Why does /m/ never talk about Vampire Hunter D even though it's

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Leila is very cute and she looks a lot like Jenny Wright

>>15563550
The only movie adaptions focus on the early volumes, so there isn't much exposure (unless that planned TV series can ever get out of planning stages, that is).

Also, seems the manga only did 8 of the novels.

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>>15563564
25 volumes have been published in English so they must be decently popular.

Also

>The great machine battles had primarily been contests of combat ability for those constructed at first. Unofficial historical accounts kept by the Nobility reserved a special place for the earth-shaking contests between Apollo and Hercules. The surpassing destructive power unleashed in their clashed changed the shape of mountains, wiped away valleys, and stopped the course of rivers.

>The machines of the Nobility became sentient at one point and began to fight out of petty hatred and envy of each other with brutal emotions that became battles to prove their power. In the end Hercules and Apollo hand ended their battle with neither proving the better and the massive damage and destruction of the battle churned in their wake the testament to the deciding conflict.

>>15563550
They were also at war with extraterrestrials for millennia.

http://vampirehunterd.wikia.com/wiki/OSB

>>15563856
What book are these guys from?

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>>15563903
They appear in White Devil Mountain and the spin-off book Noble V: Greylancer.

>>15563958
Tfw they removed the illustrations from Greylancer and gave it a shit cover

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>>15563564
I heard the mangaka quit for health reasons. Pity she couldn't do more but she had a good run. Had to get the last volume in French because DMP cancelled it, though (at least I already knew the plot from the books).

The American comic "Message From Mars" seems pretty cool so far. Hopefully after issue #2 there won't be more delays.

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>>15565078
Why'd they cancel it? Wasn't it originally published in English? Actually, is the manga any good?

Are A Wind Named Amnesia and Vampire Hunter D set in the same universe?

>>15565141
>>15565141
If they are, they're so far apart that it doesn't matter. The novel of it is really good, by the way. Wataru stops at like 3 additional places during his trip.

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>>15565150

I wonder if Wataru and Sophie's child actually ends up causing the nobles or has origins connected to them.

Still though I think the author should've done more set in the Amnesia universe, would've been interesting seeing how humanity rebuilt itself and coping with all sorts of shit they did.

>Tfw you'll never travel across post-apocalyptic America with Sophie

It hurts

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>>15565133
They never really explained why, might have been poor sales. It's not bad, though. Should be easy to find cheap these days and there are some free scans online.

>>15563564

The novels are really the only proper way of experiencing it I take it? I really need to try and buy a bunch of them some time, they always sound cool but you rarely ever hear anyone talk of them. The two movies were okay, but the setting is so broad that you can't really expect two movies to show it's scope I suppose.

>/m/
>ever talking about nice things
>let alone having a civil, shitpost free discussion where both sides can make a point without someone insisting they're the only objectively correct person and everyone else is a shit eating retard

Gee anon, I wonder.

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>>15565453
The first movie is a pretty accurate adaption, iirc.
The 2nd has a lot of changes

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>>15565195

No, the Nobility has existed for thousands of years before the apocalypse came along, they aren't related to the ayylmaos.

Now that being said it'd be pretty funny to see Sophie and D meet up and go on adventures.

>>15565648
Yeah for instance Leila doesn't get RAAAAPED by all of her brothers (including the crippled one).

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>>15565903
Do you think Sophie cries out AYY LMAO during sex?

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>>15565648
>The first movie is a pretty accurate adaption, iirc
I was surprised when I first read it how much the movie was just like it, a couple things were changed like for some reason the movie switched Doris and Lamica's hair color, and the movie didn't have Doris get naked when she attacked D on the road.

I was mildly annoyed by that.

Also, from what I recall in the book Count Lee was a lot less threatening than they made him in the film, so that's nice.

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>>15565935
TFW AI keeps sending giant robots after you

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>>15565453
Go for it. If 25 volumes seems overwhelming you could start small with the short stories featured in Dark Nocturne and the VHD Reader's Guide.

>>15565981
A particularly fun fact is that the director of the movie, Toyoo Ashida, also inserted D as a cameo in the old Fist of the North Star movie.

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>>15567290

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-06-30/unified-pictures-and-vampire-hunter-d/.103801

Will anything ever come out of this?

>>15567501
Haha, I never noticed that before! Nice.

>>15565078
Is that the kickstarter one? I didn't back it but a friend of mine was really enthusiastic about it, maybe I should check it out if it's good.

>>15565981
>the movie didn't have Doris get naked when she attacked D on the road. I was mildly annoyed by that.

