Thoughts on Build Fighters Try?

Worse everything.

>>15500871
I'm gonna be honest here and say fumina has more sex appeal than china.

>>15500878
If that's your only attribute towards making a character good then just go read a doujin.

Aila has more sex appeal than Fumina anyway.

>>15500878
Aila

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>>15500892
well this thread is going to be fun.

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Why is the dub so bad? Even AniMax's GetBackers dub wasn't this horrendous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3DnPTOJhnI&index=11&list=PLTrs6ma44phzQCGBFEOAvA0x6mlsVZJEt

>>15500898

>Implying threads discussing Gundam shows and people their respective opinions are not fun

You must be new here.

>>15500859
>Thoughts on Build Fighters Try?

I just rewatched the final episode of Build Fighters and then thought about Build Fighters Try. I was overpowered by great sadness.
Sadness for a greatness that fucking Sunrise threw away with BFT. Lets forget BFT ever existed man, it ain't real. BF is real, BF is the genuine love for Gundam and it has the best characters. Long live BF.

It was good but BF was better. They hurt themselves by not having the two tournaments be longer so that the side characters would grow. Really missed that aspect of BF. Did love Sekais Domon-esk fighting but just teasing us with Domon was poor

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Does this have anything to do with the first one? Also, what makes it bad? Seems like a typical anime, but that scene where some guy get's gangbanged in the park really activated my almonds.

>>15500906
Probably made for SEA

>>15500906
It gets me that everything about Try is half-assed, even the sub-par overseas dub.

>>15500980

The main things

Rather than multiple romantic subplots with development, it's a harem that goes nowhere.

Less Gundam references in general

Due to the format, every rival aside from one only get one battle against the main characters, which makes the rivalries feel weak and/or their resolution unsatisfying - like how the entire 2nd half of the series involves them facing new characters aside from two teams.

The team format is badly used. Many teams end up pretty much becoming one character and many battles quickly become just a 1 vs 1 with the other 4 team members knocked down or separate 1 vs 1 clashes.

Mediocre but entertaining (most of the time). It's biggest sin was being the sequel of a much better show.

>>15500859
I liked it, but I noticed that /m/ seems to hate it with a lot of the dislike toward it being unwarranted when they say that it's worse than the GBF because it's silly and childish even though GBF is guilty of the same. I just don't understand the double-standard people want to impose on the two shows.

>>15500859

They fucked up

>>15500859
Like SEED, it's only good for porn.

>>15501155
I would partially agree with this, mainly because the original tried a lot to be different from what was expected and do things that showed they actually gave a shit about the actual product.

>nearly everyone ended up in an actual relationship have you ever thought about how rare that is for anime
>fights were super dynamic and every one felt unique
>had a great climax that felt deserved

It's more a matter of expectations. People had no expectations with BF and it surprised almost everyone with the effort put into it. And then a sequel was announced and we had our expectations high, and what we got was generic shonen crap that threw most of what made BF good out the window because it would have took effort.

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They really wasted the fuck out of Fumina. Her design, her voice actress, her leadership role over her team, and even her initial love for gunpla was all wasted in favor of a half-assed attempt to ship her with Sekai.

That, and her initial sporty outfit was exchanged for a dull granny's shirt. You can tell that she fell victim to the soccer mom complaints.

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>>15501384
>her leadership role over her team

I liked it. Fights were better and it had a lot of awesome designs. Show would probably have been better if it starred Minato, Shimon, and Gyanko as the main team, and Tryon-3 was the main Gundam. Other than that, it was enjoyable. Not as bad as everybody on /m/ makes it out to be.

>>15500859
Boring fights and not enough relationship building between MCs and their opponents.
Also the animation was a major downgrade from GBF

>>15502792
how can someone be so wrong

>>15502802
Everyone's been saying brown hair team would be more interesting than the Tryhards since forever and I agree. They were considerably more likeable.

>>15500859
The show seemed like it was made by people combining a checklist of generic shonen elements and superficial parts of its predecessor without actually knowing why any of those things are or can be effective.

