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>>15685082
It's probably going to be super corny with a lot of uncanny or awkward scenes, but knowing that I'll probably check it out.

Although I wouldn't mind if they went the RvB route too.

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>I’m not ready to go into too much detail about the main gimmick of the show, but me and the team working on it, we’re all just huge fans of anime, of Ghost in the Shell, and any of the Gundam anime we love. Aldnoah Zero. Gargantua. I’m a huge fan of the writing of Gen Urobuchi, who did a whole bunch of science fiction anime in Japan.

>>15685122
Oh shit they're just gonna make some super edgy tryhard shit aren't they?

That explains the Halo esque tacticool look of the mecha.
This is either going to be very decent, or very bad.

I'm gonna make a prediction so screencap this.
The first episode or story arc is gonna have a character (possibly the MC) being the lone survivor of some failed mission or a surprise attack on a planet/city/base.

>>15685082
You made this thread days ago and nobody cared. I know you work for RoosterTeeth because as bad as this board is now I'm sure none of us like the flaming trash heap that is RWBY.

>>15685132
>some super edgy tryhard shit
That's what they turned RWBY into.

>>15685132
>That explains the Halo esque tacticool look of the mecha.
Isn't Monty Oum part of the RWBY team?

Dude has a catalogued boner for Halo, so that's no surprise.

>>15685136
They almost went the same way with RvB, but they handled that show way better than rwby

>>15685139
Didn't he die a few years ago due to some medicine complications because his crazy gf wanted a cat despite him being allergic to them?

>>15685139
>Monty Oum
...dude he's been dead for a good 2 maybe 3 years now.
Had an allergic reaction to some drug during a surgery.

>>15685139
anon, monty oum is fucking dead

>>15685139
>/m/anchild finally connects to the internet after spending 5 years in his 2012 bunker.

>>15685082
that's not a bad looking robo desu

but is their animation still MMD levels?

>>15685082
It's a mecha show, I'll watch it, no questions asked

>>15685143
No, he liked the cat. He died to an allergic reaction due to a medicine used during a routine procedure.

>>15685163
Depends who's working on a scene, but ever since they lost Monty things typically haven't looked as good.

>>15685142
Yeah RvB kind of just went off the rails haven't watched it in a few seasons.

Still had it's moments but it was getting too serious again.

>>15685163
They finally ditched Poser so things LOOK so much better, but the quality of the animation/choreography still varies heavily. Fight scenes, of course, have lost all their charm except for one episode that they had to delay for a week to actually make look good (which did end up being the best part of the season).

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>>15685082
I'll give it a shot since the mecha look like mechanaughts from Exteel.

Can't wait for the Chibi Spinoff to have higher quality models, less clipping, and overall better animation quality.

>>15685082
>the guys who made RWBY
This doesn't bode well. I couldn't get past the first couple of episodes of RWBY before dropping it. Just too many anime tropes thrown at me all at once for me to care.

>>15685082
>So, the guys who made RWBY

Aaaaand it's shit.

>>15685320
I'm not going to go so far as to say it's good by any measure but later seasons are definitely better than the hot garbage fire that is season one. I only watched any of them because I was watching with friends, anyway.

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>>15685082
God I FUCKING hate Rooster Teeth.

Ruby is some ripoff anime shit "oh look at us made by weebs for weebs lmaos" and guess what, it's edgy poorly animated trash. It looks like newgrounds flash shit man, worse even.

And then I look them up to see what this little team of """creatives"""" are doing and I see them chugging beer cursing and it turns out they're like a bunch of tatted up partyhard losers. Tell me again why we're supposed to give a shit about these idiots? Especially when they try to name some mecha and thr best they can do os fucking Gundam and A/Z. It's going to be another shitty mecha made by people whose perception of mecha was crafted by hollywood, garbage video games and garbage 2010s anime. Not to mention they're hiring Ruby fan artists from deviantart. I cant make this shit up

Honestly this thing is going to be an abortive mess with a shit plot and shit designs that are 100% copypaste tvtropes crap. I won't watch it and I hope you don't spam any more shitty threads about, you paid shill.

>>15685390

See, the funny thing is less their creative efforts, and more you expecting anything creative from mecha as a genre.

Everything's been covered.

>>15685397
>Everything's been covered
Not organic mecha made from dragon corpses that bore underground for minerals and fight exclusively in caves or magma pools.

>>15685406
Fuck, that sounds awesome.

>>15685397
Or more accurately, expecting anything creative from anything.

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>>15685390

>>15685432
>>15685397
See you guys. >>15685406 just had a fucking awesome idea, i would watch fifty episodes of a decently animated show based on that. But no one will do it.

