They're the same

>>15709144
How dare you say that? Ruki is a far better character than Asuka.

>>15709144
How dare you say that? Asuka is a far better character than Ruki.

>>15709144
How dare you say that? IBO is far better than Zeta

>>15709144
A bad copy never is the same as the original.

>>15709144
They make good fap material, I guess?

>>15709502
But a good copy can be even better

>>15709504
this

>>15709144
That's not true at all.

Ruki is happy at the end of her show.

>>15709755
>Ruki is happy at the end of her show.
No she's not, she's the most miserable out of all the Tamers

>>15709144
Dear god, what was seen cannot be unseen - Asuka, when her mother was still alive (however old she was then)

>>15709849
She's bummed about Renamon being gone, but she's made peace with her mom and she has friends now

Ruki was a more enjoyable character, more attractive, and had a more emotional ending than red slut.

>>15709144
How so? Is this just part of the Tamers is Eva meme?

>>15709892
It's not like Renamon's even gone for very long, because the last shot of the show is Takato finding another portal.

>>15709987
>He doesnt know
Execs made the head writer add that. The only time he returned to the series after (the locomon movie is non canon and he wasnt involved) was for an audio drama where it turns out the portal has to be closed and they couldn't see each other again

>>15709144

Yeah, both are shitty tsunderes. At least the one on the right serves to fap, the other is just plain shit

>>15709998
That's 08th MS Team novel levels of retarded.

>>15710006
Why? An easy portal negates the whole point of the ending

>>15709998
Why does Chiaki Konaka love to write about children suffering so much?

>>15710011
Because once you've established something you should roll with it even if it wasn't your original vision, not fight back-and-forth over it.

>>15710006
You mean suiciding by biting your tongue off during a Feddie rape sesh levels of retarded?

>>15709892
>>15709987
Ruki in the audio drama, the true epilogue of the show, is still torn up that they will likely never see the Digimon again. Renamon became a part of her family and was her sister, she took it the hardest when the reality set in that they will likely never see their friends again and was the quickest to cry.

Jian may have been worse off because he was pretty much in denial, insisting that be will find a way to get back to them even if he had to devote the rest of his life to figuring it out.

Takato has faith, he thinks someday he will find them again. Tamaki had to build a concrete barrier around Guilmon house to make sure Takato couldn't get near it because Takato is so in sync with his wild emotions and the strongest willed of the children that he was forcing the portal open wider which is dangerous because it was an unstable rift between two dimensions that cannot exist in the same space.

Either way they said it before, the odds the Digimon are dead is kinda high because time moves different between the two worlds so it's been decades if not more in the digital world after so long has passed in the real world.

>>15710506
>the true epilogue of the show
You keep telling yourself that.

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>>15709144
NO THEY ARE NOT! You probably jumped the gun an read they are both Tsundere an assumed as much Rikka character Catchy shows growth an warms up to those around her completing the character archetype unlike Asuka who'd prefer man like Kaji in her life over shinji
>IT ALL COMES
>TUMBLING DOWN
>TUMBLING DOWN
[Hot flashes of Human instrumentality intensifies]
>TUMBLING DOWN

>>15709502
You're referring to Asuka right?

Does any body remember that time Rikka picked up a stick an jumped into battle an shanked a Digimon to save her partner?

>>15710506
The anime is the source material for Digimon. The audio drama isn't canon and they never really get referenced in the shows. Even if it was, they all have their partners back by Hunters.

>>15711546
>Even if it was, they all have their partners back by Hunters.
Hunters could take place before the finale of Tamers though, just look at Adventure 01 Taichi there.

>>15711556
Except Takato knows Grani and says he knew he'd see it again.

>>15711546
>The anime is the source material for Digimon. The audio drama isn't canon

Don't audio dramas uselessly come out after/before a show is either aired or finished?
your ruining the integrity here

>>15712300
I guess Hunters did something useful after all. By making a mistake, the only way it could have done so.

>>15709998
He also did that prequel short story about the Digimons' creation.

I fucking hate tsundere but didn't mind Ruki. She did make me want to commit a different type of crime, however.

>>15709144
Except one's not mentally ill and their mother still loves them.

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>>15713285
It's less of a crime if you make your headcanon that she grows up into Yuzu.

>>15713961
Welp, looks might it be time to try this spin-off series out. Is Overclocked worth the money?

>>15713961
And they're actually called "Demon Tamers". Yuzu is way too much of a "I want a normal life!" type to stand-in for Ruki though, in spite of being rather assertive otherwise.

>>15714842
Overclocked and Record Breaker are both good buys, especially if you can get Overclocked discounted. Record Breaker has more new content than Overclocked, since it has an entire sequel to the original DS2 packed into it, but Overclocked's 8th Days are nice extensions of three otherwise weak endings into something more enjoyable. I actually kind of like Amane's route the best with the 8th Day extension, whereas the original Devil Survivor pretty clearly favored Gin's route as the best ending.

>>15711546
Except the audio drama for once was actually made by the creator of the show.

>>15717003
It was made by the main writer, but it's not like he owns the series. In this case you've got the audio drama clashing with a standalone movie and a later crossover.

