Muv-luv

>wake up
>still no news from kikestarter

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>>15705756
but there is this https://pastebin.com/VUH6QN2J

Ive been out of the loop a while. We Klendathu now?

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>>15705756
>5 weeks later
>going to sleep
>still no kimimuv finale

>>15705796
No, we UNDERSTANDING now.

>>15705761
I have to ask, was there any reason given for Kasumi's apparently agelessness? Like, do espers have longer lifespans than humans or anything like that? I don't recall if it was ever mentioned anywhere.

>>15705761
>HAHA
>Let's agitate the aliens who will absolutely pelt out only surviving colony with relativistic kill vehicles! AND WHO HAVE CONTROL OVER AN ACTUAL PERCENTAGE OF THIS CLUSTER'S RESOURCES
>PEARL HARBOOOOOUUUUR!

>>15705855

>Relativistic kill vehicles

They are never established to possess those, though. The best they had were hive blocks that were launched at speeds that could be intercepted by standard nuclear weapons.

I saw your stupid complaint in an earlier thread phrased differently, it hasn't gotten any smarter.

>>15705864
If you don't really care that whatever you're shooting's going to fall appart upon impact, those hive block mass drivers do offer something close to that option.

And even if they can't, it shouldn't be too much of a challenge to simply shoot enough and/or simply turn them around and just accelerate a planetoid into whichever planet humanity's remnants are occupying.

Considering the level of resources and no fucks given those silicium aliens command, starting an actual war with them if you can't make 100% sure that you can successfully genocide them in one go is the height of stupidity.

>>15705973
I don't think the humans want to start a war with the siliconlmaos at all, Kasumi says something about peaceful coexistence for all living things in the whole universe. They just want to find out where the Creators live and convince them that human beings are real living things, despite being carbon-based. Then we'll assumedly have a Star Trek-style Galactic Federation except with more titties.

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Who's taller Miki or Hibiki?

Hey guys I just wanted to say that if you liked the bits in MLA where Takeru's knowledge of Virtual-On makes superior OSes for TSFs, you'll probably like Knights & Magic which has a mecha nerd go to a fantasy world with giant robots and become an engineer and go "hey guys what if our robots had EXTRA ARMS and could FLY"

>>15706386
Since all Im watching this season are kakegurui, hajimete no gal and skirt no naka wa. Might as well try it if it's actually good.

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>>15706386
It also has a Takemikazuchi Type 00R Blue called Ikagura. Coincidence?

>>15705853
Life extension.

>>15705855
The bigger problem is the world uniting under one government. Humans need ethnostates, and competition and warfare between these states are the what makes humanity strong. Look at how much advancement we underwent thanks to the world wars. One of the problems with this modern era is that our disgust of other races has been eroded (thanks to the lack of wars and globalist agenda). Back in the 1970s, people would have looked forward to seeing a foreigner tortured in a public square. Nowadays, we're more likely to want to say foreigner as friends rather than enemies. All this globalist crockery makes me want to hate Kouki.

>>15706589
>Look at how much advancement we underwent thanks to the world wars.

Yes, lots of infant tech from the prewar periods got enough funding stuffed up its fanny to be made reasonably practical in a hurry. At the same time, the embargos and blockades, the lack of information exchange between the nations and the general lack caused by the war led to everything of value being researched three times, with each result being modified to account for that specific country's war-related limitations.

We could do that anytime now and probably three times as fast if not for the rich who absolutely need that same cash to be dialed into their bank accounts.

>>15705855
>agitate
The BETA aren't war machines, they're harvesters that attack humans due to a bug or oversight. They're just heading over to the creators to say "dude your robots are killing us, patch that shit".

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>>15706386
thanks for sharing m8, enjoyed the 3 episode so far in this boring season.
But it kinda reminded me of onii-sama but in a /m/ show

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>>15706386
I can't watch this shit as a Finn. Those names are so retarded.

>>15706589
>All this globalist crockery makes me want to hate Kouki.

Hate him if you want, but "globalist crockery" has been a part of Muv-Luv for a while. Takeru makes friends with the African and Chinese soldiers he first meets in BETAverse, the multinational Eishi fighting in Japan (like that other black dude with the dreads), and so on, and so forth. ML isn't the first series I'd go to if I wanted a paen to xenophobia.

Hell, if you want to talk about scientific progress, it's even dumber. I suppose /pol/ might say it's a good idea to hate foreigners, but look up the history of the US nuclear program--tons of foreigners, not the least of whom was Albert Einstein, worked on the bombs. Even today, a great deal of American technological progress is propelled by American scientists working together with "foreigners," whether colleagues in Europe or Asia or Indian and Chinese dudes coming here to work at MIT. It's hardly self-evident that a certain moustached man was correct when he said that ethnic strife is necessary for progress.

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>>15705646

>Knows the discomfort she causes Takeru during their first interactions
>Still goes about causing more discomfort, such as sleeping in his bed

Is she a tease?

>>15707607
speaking of that
have we seen muslims in muvluv verse?

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>>15707763

>>15707763

Declared jihad on the BETA in the 1970s, got smashed by the BETA who were passing through to Eurasia, then in the 2000s, one-upped by the not!Christians and faded into obscurity because they haven't jacked an entire UN base at once yet.

>>15707839
Isnt that a poo which is most likely hindu

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>>15707867
No. She's Iranian.

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>>15707763

>>15704149
>>15704388
If TDA Takeru is the Takeru that returned to alternative. Shouldnt he be dead inside, knows everything like original hive, wouldnt have suffered ptsd, solo Meiya's team without needing to adjust Chizuru and Kei's mechs.

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Stella

>>15706386
>Knights & Magic
yep, picked it up because someone said it had a similar premise to ML.

>>15706648
>"dude your robots are killing us, patch that shit".

Nah you make for a good source of biomass.

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>>15708411

>humanity finds the creators and opens dialogue with them
>the creators not only back the BETA, but launch a counter-invasion to stamp out humanity before they can solidify their positions

I have been out of the loop what time does stream start EST /m/?

