You like the mecha of 40k?

>>15683783
would buy if they had articulations or were sold in my country

I shit talk them because of the lack of skirt armour, but they're pretty fine.
kinda need a bigger sword, though, he can't even reach the floor with that blade

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>>15683787

There's always Johnny "Skips Arms Day" McGunwrists

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The Titans as a whole are hilarious, but most especially the Imperial-class. Still, I love the stupid-silly concept of a literal walking castle of death. Moreso once corrupted by Chaos.

>>15683783
They're cool. I like them because they nicely encapsulate the design philosophies of each faction: Imperial mechs are big, lumbering things with cathedrals bolted onto them, Eldar mechs by contrast are thin and lithe, and Orky Gargants are giant junk piles even bigger and more lumbering than Imperial titans.

>>15683907

>Finally, my blueprints for this Titan are complete
>Hmm... It seems to be missing something
>*looks out the window of his workshop and see's the local Imperial Cathedral rising above the city*
>Of course!

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>>15684031
They even have an entire marine complement just to protect them from boarding actions. It's so stupid-silly it falls into awesome territory.

Moreso the support/AA-heavy variant, which adds gigantic missiles to one arm and a bunch of literal AA towers.

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>>15683783
I like em
hate the Tau mecha though

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>>15684040
I mean, just look at this. The only thing that can make this even more stupid-silly awesome is modeling the Reich Bunker and Flak towers on it, and oversized V2s on the missile rails.

Or have one based on Winsor Castle and helmed by the immortal Queen Elizabeth and her corgies. For Her Majesty the Queen!

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>>15684047

Really? Those are the one's I thought /m/ would like the most.

>>15684079
this is easily the worst one

>>15684047
This.

>>15684079
Not that guy but IMO they're easily the most gross and generic looking of all of the Warhammer mecha. Bowlegs and bevels everywhere isn't my cup of tea.

>>15684047

It's just an ATST

>>15683783
The Eldar titans are pretty sweet.

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>>15684079
>>15684084
I'm pretty sure that's actually meant to be a metal gear. Like one of the original ones

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>>15684079
>>15684084
>>15684089
>People shitting on a mech design that's actually plausible.

>>15684040
Not a marine complement but a cyber enhanced tech zealots known as skitarii. Its nitpicking but saying marine in 40k can be misleading to newbies.

>>15684468
This is 40k, we don't want plausible. We want over the top grimdark.

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>>15684079
>Those are the one's I thought /m/ would like the most.

They only appeal to people who know very little about giant robots in general. Most people here don't really like them, neither do Asians or Japanese.

To put it on simpler terms, it's very much like Mechwarrior/Battletech. If you're only into it, the robots look amazing (they absolutely don't) because even with all their problems, the concept of a giant robot is too amazing to pass up.
But then you get into the genre and you'll see them for the freaks they are, since pretty much everything else also does gaint robots, but does them much better.

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Yes

>>15684573
Exactly this. Battletech nerds tend to hate on anime and even on Japanese Battletech, and I suspect that they're insecure because they know their designs are inferior. All they need to do is sit down and watch some Madox or some Votoms or something and their world would be opened up.

I like battletech, but you don't need to use their bad designs. Just print pictures of different mechs and let your opponent know what's what.

>>15683783
I love them. The titans, the knights, the dreadnaughts, the kans and gargants, the eldar wraiths, the war walkers, the sentinels, yes even the dreadknights are cool. Ridiculous and over-the-top, but cool. Not all of them are good per se but I love them for following per-faction design cues

>>15683787
It's for cutting other robits and/or city walls.

>>15684468
>frogposting
>being a realismfag
>being this new
>itty bitty ankles that literally need high heel tier support to stand
>knees AND ankles completely exposed in firing position
>no arms despite topheavy build; feet similarly are still more akin to hooves despite plantigrade feet providing more support and stability.
>Anti-infantry gun mounted asymmetrically despite it providing no real advantages and arguably making targeting to the right more difficult
>>plausible

You've wrung out this (you) well, congratulations. Also >>15684478
In the end it just plain isn't cool to me.

>>15684079 >>15684084 >>15684089 >>15684573


>>All missiles
>>tiny head
>>fat torso
>>gun/missile arms
>>extra supports on huge feet

It's like /m/'s perfect robot to be honest.

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>>15686255
>being this much of a newfag

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>>15686533
I rather like RT dreadnoughts.

>>15684079
>no melee weapon
What a faggy mech,real men use melee.

>>15686269
Does anyone have the other "/m/'s ideal mecha" picture? It had the Turn-A's head wearing a pimp hat and all kinds of ridiculous weapons, like Mazinger's chestplate on an arm for a "Breast Fire Gun".

>>15685818
>Exactly this. Battletech nerds tend to hate on anime and even on Japanese Battletech,

Get a load of this guy. Even the people over in the BTgeneral are happy every time somebody sits down and comes up with a less awful take on an official design. People get the attachment players feel to stat blocks that served them well mixed up with whatever feeling they have about the terrible official art for some reason.

Most of them do watch robot cartoons as well.

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>>15684468
Greenskin filth.

>>15686617

He's confusing them with the mechwarrior fanboys. The ones who got into BT because of the Mechwaarior sim games.

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>>15686617
/btg/ kind of... I mean, there's still like a 50/50 split between those who do and those who don't, with namefags on each side.

The overall fanbase is extremely, almost religiously, robot-averse, though. It gets to the point where they attacked fan animators and artists over any anime influence they could see, even if that is pretty limited in scope considering their favorite artist, FD, does nothing but Gundamify their robots and they sing praise to him, unknowingly.

