Patlabor EZY

First The Next Generation finally gets subbed, now a new series. I hope it's still by HEADGEAR.

>>15611307
>The Next Generation finally gets subbed
Wait really?

>>15611316
Yeah, they're not that good, but oh well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7VxsIijZSs

>>15611324
Shiiiiiiiit when did this happen? And why the fuck youtube? I'm not complaining though.

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This is the best news I've heard all week

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>tfw more comfy patlabor in your lifetime

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>tfw I'm watching Patlabor TV right now
God is good

Fucking 2020 guvna

>>15611149

Im all for more patlabor but there are certain questions I have regarding characters and voice actors who are no longer with us

>>15611149
Is it based on TV or ova?

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>>15611833
Which of the voice actors have passed away?
I'm only aware of the villain from the TV version, who was voiced by Bright's VA.
Who else was there?

>>15611338
Seriously, Patlabor is my anime comfort food as well.

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I wouldn't mind more of these guys

Oh boy, more horrible garbage that nobody with taste asked for

>>15611847
Kanuka.

>>15611858
Good thing there are a lot of use tasteless assholes, then.

>>15611857
Same. The reboot was short but comfy and it would be nice to see more of the new crew. Also would be nice to figure out what links they have to the original SV 2.

>>15611867
Life sucks sometimes

>>15611860
Damn, that sucks, but to be fair she already got a replacement character in the TV-verse. If EZY(?) is in the same vein as the live-action series and focuses on a new cast, with cameos and references to the original cast here and there, I don't think it should be that much of an issue.
Considering that it'll most likely be a 12 episode series, I just hope they don't go full muh SERIOUS PLOT, but gives us primarily standalone SoL episodes with maybe a small more serious arc for the last 3 of 4 episodes. Like, almost exactly what the New Files OVA did, where the bulk of the episodes weren't part of a single arc. If it's 24 - 26 then I'd be perfectly fine with several arcs. It just wouldn't be Patlabor without the comfy police SoL comedy episodes.

>>15611895
Pretty much exactly what I'm hoping for out of it.

You can sprinkle some bits of the overarching arc into every episode even, as long as it's not the main focus until the final few eps.

>cgi
>changes for modern and nu audiences
>cliche genderswap
please no
either hand drawn and keep to the original or nothing at all please

>>15612051
There's probably going to be CGI. We can keep bitching but it's not going to stop.

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>>15611895
>>15611860

It's been long enough to where I think it's plenty respectable to replace her, one of those SRW games did but Japan can be weird about this kind of thing

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>everyone conveniently forgetting that Patlabor Reboot featured some of the best use of CGI ever

>>15612283
Granted, it was a short with some talented people behind it, but I would love if the 3DCG in the upcoming one was like this.
Unfortunately given money, scheduling, and staff constraints, I don't think the 3DCG is going to look that good. I hope it will be, but in all likelihood it won't.
Hand drawn is out of the question in this day and age, I'd rather have the Labors be on model than IBO level QUALITY. Whether it's Production I.G or modern Sunrise, 3DCG would be the best option.
Like it or hate it, like gay marriage or "diversity" in media, 3DCG is here to stay.
With the mindset of
>or nothing at all please
we might as well just end anime today.

>>15612383

Since they're 3D models, they can re-use them. That is likely the main purpose for the short. Create some assets that can be re-used, and gauge whether there's enough interest for a full series.

>>15612283
That's not CG, or if it was it was drawn over.

Models have these things called normals that typically point out perpendicular to the surface from which it originates and it's used to determine how light interacts with the surface. Which means you wouldn't get those nice crispy shading as if everything was a cube with perfectly distinct sides, that doesn't seem to make any sense

>>15612283
No

>>15612383
>we might as well just end anime
Don't see the problem

>>15612397
>That's not CG
Are you genuinely blind?

