Adventure´s Agumon is going to appear in Appmon on august 12.

what the hell kind of mobile suit is an agumon? sounds like some zeek amphibious shit

>>15712031
>not a mono eye

get out

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We are gods now.

>>15712103
Those actually look rad.
Is Appmon good? I might get into it.

>>15712126
These last few episodes finally have the plot. But it's only okay not good.

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>>15712126
>Those actually look rad.
Not really
>Is Appmon good? I might get into it.
It's meh. Somewhere below Frontier and above Xros Wars.

>>15712133
Deusmon evo line would have some sense from cometmon´s evo line.

>>15712126
>>15712126
It's pretty meh, but with some funny moments. The serie in general is more childish than previous entries, and poor MC, which his motivation is to became a "protagonist", is probably the most bland character in digimon I ever seen.

The last three episodes are something like a shortned version of the original dark masters arc, in which two of the villains are defeated in only one episode, with only one hit each. Also, there is a human characters that aids the villains, and his motivation for hating the human race is because he invented a chat app when he was kid, and people used it to shitpost.

>>15712126
It's pretty bad.

>>15712126
First 25 episodes are great. As usual, if you know what franchise you're getting into.
Then there's a streak of around 10 shitty episodes(both standalone and plot based). Its starting to pick up a bit but mostly because its ending soon.

>>15711859
That's nice but i'm not seeing why this is here instead of /a/.
>>15712126
It's not as good as Xros and the protagonist redefines bland, but if you don't mind wasted potential it's a good toyetic romp.

>>15712126
If yer a Tamerbaby? Then no. Not enough edge.
Probably not enough nostalgia to cater to an Adventure fan, either.

Otherwise yer good. It's not horrible but more bland than anything.

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>>15712126
If you like the characters that aren't Rei
If you enjoy episodic stuff

Then you'll like most of it. Of it's now 42 episodes only about 10 have been super devoted to plot.

CG is surprisingly good for a show made by Toei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EAzyVB7Caw

>>15712126
It's mostly ok with a few pretty good moments. Nothing really bad comes to mind besides a few wasted oportunities.

>>15713064
Toei usually does an ok job with CGI, though other stuff I've seen from them with CGI don't use nowhere as much as Appmon. Don't know if they made any CGI heavy stuff before.

>>15712103
>>15712133
I can't get over how stupid Uranosmon looks. The fact it's the most detached from its line among the protagonists doesn't help.

>>15713064
>CG is surprisingly good for a show made by Toei
Thats because Toei actually heavily invested in their CGI department and more or less left the drawing part to rot, look at their cgi, its always top quality while we get shit like Sailor Moon Crystal and DB Super

>>15712133
>Somewhere below Frontier and above Xros Wars.
You put that backwards, friend

>>15713112
Is that Saint Seiya CG movie done by Toei? Because if nothing else, that shit is fucking gorgeous looking.

>>15713184
>Is that Saint Seiya CG movie done by Toei?
For what I remember, yes, they done it. They also made the equally visually beautiful Harlock CGI movie, but this one with the aid of studio Marza.

>>15712133

One on the bottom looks like it literally came from a furry porn manga.

>>15713144
Frontier > Xros Wars

>>15713543
I'm a huge fan of Frontier and I still don't think I'd say it's better than Xros Wars.

I'm going to watch GX Blurays for the first time, which release should I go with, RESubs or CTR?

>>15713567
Goddammit. Wrong fucking thread, please ignore this.

>>15713547
Honestly I can't tell which is better. Both have a similar dip in quality in their second halfs.

>>15713543
lmao

no

>>15713569
Xros is more consistent and they don't forget their "gimmicks"

>>15713569
Xros doesn't have a 10 episode arc where all they do is job to 2 Digimon over and over again.

Xros also might ditch Akari and Zenjirou, but at least Kiriha and Nene are still actively doing stuff to the end, even if they forget Nene's character, she's still heavily involved in their operations, unlike Frontier's "Everyone stands there except for Takuya and Koji".

I think Frontier has the better final boss though.