Don't get me wrong, I like the setting and recognize that is has some neat elements to it but the fanbase is far over the cancer line, somewhere in the ebola and real chickenpox territory.

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>>15684079
I like their supremecy armors enough. Actually, I kinda like how the Tau doctrine are based more around pragmatic modern military shit to contrast the over the top crazy shit of the other factions (guard don't really count, since the vast majority of them seem to be based around WW1 or WW2 soviet style human wave/bayonet charge tactics). I can understand why a lot of people hate them though. Chaos has the most awesomely absurd Titans though (dem Daemon Machines).

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>>15683907
You mean stupid-awesome!

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>>15688175
You want more skulls with your daemon machine?

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>>15688209
Prefer the one with legs, actually.

>>15685831
but they can barely reach the middle of their own chests with that

>>15688209

Christ, do I even want to ask how much it costs?

>>15688797
I looked it up on the Games Workshop website, after setting my country to US it said 160 dollars. Ouch...

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Dreadnoughts are amazing things

>>15689306
actually , dreadnought are what got me into w40k, with how much fucking they reminded me the e-frames from Exosquad, baack in 2001

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>>15684047

Gue'La having plebeian taste as usual.

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>>15691565
Pretty much. I like them even more once I realized they aren't usual mechs. Literally death on two legs

>>15683783

>Ad Mech mechs and Titan's in general
Yes.

>Space marine mechs
Yes.

>Imperial Mechs
Garbage chicken walkers, though they have some bitching tanks. Mostly no though.

>Tau
Their mechs are pretty weeaboo try hard, but I still like them.

>Orkz
Ugly as sin, but I realize that is part of the joke. Orkz throw random shit together and it workz some how. Still find the Gargantz designs hideous compared to titans.

>Necrons
Why don't they have giant robots? Why? But yeah, I like the designs.

>Eldar
I'm committing blasphemy here, but I think their mechs are too skinny looking and are hideous.

>>15691899
as an eldar mainer , i admit , some desings are quite a miss from the main style of wriathbone architecture blended with stuff that is supposed to be the eldar tech.

the wraithknight is a convoluted mess of stuff compared to the titans, it should be sleeker to fit properly in eldar aesthethics...

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>>15691899
Necrons prefer mobile, monolithic structures bristling with energy weapons. I imagine if they did, though, it would look something like this.

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The translation of 40k mecha from lore into the tabletop game really annoys me. For starters, the scale of vehicles in tabletop have always been fucked up, the classic example being that there's no way ten space marines fit into a rhino transport. For the past many years, though, I feel that GW has exasperated the scale problem by inserting more and more gargantuan mecha into the game, from the new hotness that is the Imperial Knight to the Warlord Titan. Of course, these models can't be too big as they'd inflate the price and become harder to manage on the table, so they're shrunk down in size compared to how they're depicted and described from the various background material and stories. Warlord Titan heads being big enough to have a Star Trek-style bridge in them? Well not according to the Forgeworld model with the head being a tight fit for three, and not much room in the body for a maintenance crew.

As nice as the scale of Primaris Marines are in relation to other race's infantry, they also make the scale problem with vehicles even worse.

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>>15695590
You are absolutely missing the point if you even remotely care about stuff like scale, consistency, lore and stuff of that nature.

>>15697985
There is dakka here, but, is it enough?

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>>15698000
There can only ever be "almost" but never "enough".

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>>15688175
>since the vast majority of them seem to be based around WW1 or WW2 soviet style human wave/bayonet charge tactics). I can understand why a lot of people hate them though.
The guard needs more prominent fluff, everyone thinks they're like this, granted some are but every regiment is different, some look like our modern troops, some are an army of cavemen with lasguns and very basic knowledge of how to use them, some are like literal knights and others are like napoleonic infantry but they're clothes are like carapace armor and their muskets are actually gauss rifles.

>>15698834
Yeah, the Imperial Guard is very diverse. The Death Korps of Krieg are like WWI Germans, I think the Vostroyans are like classic Russians, and the Catachan jungle guys are straight from Rambo/Vasquez from Aliens. They even had a character named "Sly Marbo" back in the 90s, I think, an obvious reference to "Sly" stallone and Rambo.

>>15698834
The fluff always makes it sound retardedly grim. Like how they recycle wounded guardsmen into corpse starch rather then medically treat them (unless they're a high enough rank). Oh, lose a finger heroically holding off the enemy, too bad Private Nobody, you're taking a dive in the food processor.

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>>15698860
Usually they have to be hurt worse than that, and it depends on the regiment.

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>>15698842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMNWAJiz5Y

40k model kits made by Bandai when? The Games Workshop models are ones of the shittiest and most overpriced models I've ever built.

>>15698919
I would like some action figures. Action figures would be great.

>>15698919
I'd be happy with Titan models; specifically the Imperator/Warmonger, and the smaller Warlord. Even if the Imperator is along the size of larger 1/60 or 1/48 Gundam kits, while the Warlord either same or a size smaller (1/60 or 1/100).

At any rate, are there any 40k video games where one can actually control a Titan, even just for one or two missions like RA3's Shogun Executioner?

>>15699014
Space marine is the only one that comes close and you just fight on the chasis of it.

>>15699014
I think you could command Titans in the old Final Liberation game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Liberation:_Warhammer_Epic_40,000

>>15697985
how old is this?

>>15699250
It's pre-/tg/ /b/, so 2006 at the latest.

