ITT: Iron Ma(d)n(ness)

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Shell head deserves more love. I used to find it boring but it grew on me.

I get what you mean about /co/, I used to go there all the time, now it's 50% cancerous cartoon fanbase and all Marvel comics are shit. I just go there to read the storytimes of pain, which Became a regular thing now.

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>>15661872
IM is one of those characters that always had good stories. But because of the relaunches, everybody thinks that aside from Demon in a Bottle, there's nothing worthwhile. Which is pretty bull. But after the MCU, his comics did legitimately turn to shit, around 2012 or so.

As for /co/, it really is shit at this point. Companywars, memes, waifuthreads and shitty cartoons. Pretty terrible all around.

The Ultimate armor is one of my faves, but I really hated that early "blue Tony" origin. It was just trash. And much as I hate the Bendis run, the current suit is sleek. Stupid and way too OP without having any feats (can you say Bendis?) but still, cool.

>>15661906
>IM is one of those characters that always had good stories.
Don't lie. Iron Man was a B-list hero for a reason. No one cared about his stories because nothing of note was going on. It's also why he was a key Avenger for most of the run when the title was concerned with giving characters a shared book when they couldn't pull in their own. He's a founding member with more star power than some of the other cast, but not to the level that the X-men were pulling.

>>15661962
This
the Avengers were Cap, Iron Man, and some other jobbers that can't carry their own books

>>15661856

This suit looked different from each angle. It's a nice design overall except for the garbage helmet.

>>15661962

Story telling quality has very little to do with popularity.

>>15661962
>>15661998

If he can't carry his own book, then why has he continuously had one for fifty years?

>>15661962
Just because he was a B-Lister doesn't mean he didn't have good stories. There are tons of comics that are "Z-List" and are infinitely better than the A-Listers.

And besides, taking Spider-Man and his tens of thousands of issues into account, how many good stories would an average person manage to name? Does that mean that he has only those few good stories and the rest is just exposure?

And as for the X-Men, sure, they were popular. But that doesn't mean they were good. Noseless Wolverine, X-Treme X-Men, Claremont's Return, etc. They were action-oriented Baycomics for most of the 90s.

Iron Man may not have had his super-well known stories like the Night Gwen Stacy Died or Kraven's Last Hunt, but his stories were always interesting. It's not like anybody can jut name Gruenwald Cap stories, but it is considered a classic run.

>>15662008
I liked the helmet tbqh. Maybe just because it was different from the 616 version. But I liked it, alongside the overall design.

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"Believe" Armor

I remember at the beginning with The Ultimates he had battery life issues with his suit and required a staff of 30+ ppl assisting him to operate it. I'm guessing none of that still applies right?

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>>15661856
>TM-Revolution plays

>>15663082
>I'm guessing none of that still applies right?
Well considering that the Ultimate universe no longer exists then yes.

>>15663082
What >>15663705 said. But even apart from that, after a few years the suit started being more advanced, with the final Ultimate one being something akin to the Secretary Armor.

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>>15661856
>Post-IM1 Tony has been awful
Post IM1 Tony has been the best iteration of Tony Stark there is.

I mean, it's like 616 Stark, but the dickish side of him has some actual valid and even sometimes sympathetic reasoning behind it.

MCU Tony Stark is probably the most interesting mainstream cape character out there right now, and I say that as someone that's been reading Marvel and DC since the 80's. His imperfections make him fascinating. Anyone that hates him is looking at him like a superhero that should be an icon for righteousness and resolute incorruptibility, whereas Stark's always been more of a mad scientist trying his absolute best to do the right thing.

A lot of that has to do with RDJ's personal, masterful portrayal of the character throughout his development instead of having to read internal diatribes in his own book that mildly and suspiciously conflict with his actions in other comics by different writers.

>>15661906
>IM is one of those characters that always had good stories. But because of the relaunches, everybody thinks that aside from Demon in a Bottle, there's nothing worthwhile. Which is pretty bull. But after the MCU, his comics did legitimately turn to shit, around 2012 or so.
Also this. Vol 3 and 4 are probably my favorite Iron Man, and while Vol 33 starts in 1998, Vol 4 is fairly recent and had the most influence on the character people these days are most familiar with.

>>15664031
I dislike the RDJ version because it's too "neat". No alcoholism, no womanizing aspects (instead settling down with the bland Pepper), no transhumanism, etc, etc. He's just not as good as I'd like him to be. IMHO always.

As for Vols, I will say that the Ellis/Knauf/Director of Shield is probably my favorite as well, but I really love the entire first vol. Hell, even the Liefield abomination is still somewhat enjoyable.

>>15664031
is this pasta?

>>15661856
Those fucking gundam legs.

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I unironically think the original grey suit is the best Iron Man design, by far.

There's something out that simple, old school look it has going on that I love, it strikes me as the most pure, iconic vision of an "iron man" from an age when capeshit comics didn't take themselves too seriously and start over-designing costumes for pointless attempts at realism.

The face design looks better than most other suits, it conveys a bit of emotion whereas most other iron man designs feel completely neutral and emotionless, this one properly hints that there's a human being behind the mechanical exterior, but does so without looking like the metal is going soft and fleshy to make an angry face.

Compared to later designs it's one of the only ones that actually looks like a suit of solid metal, while not being overdesigned with too many unnecessary details.

It sorta has a dieselpunk appearance, as well as a kind of German expressionist look similar to Maria from Metropolis.


Original Iron Man best Iron Man.

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>>15662656
This is my favorite too, it has some good lines and segments, and the color changeup looks pretty good

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>>15664100
Did somebody say Gundam?

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>>15664204
Post original donut steel /co/bots

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>>15664243
I want to build a collection of these so that I can eventually go post them on /co/ and get some delicious (you)s from the capeshit plebeians.