>>15717039
>In this case you've got the audio drama clashing with a standalone movie and a later crossover.
The standalone movie Runaway Locomon is blatantly stated to be not canon, in fact every movie starting with Hurricane Touchdown onwards is not stated to be canon. As for the crossover episode it doesn't even make sense in its own context let alone the context of any of the other shows so you really shouldn't base anything off of that especially since YH is a time slot filler that overall makes little sense.

If liking Asuka makes you a ephebophile then does liking Ruki make a straight up hebephile?

>>15717003
He doesn't own Digimon. It's not his choice. Just like Tomino's opinion on Amuro and Char doesn't matter.

>>15717045
Who said it wasn't canon? Young Hunters is canon. It doesn't matter that it was made as a way to fill time. It's canon because the Digimon anime is canon and no one has said it wasn't.

>>15717369
>>15717369
but I don't like jews

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>>15717374
>Who said it wasn't canon? Young Hunters is canon. It doesn't matter that it was made as a way to fill time. It's canon because the Digimon anime is canon and no one has said it wasn't.
The guy who made Young Hunters doesn't own Digimon. It's not his choice.

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>>15717483
What does Jews have to do with this?

>>15714851
In fairness, after going through the shit in Tamers you'd probably want a normal life too.

>>15717563
It's Bandai and Toei's choice, they're the ones who run the show. Having the Tamers kids with their partners is much more marketable and easier to work with in future material than just the kids on their own, so in all future animated and game materials they have their partners.

>>15717592
>hebephile

>>15717610
What does hebe have to do with Jews?

>>15717721
maybe jews are the only ones with enough money for a fancy thesaurus for all those variants on pedo?

>>15717732
That's going way too far for a joke. He had to have meant something else.

>>15717609
Yeah totally Bandai and Toei planned out and consider what happened in Young Hunters notable, that's why games and anime constantly refer to Young Hunters and they still make tons of merch for it. Oh wait that's not what happened at all and they have actively been ignoring YH since it happened.

You say all this like Chiaki Konaka made everything in a basement against the will of Toei and Bandai holding a gun up to the Digimon franchise demanding to make the audio drama. Why do you get to pick and choose what should be acknowledged and what shouldn't but the literal director and head writer of Tamers can't decide what happened with the show?

>>15710001
please define tsundere

because according to my definition riku doesn´t qualify as being tsundere at all

>>15710001
>the one on the right serves to fap
Only if you're attracted to trannies

>>15717790
No one is picking and choosing but you. The anime is what's canon. Audio dramas are never referenced in the anime. Even if the audio drama was canon Hunters comes after it. Just like Tri ignoring 02 audio dramas and all the changes it has made. Or is Tri not canon because of audio dramas? Only Tamersfags give a shit about audio dramas because they want their shitty bittersweet ending.

Takato was a fag.

>>15715218
I hate the tacked on 8th day in Overclocked, it completely fucks over Amane character and LAW in general. DeSu was one of the only SMT games that had all three alignments as decent choices but with Overclocked, Amane being the LAW character is fucked over when she doesn't give a fuck about LAW and will join fucking Lucifer on the basis of him not killing any humans, fuck that shit.

>>15719240
Naoya 8th Day No Killing Humans is kind of a wankfest, yeah, but I really like Amane 8th Day for bringing some positive resolution to Naoya's character, and for being one of the only SMT endings where Law is a legitimate viewpoint and not the obviously evil choice. Even DeSu2 ends up making the Law route into Team Evil, they just have more of a point than usual. In Overclocked I wound up ultimately siding with Law as my favorite ending, which is basically impossible anywhere else.

Yuzu 8th is just a decent extension, though one that punts Atsuro's route into being the worst one.

>>15719290
Amane and LAW there my favorites in DeSu, Overclocked shat on all of that when it made Amane just care about humans so there is no LAW character in DeSu, everyone is just a shade of Chaos or Neutral now. On Yuzu, she doesn't deserve an 8th day because she is a massive cunt and whiny bitch and now she gets rewarded for all the most negative traits in the world while Honda is still screwed if you decided with him. It is fucking retarded.

>>15718642
Takato was a kid who did his best to keep his pet from being horrifically murdered by monsters, while trying to keep him from becoming a monster himself.

Then he grew into becoming a goddamn royal knight.

>>15720361
Takato is more than that, he gained an interesting dynamic in that Guilmon that was unlike a brother, sister, friend, or pet. Guilmon was his son.

>>15719298
Amane's 8th day makes Kaido and even freaking Naoya help too, even if they don't become playable. It's not like they were favoring Chaos. Also makes the law world sound much more positive than in the original epilogue, where you got a narration talking about men living in fear of god with foreboding music playing.

Amane joining up in the Naoya/Kaido 8th day's good path also isn't that odd, since they basically retcon away all chaos elements. They just gather a demon army and then leave the world as it was before. There's no actual "chaos" there aside from facing the law faction which by that point was about to go ahead with purging humanity.

>>15709998
>Tamers fans hate the Locomon movie
why do they hate fun

>>15720843
No one hates it, it's just explicitly stated to not be canon