>>15612407
He thinks it was modeled in 3D first and then "rotoscoped"

>>15612429
Either way it'll still be CG - computer generated. How do you think they drew over the model if not on a computer and then inserting it into the scene via computer? It's a stylistic choice, but still CG all the same.

>>15612434

... the fuck I care?

Shit looked great.

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First visual.

fortunately Patlabor TV was so goddamn cheap looking that even CG will look good by comparison

>>15611847
>>15611860
Yamazaki's VA is also dead, but that probably won't be an issue since he never talked anyways

>>15612733
>...
Neck yourself.

>>15612804

Yeah I have to stop and wonder how much these people who complain about CG actually remember about hand drawn stuff. The OVA was mostly pretty good looking but the TV was fugly in places

>>15612434
Threadly reminder that drawn-over-CG has been used in anime since the 80s, the only reason you can tell it's CG in reboot is because they didn't do a good enough job of hiding it, they followed the CG models too closely.

Not as impressive as fully hand drawn animation from a craftsmanship standpoint but when done well using CG frames as a base can look pretty good, CG isn't always bad.

>>15611149
Don't assume the old cast of characters will be back

>>15613149

That's probably for the best anyways

>>15613140
CG is never bad, objectively speaking

>>15613157
As in CG is a tool and a tool can't be bad?

I hope someday anime become mostly CGI, so whiny "muh 2d" faggots will stop watching it.

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>>15613157
It can be pretty bad, subjectively speaking.

>>15613174
I wish fully CG anime would just stop trying to look like hand animation, it doesn't work, I'd be down for more anime that look like that one Appleseed movie with the more realistic style.

Video games these days look better than stuff like Knights of Sidonia, I want an entire show that looks like an MGS-V cutscene.

>>15613186
>MGS-V cutscene
MGSV was just bad realistic CG. Most of the faces were even just straight up scanned from people. Realistic CG is a menace that's killing artistry in the western game industry.

>>15613186
Well, even though I agree that trying to imitate limited hand-drawn animation isn't the right way, I don't want 3DCG anime going full realism. If I want realistic style, I will just watch something live-action, honestly.
Knights of Sidonia adapted character designs to 3D badly, but I liked action scenes. Then, there are BBK\BRNK and ID-0 which adapted usual for anime character designs really good, but animators are trying too hard to imitate limited animation. There is also Kemono Friends, where animators found a compromise. They did character designs specially for 3DCG and modeled them with consideration of 3DCG quirks. Also they didn't try to imitate limited traditional animation, so movements are much smoother than aforementioned BBK or ID-0.

>>15613173
>As in CG is a tool and a tool can't be bad?

Naturally.
>>15613175
>It can be pretty bad, subjectively speaking.

So can't hand drawn. I mean how often have we seen what amounts to still images and the animators just sliding the cel around

>>15613221
>So can't hand drawn. I mean how often have we seen what amounts to still images and the animators just sliding the cel around
That's true.

As a point, though, we've seen all ranges of hand drawn, and I've yet to see CGI that I'd call "really good". I've seen CGI that doesn't look bad, true, but the only times I've seen a sequence or a frame that I thought was extraordinarily good, it's been pretty clearly hand drawn.

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>>15613229
>and I've yet to see CGI that I'd call "really good".

Majestic Prince
Etotama

happens more often than you'd think

>>15613236
I haven't seen any of those, though I did hear MJP had some pretty good CGI. The clip you posted is certainly not bad, and while I don't like it visually, that's more because of the camera jitter than the models. I'm not sure if I'd call it "very good" to the extent that absurd hand drawn stuff can be.

>>15613236
Bubuki Buranki is an excellent example as well, but it doesn't look quite as good in motion as it does in stills.

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>>15613257

It looks a lot better on Blu Ray than it does on a shitty webm, mind you and there's some stuff in the movie thats even better. Etotama's not remotely /m/ but I wish more people would watch it becuase damn was it a surprise.

It kills me that it tanked while that Kemomo shit prints money

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Will the new anime have Kanuka or Kasha?

