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Watched Shin Godzilla yesterday. What does the last shot mean though? I am not familiar with this franchise.

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>>15463385

>>15463385
Nothing relevant to the franchise. Most Godzilla movies are standalone. It's just Anno being his usual self, probably something about Godzilla evolving from an individual into a whole species.

>>15463385
You can't just stop a nuclear problem, it's always going to be a problem.

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>>15463385
Physical representation of how close humanity was to failure? Imagine if a dozen of those things, each with the potential of endless reproduction and evolution, got loose. It would truly be a monster planet.

And it's likely also Godzilla realizing it was not beneficial to be a giant, lumbering target any longer.

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>>15463385
Godzilla was making an army out of himself and once he thaws humanity is fucked.

>>15463385
>>15463394
Society is the real monster, man.

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Does anyone here watch MONSTROSITIES? I think these guys are funny most of the time.

>>15463385
1. Good job, it's a great film.
2. Shin Godzilla neither requires nor expects the audience to be familiar with the franchise; it is in the same vein as a reboot but with the intention of it NOT becoming a monster vs monster franchise like the last ones. Shin Godzilla is much more Evangelion-flavoured, since the director is the same guy and he's a bit of a head-case, which funnily enough enables him to tap into a potent aesthetic in his works.
3. That last shot has many implications and its nature as an unanswered still suggests it's meant to be up to the individual's interpretation:
>It is established that Godzilla is a life-form that constantly changes and has a hyper-rapid rate of self-induced evolution to react to its environment. As such, in being kicked around so much by a committee of small humanoid creatures, its next evolutionary stage was going to be a committee of small humanoid Godzillas. The coagulant worked at the very last possible moment before those things got loose, potentially dooming the planet.
>Whatever Godzilla is was already replicating itself anyway, as seen with the dropped dorsal fin earlier in the movie which was growing eyeballs off it despite no longer being attached to the main body.
>Godzilla somehow absorbed dead humans and uses their biomass to construct/repair its body.
>Nothing but a simple illustration of human bodies writhing in the pain of radiation sickness, tying in with Godzilla's fallout and ultimate metaphor of nuclear energy dangers.
>The coagulant only really stopped Godzilla for a time and these things are very slowly emerging to tackle humanity in the ways mentioned above. Possible sequel bait.
It could be any of these, multiple of these, or none of these.

I hope you liked it, Anon.

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>>15463464
You may or may not believe me but I'm Max from MONSTROSITIES. Suprised to see someone talk about us.

>>15463385
Shin Godzilla gave birth to the God-Warriors from Nausicaa who ravaged the world in the Near Third Impact initiated by Eva-01's pseudo-evolved awakened form.

>>15463464
>>15463511
This is the least subtle shilling I've ever seen. Get out.

>>15463543
Not a shill. Honestly just wanted to know what other fans are interested in.

>>15463562
How long have you been watching?

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Godzilla rulers of the Earth is way better than King of Monsters.

Also, the ongoing was awesome.

>>15463592
About two years now.

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>>15463599
Half-Century War craps on all of them.

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>>15463599
Amen! This comic was rad. To bad Matt Frank can't draw human characters for shit.

>>15463503
>As such, in being kicked around so much by a committee of small humanoid creatures, its next evolutionary stage was going to be a committee of small humanoid Godzillas.
This is the one explanation I see most commonly, and perhaps the one I like the best. Meshes well with the movie's message (or one of its messages, rather) of people getting their shit together as a team.

>>15463464
They're okay, from what I've seen. Not that YouTube's Godzilla fan "community" represents a quality standard that's difficult to surmount.

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>>15463638
>They're okay, from what I've seen. Not that YouTube's Godzilla fan "community" represents a quality standard that's difficult to surmount.
Who would you recommend? What's some of the best you've seen?

>>15463385
A usual Godzilla Ending stating warning that the worst has yet to come.

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And it's as cringe thread right out the gate with the first post. A new record!

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>>15463363
Link to the /m/ Kaiju General: https://discord.gg/4CsENm2

>>15463657
Those are interesting questions cause I just said I don't like most of them. Nor am I that familiar with too many channels/people, so I don't really know what to respond.

>>15463363
Ohhhhh no, there goes Tokyo go go Godzilla!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnXaDKvterM

>>15463846
Well I assumed you would be discussing what you have seen and pick from what was least offensive. But my bad, anon.

>>15463759
This is why so few people come to your board, /m/.

>>15463864
Well I know some of the more famous ones people tend to bring up, like James Rolfe or Brandon Tenold, but they only occasionally talk kaiju and their vids are your average, mostly surface-level movie reviews.

If I watch these videos, I mostly use them as background noise, so I admit I don't always keep a strict eye out for quality. But there's Kaiju Noir (I think) who made some insightful videos analyzing the films. Another that I recall is Dark Corners Reviews who made some decent vids about the original film, but shat on the rest.

Then there's Kaiju No Kami, who most here on /m/ consider cringe, mainly for his presentation. I think he posted here sometimes.

I'm sure there's worthwhile ones out there, but as said, I don't know them too well.

>>15463961
In terms of subscribers, Monstrosities, D Man1954, Brandon Tenold, and James Rolfe are the bigger channels. But the latter two, as you mentioned, have the advantage of only occasionally discussing kaiju and thus the wider audience.

Cosmavoid seems the most passionate and charismatic of what I've seen and has the most potential to grow. I usually dig his music choices during his outros.

He can be cringey, though Kaiju No Kami appears to have a loyal following when he sticks to the movies.

Anyone have recommendations for great Godzilla videos? Doesn't matter who made it. Looking for quality.

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When?

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>mfw Brazilian
>reading Rulers of the Earth
>oh shit, finally time for Brazil!
>"humidity is so high!"
>wait, they told us, they are in São Paulo, there is no such thing
>now there is beaches
>maybe it is the state of São Paulo...
>Look, it is the Theatro Municipal!
>wait a minute, this one is the Rio de Janeiro One
>oh, there is MASP, so it was the city...
>they keep showing fights and other places from the city
>panoramic shot, next by the sea
>next they made Megaguirus carry Godzilla into Amazonian rain forest, who is fucking far as fuck.
>it throws Godzilla in a hole, where there is no possibility of existing in real life


Did this ever happened to you guys? I felt my jimmies rustled, it is really strange because I never even went to São Paulo.

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Can we get some Shin posting?

>burning goji in comics when?
>scrapped kaiju in comics when?

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Movie sucked, actors sucked, no twists, muh ebil america.
Why are japs so butthurt even after 60 years.

>>15464942
But America was the good guys?