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>>15664262

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>>15664265

>>15664243
>The pose of the robot doesn't make sense.
>The expression of the woman doesn't make sense either. Is she angry? Disgusted? Confused?
>Those green beams seem to be shot by the snakes, but the snake-woman on the left is turning her head as if she's been hit by the beam instead.
I don't really read comics, but it looks bad to me.

>>15664267

The level of "tribute" in this picture hurts me.

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>>15664262
Kyle loves his giant robots

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>>15664199
The Extremis one might be my favorite, but Believe is in my Top 3, with the Superior Armor (Modular & Heroes Return round up the Top 5).

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>>15664199

I love this design for the same reason. I don't think the majority black with red highlights really works, but majority silver with black and gold works amazingly in my opinion. Tony used a more traditionally painted red and gold suit fir a while with the Guardians of the Galaxy, and while I liked the idea of the color scheme somewhat mimicking musculature I didn't like the execution, more than anything though I hated the helmet.

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>>15664146
Cool reasoning. From a fan standpoint, I like the Endo-Sym or Bleeding Edge suits because they give Tony more feats. But they docreate tons of problems in-universe, and ruin the "metal suit" feel. For my money, the Extremis armor was near perfect.

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>>15664326

This is the one I mean; there's some striations on the chest plates that remind me of muscle, though I dot know how deliberate that is really. The body is fine I suppose, I just hate the helmet and especially the yellow slashes running vertically along the skull.

>>15664331
I loved the Godkiller. Awful story, but cool suit.

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>>15664324
Modular is up there for me too, if only for MvC2

>>15664336
The Modular didn't have the best stories, but hot damn it looked cool. And yeah, MvC2 made it pure Nostalgia-Fuel.

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>>15664335

I thought the Godkiller was this thing? Nice colors again, but not a fan if the actual lines and design of it. The shoulders make it too top heavy for me I think, though the recessed head isn't great looking either.

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>>15664348
Yeah, technically the Godkiller is that armor, but considering the storyline and all, the GotG Suit has come to be called the Godkiller. The actual Godkiller has a pretty shitty story that's the result of a pretty shitty run, so people just ignore it.

Also, let's SUPERIORIZE this thread.

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Posting best armor.

>>15664401
The Gillen run sure was shit, and did awful things for Tony and his character, but it really did have some bitchin suits.

>>15661856
>Post-IM1 Tony has been awful
Superior and Ewing's mini were good.
Gillen's run was lackluster but miles better than Bendis.

>>15661962
>B-List
Stop. Its a stupid term that promotes the retarded notion that a character is as good as its sales. And yes, he had good stories, just because Moore or Morrison didn´t write a pretentious "graphic novel" with im doesn't make him bad.

>>15662010
I'm still waiting for /co/ to properly answer this.

>>15664042
>No alcoholism, no womanizing aspects (instead settling down with the bland Pepper)
To be fair alcoholism hasn't been an issue in comics that much after the 80s. Only when a writer wants to make a cheap callback to DiaB.
And his womanizing aspect isn't as relevant as people think, a defining aspect of Tony's different eras as character are the girl he fell in love with and won't end up with for some reason Bethany will always be best waifu.

>>15664146
From the comics my favs are classic, modular (mostly nostalgia for the 90s show but it does look good) and Extremis. BE is, I feel, a bit overrated.

>>15664454
The Ewing mini was that with the Soviet Robot on the moon and the Doom from the future, right?

>>15664459
I'd say the womanizing aspect was a fairly big part. Due to Howard's abuse he felt he needed to become more "manly" and thus turned to extreme sports and one night stands. Apart from the in-universe reason, him being James Bond x Q was a big part of why readers back then liked him.

I'm not in favor of "lol so random" Tony, I just like him having vices and whatnot. As for best girl... Widow still gets my vote. Sure, it was based on deceit and apart from some one-night-stands nothing had come out of it, but I like pairing. Rumiko wasn't that bad either.

>>15664262
I love /m/ thread on /co/, so if that means that i would be able to talk about Gundam there, so be it.

>>15664267
It looks like a shitty mix between Iron Man Samus in her Varia Suit and EVA-02.

>>15664265
>Literally has the fucking piece staring at him
>Still fucks up the proportions of the pilot, the mech's knees, the front of its right leg with the open panel and the shoulder attachments, and its left arm

Incredible

>>15665512
>>15664265
Oh and also the bimbo's left leg is literally in front of the mech's leg, it's not planted on the footrest.

>Comic book artists

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>>15665512
To be fair to other comic artists Rob is in a league of his own.

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Have a Phoenix Killer.

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My favorite, unfortunately, never made it past the concept phase.

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>>15667986
That's Mark XV; they used it in Iron Man 3.

>>15667986
Was made into a toy tho

>>15661906
i remember reading an ultimate story in a store awhile back. Wasn't Iron Man actually a mech in that one?

>>15661856
Guarantee this is traced from something. Those shins look like Turn A.

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Mark XLVII gives me wood

>>15668346
It definitely looks better onscreen than I originally thought it would...but that can be said for all the IM armors.

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>>15668300
Closest I can think of pic related, from the Hickman Ultimates run.

>>15665598
Isn't that just the mech from Tech Romancer?

>>15669224
Yes. Yes it is.

>>15668992
I love that this thing is basically piloted by a tumor manifesting as Tony's inner child.

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I LOVE SILVIE!

>>15669405
...wat

>>15669405
Didn't it actually end up being one of the infinity stones?

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>>15669413
MCU's Silver Centurion really does look fucking fabulous.

>>15669672
In Ultimates, Stark has a sentient tumor in his brain that manifests (to him) as a small child named Anthony. This tumor can interface with technology similarly to how 616 Tony could with Extremis. There's actually a page where Stark's trying to disable a nuke mid-flight, and his mental projection of Anthony is riding it Dr. Strangelove-style.

Ultimates was fucking wild while it lasted.

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The War Machine will always be my armor.

