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7 Days until Twilight Axis

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If it ends up being successful will we get more more short webisodes like this? I wonder much much money went into this.
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>>15619524
I'm sure even a small project like this would still cost at least a million bucks. They'll make it back before long, anyway.

What people don't seem to realize is even if this show tanks people will still buy gunpla from other shows so they're really risking next to nothing.
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>>15619524
I forgot all about this. Hope my sinus pains will have cleared up by then.
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>>15619524
I would guess that since it's 20 minutes or so in total it'd cost as much as a regular anime episode would.

/m/ likes to call regular Gundam just "toy commercials", but apart from the meta series like the Gunpla Builders and Build Fighters ones, Twilight Axis is one of the few Gundam animations that is genuinely just a toy commercial. From the top of my head, the only other plain toy commercial Gundam animations were the Astray shorts for SEED.
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Will this be like Origin or Thunderbolt where I have to wait seven years before I can watch it all, or is it a one, and done?
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Gundam series are defined by gunpla sales, all this has is the Tristan which defied all expectations and actually sold well. However, everything else is old recolored P-Bandai kits.
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6 Days
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Hmm... Arlette is with Char... Damn, he got another one.
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>>15619606
Five three minute episodes and one five minute episode, all looking like a slideshow so I wouldn't expect month long waits.
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For short gundam anime I recommend 'More Information About the Universal Century'. I just watched it and it has some neat info about the OYW
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>>15619524
> I wonder much much money went into this.
One dollar tops.
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>>15620084
Can you or anybody to be honest explain what Johny Ridden is?
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>>15620084
Why Char looks like Anavel Gato?
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お前ら薄汚い外人共はガンダムなど見なくていい
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>>15620351
He's an Ace Zeonic pilot who used to pilot in the Chimera corps, and for god knows what reason, lust for Kycillia.
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>>15619647
Is there anything to back this up? All I've seen are a few photos of dozens of Tristan kits sitting on shelves, one even had a few Alex kits mixed in. I know some Japs have been going nuts with modding the kit to have modern articulation but they're really few and far between considering the amount of effort needed. Frankly I just don't want the Tristan to sell well anyway because between it and the p bandai zaku iii Twilight Axis has had shamefully bad Gunpla releases.
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5 Days
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>>15620430
In japan a lot of people picked it up on release because they were thinking "it can't be as bad as advertised" and also because a lot of people are ironicaly buying so they can say " look at me i have an opinion btw subscribe to my blog/youtube/twitter"

The tristan was always advertised as using the old hguc alex in promo materials, so this particular characteristic shouldn't be a surprise.
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>>15620349
>One dollar tops.

I think you're 99 cents too generous man.
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>>15619606
I think they said one episode per week
So the whole thing should be over in like 6 or 7 weeks
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>>15619524
>>15620015
>>15621629

The moment you realize that they have already showed a whole episode by releasing these teasers.
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>>15622848
Really makes you think
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>>15620430
the releases have no budget associated with them because the total run time of the OVA is 5 minute episodes that add up to like 25 minutes.
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>>15622784
Oh cool, I'll watch it weekly then.
Thanks for the info.
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I actually really like the idea of conceptual shorts. Stargazer (albeit twice as long as TwilightAxis) was amazing and I've heard good things from Thunderbolt.
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4 Days
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It's out for the Gundam Fanclub members
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>>15620411
>for god knows what reason, lust for Kycillia
In Johnnyriddenvision, Kycillia is moe.

Fuck, I wish they'd just straight adapt MSV-R for a TV series using the GBF or G-Reco animators.

>>15624586
I don't, they're often things that could have been amazing if more time had been put into them. Stargazer and Thunderbolt could have been some of the best things to happen to Gundam if they'd had double their actual runtime so that they could develop their story and characters. As they are, they're somewhat pretty series.

The irony of Twilight Axis is that like F91, it'll be another case of "what could have been".
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>>15619524
we need to bury Iron Menstruation so I care if it makes money
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>>15629092
When i watched 0079 for the first time I thought Kycilia was kinda hot.
Also fuck you, sometimes less is more in regards to Gundam OVAs.

>>15629368
And just fuck you in general for shitting up /m/. I dropped IBO early on and its time for you to drop this meme, for the sake of /m/
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>>15629603
>And just fuck you in general for shitting up /m/. I dropped IBO early on and its time for you to drop this meme, for the sake of /m/
When Lauren Orsini gives a legit apology to the gundam fandom for spewing wrong information, ANN gets decent reviewers for the mecha anime, admits IBO was a bad entry, and corrects wrongdoing it did to G-Reco. Until that very nanosecond no dice, bub.
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>>15629605
You're not even being amicable, you're just an asshole.
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>>15629605
NONE OF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH 4CHAN.
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>>15629605
Just fucking stop already, its not funny, its not annoying. Youre just spewing a bland shitpost at this point
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>purple byarlant is p-bandai
well the only thing I cared about is dead. hopefully Zeta byarlant will be regular release.

Also I hope purple byarlant isn't a super jobber. cause this series being 24 minutes I could see it getting 3 minutes tops and then dying.
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>>15629605
>people need to STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Holy shit anon, you literally reeee'd. Like I know fags make jokes about autism and screeching but you're literally a fucking screeching squeaker aren't you?