>>15464942
>America supplied the intel to find Maki
>America were the ones who actually put a dent in Godzilla
>America supplied the Predator drones to exhaust Godzilla's beams, and the Tomahawks to bring the buildings down on him
The only way they were the "bad" guys was in pressuring Japan to let them nuke the monster that leveled the fucking city, to prevent it from leveling the rest of the world. And even then you see a bunch of American higher-ups expressing their reservations at that.

>>15464942

>I didn't watch the movie, the post

>>15465004
>>15464978
>>15464975
This is the first film in the series to go for the jugular in trying to elicit rah-rah support for the military and sympathy for the government, like the blatant flag-waving found in Roland Emmerich’s 1996 sci-fi epic “Independence Day.” Godzilla was originally imagined as a metaphor for the horrors of war and the devastation war brings to people, whether deserved or not, and how this new approach will play domestically and internationally is anyone’s guess.

his is a film fed up with the last 71 years of Japan’s relationship with America. Post-World War II Japan was aggressively demilitarized. Japan can have no standing army. Instead, since 1954, it’s had the Japanese Self Defense force—a kind of National Guard—for internal protection and dealing with natural disaster. For all external threats it relies on a treaty penned, post war, with the US.

North Korea’s increased shows of force in the Sea of Japan and Japan’s own struggles since the massive 2011 earthquake have rapidly changed the public’s opinion on anti-militarization. It’s reflected in Shin Godzilla, where there’s a very specific kind of pride in the military capabilities of the SDF. Is unusually hawkish—a major taboo since 1945.

Norman England is a life-long Godzilla fan and former reporter for Fangoria magazine who has spent months on “Godzilla” film sets and saw “Shin Godzilla” last month at a special industry screening. He notes a dramatic departure in the new film from the series’ traditional pacifistic stance.

>>15463385
You know that part where the scientists say that it could probably reproduce itself?
it started reproducing itself.

>>15465102
lol get butthurt more tojo

>>15465102
>Norman England
kek

>>15465102
I don't get why more people don't realise this. Shin's SDF stroking is uncharacteristic of Godzilla films in general

Although >>15464942 is still technically wrong, since the butthurt is only expressed overtly in the latest film.

>>15465102
>>15465443
>>15465454
FYI, that guy's post is copypasta.

>>15465102
And how does all of that translate to being an anti-American movie, exactly?

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>>15463608
Godzilla in Hell is a close competitor to Half-Century War.

You know what's surprisingly quality? The original Marvel comics run on Godzilla. Never have I seen a Western company so understand an Eastern one than when I read it.

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>>15463385
>>15463394
COMBINE!

Anyone have the top?

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>>15465457
no shit it's a copypaste of norman england's retarded review, dumbfuck

did you think that norman england posted it himself?

>>15463464
Yeh, I like his videos, can't wait for him to go back to Apollo Z. Hack

>>15463511
If it's actually you, how hard were you hit by adpocalypse?

>>15463385
>>15463394
god, shin makes me want to vomit
anal did a stellar job making him a disgusting monster

>>15464735
No

>>15467579
>anal

>Feelarooni when no lingering fear of nuclear warfare in the climate I grew up in and none of my ancestors that are close enough to be remembered died in war so I will never truly understand Godzilla movies, only see it as a powerful being above humans that goes about its own existence, destroying and fighting against other beings to establish dominance

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>>15464975
das right

>>15464975
you have to remember, even though she was a jap and we could tell that her """american""" accent was just anime level engrish words thrown in the ambassador lady was supposed to be american

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>>15463363
i want to watch the new godzilla movie in berlin but it airs late at 20:00 and i woulnd't be able to come back home until the next day around 5:00

>>15469382
go watch it, just stay at streets until dawn

>>15463385
A guy says that it can reproduce itself so I belive those are its breadings

>>15463503
I totally agree, I hope a 2nd part. And I did not know that about tve director maybe that explains I like the film.

>>15470240
Perfect advice for Berlin

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Did Toho loan these suits out to Tsuburaya for free?

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Found this on a friend's facebook. He had it as his cover photo.

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screenshot from the leaked animation of Godzilla 2019.

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>>15472201
fake

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>>15472201
screenshot from the leaked animation of Godzilla 2019.

>>15472218
Yeah, that's why the Facebook group responsible for leaking it has been deleted.

>>15472254
Wow that is some compelling evidence you got there. Some literal who facebook group with what could easily be a doctored screenshot. Sure thing man

>>15472267
just like they doctored the shin animatronic, huh

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>>15472282

>>15472229
looking good so far

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>>15472201
>Literally Showa Ghidorah, but in the shape of Smaug.

I'm fine with this.

I want to call bullshit because it's inconsistent with the cave paintings from KSI, but idfk

wings look like shit

supposedly there's 2 different leaks?

>>15472838
Elaborate.

>>15472838
There's the video and that screenshot. The video is no biggie, KG just uses his gravity beams on Godzilla and he topples over. It's a rough animation but I think they intend to keep KG on fours like Smaug, unless he stands up at some point in the film which will make him huge.

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>>15473248
I would assume that he stands up at least once in the film.

Also, This Ghidorah looks pretty huge by just being on all fours. Him standing with his wings out sounds pretty imposing to say the least.

>>15473248
>legendary is the biggest scale a monster v. monster godzilla has been
>ghidorah will tower over him
legendary ghidorah will be able to hork biollante like a fucking ragdoll jesus christ

>>15473378
The Men From Planet X just end up being The Men From Space Godzilla

>>15473248
Do we have a link anywhere to that video?

>>15466667
Wow you're dumb

>>15465454
>Shin's SDF stroking

>gets destroyed
>literally asking america and germany for help in the end
>scientist and constrction vehicles are a majority of what beats him

how come none of these muh nationalism arguements happened when japan had mechagodzilla made by the jsdf

how come no one complaiend when the JSDF helped bring godzilla down in biollante using the aneb and america literally was one of the bad guys?

>>15465102
>go for the jugular in trying to elicit rah-rah support for the military and sympathy for the government, like the blatant flag-waving found in Roland Emmerich’s 1996 sci-fi epic “Independence Day.”

>being so butthurt over a film that you make shit up
sad

>>15473480
retard

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>>15463363
Let's stop acknowledging the troll and move on to something else.

Shin Godzilla sequel, yay or nay? The ending left it open that it could happen, but it might be hard to just do another Godzilla solo-film and keep things interesting. At the same time, I couldn't really see Shin fighting another monster unless it was grown from his own cells that separated from his body and became something else

>>15473981
>Norman England is a troll
>>15473480
>>15465457

Jesus christ how fucking retarded are you?

>>15465457
It's a copypaste of Norman England's "review", idiot.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2016/07/28/films/favorite-monster-returns-terrorize-japan-shin-godzilla/

it's literally what Norman England said about the film, idiot

>>15473843
because merely pretending shitposting wasn't a thing until this place went to double shit so there weren't enough retards to parrot it

>>15473981
Thematically, a sequel wouldn't make any sense.