>>15714107
>Xros also might ditch Akari and Zenjirou
That was a good thing

>>15713543
The actual order is:
Frontier: Lucemon arc < Xros Wars < Frontier: Cherubimon arc

Holy shit, just realized I haven't watched appmon in a long time.
Since that appmon voiced by Nakamura entered the plot.

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Has it gotten good yet?

Last I heard, it's worse than Adventure-02

>>15722118
It was largely slice of life with plot in the background. Then the plot kicked into high gear and shit went down. All the digimon protagonists died. The digital world was subsequently hard reset to kill a virus that was rapidly spreading through it. This brought the digimon partners back to life, but as new versions and they had to learn to be friends again. Gennai appeared again, evil now, and he controls the resurrected Dark Masters. He had MetalSeadramon and Mugendramon/Machinedramon attack the humans, but they've been awakening the power to reach Ultimate/Mega throughout Tri, so all except Hikari and Meico evolve their digimon to their new max forms and kill the two Dark Masters. Gennai then strangles Meico, forcing her virus partner Meicoomon to evolve into the infectious Meicrackmon again. The poster for the next movie hints that Hikari and Meico will dark evolve their partners to reach their Ultimate/Mega forms.

>>15722118
>Has it gotten good yet?
The third movie seemed like it would improve but the fourth one was kinda meh.

>Last I heard, it's worse than Adventure-02
Depends on what you're looking for but yeah. Ironically, how the 02 cast is handled will be very important on how good Tri ends up being at its end.

>>15722118
>Last I heard, it's worse than Adventure-02
Anyone who says this is a blithering moron and I don't know what they want from Tri. Determination is the only bad movie/batch of episodes mainly because it's slow and too much real world slice of life. Reunion is perfectly fine, Confession was great, and Loss was good. Even Determination is leagues above 02 since its original character doesn't discredit the chosen children like 02 did.

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>Playing CS
>Shine Greymon BM's special attack is basically the Shinryu Hydro Blazer and it does the Sunrise sword pose as a victory animation
>mfw

Who else hyped for HM?

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>>15722269
>Confession was great, and Loss was good

>>15722269
>and I don't know what they want from Tri
Not a shitty drama oriented retread of Adventure 01 without shitty human designs.

But yeah, it has the digimon brand so its good.

>>15722118
First movie is eh, second one is fun but entirely SoL filler, third one was alright, fourth one I remember nothing except Gennai licking someone's face, and teacher lady flipping out

>>15723120
What's wrong with either of them?

>>15723182
When a sequel was announced what else was it gonna be about? The original Adventure was also about the kids personal drama incorporated into them exploring the digital world. I'm not saying its amazing but Tri is perfectly fine.

>>15718300
This

>>15723332
>When a sequel was announced what else was it gonna be about?
New and unrelated cast, same universe was what it should have been. Original kids don't even show up until the penultimate movie when the new kids can match them and the stakes require it.

>>15723086
I found out about HM just as I was about halfway through CS. I'm pretty hyped.

>>15723711
I just hope they fix the animations for the V-dramon line. Every single special attack in the line looked wrong except for the Ulforce saber

>>15723609
>New and unrelated cast, same universe was what it should have been. Original kids don't even show up until the penultimate movie when the new kids can match them and the stakes require it.
Yeah because the last Adventure sequel that focused on a new cast wasn't an disaster, oh wait

>>15724770
It was a disaster because the writing was shit and because the cast wasn't entirely new. I'd be somewhat less upset at 02 if the original Adventure kids weren't uselessly hanging around throughout the show, unable to do practically anything for most of it.

>>15713999
Xros is more consistently bad. The humans are all terrible and undeveloped. The Xros gimmick was poorly utilized and mostly came down to going into the highest form of Shoutmon.

>>15722118
It started off alright, but then descended into 02 levels of bad.

Frankly, I just ignore it exists.

>>15723609
The sequel was announced to be about Taichi in high school from the beginning. Anyone expecting something else wasn't paying attention. It was the anniversary series. They would be insane not to capitalize on nostalgia.

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>>15712133
What appmon has your favorite design. It's basically the only thing that kept me going so far before this last mini arc.

Sateramon is definitely mine. Globemon looks nice too.