>>15705756
kickstarter literally killed this series

>>15708596
>Kouki/age oddly motivated
>Alternative 2 is not a dream now
>Kickstarter killed, not saved
This is why we can't have nice things.

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>>15708473
I've always had an idea in the back of my that the Silicoids know that Carbon based life can obviously evolve naturally. Hell we humans on earth IRL can "imagine" silicon based life existing elsewhere in the universe in our science fiction and the furthest we have fucking gotten is our moon. Its nigh impossible that an actual space-faring race hasn't at least considered the opposite.

"Carbon life can't naturally exist" is probably something they ingrained into the BETA to make sure they never turned against their masters. I mean would you tell YOUR genetically engineered mining drones that something like them can be "real people"? As long as the BETA believe all carbon life is engineered as opposed to evolved they will always see themselves as subservient to *real* (silicoid) lifeforms

So yeah, First Contact is probably gonna be a wash. Silicoids can't accept humanity without potentially open the door to the Superior Existences asking uncomfortable questions

>>15708623
From a certain point of view, this would be the same scenario if humans sent out Von Neunmenn space probes to mine heavy metals...and they encounter a heavy metal based lifeform.
Stop moving ore, I'm trying to smelt you.

>>15708623

>turns out Silicoids hate the guts of genuine carbon-based life-forms because they were nearly genocided by one some time ago

Or

>after years of tense negotiations, anti-alien human faction takes control of doomsday weapon and wipes out Silicoid peace delegation, then starts a 3-way by declaring war of extermination on Silicoids and denounces Solar Union as illegitimate leadership

LET THE GALAXY BURN

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>>15708857
And then we have space elves invading saying some bastard screwed up their precious causality portal.

>>15708872
So we crest of the stars now?
I'm okay with this.

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>>15708885
Well, Meiya's characteristic speech patterns came from Lafiel after all.

>>15707677

>Calling an elementary school girl a tease

It's called naive innocence

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I want to see Kasumi's face as she read my lewd thoughts about her.

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>>15708976
>did she since wake when up

© 吉宗鋼紀・ixtl / テレビ東京 / オルタネイティヴ第一計画 for Total Eclipse, and © 吉宗鋼紀・ixtl / テレビ東京 / オルタネイティヴ第二計画 for Schwarzesmarken
© 吉宗鋼紀・ixtl / テレビ東京 / オルタネイティヴ第三計画 is when the third anime in the franchise is made

>>15710004
They got bought over by Xebec though.

>>15710021
Xebec was already Muv-Luv as fuck.
This could go well.

>>15710027
>Xebec
Fafner.

>>15710027
>A Muv-Luv adaptation as good as Fafner Exodus
Sounds good to me.

>>15710028
>>15710027
Funnily enough, it also has waifus, although with most not being stacked.

>>15710029
Depends on the staff, of course, as long as they don't rehire the same guy that keeps fudging up Age game adaptations. To think he helmed the ZOE anime projects.

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>>15710021
>>15710027
>xebec
HELL YEAH

>>15710154
>Depends on the staff
If the FMP pv is any indication of what to expect i would get hype.
This might be the real reason FMP was delayed.

>>15710172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1vKwhQ6qP8

>>15710004
>>15710021
What's going on?

>>15710004
I don't know how to feel about Eurofront's adaption being the one to actually get a competent adaption team. I mean, it's nice, but EF's source is definitely the weakest of all the spinoffs.

>>15710371
where are they getting the money for this

cookie was waving around keys to a new car in the last stream

>>15710439
>where are they getting the money for this
weren't they just bought off awhile ago by that anti-export company or something

>>15710492

If Xebec brought age from ixtl, wouldn't they pay ixtl instead?

Well, it depends on if the company being traded in the transaction gets a cut of the deal or not. I don't know enough about corporate finances to know if they do.

>>15710496
I have no idea.
All I want to know if this will have us more anime adaptions

>>15710496
the company getting bought would receive money from their new sugar daddies for an approved project

if euroshit's getting an adaptation despite the source being weak then it's clearly to gauge interest and see how successful it would be

>>15710371
Is Eurofront weak since we havent heard anything from them at TDA except for the French loli?

>>15710529
Eurofront is weak because it's a side side story.

>>15710499
>>15710371
>Eurofront
Actually Kouki mentioned after Strike Frontiers success he plans on continuing with his dream of Muv-Luv adaptation.

So this might be trilogy hype, it would make sense following Age's activity as of late.

>>15710556
I am excited to hear that yet scared

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>>15710556
Please be real

>>15710556
>>15710499
>Muv-Luv trilogy anime announced
>Ban on export outside of Japan
(R)age!!

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>>15710529

It has had the least focus out of all of them so far. There were a few TSFIA stories and a Chronicles VN, but no lasting plotline. Prior to SM's ending cameo, Eurofront's main direction was just "jolly adventures of 3 nuggets joining the armed forces".

>>15710563
>>15710568
>please be real
If they do it i'm willing to bet Azusa would handle the modernized script of Extra/Unlimited. So we would get something more on the levels of Altered Fable.

>>15710529
It's weak because it's characters are weak. They're enjoyable characters, but so far, haven't shown to be anything more than comic relief. They don't have the internal conflicts or development that define TDA, SM, or trilogy characters. The main girl, Ilfie, is dumber than a sack of potatoes. Her whole character thus far has been a cute, happy go lucky clueless blonde outside of her TSF.

Why are people talking about xebec? Wasn't it Avex who bought them?

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>>15710556

I would like BONES to pick up the series, but we're going to get monkey pawed and get Liden again.

Extra - Omnibus 1 cour
Unlimited - Meiya 1 cour
ALTERNATIVE - 2 cour

>>15710756
Liden at least did a better job than Satelight.

>>15710756
>>15710758
Didn't Liden do the new berserk anime? D:

>>15710792
Oh come on.. lel
They also did Initial D Legends.

Just as a reminder for people speculating eurofront the new ost's for Muv-Luv were made keeping in mind of an anime adaptation and the final chapter for Alternative had 5 designers for the mecha.

I think this hype is very real /m/.