>>15475880
I agree, the ending felt like they dangled the possibility while closing it too well for it to actually work. I'm excited to see what Toho does next, but I hope it won't be Shin 2

>>15476273
I think the ending was less sequel bait and more muh symbolism + "this is how close to fucked we were"
of course some movie exec will see it as sequel bait

>>15478131
>muh symbolism
Well, that's kind of generalizing. They mentioned they don't know if the coagulant will wear off and Godzilla may wake in the future. It's the same as in the first movie when Yamane fears another Godzilla may exist and this could happen again, which of course, it did

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=udgfHtx2MJk

Proceed to talk about how shit this is

>>15478287
> Nothing happens in Shin Godzilla
An oversimplification to portray Shin Godzilla in a negative light. Besides, since when did having less happening in a film become a legitimate criticism?

> Godzilla 2014 has better characters
How? Anyone interesting is sidelined by the second act (not that we got to know them or spent much time with them anyway) and I'm reluctant to even call Ford Brody a character. He has less of a personality than Link on a bad day and one relevant to interact with.

> Godzilla 2014 has the better story
Say what? Almost everything about the story is contrived.

The family drama, which was supposed to be the meat of the film, completely fails to register. For family drama to work, either the protagonist needs to click or his family needs to be developed. Neither of which happens.

The nonsense with the nuke could have easily been avoided. Why didn't the military just nuke the female MUTO while it was in the desert? How did they lose track of her? They let her walk to from Las Vegas to San Francisco? It would have been more sensible to see if the weapon was actually effective before attracting all three monsters into a densely populated area.

>>15478268
yeah it's generalizing, but that was a big point of the tailmen
>WE ARE THE MONSTERS
>godzilla evolves rapidly to match the situation, humans kick his ass through teamwork, so he starts to evolve his own team, seeing how well humans work they're based on us
>like a nuclear meltdown it can fuck over the world in the blink of an eye, and can spread, keeping him frozen/contained prevents this but we have to keep it contained forever, if we screw up it just gets released again with no way to get rid of it
etc. I'm no expert but you get the idea

>>15478356
Most people who dislike shin either don't understand where it's coming from.
Or can't except change

2014 had a great start but when to shin once the dad died

>>15478287
Saw that review. The guy doesn't frame his arguments right and just has a conclusion already set that he's trying to push. He completely ignores all the characterization and plot details in Shin, while playing up 2014 as being more complex than it is.

2014 is good, but Shin is one of the best kaiju films around and easily the best Godzilla entry since the original.

>>15478287
I didn't think Shin was as amazing as a lot of people, but at the very least I thought it was a better constructed film than 2014. The human element was at least attempting to portray bureaucracy and politics in Japan in Shin Godzilla. In Legendary, once explains the backstory and dies, it feels like the humans just hang around and eat up time as a formality.

>>15478629
>2014 had a great start but when to shin once the dad died
If his character wasn't so well developed, I would've said Cranston was only there are marketing bait. The ads (at least in Australia) tricked viewers into expecting 'Heisenberg vs Godzilla'.

>>15473843
JSDF takes down Godzilla very easily in the Destroyah movie using the Super X3 too.

I'm confused as to who is showing up in what. Is Kong vs Godzilla going to include:

Ghidora
Mothra
Rogan

Or is this wrong, and the lot showing up in a different movie?

>>15471736
I'm pretty sure Eiji Tsuburaya was heavily involved with many early Godzilla movies and was on good terms with Toho, so it's very possible.

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>>15479086
>Rogan
iirc we're getting a Godzilla 2 and then KvG?

So yes I would definitely assume Ghidorah, Mothra and Rodan would be in Kong vs Godzilla.

Is there any version available besides the mkv version from The Return of Godzilla?

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>>15463867
Good.

>>15463385
Clearly a tie-in to a future Godzilla vs Aliens film.

>>15463503
>tying in with Godzilla's fallout and ultimate metaphor of nuclear energy dangers.

It's nuclear weapon dangers not nuclear energy dangers. The first nuclear reactor in Japan wasn't even commissioned until a decade after the first Godzilla film.

>>15478287
Are there any Shin Godzilla review videos worth actually checking out?

>>15472696
Best Ghidorah

>>15480432
>Shin Godzilla review videos worth actually checking out
Why would you want to watch reviews if you saw the movie yourself?

>>15480548
Just to hear other perspectives. Maybe someone noticed something I didn't. Maybe I'll come to appreciate the film more. Or think less of it. And it's nice background noise and stuff, anon. Am I the only one who does this?

>>15480555
Naw.

>Just to hear other perspectives
>And it's nice background noise and stuff
I do that

>>15480555
>Am I the only one who does this?

No, lots of people like to watch reviews of stuff they've already seen, and some reviewers specifically make their videos assuming the viewer has already watched what they're talking about.

Here's some decent reviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaJawyiHQxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqh8hkLViYs
I don't agree with these guys but they're worth hearing out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrZE8vhpRcs

>Decided to start watching all kaiju movies in order
>Already watched Gojira a few months back right before Shin
>Time to watch Godzilla Raids Again
>Start movie and immediately get deja vu
>Misremember a bunch of early scenes as being from Gojira and be confused
>Get to the last third of the movie and realize I actually already watched it right after Gojira

Why was it so forgettable and mediocre compared to the first one from just a year earlier?

>>15480943
> 1st Video
That merchandise in the back. That size difference between the two dudes in the video. That excitement. Especially the dude on the left. He's passionate enough to get you pumped. N-Not bad looking...

> 2nd Video
Audio is rough. But the editing is snazzy and I find myself agreeing with the guy most of the time.

> 3rd Video
Some of their criticisms are valid. Still they go overboard. In every way. The video itself goes on too long and it's a bit repetitive. The awkward silence is thick enough to cut with a knife. The flaws they mention don't make Shin Godzilla a bad movie. And they look familiar...

You got a balanced collection of videos there.

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>2014 vs. Shin
I think both were pretty good, but I'll give it to Shin just based on the way the beams were used. Way too fucking hype. I also really liked 2014's beams, especially when it breathed down the MUTO's throat.

I look forward to Kong v. Godzilla, Kaiju kino is upon us.

>>15481593
>trust no one not even your char

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>>15482046

>>15482391
"I'm huge now. Don't smoke."

>>15482391
that reminds me will the next godzilla game have legendary and shin? could they possibly get gypsy danger?

>>15482046
God I want a Shin figure so much. The articulation on the tail is gonna be amazing.

>>15482391
Love the sweat drop on Knifehead

>>15472201
Confirmed that this is indeed a real shot.
Apparently it was leaked to a FB group with several people of the kaiju fandom. Eso, Yount, Dopko, Bumpus, Hale, etc and it leaked from them.