Do your parents know what you're doing on the internet? You're clearly not old enough, or at least mentally capable, to be using a computer without supervision.

Reported for underage b&.
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>>15629605
I really wish I knew what level of powerful autism makes you keep going.
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>>15629605
ANN is pretty much mostly non for people who share our autis/m/, so why does it fucking matter. Why does anyone here over the age of 12 give a shit about what some writer on a mainstream anime site, said about some fucking show.
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>>15630765
>Why does anyone here over the age of 12 give a shit about what some writer on a mainstream anime site, said about some fucking show.
But no one here over the age of 12 gives a shit, anon.

Get what I'm saying?
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>>15630745
Your insults do not phase anyone, ice cream sandwich.
>>15630746
Doctors said I donot have it, checkmate lord of the mouth.
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>>15630784
So they had to check?
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>>15630785
I checked myself because I am old enough to chug beer.
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>>15630745
He did not REEEEEEEE though, you are just too ill minded.
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>>15630745
I will squek for you anon, want to go deaf?
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>>15630792
If you've checked yourself, you're making an excellent job of wrecking yourself.
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>>15619531
This. People fail to realize that shows like this are like American Cartoons after Reagan deregulated the market, they exist just to sell gunpla and figures.
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>>15630784
>>15630792
>>15630796
>>15630805
>BTFO'd so hard he had to samefag
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>>15619524

It just looks boring. A boring Gundam vs a red Zaku III. Is there even anything weird or interesting about this? Some random grunt we haven't seen before?
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>>15630745
You have autism tourettes.
>>15630847
Illegitimate president Trump, please.
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>>15631001
I rest my case.
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>>15630888
Purple Jegans with DBZ scouters
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>>15631044
>Purple Jegans with DBZ scouters
That we'll probably never get kits of.
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>>15631052
There's only 4 mobile suits in this anime
And they are the only ones that didn't get a model kit
Maybe later
The Byarlant just got announced a while after the Tristan and Zaku so theres a chance
>inb4 p-bandai
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>>15631025
No rekt here, Spicer
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>>15631077
Except your anus after getting called out and BTFO'd
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>>15631072
I think what's been going on with the kits so far is pretty telling of Bamco's expectations of the show.
The only regular release kit is the Tristan, which is cheaply made and uses recycled parts from a far too old kit which lead to a disastrous reception on release. Bandai wasn't expecting much from this kit as evident from the half-assed marketing and just not giving a shit about it's poor sales and reception. Meanwhile they're pushing a bunch of new releases, completely unrelated to the brand new show, hard.
All the others are P-Bandai only released recolors of kits as old if not older than the one the Tristan's reused parts came from. Kits like this are more often than not p-bandai exclusive specifically because they don't expect them to sell well.

If Bandai doesn't seem to have much faith in Twilight Axis, why should we?
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>>15631122
Nope, my anus is fine and you're the one BTFO
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>>15631213
>literally responds with "no u"
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>>15631220
Yup, you got BTFO.
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>>15631220
you seem upset you lost
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>>15631240
>>15631240
Oh man I'm going to point to this thread any time someone questions what the fuck is wrong with you.
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>>15631251
>this is stated by the guy that lost
Irony
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Please be good.
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>>15632240

>2/3-minute episodes

I doubt that.
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>>15632240
It's a fucking commercial.
Not even joking this guy had it right >>15619535


It's going to be bad, or not leave any impression at all.

See
>>15630831
>>15631163
>>15629092
>The irony of Twilight Axis is that like F91, it'll be another case of "what could have been".

I assure you that your reaction after the first episode will be "Was that it? Huh."
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People that already seen it are saying the first episode made them cry.
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>>15632409
That bad, huh?
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When is this supposed to be available for American audiences?
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>>15632306
Shut the fuck up.
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>>15631052
Bandai milks Jegans almost as much as they milk Zakus. Difference is that the Jegan variants tend to be P-Bandai.
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>>15632616
Sup Sunrise
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>>15632409
really? what happened
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How many hours left?
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>>15633273
it's going to be a no mecha action segment, don't bother
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>>15632409
Oh sure
Its just like when they say a horror movie was so scary that people ran away from theaters, or they were so grossed out by it that they shit and puked all over the theater
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>>15633273
It airs at noon japan time.
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>>15633304
So 30 mins left?
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It's up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zax3LcPvfsA
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>>15633388
WHAT THE FUCK

IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING
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>>15633388
wow that was convoluted. 7 different time points going on at once, 0079 char making an appearance and then a whole lot of nothing else.

at least the tristan looks good. unlike the HG...
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>>15633388
The fuck was that?

That was about as much effort as they put into the HG Tristan.
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>>15633388
>all those sliding stills
Well, at least there were high levels of detail.

