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Hello, /m/. What do you all know of getting a manga translated? I know there's a lot of scanlation groups out there, but which ones would you guys recommend? Are they willing to do work for hire?

The reason I ask is because I'm fucking sick and tired of the Iwamoto Rockman X manga eluding us for so goddamn long that I'm willing to fork over dough just to get it translated.
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>>15517728
Hokuto no Gun is good
Stay away from xpearse, he more than likely translates by guessing
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>>15517728
You could have tried asking in the scanlation threads on /a/, but they mostly do new stuff so I'm guessing they wouldn't want to do it. However, with the mere mention of money, you attract the wrong people as they only want it and care not for the thing itself.

In any case, what is this MegaMan manga? What about it makes you really want to read it?

>>15517740
Don't let personal hate cloud your judgment. Separate the person and work, Giovanni.

>Hokuto no Gun
Probably too busy at the moment with all 5000 manga they try to do at once.
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>>15517740
Can confirm. He got ousted for guesslating dialog in Great Mazinger, such as this page where Kouji is actually talking about both his father and grandfather, rather than just implying his father built both Z and Great. Not to mention that the "correct" translations he does read terribly.
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>>15517767
aaaaaand here's xpearse
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>>15517767
It's the Iwamoto X manga from the 90's. A lot of Megaman fans, myself included, have been wanting this translated for ages. There were attempts made, but the scan quality, translation quality, and halted progress made it a dead dream. We even waited for word from Udon, but for some reason they never got it even when they did several other Megaman mangas.

Also, I know about greed being a factor as well, so that's why I'm asking for opinions on groups before I just jump to the very first one I see.
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>>15517740
>Hokuto no Gun
They don't take requests, it just annoys them (unless maybe Yokoyama is involved, since one of the members likes that author's works).

>>15517787
Happy Scans might be your best bet, so try them.
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>>15517728
I'll do it
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>>15517769
Still hung up about that one instance that I did fix an entire year ago? Please, seek medical attention. Believe me, you need it.

>>15517787
A few questions if I may. How long is it? Are there scans available? If so, what is the quality? And what is it about exactly? I'm not too familiar with MegaMan and I'm unsure if the manga is based on the games, anime, whatever or does its own thing.

In any case, about groups, most would probably say "I'll think about it" which more or less means a no, but it never hurts to try. However, again, most of them are probably very busy with their own projects, and may ask more than what you're willing to spend. Also, about that, how much are you willing to spend? Though that should only be a last option.

>>15517809
>Happy Scans
Too busy. They asked me to help join all the double pages for Mao Dante (and to crop off the black lines at the side since I brought it up) and Devilman vs Hades which I have already done, and to typeset Violence Jack volume 4 which I'm gonna start soon since it's been TL'd. Oops. Did I say that?
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>>15517787
>scan quality
Can I see a reference for this? If the scan is halfway decent (Kanji is readable), then translating it could be done. Translation quality can be improved with editors/proofreaders.
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>>15517824
>Still hung up about that one instance that I did fix an entire year ago? Please, seek medical attention. Believe me, you need it.

Why are you so angry? It's a simple fact that you have done guesslations and write awkward English. If you don't like it, do better work.
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>>15517856
Anger is such a strong word. It's more understanding why you are so persistent. Do you really feel the need to prove something? Does anybody other than a select few even care when people just want to read something in their own language?
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>>15517892
>Anger is such a strong word
Look at how much you're freaking out. Someone said you probably did guesslations and I confirmed what they said. This is fact and there's not a damn thing you can do about it expect whine and whine and whine like you're doing right now. Stop hijacking this guy's thread, you fucking attentionwhore. Get over it.
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>>15517825
It's less quality and more consistency. A lot of the raws available are decent quality, however for some reason chunks are just mysteriously missing. I don't have everything I've found on hand (due to several archives having them being lost) but if someone's interested I'll compile what I can find together.

Hell, it might be best just to buy the whole series and give it to someone to scan for a complete collection of the raws alone.
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>>15517905
This seems awfully familiar. I think I saw similar to this before in a thread in /a/ asking about how to work on translations.