Rooster mechs is just going to be some generic pseudo real robot gundam knockoffs vs aliens stuff and I'm tired of that. why cant they take fifteen seconds like >>15685406 did and at least consider a premise that hasn't been done before? There are millions of story possibilities out there. Saying it's all been done is just making excuses for at best laziness and at worst "safe" ideas chosen for maxinum marketability.

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>>15685082
>the guys who made RWBY are making
Don't care, hope they rot.

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>>15685163
I've seen amateur MMD fight sequences that blow almost all of S1's fight sequences out of the water.

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>>15685397
>Everything's been covered.
Everything except sports mecha. We only have racing and basketball-kinda. Where's the football or baseball mecha show?

>>15685406
That's very close to Escaflowne, but interesting idea nonetheless.

>>15686085
Iron Leaguer son

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>>15685139
>Isn't Mont Oum part of the RWBY team?

Not anymore, his wife killed him.

>>15686015
Someone post some RWBY webms

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>>15685082
>made by the team who made RWBY

>>15686158
People paid money for this crap. Let that sink in.

>>15686110
thank you

>>15685082
Well, RWBY is actual garbage, but I'll probably at least watch the pilot. Not expecting much though. And if it's 100% CG like RWBY I'll probably drop it regardless.

>>15686143
Pic unrelated?

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>>15685214
>Exteel

Shit... I haven't heard anybody mention that in YEARS.

>>15685142
>They almost went the same way with RvB,
Yeah, good thing all the characters hilariously killed each other at the end of season 5. Great wrap-up for a great series.

>>15686165
>people
US standards are really low and the standards of teenagers who steal their parent's credit cards are even lower than that.

>>15686003

>take ten seconds

Anon, I'm not touting this thing as a pinnacle of creativity, but if you thought stringing together those words required any thought beyond perhaps looking through metal album covers then I think you're a bit mistaken.

>>15687995
exactly, that's why it takes ten seconds. It's not a bad idea either. maybe if animation studios are so strapped for ideas that they're reusing thirty year old tropes, they need to be looking at more metal covers.

>>15685082
>Aldnoah Zero
>Psycho-Pass
>Kiznaiver

These faggots are already drawing from some of the worst for their inspiration, can't say it inspires confidence.

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This is Gray's show. That's the only thing it shares with RWBY. Also according to him it's supposed to be real robots as opposed to super.

>>15688781
>Psycho-Pass
Psycho-Pass isn't bad though, S2 was pretty mediocre, but the rest was fine

>>15687967
like is that a in joke I don't know about, or do you not know, or refuse to accept the existence of seasons 6-15?

>>15689117
Holy fuck, are there really 15 seasons of Red vs. Blue? Did people even give a crap about Halo for that long?

>>15689124
Considering they're making at least one more halo game. Yes, they do still care about Halo.

>>15689124
to be honest RvB isn't even about Halo anymore. lol

>>15689124
It stopped being good after 10.

Ehh, I'll give it a fair chance, not like it can be worse than some of the shit I've seen.

It could either be worse than or better than RWBY, which if it manages to be worse is kind of an acheivement.

Speaking of RWBY, did Volume 4 really end up being that bad?

>>15685163
well, it turned out they were secretly using MMD models

>>15689283
V4 was extremely mediocre.
It destroyed a few characters, brought in characterization randomly and really wasn't handled too well.
Yang and Juane's arcs are probably the only decemt parts of the show, but both are still pretty quality.

>>15689283
>Speaking of RWBY, did Volume 4 really end up being that bad?
It looks a whole lot better because it's not in Poser anymore, but the fight choreography sucked outside of Qrow vs Tyrian, and the general plot was basically just meandering for an entire season. It wasn't all that bad, but still pretty disappointing coming off of vol 3.

>>15685214
>Exteel
WHY DO THAT ANON
WHY OPEN THOSE WOUNDS

>>15688755

Maybe they use them because they work.

That's something to consider.

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>>15686144
say no moh

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>>15691340
In the arts, a theme rarely "works" unless it's at least partially original. Maybe copying older series and changing minor surface detail "works" from a sales perspective, but you're cucked if you think that benefits you. (Unless you really just want to rewatch the same series for twenty years). It only helps the studio by paying their bills. What you should be demanding is something that "works" creatively, and to do that you can't stick to a formula - this isn't engineering, the whole concept of a creative effort is introducing things that didn't exist before. Why would you, as a consumer, not want to see that experimentation from a company? It's only a loss to them - at worst, no one likes it and they lose money, at best they create something really really good. For you, the worst you get is a bad show that you can turn off at any time. The best you get is something enjoyable and memorable. Something that might break the stagnation and boredom on this board and in the genre. Otherwise you're guaranteed another bland "safe" show, a creative failure, an exercise in beating to death ideas that were original in 2001. Why would you want that? Would you be okay with marvel avengers still being made exactly as they are today in 2030? I would not.