Also
>BUY THE TRISTAN, FAGGOTS
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>>15633432
i was under the impression it was a dummy balloon not a real jegan
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>>15633432
It's a dummy balloon you fuck
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>>15633432
P-Bandai Jegan dummy balloon when? They appeared in CCA, Twilight Axis, and I think Unicorn.
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How do I download this with subs?
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>>15633388
This is actually worse than I could possibly have imagined. I don't even like Gundam as a franchise, but this is just sad. Why did they think this would sell toys?
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>>15633388
wow. lets hope the full episode is pieced together better.
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Oh I know why I have a boner

Fucking demon rising up vibes. Plus the eye light effect is just threatening as fuck. MG WHEN
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>>15633442
Grab youtube-dl, fire up the command line, and add "--write-sub --sub-lang en."
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>>15633447
>Replace Quess with this semon demon
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>>15633388

JUST
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>>15633447
Yeah i really like Alex MkII. hopefully it doesn't job too hard but I'm not expecting much.
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>>15633388

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH no wonder the toys are shit, Banrise had ZERO faith in this garbage!
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>>15633388
>Video is actually available in my country
What the fuck that's weird
Also, the pacing of this was somehow worse than the second half of F91, this was completely shit, literally nothing made sense
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That certainly was something.
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>>15633480
You have to be a NewType to understand. I am sorry you are not a NewType
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>>15633484
?
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This is embarrassing. Fan animations are better than this.
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I liked the music
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>bitch about animation
This is why they should keep Gundam stories in novel format. Fuck animation since big mouths are too cheap to fund that shit in the first place
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>tfw I was one of those that was optimistic about this and wanted to give it a chance
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>>15633388
They weren't kidding when they said these were going to be short. I've taken shits longer than this.

The Tristan was pretty sexy though.
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pacing was bad but I enjoyed it for the concept above all
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I mean I didn't expect anything at all from something with a 3 minute run time, but it felt like a haphazardly put together PV for something.
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>>15633388
Just wait for the inevitable bluray remaster compilation movie
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>>15633448
Ended up having to stream it from youtube because I got a WARNING: no sub-lang en. for <youtube link>
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>literally nothing

Crossbones adaptation when?
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>>15633439
Bandai could literally sell a HG dummy balloon kit and people would buy it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zax3LcPvfsA Is that really all there is to it?
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>>15633545
Never, unfortunately. The suits are allergic to anything Late-UC. The closest we'll get to new Late-UC material are things like Unicorn and Twilight Axis: Ultimately pointless stories hamfistedly shoehorned between CCA and F91 that try to seem important but really have no lasting effect in the overall timeline.
And whatever Hasegawa puts out, but none of his stuff is getting animated.
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>>15633564
>The suits are allergic to anything Late-UC.
Why though?
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>>15633388
How the fuck was the Sazabi in one piece?
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Sucks to be a Zeon

You thought the White Devil wasn't going to hunt you down now. But you were wrong, Oh so very wrong
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>>15633565
Because they already made kits for the titular Gundams
Meaning theres nothing to gain from an anime adaptation, this also applies to other sides stories, like Blue Destiny or Rise from the Ashes for example
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Poor Se Jun Kim.
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>>15633462
It's a commercial for a book
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>>15633388
>pink girl had some encounter with Char and Lalah when she was younger where he saved her life
>she and the dude at the dry cleaners are zeon remnants who have retired to civilian life?
>suit guy asks them to go to Axis for some reason
>there's a Gundam there, implying the Feds want something in Axis, and a red Zaku III comes in to combat it
That's about it, right?
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Art is nice with some bursts of cool effects animation. The directing is a fucking mess though. Studios really should stop giving top animators directing work, nothing good has ever come out of such efforts.
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>>15633614
Oh the dry cleaner dude?
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>o-HiYo
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>>15633606
The video description literally does a far better job explaining the story than the actual episode
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>>15633606
Pink girl is actually Neo Zeon engineer
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>>15633613
>Studios really should stop giving top animators directing work
You know what they say about being promoted to your highest position of incompetence. Though I do doubt that there was a director who could tell this story well in the extremely short time allotted this project. This probably would be cool as a feature length movie, but 20 minutes isn't enough time to set up characters, have a plot, and get a climactic fight in.
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>>15633426
Why the fuck do people not understand Japanese.

This has always been advertised as an adaptation of an extremely short one shot light novel. The mere fact they even made the Tristan NOT P-Bandai is stupid given the episode count makes this a barely 25 min run time.
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>>15633433
its a garbage model!
Its a sweet looking suit that got a garbage garbage model
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>>15633642
>This has always been advertised as an adaptation of an extremely short one shot light novel.

