15763006

The Extra/Unlimited/Alternative trilogy is a good starting point. Not to say you can't start from Total Eclipse or Schwarzesmarken, but these have a more narrow cone of focus in the scope of the story than the trilogy. You may be left wondering why certain characters or events react/end up as they do without the background of the trilogy; the side series generally assume you know all that already, so they crank out situations where instead of being infodumped, you see it directly. Of course, they do bring their own things to the table, but that is usually for within their own series.

The anime adaptations of TE and SM are at best average if you look at them without any prior knowledge, and are nothing to get hot over even by adaptation standards; plotlines not pertaining to the primary one are sometimes axed, animation is so-so. TE itself was made primarily to re-ignite interest after the series went on hiatus, and only adapted the first half of the series to screen, so you're going to have to crack out the VN anyways if you want to know how things progress. SM has a more focused adaptation plot but as you can see around the thread, it's highly polarizing.

As previously mentioned, TE and SM hang some of their weight on the viewer/reader having read Alternative prior. If you're the kind of person who hates to fill in the gaps, it would be better to dabble in the trilogy first, even if you get fed up with the character setting-up in the first two VNs and decide to auto through Extra/UL.

If you're a real serious completionist, you can instead go for Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and Kimi ga Ita Kisetsu first, as these two are chronologically set before ML Extra I'm joking, yes they're in the same timeline but the only lead-in is that Alternative cameos characters from them.

>>15762144
>linking the wiki

My how /m/ has fallen.

>>15763108
You must be new to the internet, if you can't tell the difference between the wiki and wikia.

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>>15763062
>Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and Kimi ga Ita Kisetsu
Are their translations nexts?

>>15763554
Depends on how screwed localization is with Avex 'we focus on local markets only' buying out the franchise.

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So here's a dump of some scans of the Alternative epilogue that aren't shit.

January 1st, 2049
Historical Yokohama Base Space Port
Operation Cherry Blossom Victory Commemoration Plaza
United Mankind, Founding Commissioner, Yashiro Kasumi
(or One Humanity Project, Mankind Unification Society, whatever.)

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>>15763883
Forty-eight years have passed since the destruction of the Original Hive.
As I stand before you now, here on these hallowed grounds where the Noble Seven and I first launched the Kashgar offensive, words cannot express how grateful I am to have lived to see this auspicious day.
Until now, the course of human history has swung like a pendulum between unification and dissolution.
Times of peace give rise to distrust and strife among brothers, before inevitably dragging us back into the throes of war.
But when confronted with such atrocities, we have proven time and time again our capacity to come together as a species and find common ground in our desire to restore peace and order to the world.
It is a tragic cycle, the repetition of which is an innate propensity of our human nature…

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>>15763887
But we did not break out of this cycle through our own intellect, no — it took the invasion of an extraterrestrial race, the BETA, to compel us to change.
In the face of an insurmountable evil that showed no capacity for negotiation, mankind was driven to the edge of extinction in the blink of an eye.
But after a decades-long struggle and billions upon billions of sacrifices, the Noble Seven gave their lives to buy our species a few more decades of survival.
However, even after eradicating the BETA from our solar system and enjoying the recent prosperity that the G-Elements harvested from the Martian hives have allowed, we still have yet to truly come together as a unified people. Instead, we have chosen to engage in fruitless intraspecies conflicts, and we continue to teeter on the verge of self-annihilation.

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>>15763890
Our national, organizational, individual, racial, ethnic, and religious ties…
Organic, genetically enhanced, artificial, or synthetic life…
Our materialistic gains, those triumphs we’ve seized from the jaws of adversity… the will we’ve inherited from our predecessors.
Our stubborn beliefs and refusal to let go of our vested interests are our greatest weaknesses, and have led us to falsely believe the vile notion that dividing ourselves from our brethren is, in fact, the proper way of being.

