Kamen Rider Ex-Aid 41

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I fucking love this cast.

Nico looked cute this episode

Also Dan went a little too Dan, otherwise good episode

This episode made a lot of the plot of the last couple ones feel more like filler meant to extend the show to fit the last few episodes, with reset happening, the movie tie-ins, and getting the Hyper Muteki gashat back immediately anyways.

But it was fun filler I guess.

So they want to beat Chronicle without Lovrica's trophy?
Are those three made of stupid?

How does the reset work?

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>>15732874

>>15732873
Cronus gave it to them in ep 39

>>15732873
They got the Lovrica trophy after he was deleted.

>>15732831

Call me slow but I just realized Saki's data is still preserved

>Literally spent all night and 10 lives just to come up with a save feature

>>15732874
It's a shitty plot device that Masamune can use to stay around as the main villain. Don't think too hard about how it works because the writers didn't either.

>>15732880
He was trying to come up with a good design

>>15732876
>>15732877
And we have RESET to back before they got it.

>>15732887

They got it BEFORE Hyper Muteki was created

>That Emu and Parad brofist into MBXX
>That double transformation into MMX and Perfect Knockout

It's everything I wanted from super co-op play.

>>15732887
Maybe it only resets things that are a direct result of Muteki

Pretty bullshit though

>>15732888
first use was 36

>>15732892
well fuck me then.

>>15732888
No, Masamune gave it to them as advanced payment to beat Parad in 39. Muteki was created in 36.

>>15732887
Dan could just make a new one

>>15732892
>Maybe it only resets things that are a direct result of Muteki
If Graphite's gemdeus infection progress was reset as well as the proto gasshats being with Cronus then the all progress including gassahtrophies should be reset.

>>15732900
Why couldn't Dan just make all of them so no collecting?

>>15732900
Kuroto can't because he doesn't have the master Chronicle Gasshat.

>>15732900
Dan woudn't give them it because he wants KRC to go worldwide and never end.

>>15732906
Uhh... he did. remember episode 31 (Doremifa Beat)? Or this episode (Perfect Puzzle and Knockout Fighter)?

>>15732911
Because they did "defeat" those bugsters. They never did that for Tokimeki Crisis.

>>15732913
>They never did that for Tokimeki Crisis.
they did defeat him while Poppy as still mind controlled. He even disappeared from the show for a little while

So technically they earned it already

Save?!

But this is an ONLINE game, mom!

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How many ド's does it take to defeat Cronus?

>>15732916
No, they didn't earn it.
Again it's a massive plot hole.

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>>15732873
If Chronicle reset the trophies he could neve rearn them to beat Gamedeus

It is a feature

>>15732934
Lovrica is dead so they can't earn it. The only way they got it in the first place was because Cronus gave it to them as an advance payment for killing Parad. They reset to back before they got it and now shouldn't have it.

>>15732942
If the action was reset, it doesn't have to be.

lets say you are a rider player who earned Chronus level. You beat Lovrica but then have to reset before that, well now you lost it. You wouldn't be able to complete to use reset without constantly losing trophies

>>15732946
But they are items like keys and not achievements so that doesn't work.

>>15732929
>they didn't earn it.
well they beta him

>Again it's a massive plot hole.
Not really, you can say it is a minor one but saying it didn't reset that isn't some story destroying thing. It also didn't reset their memories and the world wasn't shown to all go back.

Basically it is a poorly explained power that lets them get away with a lot

>>15732947
>But they are items like keys and not achievements
Doesn't matter, there is no rule saying it must reset all items.

Again, if it reset getting trophies it would fuck up the game for rider players.

>>15732948
>Again it's a massive plot hole.
>Not really, you can say it is a minor one but saying it didn't reset that isn't some story destroying thing.
Considering that it's one of the last keys that they are using to call down an unbeatable enemy to end KRC rather than the original plan of getting the master Gasshat and shutting the game off that is a pretty big deal.

>>15732952
But that item not being reset, which nothing says it must be isn't. This doesn't ruin the story

>>15732950
>Doesn't matter, there is no rule saying it must reset all items.
EVERYTHING except for that was reset. It should not be exempt. Even stuff like Masamune having the majority of the proto gasshats and Graphite's control of his gemdeus infection was reset so having that trophy should have also been reset.
>Again, if it reset getting trophies it would fuck up the game for rider players.
Masamune did that when he deleted Lovrica to keep KRC going eternally.

>>15732958
>EVERYTHING
Again nope, they didn't forget the events and we don't know the full extent

>Masamune
Wasn't the one to make chronicle and decide how it works. Dan did, who wasn't making an unbeatable game.

So I guess we are going to just ignore that enemies that are killed in KRC can still respawn? It has happened multiple times.
>Graphite's data was corrupted by Gemdeus, so now his death is permanent now.
I know the will never explain that in the show, like 90% of the stupid shit that keeps being ignored during the KRC arc.so I came up with an explanation for you.

>>15732952
What kind of game only every lets you beat it once anyway? Sure, every current player would be cured. But it should be able to be retarded and steadily build up the player base again.

>>15732913
If anyone can defeat them to allow Kuroto to make a trophy, why do they need Nico at all?

>>15732964
I think they just don't want to revived him at all

Wait so if the Reset gave Masamune all the proto-gashats again, doesn't that mean he has proto-Bakusou Bike now? Couldn't he just straight-up erase Kiriya's data?

And does this mean Saki's data has been restored?

>>15732983
reset was a shitty idea, don't think about it

>>15732983
>Wait so if the Reset gave Masamune all the proto-gashats again, doesn't that mean he has proto-Bakusou Bike now? Couldn't he just straight-up erase Kiriya's data?
Yes
>And does this mean Saki's data has been restored?
Unfortunately yes.

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we found the new origin point

>>15732983
He might try it considering next episode looks to have some focus on him

>>15732983
Don't try and make sense of Ex-Aid at this point, Writer-san bit off more than he can chew.

>Gemdeus infecting everyone in the preview
>Doctor Mighty XX shown off

Guess that solves that problem.

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>>15732989
but seriously, isn't this where the origin point Nanaha was found in Amazons 2?

>>15732983
Kiriya was released from the Proto-Bakusou Bike Gashat, so his data isn't there anymore to delete. This happened before Hyper Muteki.

As for Saki's data, as much as I wish for Ex-Aid's deaths to actually stick, that does seem to be the case sadly.

>>15732962
>Again nope, they didn't forget the events and we don't know the full extent
Everything PHYSICAL including gasshats was rest. SO they shouldn't have that trophy.
>Wasn't the one to make chronicle and decide how it works. Dan did, who wasn't making an unbeatable game.
And Masamune fucking it up by permakilling a boss to prevent the drop item from spawning.

>>15732983
>Couldn't he just straight-up erase Kiriya's data?
Kiriya is already out of the fashat

>And does this mean Saki's data has been restored?

oh god please no

>people were complaining about Masamune being inefficient last time a la plot hole
>today's episode had to spell it out for those fags how it's more of a character flaw, which has been obvious since Kuroto Dan's appearance

>>15733000
I'm not sure but he may be able to pull him back in, but doing so would be hard with Emu back at full power.