>>15500859
Dat qt

>>15502807
Everyone said that because the main cast, and by extension the show was trash

>>15500859
The fights sucked. Literally nothing else would have mattered if the fights were good, but they were shit.
3v3 was a mistake and was never utilized properly. The most interesting fight was the Crossbone 1v3, and even that had a shitty ending

>>15500859
I think that I'm amazed people still post in threads about it with the exact same complaints every time, and I say that as someone who made those very same complaints (and pretty vehemently at that) while the show was airing.

Seriously, it's not a show worth wasting time bitching about this long after the fact.

>>15502901
We're still bitching about SEED and that's over a decade old.

>>15500859
It's shit. Completely ruined what used to be a fun series by exacerbating its flaws to new extremes while retaining none of its strengths.

>>15500859
I enjoyed it, it wasn't as good the original but it was still a fun ride to watch with /m/.

Fumina, Shia and Gyanko are all better girls than Aila.

15501179
>Tripfag attentionwhores with his abysmal contrarian shitastes yet again
So predictable. Not even worth a (You)

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Wew. The girl or the mech?

>>15500859
Extremely mediocre sequel to a fun series

>>15503663
If it wasn't a gunpla, I would say girl inside the mech.

>>15502843
Tryon-3 fight was also pretty cool. The strategy to damage Burning's waist and cripple the team's power balance was great and should have secured a victory, but alas shitty writing had to interfere.

>>15500859
Shit-

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>>15500906
i liked the BF s1 dub

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>>15500906
>sekai has an accent
cor blimey

>>15501385
How much y'all wanna bet it's gonna be another Try OVA/sequel

>Tfw we will never be able to forget about Try because Bandai will keep on shitting out new Super Fumina kits

>>15504221
Blame the nips. Bandai wouldn't make them anymor if they didn't sell so much.
Funny thing since the nips seem to hate Try as well. I guess plastic tits are stronger than hate.

>>15500906
This episode always gets me because the face of Yuuma's nemesis at 16:09 clearly isn't Saga at all, it's that edgelord who shows up later to challenge Sekai.

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>>15504236
> I guess plastic tits are stronger than hate.
Sounds accurate enough.

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>>15504236

>Implying there is a single Try hater who hasn't cracked a few out to Fumina

>>15504255
I'm more of a Gyanko guy so yeah, I haven't fapped to Fumina at all.

>>15500859
It gave us Tryon 3. That justifies its existence.

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>people running in the ED
I want to die.

>>15504161
Was it also for South East Asia?

>>15504363
And Minato, don't forget that glorious bastard

>>15501356
This man, it's all about expectations. I watched Try first and while I realised it was bad, I had a good time. Watching as it came out with others also helped stomach it better.
Then I watched BF on my own after /m/ wouldn't shut up about it being so so much superior to Try. It's honestly a great show, enjoyed it.
Just now after reading this thread I watched Island Wars expecting the worst. Guess what, it wasn't nearly as bad as everyone here tries to convince you it is, but again expectations made it bearable. Best boy Minato still best

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Whoever marries her will be a lucky bastard.

>>15504381

Build Fighter and Try EDs were comfy as fuck.

>>15504381
>Was it also for South East Asia?
yup same VAs for the most part

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NANTE NAI

>>15500859
Fumina is a good piece of eye candy that I could forgive the Show's faults.

>>15504410
Wouldn't that be Sekai.

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Uguu

>>15504487
No.

>>15504487
Sekai needs to know what love is, first of all.

A chief criticism of the original Build Fighters series that Bandai and Sunrise addressed was that there were too many nudge nudge wink wink references and plot devices to past Gundam shows causing it to be extremely inaccessible to those outside Gundam's core demographics (Gunplafags, fujofags, UC only fags, etc.).

What they did for Build Fighters Try was they made it more appealing to normalfags, shonenfags, haremfags, etc. in a very broad way removing most of the barriers for accessibility. Unfortunately what did this is it made it a generic sports/tournament anime that the core demographics couldn't really support and the fact that most normalfags, shonenfags, haremfags don't like Gundam in general. Basically everyone lost. That's why TRY has the worst ratings ever. Basically it offended everyone.