>>15710556
>success
It's not a success. the clear pandering to whales has driven most players away. the events have become broken difficult, with new stuff behind locked behind said difficulties

>>15710756
For extra, they could just adapt both Sumika and Meiya in tandem. Hell, make two final episodes where Takeru picks either one.

Alternative would be feel butchered if toned down for two cours.

>>15710556
Xebec seems like the perfect studio to do this. They can do mech anime and lewds. It's all good.

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>>15710884
How bout skip the final day as Takeru wakes up remembering everything and about to make his decision, he's suddenly in Unlimited verse.

>Alternative project III
Guy's i don't think this is the trilogy.
I think they're literally betting everything on an Alternative project IV..
Let's review age's activity.
>Suspicious polls are suspicious
>Kickstarter is a success
>New ports released to jp and na including win 10
>2 new osts are made with anime in mind
>Strike frontier is successful
>Anime plans begin
>Manga ends revealing alternative 2
>Handful of mecha designers were involved for final chapter
>NA release of Alternative is soon
Think about it what's the best way to garner fans for a trilogy adaptation. By putting all chips on the table betting on current fans and new who just had their heart ripped out of their chest.

This is Alternative 2.
It might explain Degica's promise for something new and why Alternative has been taking so long to translate because it's an unfinished product.

Age did also say all attention would be placed on the localization.

>>15710898
That tease would fucking destroy me, but it makes sense from a narrative perspective I guess.

Maybe have the two main girls get OVAs? Maybe have Meiya have a a fucking chance down the line too.

>>15710903

>just had

I mean, last I heard, the translation wasn't canned.

>>15710909
Meiya having a chance doesn't work with Alternative, just make her the end they animate in unlimited.

>>15710903
Not to mention the competition they already face that keeps increasing by the day for visual novels and anime in japan and internationally.
Re:Zero anime/vn, Dies Irae anime/vn, Konosuba anime/vn just to name a few.

They've already been beaten to the punch so they have to strike hard while Isekai is still popular.

>>15710915
I guess. I just want to see something different with that story specifically, as the VN is 11 years old. Would like to see some new stuff.

I just wanna avoid Noble Confidant so Meiya's end doesn't sting as much as it did. Too much suffering accidentally caused by Takeru.

>>15710910
I'm implying after the release their hearts will be ripped out after reading.

>>15710920
I hope they release Muvluv on a season filled with shit shows so it gets more attention, kinda like this anime season.

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>>15710800
>Yuuko vs Takahashi animated by Liden

I would fuck a box of toothpicks just to see that.

>>15708891
If only the Banner of the Stars novels were translated... Or another publisher gave it another shot. Fuck Tokyopop.
I like how "Abh" seems to be a shorthand for "Abhuman", in spite of the in-universe etymology.

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>>15710758
>Liden at least did a better job than Satelight.

>>15710923
>>15710915
It would be neat if they could somehow pull an Amagami-style approach, even though it's unlikely. Although it'd be hilarious if they released an OVA-only episode covering Marimo's "path" in Extra.

>>15710573
I'm sure Sentai Filmworks would get around that somehow.

>>15711250
>>spoiler
I'd give all my money to see that.

>>15705646
Kasumi a shit.

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>>15711544
Can Kasumi even cook
Easily BTFO.

>>15711602
Ability to cook doesn't prove anything. Meiya can't cook at all and she's the best ML girl ever. Meanwhile, the worst girl in the franchise, Beatrix, can cook.

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>>15713277
This is true.

Meiya learning how to cook was real sweet though.

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So I have a request. Is there an archive somewhere that has all of the uncensored CGs across all the games? Been trying to build a nice collection.

>>15713716
Also interested in this

>>15713298
One of my absolute favorite moments in the trilogy.

>>15706589
>Humans need ethnostates

Nope. The US proves a diverse nation is stronger than an ethnic one. That's not even getting into globalization.

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Could you beat him in a fight?

>>15713949
> you're in the club and this guy slaps your girlfriend's ass

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Why is Takeru fantasizing the bbc with his harem. Is he a cuck?

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>>15713949
>Punches bater
>Get chomped anyways

If our nigga can't do it then no one can.

>>15713924
>The US proves a diverse nation is stronger than an ethnic one.

The US mostly escapes being a truly ethnonathinal state because its upper class additionally irrationally hates its underclass.

>>15711250
Sentai should never touch another anime ever again. They already ruined girls und panzer

>>15714141
>they already ruined
... if your argument is cg you might be the most retarded human being on this planet.

>>15714148

He means English dubs.

Damn, we need one of these with BETA mods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC2HQRdyxds

>>15714168
How bad was the dub? I know Sentai's dubs are generally pretty bad, but...

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>>15714695
>How bad was the dub?
Like listening to the silky smooth sound of 35 packs of cigarettes a day.

>>15714709
So how would their SM dub sound like?

>>15714734
Think for yourself, stop being such a sheep.

>>15714734
Iris and most of the other girls would sound like bitches (imagine dub Asuka). Beatrix would sound like a man trying to do a woman's voice. Theo would sound too much like a shonen protagonist, Walter would be a black man. The only character who'd sound great would be Axmann for some god knows what reason.

>>15714754
>The only character who'd sound great would be Axmann for some god knows what reason.
>axmannfags
He'd sound like they brought a guy who was born in the states but learned German for 2 months from his dad so he does this weird barking german thing every other sentence in a shitty forced accent.

>>15714757
No, he'd sound like a sleazebag with hints of gay.

>>15714761
>hints
Not with that haircut, he'd have a constant gay agenda and try to convert the rest of the cast to fight the patriarchy in the middle of his "i'm evil" lines.

>>15714763
To be fair, Axmann actually got the whole pre death sympathetic villain spiel showing that he was just as desperate as everyone else, something that the other villains did not get.

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Your senseis.

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>>15714992
I always thought that cosplaying Muv-Luv would be impossible.

>>15714914
>To be fair, Axmann actually got the whole pre death sympathetic villain spiel showing that he was just as desperate as everyone else, something that the other villains did not get.
We're talking about dubs, not you're retarded axmann isn't that bad spiel. Nice try at changing the subject, though.

>>15706577
I thought that was an airframe refit.