>>15725109
>It started off alright, but then descended into 02 levels of bad.
That's a hefty claim, mind backing that up with some examples?

>>15725111
This. I legitimately have no understanding of what people wanted from this series when from the beginning they directly addressed what it would be and that it was in celebration of Adventures anniversary. It's as stupid as people complaining about Taichi hesitating when literally that's been his personal character trait of being scared to act since the original show and it's why he has the crest of courage.

>>15725132
I don't understand why people can't wait for a 6 movie series to develop it's plots. Tri isn't the best thing ever but it's far from bad. I'd say the second movie was the only one I didn't enjoy.

>>15725106
>The humans are all terrible and undeveloped
Who cares? The show isn't about them outside of a few focus episodes for Kiriha and Yuu

>The Xros gimmick was poorly utilized
What did you even want out of it? There was no shortage of creative Xros forms. Only things I was disappointed by was Decker Greymon only being used like once and the gimmick as a whole being hard to translate into other media to the point where Xros Wars Digimon will probably never show up again (much like X-evolution and Frontier Digimon)

>>15725144
It's literally just a show being released in 4-5 episode batches, so people getting mad that the first 4 episodes don't start and resolve the entire plot was absolutely retarded. As you said Determination is kinda bad but the Jou storyline and the last 10-20 minutes of it were great. Since then it's been on the uptrend so I think it overall is going to end up good, not great, and probably surpass Xros.

>>15725111
Of course we knew they were going to, but it was a bad idea from the start. The kids had already resolved all their character conflicts in the original show, for one, and for the other, the original show wasn't about their character conflicts to begin with. It was inevitably going to be bad given that it, much like 02, missed the point of the original

>>15725148
>Who cares? The show isn't about them outside of a few focus episodes for Kiriha and Yuu
Considering they take up most of the screen time a whole lot of people care. They're bland and boring. They drive the plot. The villains aren't gushing over Shoutmon, Greymon and Sparrowmon. They're gushing over Kudo Taiki, Kiriha and using Nene and Yuu for their goals.

>What did you even want out of it? There was no shortage of creative Xros forms. Only things I was disappointed by was Decker Greymon only being used like once and the gimmick as a whole being hard to translate into other media to the point where Xros Wars Digimon will probably never show up again (much like X-evolution and Frontier Digimon)

Taiki to xros Digiomn outside of Shoutmon. He has a whole Digivice full of Digimon and barely uses them. Most of his combinations are made from Shoumon and one of his main members or one of Shoutmon's main forms getting a letter added to it like X5S or X5B.

>>15725155
It wasn't a bad idea from the start. The gap between 02 and the epilogue was extremely long. A whole lot of things happened during that time skip that could easily be explored and other media tried to explore it like drama CD. Resolving character conflicts for 10 year olds doesn't mean that more things can't come up when they're 17. Tri's problem is that it goes for flash over substance and leaves things unexplained. The problem isn't the idea but the execution.

>>15725155
>the original show wasn't about their character conflicts to begin with.
>It was inevitably going to be bad given that it, much like 02, missed the point of the original
I think you're the one who missed the point of the show if you think Adventure wasn't about the kids and their character conflicts.

Also the reason 02 is bad is because of its writing, characters (Daisuke was ordered to not develop), and how it horribly discredits the original cast and diminishes their accomplishments.

>>15725156
>Considering they take up most of the screen time a whole lot of people care
Most of the screen time is Shoutmon and Taiki, don't exaggerate.

>Taiki to xros Digiomn outside of Shoutmon
He did that a lot, like a hell of a lot. Just without Shoutmon at the core leading them it usually isn't as strong. They had a whole mini arc about how it requires a strong presence/leader to pilot the body and make a Xros truly powerful.

>>15725163
>Most of the screen time is Shoutmon and Taiki, don't exaggerate.
Taiki is a human last I checked and the most bland Digimon protagonist.

>He did that a lot, like a hell of a lot. Just without Shoutmon at the core leading them it usually isn't as strong. They had a whole mini arc about how it requires a strong presence/leader to pilot the body and make a Xros truly powerful.