The trust was broken and they are worried about Legendary finding out and firing the animator. So they shut the FB group up and let Tohokingdom mods shut down threads showing this picture.

>>15483813
There's 2 figures, the NECA and the Figuarts. Neither one is very good.

>>15484416
>Figuarts
Monsterarts, sorry.

>>15484350
Nah it's fake. That's an SFM animation using the model from the Godzilla iOS game.

>>15484567
Okay, that's why the people behind the leak are damage controlling all over social media and forums. Get the fuck over yourself. It's fucking real.
No, it isn't from the Smash3 game, look at the Ghidorah model.

>>15484593
>No, it isn't from the Smash3 game, look at the Ghidorah model.
I was referring to the shitty Godzilla model but alright. There's no proof it's been posted anywhere and people are deleting shit, you could easily just be BSing it. also
>Windows 7 layout
>not an industry standard Mac with proper software
sure buddy, sure. it's very real.

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>>15484600
Care to address why you've posted a response to 3 different threads?
You're damage controlling, no one is this devoted to trying to call a picture "fake".
The group it was leaked on was called Nebula M, the leaker was Alex, and Dopko leaked it to one of his friends.

>>15484623
Because too many people are idiots, holy shit. Why would they be animating something like that before filming starts? You can't actually be THAT retarded, right?

>>15463385
it means you like to suck dick

>>15484628
You've got no idea how productions work, do you?
I flew into Detroit to work on the Batman v. Superman set and animators were working on the SFX was before principal photography started.

zone fighter links

>>15484628
I'm not retarded but that stinks of damage control, why do you care if it's fake or not?

It's just a dumb iOS model according to you. Does this trigger you more than saying Final Wars is the best Godzilla film ever made?

>>15484686
I'm really just trying to push this as real by denying it because someone posted real concept sketches and our work so far on some of the Ghidorah animatronics, which were successfully taken down without notice. This was a diversion.

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>>15484699
Almost word for word on this post.

>>15484710
Thanks for confirming your autism over this, my job is done.

>>15484738
A "diversion" because you hold loyalty to a bunch of Facebook faggots from Nebula M trying to protect Alex and David Dopko from getting the animator from losing his job

You're doing this """"for free""""

>people believe a three headed smaug is ghidorah

Why do people have low expectations for Legendary? Godzilla looks alright, don't expect them to make a KGINO

>>15484848
Because they made Godzilla 2014.
Not to mention the director is a literal who and they seem intent on introducing the actors from Straight Outta Compton into their monsterverse.
They got Dr. Dre and Eazy E in Skull Island. Ice Cube is in Godzilla 2.

Godzilla vs NWA could be cool but Godzilla vs WuTang Clan would be better.

>>15484848
to be fair, people at SDCC for the Godzilla 2 teaser said Ghidorah's silhouette was just three headed Smaug.
>>15472201
why isn't ghidorah textured when godzilla is? why is godzilla so off-model? why are his spines stretching with his spine as it bends? even if it's pre-viz it shouldn't be doing that. it's just odd.

>>15463363
Kai jew

what did they mean by this?

>>15484870
It's the guy who did Krampus and Trick or Treat. Also, worked on an animated kaiju project for Disney that got canned because of Mars Needs Moms tanking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SmJC76KEc4

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What do you think of these guys? I'm thinking of picking one up. They're too cute. But why are the older releases colored and the newer ones aren't?

Who else wants Pacific Rim X Kong X Godzilla?

surly i cant be the only one

Gonna say it between 2014 and shin I'd pick 2014 simply because it didn't have Anno rubbing his Eva-boner all over it

>>15486057
But Anno rubbing his Eva-boner on Shin was what made it good, his directing style is excellent, it's just that his writing is shit, hence why Eva is a mess.

Is typical Hollywood soldier guy protagonist staring at some blantantly CG monsters as generic blockbuster movie orchestral music plays really better than Shin being Anno as fuck?

>>15486161
Gonna agree with the other guy, Anno has a bad habit of trying force NGE into everything he does, all it needed was a 14yo kid being told to " get in the damn robot" , 2014 was bland as hell but at least Godzilla's design was solid and it proved Godzilla could still make bank off the mainstream audience, neither even holds a torch to 54 or biollante either

>>15486217
>Biollante
Okay, seriously, can someone explain why everyone likest his movie so much? I've seen all the Godzilla films, and Biollante just came off as boring to me. Maybe it's because I don't really like the kaiju stuff in the Hesei series in the first place, but I never saw what people liked in that movie.

To me, the top 3 Godzilla films are '54, GMK, and Shin, with Terror of Mechagodzilla as a close 4th.

>>15486413
It's a decent movie with a really cool monster. The effects are way better than every movie following it, so ignorant teenagers and nostalgic 20 year olds place it super fucking high. It was also elusive for a bit. It's definitely not as good as anything in the 60's, maybe excluding Revenge and DAM.

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>>15486413
>Terror of Mechagodzilla
It has its moments. But this movie is all over the place and for me it falls outside the top ten.

>yfw Anno broke reality
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39768110

>>15467579
Just because he likes butt stuff doesn't mean he's a monster, jeez

>>15487418
Aww, how nice. I hope they get to be a real militarized country again.

>>15486537
Biolllante is cool but it's probably my fifth favorite, Mothra vs Godzilla is probably #1
A major problem I had with shin was his design being all Cronenburg and shit, Anno should've just stuck to the nuclear allegory, maybe shown people suffering from radiation poisoning, probably left the areas Godzilla moved through as uninhabitable, that shit about the contamination clearing in such a short period was bullshit

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>>15487310
To me, Terror of Mechagodzilla is the perfect version of the alien invaders formula. It doesn't do anything new, but everything it does do is perfect. It has great, memorable characters, fantastic kaiju fight, it was the first time Godzilla fought more than one monster on his own, had compelling human drama that kept their scenes from being boring, was just the right length, and it has best Mecha-G. What more can you want?

>>15487418
Japan has been trying to rebuild (no pun intended) its army for years. Trump might be the push the Japanese right wing was expecting.

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>>15488824

> the perfect version of the alien invaders formula
Monster Zero

> it was the first time Godzilla fought more than one monster on his own
Mothra vs Godzilla

> compelling human drama and memorable characters
I like the concept. Just don't think they nailed the execution. The campy nature (namely their suits) of the aliens is a jarring contrast to the overall tone of the film. Akihiko Hirata, usually a dependable actor, is never convincing as Dr. Mafune. His death scene is the highlight of his poor performance. MechaGodzilla's chaotic personality has been muted. I guess it was done to make room for Titanosaurus. But it's still disappointing. And the romance falls on the weak side of things.