Something similar happened to Marvel as they tried to incorporate more targeted elements in their comic books following success of the Marvel Cinematic universe movies. Turns out, most people who watch the Marvel movies don't buy/read the comic books, so there was a decline in sales as the core comic market consumer soured on the elements being introduced.

It's another case of people in suits thinking expanding the market is the key to increasing sales even though your content is very niche.

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Try was a good show, not as good as GBF, but it was still good on its own. A lot of people hated it for stupid reasons, mostly because they have a miserable life and they go onto the internet and take out their misery on something like Try.

>>15505012
Of course a fuminafag would say that.

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I pity Fumina

I wasn't annoyed by the constant JEGAN HOW'RE YOU.
I'd say it's a perfectly watchable series.

>>15505030
>one problem with GBF is the Build Knuckle
>and then they decide to throw it into every single episode of TRY

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>>15504410
>>15504485


Fumina is for breeding.

also i will never stop laughing at the part of the first episode were she ties Sekai to a chair.

when i saw that was like "the are just giving doujin makers their material at this point aren't they"

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>>15500859
Only watching Try for one character. First season was good tho.

>>15500906
An "English" dub by the strictest definition
Props to not being on Big Green's level though

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>>15506887

>Hey kid, wanna build some gunpla?

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Try has some good fap material and a couple good suit designs, but over-all BF is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrFQ-bfQQPE

>>15500859
It gave us Minato and Fumina. That was good.

They should have been the main characters.

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EXTRA THICCC

>>15504410
>marriage
>not hitting it and quitting it

>Kamiki "Never Lose in a match that matters" Sekai

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>>15500906
stoip

>>15501384
I agree that her love for sekai wasn't developed properly and she was a better character when her primary love was gunpla.

The love battles between the heroines were kinda cute but ultimately made the show less fulfilling.

>>15507754
>Kamiki "I can only beat childrean without my Burning" Sekai
Come to think of it, does that mean that the only one who legitimately defeated Sekai is Minato? Ignoring that he crippled Try Burning with the Tryon 3, he beat him using the off-the-shelf Kouki.

Fumina is incredibly hot.

Gyanko and Sekai's sister is hot.

Minato and Tryon is cool. Mecha designs in general ranges from serviceable to good Everything else is shit.

>>15501384

I like what you call "granny shirts"

What makes one gunpla stronger than another? Shit doesn't make sense, is it another one of those 'warrior spirit' things japan has such a boner about?

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>>15509726
>What makes one gunpla stronger than another?
Watch Beginning G. It explains that ultimately it's craftsmanship when building that Gunpla that determines its performance. Actual piloting skills come into play as well.

Other than that, it's the same old newtype BS that allows the pilots to manipulate the Plavsky particles with their autism.

>>15509726
>What makes one car faster than another

>>15510673

They are literally plastic toys that are brought to life with magic. Your derisive statement doesn't apply.

>>15509726
Plot convenience.
In try a snapfit Destiny went toe to toe with a gunpla made by the world greatest builder.

>>15510812
it was piloted by a super-competent pilot, though.
If it had been a Mobile Fighter model instead of a Mobile Suit, no doubt Sekai would have lost.

What's the best porn for this?

One of those shows where it feels like there were constant arbitrary decisions in the writing just to make things less enjoyable for the viewer.

The first show was all about establishing and fortifying a group of returning rival characters who would remain relevant through the entire show. Like a sports manga, really.

Despite Try being team based, someone decided this should NOT be used as an opportunity to focus on team dynamics and rival teams. Instead, any character outside of the main trio has to be written off as soon as they show any sort of development. And they had to make sure the final climactic battle was with a non-character of a rival that no viewer could possibly have any investment in.

>>15510812
The Destiny was used by a much better fighter (bothinterms of actual fighting and piloting) who drew out 100% of his gunpla's abilities. Sekai was a newb who at that point could only draw out like 1% of his gunpla's ability and in the end won mainly because Build burning was more durable than the destiny thanks to its superior craftsmanship. Stuff like this happens numerous times early in Try, where Sekai makes it through because BB can just tank most stuff. A regular gunpla would have been completely trashed by a lot of the stuff BB just walks off or ignores.