>>15664345
And the second season of the 90s cartoon (and subsequently his appearances in Spider-Man)

>>15669821
Yeah. The Ultimate Universe was a fucked up universe. Best Peter Parker we've ever had though. Honorable mention to Marvel Adventures Pete.

And, Tony was amusing, though definitely... odd storylines.

I would love to see Tony get his hands on say, EVA parts or an Gundam and reverse engineer that shit.

>>15670711
>or an Gundam and reverse engineer that shit.

Stark's tech is WAAAY beyond Gundam stuff.

>>15669413
Silver Centurion should have been the star suit of Iron Man 3 instead of Marl XLII. It was a big deal in the comics, particularly in regards to Stark handling his demons, so it seems far more thematically fitting for it to be used in the primary suit in the film.

>>15670885
>It was a big deal in the comics
I'd be surprised is the director of this shit even knew Iron Man came from comics.

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>>15671423
Iron Man 3 is basically a big excuse to reference as many different armors as possible. Somebody in the production crew knew shit about comics, even if it was the Marvel Bigwig up top yelling, "MORE ARMORS! WE NEED TO SELL TOYS!" There was some guy in there somewhere who knew shit that could have gone, "Hey, you know, this one's way better. Why don't we make this one the main one?"

If any armor got screwed it that movie it was Heartbreaker. Heartbreaker was sex but I don't think it's ever even worn.

>>15670711

Is there even anything in Eva he would care about? The only things it has are the Eva's restraining armor, the N2 mines and the positron rifle. None of which he'd be interested in, and which he's also designed stuff more powerful than even if he was. He has access to intellstellar and outright magical tech if he wants, nothing in Eva or Gundam will interest him, beyond maybe the solar drives in 00 given the transhuman aspect.

>>15670885

So what? Being big in the comics has nothing to do with the films. It can influence it, but it doesn't have to. Nor should it have to, since they're only inspiration and the films will be better charting their own course, good or bad.

>>15671514
Tony would probably use the AT Field and apply it.

Christ, the more I think about it, Tony is some mecha universes ranges from, "cute toys" to "In Stark's Hands, this would be absolutely terrifying!"

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Neo-Classic with the Thermos boots is where my money's at. And it comes in at the climax of the Armor Wars story.

Too bad it was basically the start of Tony changing garbs at least every 2 years, and never having any look for too long.

>>15671942

An AT field isn't technology though, it's physiology and psychology. He'd use it if he could erect one, but he couldn't just build one.

>>15671965
I remember Modular and Extremis lasting about five years each. Extremis has certainly had a lasting impact past that, at least. Before that design almost every armor had visible muscles showing through the suit, like a conventional superhero, but since then it's always been drawn as armor. He does change his costume more than anybody else, though.

He's a very toyetic character, and characters who sell toys get new looks a lot. Just look at how many costumes Captain America has been through since his movies started getting big. I think over half of the costumes that Cap has ever worn have been in the past ten years.

>>15671994
>he couldn't just build one.
that sounds like a challenge

>>15671996

Janet Van Dyne has a new costume every other issue, so she probably outdoes Tony, but she's a fashionista and it's part of her characterisation that she loves trying new outfits and does it for no real practical purpose.

>>15671942

I'd like to see what he'd make out of Harro or Medabots.

>>15672018
Modular only lasted from #300 until like 317? I think. It only seemed longer because of the show, and all the stuff from around the like MvC.

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I'm in the minority that thinks they reached cinematic perfection with the Mark IV.

>>15674594
Mark III is the best armor on screen, but Mark IV has the best Hot Toys figure.

>>15672342
A Stark built medabot....that sounds awesome yet at the same time a really, really bad idea if its mass produced and given to kids

Give me the Mark V armor. I dig that Suitcase Suit.

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>>15674594
>I'm in the minority that thinks they reached cinematic perfection with the Mark IV.

You are not alone, sir. I've liked pretty much all the armors from the MCU, but MkIV is my all-time fav.

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Re-Edit Modular Iron Man is super sweet

(even if it is an obvious precolor for Re-Edit War Machine)

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>>15674594
The Mark IV concept Prototype (seen in your pic) was complete sex. Then they decided to change the biceps and shoulderpads for no reason, and THEN decided yo change the perfect color palatte for Mark VI, which was worse.

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>>15664042
Hollywood will never do transhumanism. We will never get HyperVelocity in any sort of moving picture format.

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>>15674989
I dunno...Infinity War Stark seems to have a new armor that's borderline techno-organic in appearance and he's got a new chestpiece with RDJ wearing what looks like a high-tech undersheath.

The Russo's are pretty ballsy directors and they already showed interest in the Bleeding Edge armor...wouldn't put it past them to do their own version of it.

>>15675000
>candid set photo
>appeara as if he fucking posed for it.

How do I be this photogenic, lads?

>>15675000
I know bleeding edge is superior, but I just love HyperVelocity because there's literally no Tony left. It was a last resort designed to put a copy of his mind in the suit should he be mortally wounded.

>>15675002
RDJ's just good-looking and has this constant air of confident nonchalance about him. That's his modern default, so it just naturally produces good candid shots

It's not a hard look to pull off as long as you're not some fatty bobatty with a neckbeard.

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>>15674964
>an obvious precolor for Re-Edit War Machine

True dat

>>15677060
Looks like the War Machine from Rise of Technovore.

Is sentinel toys Japanese?

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>>15674977
Everything about that suit looks gorgeous aside from the legs...what the fuck, Meindeering?

Also, Mark VII is bae

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Since the Modular armor's already been posted, I'll throw my hat in for the short-lived stealth armor Rhodey wore for an all too brief time.

>>15675005
I know it's par for the course with plots in superhero comics, but I love how a plotpoint from a one-off miniseries has become so relevant in recent years.

>>15679821
>Is sentinel toys Japanese?
You couldn't tell?.

daily reminder that superior iron man is best iron man

>>15664204
what's the following page of that one?

I like chunky and clunky armors, so I was actually a fan of the Iron Monger armor from the movie.