You might like the manga, then.

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Some of my favorite stories are the more slow-paced mysteries where D investigates weird stuff going on in a small village. Might not make for an exciting 90-minute movie but I think it would work well for a show.

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>>15570582
Amano is god.

>>15569683
Cyber-horse disagrees.

>>15565498
Ironically, you're the negative shitposter.

>>15570582
What volume is this from?

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>>15570642
It's a standalone painting based on a scene from the second book, Raiser of Gales where D chats with the heroine Lina over a cup of joe (yes, he can drink normal stuff).

We also first learn about how the Sacred Ancestor did some pretty grisly experiments to create Nobles that can walk in daylight, and D holds a grudge because he too was a test subject.

>>15570606
>Amano is god.

Frankly I was never a fan. Especially of his FF work which frankly often seemed like he was at direct odds with whomever was in charge of the graphics

>>15570976
>which frankly often seemed like he was at direct odds with whomever was in charge of the graphics
I was always under the assumption that Amano drew up everything way before production began and technical artists came in and made concepts? To be fair visuals are just now reaching the point where something like Amano's art can be 1:1 with the game

>>15570976
>Frankly I was never a fan
I'm with you on that. All of his art looks like half-finished sketches with bad proportions and uncolored skin. Just look at >>15563958
That face is hilariously bad, it just screams amateur. Does anyone really believe that the image took him more than 10 minutes to draw?

This thread made me start on the books since I remember liking the movies a lot.

Half-way through the first one and it's pretty entertaining so far.

>>15571062
I had actually picked the series back up just a couple of days before this thread. Just finished book 8. They're definitely not without their charms. I think my favorite part is that D is pretty much completely invincible and the whole conflict boils down to how much bullshit he's willing to endure before he vamps out and fucks everyone up.

>>15571038
>Uncolored skin
>Why are vampires pale

>>15571103
Have you never seen an Amano drawing outside of Vampire Hunter D?

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>>15571118
What does that matter when D should be pale?

>>15571128
Fuck you, shitstain. Learn to read.

>>15571135
You used D as an example and think that white is "uncolored", retard.

>Vampire Hunter D thread
>on /m/

As a huge fan of the books this pleases me greatly. Always loved the pulpy mix of horror, western and sci-fi.

Except the PS1 game. Fuck the PS1 game.

>>15563550
Because it isn't really /m/. Yeah, you have robots, giant castle trains, Von Neumann machine/vampires, and the like, but D just goes around getting into adventures where he has to kill vampires.

The tech is never explained, other than
>The Nobles had mastered Space, if not Time
and
>Muh SUPREME ANCESTOR

so there's nothing to talk about other than the adventures. That makes it >>>/jp/, since /a/ mods ban you for discussing light novels.

>>15563856
>And somewhere in those millenia, Earth was invaded by aliums.

>>15565981
Doris wasn't hot enough in the movie either.

I find it weird that D stops getting women all over his dick after like 5 volumes.

>>15571140
Learn to read, moron.

>>15571181
Maybe the author Kikuchi figured that fans stopped caring about his shilling and preferred the adventure aspect rather than relationships.

>>15571193
I want D to spend more time with womens though, like Iriya.

Also, it's interesting how he stopped calling back to previous novels.

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>>15571103
>>Why are vampires pale

Why is a hearty healthy adventure who spends a great deal of time outside pale? And wearing lipstick

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>>15571189
Your complaint is utterly retarded
>>15571266

>>>15571193
He said that he's forgotten most of what's happened in older novels. Also that he and Amano don't have control over what gets illustrated. Like there could be an important scene they want to be illustrated but the editor gets to decide what actually gets a illustrations.


>Yeah, you have robots, giant castle trains, Von Neumann machine/vampires

They're in it plenty for it to be /m/, imo.
>>15571171
She looked off most of the time in the movie. That massive forehead.

>>15571276
Because it looks cool, probably.

>>15571276
Holy shit, that neck.
>getting paid to draw half-colored sketches
Amano is living the dream.

>>15571282

It looks gay. Maybe it's just a Japan thing but he looks like a faggy transvestite

>>15571289
You're just jealous 'cause he's beautiful.

I actually would've liked more introspection about what was lost when the Vamps died off, like we saw in the 2-parter where D met Baron Balasz and that virgin Vampiress had that record player that made holograms of the past.