He didn't do it a lot. Them having a story arc about it doesn't make it better. The story arc is just them cementing the fact that they'd never fully utilize Digi Xros. Yuu was using it far better than Taiki in the final episodes of the second arc.

>>15725163
>I think you're the one who missed the point of the show if you think Adventure wasn't about the kids and their character conflicts.
I don't think you remember the show very well if you think it was. The vast majority of the episodes were focused on the isekai aspect of it. Adventure's charm came from it being about a bunch of kids exploring a strange and unknown world with a bunch of quirky characters. There was character conflict stuff there, yes, but it was merely there to liven things up. That's part of why Frontier is not remembered fondly even though it tried to replicate the Adventure formula. Despite their being fewer main cast members, they somehow manage to be even more bland since they get less focus on their characters, so we end up with a bunch of completely uninteresting cardboard cutouts getting into conflicts we don't care about. The show also lacks the touching moments of the kids bonding with their Digimon, which didn't help. But nonetheless, Frontier is closer to what Adventure was like more than any other Digimon show, I'd say.

>>15725176
What in the fuck are you talking about? The dynamic of the group and the kids interactions bundled with their own insecurities/neurosis is integral to the show just as much as the digital world aspect. Things like Matt's desperation to not be left alone or hurt leading to pushing people away, Jou doubting his lacking abilities, Koushiro putting more emphasis on knowledge than human interaction because he's afraid of things he doesn't understand, all these things are driving forces behind the show and if you are insinuating that the character's personalities didn't matter or weren't apart of the show you're either delusional or didn't watch the show. Hell the majority of every arc is dominated by these issues, especially once the crests show up since the whole point of the crests were the kids' personalities and emotional baggage.

And the reason why Frontier is not as well received if many fold due to its sloppy execution. Not everyone likes a sentai gimmick in a show that was about monster raising/partners, and then there's the issue that the pacing was atrocious for most of the series.

>>15725156
>They drive the plot
No they don't. The plot is about them collecting the code crowns and beating the generals or whatever. It's incredibly simplistic shit because the crux of the show is focused around the battles these characters get into. Of course the villains spend more time thinking about the human characters because the humans are smart enough to lead an army of Digimon and have DigiXros capabilities. It doesn't go beyond that into who these kids actually are.

>He has a whole Digivice full of Digimon and barely uses them
The entire point of those end of episode sequences were to show the dumb fusions he'd come up with if he tried to use the Digimon that he doesn't regularly use for combat.

>>15725188
I did not say that these things weren't part of the show, I said that they took a back seat to the other aspects. What you're bringing up did matter for certain specific episodes, but was largely irrelevant to the show as a whole. It wasn't as if the show was regularly challenging these kids with obstacles they had to overcome with character development. Most of their challenges came from battling evil or out of control Digimon. And this is not to mention how Takeru and Hikari barely had any character unto themselves at all, mostly just existing for Yamato and Taichi to project their protective instincts onto

>>15723332
>When a sequel was announced what else was it gonna be about?
A sequel to their previous adventures.

> The original Adventure was also about the kids personal drama incorporated into them exploring the digital world
And the "them exploring the digital world" only came on the third movie and so far its about them "meeting" their digimon and fighting the Dark Masters again.

>>15725190
>No they don't. The plot is about them collecting the code crowns and beating the generals or whatever.
Which is led by the humans. Without the humans arriving, DIgimon like Shoutmon would have never done shit.

>The entire point of those end of episode sequences were to show the dumb fusions he'd come up with if he tried to use the Digimon that he doesn't regularly use for combat.
Then make them not dumb. You don't have to go one route with the Xros. Just like Jogress doesn't have to go one way. The same two Digimon can make different combinations.

>>15725200
Fighting Digimon was always tied to character drama. Each and every episode. Agumon's first evolution was tied to Taichi's selfishness and bullheadedness.
Gabumon's first evolution was tied to Yamato and Taichi fighting and Yamato trying to be a big brother to Takeru and not knowing how because they don't live together.
Piyomon's first evolution was tied to Sora being annoyed by Piyomon and Piyomon's devotion to her.
Gomamon's first evolution was tied to another Taichi and Yamato fight that led Jou to try and come up with a solution to the problem on his own after they berated him.