Everybody knows that, but it's still a poor adaption. It's just not good.
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>>15633388
Wow, that was more breakneck that G-reco.
I hope this makes a lot more sense when it's all out.
Felt like I watched a PV instead of an episode.
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Someone said this had good animation...my sides.
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>>15633624
CUTE
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The art is great but jesus, the animation. I think the story is still interesting.
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>>15633632
Which source is this from?
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Basically done by 1 person
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>>15633714
>one person really wants to do the project
>literally does all the work himself
>everyone shits on him
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>>15633606
I think the suit guy is some civi or fed related group asking for a guide to Axis, but once there they run into the Busch Concern's twin aces who operate the Tristan (Gundam) and Isolde (Byarlant), made from decommissioned MS that were destined for the scrap heap.
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>>15633719
Feels bad man
I wish Sunrise didn't shafted this series so hard
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>>15633714
They should really have marketed it as such.
People are naturally more charitable if they know its a 1-man and/or amateur production.
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>>15633741
They did market it as such.
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Gonna go out on a limb and say all the people who think this is bad thought G-Reco was good
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>>15633741
I wonder if there will be enough hate on this that breaks Sejoon Kim and stops him from touching Gundam after this.
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>>15633741
It's basically a vanity project/fanservice project, I mean it's only being released on their fanclub app in Japan
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Japan seems to really love the 2 char scenes.
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>>15633714
>Kim Se Jun bailed out of GBF to work on G-Reco
>Tomino didn't give him any relevant work
>Now he's stuck doing shit like this
Fuck this industry man
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>>15633789
damnit he was wasted on G-Reco, they should have had him work on IBO
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>>15633796
What a disgusting post
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>>15633565

Because Late-UC drastically underperformed 20-ish years ago with F91 and V, and executives are deathly afraid of revisiting it for fear of it impacting their profit margins.

Least, so I reckon.
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This would have worked so much better in Thunderbolt's format. The novel is 4 chapters long and they're not that long
http://www.zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=3959
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>>15633388
This is some kind teaser, right?
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The novel isn't even finished yet. And it's page on yatate.net wasn't updated since February. I wonder if they'll ever bother to continue with it. Since, as I recall, this scene with Sazabi wreckage isn't even in the novel yet.
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https://nyaa.si/view/932938
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>>15633815
No that's episode 1. That's Kim's way to tell a story.
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Foreigners who want to work in animation or fashion industry in Japan will be granted permanent Japanese citizenship after staying there for 1 year.
http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXLASFS21H5R_R20C17A6PP8000/
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>>15633388
3 minutes worth of out of sequence scenes is one way to make if this is part of the canon timeline inconclusive.

Just remember that just because you hate it doesn't make it not canon if it follows the movie timeline.
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>>15633583
I honestly really love the tristan now. The first scary UC mobile suit in a long time. I love the little detail in that clip just at the end where you see his eyes open up and focus on a target.
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>>15633872
A better version of the screen cap.
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>>15633872
The Full Armor Gundam was kinda terrifying
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>>15633660
>Felt like I watched a PV instead of an episode.
That's what it felt like to me too.

I really don't see the point of this, unless they actually intend to properly animate it at some not so distant point and this is just guaging interest for that.

Guess I'll wait for the BD compilation, fuck these 3 minute things (though actual content is probably a lot less since half of it was ident, advertising and credits)
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So where is the novel?
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>>15633889
I don't understand, you're asking for the location of the book?
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>>15633858
ZZ Gundam is still canon to the both movie and tv UC timelines
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>>15633893
Yes I'd like to read the rest of the story
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>>15633889
http://www.zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=3959
But there is not much to read yet.
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>>15633881
I hate it when pilots play with their food like this. I dislike the Jegan funnel rape scene in Unicorn for the same reason; it's a pointless waste of ammo/propellant when a single beam would do the job.
Very pretty to look at, though.
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>>15633926
I bet you dislike Itano Circus as well.
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>>15633931
That would just be heresy, anon.
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>>15633388
the OST is alright
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>>15633872
>scary UC mobile suit
It stood up and shot buildings, in parade colors. There's scary mobile suits and Tristan is not fucking one of them.
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>>15633872
>Scary

It's a glorified Alex that's done nothing but walk forward a bit, and shoot a few times. Not exactly scary. Looks like a bog standard Gundam. I like the design, but scary it is not.
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I could not comprehend a single thing about the first episode.
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>>15633796
Lol......
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>>15633885

Tell me again how Sunrise isn't talking Gundam fans for fucking idiots.
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>>15633388
>just 1 minute longer than its PV
>shove 5 seconds worth of Gunpla ad
>in a fucking 3 minutes long gunpla ad
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>>15619524
This is the future of Gundam. One thirty second slideshow a year featuring the story of yet another Zeon uprising.
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>>15633714
So they are exploiting one man. Great!
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>>15633796
>one of the best looking shows of the decade with top notch talent top to bottom
>wasted
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>>15633789

What if he's a fan of Ark Performance's work?

That might explain why he's on it and why it's getting this short ONA, despite the novel having only a few chapters published.
>>
The R Jaja most likely was made for Haman but remained unused, just as the Rebawoo was for Full Frontal and the Red Zaku III for Char?

It might just be a play on the fact that Gihren's Greed Axis no Kyoui had Neo Zeon Char starting off in a standard Zaku III.
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>>15634140
Kim was wasted as in he did jack shit on G-Reco
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>>15633881
Seeing that MS flail like a human is so dumb lol
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>>15633926
>play with their food like this
They're fighting in a high speed three-dimensional environment; you don't get clean kills. You shoot at it a bunch until it's dead.