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>>15664199
Underrated design, the color change elevates it.

>>15682206
Getting a Yoji SHinkawa vibe from this. And yes, it's great.

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I rather like the Model Prime, even if the comics it actually looks good in are written by Bendis...

>>15661856
>6'1"

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>>15664330
>Stark was such a competent Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. that it took a crazy otherworldly mass infiltration that was near impossible to predict, detect, or prevent to oust him from the position.

Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. was a good run, is all I'm saying.

>>15661906
Honestly from the beginning of the first Michelinie & Bob Layton run up until the end of Len Kaminski's run, Iron Man was a pretty solid book. There isn't a lot that's "classic" but it was consistently good which is a lot better than many other comic characters with spotty histories.

After that though everything sort of went to shit with a few bright spots like Busiek's run and the Knauf's run. I can take or leave Fraction's Iron Man. Everything in the last few years has been pretty blah.

>>15664345
They were part of the weaker end of Kaminski's run due to forced bullshit from the executives but I still enjoyed them. As a writer he focused a lot on the technical aspects which I appreciated. It also only lasted two years due to those same fuckwit executives.

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>>15689368

So, what if Tony got a hold on some Super Alloy Z?

I kinda just want to sit down with Tony and just watch a bunch of /m/ shit and occasionally ask "Can you build that?"

>>15689627
>So, what if Tony got a hold on some Super Alloy Z?
Then Dr Hell would start sending Ashura and Brocken to pester Tony with mechanical beasts.

>>15689654
>Tony actually makes Minerva X instead due to working with the Photon labs.

I am kinda liking this idea.

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開発の方向性が間違っていないか?

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>>15685753
Director of Shield was pretty fun. Probably my third favorite Iron Man story arc.

Also, have a quick edit I did.

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i fucking love the Starboost armor

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>>15695348

>>15662010

Green Arrow has one and he's no A Lister. hes a safe bet but has no real claim to fame except filling his anti commie /m/ niche til the movies came.

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Posting the run that never was.

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It's been several years since IM3 and XXXIII is till my favorite movie suit. I wish it got more love.

They got the wrong director for Iron Man 3. Based on the interviews, the guy clearly had no vision for Iron Man, and only got the job because Robert Downey pulled some strings as he owed him a favor.

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So apparently, there's talk of Veronica fighting a four-legged monster in Wakanda in Infinity War

>>15696876

I really didn't expect the Hulkbuster to ever show up again, so I'm delighted if it does regardless of why.

>>15664322
Wait what? Is that an edit?

>>15674964
Damn I'm always a sucker for mounted weapons with "teeth".

>>15698021

Looks like a grumpy old man

>>15696146
The anti-commie stuff died off after Vietnam. He developed more of a character in the run that included Demon in a Bottle. From there he started transitioning into the vice-ridden genius and the futurist inventor instead of the All-American Military Industrial Complex Man from the 60's and early 70's.

Then RDJ's version came along and they kept the self-destructive futurist bits and added several layers of snark, which he probably needed for a cinematic version to work honestly.

>>15696652
I was disappointed it didn't get to be a main suit in at least one movie. They seemed to know enough that it was a popular design among comics fans but didn't go all the way.

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>>15670885
>>15698345
I agree. I also think that this shpuld have been the starting suit in Age of Ultron in light of that (since it looks like a furtherrefined, less specialized version of Mark XXXIII)

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>>15699437
Mark XXXIII for comparison

>>15698021
>What If Tony Stark had Soul Edge?

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Can you guys post more of his buster suits like >>15696876 ? I love the bulky Iron Man suits the most and a part of me loves that the hulk busters pretty much always fail because to my recollection hulk just always peeled it off of him, at least he did in World War Hulk.

>>15670157
The death of Peter Parker in ultimate was fucking beautiful and the one of the best endings to a Spiderman story. The page of him walking off with uncle Ben makes me want to cry. This beautiful ending is the real reason anyone should hate Miles Morales, because his existence spit on a perfect ending.

>>15699437
Looks so much better than 42 and 43. Those were one dimensional pieces of crap with no depth or anything interesting really.

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Okay this is not Tony Stark and this is DC, BUT I think Ironman could has design this iron bat suit and I love the idea.

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>>15699586
Have a Celestial Buster.

>>15701413
GTFOH Batfag. This is a Stark thread... Alright, that was a pretty cool suit. It's the Justice-Buster I hated. Snyder's run was full of PIS. And King's Batman is... ugh...

>>15701413

Steel is a better DC Iron Man really, though I think Batman should always be using power armor at this point given the comparative strength of his enemies. You can make him more vulnerable and fallible as a person by using power armor too.

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>>15702199
That's why Batman Beyond is the superior Batman story

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There's not nearlu enough female-specific suits.

I kind of wish there was an artist out there that drew feminine versions of every film's suits.

I just want to be Iron Man...

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Posting Ultimate... something. I don't even remember if they bothered to give this one a number. It's from the Second... or Third, Ultimate Iron Man mini.

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>>15704068
There's Rescue. 'Sides, feminine armors are sexist.

>>15704070
I always liked how Ultimates Stark was like a wittier version of 616 Stark without the occasional villainous tendancies.

>>15705434
He was probably more evil than 616 Tony, but he's more openly evil and everyone else is worse so by comparison he comes out better.

>>15705434
He was more of a drunken jerk, really. He did have his ocassional good moments, but he was mostly a drunk. I enjoyed him, and the original armor is one of my faves, but I vastly prefer 616 Stark.

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>>15699586
I gotcha.

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>>15706209

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>>15706216
Okay I'm done.

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>>15702024
>>15706147
>>15706209
>>15706216
Thanks guys, this is exactly what I wanted: bulky, heavily armored, more heavily armed power suits/mecha. It's an aesthetic that I think few get right but Iron Man pretty consistently does well.

>>15706209
MUH DICK

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Mark 48?