Anyways, if you have the entire first chapter (or maybe just one complete chapter), throw it in Mega or Mediafire so as it could be checked out.
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>>15517728
I'm a professional translator based in Japan who has done contract work for large companies. I have five years experience in translation and 15 working in Japanese companies.

My rates are usually 16 yen per Japanese character but that's because I usually work with businesses. In this case I'd be willing to cut that in half, to 8 per character.

I'm a Rockman fan myself (big enough of one to have gotten conned out of $200 by Inafune and still pledge $100 Red Ash after that), and actually read the Iwamoto manga back in the day.

Due to obvious reasons I'd prefer to remain anonymous if I did this, if you're interested I'd like you to propose some means of communication that would facilitate this.

Whether or not you're interested, FYI, the Iwamoto comics were re-released a few years back by Fukkan and their release of X4 has a proper ending (as the serialisation was cancelled, the original final tankoubon didn't include the ending).
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>>15517937
>My rates are usually 16 yen per Japanese character but that's because I usually work with businesses. In this case I'd be willing to cut that in half, to 8 per character.

You want to charge 1440 yen for this page >>15517905? Try again, xPearse.
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>>15517728
>tfw you remember Iwamoto only did manga adaptations up to X4
>tfw you will never read his adaptations of X5 and beyond
>tfw you will never see interactions between Martei and Alia as they compete between one another for X's attention while X is too busy with saving the world, crying over Zero, or both.
>tfw you will never see how he fixes the train wreck that is X7's story, and make Axl a much more bearable character.
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>>15517954
112 characters x 8 yen would be 896. This is extremely low for professional work.

And I'm afraid to say that I am most definitely not any of these fan translators you seem to be a fan of, sorry.
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>>15517971
>112 characters
There are definitely not that few on that page. Either way, that's a ridiculous rate. Even if we went by your dubious counting method, that's still somewhere in the ballpark of $1000 per volume.
>And I'm afraid to say that I am most definitely not any of these fan translators you seem to be a fan of, sorry.
When you made your post about rates, the poster count of 7 did not change and it was pretty obvious from the first comments who was who.
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>>15517971
>>15517937
>>15517728
Alternatively, I would be open to a fixed price per page, perhaps 800 yen.

I forgot to add that this is for translation only, insertion of the text is not included.

>>15517987
I'm >>15517815
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>>15517995
>fixed price per page, perhaps 800 yen.
Given that the standard manga volume is about 200 pages, you want someone to pay you roughly $1400 just for a translation?
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>>15517995
For 800 JPY (roughly 7 USD) per page for only the translation, you have tough competition for those who accepts commissioned work along with typesetting/text-insertion for half the price. Not to mention, you have no credentials attached to your name yet (assuming you'd keep your anonymity and not disclose your actual job).
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>>15518010
The Fukkan release of Rockman X (which covers all the volumes in the old series) is 556 pages which would be 444800 yen, or $3906 USD.

>>15518028
I understand entirely, but I can assure you that no professional based in Japan, where unauthorised translations are outright illegal, would be willing to work on this without their anonymity.

The price I'm offering is very low for a professional translation, and typesetting and text insertion is also not a standard for translators (though most agencies will cover that, albeit for an additional cost). If you're unwilling to pay for a professional translation then maybe looking into a freelancer might be better for you.

I can even recommend you a site, in fact:

http://www.lancers.jp/

That site lets you put up a job and have freelancers give you offers, which might be better for this case.
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OP, use mangaupdates, madokami, bakabt or even tumblr to cross-reference what is scanlated and what is not.

there isnt a easy way, some groups scanlate and do not add into Mangaupdates, like the guy from /m/ who translated and typesetted angel cop, but for those who doesnt get here, they wouldnt know.

https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5563
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The brazilian Mega Man comic is the best Mega Man comic out there, pure insanity.
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>>15518062
If anybody wondered about the dangers of letting the fans run things, that has to be the first exhibit shown.
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>>15518062
this
I love the old goofy BonBon comics of the original games, but BR Mega Man is next level shit
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>>15518042
>The price I'm offering is very low for a professional translation
We're in a time wherein a fan, non-professional will be used for official release like Rosenkreuzstilette (not sure if Muvluv's taking the same route). Not saying that all fan translation are up to stuff seeing there's people like CGrascal.