Still, there are things that I enjoyed. The attack on Tokyo by MechaGodzilla and Titanosaurus is a showstopper. Godzilla has one of his best entrances ever. Katsura and her sacrifice is one of most intriguing ideas in the franchise. Ifukube returns to remind us that he is the best Godzilla composer. Lastly, the battle between the three monsters was pretty creative and entertaining.

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Reminder: Unless you count the pornographic images behind the drivers in Godzilla vs Megalon, Honda was the only Godzilla director to include female nudity in his films.

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>>15488824
I'll agree, although for me a lot of it also has to do with that fact that I think it was the first Godzilla film I ever watched. Either that or Godzilla's Revenge, but I prefer to think it was this one. I think everybody has their first high on their personal list

>>15488981
for realz Monster Zero a best

>>15488999
Is the right from the original Godzilla? I don't remember it.

>>15489050
Yep. It is. Oddly enough, his first film and his last film..

>>15488981
>Monster Zero
Oh God no. That one has waaaaaay too many human stuff. And not in the 'Godzilla 2014' had way too much human stuff, but in the actual sense. It's so dull with long stretches of nothing happening.

It's not even the best Ghidorah movie. That would be his introductory one.

>>15488999
At least there's still plenty of Godzilla manga for our titty fix.

Or, non-Godzilla movies from Godzilla directors. Like half of Kaneko's stuff was softcore.

>>15489836
>plenty of Godzilla manga for our titty fix.
Where?

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>>15489819
Monster Zero works because of its human drama. The characters are so much fun to watch. Nick Adams and Akira Takarada are a dream team. And the Xiliens, all be it a tad goofy, are the most interesting alien species to come out of these films. Never really feels the monsters have such a small amount of screen time. Godzilla 2014 had to the audacity to be dull (focus on a single "character" for 2/3 of its running time), thirty minutes longer, and feature very little of the main character.

>>15490141
I dunno, it's been a while since I've watched it, but I remember finding Monster Zero terribly boring and not being taken in by the characters at all.

>>15490453
Not him, but I watched both of them recently and I liked Monster Zero more than Terror. However I may be a little biased because I was really tired when I watched Terror.

anyone have the subtitles from subanon? I didn't get to download them before Nyaa died...

I watched a stream of a BluRay quality rip of Godzilla vs the Sea Monster but with the original Titra studios dub on it. Even remastered the American title cards.

Would you anons know where I could download it? I can't find a torrent for it or anything.

>>15481226

>Why was it so forgettable and mediocre compared to the first one from just a year earlier?

It was a rush job that hit theaters barely six months after the first one

>>15489839
There're a couple chapters in The Godzilla Comic and in the Big Comics Original special. There's one that's been scanlated: https://mega.nz/#!EIxkSazR!W8Kj9-0watWddrbdA6n_A0qb6qJv2JUSbLCbjywdiBI

Shinpei Ito did a tentacle hentai pinup for one of the Gamera 3 art books, too.

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>>15491310
Then there's the movie that didn't get made.....

>>15463503

So its basically devil gundam now?

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>>15488999
Anno usually manages to find a way to sneak sexuality into his films. I wonder what happened with Shin Godzilla. Did Toho bring down the hammer?

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>>15491788
He was doing a spoof on Japan's Longest Day, so there wasn't a lot of room for sex.

Now, why Cutie Honey didn't have any nudity is anyone's guess.

Where can I watch godzilla films online? They're not on Netflix or Amazon and I'm not paying for Hulu.

I tried crackle but the site won't even fucking load.

>>15492150
kissasian

>>15488999
Wheres the shot on the left from?

>>15492171
thank you

>>15492171
Not that anon, but kissasian only has most of the mainline Godzilla films, know of a site that has the more obscure Toho films?

I just watched Rodan, The Mysterians should be next.

>>15479364
>>15479370
>>15479372
>>15479374
What are these from

fuck you godzilla

A lot of Godzilla movies just feel like an Ultraman episode that ran way too long. Space Godzilla didn't even feel like it had the content for an entire film.

>>15494593
Godzilla vs Megalon is the poster child of this

>>15492178
Terror of MechaGodzilla

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>>15492018
>Now, why Cutie Honey didn't have any nudity is anyone's guess.
Maybe to make it family friendly? But there was some teasing near the beginning.

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Can someone post the Godzilla chart? I want to get into the franchise, but don't have the patience to watch all movies.

Would you have watched an Ultraman series where Jet Jaguar is the Ultraman he was obviously meant to be and Godzilla was the aloof, sometimes antagonistic rival, and the two scientists and that stupid kid were the supporting cast?

>>15495182
sounds better than Ryusei Ningen Zone

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>>15495174

>>15495174

>Masterpieces

Gojira
Shin Godzilla

>Good movies

Honda Trilogy (Not counting King Kong)
1984
Biollante
Destroyah
GMK
Kiryu Duology

The rest go from decent to absolute rubbish.

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Finished reading Rulers of Earth, holy fuck, this was GOOOOOOOOOOOD.

>yfw movies will never be able to tell such expansive and full of lore story with visuals

>>15495999
>kiryu shit
>not worst in the franchise

Man and I though gundam had fake fans.

http://kissasian.com/Drama/Godzilla-X-Mothra-X-Mechagodzilla-Tokyo-S-O-S

Had no idea this existed till a few minutes ago!!!

>>15496814
Is there a english version

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I just watched 1984 and it felt a lot like the end of the Showa era despite it's the beginning of the Heisei era. Godzilla looked so weak and lost among the huge skycrappers and the army were actually competent. Even the movie was better before Godzilla arrived Tokyo despite it was his fucking movie, it felt like a tense political drama but after the big G attack it never knew what it wanted to be. The final scene was painful with the old guys mourning over Godzilla, like the old fans saying goodbye to the big G while the youngsters just saw a monster being killed. Probably Biollante was treated as the beginning of the Heisei era because Kazuki Omori was involved on that movie while 1984 was kinda forgotten on the continuity, but Biollante feels more like Godzilla's first Heisei movie, it was his rebirth. 1984 was Godzilla's death.

>>15497078
'84 felt like a transition between the two series in many ways, and yeah, technically speaking Biollante was the first Godzilla movie made during Japan's Heisei era.

Even the Godzilla design used in this film feels like an awkward middle point between the late-Showa and Biollante versions. It's got that old baggy look and a big head, but its face is also kinda fierce and animalistic-looking. Never quite worked for me, personally.

>>15495999
You forgot the Showa Mechagodzilla movies, upside-down Satan.