>>15706651
I like it. Looks kind of alien...

>>15664326
>says Iron Man
>posts EVA MJOLNIR

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>>15706223
No problem.

>>15706651
About as cool as I thought. I'd have to see it with the full helmet before I pass judgment though.

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>>15708022

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>>15708059
I meant the finished product, but thanks.

>>15664322
>QUALITY in a comic
How do they manage to fuck this up?

>>15708059
I just realized that the eyes are making contact with the red on the helmet...

That, coupled with the fact that the Infinity War poster's portrayal of the suit looks like it doesn't have a retractable helmet ala Mark 46 makes me think it's going to be one of those "Henshin!" armors like Bleeding Edge or Model Prime.

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>>15710140
Speaking of liquid armor, I'm noticing a vague similarities with the SKIN suit as well. But maybe that's just me.

>>15706223
Jesus. Was this Not!Terminator armor in one of the movies?

>>15664243
Why is this robot firing homing farts at innocent snake people?

>>15708059
I fucking LOVE that helmet...

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>>15662656
>>15664199
>Literally only exists to trace movie cg

>>15698021
>Tech Romancer

Tekkaman Iron

>>15710771
Igor's in 3, yeah. It was the one holding up the oil rig.

>>15697626
Nah, Kyle Raynor is a comics artist and weeb on top of being a Green Lantern. Part of what makes him one of the most powerful Lanterns is that he makes extremely well thought out and complex constructs compared to the simpler fists and guns most of the other Earth Lanterns use.

>>15697626
>>15711613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3B8rTaey-I&t=11m39s
(11:39)

>>15664146

I like it in the same way I like a Zaku I or an FT-17

>>15708022
>>15708106
https://my.mixtape.moe/rrhkec.mp4

You can see it in this.

Also Hulkbuster confirmed.

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Mad Men: Iron Man Edition when?

>>15714549
>Also Hulkbuster confirmed
HOLY FUCK YESSSS

>>15699586
>and a part of me loves that the hulk busters pretty much always fail because to my recollection hulk just always peeled it off of him, at least he did in World War Hulk.

Except in AoU where he actually knocks out and subdues Hulk.

Granted he has to drop a building on him to do so, but it's surprising because the Hulkbuster usually never works.

>>15718405

>but it's surprising because the Hulkbuster usually never works.


Yeah but it HAS worked at least once (it caused the armor 's joints to fuse up from the sheer force of the KO punch, but it still counts as a win), also remember that Hulk was coming down off of the high caused by Scarlet witch's mindfuckery.

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>>15704068
I know that feeling. I think that design looks way better in blue, though.

I read comics a lot but I never got into Iron Man. What are some good runs to get into?

>>15664262
>>15664322
Are these from his solo series or Morrison's JLA? Fucking Johns turned him into a jobber.

>>15719460
-Original
-Goodwin's is good but it continues from the original, so you might as well start there
-Layton-Michelinie
-For something modern start with Extremis

Pretty much everything from the beggining up to the crossing in the 90s is good. After heroes Reborn ends its a mixed bag with a few up and downs depending on your personal tastes but not as consistent as the runs that came before(granted, marvel comics in general has been having shorter runs too). Everything after the recent Secret Wars has been shit.

>>15719503
Aw, are we not even going to talk about Matt Fraction? World's Most Wanted is my favorite Iron Man stories ever.

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>>15720211
Matt Fraction's run is weird in the senae that it can switch back ans forth from really good to horrible so fast, it gives me whiplash.

>>15720211
I said everything after has up downs as does >>15720465 which is why I didn't include them. But I guess its not a bad jumping point either. Better at least than Gillen's and the current shit.

>>15715112
how does he raise his arms?

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Better look at the infinity war suit

>dat organic, seamless armor

Confirmed for perpetually malleable armor, at least.

>>15661872
I'd have to disagree with all Marvel comics being shit, the 2014 and 2016 Moon Knight runs are pretty good, that is, before they got canceled.

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Remember that time stark got drunk and made hulk and others giant robots?

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>>15722087
Remember that time Stark saved the world by fucking a giant vagina asteroid?

>>15722196
The Boys is a...extremely strange read

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Is there anywhere I can actually torrent this? I can't find the series fucking ANYWHERE

>>15722542

I read the first chapter or two and found it fairly boring personally. It's Garth Ennis writing a super hero tale, and Garth Ennis hates the execution of most heroes even if I'm pretty sure he doesn't hate the actual concept given how he portrayed Superman in Hitman. He was attempting to add humanity to them by focusing on how heroes could be socially amazing but personally awful, and it just came across as shock for shocks sake I guess, with nothing behind it. It might have changed over time, but those first issues didn't wow me. I think Nextwave (despite the somewhat annoying humour), Ex Machina, Powers and probably a lot of other works do the same concept better, even if they have their own problems.

>>15721015
Where the fuck is Ant-Man?

>>15722608

Making out with Black Widow off to the side.

>>15722636
Black Widow's standing behind Cap. She has bleached blonde hair.

>>15722667

Hah, missed that. Thought it was Peggy Carter or someone since she's apparently appearing in the film. Ant-man is the only one missing so really, and certainly the only leading film character not there since no one from Doctor Strange besides Strange himself is there. How odd. Technically they could say he's too small to see or something, but he's definitely listed as being in the film and his own wasn't a flop or anything to say they wouldn't want to feature him so his absence is definitely notable.

>>15721015
doesn't Thanos usually have a helmet or something so he doesn't look like a big purple scrotum is popping out of his neck?

>>15674989
this is the best iron man comic and it's a one-off written by a crazy person

>>15722903
Damn it, now that you point it out it's kind of bizarre that Star-Lord, Spider-Man and Black Panther are the only characters allowed to wear their masks/helmets here.

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Iron SAMURAI

>>15721015
Thor... doesn't look like Thor at all?