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>>15763893
But five years ago, our entire body of delegates gathered in one room and finally came to an agreement that this infighting must come to an end.
They each acknowledged these weaknesses, and decided to take the first steps on the road to coexistence and mutual prosperity by accepting one another’s differences and abolishing identity politics.
We mustn’t forget, however, that there are still many who cry out in opposition to coexistence, and would sooner take up arms against us than join our cause.
But we will accept their viewpoints as equally valid nonetheless.
We must tolerate our differences… No matter how deep-seated our prejudices, we will move past them.
Because that is the decision we have come to, of our own volition…

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And as we speak, our young warriors are about to embark on yet another perilous journey.
Their mission is of critical importance: to set off for the Siliconian homeworld, and make it known that mankind is indeed a valid form of life.
Yes, this endeavor may ultimately lead us into an interstellar war.
And to be sure, we could just as easily shirk away from that danger and continue to wait with bated breath, as we always have…

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But the decision has already been made - humanity must start moving forward.
Never again can we allow ourselves to commit the folly of entrusting our fate to the whims of others or to starry-eyed optimism.
True peace and prosperity can only be obtained by those who would rise up to claim it for themselves.
We have chosen to overcome our petty rivalries and coexist as equals… There is no reason we cannot do the same with them.
I have every confidence in that.

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Go now, brave youths.
We entrust in you our sincerest aspirations, as a callow species that for so long could do nothing but fight amongst ourselves.
We entrust in you the future that all our fallen comrades so dreamed of.
May your journey lay the foundation for a universe in which all living creatures can live together in

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I’ll never forget you all…
Who you were, and what you left behind…

>>15763910
Is that Yuuko and Inia?

>>15764043
Either that or Yuuki and Inia.

>>15763901
So I guess "Siliconian" is the official name for them, but im wondering, what about those other notes? What do Elpis and Formalhaut refer to?

>>15764128
>What do Elpis and Formalhaut refer to?
The first is a greek goddess, the second a star. Google is your friend, anon.

>>15764138
Haha, true enough, thanks. I guess they would be interstellar colonies or something at this point in the story.

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You’re hanging out with your waifu at the bar when this woman comes up to her and slaps her on the ass. What do you do?

>>15763674
Elaborate.

>>15758601
PNG please?

>>15764434
https://mega.nz/#!xyIUiR5A!1hqgdKgjrv_ZbSJI4lz9WKIxw90Z0v57noS7WLn87is

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>>15764368
Didn't you hear anon? Ixtl got bought the fuck out by Avex. And if you check what Avex has been known for recently, its for cock blocking all export of products they have licenses for.
http://www.animeherald.com/2017/07/11/avex-pictures-acquires-game-developer-ixtl/
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-11/avex-pictures-acquires-muv-luv-game-maker-ixtl/.118665

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>>15765011
That makes me mad.

>>15763905
Clones or 00 Unit?

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Finally, swimsuit event.

>>15765631
>meiya swimsuit

Maybe its time to play this a bit again.

>>15765631
post dem cgs

>>15765631
> Swimsuit Lise
based Imouto is based

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>>15765631
Weight gain event when?

>>15764839
>>15758601

You are the best anon.

You also have really good luck too, I always get shit from the gacha

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>>15765987

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>>15765987
>>15766190
Why is Sumika so disgusting?

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>>15766214

>>15735647
What happened to the plush?!

>>15766270

They finished designing the plush a while ago. I'm guessing mass production of the Destroyer will begin alongside the other physical goods.

>>15765987
Preferably as long as the gal in >>15765131 is involved. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen any WG fan art of Muv-Luv gals.

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Happy birthday Marimo-chan

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>>15766326
They might be done with plushies already. Those dumb low quality jackets were mass produced already. I think Codex and Vita stuff still need mass producing.

>>15766445
Happy birthday mad dog

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>roll for waifu
>get her
Now I have no more gens to roll.

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>>15766932
That's too bad. Iris is fucking hot and it sucks that someone who doesn't like her rolled her. Well, yet another scene that will never see the light of day.

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>>15766932
Happy Birthday Marimo

>>15764223
I fuck her on the spot, like the fucking bitch ass whore she is. Then I dump my hot thick creamy load into her womb. I finish off by raping her tits with a violent paizuri. We do all this shit on top of a bar counter.

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>>15766229
The anatomical incorrectness plague is spreading!

>>15767145
Dude, just go to pornhub or something. Who cares if an anime tiddy has nipples or not? Also you've clearly never seen a girl take her shirt off like that, because sometimes the nips aren't visible until the tiddy flops down.

>>15767145
Look at >>15766945

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>>15767584
Why are you so obsessed with anime nipples, dude? If it triggers your autism every time someone doesn't draw one, maybe you should find a new hobby.

>>15767155
>Dude, just go to pornhub or something.

No character attachment there.