>>15497472
Godzilla 84 looks stoned. Even the way he walks make him look like a giant stoner

>>15497804
Hedorah taught him to hit factories like bongs

>>15497078

That scene in particular and specially that pic is kino though

>>15497915
>kino
Worse than frogposting
Back to your board you useless fuck

>>15497967

Rude

>>15495999
Remove 84, Destoroyah, and the Kiryu Duology and you'll have a decent list. Though I'd add Vs Hedorah and Godzilla 2K.

>>15498792
Totally, Destoroyah is trash. All of the characters disappear into command centers with big ass flap screens halfway through the movie. Not to mention the horrid effects. Gamera came out the same yeah with half the budget and blew it out of the water.

>>15488824
>Godzilla vs Space Godzilla

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Speculate about Monster Planet. What are we in for?

>>15502476
A planet full of monsters, hopefully.

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Is this technically the first Godzilla anime?

>>15502752
Pretty much, which is why the Urobutcher anime is such a big deal. Talk about whiplash.

>>15502752
>>15503354
Apparently Godzilla Island started as a pitch for an anime series set to have been done by the studio that did Tenchi Muyo. But Toho was too stingy and so we got action figures being waved in front of a TV camera

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Shin Godzilla's mouth is a homage to Shin Kamen Rider, right? Both movies are dark, "realistic" retellings of old icons and Anno is autistic for Rider

>>15502476
>It's not actually a planet, it's a moon

>>15503552
I don't think so.
And Anno is way more autistic for Godzilla and Ultraman.

>>15503366
Any more details on that? I'd always just assumed that Bandai was calling the shots on that show.

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>>15503684
Didn't reportedly Anno marry on a Kamen Rider suit? Besides, Shin Kamen Rider seems like the kind of retelling Anno would enjoy.

>>15503958
>Besides, Shin Kamen Rider seems like the kind of retelling Anno would enjoy.
Depends. Keep in mind that the whole "bio monster Rider" thing was something Ishinomori pulled out of nowhere in the late 80s, so it won't necessarily line up with Anno's view on the franchise since he got into it much earlier.

>Anno and Hikawa veered from topic to topic, at times reveling in discussing minute details of their favorite series (when Anno is depressed, he watches the original Kamen Rider, apparently) but one theme that kept popping up was repetition.

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>>15502476
I can speculate hundreds of normies are gonna get confused with that fact Dogora and Dagahra are in the same movie.

>>15503366
If that's true, Toho deserved what it got in the early 2000s. They couldn't attract young viewers to their Godzilla films and that's why a couple of the films had Hamtaro films attached to them.

And there was no reason for the rush jobs and penny pinching. The Heisei films were making good money. Didn't stop Toho from approving the Tri-Star deal and boy was that a mistake. Things went downhill from there.

>>15502476
PERSONAL SERVICE

>>15504121
The Heisei movies were rush jobs just like the Millennium movies, difference being Toho hadn't oversaturated the market with enough (just as shitty) movies.

>>15505077
I mean, with each series, they push them out year-after-year. Maybe they just need to take more breaks between films? I would rather have two or three Shin Godzillas than I would have seven Vs. Gigan or Vs. Megalon.

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>>15505143
>>15505077

>>15505373
Is KvG that good?

>>15505382
It's pretty good, but the reason so many people saw it was that it's a cross-over in the days cross-overs were somewhat rare. It as the Avengers of its day.

>>15505382
King Kong was super popular in Japan at the time. Which is why Godzilla lost. Kong was the bigger draw and lesser evil.

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I like Godzilla: Final Wars. It's a great movie.

Heisei Goji is boring because he can't wrestle and can only spam beams due to suit design
If it wasn't for nostalgia and cool looking designs Heisei would be considered a mistake
Search your feelings you know it to be true

>>15506809
The people who hate Final Wars hate fun

>>15506818
Holy shit, this. Heisei fights are the most boring things every. The atomic breath should be a finishing move, not Godzilla's main attack. It also makes characters like Mothra and Mechagodzilla, who thrive on being beam-spammers rather than melee fighters, less interesting and unique.

>>15506809
>>15506883
I have a friend who finds all the Godzilla movies boring except for Final Wars, which is one of his favorite films of all time.

I have only ever watched the first Godzilla. I want to watch and own the other ones, from the goofiest ones to the worst to the best.

I was thinking the Godzilla Collection that I spied on Amazon would be a good idea, but it's DvD and I'd much prefer bluray. Are all the films on bluray or only certain ones? I know that Kraken Releasing has some blurays, but I dont know if they have good extras/special features.

Help?

>>15505461
Thanks a lot for the spoiler

>>15507297
Godzilla's US distribution rights are scattered between a bunch of different groups.

Sony covers the 90s and Millennium movies and all those are on Blu. Only Final Wars, Tokyo SOS, and Godzilla 2000 have any extras of note.

Kraken has Godzilla 84 and only the Japanese/International Dub version because Godzilla 1985 is trapped in legal limbo. Biollante has a home release through Echo Bridge and actually has the most substantial extras of any US Godzilla home release with subtitled bonuses from the Japanese DVD.

Classic Media has about half the Showa movies and only on DVD. I think currently those movie rights are at Shout Factory, but they haven't done any physical re-releases yet. Classic Media's DVDs and the Criterion Collection release of the original are the only Showa movie releases with any real extras.

The rest of Showa is split amongst Kraken Releasing, Media Blasters and Universal and all those are on Blu-Ray and are varying degrees of Barebones releases. Like Kraken's only extras are trailers, Media Blasters has nothing because of some fight with Toho, and Universal's releases of the Toho Kongs don't even have regular menus and are Americanized cuts only.

Son of Godzilla and the original Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla are currently out of print and Sony's DVDs command hefty sums on Amazon and such. I believe that Kraken is currently looking into acquiring those.

>>15505444
>It's pretty good, but the reason so many people saw it was that it's a cross-over in the days cross-overs were somewhat rare. It as the Avengers of its day.

A lot of its box office draw was the fact that most of the cast were regulars in popular salaryman comedies Toho cranked out at the time... the Japanese cut is basically that style of comedy with montsers added to it.

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>>15507671

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>>15507671
>>15507679
You know, I think a great sequel to Shin could be done if it revolved around these guys. Like, Godzilla unfreezes enough for these guys to break free and wreck havoc. Maybe they guard Godzilla until he unfreezes fully, and the military has to try and stop that.

>>15507671
>>15507679
> Shin Godzilla is the prequel to Neon Genesis Evangelion confirmed

>>15490141
>Never really feels the monsters have such a small amount of screen time. Godzilla 2014 had to the audacity to be dull (focus on a single "character" for 2/3 of its running time), thirty minutes longer, and feature very little of the main character.

THIS

All those fucking retards eating up the whole meme "Godzilla's screentime in Edwardzilla is just about as much as he has in the jap movies gais" is just horseshit, and i said this before and i will say it again.