Look at WWII dogfights, planes shred the shit out of each other because it's hard as shit to hit another moving plane with a gun, so you hose down that whole area.
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>>15619524
Arlette's arc had potential to be a full blown OVA.
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>>15633789
>>Now he's stuck doing shit like this

This isn't that bad.
Think about how much Sunrise must trust him to even let him basically have his own little mini project he more or less does by himself AND release it under their license.
>Hey, I kind of want to do this. Nothing big, just me and a few guys, about 20 minutes.
>Sure, here's a few hundred million yen, knock yourself out. We'll just recycle some old kits to make it back.

Even if this isn't a high budget series, how many people can do something like this in the current economic climate in Japan? Not many. Sunrise is rich as fuck from Love Live! bux and they don't give out vanity projects out willy nilly.
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>>15633447
I'm pretty sure they fucked up the scale in that shot
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>>15634323
they did haha idiots
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>>15619524
I know I'm a huge slowpoke, but here's a link to the ''full'' episode:
https://ww2.gogoanime.io/mobile-suit-gundam-twilight-axis-episode-1

What are your impressions? I think this could've been made into a great series with different approach.
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>>15634308
>how many people can do something like this in the current economic climate in Japan? Not many.

A series of short episodes? A lot can actually. There are several every season. They often have decent to good animation as well because they aren't trying to stretch out a budget or animate a lot of material in a short production time.
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>>15634308
>how many people can do something like this in the current economic climate in Japan?
Quite a few. That's basically what Getsuyoubi no Tawawa was.
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>>15633714
>Character designer
>Mech designer
>Storyboard
>Animation director
>Key framer
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>>15633388
>All those abrupt nonlinear scene transitions
>Innocent Zeeks slaughtered by destruction incarnate, aka the Gundam
God that was fucking garbage
>>
Better than IBO?
Y/N
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>>15634544
>One 3 minute episode
At least wait till the whole thing airs you fag.
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>>15634535
What Zeeks? The only two Zeeks that were present were the two former Zeon engineers and they survived. The Feddies were the ones getting slaughtered.
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>>15634235
He's talking about the FA-78, where it waits until the Zaku brings out a new gun and snipes the gun out of his hand until the Zaku has no weapons left, then closes in for a drawn out melee kill.

If it can snipe the gun out of its hand, it can clearly snipe the cockpit itself, but it chose not to.
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>>15619524
Wait what, will there be any Banaghers or cameos from Unicorn? Holding out for an impossible happening I am
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>>15634578
idk but they already had 2 char cameos and a lalah cameo
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>>15634308
Teekyuu's about to have its ninth season.
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Just gonna leave this here.
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>>15634850
I'm sorry, I don't know what you meant by this. Is the price reduction remarkable?
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>>15633388
Definitely made the right choice to make this my first Gundam anime
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>>15634864
I think he means the 2 out of 5 stars it has based on reviews.
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>>15634873
Certainly a better choice than IBO.
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>>15634876
Oh. That could've been clearer.
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>>15634153
Source? Prove it? ??
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I read what zeonic has up

Basically this is just world building for late UC.

The two main things that Twilight Axis is doing for the overall UC Narrative is
-Expanding upon the elimination of psychoframe by the Federation, explaining why it's not seen again in UC (Until Angel Halo?)
-Revealing the Ronah's origins and setting up for F91 (Frontier Side is under construction)

Did any of this need to be explained? I don't think so, but it's neat world building that avoids ridiculous amounts of retcons like OYW era material does
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>>15635034
the novel was decent, but the ova won't even scratch the surface with its length. they haven't published any chapters ever since the anime was announced, and from what I heard it's been dropped in favor of the ova, which makes absolutely no sense.

the story had potential, and I'd love to see where they were going with the whole ronah family and frontier side thing. it'd be nice to acknowledge late uc, specially f91
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>>15635063
The OVA's just a commercial, it never intended to even scratch the surface.

Buy the fucking recycled kits goyim
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>>15633388
This was such an awful idea.
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>>15633388
A teaser trailer? Now, where is the full thing?
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>>15633845
>That's Kim's way to tell a story.

Who?
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>>15633632
So is Twilight Axis done by Ark Performance?
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>>15634147
Ark Performance deserves the Unicorn treatment though.
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>>15634577
He was clearly sending a message to shit taste legless anon.
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>>15635126
>Ark Performance deserves the Unicorn treatment though
I dunno, I liked the battles in Unicorn - and Ark Performace' manga have some great battles that deserve animating; but so much was changed in the story of Unicorn for the worse. I wouldn't really care to see that happen.

Since Ark Performance place so much emphasis on slow story telling and world building I'd much rather see their stuff get the Turn A treatment - maybe not that many episodes but the same rate of pacing. I wonder what would happen if Johnny Ridden ever got adapted, if they'd have to do the obligatory shoe in Gundam for Johnny to be testing early in the show (Gerbera Gundam since it's Zeek tech they investigate?).