>>15725861

He looks identical to how he looks in Thor 3: Ragnorak, his hair cut short and his normal identity in flux because Hel defeated him and broke Mjolnir.

>>15725884
Why is Green Lantern such a dick?

>>15725901

I do not get that reference.

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>>15722903
>doesn't Thanos usually have a helmet or something
Yeah but the Russos won't make him wear his usual outfit in IW because he doesn't need it anymore. He is in a spiritual joerney they say

>>15725922
But does he have to look stupid while he's on a spiritual journey?

>>15725922
They said he has it but they didn't use it in the poster because it takes away from the Gauntlet

>>15725959
Read yesterdays interview you stupid fuck

>>15725959
Really? Cause last night they had an interview and they said he wouldn't wear it because they want to make him a deep character or something like that. Maybe in Avengers 4 but he'll be like this >>15721015 in IW

>>15725972
I thought IW was Avengers 4?

>>15725974
Nope, thats the title for Avengers 3. Avengers 4 still doesn't have one

>>15725977
I swear we had an Avengers 3, I must be thinking of Cap 3.

>>15725980
That was Captain America: Civil War.......AKA Avengers 2.5 or Iron-Man 4

>>15722546
You're better off just watching it on Crackle or something. It has some interesting bits, but it's not worth leaving on your HDD for any length of time.

>>15725922
That's rather annoying. All this build up and he shows up practically naked? It's like Vader showing up to his first duel with Luke in a bathrobe and sandals.

Did they fuck off with the black wyoman in nu marvel or is she still around like a sticky shit?

>>15727018
>marvel
>fucking off black wyoman

you must be clinically retarded, of course not

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I feel a bit alone in this but I REALLY like Mark XLV...

>>15728430
It's too red! Needs more gold.

I also don't like the fact that it's impossible to make a practical suit of. I know that only Iron Man ever actually uses full practical suits, but making sure that they COULD be built and worn still lent credibility to some of the later designs. A suit that can obviously only exist in CGI is obviously CGI, though, plus it means that even high quality figures can't be screen accurate unless they sacrifice posability.

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>>15728430
I didn't like it at first because of how organic it looked. But now I like it.

The other one that is

>>15728430
Was a little tooooo organic-looking for my tastes. The Mark XLVI was more my jam.

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>>15729561
>I also don't like the fact that it's impossible to make a practical suit of.
Cosplayers are trying their darnedest to pull it off with 3D printing.

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>>15728430
Nah, I love how sleek it is. Very reminiscent of Bleeding Age

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Model prime is maybe my favorite armor when drawn by the right artist.

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>>15730188
Chin's a tad too pronounced. Beyond that, I like how the artist emphasized the hexagonal arrangement of nanomachine-based building blocks.

>>15730229
I'd be more worried about the fact that his neck's a foot long.

>>15730243
Without shoulders and the rest of the body for scale, the "neck" could be super thick and the rest really armoured and that's where his head actually is, and the face is an ornament on top of his head or something to make him look taller/larger/more imposing or just a fake head like good ol' Cherno Alpha.

>>15718396
This was a super underrated run.

>>15725912
Why is Hel Jordan fucking up Mjolnir?

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>>15706223
BATTLE BROTHER!

>>15696639
Who was it meant to be by?

>>15667956
I hate this thing so much.
It's so unimaginative.

>>15669854
Hickman saved the ultimate version from despair, then Humphries had to go fuck it up and shit on the corpse for good measures.

>>15671490
I think the production on Iron Man 3, couple with the constant meddling with Thor Dark World, Ant-Man, Age of Ultron, and Civil War caused Marvel Studios to snap, break ties with Marvel Entertainment and go take orders from Disney instead.

>>15704068
Pepper has her own suit, there also Riri Williams but we don't talk about her seeing how she's Bendis' adopted daughter self insert mary sue.

>>15725972
Eh, I give Farmer Thanos a shot, as long as the next movie has him decked out in his armor.

>>15721015
>Cap looking more like Big Boss...

>>15733748
But that's Thor. I think.

>>15733752

Cap is at the front, Thor is in the back between Groot and Loki. He looks different since his hair is cut, but it's definitely him.

>>15732323
A) Hal Jordan.
B) Hel is the Norse goddess of death and the ruler of the realm of the same name, which, with Niflelm, is one of the two "bad" underworlds. BTW, half her body is rotten.

In Marvel comics, she's called Hela.

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>>15733763
>confusing Hal for a goddess

>>15733752
Why would Thor be wearing a suit with a big ol' star on the front?

>>15721611
Agree, both runs of MK were great.

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>>15735752

>>15711353
>this is about making choices and living with them
Yeah, except for the choice of making a liquid suit.

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How do you suit up, /m/?

Gantry assembly? Armor opens up and you step in? Nanomachines in your body form around your body?

>>15737229
gantry assembly forever.
i know its impractical and requieres a lot of facilities , but it looks DAMN COOL

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That reminds me, how's everyone feel about the suit in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite?

Personally, I think it's great. Looks like a perfected version of the Mark 42 with stylistic touches referencing past armors.

>>15737229
I'm a sucker for the armor that opens up. It's the sweet spot of futuristic mechanical quick-changes.

I actually love the nanomachines too, but it looked weird depending on who was drawing the sequence. Seems like one of those rare things that would look better in live action than the page.

Seeing the little tidbits of of the new armor from Infinity Wars I'm wondering of perhaps Tony's Spider man suits are some kind of early prototype for what he's wearing.

Think about it. They're seemingly a malleable, reshapable material that is loaded with tech. Maybe there is some linage in his designs between the suits he makes for Peter and what he ends up with in Infinity War.

>>15737229
I guess I might take Nanomachines if they'd pop out of my neck when I shout "Guyver".

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>>15728430
Mark XLV's general silhouette is probably my favorite in the MCU

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>>15737952

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>>15737952
I love how almost skintight it is...

