kill count

>>15554819
>does it count as a kill if your target is in a vastly inferior piece of tech?
Of course it does. People will find any damn way they can to inflate their counts. Otherwise, wouldn't they be stuck between

>claim your enemy's hardware is shit
or
>none of your soldiers' kill counts are valid

>>15554819
>How many aces got that rank because they were only facing space craft or pods rather than robots?
Char, for one.

The guy gets his ass kicked pretty much every time he tries to fight a named character unless he's either fighting a massively less experienced opponent or piloting a massively superior machine.

>>15554830
>tfw you realize Gato is better than Char despite not having bullshit powers and never jobbed to anyone.

>>15554819

A kill is a kill, but I'd think that once equivalent tech on the enemy side started appearing, they'll start finding ways to wave their ego by differentiating their kills; eg. "You may have bagged fifty mobile pods but I bagged FIVE mobile suits! Ha!" So the guy with 5 MS marks on his unit shoulder armor gets more "respect" than the guy with the MS whose shoulder armor block is almost entirely painted white with MP kill markings.

They must had have something similar with single-seat craft and ships, considering how ace-piloted MS could destroy capital vessels in the side materials and sometimes in-series with some measure of regularity.

>>15554830
I remember watching Zeta gundam to see more Char and was baffled at how horrible he was and how he constantly got his shit pushed in.

>>15554819
Why do you think Zeeks had so many aces?

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>>15554819
>does it count as a kill if your target is in a vastly inferior piece of tech?

I suppose. The Native Americans won't shut up about it.

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>>15554819
Anything with weapons is a danger to you or your comrades, it also reduces the forces the enemy can bring to bear in other battles.

>>15554855
You're saying reduce the forces?

This made me thinking, how would the kill count works for a double seater mecha? Let's say that we are talking of something in the lines of a Hind gunship with arms and legs, so it has a pilot and a gunner officer. The kill goes for the gunner officer, is shared betwen the two or is simply accounted for the machine itself?

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>>15554886
Kek

But bringing that scene to mind, the other thing with destroying ships, mobile pods, older mobile suits. You are depriving the enemy of trained pilots, crewmen and captains.

Which also means you are going to have less veterans to train new men.

>>15554819
Canonically, the Moebius isn't inferior to the Ginn in all aspects - just the standard armament, agility, and armor. It still has the speed advantage, and its railgun is still effective somewhat. Alliance military strategy and tactics should have been modified so that they may be able to still win with these, and with only the support of leet Moebius Zero units. No gendums.

But of course that didn't happen because of bad writing.

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>>15555215
>its railgun is still effective somewhat
Not really. Mwu's Moebius Zero has the same main railgun and the Ginn's armor just shrugs off a hit head on.

>>15555279
But the same railgun has been canonically shown piercing the armor of zaft ships. Is the ginn more armored than a military ship?

>>15555279
500 more hits and it would of died.

>>15555284
In Stargazer, the commander of an Alliance tank is only able to disable a Ginn by getting up to very close range and firing off three shots in a row at the knee, because apparently there's no other way to get through the armor.

https://youtu.be/cE_bLiYd_Vw?t=714

>>15555287
>would of

>>15555310
and im going to keep using it to trigger people like you because you'd have to be stupid to think you're the only one correct me nigga but mostly because im too retarded to actuallly lrn2english

>>15555303
See, the CE is full of inconsistent powerlevels. Strike's shield wouldn't have fully blocked that positron cannon shot, unless there was newtype magic shit that happened (there were none), Battery charge going empty only when the plot needed it, and grunt armor and weapons strength being adjusted depending on who's shooting who.

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>>15555330
Then stop posting and read a book

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>>15555342
Maybe the shields in CE are just really strong.

>>15554819
No. Just high specs.

>>15557846
>runoff from the anti-matter beam isn't damaging the archangel

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>>15554923
Dougram has Blockheads, Crab Gunners, Dueys, Bigfoots, and Cabarovs, all multi-seaters, along with various other vehicles.

Xabungle's various Walker Machines almost always have second seats or turrets, e.g. the Ottrich has its tail cannon turret, the Government has its chest cockpit with guns.

In Dougram, I'd assume any given kill goes to the gunner using a particular weapon, or else the kill is credited collectively to the crew of the vehicle. Xabungle would probably handle this a little differently owing to how Breakers tend to treat each other- a good pilot getting a kill without the help of his gunner probably wouldn't want to share the glory or money to be gotten out of a kill.

>>15555284

It's all about focus. Shoot randomly from all angles with the gun and the pods and yeah you'll definitely get some hits but they're mostly glancing blows that causes minor damage as best.

Where as flying dead on at Rau's ships and focus fire all 5 guns in one spot repeatedly and yeah that will break through the hull.

>>15559099
How then was he able to destroy 5 of them in that moon battle in the backstory?

>>15558981
Why?

>>15559126
probably shot them where the armor was weaker

>>15554923

I think it would go to the vehicle and crew collectively when being stencilled on the vehicle, but both the commander and gunner would have individual records that followed them throughout their careers.

"This here is Tank no. 764k2, Iron Sally. She's taken out 14 tanks, 24 assault guns, 9 field pieces, and 1 command car. Her current TC is a tank ace, having made 7 of the aforementioned tank kills since he got here. She's getting a new gunner, sergeant deadeye johnson, who has gunned for 9 different crews and racked up a total of 57 tank kills since the war started. Her driver, private billy, drove over the command car..."

>>15554819

Being an ace is a matter of personal pride and your reputation among your peers. Imagine sitting in the O club listening to some older zeek brag about how,many Balls he took out at Loum after you've just come in to drown your sorrows after finally taking down the GM that slaughtered all your friends.

>>15554819
Only if it's killing in a single stroke.

>>15555284
Assuming its a railgun railgun, logic could be he fires before the capacitors of the railgun are fully charged, resulting in a weaker shot

This would then account for one hit kills and survivalbal attacks from the same gun

>>15564369
So none

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if noin actually killed wufei, would this count as enemy combatant killed?