Why did /b/ and /tg/ have to die? What did they ever do to you, moot-sama?

ROWBOAT GIRLYMAN IS ALIIIIIIVE

>>15699317
Old 40k /b/ came up with pretty great stuff, like the furfag planet exterminatus comic. I never understood why they got chased off /m/ to /b/ back in the day.

>>15699347
Because they were a huge autistic horde. Definitely one of the best, but they took over a slow board like /m/.
And then once /b/ died too they went to /v/, where they caused problems as well, until /tg/ was created.

>>15699366
>until /tg/ was created.
Then thy created one of the best boards on this site before moderation struck them and turned /tg/ into just another excrement that are tabletop forums.

>>15683783
Absolutely love it. Especially the Imperium's Titan, the Tau's Power Armor.

Not a fan of Eldar's Wraithbone thingy thought, too skinny and the Ork is just plain ugly.

Watching the over the top shit like Imperator titan makes me wish there is an anime like Chrome Shelled Regios but replaces the school with the 60m tall titan and people fighting in Powered Armor and small size Mecha.

>>15699386
>Watching the over the top shit like Imperator titan

I mean, the biggest titans are "just" Gunbuster sized. Just think of stuff like the Macross ships, which are 1km in height and even house an entire city in the original.

The bigger things are, the less that size gets communicated well enough. It's why Sunrise made ATs in VOTOMS so small... sure, they're smaller but at least you can actually portray their size accurately whereas the stuff happening on the inside and outside of the original Macross are largely dissociated.

>>15684040
I just realized; are those supposed to be naked women between the columns on the Imperator's shoulders? Is it a strip club fest for the Emperor? Or are they like naked female Greek statues installed between the pillars for art purposes (like the rest of the castle design)?

>>15699647
Yeah, they are naked virgins meant to be sacrificed in each party to please the machine spirit.

>>15683783
Yes. Always have. I've adored Titans and such since I first saw them back in 95. Still play Epic to this day using them.

>>15685818
What? I got into Battletech because I liked giant robots and it in turn sparked my love for robot anime. BT players are huge robot nerds most of the time. You're confusing BT grognards with MW players.

>>15695590
Play Epic. Sorts out your problems. How you get the miniatures though is up to you.

>>15699206
You could towards the end game after you captured the Titan facility. Vortex missiles everyday.

>>15699653
That's a lewd machine spirit. I wonder if some of them are into robo-tentacle or machine sex play. After all, many of the Titans' Machine Spirits have eccentricities.

And for the poor (or lucky) Princeps who witnesses such with each link.

>>15684079
Metal... Gear?!

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A completely accurate to scale Titan on the tabletop

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>>15700271
Orks do it better

>>15684040
>Custodes
Is a titan really necesary that close to the palace of Holy Terra?

>>15698000
>At the point in time when bullets can pass through the interdimensional walls. When firepower takes up the entirety and eternity of space and time, all beings stuck in a neverending life and death cycle as bullets recover and destroy their bodies in quick succession. No one is able to think about anything but the sheer force of the bullets rapidly flying literally everywhere in the materium turning the warp itself into nothing but a sea of semi-automatic weaponry.. Then there will be enough dakka. Or, at least almost. ~ The God Emperor of Mankind

>>15700366
This sounds like some kind of Elemental Plane of Dakka.

>>15700361
Two guard the doors to the Emperor's throne room.

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>>15700271

IG Sentinel or Killa Kan modded to resemble a Scopedog when?

Killa Kanz were always my favorite ork units in 40K. Just big metal cans with arms and legs and choppy bits and dakka crudely welded to them.

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>>15700347
>>15700390
orks is best
imperium of man close second though

>>15700384

Considering how many defenses Terra itself has, and that the Custodes are to Space Marines what Space Marines are to Guardsmen, again is that necesary?

>>15700711
You don't muck about with the defences for the most important corpse to the entire human race.

>>15700757
>spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEGo41443iI

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>>15700347
>>15700395

>>15684084
the only reason it doesnt have treads is because the Tau dont believe in them
It's a fire support platform

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Knight Titans are surprisingly nimble for how turtly they look.

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Ork mecha have been my favorites outta 40k, with Eldar and Imperium following. I liked older Ork mecha especially; they had a blockiness (or going back further roundness) to them I really enjoyed the modern machines just don't have.

>>15700711
"Is that necessary" is a question you should never ask about the 40k universe.

>>15700711
Because if you plan on killing the most important corpse in the galaxy then you better plan on using your entire race for the job and even then you only have a less than a 1% chance of victory.

>>15683787
This. W40k probably has the most interesting machines of any western franchise. The only thing stopping me from picking them up is their ridiculous price and maybe their lack of articulation, but that's not even a very big deal. I'd be all over them if they were 65% cheaper.

>>15684079
With TAU mecha, it's as if I like the idea of them more than the way they actually are. I mean, they're essentially Gundam+Armored Core light with the Tau philosophy behind them, which should be cool, but the actual designs always end up looking a little bland and uninteresting. The Riptides are cool, and the XV-88- which is technically a suit, but is large enough to look like a mech- are cool, but the rest are boring and forgettable. The battlesuits themselves are very cool, and so are the vehicles, but for the most part, the mecha have been surprisingly underwhelming.

>>15697855
More like AGP-SPOOK. Also who would in a battle to the death? Tau Drone, Servitor or Victory Haro?

>>15700711
Horus came pretty close to breaching it, as did that huge super ork whose name I can't quite remember.

>>15702492
The Beast.