>>15714998
The Yuuko took some heavy liberties with the hairstyle but it works really well.

>>15714998
And you were right.

>>15714998
Terrible. Anything made by fans is always guaranteed to be horrible.

>>15714998
I like it.

>>15715201
It's all the post SM newfags.

>>15715207
>trilogy cosplay
>post SM newfags
I don't follow

>>15714998
>>15714992
>>15714990
>>15714986

This is some 3DPD I can get behind.

OT, it pisses me the fuck off Alternative is still isn't released. Shit takes forever. I want them to finish it always, so they can get to the other entries in the serie.

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>>15715002
He was probably the stasi I sympathized with most from the anime (which isn't saying much since they were all horrible people, like seriously age, what happened to understandable and relatable antagonists like Sagiri or the Americans). Still, he was weirdly likable, and though I wasn't sad to see him die, there definitely wasn't any of the satisfaction I found in watching Beatrix get reamed.

>>15715880
>He was probably the stasi I sympathized with most from the anime
No that's saying a lot actually. What happened to people on 4chan who liked to joke and discuss cool things? Why is everyone a narcissistic scumbag with symptoms sociopathy and being an aspie?

>>15715893
Learn2contex

I was saying that I didn't like any of the stasi, but I found Axmann to be the least offensive. It's like the Titans, where I absolutely hate Bask and Jamitov, and just dislike (and can even sympathize a little with) Jerid. There are gradients of hate and love.

>>15715906
>I was saying that I didn't like any of the stasi, but I found Axmann to be the least offensive
>Learn2contex
The ironing. The context in which you've viewed Axmann is hilariously narrow. If you were a fujo you'd have something going on but you're just dumb.

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>>15715880
You should have posted part two

>>15715880
For me, Andropov would be the most relatable since we never really see him directly do anything particularly savage. A lot of people like to bring up the nuke thing, but it's not that illogical. If the could actually get a nuke on the BETA, that would solve many of their problems. I never understood why Beatrix stopped his plan, other than she was stupid or just wanted to see the DDR fail. The only thing that hampers him is that he's pretty ugly and lacks airtime. Of course, he's not a nice person, but he's not really as self serving as the other two major Stasi characters. He's ultimately just a man serving his country the USSR, not Germany.

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>>15716029
>Andropov

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>>15716045
this guy, remember?

>>15716066
Oh, Schmidt. You should have just said so.

>>15716075
Andropov is his real identity though.

>>15716078
And there you go spouting fanfiction again.

>>15713283
Really wish captcha wouldn't keep changing formats on me...

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>>15713283
>screencapping
>not right-clicking/saving-as on captcha field

>>15716029
>A lot of people like to bring up the nuke thing, but it's not that illogical.
He apparently wanted to nuke the rebels in the LN, but I've never seen actual proof.

And him being KGB was an anime only thing, he was as self serving as the other two in his other versions.

Why dont armies use landmines to reduce the initial wave of baters?

>>15716418
That's too bad. I would have wanted one villain in SM who were misguided or forced into it rather than just flat out evil. I usually like how the villains were portrayed in the original Trilogy. Putting myself in their limited perspective, I could see how I might go along with what Sagiri is saying. We as the audience however, have a much broader picture on things, so we can see that they are wrong.

Then again, we only really focus on stasi leadership. I bet that if we looked at the regular grunts, that we'd get more ambiguity. I'm reminded of that scene where the stasi soldiers were horrified at Theodor's sister's cruelty. And self destructive, shallow sociopaths like Beatrix, Axmann, or Schmidt, are all too common in positions of power in real life. Even if everything is falling apart, they'll throw their nations into the fire just to party a little longer, a little harder before, and be King (or Queen) for another day before everything comes crashing down.

>>15716550
>I would have wanted one villain in SM who were misguided or forced into it rather than just flat out evil.
> And self destructive, shallow sociopaths like Beatrix
cool beans

>>15716589
Beatrix is schizophrenically written, and there is only partial overlap between versions. For the anime version he is right, for the LN its debatable and the VN is its own can of worms as her behaviour is too inconsistent between routes. Though "self destructive fool" would be a fitting description for her there.

>>15715328
>Alternative is still isn't released.
Maybe they are waiting for Oct 22...?

>>15716550
It's like you're pretending to be ignorant and retarded just so you can talk about how much you hate Beatrix. We get it, dumbass. Keep writing essays just to shitpost

>>15716601
I mean, they're practically screaming in your face that Katia/Iris are right, and that the stasi are wrong. There's also the fact that later stories from outsiders treat the outcome of the rebellion as a good thing.

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>>15716608
Just in time
Im not mad if that happens

>>15716609
I wasn't even specifically talking about her. I needed to specify the difference between stasi leadership trio and the regular Joes in the stasi.

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>>15716648
>I mean, they're practically screaming in your face that Katia/Iris are right, and that the stasi are wrong.
And they make all three relevant members of the Stasi leadership have different goals, to the point of giving one of them the only actual plan to solve the problem they have. And if they slapped the viewer/reader harder with the "Beatrix had good intentions" stick, regardless of how believable/fitting to her characterization it is, they'd be slapping your teeth out. They also make the 666th largely irrelevant to later developments. Katia is right, Iris less so, but neither of them apparently affects later policy.

>There's also the fact that later stories from outsiders treat the outcome of the rebellion as a good thing.
Lets be honest here, who wouldn't cheer for the fall of a totalitarian dictatorship which refused to cooperate with the rest of the world and was willing to "stab other countries units in the back" for mere ideology? For anyone in universe, the destinction between the SED rule and the week of Stasi rule is most likely irrelevant, in their eyes they are one and the same.

The only reasonable counter is the IRL argument on whether or not Beatrix's plan would have worked better or not, and no one in-universe cares about that.

>>15716668
The only "regular joe" Stasi with any characterization comes accross as rather decent actually.

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Whats the consensus here, who is superior?
Yuuhi or Meiya

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>>15716995

The one that can actually punch me in the stomach and step on my face.

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>>15716995
I want to breath in their air intakes.

>>15716995
Obviously Yuuhi.