>>15571289

It is a Japan thing. The West views skinny beautiful men as gay and large, buff guys as manly while Japan views large, buff guys as gay and skinny, beautiful men as manly. They see men being buff as guys who care enough about their appearance to work out and thus gay, while naturally beautiful men aren't.

>>15571308

Westerners are pretty quick to call gym bros faggy too and frankly I think it's less a Japan thing and more a certain audience thing.

>>15571314

In reality yea, but the predominant audience in the West sees large, buff men as manly and the predominant audience in Japan is the opposite. There's still some variety in both and it's really more about who the major economic pushers are I suppose, but it's still simplest to break it down by region in some ways.

>>15571276
The lipstick part seems like a fetish of his. I mean, look at his work on Tatsunoko shows, he used that so much that even one allegedly male villain on Gatchaman (Berg Katse) had it.

>>15571280
>He said that he's forgotten most of what's happened in older novels.
Considering how long he's been doing this, it's no wonder.

Suddenly, VHD and Fist of the North Star don't seem so different, since the latter's author/artist duo didn't remember anything post-Raoh very well.

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>>15571276
He's going for an Elric of Melniboner, which, big surprise, he also did some illustrations for.'

pic unrelated

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>>15571078
D is pretty OP, but Kikuchi is good at building tension with the supporting cast. Sometimes D gets killed with a stake or trapped somewhere for a few chapters, then we switch to the POV of his allies fighting to survive.

>>15571266
Iriya was cool. Someone even cosplayed her with Dakatsu (who does D and other Amano-inspired costumes).

>>15571342

That's a really impressive bit of cosplay, but it does make it clear just how over wrought his costumes tend to be. There's a lot of little detail there and it seems like it'd be really annoying to wear, constantly creating noise and tangles even if his vampire constitution makes the weight a total non issue.

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>>15571029
I could dig it if the new CG series looked like Dissidia or the FFIV remake intro.

>>15571350
I assume all the fancy bling is just for covers while D in the story dresses a bit more plainly.

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>>15571306
In The Stuff of Dreams, baking apple pie was another lost art of the Nobility.

>>15571569

How many novels are out now out in English at the moment. Wikipedia says there's 44 volumes, but I doubt they're all in English. Is there a box set anywhere I wonder. Buying them all or even a taste couple individually sounds like a pain when there's so many.

>>15571576
We're up to 25 now, Japan is at 31. We'll probably catch up in a year or two.

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>>15571772
The numbering for the English volumes are also different. Like, Dark Nocturne isn't actually a numbered volume in the Japanese editions so our numbering is fucked up compared to theirs
>>15571569
What art book is this from?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2015-10-30/the-resurrection-of-vampire-hunter-d-part-i-hideyuki-kikuchi/.94794

> After more than 30 years and more than 30 books, you're still spinning tales of Vampire Hunter D. Having built such a sprawling mythology for your hero, how do you keep track of it all?

>Kikuchi: That's because of my talent, haha [joking]. But, I cannot say that I keep track of it all. I only really remember all of the mythology for a couple of volumes.

>If you compare and check all volumes of D, you might find some contradictions. The points about which I am careful are these two: “don't mix up the characteristics of D”, and “not to lose sight of the purpose of the journey”. I have not told the fans about the latter.
http://thedivareview.com/Yoshitaka_Amano_Hideyuki_Kikuchi_Exclusive_Interview.htm

>LMD: Now hearing about how the editor has power over what is seen in a novel, what it is like for each of you to have your work, which you are so creatively invested in, handled by a third party?

>HK: Of course, when I’m writing my books, there are scenes where I think I would really like to have Amano-san do a picture for this, but I really don’t have a choice but to let the editor decide that.

>YA: I’m not all that satisfied with it. Often, it purely comes down to the pacing of the book. It’s purely on page count, not on ‘This would be a great scene,’ but ‘We’re X number of pages into the book and we need one here.’ So there are times when I would like to push it backward or forward a little bit to find a better scene. It’s easy enough to draw them, but there are some pictures that just plain don’t get finished.

>>15571856
And three or four part stories like Pale Fallen Angel get combined for the English release.

>What art book is this from?
Coffin. I still own a copy, it's very nice.
http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/13-424/Coffin-The-Art-of-Vampire-Hunter-D

Books 1 - 25 in english.

I got them off some vn forum, but since half of the links there redirect you to ads I figured someone would like them all in one place.

https://mega.nz/#!2NlygKaD!YNMQpNy-UKVERoqWrXmToYScPRwSaz8GHKWRqwQ5YYQ

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>>15572932
!!!!!!