>>15699347
No he isn't. He's deader than dogshit. Primaris Marines are a hoax. Cawl is a fraud.

++HOPE IS THE FIRST STEP ON THE ROAD TO DISAPPOINTMENT++

>>15702492
The Beast, who Vulkan killed

>>15702492
The CSM never managed to penetrate Terra even when they were half the Imperium's Space Marines. The Beast had a WAAAGH that contained their entire species.

>>15702492

The Beast was actually 6 different warbosses that operated under the same name to make everyone think it was all the same person.

>>15702899
Perturabo did actually penetrate the walls, then promptly lost interest as all he wanted to do was to stick it to Dorn.

>>15702899
This is a society that practices ritualistic anointing and prayer of any and all tools and devices because there's an incredibly remote chance that there's a scrap of daemon or, Emperor forbid, angry AI in them. Overdefensiveness is SOP.

Plus, maybe Mars wanted someone close to the Omnissiah as honour guard. They do have rather a lot of pull.

>>15702993
>HEY ROGAL! ROOOOOOGAAAAAAL!

Perturabo is the best autist.

https://youtu.be/0Vh_N8CpcL0?t=16m30s

>>15702999
>Plus, maybe Mars wanted someone close to the Omnissiah as honour guard.
Assuming you're running on the theory that the Omnissiah is Emps and not the Void Dragon, that's literally been the Custodes only job for the past 9000 years.

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>>15703031

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>>15703098
I'm running on the theory that at least some part of the AdMech higher ups think that, or wish to look like they do. We know politics doesn't stop just because you replaced your pancreas with delicious gears.

>>15700336

According to John Blanche, an Emperor Titan would be well over 20 ft tall in 40K scale.

That model isn't close to that height.

>>15699347
>>15699366
As I recall, we used to have a lot of friction between 40k fans and everyone else on /m/ back in the day. When I first came here...2006, early 2007, I think, this was back when I was in college--40k fans would make fun of Japanese mecha aesthetics, and in response Gundam fans would poke fun of "miniatyres." There was even a copypasta going around about how "40k was here to stay" that got some traction back then.

As a result of all this, at least partially, /tg/ was created and it seems to have solved most of the problems. Now that 40k has a dedicated home, 40k fans seem much more chill, and in return most of us are more than happy to discuss its mecha and power armor as we are for anything else.

>>15703217

Pretty sure for years even after /tg/ was propped up there was still some hate for 40k around here.

>>15703880
Yeah, probably. Old habits are hard to break and all that. But I think the problem lessened after /tg/ was made to some extent, and then gradually wilted away after that.

>>15703880
>40k belongs on /y/
for example was spammed for years after /tg/ was formed, that said I do agree with Gunlord that it faded after a while.

>>15703894
>>15703926
I think there's just very few of us left from those days.

>>15684079
>That design
I though Tau never faced Abbadon

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>>15704748

They now have a good reason to.

>>15702888
>He hasn't read past Vulkan "killing" the Beast
Vulkan failed. The Beast he fought was a Deathskull and it shows up in the next book as being still alive. Koorland kills it, only to meet the Goff>>15702900 Beast and be murdered by it.

>>15702900
>Good luck killing me, I'm behind seven proxies!

>>15705254
>Bakka

>>15702900
The Beast is Keyser Soze?

>>15703102
>Even I don't know how to get into this one!

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メックとタイタンの戦いは似てるようで違うんだが・・・・

>>15683783
As a fa/tg/uy, I gotta say, the recent price gouging that GW has been doing is absolutely brutal to the development of a newer, younger generation of buyers and players.

Like, I get that you gotta make money and all, but c'mon...They're not even that high quality...Most of the ones you see on the blogs have all been "instagramified" for the camera with dozens of hours of hard work and subtle modifications. But then again, this isn't exactly breaking news, so take it for what it's worth.

Fug the po-leece. I'd download a car, a pizza, AND a figurine, and I'd get away with all of it too.

>>15705758

The best part? It's a major naval base in its respective Segmentum.

>>15706151
The poor navy is neglected.

>>15703217
>>15703962
>>15703926
>>15703894
>>15703894
>>15703880

Didn't the 40k fans "repel" a furry raid on /b/ back in 2007?

>>15708339
The two groups counterspamming each other was SOP for a while around then, IIRC, with 40k fans being substantially better at it. Not sure I remember a notable raid, but records from that era are spotty at best.

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>>15708420
Indeed.

>>15708339
>>15708420
This sounds like the single-most autistic internet event of the last decade. It must have been something to behold.

>>15706074
The best thing about working for GW in the 90s was hearing crybabies like you tell us the business was dying every month.

I lie, the best thing was the 50% staff discount.

>>15709356
It was pretty harmless, to be honest. Mostly someone posting some furries followed by large amounts of space marines, an occasional "yiff in hell", and that one guy saging in all fields and directing people to /y/. Modern shitposting's much more annoying.

>>15709356
Well, furries were annoying disgusting freaks and /tg/ are shameless nerdy autists, so it can't be helped.

>>15702424
You can get articulation on most models if you put them together properly. Just not in the legs obviously.

>>15709437
Unfortunately in 2008/9 when rubyquest happened there was a stealth furry infiltration of /tg/ resulting from that quest being crossposted by the tripfag on a furry imageboard. The massive influx of furries into /tg/ resulted in an perceptible dark age.

Threads about anthropomorphic animal races and blatantly furry worldbuilding topics abounded, as did gay camwhore threads (yes fucking really). It was a nightmare.