>>15509726
Try feels worse than even the most contrived battle shounen in this regards to me. At least then, it's just training and head on battling. Try continually shows teams coming up with new strategies and executions during battle. But the show constantly shows that strategy is BAD with things like the EZ8 team and Crossbone team and Fumina even ditches her support focused SD for an SD that just becomes another offensive mecha. In the end, it's just about who is the most powerful. While the original Build Fighters tried to show that careful craftsmanship and love of the hobby were secrets to unlocking the power of Gunpla, Try didn't rally put any emphasis on this. While it's generally the case in any show like this, it just became way to transparent about the fact that the key to victory was being a main character and having the writer on your side.

What decides the particle capacity of a build though? The show started making a big deal about particles being an exhaustible resource. But then things like the Burning and the final boss Exia just seem to be able to exponentially dispense particles just because.

>>15510875
>even ditches her support focused SD for an SD that just becomes another offensive mecha

Star winning is still capable of all the support it could do before. It just uses "Gates" now that do things like form barriers and super charge things that pass through them with extra particles instead of chopping itself up into weapons for a particle boost.

>>15510895
I really don't recall these gimmicks being used nearly as much once she got the upgrade.

>>15510889
>What decides the particle capacity of a build though?

Plot convenience. Although BB/TB have a bit of an excuse due to running a perfected version of Star build strikes absorb system (among its other particle systems).

>>15510850
Considering how inconsistent damage is in BFs, I dont think you can call that anything other than headcanon

>>15510902
Which just makes me wonder why the fuck the Transient Gundam was so special that it could keep up with the Burning for so long. Doesn't help that it had the least explored character in the show as it's operator.

>>15510907
>Which just makes me wonder why the fuck the Transient Gundam was so special
Plot convenience.

>>15504483
That ending scene in the first episode when they played this was fantastic. It's a shame that I never got that feeling at all for the rest of the series.

>>15500859
fumina top slut

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>>15500859
It had Gyanko so I don't entirely regard it as a waste of time.

>>15500859
It was bad. Only show where I skipped straight to the fights, and I watched all of IBO

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GBF news tomorrow

>>15500859
It had a lot of problems, but the biggest one was that it didn't focus enough on cute shotas doing cute gunpla things.

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>gets replaced by SD

still mad

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>>15511902

>>15504828
I don't understand this, their two main demographics for GBF were kids, who don't care/realize that they don't get the references, and hardcore Gundamfags who get all the references.

>>15513055
The whole angle of 'let's appeal to girls with cute SD Gundams' was really stupid.

>>15513340
Tell me about it, girls would much rather buy something like a Beargguy instead.

>>15500859
Fumina is only good for rape
everything else was irrelevant

>>15505818
That seemed like the whole point of Series 2: source material for Comiket, since Sei's Mom sold so well in series 1. Seriously, Comiket that year was Rinko Tits all day every day.

>>15513055

>cute sporty tomboy
>makes functional looking build with a cute coloration
>finds a dick to ride
>immediately converts to SD and covers up because she's become more feminine

Fuck you, Bandai. Stop ruining tomboys.

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Seems everyone wants Sekai's shota cock.

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What the literal fuck did he mean by this?

>>15513620
They're just being realistic

Show wasn't great. Fumina was ridiculously hot which was a bit weird considering she was like 14.

>>15513691
Clearly his bottom is itchy.

>>15513691
Ral's butt itches when he senses sexual/romantic tension.

>>15513691
It means you didn't watch the first season.

>>15513691
Nothing, awful TL.
"It's been a while since my bottom itched like this" would have been so much fucking better.

>>15502242
She was the only member, she was the lead in Ep1 and should have stayed the lead.

>>15510904
How is this headcanon
>The performance and effectiveness is 100% the fault of workmanship or lack thereof
This bit is completely consistent through both series. Simon only did well because he could fike like mad but his gunpla was trash so if he got hit, he was done. When he came up against Sekai, his gunpla was so trash in comparison he could barely scratch it even if he was dancing circles around it. I don't see how this is headcanon.