It's a shame their Gundam stuff doesn't get more attention.
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>>15634147
If he's a fan he would actually make a watchable product
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>>15635034
>Expanding upon the elimination of psychoframe
The fact that it's a dangerous, haphazardous, and unreliable gimmick weapon ith an extremely narrow niche that requires extremely rare space autists or surgically enhanced and mentally unstable cyber-autists to use? Who the fuck would honestly consider such a thing to be more practical than something like the F90 series and its descendants?
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Wasn't the Sazabi thrashed by the Nu? Why did it leave such a relatively intact wreckage
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>>15635568
It's a Zaku III
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>>15633546
You wouldn't? It'd be awesome to be able to recreate the scenes in which they are used. It's like you don't even know how to diorama.
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>>15633754
They're both good, you fucking retard.
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>>15633881
>some douchebag who can't shoot for shit and wasted all his ammo on a single zaku
>scary

>not facing the white devil with several squads worth of MS and being picked off like insects while you listen to the counting in between lengths of static
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>>15635114
The animator/animation director who did most of the best animated scenes in Build Fighters
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>>15635568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svsuitgT9ro

It only lost the left arm, the left front skirt armor panel, and the left cable to the head.
>>
people at reddit are saying this has good animation
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>>15635607
t. butthurt zeekshit
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>>15635618
hah I saw that too wtf is wrong with people?
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>>15635618
>reddit
>>15635633
>wtf

/m/ is a shit board
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>>15635607
>entire squad's piloting a fresh off the line Doms
>chasing that damned Trojan Horse
>everyone's heard stories about that white ship, and its devil pilot
>command won't give you a straight answer on how many MS it's defeated
>one guy says he caught a glimpse of the captain's files and knows for sure
>no one believes him
>no one wants to believe him

>finally corner them at Side 6
>they're badly outnumbered
>we'll get the first shots off because we're already out of the no-fire zone
>this's the end for them, certainly
>lots of joking over comms
>everyone wants to be the one to sink the Horse and its devil
>can tell everyone's still trembling with fear

>Zeon Zum Deikun what the fuck's going on
>no one said Trojan Horse had such a strong AA defense
>how in Garma's name do those red ones move so fast
>how the fuck do they have TWO cannons AND beam weapons
>when did that white one get behind our li--FUCK, HE GOT DAVE
>MARK
>PHIL
>I CAN'T EVEN GET A LOCK ON HIM
>HE'S HEADING FOR THE SHIP
>FRED, CAN YOU GET HIM? YOU'RE RIGHT BEHI--
>HE JUST POINTED HIS RIFLE BEHIND HIS BACK AND KILLED FRED WITHOUT LOOKING

>WHO THE FUCK IS COUNTING ON THE OVER THE COMMS
>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU COUNT--

>Five.
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>>15635618
>>15635633
Maybe they mean the art itself? Because the visuals are nice. But if they really do mean animation, that's just retarded. This is YEEEART-tier animation.
>>
Why is the model kit so bad? Just curious since I like the suit's design and would like to get a gunpla of it.
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>>15635618
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

SHIT BARELY EVEN MOVED
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>>15635196
>I dunno, I liked the battles in Unicorn - and Ark Performace' manga have some great battles that deserve animating; but so much was changed in the story of Unicorn for the worse. I wouldn't really care to see that happen.

Alright bad wording, I mainly meant the budget anon. The budget.

Ark Performance doesn't deserve anything like Twilight Axis or even Thunderbolt S1 with the tiny ass shorts, it should be at minimum 2 full seasons.

They just tell the Gundam story better, that's it. Everyone they touch upon magically gains like 30 points of IQ at least. Even a fat fuck like Gopp went from a literal who in 0079 to being an interesting parent, and Yazan is clearly tsundere as fuck. Can you believe the guy has less mook kills in Johnny Ridden than he has named kills in Zeta?
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>>15635725
It reuses an important runner from the old hguc alex so it ends up with poor articulation, underdetailed exterior, and blocky proportions. The zaku III Kai is even worse as it doesn't even use any new parts at all, its just the two ancient hguc zaku III's kitbashed together with a geara doga beam rifle thrown in.
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>>15633881

This is why Zaku's should have a self-destruct function. Could have taken out the gundam when he came in close instead of going for the kill.
>>
The only good thing on the Tristan is the head.
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>>15634323
>>15634359
Tristan looks to be about Psyco gundam's size in that frame
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>>15635972
I want to like Tristan but its just too much work to make a shitty old mold up to par with modern gunpla. It feels like bandai intentionally made the tristan and zaku III kai shit to accurately represent the small 3minute shorts done by really animation small team.
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>>15634589
Can we hope for a Marida cameo then what are the chances

where is my nigga hyperion
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>>15634535
>subhuman Zeeks being sent back to Hell where they belong
Oh, maybe I'll have to watch this sooner.
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>>15634850
Wow, so this is a year 2000 standard HGUC, we have regressed.
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>>15635551
wonder weapons son
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>>15636381
Just no.
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>>15619524
Does anyone have that screencap of Char and Lalah

Or just the Lalah one?
>>
http://schizophonic9.com/re4/hguc_tristan.html

Review is up.

Construction is identical to the Alex.
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>>15633926
>>15634235
Reminds me of this WW2 story where an American fighter pilot saw a German fighter who would strafe parachutists who bailed out of downed aircraft and intentionally picked away at his plane in order to get him to bail out and then proceeded to pump his parachuting ass full of lead from 8x .50 cal machine guns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8LVlYJ5eJU
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>>15636405
They reused the same mold
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>>15633388
The director of this seems to be fucking up on purpose. Other than that the animation, design, and soundtrack were pretty good.
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>>15634850
They need to recall this and apologise with a new mould as long with a new Zaku III. Zaku III still needs RE 1/100 to fight ZZ ver.ka
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>>15633894
Nope.