>>15710015
I had no idea furries go that uppity once upon a time. Back then, I was still consumed with Gundam 00 and barely looked beyond /m/. In light of this however, it seems that the fa/tg/uys' anger toward the furry scum was completely righteous and justified.

The drawings that came out of those threads back then were legendary.

>>15709968
But the price, though, the price. I have no inestment in minifigs, so I'm not bitter, but every time, every single time I notice a cool kit, I inevitably shirk away when Isee the price. I was so close to picking up a dreadnought or Tau ship, but then the price is just so forbidding!

>>15710088
It's always righteous hatred, when it comes to furries. They're a plague, and even individual furfags are autistic enough to seriously disrupt any board.

>>15710092
GW minis in particular are seriously overpriced. Forgeworld is usually better except in the case of Knights and Titans which can cost as much as £900.

>>15710106
To be fair, those things are fucking massive. Like holy shit, the Warlord.

>>15710272
None of the Titans actually come with weapons, you've got to buy those separately.

>>15710296
And the head.

>>15710361
Yeah, with some Gargants you've got to buy the head. I remember when they'd sell the Warhounds, arms and all.

>>15710424
>Yeah, with some Gargants
If only they did those, but noooooo, it's all about the Space Marines and the Admech.

40k has some of my favorite mecha. The idea of two 200 meter tall metal monsters blaring their horns and circling each other like massive steel predators while their pilots are possessed by the animal spirit of the machine and the ghosts of its previous pilots; is just awesome.

>>15711600
Is that supposed to be a Man of Iron?

>>15688175
>Actually, I kinda like how the Tau doctrine are based more around pragmatic modern military shit to contrast the over the top crazy shit of the other factions

At that point why not just play a generic scifi game? Liking Tau for not being typical 40k is like wanting to put panzers in a napoleonics game because muskets and close order are lame and ineffective.

>>15711731
Yes

>>15688175

THEY KNOW NO HONOR
https://youtu.be/6-9XSiNfgk0?t=10m49s

>>15712464
He could play Eldar, but they're kinda faggy. The Imperial factions are boneheaded though.

>Let's pull our forces from this sector, leaving it open to the nearby Orks to attack a planet who's atmosphere is toxic to human life because there's some pissant xenos there.
>Let's then send billions of guardsmen down onto the planet, but oops, we forgot our respirators so they all die.
>Let's keep doing this because orders are orders
>A hundred years and a trillions gaurdsmen's lives later, the respirators finally arrive.
>OK, we've capped the planet, oh what's that, looks like the Inquisition is here.
>Now they're doing an exterminatus on the planet while our men are still on it.
>Later, it's found that it was all a big mix up and they were meant to attack another planet, not to mention the Orks have occupied the sector that all the forces were pulled from.

That's an exaggerated case, but I remember there being another, smaller one where the Imperium diverted Space Marine shock troops in extremely rare armor, even by Space Marine standards, from a strategically important battle to take out an enemy propaganda station run by a dozen unarmed xenos, then annihilating it from orbit while the shocktroops are still inside.

I know it's meant to be grimdark to the point of comedy, but I can sympathize with people who don't like roleplaying imbeciles and actually want to play a faction that strategizes instead of screaming about how anything except a direct frontal bayonet assault is a cowardly heresy.

>>15712583
>anything except a direct frontal bayonet assault is a cowardly heresy.

1- Think before negotiating: If you fire at them with everything you have, could you remove the need to negotiate?

2- If negotiation is a necessity, think while doing so: what is the best way to cleave the enemy ambassadors in twain?

3- If all else fails, fighting is always the answer.

4- If fighting fails, you are not fighting hard enough.

5- If you are not fighting hard enough, fight louder.

6- The best approach is always from the front.

7- If the enemy has left their flanks open, feint and then attack from the front.

8- If the front is heavily defended, they are expecting a flank attack. Attack from the front.

9- If their flanks and front is both heavily defended but they are vulnerable to an aerial strike, distract them with aerial bombardment and then attack from the front.

10- If attacking from the front does not work, you are not fighting hard enough. See point 5.

11- If attacking from the front is still not working, you're obviously not attacking their front! See point 6

12- If there is no possibility for victory, attack from the front as furiously and loudly as possible. Remember, the greater the defeat, the greater the moral victory.

13- The more blood your armor is covered with at the end of a battle, the happier the Emperor will be.

14 - If none of these work, begin exterminatus, and blow the fuck out of the planet. If this doesn't work, you are not doing it right. In this case, the best option is to fall back. Fall back and re-group. And attack from the front again. Point 6 applies as well.

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>>15712592
I would've put it in fewer words

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>>15702436

I was kind of expecting the larger Tau mecha to be like Mobile Armors like Apsalus.

>>15712583
>to the point of comedy

People always say this but it's only been comedic back in the Rogue Trader days. 40k has been 100% serious in its writing for years.

>>15712776
those would be necrons

>>15712583
>anything except a direct frontal bayonet assault is a cowardly heresy.

That's just a meme.

>>15712779
depends , i remember an ork tale of a warlord leading a raid into some near immaterium region or some bullshit like that , they get trapped in som sort of time warp thingy, and they end up right behind their own warfleet .
The ork warlord being so smart and greedy, order them to engage their time dopplegangers cuz he reasoned that if he got to kill his other self , he could loot his pistol and dual wield his most favorite dakka evah

>>15712757
Tau are weak and cowardly. Real men do not have to use strategy or think. Those are the tools of the doubter and the heretic, for all you need is belief. It does not matter what you do, for the Emperor shall judge whether you are worthy of victory, not any grand stratagem. Planning shows a lack of faith in the Emperor's hands.