>>15513694
>Fumina was ridiculously hot which was a bit weird considering she was like 14.
Not weird, just unsettling. IRL is filled with hot teenagers. Nothing to be done about it except acknowledge it and move on.

Still should have been the MC though.

Why the hell has there not been a girls school team with Canards and a Le Cygne

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Oppai.

>>15513723
Yeah, that really bothered me, too. It doesn't even read right.

>>15513713
No bully. Am I required to watch it? *Sniffles*

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Hmm?

>>15513759
>No bully. Am I required to watch it? *Sniffles*
Why the fuck are you watching a sequel series when you haven't seen the first one?

And a shittier sequel too at that.

>>15513744
She really should have.

Either her or Minato really.

>>15513764
hatesex when

>>15513768
Most ppl dont want to watch an old show when their is a new one?

>>15513782
Kill yourself.

>>15513782
Build Fighters isn't even that old. It has the same animation as Try, and often better animation. Plus better writing, characters, fights, and robots.

>>15513782
>Most people won't watch epsiode one before episode two
Are you fucking trolling

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>>15511902
>>15513073
>>15513665
How can someone be so perfect?

>>15513823
I hope she appears in the BF OVA as a loli.
Both Sazakis are pretty popular so I want to say there is a good chance.

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So if you were a good enough sculpture, would you be able to field a robot from a different series as long as it's made out of gundam plastic?

Would I be able to just start smashing fools with Getter Robo or something?

>>15513764
Why is she so FAT?

>>15500906
This is a fansub, right?

Right?

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>>15514084
You misspelled THICC

>>15500859
I like how it had more original designs and unique suits vs GBF half-assing that from. And as bad as Sekai was, at least it didn't force drama on the viewers/audience like GBF's second half did with Aila's crap and MIND-RAPED Meijin.

>>15514135
At least it gave us SOMETHING to care, or not, about. That's one step above Try which had fucking nothing.

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>>15514168
True but my point was both GBF and Try suffer from a low of flaws and issues. Also RG fist spamming doesn't make enjoyable watch when most of the last fights are won that way.

>>15514192
Transient and its pilot were the worst part of the second half. My god did they drop the ball with the rival team.

>>15514246
>Transient and its pilot were the worst part of the second half
This is factually and objectively false.

>>15501312
>Try
>Literally no character development for anyone besides Yuuma
>Few Gundam references
>Unlikable main characters
>Haremshit

>>15514246
>Tfw I can't even remember the name of Transient's pilot

I remember Saga and Shia, but that fucker was so bland and uninteresting I can't even remember his name.

>>15514738
>That feel when you like the Build burning and the Transient but hate their pilots.

>>15500859
Sekai was the worst main character the show could have had. He was like everything bad about Reiji but worse.

Yuma was a tremendous waste for someone who was supposed to be the Builder of the group. In the end, Fumina and Minato did most of the cool building stuff.

Fumina was wasted on those two.

It felt like there was almost no point to half the characters. Most offensive to me was the Cziommer rip-off. The original worked as the comic relief because he and others banded together out of hatred for Fellini for stealing their women. Team NTR and seeing Cziommer's every attempt to get even at Fellini was a riot, meanwhile having some loser constantly being the buttmonkey with no explanation other than he's bad is not.

Also Lady Kawaguchi felt like pandering to the highest degree.

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>>15500859
I have fapped to that girl numerous times.

>>15513055
I wouldn't mind it as much if it was at least a kick ass SD like the Devil Dragon Blade Zero that R63 subject used, but instead we got the support unit.

What's even the point of a support unit when Sekai just oneshots everything anyways?

>>15514854
Problem with Yuma's skill is that they went with the "He's technically really skilled" route in a series where gunpla all have the same level of detail thanks to the animation. His stuff needed to be more visually flashy or gimmicky like Minato's to get the point across.