Fighting Digimon always tied to character interaction and development.

>>15725233
You already said what I was going to bring up. They only have the character moments when a new evolution needs to be unlocked. Outside of that, there's not much apart from Taichi and Yamato's bickering. Adventure isn't Tamers. It has appeal beyond constant character drama because it's still a kid's show at heart. It's okay to like kid's shows, anon. You're on /m/, in case you've forgotten.

>>15725252
Strange I don't remember Taichi fleeing from the Mugendramon bombings resulting in any evolution and yet it lasted around 2-3 episodes and revolved around Taichi's sense of duty to his sister because he almost got her killed over before through being selfish. In fact, Taichi's relationship with his sister and his own personal drama took MORE precedence than fighting one of the Dark Masters. Let's also not forget Taichi's episode in the real world, Jou and Mimi rallying an army together, Koushiro's struggle with knowing he's adopted, strange how all of these and more don't fit the criteria that you yourself just listed.

>>15713272
It really does. I think it's the hair.

I think Appmon is decent. Revivemon has a cool design. I don't understand what the point of Tri is though. Just feels 'extra' and unnecessary.

>>15725222
>Which is led by the humans.
Yes, but it isn't actually about the humans, which is what I've been getting at.

>Then make them not dumb.
I don't know how you expect to get a badass, battle-ready Digimon out of shit like Wisemon, the Monitamons, Bastemon, Cutemon or Jijimon. Especially one on a comparable power level to the sword-wielding giant robot main Digimon.

Savers was boring. Why did you guys hype it up so much? Probably the shittiest depiction of Yggdrasil too.

>>15725233
>Piyomon's first evolution was tied to Sora being annoyed by Piyomon and Piyomon's devotion to her.
I didn't even realize that the fourth movie was a reverse of this. That's really great.

>>15725261
>revolved around
This is what I'm disputing, not that there were character moments. A good deal of the runtime of those episodes had stuff like Mugendramon sitting in a dark room issuing orders, Hikari and Taichi wandering around underground, War Greymon battling with something, Hikari randomly making friends with I think it was some Numemon, shit like that. Again, this isn't like Tamers where they even convey character through fight scenes.

>Let's also not forget Taichi's episode in the real world
This actually was tied to the first Metal Greymon evolution, technically speaking

>Jou and Mimi rallying an army together
Are you talking about the shit with the Gekomon here? If so, I'll give you that since the actual episode was just about getting Mimi to stop being a bitch

>Koushiro's struggle with knowing he's adopted
What struggle? He accepted it more or less immediately. His only problem was trying to figure out how he should act now that he knew about it.

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On one hand, it annoys me Yamato is so popular, being the emo traitorous shithole he is

On the other hand, wow, the 02 kids have no love, especially Miyako.

>>15725311
>Iori even getting votes
At least Miyako had a personality at all

>>15725311
Wait, are the main 3 Tamer kids not popular at all or does Ryo count as an Adventure/02 character because of the games?

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>>15725318
Yeah, an annoying inconsistent one.

>>15725311
>Sora is the least popular original child

This makes me laugh.

>>15725311
Holy shit, even Wallace and Ryo got more votes. The extracontinuity characters got more votes than a girl.

>>15725321
It was exclusively Adventure, Ryo is from the Adventure timeline with a cameo in 02 and I think in OWG.

>>15725329
Nobody likes Miyako as anything other than dyke fuel for Mimi.

>>15725329
Maybe this poll was in a girl's magazine
That's the only explanation I can think of for both Yamato and Takeru being so high

The only time I remember Takeru doing something cool was when he punched Ken in the face. Best part of 02 desu

>>15712133

The Champions look like Rookies and the Ultimates look like Champions. Whoever thought giving the appmon superdeformed proportions was a good idea should have his head used as a stop for slamming car doors.

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>>15725345
It was part of the advertising campaign leading up to the first Tri movie.

Japan loves dark emo chaacters, that's why Yamato and Ken rank so high. Takeru leeches off Yamato's success since he's his brother and yaoibait, despite having no character or personality in 02.

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>>15725345

>>15725321
Ryo counts as an adventure kid.