When did the guys who made the shitty Red Vs Blue halo animations get known as the guys who made RWBY?

>>15685406
Would watch.

>>15688987
Fucking Kiznaiver though. Say and think what you will about Imaishi and Trigger, but Kiznaiver is just terrible. And in the interview they cite it as an example
>really strong, character-driven emotional storytelling

>>15694798
Not long after RWBY began

>>15694798
more importantly, when did red vs blue become a ten season "show" carried on Netflix? last i remember it was just mildly amusing halo videos on the internet.

>>15694953
It starte getting a more and more story elements over ten years ago.

>>15694953
It turned into a story like fifteen years ago. They were selling DVDs of it back when I was a freshman in high school.

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>>15692693
Really? Man, I know animation is expensive, but that's what people have been talking about?

>>15695644
Most of the animation is bad for other reasons like choreography and just the general look of the shitty program they're using, but those are just the highlights of when it really went full QUALITY.

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>>15692691
>>15692693
>>15692689
>"My vision for the show was to present a two-dimensional, toon-shaded look, but with all of the depth and complexity of a 3D-animated production. I wanted to be able to move the cameras and characters freely while still capturing the essence of the flat, line-drawn look of traditional anime."
>— Director Monty Oum

yeah I'm sorry but he failed. this looks like a bad online video game from 2007. I'd guess it's because none of them have the talent time or money to do 2D animation, hence why everything they've done has been 3D or god awful live action. I expect no less of course from gemlock. only this time they have an excuse to make it even shittier because 'mechs don't need to move as smoothly as people to suspend disbelief.

>>15696247

RT actually does have a 2D animation shows, but it's a simply joke show with nothing really amazing.

>>15696247
To be fair, Monty's strength was dancing and fight coreography. All of his stuff from Haloid to Dead Fantasy didn't focus on dialogue.

Also its funny how people nowadays blame Poser for the poor quality and it really didn't get that much better when they switched to Maya. It just made it a more detailed looking train wreck.

On the topic of RWBY, and the fact Blazblue has robot girls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Qw-ztFrK4

>>15698334
just saw that... literally spit out my vodka.

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>>15699287
for non /3/fags, this stuff is basicly mathematically impossible to recreate by hand, and they straightup stole the models and altered them a bit for RWBY

>>15694786

>A theme rarely works unless it's at least partially original

I highly, highly doubt that.

Do you know how many shows we get that are the same generic drivel yet still manage to get the cash flowing because they work established formulas? We get so many products that are as formulaic as they come and they rake in the dough every single time, so yes, people can 'stick to a formula'. They do it with games, cartoons, TV shows, every single thing under the sun in some way or another.

And given how Marvel just needs to keep making the exact same film over and over again to reap a guaranteed profit, doesn't matter what I think. Way it's going, provided we haven't all died in nuclear hellfire by then, Marvel movies will still be the exact same 13 years from now because their business model works. It makes them money, and to the industry, money is what matters most.

>>15694786

>at worst, no-one likes it and they lose money
>it's only a loss to them

Do you think they want to actively try to lose revenue?

So it's going to be a poorly animated, amateurishly-written mess that is more just a collection of basic cliches and tropes than an actual work that stands on its own, but it'll gain massive popularity because of name recognition re: Rooster Teeth and RWBY and nips will end up loving it because they have the shittiest taste in the world, spawning lots of doujins and merchandise and eventually leading to the main character guest starring in a crossover game and causing a massive autistic shitstorm?

>>15688840

Dude has a lion's face. Like that's not even metaphorical.

>>15699776
Let's also be fair, Marvel uses that basic formula for its movies because it's the only formula anyone's found for any superhero more powerful than Batman that doesn't lead to the movie being complete shit. Sometimes when people focus on thinking inside the box it's because the box is there for a reason.

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>>15685082
>Shittier 3d animation than the average seasonal anime
>basic as fuck plot with anime cliches done worse
>Monty is fucking dead so no crazy fighting choreography with kung fu mecha or some shit like that
>nips have shit taste and may crossover into SRW
I'll just look up the robot designs and like just that in the end.
>>15685397
I'm sure there's something. Maybe just mash up concepts.
Wuxia robot like show featuring criptid/mythos hunting and a vast array of martial arts shown by different mechas?
I got nothing outside of that.