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>>15715328
>>15716666
>>15716608
I have insider knowledge.

In short everyone working on the Alternative TL quit or moved on. The build they showed at AX used the fan translation.
There is 1 man working on it now and he plans to take all the time in the world since it's a contract based.

Degica is a piece of shit company and everyone I know who worked for them hated every second of it.

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>>15717151
W-what happens to photonflowers and melodies then?
Fuck I was hoping to read translated altered fable and supplement after years of finding out this franchise

>>15717151
>I have insider knowledge.
Yeah and my uncle works for Nintendo. What a credible source you've got there, anon.

>>15717151
>In short everyone working on the Alternative TL quit or moved on. The build they showed at AX used the fan translation.
>There is 1 man working on it now and he plans to take all the time in the world since it's a contract based.
>Degica is a piece of shit company and everyone I know who worked for them hated every second of it.
Well fuck. But we need proofs man.

>sadpanda gallery hasn't been updated in like eighteen years
>spider776 got banned as far as I know

where are the lewds

>>15717151
>The build they showed at AX used the fan translation.
That's wrong though. The AX version is the kind of TL that steam Extra has. Basically reworded with localization. It still needs proofreading

>>15717263
I know you fuckers have the newest lewds somewhere on imgur, I want them now

>>15717276
Which girl?

>>15717282
All of them? Kasumi if you don't have a full gallery

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>>15717221
because Evan is the one doing the translation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqphCwum19k
How was the VR game anyway, did anyone here have occulus?

>>15717422
what does it feel like to get chomped if anyone actually tried it?

>>15717364
If Evan actually wrote it the way you posted that picture then why wasn't anything of that discussed either on this board or on /m/? I'm pretty sure it would have been mentioned because there are still a lot of anons anxiously waiting for the Steam release. It's the end of July in case you didn't realize it yet.

>>15717544
>>/m/
God damn it, that was supposed to be /a/.

>>15716699
>And they make all three relevant members of the Stasi leadership have different goals, to the point of giving one of them the only actual plan to solve the problem they have.
We don't really know Axmann's goals beyond survive. Schmidt is trying to throw Germany under the bus to save Russia. Beatrix's motivations are convoluted (there's a lot of questions over whether she's actually following Jurgen or just using him as an excuse for her sadism) but her goals aren't.

>And if they slapped the viewer/reader harder with the "Beatrix had good intentions" stick, regardless of how believable/fitting to her characterization it is, they'd be slapping your teeth out.
The anime was pretty consistent about Beatrix being a stasi to the core and enjoying all the evil and corruption in that organization, more so than the other stasi. Her intentions could not be described as good, any more than Axmann's could be described as selfless.

>Katia is right, Iris less so, but neither of them apparently affects later policy.
Katia is shown to have massive sway by the end, and there's even a major political party named after her. With the way SM ended on a hopeful note, I think that they're implying that Theo and Katia were the good guys, and were the ones the audience should agree with. Even if they bungle it afterwards, overthrowing the stasi, killing Axmann and Beatrix, and reforming the government were all positive, heroic actions. SM isn't a very complicated story. It doesn't have moral ambiguity of the other Muv-Luv stories that people seem to love. It's a story of good vs evil, white hats vs black hats, elves vs orcs. The division between the sides are stark and extreme.

>>15716995
In AF, did Takeru still promise to marry Meiya? The scene at the park makes sense because of Yuuhi's death, but doesn't make too much sense if she's still alive.

>>15717630
>Her intentions could not be described as good
>humanity's victory
>not good
I myself feel that its tacked on and just a shitty attempt at last minute "humanizing" but its there.

And that's just the anime. Its even more blantant in the other versions, in which she hates her superiors and collegues.

>Katia is shown to have massive sway by the end,
In the anime, the LN is more ambiguos, but the VN makes her irrelevant after her speech by making her survival pointless with that "pick your own canon" thing they did with the routes, and if those spoilers are right, her being turned into a mere figurehead by the new government and possibly brainwashed will be the final canon version.

>The division between the sides are stark and extreme.
There are multiple attempts at muddling the sides. Most are half-assed but they are there.

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>>15717685
*forgot pic

>>15717685
>I myself feel that its tacked on and just a shitty attempt at last minute "humanizing" but its there.

It really didn't humanize her. Her last moments were spent cursing at someone else and saying that she'll enjoy watching everyone die from the afterlife. It just made her seem like even more of a monster. Theo even throws her words back at her. Usually, in anime, if the villain isn't totally bad, the hero will give them some respect or be slightly sad when they die. The fact that Beatrix doesn't get a respectful death means that we weren't really meant to sympathize with her at all. The overall tone was "good riddance to bad trash." I remember back during the anime where it made many people just hate her more. Even Axmann, who everyone hates, has less on screen villainy and gets more sympathy by the end.

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>>15717713
>It really didn't humanize her.
That's why its half assed. It goes on into the now costumary Onsen drawing.

>Her last moments were spent cursing at someone else and saying that she'll enjoy watching everyone die from the afterlife.
That's the LN.

> Usually, in anime, if the villain isn't totally bad, the hero will give them some respect or be slightly sad when they die.
You really think it would be in character for Theo to feel sad about the death of someone whom he sees as the personification of everything he hates? The getting slightly sad role is taken by Iris.

>The overall tone was "good riddance to bad trash."
Not really, like most of the last episode it was everywhere and nowhere at the same time.

>Even Axmann, who everyone hates,
Check the thread, "I can understand him" and your own "his goal was survival" isn't really hatred.

>>15717752
It's kinda sad. She should be a tragic figure but is instead the hate sink.

>>15717825
>She should be a tragic figure but is instead the hate sink.
No, age couldn't decide what they wanted her to be and tryed to do both at the same time. Now we have to live with that.

>>15717834
Maybe the intent was to show how a likable, charismatic, and intelligent person could become so warped or fall to evil? It's also a nice contrast to Katia and Iris, who remain pure despite everything happening to them because of the hope they hold in their hearts.