Plus having a save might change things

So Ex-aid is going to be the rider show with 0 death consequences.

>>15733002
You haven't proven everything in the world did. Cause you can't.

Able to change one aspect doesn't mean he can change every part of the game to his wim.

>>15733006
Poppy is the only killer

>>15733006
>0 death consequences

The consequence of you dying is you don't come back. A copy has been made for Kiriya and Kuroto, those are not the actual people. They're still dead.

There are consequences.

>>15733011
>Able to change one aspect doesn't mean he can change every part of the game to his wim.
Yes he can. He has the master Gasshat so he can manipulate the game to his whim.

>>15733004
This. The Dans just have an issue with one track minds and god complexes.
BOTH of them could have accomplished their goals if they didn't go full retard and overextend

>>15732988
no, Masamune released Kiriya already

>>15732992
if you actually pay attention, it isn't really complicated

see >>15733004


>>15733006
ITT someone doesn't grasp the concept of death, despite the characters in the show outright stating that they're dead, they're defying life, etc.

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This was an amazing thing that almost rivals Tendou's proclamations.

>>15733033
The use of dangerous zombie riff was great this episode

>>15733022
>complicated
Never said it's complicated, just that it's incredibly sloppily written and contrived.

>>15733038
So toku

>>15733038
how is it sloppily written and contrived if it is consistent?

seriously, how hard is it to get that "Masamune didn't one-shot his enemies because of his megalomania and his idea that he's in control"? And this shit isn't even new as it's a common thing among villains

and think about it - while people joke on this trope a lot, if you actually have power plus the ego and megalomania, you'd go on a power trip rather than being efficient

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>>15733033

>>15733018
The problem is that they practically are the same character. No one acknowledges that the Bugster copies are not the actual people and just copies. Not that I'm expecting a kid's show to get weirdly philosophical about that, but it essentially just comes off as a way to cheat death.

It'll get even sillier if Saki really is brought back, since that ruins the sacrifice Hiiro made to save Taiga.

>>15733051
>No one acknowledges that the Bugster copies are not the actual people and just copies.
>immediately forgetting that scene two episodes ago

anon, Emu is literally fighting against the idea of being reborn as a bugster/data, even fucking Kiriya is against it

>>15733051
Emu does, in fact it is a huge thing for him. Chances are the people brought back will be made real through some bullshit. Probably thay new gashat

>>15733053
at this point I'm going to expect every poster in ex-aid threads to have short term memories

or at least, I am finally seeing the audience on shows that like to repeat the same plot details over and over again, like Power Rangers Mega Force

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>>15733048
>>15733033
>>15733037
oh lord

>>15733058
It is a problem when people notice an issue in any plot, they then assume anything they get wrong is a world destroying plot hole

>>15733051
>>15733053
Guy, this argument doesn't even matter. They will all be revived as regular flesh and blood humans by the end of the show.

>>15733068
I mean, their complaints would have been valid if the show has finished running.

Also if you noticed, some guy just forgot what was stated two episodes ago, so I really consider it as short term memory. I guess I can see why people shittalk Zyuohger too - they forget all the cool stuff in that show immediately. It's why I don't believe or take the criticism "forgetful" seriously.

>>15733073
Yeah like you were sure about Kuroto being Cronus am I right?

>>15733080
I never thought that.

>>15733080
He still might be!

>>15733082
Yeah right.

>>15733077
Remind me how people complaining about how kuroto can transform in episode 30 with no explanation since he got reprogrammed and shit

except the show explain it in the very next episode

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>>15733063
wait seriously? Dan has a computer than can make your game ideas real?

fuck

>>15733053
>>15733055
Emu's qualm with revival isn't about them being copies though, it's about the fact that to him, it cheapens the value of life. He says in the episode that Kuroto is revived as a bugster that life is precious because you don't have any continues.

>>15733095
anon I want you to think what you posted towards Nico's state

if he just allowed Dan's shit to happen, he essentially cheapened Nico's life

pls anon, don't be dense or pretending to be dense

What Masamune's wish is the time before the existence of Muteki Gashat.

>>15733095
Just because he thinks they still have worth after doesn't mean the process doesn't cheapen life.

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>>15733098

This was a good episode and a lot of people are thinking way to hard for a childrens/housewives show

>>15733110
remember anon

anons tend to miss details a Japanese child could pick up so easily

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I am really doubting that the actors aren't having fun doing this scene.

>>15733120
Everyone seemed to have fun on this show

>>15733110
My problem this episode is completely ignoring that Bugsters can revive indefinitely, for the second time, this episode. Am I supposed to assume literally every character is assuming Graphite can't be revived by Parad again?

>>15733124
Especially Dan's actor. And his suit actor too.

>>15733098
I'm just going off what the show says yo. Not once is it ever hinted that Emu's issue is them being clones or whatever.

>>15733125
What would be the point in reviving him? All he wants to do is fight against humans. He's better off dead, and that's why Parado and Poppy were sad. And if he got reprogrammed, it wouldn't be the Graphite they knew.

>>15733125
Can they after being beat proper and gave out a trophy? Plus I think they need a bugvisor (possibly old model) + data

>>15733125
Masamune controls Bugster life anon.

>>15733132
He has no issues of them being clones, but at the same time he has issues of people becoming clones. There's a reason he's against ending Nico's life.

>>15733132
>What would be the point in reviving him?
Parad is still friends with him.
>>15733135
>Can they after being beat proper and gave out a trophy?
Yes. It happened plenty of times with the low level bugsters.
>>15733136
>Masamune controls Bugster life anon.
He isn't very good at it.

>>15733144
Actually he's been very good at it, he forced Parado and Graphite to go in the defensive and the lower bugsters were forced to go in line.

>>15733144
No they stopped appearing when a trophy was given, which took till Nico started fighting not beat in general

Otherwise they'd be summoned for multiple pre chronus fights

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Dan went maximum overham this episode, good shit.

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>they had to patch a fucking SAVING SYSTEM

shittiest game ever

>>15733154
>>15733155
kamidamind

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>>15733151
This image was in episode 32.
We have seen multiple bugsters since then. Most recently. Girigiri Chambara was in episode 37.

>>15733144
>Parad is still friends with him.
Just parad though.

Hiiro, Taiga and Nico treats graphite just like any deadly virus. They won't approved it

Also, is there any other purple bugvisor left? Lovelica's one disintegrate with him and Graphite's were picked by I AM GOD. So probably no revival

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fuck

>>15733170
>tfw your OC donut steel made it

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Can Ex-Aid & Friends rescue Dwayne Johnson and Jack Black from the world of Jumanji?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAWTZVpvPrQ

>>15733144
You mean the guy who straight up refused to be reasoned with and fighting riders made him happy? Which they saw and understood

>>15733136
Yes, because Emu values life and thinks revival cheapens it. Not because Kiriya's a copy and not the person he used to know or whatever.

This distinction is important because this argument started with people defending the revivals as "oh they're actually dead, it's just their copies". Technically true but the show treats them as the same characters and no one at all acknowledges them being copies. That's why it feels like there's not much consequences from them dying.

>>15733144
Parado is also on the side of humanity now. Even if he wanted to revive Graphite, it's not like the rest of the crew would let him.