NONE OF THEM actually had sit trough all the japanese movies and actually timed out that shit, most of the classic movies are barely around 1h 30 minutes, then in the Heisei movies he had over 30 minutes of screen-time, plus they had better pacing, and no stupid cockteasing, and that reminds me, that other non-argument of "Think about it as Jaws, it wasn't about the monster, it was about the characters cause the monster never appeared up till the end, so its about building up durrp".

NO, that stupid shark only appeared at the end of the movie because the effects looked like dogshit!, so they cut most of the footage and only kept his appearance at the end of the movie cause they needed to kept the name, so they made it about the humans instead, as a workaround, cause they were embarrassed by how shitty the hark looked!, THERE'S YOUR FUCKING ARGUMENT.

But, if there is a godzilla movie in which godzilla has shit screen-time, is Revenge and Monster Zero, and even Monster Zero made it up with good characters and alien invasion.

BTW, have you downloaded the HD reconstruction of the american version done by RED MENACE?

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> Godzilla's Revenge
Drop the juvenile aspects and the stock footage and I unironically think it could be one of the best Godzilla films. A character drama about a neglected boy using lessons learned from his favorite movies as motivation to get through life.

Replace the stock footage with original footage and treat it as a movie within a movie (Godzilla vs Gabara) and replace the kidnapping plot with something more grounded. Getting rid of Minilla wouldn't hurt either.

Sounds like it would be something up Honda's alley.

>>15508163
>getting rid of Minilla
>the fucking reason the film was made and the guy who taught Ichiro life lessons.

>>15508083
Godzilla 1954 had 12 minutes of screen time. Stop whining.

>>15508226
> Godzilla takes over Minilla's role
> Still learn life lessons

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>>15508237
>would rather have Godzilla become human sized and talk in an anime voice actress voice.
>We'd lose the whole 'Minya has to learn from his father, just like I do'

Really deploys your Oxygen Destroyer, don't it?

>>15508240
> Drop the juvenile aspects
Did you miss this? I'm suggesting a straight forward Ichiro watches Godzilla movie in movie theater and is inspired by it. So the dream stuff and the like would be excised.

>>15508163
>>>

Some guy did a little tour of the filming locations of that one... it's still an industrial dystopia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHsk1KX00Ug

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>>15508083
>>15508230
> Godzilla (1954)
Godzilla Screen Time: 9 minutes
Running Time: 96 minutes

> Godzilla (2014)
Godzilla Screen Time: 9:56 minutes
Running Time: 123 minutes
Note: two minutes of this consists of teasing

> Shin Godzilla
Godzilla Screen Time: 16:04 minutes
Running Time: 118 minutes

>>15508083
While Kickass was boring as hell, I did like the idea of following the monsters' trails of destruction through newscasts and stuff. Like one of my favorite scenes was that montage with the shot of the airplane crashed in the middle of a highway and all the 911 emergency calls being played over it. Movie could have used a little more of that over the half-baked family plot.

>>15508450
That kind of thinking is what gave as "Cloverfield." I don't need some pretentious way of giving us a giant monster movie, I just want a giant monster movie. It's okay to be evasive with the monster, it's not okay to cheat the audience of its expectations.

>>15508514
Cloverfield's problem was that it was entirely from the perspective of a bunch of hipster douchebags you wanted to die.
If you had something presented as some editor compiling everything they could about a monster attack from civilian cameras, news stories, security footage, military footage, etcetera, you could actually have something interesting.

Like imagine if Cloverfield had taken all that mystery box ARG lore shit about the falling satellites and oil rig attack and put that into the movie and also piled on newschopper footage and stuff shot by other people instead of being a single raw video that's mostly about some dude trying to save his ex or whatever the fuck that human story was.

>>15507374
Media Blasters supposedly fucked up when they released Destroy All Monsters on dvd and bluray without getting all of the bonus features cleared by Toho, so if you've got a copy with bonus features hold onto it because the discs pressed after that debacle are bare bones, a fee copies of Godzilla vs. Megalon with bonus features got out alongside the bare bones releases so if you have one your a very lucky cunt, even the people who provided commentary on the releases claimed MB almost didn't pay them for recording them. Media Blasters fell fucking hard and the only thing that seems to keep them afloat nowadays is their hentai label, sad considering they did U.S. releases of Varan, Atragon, Frankenstein Conquers the World and a bunch of other Toho kaiju&toku films which are all out of print and go for outrageous prices online

Holy shit, Yoshimitsu Banno died.
This is really sad news.

>>15510138
Damn. And he never directed his Hedorah sequel, another Godzilla movie or anything.

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>>15510138
>Yoshimitsu Banno died
not seeing it on google news either english or 野義光

>>15510403
Yeah, me neither.
I found that in a SciFiJapan page, but the person didn't give a source.
Sorry about that.

New to Godzilla, what is the best one and which one should I watch first?

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>>15510403
>>15510508
No he's dead. F.

>>15511377
And his biggest contribution to the Godzilla franchise after Hedorah was being a producer on the awful 2014 movie. Knowing how Hollywood works, his ideas were probably ignored because the committee of old white men were too busy reading polls and looking trending topics

>>15511276
Gojira for a great movie. Monster Zero for what the franchise is.

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>>15511426
We missed a modern re-imagining of Godzilla vs Hedorah for Godzilla 2014. Shame. Japanese ideas with American money could have been something unique.

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>>15511476
>>15511426
>Americans almost literally killed his ideas
This is why Hollywood fans can't get nice things these days.

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>>15511492
Remember Godzilla Reborn? Joe Dante was supposed to direct a sequel to Godzilla 2000 that was intended to star Bruce Campbell, Jamie Lee Curtis, Scott Bakula, Christopher Lee, Leonard Nimoy, Ken Takakura. Other details were that it was going to be $20 million dollar production, cheeky (yet respectful) in tone, and the special effects handled by Toho's people.

Unfortunately there was corporate restructuring during pre-production and new guy wasn't interested in low budget films. Spider-Man was the big thing at Sony at the time.

>>15510403
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20170510-00050050-yom-peo

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>Characters in Shin Godzilla often butt heads with the American military, which represents an ever-present bureaucracy they have no control over.

>Amerifats think this movie is anti-American.
>Amerifats think this makes the movie reactionary.
>Amerifats think Anno is a Neo-Fascist Nippon Kaigi member.

>>15512576
I just think Anno is a hack that had a hit series that every weeb puts on a pedestal even though it totally falls to shit halfway in due to budget constraints and progress in character development falling to shit, but it was such a success that he rides it's coattails to the point of hammering Eva's themes into Godzilla series

>>15511492
I mean, Toho themselves banned him from ever directing another Godzilla movie. Which is a shame, cause I actually really like Godzilla vs. Hedorah. It's definitely the diamond of the later Showa films before Mechagodzilla.