I really would have expected at least Daisuke to do as well as Ken.

>>15725311
Poor Yolei.

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>>15725358
Why? He's objectively the worst gogglehead

>>15725354
Well Ken does have more character than practically the entire rest of the cast of the show he's in. He's basically the only reason to watch 02.

>>15725363
He sure as hell isn't worse than Tagiru

>>15725363
Just for the simple fact that he is a goggleboy with a very popular partner. You would think he could at least beat out some of the lesser Adventure kids. It's kind of sad.

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>>15725368
Only up until he realizes he's not playing a video game.

Would 02 have been more acceptable if it only went as long as the emperor arc? Kinda feels that way

>>15725373
02 would have been more popular if the creative team weren't fighting behind the scenes. It offers a lot of great ideas that never get traction because the creative team was too busying arguing with one another.

>>15725373
I still thought 02 was pretty boring even through that arc. The Digital World in 02 was almost as barren and lifeless as the Tamers one, and none of the protagonists had enough personality or character to carry the show. If anything, the show became a bit more entertaining to watch in the latter half just because of how pants on head retarded it got

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>>15725384
>great ideas

Like what? Past Ken and armor digivolving, I can't figure any

>>15725394
Who is that on the left supposed to be?

>>15725394
They could have at least done something with Daemon, but he somehow was never considered as a substantial arc villain for 02.

>>15725394
The Dagomon thing had potential

>>15725407
I get the feeling that has something to do with V-Tamer. Either they were setting up a crossover that got denied by the publisher or they simply decided that they shouldn't use the same villain across multiple works

>>15725405
Looks like Korra.

>>15725413
That would make sense

>>15725394
>Takeru and Daisuke clashing
>Dark Ocean
>Traveling the world and exploring other nations and meeting other kids with digimon partners
>Jogress
>Iori's family drama and general character
>A human equivalent to black gears
>Daemon Corps
>BlackWarGreymon

In theory all this shit has potential to be great, but none of it is pulled off well due to internal fighting behind the scenes and constant shift in direction.

>>15725427
>>Traveling the world and exploring other nations and meeting other kids with digimon partners

Have to stop you there, the "international children" deal is an awful idea that further diminishes the accomlishments of the kids in the first series.

>>15725436
The International Children only exist due to those accomplishments though so they diminish jackshit.

>>15725279
>Yes, but it isn't actually about the humans, which is what I've been getting at.
Without the humans the plot went nowhere.
>I don't know how you expect to get a badass, battle-ready Digimon out of shit like Wisemon, the Monitamons, Bastemon, Cutemon or Jijimon. Especially one on a comparable power level to the sword-wielding giant robot main Digimon
The same way they completely changed up Shoutmon's shape to get X3 and above. You improvise.

>>15725461
>Without the humans the plot went nowhere.
Irrelevant

>The same way they completely changed up Shoutmon's shape to get X3 and above
They didn't even use Shoutmon's shape for any of the X forms. Ballistamon formed the upper body and Dorulumon formed the lower body, except for X2, where it was literally just Ballistamon with a new head. All of these forms were based on parts that were on these Digimon's bodies. There wasn't much to Shoutmon's body, so he just formed the chestplate of all the X forms.

And that's why all the prior Digimon I mentioned wouldn't work too well. They had not been designed with Digixros in mind. Hence why even returning Digimon that did Digixros (Beelzebumon, Greymon) were redesigned so that they would have parts that would make more sense for them to donate to a Digixros form

>>15725479
>Irrelevant
No it's not irrelevant. The show follows Taiki and his Digimon Shoutmon. DarkKnightmon isn't interested in Shoutmon or any other Digimon. He's interested in Kiriha and Nene. Many Digimon join Xros Heart due to Taiki's influence. Some are influenced by Shoutmon too. Nene joined Xros Heart due to Taiki. Sparrowmon was moved due to Taiki's dedication. Dracomon joins Blue Flare due to Kiriha. Mervamon joins Xros Heart due to Nene. The show is driven by the humans.

>They didn't even use Shoutmon's shape for any of the X forms.
Which is why any Digimon could work in that position.