>>15635645
>Using Doms in space.
That's how you got Dave, Mark, Phil and Fred killed. You had them drown in space.
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>>15635645
>Amuro leaves his comms on a general broadcast so that zeeks can hear him calmly counting the number of MS he's shot down in real-time.
>MFW
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>>15636413
In a documentary there were two british air fighters and one said he always let the guys go cause he didn't want to kill anyone really. Another guy said fuck the germans kill em all.
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>>15636588
The Polish/Czech pilots flying for Britain were notorious for downing pilots that ejected from their aircraft.

Doing a close fly-by to cause the parachute to malfunction and make the pilot drop to his death was the preferred method.
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>>15636592
Fucking Slavs.
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>>15635645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCMjAE1aya4

Fighting Amuro is like facing a force of nature. Gundam isn't just the dam. It's the flood as well.
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>>15635633
>Reddit
>people
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>>15636080
That's more or less how they took out the initial flagship Gundam in SEED.
>tfw they then proceeded to literally treat Kira like Jesus instead of handing the MC role over to Athrun, the true protagonist of the show.
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>>15636329
>Marida cameo
I was like "wtf isn't she like super dead?" but then I remembered Lalah has been dead since 1980 or so and still makes appearances.
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>>15636685
>Lalah has been dead since 1980 or so and still makes appearances.
Oh fucking nuts the realizating hit me real hard nigga thanks for the encouragement ;___:
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>>15633596
That's modern day Gundam for you. Take a reasonably talented mecha animator, shove him/her here and you're guaranteed a poor result.
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>>15636394
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>>15636901
Oh nuts, this is beautiful thank you kind anon
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>>15633388
Holy shit that editing.
>>
>all these complaints about reusing/minor retooling to a mold
wow you guys would shit your pants if you heard about Transformers
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>>15637274.
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>>15637360
I'm sorry, are people not complaining about reusing/retooling a mold?
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>>15637416
The problem is that the mold is old and wasn't very good to begin with. They also half assed the new parts too.
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>>15637432
Yeah like Transformers Universe or early Classics.
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>>15637416
Because Bandai literally reuses molds all the time. There are enough variants of the RX-78-2 and Zaku molds to blot out the sun, to say nothing of how they milk the Unicorn. They've been milking the 2.0 MG frames forever. Fuck, the Origin and IBO lines have mostly been retools of the Origin Zaku and Gundam/Graze inner frames, but no one minds because those are damn good.

The only reason people care about this is because they could have reused a newer mold (like the Revive Mk-II). Also because it looks like garbage.
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>>15637450
Yeah, the thing is the ones they've been reusing have basically been good from the start and still, more or less, hold up to 2017.
The Zaku III and Tristan really don't.
>>
>>15637529
>>15637450
Oh yeah I guess those ones in particular are pretty old. I thought the Zaku III looked good before I saw ZZ and realized it didn't have the skirt arms. I guess so long as the plastic's good it's not too bad.
>>
>>15637450
Retooling a mold means you physically alter a mold, as in you literally take the tool (the mill) to the mold, as in you carve a completely new negative space from the same piece of metal. That's not what happened. Bandai made new molds just for the Tristan. Everything is CNC now, they took a computer file and used a computer to carve out a new mold.

The laziness here is in the design, because they probably had the files to create the Alex's molds and it would've been a minimal change. A big change like Mk-II to Tristan would've required actually paying their engineers to make sure the design will pop out of the mold properly.
>>
>>15637450
I like how there's a shit ton of Zaku variants that are mostly the same yet people cream their pants because they have 1 or 2 new parts.
>>
This makes me glad I'm not a gunpla fag.
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>>15636582
>More of Black_Knight's autism
Then 0083 & Sentinel are canon to the Zeta Trilogy
>>
This animated short, being animated, is canon to the main UC continuity.

It also serves as a commercial for the Yatate Bunko publications, further raising their canon status compared to Kadokawa works.
>>
>>15638076
I just hope the LN gets picked back up soon.
>>
The future of Gundam is.

>UC only
>sub 5 minute videos

I guess kids don't like giant robots anymore.