>>15572932
Wasn't that site called vn-meido? An update from maybe 2 days ago also added Grey Lancer. I also got those novels from there. How many novels are still untranslated?

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>>15573832
Why did VIZ remove the illustrations from Greylancer? Seven Seas did the same thing for Wicked City, removed all the illustrations and gave it a shit cover.

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It feels like Dune but with vampires. It's kind of neat.

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>>15573853
Dunno why, but this is some Scholastic tier bullshit.

>>15571350
It's Amano's style, just like Nomura with his belts and zippers.

>>15573933

Oh I'm aware, and it does work in illustrations; it's just seeing someone actually wearing a close approximation of it for real makes clear just how intricate it is and how annoying it'd be in real life. Not that illustrations should adhere to reality, just an observation.

>>15570626
Leave the jaded, angry man be, this thread is a nice little miracle but his complaints are on-point a good chunk of the time.

>>15571151
Nah, to get your ln thread to stick on /a/ you have to open with isekai shitposting.

>>15572932
You're a blessing, anon.

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>>15572932
Cheers.

I loved the two movies I saw, especially the ending to the 2nd one almost made me tear up. I hope down the line we get at least one more movie based on any of the novels.

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>>15572932
One thing missing is the Reader's Guide which includes the short stories that were once exclusive to the art books, such as Portrait of Yzobel and A Village in Fog.

This site has, what I believe,is the full list of novels we're still missing:
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_Vampire_Hunter_D_novels#/Another_Vampire_Hunter_series

Any idea on where to get the missing ones?

Sounds like a weird mix of I am Legend and Book of the New Sun.

>>15574909
There was like a prototype novel released only at a convention, I think.

>>15575785
>The Wanderer's Ship (さすらい人の船 Sasuraijin no Fune?): Published in the New York Anime Festival 2008 Official Guide Book. One of three original manuscripts written by Hideyuki Kikuchi which have been raffled off to fans, along with publication rights, at his semi-annual fan gatherings in Japan. The recipient of this particular manuscript, Hitomi Yasue, decided to share the story with an English audience, hoping to expose more English readers to the novel series. It was subsequently translated by Kevin Leahy and published in the New York Anime Festival 2008 Official Guide Book, and a live reading by professional voice actors was also performed at the convention. To date, it has only been released in English.[4]

>>15563550
>Why does /m/ never talk about Vampire Hunter D

Because there's two movies and the only mecha in them is like a truck a motorcycle and a castle spaceship.

>>15575883

There was a PS1 game. Not sure if it was any good

>>15575840
>Publication rights
Wow.

>>15575883
Every horse in Vampire Hunter D is a cyborg. And the second movie has a wartrukk and a bike.

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>>15576027
And quite a few cyborg men and mech suits of varying shapes and sizes in the novels.

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>>15573918
Funny you should say that, because there is a bad guy inspired by Baron Harkonnen in Mysterious Journey to the North Sea.

>>15576328
the thumb looks like a hut dressed like an old madam

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>>15576299
Would be cool if they included the novella this was based on

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>>15576347
Yeah, I hope they'll put it in the trade paperback as a bonus.

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>>15576345
Pretty much how he looks in the book, too.

Thank you for the novels.

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>>15575938
It was a mediocre RE clone. Devil May Cry it ain't, but the character models looked nice and exploring Carmilla's castle was pretty neat.

One interesting twist was D gets killed by Benge (the shadow guy) and then you take control of Leila who has to find D and put his left hand back on to revive him.

>>15576871
She was a really neat addition to the movie as the new final boss. The old one was basically just some horny parasite being of the same species as D's hand.

I wish the movie kept the giant Hercules hand and female Dhampir in though. They really watered down the monster mercenaries.

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>>15576898
D and Mayerling's fights with the Marcus Bros. would have also looked cool onscreen. Glad they left out all the rape though, yeesh.

Ever seen the Japanese dub of Bloodlust? The dialogue is very different from the English version (a bit closer to the book in places) and it has a great cast of seiyuu.
https://anidex.info/?page=torrent&id=30590

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>>15576871
You played the wrong D game

>>15565648
So the novels must be awful, campy dog shit, because the first movie was atrociously bad. I'll stick to Bloodlust, thank you very much.

>>15577354
>that kid who hates Showa but thinks Black is a masterpiece

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>>15577343
I've already played SOTN a million times. Now I'm tempted to play it again.

I'm shocked there hasn't been other D games, it's great material for a hack 'n slash adventure or an RPG where you can pick different classes of hunters.