>>15725490
>No it's not irrelevant.
It absolutely is. If the show is not about the humans as characters, then it has no responsibility to develop them as characters or give them personality so long as it is entertaining in any other regard. For example, you may notice that many here on /m/ like a show called "Dougram". It is 70 episodes long and features some of the flattest, most bland characters in all of mecha. But it works because of a strong plot and good world building. Xros Wars is the same way, it has good world building and action.


>Which is why any Digimon could work in that position.
Yes and no. Yes in that the resulting form would be mostly the same, no in that it would have worked. The thing about the Shoutmon forms is that most of the attacks they do are based on Shoutmon and his moves or the few parts that he does form, such as the chestplate. This is particularly the case for forms that are not equipped with weapons.

>>15725516
>It absolutely is. If the show is not about the humans as characters,
Yes it is. The show poorly tries to develop the humans. You trying to excuse the poor writing of the show isn't helping you.

>Yes and no. Yes in that the resulting form would be mostly the same, no in that it would have worked. The thing about the Shoutmon forms is that most of the attacks they do are based on Shoutmon and his moves or the few parts that he does form, such as the chestplate. This is particularly the case for forms that are not equipped with weapons.
Yes it would have worked. All it takes is using your imagination. You're basing your reasoning off how the show does things. I'm basing my reasoning off of what could possibly be done. The only thing limiting Digi Xros was the imagination of the writers. If they wanted to do a serious Digi Xros staring Bastemon they could. If they wanted to use Knightmon as a base for a serious Digi Xros they could. They didn't because it wasn't what they were going for. That doesn't excuse them for not using the method to its fullest potential.

>>15725549
>Yes it is. The show poorly tries to develop the humans
How is the main conflict of the show in any way related to who Taiki is? How is it related to who anyone else is? What does the war between Xros Heart and the Bagura army have to do with Taiki and his ability to play basketball or whatever it is that he does? At most, Dark Knightmon manipulates Kiriha's loneliness issues and Yuu's childishness in order to use them to attack Xros Heart, but they aren't the protagonists and the show gives those things exactly as much time as they deserve, which is next to none since those elements aren't even close to being the focus.

>The only thing limiting Digi Xros was the imagination of the writers.
No, it isn't. They needed to actually differentiate it from Jogress, so instead of having any fusion result in whatever the fuck, they thought of how Digimon could logically donate parts of themselves to a greater form

>>15725579
>How is the main conflict of the show in any way related to who Taiki is?
The central conflict needed human generals to lead the armies. Taiki is seen as this one of a kind super awesome general.

>No, it isn't. They needed to actually differentiate it from Jogress, so instead of having any fusion result in whatever the fuck, they thought of how Digimon could logically donate parts of themselves to a greater form.

It's still Jogress with a different name. Just far more poorly done.

>>15725586
> Taiki is seen as this one of a kind super awesome general.
Doesn't mean the show is about him, that just means he has the capability to resolve the conflict. This isn't some fucking Evangelion existential journey, it's Digimon Xros Wars. You're reminding me a lot of that moron that thinks that every Cutey Honey work must explore her nature as an android

>It's still Jogress with a different name.
It's Jogress with actual rules and limitations, which makes it far more clever. Why can I jogress Angemon and Piyomon to get Gorimon? Why can I jogress Meramon and Hanumon to get Were Garurumon? These are just retarded. By contrast, pretty much every Digixros makes perfect sense even if the result is sometimes a visual clusterfuck like Shoutmon X7

>>15725612
>Doesn't mean the show is about him, that just means he has the capability to resolve the conflict.
The show is about Taiki. Everything revolves around him. He's the central character. The show follows his story. His interactions with his friends and all the Digimon.

>It's Jogress with actual rules and limitations,
The rules and limitations are only in your head. Xros doesn't make sense. Why can I Xros Shoutmon and Dorulumon and only get Shoutmon using a gun but Xros Shoutmon and Balistamon and get X2? Why does X3 grow so big and stand so tall

How is Tri? How is the SF release? Thinking of getting it.

>>15725644
Tri is alright. It's not amazing but it's nothing bad.

I haven't watched SF's release but I think it's just Toei's official subs+a nostalgic-esque "uncut" dub. Uses dub names like Izzy and Tai, but mixes it with a faithful script.