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>>15737952

>>15664042
>No alcoholism, no womanizing aspects (instead settling down with the bland Pepper), no transhumanism,
All of this has been present, just not as strongly as in the comics.
They tend to be altered, included very subtly, or implied.
Like that time in IM2 when Tony gets drunk after learning he's gonna be dying soon.

>>15670877
Conventional stuff like the strike and Zeta probably.
But stuff like psychoframe, ELS, or the God Gundam's powers are a bit out of reach.

>>15737804
As cool as that is, I still wish he wasn't so heavily involved in the creation of the Spidey suit. They really fucked Peter's presence in the MCU up by making him so connected to Stark.

>>15738016
Oh yea of little faith.

>ELS
He's incorporated alien tech into his armor before.

>PsychoframeGod Gundam
A little iffy. He built a suit that could respond to his brain waves body back in the 80s, and he's had a couple remotely piloted suits since. If he ever needed to make an armor that could duplicate chi attacks, he probably could.

Speaking of which, I'm surprised they haven't come up with an excuse to have him team-up with Iron Fist for some mecha Kung Fu action.

>>1574129

> They really fucked Peter's presence in the MCU up by making him so connected to Stark.

How exactly? It seems fine to me.

>>15741291

He's also had (and discarded) several shape shifting armors that could make any weapon he could imagine now and he used extremis to make himself a technopath capable of communicating mentally with any and all technology. I believe War Machine also briefly used some alien armor that could combine reproduce most any weapon, including remote drones and also adapt to a lot of things. The only thing Tony may not have already produced in some way is God Gundam like armor and he'd have no reason to because he can't do martial arts, so forging an armor that works via martial arts would be pointless. At best all he'd want to do is reproduce the effects those martial arts produce, which he's kind of done regardless. He already uses big beams as his main weapon and controls his suit via movement, thought and voice and he can do things like reproduce his form by simply making new armors and remote controlling them (or handing them off to an AI to control) or using a holographic device to confuse the enemy.

>>15741695
Peter's a self-made hero, even more so than Stark, albeit on a budget. Having him act so blatantly "NOTICE ME, SENPAI!" and relying so heavily on Stark technologically and emotionally feels a little insulting. Like they couldn't find a way to differentiate him prior version and fit him into the universe without making him Stark's #1 fanboy. I know part of Homecoming was getting him to be more independent and use his own ingenuity, but they really could have found a better way to present that concept.

Also the idea that he can build his own webshooters and fancy goggles on the cheap but can't even put a decent bodysuit together rubs me the wrong way. I know it's petty in the grand scheme of things, but come on.

Finally, the obvious fact they don't really have a plan for the character in the MCU besides keeping Sony afloat on good will long enough so they can try to spin-off their own mini-universe AGAIN, but I'm digressing at this point.

>>15741924
Oh yeah, I forgot about the technopathy. Thanks for the reminder.

>>15742045

Peter might historically have been a genius scientist, but the comics rarely ever focused on that and usually left it at "built webshooters/fluid". Which he also did in this version. Peter only being able to cobble together a natty suit and relying on Stark for a tailored one feels more in line with his normal characterization frankly, since being able to build a technological item like a webshooter or chemical one like fluid is almost entirely a different skill set than being able to make a one piece suit, which is more about stitching and dying than scientific know how.

I don't think "self-made" really applies to Peter either honestly, especially in comparison to Stark, since Peter is a hero because of an accident reliant on someone else's science. He became a hero out of that, but Stark made himself a hero almost entirely on his own. Everything you dislike about Homecoming and how it treated Peter is something I like about it by the sounds of things.

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>>15741924
>The only thing Tony may not have already produced in some way is God Gundam like armor and he'd have no reason to because he can't do martial arts
Actually, just about every incarnation of Stark is pretty well-versed in martial arts, at least for the Average human. There's been scenarios wherehe's fought several goons at once with no suit and came out on top.

He's no Cap or Domon, but most incarnations of Tony Stark would probably beat a Navy SEAL in hand to hand combat pretty competently.

>>15727018
No they have doubled down, she is now asserted herself as queen of Latveria.

Like most of all nu all shit Marvel she is a super villain.

>>15722608
Fucking the brains out with The Wasp.

>>15742091
>I don't think "self-made" really applies to Peter either honestly, especially in comparison to Stark, since Peter is a hero because of an accident reliant on someone else's science.

I guess I misspoke. I meant he's able to build his own equipment without the benefit of billions of dollars of tech at his disposal. Even then, that's kind of splitting hairs, since Stark wouldn't have survived very long after the explosion without Yinsen's assistance. They both wouldn't be heroes without certain twists of fate.

I suppose I am more upset at the changes to the character to make Peter different from his previous movie incarnations. With each iteration he seems arguably closer to the comics in terms of general skill, but his personality winds up suffering in some way.

>>15742849
>No they have doubled down, she is now asserted herself as queen of Latveria.

Is... Is this a joke? I know Riri is kind of a Mary Sue, but that's a bit much, even for Bendis.

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Back view of Mark XLVII(?)

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>>15745193
I like that metal muscle look the arms have.

God, I hope this thing can morph weapons Bleeding Edge-style...

>>15698021
Shin Iron Man?
Iron Man Amazon?
Flesh Man?

>>15745090
Based granov...

>>15744926
God damn do I hate modern Marvel and their tumblr-tier bullshit. I feel fortunate to have grown up in a better time for capeshit, able to see the stories I read as a kid get brought to the big screen, but I feel bad for kids who go see the latest Marvel movie and then try to get into the comics. "Why's Iron Man a girl? Why's Thor a girl? Why's the Hulk Asian? Why's Captain America black? Where are the guys from the movies?"

More on topic, I have always enjoyed the Iron Man aesthetic. I appreciate the smooth lines and gold accents. I get hyped whenever a new movie comes out because I like seeing what new suit they'll have Iron Man wear. The armor up/down sequences are also especially gratifying.