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>>15577343
>mfw there won't ever be a new good 2D Castlevania
think I'm gonna buy a used DS to play those
except that mirror shit game, it was terrible

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>>15577354
The Bloodlust novel actually has a lot of good things the movie omitted. They're both worth watching to see their pros and cons. The worst thing about the first movie is that the designs are nothing like the ones from the novel and giving Doris a massive forehead.

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Is there seriously not a single scan of the first issue of the kickstarter comic?

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>>15578276
I haven't found any but it's not like buying it will cost you much since it's only 3 dollars.

Forgot VHD had dragons and didn't even realize the dinosaur thing from the first movie was meant to be a dragon. The art in the manga feels pretty iffy.

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>>15578384
It is a bit wonky at first, but I really dig Takaki's designs for both familiar characters and ones not seen on screen yet.

>>15573853
I wonder if the Drake Sword/Quelaag Fury Sword from Dark Souls I was inspired by that cover. They look remarkably similar.

Actually, I'm sure there are loads of references within the game, does anyone know of any more specific examples?

>>15576347
This image gives me Hellboy vibes, in a good way.

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>>15578844
Lucatiel's getup kinda reminds me of D, and Bloodborne goes without saying.

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>>15578853
A D comic by Mike Mignola would rock. Adapting a book like Fortress of the Elder God would be right up his alley (big Lovecraft influences there), or he could whip up his own weird little story.

Who are some authors VHD/Hideyuki Kikuchi have influenced?

I remember Madoka's writer citing him somewhere and I think Fate Stay Night's author did the same.

>>15580890
>UROBUCHI: However now I think about it again, this is the screenplay being unreasonable, as I put a fight with spear swinging around in a narrow back alley. I should have thought things over a bit more... (LOL) It was my bad habit to have events take place in a back alley when I got absent-minded. Being a follower of Hideyuki Kikuchi, I also let my story go the way of a back alley before knowing it.

>Nasu: I didn't really read that much. As I hung out more with Takeuchi, I found that we had similar tastes in manga, so I gradually got interested in reading. Then one day, he lent me 「Alien-Treasure Street」 by Hideyuki Kikuchi (*1). That sent me over the edge. And as I kept asking him to lend me more novels, I started to get interested in writing them myself.

>Editor: So you're saying that Hideyuki Kikuchi inspired you to write novels?

>Nasu: Yes. There's no other author that's influenced me more than he has.

He's basically inspired two of the biggest otaku related creators of recent memory.

>>15572932
Thanks!

I've only read like 15 of the novels, and it's kinda repetitive. He goes somewhere and act all cool, save some damsel, we get some hints about his connection to the big boss, and then he beats some vampire's bullshit power with asspulls.

Some of the time he wins with his bullshit hand, some of the time "D won with his superior swordsmanship against a power that shouldn't be beaten by swordsmanship. Because reasons." I'm really not sure what there is to talk about.

>>15581613
Formulaic is fine sometimes. New book comes out, I'm entertained for a while then I move on to other things until the next volume hits. It's like 007 or Godzilla.

>>15580383

you know as hype as I am for the Warren Ellis Castlevania series, Mike Mignola would have been mind blowing

>>15581613
You wouldn't marathon an episodic anime.

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>>15581991

There's that to consider too. I think a lot of people are generally hard on episodic story telling when telling an ongoing narrative was never really the point.

We see people complain about filler or shows with no ongoing story beyond what happens in each episode as if they where some kind of expert on the medium but really these books and shows are often just a way to kill some time and have some fun. A huge part of speculative fiction is often transporting the audience to a new world and engaging the imagination with wonderful sights and characters, it's fine to write a story with the short term in mind.

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So how do the novels' translations read? I'm thinking of picking up a couple to give a read, since I enjoyed the hell out of the movies.

>>15571330
Amano does my fucking favorite Elric. He fucking nails the ethereal feeling of the character's stories.

>>15582185
I'm not a lit snob but they read fine to me ignoring a few confusing scenes

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>>15582185
>So how do the novels' translations read?
Pretty solid. Kevin Leahy is a longtime fan and friends with Kikuchi so he puts a lot of care into his work.

How is this /m/?

>>15582793
> can't even be fucked to read the first post

>>15565935
What a smug little alien

why is she so smug?

>>15582215
Is that him on the right?

>>15584734
Yep. Kevin's a fun dude, his reports on the Talk Live events Kikuchi holds for fans are quite amusing.

http://www.altvampyres.net/vhd/textpref.html

Man, this site makes me feel old.