>>15733175
Being a copy is revival, the actof becoming a copy does cheapen life to him and he wants to avoid that. Thst doesn't mean he will try to get rid of all copies

>>15733179
That's what I'm saying, yes.

>>15733175
>"oh they're actually dead, it's just their copies"

they are dead, they're essentially bugsters, that's the whole point, they're not the same as before

>>15733154

You just know they're gonna get the crane out one of these days just so they can get a background shot of him doing a 30 degree lean.

So does nico just stand there watching brave and snipe fight graphite the whole night?

>>15733185
They're bugsters now, but the show doesn't treat them as different characters, eg Bugster Kuroto is blamed and has to atone for Human Kuroto's crimes. There's no negative consequences shown for becoming a bugster; in fact it actually seems beneficial as you get more powers. That's why the revivals in Ex-Aid can bother people.

>>15733195
Nico is like level 20 watching a level 100 and level 50 take on a guy who is level 100 or higher.

Staying out and just jumping in to killsteal is the only sensible thing to do in that situation.

>>15732997
Huh. Thought that place looked familiar

>>15733195
thats what i usually do in monster hunter coop

>>15733216
No i mean doesn't she sleep, or eat, or something?

>>15733218
It's also the yggdrasil nursery in gaim gaiden 1

>>15733221
She's a nurse watching two doctors operate. Of course she doesn't until the surgery is done.

>>15733233
Nico isn't a nurse

>>15733221
If she is a pro gamer, she should be used to play games all night without break.

>>15733215
I'm just worried that if the show does end up reviving the lost ride players (which is a possible option), then it would cause one shitstorm debate on necromancy.

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>>15733117
Ho boy, Ex-Aid is suddenly the show people miss details in huh? That's one thing from this show won't miss.

>>15733249
>suddenly

anon it's been the case since gaimbabbies coming in from Gaim

>Hype a fight
>fight in question is shit

Otherwise it was good

>>15733249
This image is reminding me of how much I miss Dan being the main antagonist.

>>15733215
They still aren't human and they are reminders to Emu's Failures.

>>15733236
She is now.

>>15732858
To be fair the only two things reset changed were that Masamune got his gashat back and the hyper muteki loss which lead to the Graphite drama this episode. So only the fact that the fight resulted in cronicle gashat being destroyed was lost by reset.
The movie tie in is not really filler, just not relevant to the main show.

>>15732858
>filler
Those episodes are meant to give development/closure to Hiro/Parad.

>>15732878
It shouldn't be, since Masamune extracted and deleted it.

>>15732905
He seems to be able to only make trophies for the ones he could interact with safely, namely Parado and Poppy. There's probably some data extraction involved.

>>15733291
It is the protogashat's being stolen got reset. It is possible Saki got reset too since that happened first.

>>15732831
What utility do you guys recommend for torrenting on Mac? Kissasian isn't working for me and the last two times I tried to just google one it messed with a lot of my browser settings.

>>15733291
The world got reset to before she was deleted so she's gonna be revived.

>>15733300
He reset it to when Hyper Muteki wasn't a thing, Saki was already out of it then. For what it's worth, only things that work in a game area (Drivers, Gashats, Bugsters) seem to have reset, other things (real people, Gashatrophies which don't actually do anything, maybe Saki, since she's just data, not actually a Bugster yet) appear to be unaffected.

They should've killed Heart in the amazing blaze of glory Graphite got

Did lovlica's gashatrophy appear in the group of trophies?

perhaps this explains a few things.

"True Ending" I assume is the timeline if Chronus didn't use "Reset" perhaps it is like this

>Red Gemdeus = Lovlica trophy
>Black Gemdeus = Lovlica trophy

>>15733311
Gashatrophies can be reset, since Chronos tried to reset them before Emu stopped him.

Saki wasn't deleted until after Hyper Muteki, so it's plausible for her data to have been restored.

>>15733315
It did. Them still having Lovelica's trophy really is a plot hole, at least for now.

>>15733312
>We won't get Kamen Rider Graphite

>>15733320
The only thing I could think of for Lovelica's trophy is by treating Gashatrophies as essentially achievements that stick with a Ride Player through Resets, otherwise they'll never finish KRC as Cronus if they keep disappearing. It's probably tied to Nico's account, or something.

>Worrying about the plothole in the non-canon ending.

Feels like I'm in Silent HIll threads again.

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>>15733170
>Poppy and Gemdeus are the only Bugsters that Kuroto is fond of even though he made them all

What a cunt.

>>15733320
Thinking about it what was he even trying to reset? Them getting any trophies or just the latest?

>>15733320
Just a thought here, could gashatrophies just be like achievement trophies? Game mechanics; reset a game but they don't reset.

>Plot hole
>possibility of Writer-san explaining it.

It will probably happen.

>>15732831
It's weird that I can say that I've had to do this at work isn't it?

>>15733335
He rolled back the server to before Muteki was a thing. At that point:
-KRC Master Gashat wasn't broken
-Riders had their respective Drivers
-Saki was already out of DKHZ
-Masamune in possession of the Proto-Gashats

The only sticking point is the Tokimeki Crisis Gashatrophy, but it can be assumed there's safeguards in place for them, otherwise all other Ride Players would be screwed over if one of them managed to become Cronus and used Reset carelessly.

Did Hiiro lose Taddle Legacy too?

>>15733330
>>15733339
Gashatrophies can presumably be reset since that's what Cronus was trying to do. We even saw them jolt back a bit before Emu intervened.

>>15733352
To be fair, something that punishing is completely in character for Kuroto.

>>15733354
Did you watch the fucking episode

>>15733355
Ah, I thought he was trying to roll back to an earlier "save" hence the need for ShinDanKuroto to make essentially their own saves.

>>15733354
Hiro got Taddle Legacy before Muteki. He just couldn't use it back then.

>>15733352
I mean the second reset

>>15733355
Kuroto actually wants the game completed though, and some bullshit like rewards randomly disappearing might actually discourage people from playing, which is what he doesn't want.

>>15732874
Bite the dust

>>15733369
it isn't like chronicle is a very well thought out game to begin with

>>15733375
Well Emu originally make the concept of Mighty Bros. C(hronicle) when he was a small child.

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>>15732997
good eye mate

>>15733380
You're an idiot.

>>15733355
Presumably he can only reset their activation, but not the trophies themselves.

>>15733367
Probably the very start of Chronicle, since he did say "do everything all over again."

>>15733375
That's what you get when the creator is killed near the end of the project and a couple of disgruntled employees and a meddling CEO step in and make changes.

>>15733380
no he didn't he drew mighty brothers, Dan made it in an autistic fit like he makes everything

>>15733388
Wouldn't he be back in jail, just with everyone knowing he was a dick? I guess it could just be reset to when he got out

>>15733390
He drew mighty bros separately from the might game C that he sent to Dan.

>>15733401
Are you just trying to poorly bait people, or are you actually this dumb that you can't follow a few, very simple, sentences from a children's show?

>>15733392
The first reset didn't have anyone change places, why would the second be any different

>>15733369
Well they wouldn't be randomly disappearing, just if you carelessly reset.