RIP Gundam
>>
>>15638232
They still love giant robots
They just have very short attention spans
>>
Do we really need another 50 episode schlock?
Why doesn't Gundam ever do 1 cour shows?
>>
>>15640064
Shit directors don't know how to make a good show.
>>
>>15640064
They did that. It was called G-Reco. Everyone here bitched about it.
>>
>>15640074
Haven't watched that one yet.
Is it the one that takes place after Turn A?
>>
>>15640116
Yes.
>>
>>15640064
Twilight Axis is something that could very well nicely work within a Thunderbolt December Sky or F91 length format. It's a relatively short story, but Twilight Axis will barely be the length of a single TV episode once they're finished with it.
>>
>>15640168
Even the 4 episode length of a Thunderbolt season could get the job done
What was the point of this show?
>>
>>15640182
Did you not see the 2 char and lalah cameos?
UC fans eat that shit up. OMG CHAR!!!!!!
SIEG ZEON!!!
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>>15640196
The worst part is that I don't think those cameos were part of the original story, I just read the first volume so I could be wrong, but still
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>>15633649
>sweet looking suit
It's like they morphed a Mk 2 and nu gundam together in to a mutant freak, with just a dash of GP01 thrown in the blender too
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>>15637600
Side story material that does not contain contradictory information is considered canon as well. You didn't think this cunning plan through, did you?
>>
>>15633388
Nice trailer, when's the episode itself?
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>>15640074
G-Reco will still 2 cour, you retard
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>>15640064
>all these 50 episode series of filler, padding, and trying to come up with excuses to replace and modify suits so they can move more plastic
>all those 7-12 episode OVAs with breakneck pacing, characters introduced and killed in the same episode, and important plot scenes cut for time
IF ONLY THERE WAS ANOTHER WAY
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>>15640266
>G-Reco will still 2 cour, you retard
What?
>>
>>15640340
A cour is 12 or 13 episodes. G-Reco was 2 cour.
50 episode series are 4 cour.
>>
>>15640285
>IF ONLY THERE WAS ANOTHER WAY

Hire competent writers and animators.
>>
>>15637600
>0083
>not canon
Other than power-level arguments, there's nothing in 0083 that is an issue, and you can work your way around the power-level issue.
>>
>>15640196
I love how SEIG ZEON isn't even a big thing until (at earliest) ZZ.
You just know most of the fags who scream that only watched Unicorn for the pretty colors and deems the OG TV trilogy too old to enjoy.
>>
-not animated because it was meant to be a picture drama
-it's so short because it's meant to be watched when commuting
-not supposed to be commercial at all
>>
>>15640432
To be completely honest it is somewhat realistic that the super secret prototype Gundam Project (whose records were destroyed btw) could be stronger than the mass-produced units from a few years later.

Hell, they really weren't THAT much better. The GP01 just has better thrust than the Zeta IIRC. I remember a scene where Cima's Gelgoog did massive damage to the Zephyranthes without so much as taking a scratch herself.
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>>15640475
>I remember a scene where Cima's Gelgoog did massive damage to the Zephyranthes without so much as taking a scratch herself.
That's because kou had an autism attack and took the GP01 out in to space with ground equipment and without a proper balancing solution for spaceflight
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>>15636587
He does that in Zeonic Front.
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>>15640116
>after
Fuck Tomino. G-reco happened before Turn A
>>
>>15640380
>animators
TIL animators are in charge of story
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>>15640715
>G-reco happened before Turn A
For what purpose?
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>>15640731
There was an interview waaaaaaay back where someone asked Tomino if G-Reco was tied to UC. He said it was after the end of UC. People took that to mean *immediately* after UC, and further took the similar names of nations in G-Reco and Turn-A to mean that the timeline was UC->RC->CC and that Tomino had thrown all the other Gundam shows back out of the timeline. People who don't like UC and CC sharing the same universe as SEED and G ran with this and told fans of "AU" shows to fuck off.
Then Tomino doubled-back on them and said that Reco was after Turn A. So these people, in order to continue to hold their sacred Tomino Gundam above all other shows, have had to resort to attacking Tomino's credibility which is pretty funny when you consider that he's the writer and director of the show that made all the other shows canon (Turn A). Also there are at least a few people who just really really love Turn A to the point that they don't want to think about it's place as "THE END OF ALL GUNDAM" being undone even by its own writer. Also the implication (and word of the designer) that an extra five centuries of technological progress from the moonies means the Turn A is no longer the most advanced Gundam in the franchise.
>>
>>15640447
Does japan think it's shit like we do?
>>
>>15640762
Fucking hell, who gives a shit?
The absolute only time continuity matters is MSG/CCA, Zeta/ZZ, Early UC/Unicorn, and SEED/Destiny.
>>
>>15640789
>who gives a shit?
People who want to be able to claim writer's mandate that their favorite mobile suit is the be-all and end-all bestest.
Personally that's the one and only thing that I like about G-Reco and this whole "500 years" nonsense, it pulled the rug out from under the Turnfags. If we ever get any kind of official word from Sunrise that IBO is centuries after Reco and it was Reco's moonies that got blown up when the moon was damaged, I'll laugh for a week straight.
>>
>>15640762
>So these people, in order to continue to hold their sacred Tomino Gundam above all other shows, have had to resort to attacking Tomino's credibility which is pretty funny when you consider that he's the writer and director of the show that made all the other shows canon (Turn A).

No you fucking fag. It doesn't make sense for turn A to happen before G-reco. Everything before Tomino did that one interview said uc>rc>cc, even side materials from when Turn A came out mention there was a space elevator before the zacktrager.

It has fuck all to do with knocking things out of the canon
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>>15642866
>side material
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>>15640762
>>15640789
>>15640805
Personally I just ignored all these half assed attempts to tie these post UC gundam shows to the UC since they're pretty much AU gundams in all but name. Its like that crazy fanfiction idea Square had to tie FF10 to FF7 by saying they colonized the FF7 planet. They're too different for me to just accept it like that.
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