>>15613282
That clip reminds me why I prefer anime over live action.

>>15611149
Yeah, I'm really really excited about this. A Pluto animation AND Patlabor? It's like somebody in Japan somehow knew exactly what my most fervent anime-related wishes were. Seems like it'll be good to be a /m/echa fan this year.

>>15613186
>I want an entire show that looks like an MGS-V cutscene.

Yeah. I was also talking about this with some other folks, the cutscenes from the Berserk Musou game do a better job than all the CG in the actual anime. Sometimes it seems like all the good CG art you find in vidya.

>>15613221
Speaking of Berserk, I was watching the '97 anime and it seemed they used that "still pan" technique a lot. It was also common in a lot of other anime, like for action scenes you'd just see a still shot of stuff exploding and people screaming. I dunno, a lot of folks like that method better. Maybe there's just more tolerance for very limited animation as opposed to poorly-done animation.

>>15613292
weeb

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>>15611857
If it is those guys I hope they flesh them out so they're not all just 1:1 genderbent versions of the original cast. That short was fun for what it was though, yeah.

>>15613357
I think "Male Noa" had a bit of a distinct quirk to him--while Noa was the girl who loved labors, this guy seems like he tries to act cool but can be easily goaded into Ota-like rages.

>>15612051
>>15612054
The Patlabor reboot CGI was the best I've ever seen. I rag on CG at every opportunity but if it's the same team it will look good.

>>15613341
>weeb as an insult
>on 4chan
>on /m/ at that
>when anon is just stating his preference of his weebshit to be animated instead of live action
Ha

Can I watch this without watching previous series?

>a new Parlabor series is in the works in conjonction with an American live feature movie
> an American live feature movie

>>15613612

I thought Oshii said he'd be interested in seeing an ALA... but FUCK THAT.

>>15613612
It's GITS all over again.

>>15613612
I'm not fundamentally opposed to an American Patlabor because i think some American writers and directors can pull off a comedic cop show, but >movie

It's gonna be shit.

>>15613612
what the fuck, where does it say that?

>>15613612
> an American live feature movie
Please no

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>>15612383
>Like it or hate it, like gay marriage or "diversity" in media, 3DCG is here to stay.

Don't kid yourself cuck.

>>15613174
You ahve to be 18+ to post on 4chan kiddo.

>>15613236
>happens more often than you'd think

Pic not related, because it looks like garbage to be frank.

>>15613587
How would we know when it isn't out yet?

>>15613312
It's well known that the 97 Berserk had an appalling budget, but they did a good job with what little they had to work with.

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Clean visual

>>15611149
>http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/06/13-1/pluto-de-naoki-urasawa-ser-adaptado-em-anime
wtf, after so many years? damn im so excited

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CG is the future but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it.
Anime is a visual medium.
If it starts getting too ugly I will find another source of entertainment.

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>>15615171
headgear presets: easy money

>>15615281
They recreated the image entirely from scratch though.

>>15615293
hard work I see

>>15615318
For a poster, I'd say yes.

>>15614974
How does it feel to stubbornly stay in our own little puddle of shit while the rest of the world goes on regardless of you? Makes you feel angry, doesn't it? Makes you feel small, like you don't actually matter, right?

Because you don't matter. Don't like CG? No one gives a fuck, bitch.

>>15615171
>>15615281
>they changed the subtitle from six to five lines
>they didn't change the Engrish

>>15615184
>mfw realizing that Patlabor is actually retro, because it was talking place more than fifteen years ago.
I have no face.

>>15611857
It had really great visual direction over all. Do we know if the EZY is being handled by the same team?

>>15613282
That's hilarious. Why is this bad again?

>>15620420
Not that anyone is in position to judge, since subbed episodes are in the single digits.

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>>15620420
CGI Chow Fun is a new low.