>Who cares if an anime tiddy has nipples or not?

It started with them, removing them when there is no damn reason whatsoever to is completely UNACCEPTABLE! Besides, they went to the trouble to remove them from artwork that had them when they imposed that policy, they should have no problem doing the opposite.

>you've clearly never seen a girl take her shirt off like that, because sometimes the nips aren't visible until the tiddy flops down.

Look at their shape, retard; THEY'RE ALREADY DOWN!

>>15767170
So where are the corrections for artwork where it was omitted under that asinine self-censorship policy?

>>15767605
Sorry, jumped the gun.

>If it triggers your autism every time someone doesn't draw one

There's a qualifier: omission when and where there was none before, especially if there's no reason for suddenly omitting them in the first place.

>>15767620
It's called an All-Ages version. It reaches a wider audience that way.

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>>15767631
Yet Schwarzesmarken was published in a magazine that runs Lilithsoft's stuff.

>>15767631
The fortified suits, dammit!

>>15767634
This is what pisses me the hell off. Just look at what happened to Lise and Sylwia in the story; it was never fit to be passed off as All-Ages in the first place! Censoring the fortified suits was a completely meaningless gesture!

>>15767701
>Censoring the fortified suits was a completely meaningless gesture!

Not to mention more than just a little insulting.

>>15767620
I do know what you mean, either draw it in a way that what needs to be censored is censored or just draw what is there. Don't half ass the art, ruins it

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>>15766190
>>15766229
Sumika is lovely

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Can a manlet with a small d satisfy a mad dog?

>>15768224
Mad Dog only cares about her Highness. Fucking fanatic belongs to the nuthouse.

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>>15768224
it's fine, when Marimo in the mood of eating out with another man

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>>15768668
Hibiki probably is the better option for Marimo anyways. I could see the two of them having a relationship, whereas with Takeru, it'd be purely physical.

>>15768820
They aged well.

>>15768820
>dreams of having cowtits
>is flat
How does Kasumi cope with it?

>>15769147
By unifying humanity and becoming its supreme leader.

>>15768820
Why are Kasumi's eyes blue now?

>>15769168
The Spice.

>>15768820
Is yuuko still alive and does she still have her good looks?

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>>15769242
See >>15763910

Did the swimsuit cards get posted?

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What do you think about these space TSFs?

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>>15770737

>>15770737

Head will appeal to people who like sharp angles. IMO a bit of an odd construction on the torso though, like the cockpit hatch was added as an afterthought. Need to see the rest of the body to make a proper decision.

>>15770740

Slightly disappointed design-wise; it's more boxy than I expected it to be, and doesn't look more like, say, the Vaikul. Otherwise, mostly just another flavor of XG-70.

>>15764223
Give her a combat knife paizuri.

>>15770737
Show them the 8 gens or the Beta TSF

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>>15770842

>>15770740

Of course they rice it up with a spoiler, otherwise the chinese girl wouldn't suck you off...

>>15770737
>>15770740
Way too overdesigned.

>>15770845

Even having never played Strike Frontier, I can recognize one or two of the designs that first came up in it. Tower O' Eyeballs and Titties Howitzer, were they? Hamhands is either under that big fat purple spoiler star or else it's not on the same page.

The one on the bottom left looks interesting though, looks like some kind of walking Laser BETA battle tank.

>>15770845
Whats going on with this image? Why are the images blocked?

>>15771368
So whats up with the goofy way the hammer heads bunny hop around everywhere? I can't imagine them in the VNs proper let alone an anime moving like they do in SF its just too clownish

>>15771408
Buy buy buy consume.

>>15766945
If only someone would ask for them, Here's the first scene. http://imgur.com/a/TU0FP

>>15769242
Yes. Here's a Jap's comment about it:

中身の写真は張りづらいので、文章だけで頑張って語る。

まずは霞とイーニァ。漫画読んだ時に「若すぎない?50年近く経ってるんだぞ?」と思ったが、遺伝子的な処置を受けて若いままらしい。可愛らしいらしいロリババアが誕生していた。ついでに夕呼先生も似たような処置を受けていて若い? まま。桜花作戦後、夕呼先生はいろんな政争に関わって世界を裏から操っていたそうだ。

-http://0range.hatenablog.com/entry/2017/08/12/180000

She's a transhuman. She tampered with her genes, so she's still in her prime even though she's close to being 80. No granny Yuuko for you.