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>>15725637
>The show is about Taiki.
The show is about the situations Taiki gets into, not him as a person. I bet you think Moby Dick is about Ishmael too.

>Why can I Xros Shoutmon and Dorulumon and only get Shoutmon using a gun
Because Shoutmon isn't compatible with fusing with Dorulumon's body. You'll notice that the guns that Dorulumon forms are made out of the exact same legs that appear on X3, because that's the configuration Dorulumon always takes in a Digixros form. Look, even when they do it with Ballistamon, you still get the same thing. It's very consistent.

>>15725651
>The show is about the situations Taiki gets into, not him as a person. I bet you think Moby Dick is about Ishmael too.
No it's about him as a person. His conflicts and adventures. His interactions.

>Because Shoutmon isn't compatible with fusing with Dorulumon's body.
That's made up BS. They don't have to do that. You also didn't explain why X3 grew so much. If Dorulumon, Shoutmon and Balistamon can grow and change so much then anyone can.

>>15725665
>His conflicts and adventures
His conflicts and adventures are not about him. They are about battling the Bagura army. The episodes do not focus on Taiki's internal conflicts. They focus on where he goes and the Digimon he has to fight. How are you failing to grasp this?

>That's made up BS.
Since Dorulumon always takes the form of those legs, I don't see why anything would be capable of merging with it. Shoutmon X2 doesn't even merge with it, it's placed on top of those legs, hence why X3 is so tall. This is all visually obvious shit.

If you lack basic inference skills this much, I don't see a point of continuing this discussion further since you're just going to repeat the same shit ad nauseum

>>15725681
>His conflicts and adventures are not about him. They are about battling the Bagura army. The episodes do not focus on Taiki's internal conflicts. They focus on where he goes and the Digimon he has to fight. How are you failing to grasp this?

How are you failing to grasp that it's his story?

>Since Dorulumon always takes the form of those legs, I don't see why anything would be capable of merging with it. Shoutmon X2 doesn't even merge with it, it's placed on top of those legs, hence why X3 is so tall. This is all visually obvious shit.

Those legs grow extremely huge for X3.

>If you lack basic inference skills this much, I don't see a point of continuing this discussion further since you're just going to repeat the same shit ad nauseum

You've been making shit up the whole time. You can't even grasp that the show is about Taiki.

>>15711859

Where can I download the episodes?

>>15725175

>taiki is a human

Taiki isn't the focus - he's just our lens, the main story of Xros Wars is Shoutmon

>didn't xros

what

he did them a lot, they're just not combat oriented

you're in /m/ right? surely you know the concept of the Getter trio right? Without any of the three holding the xros, it wouldn't be solid

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>>15725106
nigga Nene and Kiriha developed fine, and even Taiki got through his shit

the concept of a smart protagonist is sadly missed on the show and alienates people because they assume a retard will have character development

and ironic you mention development, since the only show that shared development beyond the hero and rival is Tamers, and only just, because even then Rika's development is fleeting and no one talks about that guy who owns the rabbit Digimon

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A mythical, Galaxy Digimon said to be born from the fusion of Apollomon and Dianamon, members of the Olympos XII, when an unprecedented danger loomed over the Digital World: Iliad in the past. By colliding the opposing energies of the sun and the moon together, it formed energy equivalent to that of a Big Bang within its body. Because of that, it has been predicted that Grace Novamon itself has become a standalone galaxy, and it is said that it is impossible to measure its total data size accurately. Its Special Moves are focusing the amplified energy within its body into its fist and melting the enemy simply by touching them (Eclipse Finger), and firing the 8 blades (Meleagros) mounted on its back, which will not stop tailing the enemy until the enemy is destroyed (Calydon Arcs).

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Digimon Universe Appli Monster: Chara Song Album & OST

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>>15727406
Ruki is the rival character in Tamers, of course she is developed

Jian is ridiculously underrated; I honestly think he's the best character in all the anime series and arguably the best in the entire franchise. Though maybe that's just because I'm a fanboy of Jou from the first Adventure and Jian is him as a main character instead of comic relief with a few cool moments