>>15516819
>he's not sitting next to Ramius
Boo.
Also, I was so disappointed that Minato didn't grasp the innermost mastery of the school while also not having a Maoh scene teaching him.

>>15516852
>didn't grasp the innermost mastery of the school
Isn't that just being good enough to make whatever dumb shit you think is cool while being good enough to have it still be an amazing build

>>15516880
It's fighting with an unclouded heart you shitter.

>>15516995
so how does that translate into the same particle manipulation bullshit that nils was able to pull off?

>>15517000
he manipulated particles with an unclouded heart

>>15517000
>Nils
Nils wasn't a part of that school.

>>15517009
I never said he was same school

I just said he did the same plavsky manipulating shit

>>15517014
Everyone in Try did plavsky manipulating shit, that has nothing to do with Minato as a character not doing anything that Maoh or Chinan has previously set up for the Shingyo school.

>>15517020
yes, but both chinan and nils had their particle manipulation based in martial arts, where they can perform physics-defying techniques and generate force and energy without even necessarily moving or striking

e.g., nils was able to totally counteract that tallgeese's thrust with no apparent thrust of his own, and chinan once forced all of the water out of part of a stage and caused enemy MS to explode violently without actually touching them

>>15517044
What are you talking about? The martial arts that Chinan use have nothing to do with the innermost mastery. Maoh and his Gundam were pretty much beam spam, but he still achieved it. Nils has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.

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>>15517016

>encouraging your daughter to have sex with her junior club member on a tropical resort island

Second best Build Fighter Gundam mom.

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>>15513055
this was her best design.

but this image was my favorite fight scene.

>>15517283
Third, since Aila is a milf now.

>>15500859
Gyanko needs more doujins

>>15517283
She wants her daughter to follow her footsteps?

>>15517283
are these characters japan's plan to increase childbirths

>>15501356
>nearly everyone ended up in an actual relationship
This includes the 'main bad guy' and his secretary, too, which is awesome. The only other example I can come up with is that comedy manga by the guy who draw that 'horny elf wants orc' thing or ashamedly, Power Rangers Ninja Storm.

>>15501022
>it's a harem that goes nowhere.
Why the fuck do they do this

>>15518666
They certainly are, Satan. Unfortunately, Fumina's mom is far less competent at it than Sei's mom is.

>>15519105
>that comedy manga by the guy who draw that 'horny elf wants orc' thing
Which one, anon? There's like two.
https://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=26574

>>15519110
>Which one, anon?
The one that has an evil organization, obviously, I just can't remember the name.

>>15519113
Thanks, I was certain it'd be that one. Seems it'll get an anime, too.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-04-08/miss-black-general-net-anime-reveals-cast-staff-summer-premiere-on-vertical-anime-app/.114549

>>15519110
>Which one, anon? There's like two.
The good one aka >>15519117

>>15514246
>>15514738
How do you forgot a name as simple to remember as Wilfred? How do you even hate on the guy who does nothing offensive in the show at all and is one of Try's better points? Also even implying Shia is bad or disliking Saga proves you have garbage taste.

Bet you hate on Lucas too.

>>15519110
>Unfortunately, Fumina's mom is far less competent at it than Sei's mom is.
Because she's just a generic background character. The Rinko of Try was Mirai, and we know how much everyone loved her.

Still, Fumina's mother has a very short doujin where she fucks Sekai, if you're interested.

>>15519246
>Fumina's mother has a very short doujin where she fucks Sekai

>fucks Sekai

I think i'll pass.

>>15519228
Wilfred is a vacuum of personality and Shia is absolute fucking garbage whose personality changes every scene she's in and whose entre existence is waifubait, only being second to Sekai with how awful her writing is.

>>15519339
>Wilfred is a vacuum of personality
Objectively wrong.
>Shia is absolutely garbage
Here I already know I can disregard the rest of your post completely. Neat.
>Shia's personality changes every scene she's in
>lying this blatantly

>>15519339
>shitting on Wil and Shia when Sekai, Fumina, and Gyanko are the worst parts of the show
>Shia's personality changes every scene
This also categorically never happened.

>>15500859
Fumina is a QT