Plus players were expected to fight for like 15 years to build up enough antibodies to even use Cronus, so it's safe to say Kuroto's game design isn't exactly that sensible.

>>15733387
Judging by the line "you'll have to do it all over again!" it sounds like that yeah it actually resets the trophies.

>>15733392
It doesn't seem to reset people's actual locations, only game-related objects? Since Emu and Parado were still hanging around after the first reset. I wish they went with an actual time loop instead of this weird psuedo-reset. It feels like it was only added to pad out the show a little more.

>>15733392
Reset doesn't work on people, time, or memories, just game states. He'll still be out and about.

>>15733410
>It feels like it was only added to pad out the show a little more.
It was added to branch the show from the トゥルーエンディング

>>15733410
They'd be randomly disappearing for the other players that don't run around with the Cronus user. Imagine sitting at your desk planning your next move, when all of a sudden, all your hard earned Gashatrophies disappeared just because some chuckle-fuck downtown decided to solo the final boss and got his ass kicked.

Dan is a man with ((((godly)))) talent
>Couldn't think of coop
>Couldn't be half assed to add a save feature

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>>15733423

>>15733173
but they arent really The rock and Jack black, they are the avatars of that group of whiny kids.

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>>15733423
he did create a computer virus that infects humans which then creates physical beings including monsters to fight

also created life as well

>>15733423
It's in character for him to be so completely up his own ass that he doesn't realize his talent isn't as cracked up or as special as he thinks it is.

>>15733423
MMOs usually don't allow saving.

>>15733410
>Judging by the line "you'll have to do it all over again!" it sounds like that yeah it actually resets the trophies.
It could also mean that he was planning to reset the activation, pause, then steal all the trophies back.

>>15733429
Actually he just found the virus. He didn't even know what would happen if he infected someone with it, since he was planning to kill kid Emu with the damn thing.

>>15733392
>Actually pulls off the Reset
>Gets steamrolled by the now Reprogramming free Lovelica

>>15733006
No. That's Ghost.

>>15733422
The Gashatrophies are to summon Gemdeus. There'd be no point in collecting them once he's been summoned. Whoever unlocked Cronus would be the one getting all the Gashatrophies at that point anyway.

>>15733419
Isn't that essentially an epilogue released before the show actually ends, not an actual timeline split?

>>15733443
Ideally, you'd have several players competing to be Cronus, so when one wins but commits a stupid mistake and gets deleted, the game wouldn't grind to a screeching halt.

>>15733442
People actually died and stayed dead in Ghost.

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I need one gif of Kiriya throming the papers out of the table. Just that.

Still a bit bummed about Graphite not turning into Gemdeus but his send-off was satisfying enough anyway so can't really complain.

Still the best Bugster design too, Gemdeus looks like shit.

>>15733443
>Isn't that essentially an epilogue released before the show actually ends, not an actual timeline split?
Was this actually confirmed? I don't usually follow summer movie news, and I assumed it was the latter judging from this episode.

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>>15733455

>>15733125
>My problem this episode is completely ignoring that Bugsters can revive indefinitely
mostly only if they never fully formed and as infections to civilians. Remember Graphite was dead for good until Parad brought him back with Chronicle, and considering how he went out fighting against Masamune (the guy currently in control of Chronicle), and with Gemdeus showing up signalling the coming end to Chronicle it's not at all likely he'll be brought back.

>>15733459
Maxima walks off with the Bugvisor in this episode. The movie's part of the show.

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So when will you stop sperging abot minor plotholes and discuss actual meaninful stuff like Kiriya riding himself?

>>15733470
>a bike wearing a bike riding another bike

>>15733470
Was the last time that Bakusou Bike's motorcycle form was used when Emu rode it at the episode after MBXX's debut?

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These last stretch of episodes for Ex-Aid make me think that maybe it did need like 3 more. The reset plot device feels like it could have been fleshed out but really it's just an excuse to get Muteki out of the plot for an episode.

Then there is Graphite who does nothing for most of the show, but then they try to develop him at the last minute. At least his send-off was nice, the show needed him to do more so his declaration to Poppy and Parrad has more weight. That's a problem with the Bugster plot in general though.

Kiriya and Dan continue to be the best parts of the show.

>>15733473
Technically it's in Lazer's HBV.

>>15733459
I think you are perhaps right thinking that, since on toei's site, in the highlight section of this episode, it says the reset is where it begins to diverge for the true ending movie.

>>15733470
They knew we were lacking rider action. So they gave us x3 the bike action.

>>15733302
Qbittorrent and mpv

>>15733478
Tetsuya Iwanaga almost makes Masahiro Inoue feel normal by comparison.

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*autistic screeching*

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>>15733507

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>>15733125
I think multiple things in this scenario play into why. Mainly, perhaps Graphite wants to stay dead at least until Chronicle is over. He sticks very adamantly to the original rules coded into Kamen Rider Chronicle. So as a villain in KRC, he will honor the loss and stay out of the game. Furthermore, the VR guy took his Bugvisor, which is where his data would return to. Even if he does know how to operate it, he is probably just going to use it to fish out the Gemndeus we see in True Ending.

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>>15733507

Reset is a server rollback for the game itself, nothing to do with time.

I don't know how it tracks achievements like the Lovelica Gashatrophy, but it seems like anything related to unlocking Gemdeus can't be modified.

You see this when Cronus tries to Reset and it still ignores him and unlocks Gemdeus anyways.

That should be everyone's answer. It's not a plothole, they show it literally in the show that Reset doesn't affect the Gashatrophies.

/krg/ come on.

>>15733599
That was because they saved right before the reset happened.

>>15733599
That was because they saved, actually. What we don't know is if the reset would make the trophies disappear completely, or go back to their baggies on Nico's bagstrap.

My own answer is simply that Reset does not un-do any of Cronus' own "game" actions while he's transformed.

Masamune gave the CR team the Lovelica gashatrophy as Cronus, ergo that action was not undone.
That was the only time he's personally interacted with gashatrophies as well.

>>15733575
an accurate depiction of half this thread

>>15733599
The reset actually happened - you can see how the scene stutters for a moment and the gashatrophies are about a meter farther from the krc logo. It's just that Emu saved moments before the Reset was made.

>>15733624
It undid his theft of the CR team's Drivers.

>>15732903
Shouldn't Graphites Gamesues infection be immune to ANYTHING the bugvisor can do

>>15733630
It is, but Graphite himself isn't.

>People STILL don't understand how Reset works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=illD9b0fvCU

>>15733630
No, just Pause. Even if you have Cronus, you can't Pause when fighting Gemdeus, you have to beat him with skill.

The answer I'm going with is that Reset was born out of Masamune's frustration and wasn't really under his control at all, so what it did was unpredictable.