Thought for the day: A mind filled with belief has no room for thought.

>>15691899

I think Orks have a more practical design of Titan than their opponents to a certain degree, as odd as it is to say such.

I think it's impossible to entangle a Gargant's legs and topple it as you could an Imperial, Eldar or Chaos Titan.

I think the Orks even had a weapon for just that in Titanicus that didn't work on their machines.

>>15688175
I think there are a couple Space Marine chapters which are relatively pragmatic. The Raven Guard are known for being sneaky and stealthy, and the Raptors are the same, IIRC.

>>15713577
The Cacharodons are so nifty. I liked Space Samoans in the Ender's Game books and I like them even more as Spess Mehreens.

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>>15712779
>40k has been 100% serious in its writing for years.

You'd have to be an Aspie to consider anything Ork related, Necron related, Imperial Guard related, Draigo related and so on not tongue in cheek.
Then again, you're a 40k fan on 4chan so I shouldn't be too mean to you, autism awareness and all.

>>15713909
GW has definitely been having a lot of fun with 40k recently. They even have the whole "Regimental Standard" thing which is both advertisement for their latest models/fluff advances and poking fun at the Guard (Perkins, please report for "correction").

>>15712797

That's Tuska Daemon-Killa, the only warboss that is directly fighting Chaos, having led a WAAAGH! into the Eye of Terror because he knew where da best fightin woz. Thankfully, Orks don't run on normal lines of thinking so the Warp didn't make their heads explode. He died killing a Daemon Prince in battle and the WAAAGH! devastated dozens of worlds in the Warp before losing steam, and Orks being Orks the Chaos are still fighting infestation on those worlds.

Also, Khorne thought Tuska was so amazing for the sheer balls of what he did, that he resurrected him and his army so that they could die every day in battle against Khorne's armies. Tuska is ok with this.

>>15713909
>You'd have to be an Aspie

I am, but I make a distinction between setting background material and the official story books.

>>15713913
He didn't kill the Blood Prince, he crushed his balls with his power klaw as a final act of defiance. Though he probably wished he did just die in that instance.

>>15712757
ffffffFFUUUUUUUUUUUCK SNEAKING!

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>>15700771

>>15712757
*inhales*

NEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDD!!!!!!!

>>15715100
What's this about auto-gifting from other people's reliquaery? Is Kitten secretly a Blood Raven?

>>15719036
The Primaris dread arms look so flimsy.

>>15719036
i´m sorry but i dont like its proportions.
id rather have a normal dreadnought with a bigger coffin than this beer-bellied robocop-2 knock-off

>>15719206
>id rather have a normal dreadnought with a bigger coffin than this beer-bellied robocop-2 knock-off

The normal Dreadnaught is also a beer-bellied knock off of a robot from a famous sci-fi movie.

>>15719206
The front armor does open. It does wonders for the design.

>>15719624
the standar dreadnought had a uniqueness, like an angry little death mailbox.
with its stubby legs and boxy arms it kinda had its own flavour , the primaris shits all over that

>>15724338
God damn, early GW stuff looked so weird. Some of it is kinda cool though.

>>15719036
I have to say that I find the existance of Primaris dreadnought silly in a way

Dradnoughts are suppose to be the last way ,to somehow, save the life of a dying space marine that is too damaged for any medical procedure to save him, these are basically life support sytem using a mecha as armed wheelchair, so a space marine can still fight.

Primaris marines are suppose to be the new guys, just out of the test tube, withouth any real combat expirience as far a space marine can allow it, and they already have Dreadnoughts.

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>>15684040
What a handsome machine

>>15724358
Don't quote me on this, but I read on 1d4chan that isn't quite the case, and a number of Primaris marines are veterans pulled out of stasis as well as upgraded normal Marines.

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>>15724358
>Primaris marines are suppose to be the new guys, just out of the test tube, withouth any real combat expirience as far a space marine can allow it, and they already have Dreadnoughts.
They were thrown into the front lines during the Ultima crusade and then dispersed among existing chapters, my guess is the had the dreads but no pilots, but I'm certain the crusade changed that.

Also 8th edition best edition with Kroot having rules again and the Black Templars back at crusade strength.

>>15724358
It's been a hundred years since they were introduced in time line.

>>15725457
Plus you should build some dreads beforehand just in case.

>>15721602
that looks way cooler than the primaris sized dread...

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>>15726259
It's the proportions I think. Outside of good old Chuck, most Imperial Dreadnoughts look like your fat uncle.

Could I 3D print Warhammer figurines? That sounds more cost effective in the long run.

>>15727975
You mean 3d printing Game Workshop figurines?

You "can", in the same sense that you "can" torrent an anime series.

It's not legal, but it's not often enforced by the government.

>>15727978
That sounds awesome.

>>15727985
Be warned Games Workshop is not to be trifled with lightly, they and Hasbro are known to go to extreme lengths to maintain intellectual property.

>>15727985
>>15728750
Not to mention you'd probably have to sand and smooth out the finished "prints" to make them look any good.

>>15727978
It's perfectly legal to make GW miniatures.

It's not legal to sell them.

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>>15683907
>>15684040
And yet in the Horus Heresy there was an even bigger pattern of Titan, the Apocalypse Class. I can only imagine how fuckhueg big it must have been.

>>15688175
I like how the Tau'Nar is the Tau going full Pacific Rim, and making a monster to fight monsters.

Whenever I see one this starts playing in my head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH_6iFYiryY

>>15712776
Technically that would be the Moray and Manta.