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>>15717985
>It's also a nice contrast to Katia and Iris, who remain pure despite everything happening to them because of the hope they hold in their hearts.
>and Iris
man it's like, I don't even know anymore

>>15717985
It would work if her backstory was relevant to the plot, but its so irrelevant that in the end its just bad writing. Whether Beatrix is sadistic or not, has altruistic motives or not, hates her job and her bosses or not, is a true believer in totalitarianism or not, affects the plot so little, that in the end it doesn't matter. The way she is presented in the main series, all supposed positives matter little or not at all, and are buried under her attitude, actions and resentment, so in the end her motivations don't matter at all.

And Iris can fall quite low with very little motivation. Katia is the pure one, Iris is only "pure" in Theo's imagination.

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>>15716550
>I'm reminded of that scene where the stasi soldiers were horrified at Theodor's sister's cruelty
If you were looking for ambiguity amongst stasi soldiers you probably shouldn't have brought up Theodor's sister considering of all of them she was the one tortured and tormented non stop for years and forced to work for them to keep Theo alive and driven half-crazy by Axmann's self-motivated cruelty and brainwashing. And thats just based off what the anime portrays, and while everything the stasi do to her doesn't exactly make them look ambiguous if you came up with her as an example of enacting stasi cruelty rather than a result of it then you're either mistaken or the anime fucked up. Or both. That and its bullshit considering stasi soldiers already did a lot worse to Theodor's sister, and how the rebels are also fine with using torture and execution like what they too did to her, and what Gretel and Sylwia wanted to do to her based solely off the possibility she could have been a spy before hand and I specifically remember Gretel grinning at the thought.

>>15717990
Iris:Beatrix::Katia:Lise

>>15705761
Read muv-luv a few years ago, came back recently, is this the sequel to Alternative we all were waiting for is this just a fanfic?

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>>15718166
It's official. They even hired a bunch of new mecha artist for it.

>>15718183
Is it a teaser for a Alternative Sequel? Or is it just a extra for the manga.

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>>15718187
Could be either; we don't know.

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>5 hours before the end of the event, I finally get a Shirogane
I wasn't hoping for this card anymore, I thought it was reserved to players owning a bonus card or something. Even the hr tickets only gave me 3 ssr from the beginning of the game so useless now. And maybe 100 gems.

>>15718192
Nobody translating this yet I presume?

>>15718545
the manga TL is far behind

>>15718287
>Shirogane
Shilogwane

>>15718545
>>15718549

The epilogue is translated.

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>>15718730

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>>15718734

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>>15705855
orbital canons. Exterminatus let the furry of god splitter befall the beta creators.

>>15718756
Don't forget that humans also have G-Reactors and warpgates in the future too.

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>>15718756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67JpMyrOVE

is there some vns that come close to muv luv experience?

can't replay until official release

WAITING

WAITING


WAIITNG

ALTERNATIVE

SOOON RIGHT

>>15717151
>>15717364
>1 man working on it now and he plans to take all the time in the world
In other words, we have to wait forever because Evan is sitting on this and taking his own sweet time?

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Whoever mentioned Knight's and Magic on one of the past threads, thanks, this is some pretty good shit.

>>15718828
Muramasa I guess? Or Baldr Sky to a lesser extend.

So, I just finished playing Alternative.
Is there a place where I can find a transcription of the speeches at the end of Unlimited and Alternative?
Also, there is no gallery?

>>15719190
Its at game folder
sadpanda

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>>15717667
I just realized I have only played Sumika, Kasumi and Marimo routes

>>15719185
Finally got around to watch it after seeing it here too. It's decent yes

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Is Kiminozo guy still alive?
Episode 6 when?

>>15719279
>Kiminozo guy
Yes, why?

>>15707994
> void* Sumika::popShiroganeMemories(Shirogane Takeru)

>>15708838
>First Law. An existence may not injure a life form or, through inaction, allow a life form to come to harm.
>Second Law. An existence must obey orders given it by life forms except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
>Third Law. An existence must protect itself as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

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Is there a way to roll slots from previous event or are my leftovers medals lost?
Also,
>Manami cp card

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>new girl is from alt 3 like Kasumi

>>15718828
Not sure what you mean by Muv-Luv experience, but Fate/stay night is pretty good, even though it's not /m/.

>>15719468
but that doesnt look like a russian, arent alt 3 done by russian with communist sperm?

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>>15718756
>>15705855
>>15705761
>>15705646
Is it another branch of parallel world where Kasumi didnt join Takeru Extra-verse and just stayed in Betaverse?

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Simply the best.

>>15707994
Takeru loses his memory while transitioning remember? So he is pretty much revive back to where he doesn't remember anything other than his skills and retain his muscles.

>>15719625
How are the barrels and spikes even glowing?

>>15719453
Lost forever.

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>>15719453
>Training Gekishin that is canonically inferior to even the standard Gekishin due to lowered output in all parameters is an SSR

It must have some fucking amazing control/disrupt abilities when in play to make up for that.

>>15719516
Yukos daughter.

>>15719969
So Yuuko's eggs with Russian sperm.

Again, I thought that all espers used Sandek's dead sister as their template. All of them are half sisters who have different fathers but share the same "mother."

>>15719869
It has the highest attack stat for Speed machine gun TFS.

Manami, true love made woman
https://imgur.com/a/L1LgW

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Doctor 結城 was working on alt3 and didn't want to get rid of the girl so he took care of her like his own daughter hence that last name.
He was a colleague of research of Yuuko so when he died, Yuuko took care of her and gave her the first name 優子. Of course it wasn't the name she had before.
And Yuuko made her recognize as her mother so that she doesn't oppose her.

>>15708606
>oddly motivated
>still like a fucking year late porting a game to Steam
Unless Alt 2 is just hiring a fan fiction writer to plagiarize Starship Troopers for sub-minimum wage I wouldn't consider it to be coming any time.

>>15721074
i bet alt2 is gonna be a major letdown-nothing but cool mech designs and angsty teenagers

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Are there links where I can get Altered Fable OSTs / Intrumental version. It was really comfy.

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>>15721169
emperor of mankind is ripped from the void and helps granny kasumi.