>>15732916
It seems Dan can only make a gashatrophy if he has the bugster there in person
Nothing to do with the game clear status
Msamune does however seem to be able to shit out any trophies he wants with the master gashat
All in all the current plot forces us to either
A. Assume trophies are immune to RESET just like achievements are irl
B. Admit tokimeki is a plot hole
All in all its Bandai's fault for forceing reset into the bugvisor

>>15733648
>>15733599
samefag

I wonder if the japanese are as confused as this thread is about Reset

>>15733651
No it's just i went to post without reading the thread
He's right though the Gashatrophies levitated upward, he tried to reset them they broke free of the reset and kept levitating upward, much to his surprise
Reset does not affect the trophies

>>15733667
They didn't "break free", Emu just saved moments before the progress was reset. The stutter wouldn't be there otherwise

Man fuck bandai
But you know what fuck writer san too
He could have just used reset to reset that one specific battle and tell Ex-Aid he was invincible then force Dan to build the save bootysoul to counter it
But he just HAD to go for the drama of Muteki disappearing

>>15733642
I think you might have something here.
The first time Dan Sr. used reset he looked hella confused like he didn't know how it happened. This second reset attempt it's like he got the hang/ understood what his powers can/could do.

>>15733682
He really didn't know how it happened, that's the point.

>>15733665
They're probably more used to getting king fucking crimsoned

>>15733686
Right so it could be an explanation to some gaps in what's affected or why and maybe this time he meant to do an actual full reset instead his soft earlier save point to get rid of muteki.

>>15733675
>drama
It wasn't even gone long enough for it to be dramatic. Oh wow Muteki is gone, oh no we don't have it for half an episode and we had to flee from a fight.

Reset was a copout.

>>15733682
I feel that there was suppose to be another episode that would've been RESET focused, but simply didnt have time for.

What is it with Rider the past few years and these wet noodle endgame arcs that just drag on and on for too long?

>>15733671
but save saved the players so they dont lose their gashats.

the only way it makes sense is lovelica's gashatrophy was immune to reset, aka all of them were immune just like shown in the end of the episode.

>>15733729
Oh no, I do think Tokimeki Crisis is a plothole - but that visual cue is too blatant to ignore.

Lets sum up the issues with Lovelica trophy cause people are tripping over themselves now. The base is reset should have taken it away, it was given after Muteki was created and used

Now the trophies may normal not be reset, but a save was required this episode to keep them. We do see them jerk back to this save state. We also see other none Muteki stuff like Graphite gameaids.

Dan's ability to create trophies is unclear, he may need the bugster present and the episode doesn't state he made a new one. It is still possible he could.

Chronus also gets hit with the reset, he loses the game drivers he stole.

How much reset effects in general is unclear, especially because it doesn't undo everything otherwise none of them would be in the same location or likely alive. Basically the events happen but at least some of the outcomes never did. It is possible giving the trophy was not an event that lost the outcome.


It can basically just hold onto the ledge of before falling into the plot hole just by saying this reset didn't target or effect trophies but it is certainly weak writing.

>>15733719
Either there wasn't enough set up for the impending climax so the final arc tries to churn out the full narrative hastily, or there were too many plot threads already set up so their resolutions end up condensed and messy.
Finding a middle ground is hard. I blame the toy catalogm

>>15733706
>coupot
It's one of those things pre built in the toy that had to get used
Writer san just went far too COMPLEX with it

>>15733706
It had to vanish, or else Taiga and Hiiro wouldn't go for Graphite anymore, or at least immediately. If Emu had Muteki now, he could end KRC whenever he wants without ever confronting Graphite.

>>15733738
The only way to make sense of it is that reset effects the games progress
>game aids
>Drivers and gashats
but then we run smack dab into the plot holes of nikos infection and, the tokimeki trophey
Another way to interpret it is that it only riles back things Masamune gives a shit about, and that he didn't care about Niko and the trophey just Graphite and muteki
For his character that makes sense but then we run into the plothole of the drivers he stole getting taken
Now our third option is to believe that Masamune has to focus on a certain type of object for reset to effect it,
He focused on a gashat last time reseting all gashats and drivers, and the trophies this time which is why they had to be saved
But if we gi this route Graphites rollback makes zero sense

inb4 everything is explained next episode and our arguing will have been for nothing

>>15733738
Thing is, there is precedent in rewards or achievments sticking around even after resetting a game. What we don't know is if Gashatrophies count as achievements, and if the reset would erase them or just put them back in Nico's bag.

>>15732997

This was also where Melon gaiden took place, fairly sure.

>>15733246
>When deadline is nigh and you realized you are fucked

>>15733768
Even if they did put them in Nikos bag
That means the trophey while still existing would go back to masamune

The episode explains how MovieGuy gets a BugVisor for Gemdeus shenanigans, but with the Game Drivers going back to the CR, how does Hurricane Ninja get used?

Maybe masamune had it in his pocket and dropped it during the fight

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Let's get away from trophieposting for a sec.

Whodo you think that will be Mighty Doctors XX?

From the fight before, colors and nonsense I'd say Kiriya and Kuroto.

>>15732831
We need an hour and half gaiden movie of this madman
I'll be autistically mad if Toei are not going to make a long movie about him

>Graphite was always content being a bugster
>He didn't mind continuously fighting people
>He just never pulled his punches and made you earn what you're looking for

Shit character to decent character in the last episode.

>>15733777
REVERSE ENGINEERING

>>15733773
Man, that must suck for all other Ride Players, since any Gasahtrophy they have might suddenly just vanish if someone used Reset.

WAIT HOW DOES HIRRO HAVE TADDLE FUCKING LEGACY

>>15733797
Don't worry about it.

>>15733795
If anons theory about there creation not being able to be undone ( because they are achievements lol) just there placement, the trophies would go back to whatever parking garage, factory, quarry they spawned in

>>15733785
I'm thinking it will be used solely in finisher slots. Doubt there'd be a new form that's not advertised in the catalog.

>>15733797
For what it's worth, the things Masamune gave away freely stayed where they were, and the things he took and were taken from him switched back to their proper owners. Seems like Reset is an admin function to punish hackers and thieves.

>>15733811
>Doubt there'd be a new form that's not advertised in the catalog.
Yes, because they always telegraph everything that happens in the show.

>>15733481
Masamune not agreeing to collab with Johnny is what causes the divergence, right? Johnny very fucking bluntly says that the True Ending™ can't happen now after that

>>15733797
While confusing since it all went down in episode 35 I think if going by the order of things.... bike boy gets proto back > hero gets fantasy > emu gets hyper muteki.

>>15733811
I didn't think it yould be a new suit,my guess it that its goin to be more like the other suits gaining the magic glow from muteki

>>15733826
Right before that Masamune says "Fate has been reset". Now it may just be metaphorical or what not, but I think it's pointing to a start of what will be different between the movie and the show. Either way have too wait a while to see the intent.

>>15733481
Could you post what you're talking about? I don't see anything about it. As far as I see it, the newest update still claims that the relationship between the tv and the movie ending is a "secret" right now.

It does say that movie Gemdeus is related to Johnny's actions in episode 41 though, and that you'll only be able to realize the true meaning of "True Ending" after watching the tv series up to its own ending.

>>15733826
>VR tech will create something even better than KRC
>when KRC can actually manifest Game World assets into the real world

How does that even begin to figure?

>>15733826
Pretty much, I'm sure Masamune would give Johnny some drivers if he agreed with his stuff.

>>15733906
http://www.toei.co.jp/tv/ex-aid/story/1210164_2606.html

Paragraph under highlight. Reads to me like it talking about two distinct types of endings. Movie may prove me wrong. That whole paragraph feels like a "Sliding Doors" type of thing.