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>>15699827
But Marvel movies are complete shit, and its not due to the superpowers. It's due to the Marvel Formula™ for Cinematic Universes, which boils down to "Get the newest, most green director, preferably straight from some TV show, make sure the reins on him are tight enough to put even the most hardcore bondage fan blush, and saddle him with some literally who writer so that the executives can make sure there's zero deviation from the script". This is why every Marvel capeshit character is the same bland quip-a-minute blackhole of suck, and why the Avengers, despite having a budget that rivals the GDP of some nations, still has sequences and scenes that wouldn't look out of place on the fucking SyFy roster.

>>15685082

This is guaranteed to get at least two $300 ThreeA figures and probably like a Figma or Neca of the pilots.

>>mfw the state of collectible toy licenses

>>15686165
Wait what?

>>15686165
People pay money for lots of stupid shit. Its still a web series you can see for free in the end.

Also I'm not defending it, but if you're going to bitch about quality at least make it reasonable.

>>15700818
he's not bitching about quality, he's bitching about the tasteless fags who bankrolled rwby

>>15699287
>>15699290
Should I mention that Monty's notorious for this? He's literally been kitbashing models for his animations ever since Dead Fantasy.

>>15700821
People bankrolled fucking Bayformers. You can't stop people from throwing money at very VERY stupid tasteless shit that somehow managed to entertain them.

>>15700825
No, but I can certainly vent about it.
Also the first Bayformers was a genuinely entertaining summer action flick, the rest are irredeemably trash though.

>>15699782
>>15699776
You don't get it. What "works" to the studio is repetitive "safe" guaranteed money makers. That is NOT what "works" from a creative perspective, from our perspective as viewers. We should let them know what we think as consumers. It would benefit them to know that people ENJOY it when they step outside the box, do something new. It's a win-win if what they think "works" is the same as what we think "works" and that's more than possible.

tl;dr since you guys can't read past sentence no1 without typing spastic contrarian replies:

bland repetitiveness does NOT need to equal sales. It does because people believe it does. make the repetitive factors consistent animation, good music, and talented VAs. not the plot, designs, and premises.

>>15700857
Big studios only care about getting high numbers and most small studios are scared that being different will isolate their work.

But I agree, maximum effort should be put into animation, music and VAs. The plot should play to their strengths as opposed to squeezing it all into a predictable premise.

>>15700718
You can't seriously look at Avengers and look at Batman v. Superman and claim the former isn't an obvious improvement over the latter in every single category.

Directors of cape movies apparently do need a tight as hell leash, because every time they get given leeway we get a Batman Returns, or a Batman and Robin, or a Spider-Man 3, or an Amazing Spider-Man 2, or a Dark Knight Rises, or an X-Men 3, or a Fant4stic.

Directors get stupid when given artistic license: if you're lucky and they happen to be talented in a way that's compatible with making a good cape movie, you'll get one good movie out of them the first time you let up on the leash, a Spider-Man 2 or a Dark Knight. You never get a second good movie out of them after that, you get a shitpile of a movie.

Marvel's gone in for having consistently okay quality instead of shitting out a lot of terrible movies that might have the occasional gem buried in there, and I don't blame them.

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>>15700881
>You can't seriously look at Avengers and look at Batman v. Superman and claim the former isn't an obvious improvement over the latter in every single category.
You're asking me to compare cow shit to horse shit, they're both equally as soulless and awful.
Zach Snyder hasn't made a good movie since 300. Spider Man 3 was due to Sony interfering with Raimi at every single step, by the way. Spiderman 1 is still hands down one of the best comic book adaptations of the 21st century, and that says a lot, considering how we've been fucking bombarded with capeshit for the last decade.

>>15700661
A western property in SRW? Due to how buttmad western companies are I doubt they would ever give licensing for-

>>15698334
Okay, maybe it's not so unlikely afterall.

I really gave RWBY a shot. I've been surprised before, so i was willing to give it an honest try. But jesus, it's just not a quality product in any field except specifically fight choreography, which really serves no purpose with such abysmal context. The characters and story feel so phoned in and the voice acting... the VOICE ACTING. I'm amazed this is as successful as it is. I don't think I can finish the second season.

>>15700891
>Those mechs look familiar. Did they steal them from somewhere?

They're like "every artist's first kind-of-okay mecha drawing"-tier designs.

>>15685114
>RvB route
What is that
I never watched rvb

>>15700990
I would describe it as a video game sitcom.

>>15698334
We live in very interesting times, you cannot deny that.