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I think Sentinels take on the Hulkbuster will forever be my favorite. I love how it looks like a lightning bruiser.

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>>15749543
>Why's Captain America black?
That one's entirely acceptable, given than Sam Wilson has been a supporting Captain America character for quite awhile, not to mention is a popular character in the MCU.

It's not the far left that's at fault, its the writers with a lack of talent foe the medium. Ms. Marvel is tumblr-tier as fuck, especially with two out of three artists that worked on it, but it's probably one of the only enjoyable books Marvel has going on right now.

Gwenpool, to my , is also an surprisingly great read, and in all actuality, in spite of the protagonist's unconventional hair color, it's not tumblr-tier in any capacity! Christopher Hastings and Gurihiru have done the impossible with a spinoff based a gwen stavy variant cover

My point is, it's not the tumblr-ness that's wrong with Marvel, these days; it's the writer's and their incompetence, most of them being just average white dudes that have adopted a left-wing worldview without the experiences or reasoning that might give such a worldview any relatable context, especially when it bleeds into their work, which is why it's so cringey when a Marvel character suddenly becomes a mouthpiece for whatever sociology professor-tier rhetoric they might have up their sleeve.

>>15749550
Those color separated panels are sexy as fuck, unlike the half naked MK47.

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>>15749878
For anyone that's about to ask, no, he doesn't kill her.

>>15745200
I love how they retained the glowly bits from the 45 and integrated them into cool patterns.

I hope that the panels lines light up as well. It could make for some awesome night fights.

>>15749543
Iron Man's not a girl. Riri is Iron Heart. Victor Von Doom is Iron Man. Although I guess you wouldn't know that unless you actually read the comics instead of just complaining about them on the internet.

>>15749878
I've heard good stuff about Gwenpool. I liked Doctor McNinja, so I'd probably like the rest of Hastings's stuff. I like the Falcon and have no issues with him being Cap, but if you're a kid who's never read comics it could get confusing if you're expecting Chris Evans in the comic and get someone else.

>>15749899
Dude, I quit reading comics altogether after the whole Cap's actually a Hydra double agent thing happened. I stopped following Iron Man after he made that weird app that made people skinny and hot and then started charging for it. I'm tired of being disappointed and let down by comics. They should be fun and most of them aren't.

Them ruining Cap killed a small part of me, that inner kid that used to play pretend with his friends and wanted to grow up to be like Cap. I gotta preserve what few decent pieces of my childhood remain untainted by modernity.

>>15742765
RDJ himself does martial arts so I'm sure that may or may not shine through from time to time.

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>>15749550
Oh lord, that is beautiful. Why am I just discovering this exist?

>>15749920
>Dude, I quit reading comics altogether after the whole Cap's actually a Hydra double agent thing happened.

I hate the current state of Marvel too, but you really shouldn't say hyperbolic stuff like that. There's plenty of fish in the sea, both currently printed and in back issues to discover. Not just Marvel, either.

Have you considered making the jump to DC and discovering the good word of Hypercrisis?

>>15750230
After they ended the New 52 stuff and started some new shit I took a look and was so jaded by my experience with Marvel that I didn't even really give it a go. Is it worth my time now? Is there a torrent that'd catch me up?

I'm currently reading through TransMet, 90's Starman, and Hellblazer. Anything /m/ I should check out once I've got more space on my tablet?

>>15750230
>Oh lord, that is beautiful. Why am I just discovering this exist?

Probably because it is a niche product that's 250 fucking bucks. Holy grail of mine though. All the gimmicks it has are amazing too. The batteries for the torso lights are stored in the pylons ffs.

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>>15721015
Captain Beardmerica looks more Thor than Thor himself. If he gets injured and puts on an eyepatch halfway through the film, I'll clap like an American.

>>15749550
I would like Sentinel a lot more if they judt toned down the two-tone paint they use.

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>>15708022
>I'd have to see it with the full helmet before I pass judgment though.

Here ya go, sonny.

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>>15751619
Better res

>>15753991
Red lights on Iron Man armors aren't used nearly enough.

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>>15755444

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>>15664267
reminds of that one time they made Spider-Man an Evangelion.

>>15755791
I almost forgot Section 9 got to come along for the ride.

>>15755791
Is that Batou on bottom left corner?

>>15755832
And I guess that's Saito bottom right

>>15750230
>those buzzsaw knees
holy shit, it's Garmraid

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>>15758208
Mark VII > your favorite armor.

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>>15750270
Ah, I see I was worried for nothing. Those are some pretty good picks.

As for whether current DC's worth it, that depends. They're currently taking a more back-to-basics approach while referencing and incorporating old continuity into the line. Still, I'd have to say the best books coming out so far are New Super-Man and Deathstroke. I've also heard good things about the new Doom Patrol.

>Is there a torrent that'd catch me up?
No torrents so far, but you if you look up DC Rebirth: Deluxe Edition, you should find a good "starter pack" on Get Comics. The other books I mentioned can be found in /co/'s Win-O threads in the archives.

>Anything /m/ I should check out once I've got more space on my tablet?

Ironically, the 12-issue Vision miniseries from Marvel. It's more of a sci-fi psychological horror story about a robot trying to start a family, and it's the best book Marvel's put out in the last decade.

>>15755791
Aw geez, you just had to remind me about SP//dr. If any alternate reality deserved to be explored more than the ones they chose, it's that one.

>>15758366
I don't know how to break this to you, anon, but you are unequivocally and objectively wrong.

>>15759309
Looks kind of like a Titan from Destiny. Just lacking the little energy horns erupting out of his faceplate.

>>15751612
Mm. Not bad. The random gray panels on the back are a little off-putting, but I think I like it.

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>>15729561
Ironically, Phil Saunder's original draeing and fan attempts at rendering the Mark XLV are much more human male anatomy-friendly.

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>>15760884
Phil Saunder's original concept art.

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>>15760884
Ah, knew I had a higher resolution of this.