>>15732921
Seriously can someone explain what all those Do's were?

>>15733963
It's a silly edgy way to make a special attack sound more special-er

You do remember who designed Graphite, right?

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>>15732929
Where do you see Loverica on the board? He was never apart of Chronicle. Loverica was only in the show to run GemnCorp before Masamune showed up.

>>15732877>>15732876
>>15732892
>>15732903
>>15732877
The rest of you stop explaining things if you don't know the answers.

>>15733988

>two Riders
>a number of mechanical monsters
>some girl in a pink wig and a dorky edgelord

>>15733940
Oh, you meant last week's update which has some preview information for this episode, not this week's update. Still, if they're claiming in the newest update that the relationship between the movie and the tv show is a mystery, it's pretty clear that isn't meant to really say anything.

Honestly I'm gonna miss this cast the last time I loved a cast this much was OOO's.

>>15734008
A mystery which can be solved by something in this episode.

We won't know what until way later, when spoilers are out for real.

>>15734008
Literally said this week's episode as in episode 41. And all the information for next episode as in episode 42 even further makes me feel it is like a seperation of paths or fates by listing some things that are different from the movie and the tv show. Aaaaand again watching the movie may prove me wrong.

>>15733988
Check the scene though, 13 trophies go up and only 12 are on that board

>>15734037
"もちろんテレビにもしっかりとしたエンディングがありますし、テレビのエンディングと映画のエンディングは別のものです。"
Sorry just finished reading episode 42 on toei, but yea literally says the tv endings and movie endings are different. So thank you.

>>15733971
who ?

>>15732921
I know it's just a silly bit of visual flair, but seeing this was still great.

>>15734070
That was the first time Graphite's gotten one of those, right?

>>15734060
I mean, obviously the tv ending will be different from the movie ending. No one thinks the tv would just redo the movie. what people are speculating is whether the movie will take place after the tv ending or in a throw away pointless alternate timeline that no one will care about after the tv show runs through.

>>15733988
>Where do you see Loverica on the board? He was never apart of Chronicle. Loverica was only in the show to run GemnCorp before Masamune showed up.

Where the hell did he even come from?

>>15734087
He's from an older game that is no longer on the market.

>>15734087
Probably from that one detective's kid who died on Zero Day.

>>15734086
IKR 'cause parallel worlds or timeline splits are always pointless things to explore that no one cares about, especially on a show that talks about changing fate. Always.

>>15734081
Yeah, that's what made it stand out.

>>15734112
That was exactly where he came from.

>>15734118
They never confirmed it, but if you have a brain you can make that connection easily.

Since when is Graphite a MUH GLORY OF FIGHTING character?
And why did they interrupt the climactic fight repeatedly with Dan overusing his jokes?

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>>15734135
Because

>>15734135
I don't think what they did with Graphite was that unreasonable but yeah, it came out of nowhere. He just isn't developed enough a character for any of what he said in this episode to feel particularly heartfelt, maybe a Parad v-cinema might retroactively alleviate that or something.

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>>15733423
COOP GAMES ARE SHIT!
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

>>15734135
His character progression has just been discount Heart. Literally from start to finish.

>>15734086

>>15733481
"Could you post what you're talking about? I don't see anything about it. As far as I see it, the newest update still claims that the relationship between the tv and the movie ending is a "secret" right now."

Huh, obviously you say? I guess I didn't need to backup what I said from Toei. But yea thanks.

>>15734116
There's nothing interesting shown in the True Ending movie's setting to be worthy a parallel world though.

If it really ends up being parallel, it seems closer to Kiva's or OOO's summer movies, where they were just too lazy to make it fit into the show, rather than using the fact that it's not in continuity for some actually interesting divergence, like Faiz's.

>>15734178
>Huh, obviously you say? I guess I didn't need to backup what I said from Toei. But yea thanks.

Did you even reread what you posted?
>in the highlight section of this episode, it says the reset is where it begins to diverge for the true ending movie.

That's not just saying the endings are different, it's claiming that the Toei site confirmed that True Ending is a divergent timeline of sorts. Nothing in the official site says that. The official instance is that the relation between them is a mystery right now.

>>15734208
Let me understand what you are saying. Different endings or outcomes and differences in characters or how things come about are not telling the relationship of the show vs movies? And ... how what that work and not be a branch of some sort?

>>15734135
He's always been a MUH GLORY OF FIGHTING character. That he likes to fight was Graphite's one defining character trait.

>>15734220
>And ... how what that work and not be a branch of some sort?

If the movie takes place after the series, then the "mysteries" or differences from the show pointed out in the site, like Snipe being in the CR, Dan being in jail and no Cronus around are actually just spoilers for the tv ending, and things will become clear and the "true meaning" of "True Ending" will become obvious by the last episode because we'll see the show setting up all that.

On the other hand, if True Ending is just an alternate timeline, all those divergences seem fairly minor, and it doesn't seem like the tv show's own ending would somehow give a new meaning to the movie.

>>15733018
If only they showed some sort of disadvantages or maybe Kiriya having internal struggles about being just data. But no, that would require good writing. So it's easier to just not show any minuses for being revived as data + you get a cool teleportation power. I get Kuroto not caring since he's crazy, but they could have done a lot with Kiriya.

>>15734229
In fact, I'd go so far as to argue that one reason Graphite got killed off for the Dangerous Zombie arc was because it would have made him too similar to Parad once Parad started fighting personally, at least during that period where Parad was hungry to fight anybody. Graphite came back around the point that Parad switched to focusing on Emu specifically for a number of episodes, which was then followed by Cronus showing up so they could be differentiated by their reactions to him: Parad showed fear in the face of death, Graphite didn't. Notice how Graphite's more or less a background character during the few episodes where he's around but Cronus isn't yet, because you can't have two muh tatakae villains, whereas once Cronus showed up there was a difference between Parad and Graphite for them to back-and-forth over.

>>15734235
or showing how fate changes or doesn't change at all. Which is worth an exploration imo since emu is all about changing fate. Which isn't a throw away.

>>15734238
Disadvantages being crazy ppl controling if you live or die, or being to the max characterization shadows of your former sel f

>>15734255
They could have shown it, but nothing like that has been done. Only one time I remember is Kuroto telling Nico that she could just be revived as a Bugster and Kiriya telling him to shut up. Which was most likely because not to stress her, rather than the Bugster life sucking.
For now at least(well I doubt they'll do anything with it in the last 4 episodes) there don't seem to be real disadvantages. They don't question it in a philosophical way like "What does it truly mean to be human?!" nor in a physical way like not being able to eat or sleep or feel emotions or anything. Just SOMETHING would have been better.

>>15734281
You can always infer the issues what with Dad Dan wanting Chronicle to flourish so he can control more lives.

>>15734285
They're breaking Chronicle soon though

>>15733423
Hyper Muteki's whole gimmick is that the main character's invincible to everything, normally it wouldn't need a save feature.

>>15734334
Speaking of Muteki, would you say that Muteki destroyed sense of any form of an external threat/tension such as Cronus and Gemdeus to the point where Masamune has to make an asspull (Gemdeus Cronus) to have an equal fighting ground against Emu?