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>>15721169
>>15721509
No, it's going to be a series of timeslips where you try to save everyone, to set up the future where you can defeat the final boss.

>>15721567
where the emotional hook is everyone from altered fable get massacred by siliconians in some sort of stupid attempt to demoralize the enemy

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>>15721415
http://vgmdb.net/search?q=muv+luv

Unless someone rips it from the game, I don't there is is an OST.

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>>15721567
>where you can defeat the final boss.

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>>15721509
>>15721567
STILL WAITING FOR MY KUROGANE CARD
STRIKE FRONTIER COME NOW

>>15707677

"Knows" is a strong word, Anon. She might experience the discomfort he feels, but that doesn't mean she understands why he's in discomfort.

>>15722326
What would they even show in the related H-scene(s)? Him being banged by some other guy? Not that I would mind.

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Oh God Im dying
>Woman 2
>Girl voice
>The nigger is talking

>>15722437
Damn everyone in that picture look so shit

>>15722426
Male's cards don't have sex scenes.

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Btw why cant I have a date with classrep in this part?

>>15722480
I'm probably playing the devil's advocate but my guess is that it had to do with budget and time constraints. Kouki and âge in general wanted to make everything sound and look good but yeah, cars and shit. I don't think I need to tell anyone here how infamous they are with releases.

>>15710021
Don't you mean Avex?

>>15721074
the manga is already fanfiction-tier

So I'm confused. What in the hell is going on with the Vita English version by the translation group on Kickstarter? Steam English version released, Japanese trilogy released years ago on Vita, but they still haven't gotten the English game out on that system?

>>15723111
They already got the fan's money.

>>15723111
there's like 2 people working on everything now, they took your money and ran

>>15722007
What kind of plot are they gonna even make with the silliconians?

It can literally only go like 3 ways

1. Silliconians don't like carbon based life forms so they tell us to fuck off, if they really don't like us they find where we came from and kill everyone there with the technology they have that is many times more advanced then us.

2. Silliconians realize they fucked up and remove Beta from our galaxy.

3. Silliconians are long extinct/transcedended.

>>15723270
The entire premise doesn't even make sense. How are you going to find something that could be millions of light years away in any direction with no clues whatsoever?

>>15723111
what were you expecting from a kickstarter that got a shitload of money to copy and paste fan translations?

>>15723270
3 is the only valid option

>>15723229
>he goes along with some made up story by an anon on 4Chan
But sure, keep being a cynical grump if that's what you want.

>>15723482
Sounds like what most of this board does when it concerns itself about SM.

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Gib plushie

>>15716995
Context check.

>>15720830
>jpg
>artifacts

Apparently your appraisal of her is purely sarcastic.

>>15723668
>jpg artifact autist
You're entire existence is satire.

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>>15723675
>You're

>>15723866
it took you 2 hours to come up with that, you really are an autist

>>15723277
I'd wager they could try to find the siliconians by following the trajectories of the resource packets the BETA shoot off. Either that, or maybe they got a lead from Mars or something, maybe they found something that led to the Siliconian homeworld from one of the Martian hives they assumedly conquered.

>>15722737
Nothing wrong with the art. Everyone in pic are just irrrelevant shit characters.

>>15723668
You mean there are people who genuinely like her?

>>15724316
They're minor characters, but I dunno, I liked them. They're the pilots Takeru encountered in Unlimited and Alternative, right? I remember one part where he was worried they'd beat up on him, but they ended up complimenting him on the new system he designed. I assumed they died at some point against the BETA, so it's nice to see they're happy and relaxing in this universe. Like I always say, I'd like to see the same for Schwarzesmarken and Total Eclipse characters too.

>>15724346
Shit I thought it would be maximum bullying
But damn, they're bros as fuck

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>>15724346
Wtf just happened anon, Takeru got cucked by gorilla girl.

>>15724373
I'd give my banana to that gorilla.

>>15724346
didnt they all die in that surprise beta attack?

>>15723270
the siliconians were us the entire time, looking at takeru and gang through our monitors, harvesting their misery for our entertainment

>>15724346
They died in the defense of the yokohama base.

>>15724488
Probably, yeah. RIP, they were a cool bunch.

>>15724488
>>15724501
Yeah, that was it, thanks anons. That's why I'm glad they seem to have gotten a happier ending here.

>>15724036
>What is the multiple tabs feature?

Pot, kettle, etc.

>>15726376
>1 day
kettle, pot, etc

>>15719612
What's her problem with airplanes?

>>15726393
Too much whining.

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>>15726405

>>15726405
What's that got to do with flying?

>>15726451
Turbines whining are noisy.

>>15726517
That seems completely irrelevant when the issue she brings up is the fact that airplanes fly.

>>15726557
Whining anons are noisy.

>>15726384
>What is a day job?

You give the impression you have nothing better to do than sit around all day waiting for replies.

>>15726562
If you don't know the answer then don't bother even replying.

>>15726573
>what are timezones?
it's almost like you post your inane trite hours after i'm done my day job.

>>15726588
Amusing how you neglected to consider that when you saw fit to criticize my response time.

>>15726588
>inane
>trite

you really shouldn't use words when you don't even know what they mean.

>>15726762
amusing you're running under that assumption when the point is less the time and more the crap you fill this thread with

you give the impression you have nothing better to do than sit around all day waiting for someone to post jpg images
>>15726765
>you really shouldn't use words when you don't even know what they mean.
you really should look up the definitions of words you don't know, esl

>>15719825
G-materials probably

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>1 day late

Is there a definitive version of this game I should look for if I want to play it?

Is it worth paying for no titties or supporting whoevers translating at all??

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>>15727293
>no titties
there's 18+ patch newfriend
https://steamcommunity.com/app/449830/discussions/0/152390014787380471/

>>15727293
The Steam version.

>>15727293
The first Muv Luv? See >>15727334
and >>15727721.
Muv Luv Alternative and all the rest? Torrent them if you don't wanna wait. Personally I don't believe that Evan is the only translator at work at the moment but it wouldn't surprise me if it would take at least half a year, if not a over a year for MLA to release on Steam officially. Whether the sidestories will end up on Steam as well is quite a guess for now.