Just saying that, an anonymous poster in 4chan offering a high price tag for a translation with no history to show off would be a hard sell as opposed to an established (not profession in the sense but has an actual track record of prior releases) online translator who could do a passable job and some more.
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>>15518067
the problem was that the author was not even fan of mega man, he was a really crazy guy who got mad that there was an opportunity to make a national comic and he couldn't do an original idea and go by what foreigners want.

Knowing the history of that guy, he FUCKING SURE would shitpost on 4chan, or maybe not, because he wouldn't get any attention.
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>>15518072
I understand entirely.

Ironically, due to confidentiality stuff, I wouldn't be able to reveal my biggest clients even if I weren't anonymous.

To be honest I think Lancers would be the best bet for you in this case. A vast majority of English-speaking fan translators very clearly have lacking skills, and I think you should be able to get offers as low as 3-4 yen per character there for a project like this.

And like I said before, if you do this then do use the Fukkan re-releases and not the old tankoubon. They have additional content and fixes and an actual ending to X4.
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>>15517914
Sorry, was in the shower. I don't have a raw of X1, but here's X2's first volume.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/dry8r6f7dyc1dz6/X2+01.ZIP
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>>15517892
>filename
Ebin. You could at least name it the way DPS actually named it so it would be kind of funny
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>>15518188
>inb4 he accuses you of being them
I wonder why he posted that in the first place. Does he have some sort of grudge?
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Dr. Neko translated the first 3 volumes of the manga (the entire X1 storyline) way back in the day.

>http://www.drneko.com/scanlation/rmseries/rmx/manga/index.php
I really miss when the communities and forums existed... It was the beggining of the end when ZX and Star Force (then teased as ZN) first-showed artworks and everyone threw a shitfit from the getgo.
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>>15518196
Yeah, but his scanlation is a bit subpar, as well as completely missing the latter half of the last chapter.
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>>15518248
Wasn't the latter half eventually finished?
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>>15518250
If it was, I haven't been able to find it.
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Why is the Mega Man community so half-assed?
>Stream took literal years to be finished, and it was by multiple groups.
>No EXE or Axess re-sub with the existing higher-quality DVD/BD rips.
>No Iwamoto Rockman
>Took so long to fucking translate Megamix, Udon finally beat them to the punch.
>Still no Gigamix.
It's a shitshow.
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>>15518269
>Why is the Mega Man community so half-assed?
this thread's

>I'm willing to pay for a real translation

>okay I'll do it for a fraction of the market price

>nah why should i pay for a real translation when a fansubber could do it for $5

is hilarious tho
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>>15518269
Gigamix was brought over by Udon.
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>>15518282
Don't lump everyone together like that. I'm the one who said I'd pay, but the guy who offered and the one arguing with him are two people who went off on their own tangent. I'm still looking at my options, but before I can even do anything the manga itself needs to get fully scanned. I'm going to compile everything that's online when I get the chance and figure out which volumes I need to purchase so we at least have a complete set of raws.
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>>15518292
so it's

>I'm willing to pay for a real translation

>okay I'll do it for a fraction of the market price

>i'll just ignore this guy and let some dumbass argue with him about the price lol

?
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>>15518282
>Meanwhile other communities translate shit free out of love for a series
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was megamix released digitally? If so, somebody could rip it like they did with Captain Commando.
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>>15518307
You need to focus on what you read. I haven't replied to >>15517937 yet in any capacity, whatsoever, I've been more researching what needs to be done before I make any sort of decision whatsoever. He made his offer, and I read it, but that's about it. Someone else (or maybe even several) responded to him and that reply chain went all on its own.