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>>15734334
The power struggle and escalation in Ex-Aid really is something else.

>Hahaha I'm a Level X immortal kami da zombie and cannot ever be defeated
>Fuck you Kuroto I have reprogramming powers and am taking your immortality away
>Fuck you Emu reprogramming doesn't work on me because I'm your bugster and can make your body my bitch on top of being a level 99 with power-up hax
>Fuck you Parad I've been reborn as a 99-lives bugster with special Level 0 anti-bugster powers
>Fuck all of you I can stop time and will now be hijacking control KR Chronicle
>Fuck you Masamune I'm unaffected by time stop by being fucking invincible
>Fuck you Emu if I can't beat you I'll just keep reseting time over and over again
>Fuck you Masamune we have save states now

>>15734357
>Fuck your save states I'm SUPER GOD

>>15734353
Not them but yes. However much as >>15734357
explains it, the way the Hyper Muteki completely changes the series is definitely a change.
Most KR series that I've seen haven't had the final form shape the conflict as much as this one.

>>15734353
Only with Cronus. We already know that beating Gemdeus is still supposed to be nearly impossible even if you have Cronus, so Hyper Muteki being stronger than Gemdeus just makes it a bit less impossible.

After this last episode, I personally can't interpret True Ending as anything but a branching timeline that would exist if RESET had never happened.

>>15734357
Holy shit, this really is Dragon Ball/Gurren Lagann/Demonbane levels of power struggle and escalation.

On another side of this discussion, I still find it both hilarious and pathethic that Pefect Knockout became a punching bag jobber after two episodes of it's debut.

>>15734388
>I still find it both hilarious and pathethic that Pefect Knockout became a punching bag jobber after two episodes of it's debut.
The only understandable outcome of a player cheating his game to get the highest-at-the-time level. He should have stayed at level 50.

>>15734388
>punching bag jobber
Stop using this word. Why doesn't /krg/ know what this means?

Perfect Knockout has only been beaten by shit of factually greater strength.

>>15733478
I wonder how much time they had to prepare for the slightly shorter season. Feels like Gaim where endgame could use a little more breathing room.

Reset works for what basically amount to game events- it reset the fight where Muteki was introduced, it would have reset the fight with Graphite. Loverica's gashat was given outside of a fight, and is therefore immune to the effects of Reset as it wasn't obtained through the gameplay of KRC.

>>15734135
Yeah. I like this change of character, but he never really seemed that way. For the most part, Graphite always came off as a mouthpiece for the virus. He was a virus first, a copy of a video game character second. So many of his proclamations for victory involve killing humans and spreading the virus. He never really talked about video games. Fuck, for a long time the audience had to assume themselves that he was from DKHZ because he never talks about it until KRC actually starts iirc. Alternatively, Parado was the one who fought because that was the point of the game.

However, it seemed like their characters switched when KAmen Rider Chronicle was officially launched. Parado became a serious killer of humans while Graphite turned into "muh video game rules" guy.

I wonder if Japan liked Graphite enough to the point where his character was tweaked.

>>15734406
Except for Legacy, which had only a level disparity of 1.

But then again, this is Kamen Rider, where fighting while thinking about your girlfriend is the greatest power up.

>>15733478
>The reset plot device feels like it could have been fleshed out but really it's just an excuse to get Muteki out of the plot for an episode. Then there is Graphite who does nothing for most of the show, but then they try to develop him at the last minute. At least his send-off was nice, the show needed him to do more so his declaration to Poppy and Parrad has more weight. That's a problem with the Bugster plot in general though.
Which is why I feel like True Ending is alternate, rather than a continuation. This episode very much feels like back-tracking for the sake of furthering the plot, and reset just seems like a device that only exists to keep things going like this. The show really didn't really have that much reason to keep Cronus at large after last week, and I think the movie is exploring that (more streamlined) route.

>>15734429
If we use the difference in level 2 to level 3 from the early episodes, Level 100 is not barely stronger than level 99, it's a real jump.

>>15734281
I was personally thinking Dan Jr. He is the prime example of taking a few of his characterizations to eleven. Like don't get me wrong loooove it, but he is literally a characterure of himself. and iono about you but like i wouldn't wanna live where anyone on a whim decides or out of spite or a lesson decides to delete my data ala saki or love robot. All of that which cheapens life.

>>15734445
>it's a real jump
You could say that it's a... mighty jump.

>>15734448
Dan was turning more into a meme even before he was dead

>>15734473
now that is all he is a living meme

>>15734484
A living meme who singlehandedly developed the tools needed to save the world.

>>15734485
yeah great wonderful godly living meme, just pointing out why being a bugster or at least-a-former-human-revived as a bugster makes u less than what your were. (i wonder how much data in that conversion you lose. wouldn't it be hilarious if Dan Sr. lied about saki and accidentally lost most her data and only could revive what we saw )

>>15734504
>or at least-a-former-human-revived as a bugster makes u less than what your were
Dan is literally canon crazy, bugster or not. Bike boy is normal

>>15734512
Is Dan the craziest/most insane character in the franchise and will anyone actually surpass that?

>>15734512
Crazy then lvled up to crazier amirite?

>>15734518
Ryoma literally took his brain out of his body and put it in a robot for one episode for the lulz.

>>15734512
iono he seems normalish somewhat subdued than he was before death that honeslty can be cause not much time left to spend on him now his chara arc is done and he don't need to lie (sans the switching sides-psych-gotcha deal and be shady anymore ) or be as cocky also since this a kid show i am sure they'll nevrr say but uh are they fully uh still eqipped as bugsters cause that is important to deciding if id rather be human.

I honestly enjoy that a toy show primarily aimed at children can make you think. How cheap is life? Dan Kuroto's life is more cheaper than any other character. Why? Because if you killed him your thought process isn't "OOOH God I killed a person." It is "Meh he has another 99 or 80 lives or 60 lives." Honestly I think watching this show you can't just veg out and check your thinking at the door. Rewatching for earlier plot points has been interesting too.

>>15733374
Wrong

>Most KR series that I've seen haven't had the final form shape the conflict as much as this one

How many have you seen, because most of them do?

>>15734778
Hyper Muteki is a direct answer to the not-final boss and how he changed the story by turning up. They wouldn't have been able to do anything about his Pause ability, since the only other trick they have Masamune knows already (throw a Bugster into his driver).
Didn't watch Ghost to Mugen so I can't say what happens there.
Tridoron only brings back Tomari from the dead, but doesn't change the plot in any way after that.
Kiwami has the power of the golden fruit and God, which mostly translated through everything that happened after it's debut, but everything could have been dealt with without it ultimately.
I don't remember anything about Infinity, so I can't say anything to that one either.
Cosmic is just another form change whose gimmick is forgotten until the end. And so on.

>>15734235
Sorry this is lengthy...
The mystery they are talking about isn't so much how, but why? What is the point in directly pointing out a difference in endings at all or any differences at ALL if it is irrelevant to the plot, right after a reset? [small point, I think you meant it is Kiriya in CR costume and Snipe name isn't on his hospital]

Is there something lost in translation? Japanese tweets and blogs mostly went on about episode 41 ここからTV本編と映画で”ルート分岐”か [is it from here on does the show and movie path diverge?] On some english sites the debate is still if like that isn't happening.