>>15709356
The Fursecution was more fun than the Great Pirate Ninja War, but it was still just two groups spamming images at each other. The WH40K guys were actually making and editing image macros for the occasion, while the furries mostly just spammed porn.

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http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Ordo_Sinister

There's plenty of cool stuff there.

One of the things I'd love to see would be an even smaller range of miniatures, say 2mm or 3mm scale with the focus being on the Titans themselves. A more Epic Epic, if you will.

>>15686533
3.50 each.
/cry

>>15724338
Definitely not ed209 from robocop.
Nope
Not at all

>>15695590
Titanicus is such a good book.

>>15732973
>Definitely not ed209 from robocop.

Pal, almost everything in 40k is stolen from somewhere else. Blatantly at that.
it comes from an age when Disney hadn't quite showed his old limp dick into the EU yet so as British, they could copy stuff to their heart's content.

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Friendly reminder that Chaos is a religion of peace, and is to be trusted. Please accept us as the good people that we are

>>15732965
Man don't fucking remind me

>>15734130
That's a picture of a Loyalist, Anon.

Specifically a Chaplain of the Salamanders seconded to the Deathwatch.

'Bout as far from Chaos Marine as you can get without being a Grey Knight or a Custodian.

>>15683783

I find I'm much more interested in the mecha in the lore than the actual models.

Though, I will admit, this might be changing if they can add some of the cooler ideas into the Cult Mechanicus codex next edition.

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>>15724991
that's a fucking Madcat

>>15736177
I assume you've read Titanicus. If not, you should read Titanicus. There's even skitarii in it.

>>15736170
That's another thing I love about 40k.

The figure in that picture is the closest thing to a benevolent humanist good guy in the 41st millenium.

>>15736170
This. I mean, if the Salamanders insignia and colors didn't tip him off, you'd think all the eagles and inquisition symbols would be a dead giveaway. Not to mention the storm bolter, which IIRC chaos don't have. Or at least they didn't have them a few editions ago; is that still the case?

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>>15737859
Far as I know they still don't.

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>>15736177
Or maybe Titanicus will be up your alley when it's released.

>>15736170
>without being a Grey Knight

I don't know, there was that one time the Grey Knights slaughtered the SoB and painted themselves in their blood in preparation for fighting a daemon.

>>15738014
Didn't 7th ED partially retcon that Ward abomination?

>>15713577
Is that the new World of Warcraft plate tier?

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>>15738012

What's this? An entire codex for the Titans?

>>15739186
It's a revival of the Adeptus Titanicus game. You know, the original copy of Battletech that ended up spawning Epic and through it, modern Wh40k.

It's a completely different game, though. Much like Space Hulk, Gorkamorka or Epic.

How does the Imperium even function?

>>15739279

Poorly

Dozens of worlds are lost every year, but when you're Imperium is made of literally millions of planets, you hardly notice.

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>>15739279
It doesn't, that's what the comedy is all about.
It's just like Mr. Bean. The guy is incapable of doing the most basic things, but it's funny seeing him fuck up so much.

It's the same with Imperium. British and their slightly weird sense of humor and all.

>>15738590
I'm sorry I have no idea what you just said.

>>15739279
Too big to fail. And yet is failing.

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>>15736177

I would have agreed with you before the Primaris models were released

>>15739279

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEGo41443iI

>>15739222
Sheeeeeeeit, they're making a dedicated Titans game? Like, boardgame with models and stuff, like oldschool Epic? Sweet.

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>>15739901
Why can't Battlefleet Gothic come back?

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>>15739901
Yes, and it's coming soon. Here's one of the test models.

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>>15740785
>tfw I'll be able to assemble and paint titans without blowing a grand
Epic was way too small, but that looks perfect.

>>15739279
it's not as bad as it looks. for every planet consumed by war, there's one completely untouched by it, for every crippling defeat the IG suffers, there's an easy victory. it's just that peace makes for bad stories

>>15739279
Dividing rule by segmentum, sector, sub-sector, system and planet.

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I love goofy ork shit.

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>>15740800
8mm Scale. Here's the actual quick-reference pages.

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>>15740956

>>15740956
>>15741013
>>15740785
Sweet! I looked it up and it seems it's Horus Heresy era, but I hope they expand to other settings and Titans too. Those Tyranid bio-titans were scary!

>>15740818
This. The Imperium has about a million inhabited planets - as many as there are Space Marines. In order for Space Marines to matter at all, there can't be war everywhere.

>>15740818
I'm pretty sure current events have seen even the peaceful worlds affected by war even if its just increased production output.

>>15740655
Well GW went and set up a Specialist Games division and they're working on new Necromunda and Gorkamorka, last I heard. I'd say it's possible, leaning towards probable, that BFG will make a come back eventually.

The Imperial Navy rules the stars, brother voidsman.

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>>15740655
Supposedly it's in the works, earliest estimate for news/leaks is next spring.

>>15740956
>8mm

Too small for 10mm, too big for 6mm well played, GW.

Well played.

>>15744261
Titan scales were all over the place anyway. I bet they'll look just fine up against 6mm.

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Nobody has posted any Crisis Suits?..

XV8s are awesome.

>>15686533
This is how acessible the models used to be? I thought they always costed an arm and a leg! Is GW actively trying to kill the tabletop part of the franchise?

If they cost this much now, I wouldn't care if they didn't have articulation, I'd still buy a handful of these little guys just to have fun painting and customising them!

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>>15745347
This is a real Contemptor with a Shield.