>>15717263
He's spider7741 now

>>15717263
>>15727897
And he's keeping all of those for himself and shared these only with Japanese whales that must pay toll with Characters CG's he doesn't have, and temporal access to player account so he can record their SFW and NSFW scenarios and make this collection available only to those who contributed to creation of this gallery collection.

>>15717290
Sorry for late reply(work trip). Which Kasumi There's like 3 of her.

>>15728173
Speaking of SFW scenarios the R rated version of SF still works just fine on DMM but the "all ages" has been gone for months now and I can't see the alternate scenarios I have if I tried. Whats going on?

This twitter account posts some stuff

https://twitter.com/ayungharute/status/890797447542210560

>>15728554
All ages version is supposed to be re released, but it's been some time.
http://muvluvsf.com/

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Reposting this from /a/:

Here are the scans of the final chapter before the epilogue showing Takeru/Kasumi back in Extra:
https://www.mediafire.com/?73rnjb32b1lo5ml

Here are the links the the BZ Land scans up to Volume 15:
https://pastebin.com/uq20DnXH


January 1st, 2049
Historical Yokohama Base Space Port
Operation Cherry Blossom Victory Commemoration Plaza
United Mankind, Founding Commissioner, Yashiro Kasumi
(or One Humanity Project, Mankind Unification Society, whatever.)

Forty-eight years have passed since the destruction of the Original Hive.
As I stand before you now, here on these hallowed grounds where the Noble Seven and I first launched the Kashgar offensive, words cannot express how grateful I am to have lived to see this auspicious day.

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>>15728930
Until now, the course of human history has swung like a pendulum between unification and dissolution.
Times of peace give rise to distrust and strife among brothers, before inevitably dragging us back into the throes of war.

But when confronted with such atrocities, we have proven time and time again our capacity to come together as a species and find common ground in our desire to restore peace and order to the world.
It is a tragic cycle, the repetition of which is an innate propensity of our human nature…

But we did not break out of this cycle through our own intellect, no — it took the invasion of an extraterrestrial race, the BETA, to compel us to change.
In the face of an insurmountable evil that showed no capacity for negotiation, mankind was driven to the edge of extinction in the blink of an eye.

But after a decades-long struggle and billions upon billions of sacrifices, the Noble Seven gave their lives to buy our species a few more decades of survival.

However, even after eradicating the BETA from our solar system and enjoying the recent prosperity that the G-Elements harvested from the Martian hives have allowed, we still have yet to truly come together as a unified people. Instead, we have chosen to engage in fruitless intraspecies conflicts, and we continue to teeter on the verge of self-annihilation.

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>>15728934
Our national, organizational, individual, racial, ethnic, and religious ties…

Organic, genetically enhanced, artificial, or synthetic life…

Our materialistic gains, those triumphs we’ve seized from the jaws of adversity… the will we’ve inherited from our predecessors.

Our stubborn beliefs and refusal to let go of our vested interests are our greatest weaknesses, and have led us to falsely believe the vile notion that dividing ourselves from our brethren is, in fact, the proper way of being.

But five years ago, our entire body of delegates gathered in one room and finally came to an agreement that this infighting must come to an end.

They each acknowledged these weaknesses, and decided to take the first steps on the road to coexistence and mutual prosperity by accepting one another’s differences and abolishing identity politics.

We mustn’t forget, however, that there are still many who cry out in opposition to coexistence, and would sooner take up arms against us than join our cause.

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>>15728937
But we will accept their viewpoints as equally valid nonetheless.

We must tolerate our differences… No matter how deep-seated our prejudices, we will move past them.

Because that is the decision we have come to, of our own volition…

And as we speak, our young warriors are about to embark on yet another perilous journey.

Their mission is of critical importance: to set off for the Siliconian homeworld, and make it known that mankind is indeed a valid form of life.

Yes, this endeavor may ultimately lead us into an interstellar war.

And to be sure, we could just as easily shirk away from that danger and continue to wait with bated breath, as we always have…

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>>15728941
But the decision has already been made - humanity must start moving forward.

Never again can we allow ourselves to commit the folly of entrusting our fate to the whims of others or to starry-eyed optimism.

True peace and prosperity can only be obtained by those who would rise up to claim it for themselves.

We have chosen to overcome our petty rivalries and coexist as equals… There is no reason we cannot do the same with them.

I have every confidence in that.

Go now, brave youths.

We entrust in you our sincerest aspirations, as a callow species that for so long could do nothing but fight amongst ourselves.

We entrust in you the future that all our fallen comrades so dreamed of.

May your journey lay the foundation for a universe in which all living creatures can live together in harmony…

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>>15728945
I’ll never forget you all…

Who you were, and what you left behind…


Also, just realized now that I got >>15728930 and pic related positions swapped.

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>>15728952
END

We U.N. Spacy now!

>>15727223
Now you're changing the subject (again). Also amusing you should fault me for filling the thread with crap when you're the one posting artifact-saturated jpegs.

>you give the impression you have nothing better to do than sit around all day waiting for someone to post jpg images

Just from calling out one post? Now you're just grasping for straws.

>you really should look up the definitions of words you don't know, esl

Feel free to lead by example.

>>15727334
Does it get rid of the mosaics?

>>15729182
No, because the same version of the game is being sold in Japan.

>>15729214
>selling themselves what they've already got

wat

>>15729250
There's been a lot of updates made to it.

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>>15729280
>update
>remove la vida loca

>>15729250
When your business model is selling the same couple thousand people recycled assets in increasingly expensive formats you don't miss an opportunity to resell them the same shit yet again.

>>15729349
>updated engine with better performance
>animated sprites
>continuity fixes
>new UI
>Gallery
>Jukebox
>more OPs and EDs

>>15729392
It's had nearly all of those things for 10 years, long before it was even fan translated. Cropped CGs is also cancer.

>>15729214
Can't they just region-lock the patch?

>>15729404
>Cropped CGs

?

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>>15729441

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>>15729441
Do you think things magically make themselves 16:9? Admittedly some CGs do gain a bit more of the art on the sides and some just become framed like shit with extra empty background.