Now granted the movie can prove me wrong but the implications are they've been going with a game theme, [Saves, Continues, Resets, Game Overs etc.] and they do what they state, so why when they say True Ending would they suddenly stop going by a game's theme in which there might be multiple endings/paths/divergences?

Anyway again movie might prove us all wrong but I think that theory is a shorter leap to logic.

>>15734778
>>15734843
And most other villians dont have to base their plans around not dealing with the final form

>>15734898
>What is the point in directly pointing out a difference in endings at all or any differences at ALL if it is irrelevant to the plot
To sell tickets

>>15734901
Hahaha it's a summer kamen rider movie they don't need that to sell tickets. Just need explosions and the name kamen rider.

Now if you are saying that actually having it so the movie ties directly to the tv show and seeing how it is different or changes makes you spend money on the movies AND continue watching the series perhaps even investing in buying the last compilation to compare the movie to the tv show. And if you missed how they all connect/diverege the movie on dvd or bluray itself.

>>15734914
>Hahaha it's a summer kamen rider movie they don't need that to sell tickets
Why have trailers that showcase the story (along with every major moment in the movie) along with intrusive tie ins in the show then? Summer movies are possibly the most soulless piece of Rider shows, they arent designed to make adult fans so amazed at the quality they buy a BD

>makes you spend money on the movies AND continue watching the series
There'll be literally 2 or 3 episodes left when this comes out next week

>>15734426
Underrated post. The only explanation that makes sense.

>>15734942
Um, no where did I say it was supposed to make adults amazed at, in fact all I said it needed was explosions and the name...to make money.

Now toei is the one building hype by saying it'll change your view if you watch it prior to the end of the series, or after the end of the series or during the end of the series. That may just be hype and all.

On to your second point.
Look...are you being purposefully obtuse? I can understand if it's on purpose I guess. If you want to re watch the last four to five episodes, well legally, you'd have to buy the last dvd/bluray compilation which may include the last 7? episodes. As well as either see the movie again or buy it when it comes out.

>>15734942
trailers are so cause then u know theres a movie out and make u wanna see the movi e it is during kid show so they trun to mum and dad and go i wanna see that!

>>15734953
>in fact all I said it needed was explosions and the name...to make money.
Do you seriously think all Rider movies make the same amount of money? Kids dont just go see a movie because it has Rider in it

>Look...are you being purposefully obtuse?
>If you want to re watch the last four to five episodes

>makes you spend money on the movies AND continue watching the series
You didnt say rewatch, where was I obtuse?

>well legally, you'd have to buy the last dvd/bluray compilation which may include the last 7? episodes
4 actually, you should actually research the release information before acting like you know anything

>As well as either see the movie again
It isnt out til January/February, research more

>>15734981
Not reading any more of your garbage until you stop typing like a retard

Man I really liked this episode.

>>15735000
>Do you seriously think all Rider movies make the same amount of money?

No where did I state that. In fact I said they make money. Granted they make different amount depending if the series is popular or not... (looking at you den-o imagines) In fact the last Exaid movie Hesei Generations made about $6 mil which is a lot for a domestic japanese movie for children.

>Kids dont just go see a movie because it has Rider in it

Worse, they go to see a movie with a talking poop emotican 'cause it's funny. I think they would go just 'cause rider is in it and it has cool explosions and like the other poster said, it was advertised during the show and "Oh look mommy can we go see that?!"

>You didnt say rewatch, where was I obtuse?

Sorry I thought by saying 'perhaps even investing in buying the last compilation to compare the movie to the tv show. And if you missed how they all connect/diverege the movie on dvd or bluray itself.' it kinda covered that as an option, I see my mistake was I should've spelled out "compare by rewatching"

> actually, you should actually research the release information before acting like you know anything
>As well as either see the movie again It isnt out til January/February, research more

LOL aren't you just adorable, telling me to research more, the movie comes out in Aug of this year on the 5th.

And...I can see by your response to the other person you are being obtuse and not really wanting discussion so I'm gonna disengage, kay ^_^

>>15735016
I agree it was a funny and entertaining episode.

>>15734843
Kiwami is there to set Kouta on the path to becoming an overlord for the Golden Fruit and to basically mimic Kaito's own path down that road

Infinity was a counter to Fueki's plan because it was a power Haruto created on his own. He even tries to take it from him in the last part of the show.

I agree with Type Tridorron and Cosmic, but I think the Final Form being important happens more often than just Muteki. Because right Fourze there was OOO etc.

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Rewatching when CR got the case back verses when Dan Masamune got it back via reset. Anyone else think the at least two of the proto gashats missing might be Kiriya's and Graphite's and by extention Saki's?

Actually I do know Kiriya's got his before the whole Muteki bit, but whose is the other one?

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>>15735279
Eek here's after Dan got them back

>>15735279
>>15735286
It's Jet Combat and Shakariki because Kiriya has them.

>>15735292
Ohhhh thanks. Props to the prop or staging people for paying attention to that detail. And director I guess for making sure that detail is seen.

>>15733470
>bikeception

>>15735286
Wait a fucking second. If all the Gashats were reset back to before Kiriya stole the case, does that mean Saki's data was restored?

>>15734843
Mugen was the only thing that could permanently destroy the Ganmeisers... you know, until they backed themselves up through the Deep Eyecon anyway. But hey, they only did that it retaliation to Mugen, so I guess there's that.

>>15732874
The game's server got rolled back.

>>15734575
There's nothing wrong with being turned into a Half-Bugster

>>15735833
>half

>>15735480
Maybe, but Masamune could still have just deleted her between scenes.

>>15733463
>December Reunion
>so your character will stay ded while everyone else is having fun, see you in June

>>15735833
Here's the thing, the show might not have spelled it out directly, but they have shown us it isn't a great thing being a buster, half-bugster, revived human/bugster and using critical thinking skills you can figure that out on your own.

Kuroto: He has 99 lives, his life has less value. We are at the point that we laugh at his various deaths. Even if they are painful deaths, it's still funny 'cause well he'll pop up and do it again. The show has shown coming back and dying over and over isn't painless and it is draining.

With Poppy, she isn't fully in control of her own life. The show has shown it is easy to reset her data so she can betray her own friends or ideals or if needed eventually hack it back. Imagine that someone could change who you are just as easily.

With Kiriya he had to pretend to betray his colleagues just so he can get his data from a crazy megalomaniac and save everyone else who had died from that same fate.

For other Bugsters: Push of a button and you are gone, I don't like the way you sound or because you sat in my chair(Masamune), press Y and you are gone. But maybe you have 99 lives (Kuroto) and I'm a sadistic son of a gun(Masamune), I'll bring you back torture you a bit, kill you, rinse, repeat.

Saki, held hostage as a bargaining chip. Hopefully she was not conscious because it would suck if all she could do was repeat her last words while seeing her boyfriend break down in front of her. That's a special kind of hell.

But maybe having someone in control of your life, being able to easily change who you are as a person, and living under the threat of deletion at a push of a button is your kink.

In that case, yes, nothing wrong with being a bugster.