Honestly, it seems like you're going out of your way to start a problem for the sake of it more than anything else. Quit that.
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>>15518331
nah I just think you niggers are half-assed
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>>15518193
He just likes to post funny images alongside his posts and finds the original Getter manga to look funny. That's it. The important thing to keep in mind about xpearse is to not take anything he says very seriously. Or at all, depending on what's going on.
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>>15518331
OP, here's my advice to you about pricing.

First off, what do you want done? Just a translation? Or a full scanlation? What about sound effects/redrawing/scanning/etc? What kind of raws are there publicly? There was a talk about another edition of the manga with expanded material. If so, that's going to make the whole process two to three times more time consuming.

Then it really depends on who is actually going to put in the work. Obviously, finding someone who has some form of interest in the manga is probably going to cost a lot less than someone who is just in it for the dough.

If you were to price it for someone who has no personal interest in the project, it's going to add up real quick to something pricey. Most under the table projects like this cost $1 to $3 a page. Yikes. That's lower than any wage would be for a legitimate project, but it's extremely costly if you're just a desperate fan. If you want to make this reasonable for your wallet, you have to find someone willing to do this for literally a quarter per page or something equally ridiculous.

So in the end, you're left with finding someone who personally wants to do the project. You might pay them some change per page, but since it's only going to be a side project to them unless they're NEET, it's going to take more time than usual.

Personally, I just don't think it's viable for fans to fund manga translations without crowd funding, which is often a disastrous effort. It's simply too costly for a single person and there's issues with finding anyone to work on it. I have seen some group start to use patreon-like systems, but that just seems like trouble. I wish you luck.
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>>15518196
>>15518248
Speaking of Dr. Neko, whatever happened to him? Did he die?
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>>15518269
You forgot to mention that the Rockman & Forte scanlation was never finished.

Which is too bad, because its version of Bass is fun.
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>>15517728
I'll do it for $2 a page but no typesetting.
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>>15519099
that's the one with Wily addressing Earth while wearing his boxers, right?
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>>15518399
> $1-3 a page
>This is extremely costly
Nigga that can't make it over $300. That ain't "extremely costly", that's one month's disposable income.
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>>15519387
In what way do you mean this?
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>>15519387
>> $1-3 a page
>>This is extremely costly
>Nigga that can't make it over $300

>>15518042
>The Fukkan release of Rockman X (which covers all the volumes in the old series) is 556 pages
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apparently X2 was translated (with questionable quality but hey I'm not complaining), but I only have one chapter
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>>15517728
>Hello, /m/. What do you all know of getting a manga translated

There are folks doing translations for hire, many of the bigger porn-translaters do just that.

The usual course is to find a translator and to do the editing yourself as it's a skill you can master more easily than the language.
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>>15519387
It's 12 volumes worth of manga.
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>>15518365
Correct. Though I'm not always funposting. It can be both.

>>15519387
But the point is that nobody is going to pay that even if they have the money. Besides, I don't think anyone has ever commissioned somebody to TL a manga for a good bit of money or as high as that. It's just too unreasonable.

>>15519593
I wouldn't exactly trust those hentai scanlators, but it depends who it is, I guess.

>>15517899
Does your mind warp every situation to benefit your own point of view?
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>>15520421
Stop shitposting, xPearse.
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>>15519351
Not interested?
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>>15517728
>Iwamoto Rockman X manga
Don't do it, it ends abruptly in the middle of X4 and it hurts.
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>>15521178

>>15517937
>Whether or not you're interested, FYI, the Iwamoto comics were re-released a few years back by Fukkan and their release of X4 has a proper ending (as the serialisation was cancelled, the original final tankoubon didn't include the ending).

>>15518097
>And like I said before, if you do this then do use the Fukkan re-releases and not the old tankoubon. They have additional content and fixes and an actual ending to X4.
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>>15521195
Yeah I know of the bonus chapters Iwamoto added to the reprint. However, they jump straight to the ending, specifically Zero and X's final boss fights. Even so, it's done at a frantic pace. It's a nice closure to my childhood read, but it's still a reminder of capcom fucking things up.
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