>>15512108
;_;7

>>15507809
But why would I want to watch a Godzilla movie without a giant monster?

>>15514653
Because we'd have giant God Warrior motherfuckers tearing shit up.

Has anybody read this SciFi Japan article explaining how that weird time travel subplot in GvKG actually makes sense? http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2007/08/16/godzilla-vs-king-ghidorah-time-travel-and-the-origins-of-godzilla/

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>All these fags acting like they had to put up with legendary until glorious nippon made their own godzilla movie

get over yourselves, 14 was a fine godzilla movie. The lack of godzilla and humans doesn't make it the worst godzilla movie ever made faggots

>>15515327
>14 was a fine godzilla movie
So it was shit?

>>15515327
You get over yourself. Movie was meh at best.

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>>15515371
Epic response brah

>>15515649
>"no y-you get over y-yourself!"

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>>15515327
I agree. I actually quite liked it when it came out. But let's be honest, Shin does make it look pretty poor in comparison. It will probably be better enjoyed with time.

>>15472201
>No wedge shaped wings
Preorder cancelled

>>15515327
It was fucking generic Hollywood shit.

>>15516351
Here's yourENDLESS TRAAAAAASHH!!!!

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>>15517203
>it will probably be better enjoyed with time.
Nah. It had its 5 seconds of fame. Initially people raved about it. Probably due to the fact it was the first Godzilla product in a decade and there was the novelty of seeing Godzilla with modern effects. There's not much else to appreciate. The human drama, aka the meat of the film, is completely forgettable and there isn't enough Godzilla to make up for it.

> It "respected the character"?
Sure. But that doesn't make it a good movie.

> It wasn't as bad as Sony's abomination
Debatable. Though should you really be bragging about passing a bar that low?

>>15515327
Plus the Legendary movie is the only reason Toho had the balls to make something as weird as Shin.

A good, successful Hollywood outing giving us a more traditional Godzilla with a big effects that can become a big international franchise takes a lot of the pressure off of Toho, so now they can just do whatever the fuck they want domestically.

>>15518184
> the Legendary movie is the only reason Toho had the balls to make something as weird as Shin.
> Only
> Anno and not expecting something eccentric

You are aware Toho was planning what eventually became Shin Godzilla well before Godzilla (2014) hit theaters, right? Anno was contacted in January 2013, meaning this was in motion since at least Fall 2012. The biggest objection Toho had with Anno's vision was the length of the script and Anno worked around that anyway (which is why the character spoke so fast).

>>15515208

>explaining how that weird time travel subplot in GvKG actually makes sense?

But it doesn't.

The author assumes:
1. That the Godzilla of island legend was real and not just local folklore
2. That the origin of Godzilla put forth in the '54 film is accurate. Dr. Yamane puts out a theory and the theory is never confirmed or thwarted.
3. That if the legendary Godzilla was a real creature, then that creature and the Lagos dinosaur are not one in the same.
4. That the future people were not capable of tracking Godzilla even though they find him in the opening.
5. That the JSDF cannot locate Godzilla when Miki shows thermal imaging of his position underwater in an early scene
6. That Godzilla being reported as gone while a mission to ERASE HIM FROM TIME is underway is just a silly little coincidence. He sat in that exact location for two years and suddenly decides to take a stroll right then.
7. That Godzilla is still affected by bacteria even though he is shown moving just fine at the end of Biollante.
8. That somehow absorbing the heat, radiation, and impact of an exploding nuclear submarine would eliminate any residual bacteria when that's a recipe for elevated bacteria activity.
9. That a director/screenwriter he acknowledges as sloppy somehow worked out this complex time travel plot

I really hate that article.

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Just watched GMK.

I love King Ghidorah, but he was such a jobber in this movie. After two power ups he still couldn't do shit against Godzilla.

Good movie, though.

>>15494479
First one is from Ninja Akakage.
Second is from Toho's Godman
Third's from Toei's Captain Ultra
Fourth is from Giant Magma Ambassador.

>>15520079
I got raws for Captain Ultra and for Magma up on mega if anybody wants, it's linked in one of the nyarmagedon threads

>>15512576
this movie is never as anti- American as any given American flick is pro- American (flags in superhero films, the army being good guys). The pro-military vibe in Godzilla 2014 turned me off as a non-Amerifat

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>me reading this thread
you people are nuts if you didn't like 14 godzilla

yall put biollante on a pedestal when Legendary was literally better Biollante

fucking nuts

>>15520764
>pro-military vibe
>Damn near useless, made things worse, and the only victory they got was cleaning up their own mess.
OK.

>>15521159
it wasn't a dark comedy about Japanese Bureaucracy balancing against the will of the individual, either

>>15521158
Legendary's structure is more Terror of Mechagodzilla to me. The heavy emphasis on Godzilla's opponents, Godzilla's first appearance being like midway through the movie and the encounter being cut short, Godzilla getting his ass handed to him in the final battle until human intervention helps to turn the tide...

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>>15521158
> Legendary was literally better Biollante
> let's review
Godzilla 1989 > Legendary Godzilla
Goro > Ford
Koichi Sugiyama's score > Alexandre Desplat's score
Practical effects at their finest > Generic CGI
Biollante > MUTO

Checks out

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>>15520018
It was okay but I would have preferred the early script with Varan and Anguirus instead of Mothra and King Ghidorah. Mothra and Ghidorah just seemed out of place in this film.

Speaking of Mothra, they better fucking have the twins in the Legendary incarnation.

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>>15521334
>, they better fucking have the twins in the Legendary incarnation.

>>15521373
>Eunice Olsen's Godzilla character is descended from Infant Island
>She has to travel back there to plead for Mothra's help
>Everyone on the island is played by Mary-kate and Ashley

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>>15521334
Same here. Varan, Baragon, and Anguirus all at least look similar. Plus, then you kinda have a theme of air, earth and underworld. Though, having Ghidorah be Orochi was kinda cool.

is it wrong that I kinda expected more subtlety out of Anno than some slightly pretentious panning shots and criticism of government incompetence
Godzilla itself looked fantastic though

>>15507671
I think they are Politician Godzillas, not just humanoid Godzillas but specifically humanoid godzillas with political know-how. Shin Goji got defeated by a political recovery so it spawned politicians in order to counter that. They will be running for the government in the next movie.

>>15524407

You may think it was a parody or a critic, it is not, it's a, objective portrayal of the actual government and how it works

>>15525033
This is actually an interesting idea wtf

>>15525033
SKREEEEONK
(tl note SKREEEEONK means "It can't be helped")

>>15525033
kek

>>15519590

it does. you didn't watch the movies lately, have you?