>>15771872
what a slut cock teaser

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>>15770842
>Beta TSF
Okay.

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>>15771911
Normally, I dump these on /a/ because they're less hostile to dumps than /m/, but that thread is dying.

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>>15771914

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>>15771916
8th generation TSF.

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>>15771918
Didn't mean to spoil that. Well, whatever.

And one more of the BETA TSF hybrid that the baddies are using.

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>>15771911
>>Beta TSF

>>15771921
>And one more of the BETA TSF hybrid that the baddies are using.

I assume this means that the bad guys have sunk to directly using BETA biotech?

>tfw they skipped the local BETA eradication and went straight to space

>>15765659
Meiya CG
http://imgur.com/a/qEpaM

>>15771872
Cute.

>>15771911
Would Class-TSF be the name of it?

>>15771934
>no body hair

WHY.jpg

>>15772361
Using same name for enemies as your own equipment and hardware would be to confusing for soldiers during heat of combat to properly point out proper targets and explain situation.

Maybe Tactical-class? Or Bootleg-Class?

>>15772369
One of Haruka's sets is the only one to get pubic hair. It fucking sucks.

Lise swimsuit complete. Sorry if the same CG repeat. Vairation of CG is confusing. I think I'll just post the last scene's CG next time. http://imgur.com/a/F17le

>>15772652
Usually, I don't find Lise to be that sexually attractive, but this was pretty hot.

>>15772652
The last two CGs are identical. Did you upload the wrong one? Usually, there's a cumshot at the end of these scenarios, which is missing here.

>>15772652
Is that soap or cum? I will never like Lise. She's everything I dislike about a girl rolled into one.

>>15772942
Beatrix is worse though.

>>15772949
You mean the best. Only Pham is better.

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reminder that best girl is alive(as a robot) and they never bothered to make another s00mika.

Meiyafags 1 - S00mikafags nill

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>>15767145

>>15772942
well fuck you too, Lise is everything I like about a girl rolled into one, but opinions gonna opinion I guess

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>>15772652
Thank you anon, its good.

>>15771914
>>15771916
>>15771918
>>15771921

Oh shit, this looks pretty cool. New mecha with new baddies to go along with them, though the Beta TSFs kinda remind me of the copycat mecha the Gauna made in Knights of Sidonia. Still nifty, now I really wanna see how this Alternative sequel plays out.

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>>15772965

Inia swimsuit. http://imgur.com/a/zdctF
>>15772877
It is a mistake and that is the last shot.
>>15772942
Soap of course.

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>>15773837

>>15771911
>>15771914
>>15771916
Oh yeah, another question: These are all BETA, right? They still haven't shown any hints of what the Siliconians might look like, or any Siliconian ships/cities/mecha (if applicable)?

>>15773066
Did they seriously resurrect Meiya for sequel?

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>>15773915
They're BETA.

>shitsmarken trash will be all forgotten with alt sequel and lost arcadia

Feels good

>>15773845
great granny yuuku looking like she in her early 30's all is right with the world. would romance.

>>15773945
And how too? She was evaporated.

>>15774049
blood samples combined with russian cloning tech.

>>15774057
Calling bullshit, unless you can show me where her name is mentioned in the text in context with the art.

>>15771914
>because they're less hostile to dumps than /m/
Didn't /m/ used to be the better place for information and dumps?

>>15773066
Who is that esper? An adult Inia with Cryska's body?

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>>15773845
I fixed it for you.

>>15774092
les enfant terrible project.

>>15774078
Just look at her vents>>15774092

>>15774118
>no cloned bratty savior to fuck Meiya
feels sad man

>>15774118
That's just the artist using the same style to provide a sample for the new designs. Unless you want to say they recloned Cryska too since she's on the right?

>>15774136
clone army from the best soldiers of the past.

>>15774141
sooo we are going to get takeru clone?
or is he still banish from existence?

>>15774170
probably gets called back from the void for more missions.

>>15774193
I have enough of Takeru. Let them give us someone new protagonist for this.

>>15774199
there are no protagonists greater than takeru...other than takeru from TDA

>>15774199
takeru/every main girl clone protagonist.

>>15774201
Kurogane being transported into future alternative when?

>>15774199
But Takeru has the best monologues

>>15774225
That actually sounds kind of awesome.