>>15620420
It doesn't know what it wants to be and ends up being this really awkward parody that's mostly boring and unfunny. It has moments but they are few and far between, sadly.

Where do I start with Patlabor and how do I proceed?

>>15622558
Production order if you're not too anal about continuity.

>>15611149
I hope not being a fucking reboot

>>15611860
Kanuka in SRW OE was voiced by Rain Mikamura VA.

>>15622558
One continuity is the original OVA then the films. So like 10 things.

The other is the TV show then the second OVA.

I uh... forget which continuity the live action show is in because it NEVER GOT GOOD SUBS FUCK.

It's not too rough watching Patlabor. The only downside is that the two continuities mean that there's not just more continuation.

>>15611324

Better than nothing I guess. No film though.

>>15622672
The Next Generation follows the movie continuity, especially the 2nd movie which is major plot point in its movie finale.

>>15622680

Thanks. How do you know what's in the film? Please go subtitle it. Skaro has fucked off into goofy ancient Japanese schlock dramas.

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>>15622696
I read Chinese. I think there were BR subs too but I can't remember, they were on Nyaa.

>>15622700
BR?

And dude translate the Chinese to English dear god please.

>>15622704
Brazilian. Whatever language it is they speak. And nah I got better things to do, it'll be a machine-translation at most. Besides, you can watch the movie blind since it's almost a shot-for-shot adaptation of Patlabor 2.

>>15613236
Active Raid and even Comet Lucifer have some good CG1 too.

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femGotoh a cute

>>15611149
I miss backlit cells. The blues and light colors always came out so brightly.

Digital is just so false.

>>15625958
I fell in love immediately. She's like an oyaji cake.

>>15613612
>an American live feature movie

This seems like one of those few shows that could actually go through this kind of thing and come out okay.

But hollywood.

>>15627243

Unless Del Taco is directing, they're going to turn Alphonse into a Bayformers abomination

>>15627281
Everything must have 1000% extra panels and pieces or it isn't "realistic".

>>15627311
Don't forget the techno and bass buzzing and braaaaam noises when the robots move!

>>15627281
It won't be patlabor but it won't be as boring as Oishi's own live action movie.

>>15627337
Jokes on you, they're definately gonna get oshii to be involved in the patlabor live action since he's already done gits. IT'S ALL OVER BOYS.

>>15620679
But that's all of Patlabor.

>>15622700
It's out on DVD in Germany.

>>15614988
>ahve
Not really

>>15627543
He has never made a live gits.

>>15629700
He was involved in the hollywood gits, and yes I said involved, not made.

One hope I have is that the music will be more like Patlabor than 00, because it was almost like listening to the 00 soundtrack when watching the Next Generation.

>>15633386
It depends on whether Kenji Kawai is composing the music.

>>15633386
Kenji Kawai has been making the exact same soundtrack for half of the things he scores since Avalon (2001). For fuck's sake, even Ip Man sounded exactly like 00.

Still not Sawano or Zimmer levels of lazyness though.

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>>15613140
>Threadly reminder that drawn-over-CG has been used in anime since the 80s,

I've been watching Patlabor and I'm on the last episode of the second OVA.
I really don't have anything else to watch other than minipato.
I don't want it to end.

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>>15611149
Oh god yes. The new OVA was surprisingly good, so I have faith.

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>>15634189

>>15622737
>Brazilian. Whatever language it is they speak.
Their dialect of Portuguese.

>>15613140
Are you perhaps referring to the spinning solar system bit in Daicon IV? Because something like that is going to be the extent of it during the 80s and the first half of the 90s. Something more complicated would not have been effective as a cost-saving measure, so if you were going through the expense of using CG animation, you'd be showing it off as CG.

And that's all putting aside that the tools and expertise to make the motion of CG animation look good would not have been widely available (if at all) at the time, so it would not have been worth tracing unless you were going for a smooth and artificial look (good luck making anything rotoscoped look smooth, though).

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>>15639608
i will fite you