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Why is he the final boss of Zeta Gundam? He has absolutely no

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Why is he the final boss of Zeta Gundam? He has absolutely no connection to Kamile at all. Couldn't Tomino have just turned Jerid into Cyber-Newtype and given him a super special mobile suit that sill gets wave-rider crashed and Kamile's brain fried instead?
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>>15635810
Because it seems like they wanted a bigger, badder villain to swoop in and fuck everything up while also giving the Titans a way to stay in the game and avoid getting curbstomped.
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>>15635810
I'm glad you don't write mecha anime
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Anon, not every antagonist needs to have a connection with the protagonist. Hell, in some works the antagonist never even sees the protagonist.
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i liked how that nigga makes the boy with a girls name in to a papaya lol.
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Jerid's whole point is to be kind of pathetic and ultimately easily defeated and forgotten.
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Scirocco was a vision of Kamille's potential future as a jaded cynic. Scirocco never had a Fa or lost his Fa.
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>>15635810
Hot Jupiter Man Penetrated By Young Newtype Twink
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>>15635870
>papaya
>implying Kamiyu is a fruit

Kamille is a vegetable's name, and he's a vegetable!
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>>15635810
Because Scirocco represents how (((Jupiter))) is more or less behind most non-Zeon fuckery and controlled opposition in UC Gundam
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>>15635810
>why doesn't this all fit together neatly like a generic YA novel?
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So what if they had no direct connection? It's a war. do you think the Navy seals who busted in and perforated Osama Bin Laden's brown ass were hot blooded rivals with him since grade school?
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>>15636313
>Obama and Osama are good friends since grade school
FUND IT
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Final boss doesn't have to be connected to the protag. However, he is responsible for seducing Reccoa to the Titans side which really pissed Kamille off. Kamille also hated how he manipulated his newtype minions into risking their lives for him.
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He's everything that Kamille's final cynical revelation about newtypes enveloped. He uses his powers only to incite war for his own purposes, exploiting others, and pretty much shows off how terrible humanity is even if they evolved and have the potential to instantly understand one another.

It was neat how he didn't push the idea that newtypes at their core weren't anything better than humans, and probably even worse.
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>>15636047

>Jupiter controls the Federation
>Anaheim controls Zeonic remnants
>every post-OYW conflict is a proxy war between moon capitalists and space rapists living in the space boonies
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>>15637015

Anaheim doesn't control Zeon remnants, they are Zeon remnants.
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He's a great foil to Kamille. Both extremely powerful newtypes and very autistic, but Kamille uses it for the forces of good which fucks him in life and in love, while Scirocco does the opposite and actually does pretty well for himself at the expense of others.

Kamille is like a Newtype that is all emotion while Scirocco is a Newtype dead to emotions.
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>>15637015
If anything, post-OYW conflicts are proxy wars between Von Braun moon capitalists and Granada moon capitalists. Plus, if you want to go by Crossbone, Jupiter's emperor was incredibly buttmad at the Federation because they arranged his marriage.
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>>15636433
>>15636454
>>15637189
Scirocco didn't even believe in the power of Newtypes. Even at the end as Kamille's bio sensor is firing up Scirocco just dismisses it as some bullshit that isn't in any way relevant compared to mobile suit ability.

Which again is a link to Kamille and Scirocco because they're both MS designers.

Though you also have that talk between katz and sarah where he's basically just like "Just let Kamille kill this shithead so he can join the newtype afterlife and stop fucking up this world"
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>>15635810
Jerid did get the Baund Doc, which is a special newtype use prototype. And he was piloting fancy prototypes or new releases throughout the show anyways.
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>>15637189
>Sarah's death
>Katz: Even that person can easily merge like we do.

>>15638926
>Newtype master race ranting
>psychic battle with Haman
>Kamille: Neither Newtypes nor Cyber-Newtypes are really able to make a difference.

Neither of you are accurate.
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lmao that alien died by a watermelon LOL!
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>>15638926
>Scirocco didn't even believe in the power of Newtypes
>power of Newtypes
Surely you mean he didn't believe in the potential of NTs to bring peace and understanding, right? Otherwise how would he not believe in their powers yet use space magic bullshit to make Kamille retarded?
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>>15643273
he doesn't, he explicitly tells kamille who is going super saiyan
>yeah whatever faggot the O has like 6 arms come at me
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>>15643314
He believes in it just fine, he just doesn't see why it'd have anything to do with MS combat.

This is one of the things A New Translation completely fucks up. The original conversation goes like this:

>K: You could never understand the power flowing through my body!
>S: So? What good will power in your body do against a mobile suit?
>K: GRRR
>F: Normally that would be the case, but the Zeta Gundam is a machine that can harness that power!
>S: Was that's a woman's voice...?

A New Translation cuts off after Kamille's growling (presumably because they didn't want to show Rosamia?), which makes the conversation come across as if Kamille is agreeing with Scirroco that the ghost power he's juicing on is actually useless in this case. It's an extraordinarily dumb change.
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>>15643362
well yea he believes in it in the sense he knows newtype powers are a thing, I mean he doesn't believe it's significant enough to overcome being outgunned, screw the power of friendship i have 4 beam sabers
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Kamille and Scirocco are thematically connected, as they both represent how Char's and his father's belief in Newtypes was based on a flawed premise.

Both Kamille and Scirocco are gifted Newtypes with talent for piloting and ability to design their own machines, which holds up with the belief that Newtypes are special.

But Kamille isn't wise and calm like Lalah, and his abilities only make him suffer more during battles, which leads to his comatose state at the end.

Scirocco had all the wisdom and control over his emotions, but he was a sinister manipulator who was using his powers to manipulate and hurt people.

In the end, people becoming Newtypes won't bring salvation to the mankind. In the end, they are still humans - they can be flawed, or downright evil.

But Char couldn't accept that.
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>>15643392
>But Char couldn't accept that.
I don't think he ever got the chance to in Zeta
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Why'd they have to make it political?
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