>>15732965
>>15736166
>>15745465
Shiit, they were pretty cheap back then. Looking at GW's website, a Redemptor dreadnought costs 40 pounds:

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marines-Primaris-Redemptor-Dreadnought

Even accounting for inflation, those little Rogue Trader dreads were pretty cheap. 3.50 pounds in...1988 or so would be like 8 or 10 pounds today, right? That said, the Redemptor is much bigger and also comes with all of its various parts, whereas for the old dreadnoughts, the ad says you have to buy each weapon on its own.

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>>15739301
>>15724338
>>15724355

I liked the various types you could make with that expansion.

>>15747545
I'm still kind of disappointed nothing seems to have come of that.

Am I the only one who actually like Tau mecha suits? THey look great, all except for the itty bitty chicken feet.

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>>15700347

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I wish Forge world had stuck with the Epic version for the Eldar titans, they look so much better in my opinion.

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Unf~

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>>15750988
Those comics were cool as fuck.

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Delicous Here-tek

>>15683886
http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/warjacks

seems like the whole iron kingdoms skips leg day.

>>15705254
Where is Medusa? Home of the Iron Hands!

>>15751018
I fucking love Regimental Standard

>>15748845
I've never had a problem with them. I always thought they look nice.

>>15705254
Okay it's been ages since I paid attention to anything 40k related, so forgive me for this but, holy shit who fucked up this time? There aren't enough Eldar left to make this kind of fuckup, was it the Orks? IS THAT CADIA -IN- THE EYE OF TERROR? What the fuck happened?

>>15752813
And to top all that off, Rowboat's back.

>>15752813

The main bit (for me, at least) is that Cadia was destroyed for real this time, and along with it, the Necron warp-nulling devices holding the Eye of Terror back. Also:

>trusting the Dark Eldar
>Creed getting collected by a certain Necron leader

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>>15752813

>>15752813
Old armless and the cycloptic wonder happened.
Also I think there was a disaster on an Eldar craft world.

>>15683783

Can the Knights fight Titans?

>>15755379
Yup, a lance of knights once brought down an Emperor-class titan.

>>15755379
A dedicated group of them can take one on. Won't be easy, but it's possible.

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>>15755392
Knight-Lancers are my favorite.

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>>15755379
General rule is the smaller the machine, the more there has to be. Same rule goes with titans.

A group of Warhounds can take down a bigger titan and so on.

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>Best Space Elf is returning to canon as a Space Elf Mech

YES

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>>15757896

>>15751044
>kaban machine

WELCOME TO YOKOUSU MECHANICUS PARK

>>15688212
>you can tell by the way he walks he's a woman's man, no time to talk

>>15760774
Levitated by the sheer force of his anger alright.

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>>15731430
Sadly not the biggest friendo, Castigator still beats them all, especially since it's the STC all other titan designs came from
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Castigator

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ok so just hear me out on this crazy idea

Warp fuckery leaks into a SRW universe and you get to use a Space marine and/or titan

good idea or bad one?

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>>15765632
40k doesn't really have anything close to what srw wants. I love 40k but that would be just as bad as putting something from battletech in there. Like the only thing that comes to mind for 40k would either need to be a more humanoid dreadnought with some mobility like the contemptor or some dumb white scars imperial knight asspull, and even then, they pale in comparison to the sheer majority of the hero roster.
I could see the Orks making an appearance over literally every other faction, if for nothing else than comic relief. Let the green skins get a hold of a mass production Eva, anything out og Mezinger, or even a ball, and they could go ham.

>>15686570
Tau are long-range faggots.

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>>15766742
Not all.

>>15765656
Psyker titans comes close.

>>15765019
are those angry marine titans?

>>15765019
>You can have weapons that can evaporate an entire hive city, or you can have a really really big sword

>>15757907
>weak ankles
well, they got that right

A Imperial Knights mechwarrior-like game is something I would literally kill for.

>>15767695
The titan pattern so op they're only restricted by decree. And that number is 25 for the whole Imperium.

>>15765656
Knights are larger than many robots that got into SRW and are nippy enough. Titans of all sides would fit in well.

>>15767832
Nah, that's Terra and those are Imperial Fists.

>>15765019
Kind of a shame they never attempted to build another Castigator-class variant, but without the AI aspect and more of a rudimentary setup similar to the Imperator-class.

>>15767695
>Psyker titans
Holy fuck that's OP.

>>15769604
Oh yeah, one conquered a planet without firing a shot.

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>>15769604
Yeah, the Ordo Sinister is basically the top tier force in the galaxy.

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>>15740655
A video game for it came out at least and its very fun

>>15771083
It is, I hope the studio doesn't abandon it.

>>15771357

>Don't ask me to grab things off the top shelf, please

>>15771083
I heard mixed things. Would you say it's fun despite flaws, or are those problems not actually a big deal to begin with?

>>15772061
The flaws a pretty much only present in multiplayer.

>>15772192
Excellent, a game mode I don't care about. I'll have to pick it up.

>>15772061
I agree with>>15772192
They aren't a big deal to begin with.

>>15772477
>>15771083
Yeah, I enjoyed Battlefleet Gothic, though even the singleplayer got a little repetitive for me after a while. I wish they had gone with a slightly more involved plot with more special boss ships (the only ones I can think of are I think the Ork mother base and then Abbadon's big planet killer as the last boss) but it's still pretty fun.

>>15773762
There are four chaos champion ships you could run into, one is the Terminus est.

>>15773790
Oh yeah, that's true. Those were nifty, though I think those were optional fights, right?