Obscure /m/

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>>15442210

>>15442210
I was going to mention Boldor, but never mind I guess

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>>15442219
You can still post it, I just said 60's and 70's because it's what I'm most interested in. Feel free to post whatever as long as it's not well known.

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>>15442304

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>>15442344

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This is actually getting an official release by DMP, but it's honestly not very good. Designs really sub-par compared to what Yokoyama was releasing in the same time period.

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てつのサムソン

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Doubt anyone is familiar with this
大マシン

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https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/samusongo/28736218.html

>>15442502
>Large machine
What a title.

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>>15443370
It looks pretty nice

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>>15442502
>>15443370
Big Machine. Piloted robot controlled from the head, predating Mazinger Z by 4 years.

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>>15443432
It's almost from the same year as Cyborg 009 and has a similar costume style.

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>>15443435
>almost
That was a typo. It's from the same year as Cyborg 009.

>>15443435
>>15443439
Third fix. It actually predates Cyborg 009. It debuted in 1967.

Turns out Big Machine was also a combining robot and it was a fairly popular series when it was published.
>1967
>Cyborg 009 aesthetic before Cyborg 009 existed
>multi-pilot combiner robots
Is this the true innovator of the mecha genre?

>>15443452
damn, this looks fun.

>>15443432
And yet somehow it's unknown.

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Big Machine had changeable parts like Steel Jeeg.

>>15443435
>the first female mecha pilot was a cake

>>15442502
The human sized machine seen in the right hand corner is named Little Machine (リトルマシン)

>>15444343
Is it known if Nagai ever read it?

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Big Machine never got an anime, but there was a record released with a theme song called 大マシンの歌

All in all, Big Machine might possibly be the most cryptic mecha series to have radically shaped the genre. The mangaka, Izumi Yukio, debuted in 1956.He was born in 1938 and is still alive as far as his wiki entry is concerned.

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>>15444343
I wonder how it ended up being forgotten

>>15444407
I don't know. Nagai was 22 years old when Big Machine was being serialized and would not create Black Lion until 1978.

One blogger says this:
今まで永井豪の独創かなと思っていましたので、これは意外でした
"Up until now, I had always had a strong impression of Nagai Go's originality, so this comes as quite a shock."

>>15444420
Simply put: it had no anime. There are endless amounts of once popular manga and mangaka that fall into obscurity simply because they never had anime series.

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大マシン万歳!忘れないよ

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>>15444428
What a shame.

>>15444312
Because it's shit

>>15443452
I base this off nothing

>>15444443
xPerase, take your medicine.

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>>15444443
Ishinomori fan pls go

>>15444447
Keep that delusion elsewhere

Well the thread was fun while it lasted.

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>>15444453
He's posted proof, you haven't.

>>15444451
Sauce?

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>>15444496
The Moon

>>15444540
Why is the cover written half in English?

>>15444560
welcome to Japanese media

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>>15444560
Because English is cool, I guess?

>>15443440
009 is 1964.

>>15444694
Yeah, this. The second anime film is what came out in 1967.

http://sutorada5.jugem.jp/?eid=70
泉ゆきお「大マシン」の歌

>>15444435
I looked on amazon japan using 泉ゆき雄 and they had absolutely nothing from him on sale.

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https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/samusongo/20870683.html

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>>15444887
Most manga from that decade are long out of print. Amazon isn't a great source of old manga, either. I have found past sales of Big Machine, but nothing that hasn't already been sold.

The main professor character looks similar Kenzo Kabuto, doesn't he?

https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1031493839&ref=top

It seems a lot of 50s and 60s manga was printed under the アップルBOXクリエート label, which has since gone out of print.

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>>15444917
That fucking sucks. So much is going to be lost forever soon. Who knows what mecha goodness has already been lost.

https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/samusongo/20270256.html
https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/samusongo/17832683.html

サンダー大王

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>>15444959

Why is xpearse so insufferable?

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>>15446330
Just report him.

Submarine 707. Satoru Ozawa was famous for his battleship manga. I really like how clean designs were during the 60's.

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>>15446435

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>>15446479

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>>15446498
There's also a bunch of merchandise for the manga

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>>15446524
Along with doing a large portions of the chapters for the Giant Robo manga, he also made his own manga featuring giant robot(s)
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4775914502/
lots of preview images here and all the following volumes have previews too

>>15442210
Would 8man really be obscure? He has a wikipedia page.

So Super Robot Wars obscure is made of:

>>15442231
Za Moon

>>15446435
Submarine 707 (the mothership)

>>15444959
Thunder the Great

>>15444913
Thunder 7

>>15444435
Big Machine

>>15444420
This guy (name?)

>>15442491
Iron Sampson


Who else is there?

>>15448487
>Along with doing a large portions of the chapters for the Giant Robo manga
He was in charge of the first 13 chapters, but Yokoyama took over after that.

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>>15448901
Yeah, large portions.

>>15448896
Manga and original anime are untranslated and I doubt many have seen the OVA.


It's https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=61581

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>>15449056

>>15446435
>>15446479
>>15446498
Always wanted to read Submarine 707, as well as other mangas by Satoru Ozawa, but unfortunately I doubt that it will be published in the west one day or that someone would ever pick it to translate. Is the OVA of Sub 707 from early 2000's any good?

Anyone here heard of something called B't X?

It was a uh, "quality" series that someone mentioned to me.

>>15449169
From Kurumada, yes. Not really 60s/70s though.

When I was maybe 5 this used to come on tv and I was in love with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNBXDUnyW_8

Nobody else I've ever talked to IRL has any recollection of it, and everyone always thinks I mean Ultraman.

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>>15449153
Our only hope is Happy Scans. The OVAs are translated, I think, but I have no idea if they're good or not.

>>15449241
Both OVAs are done.

>>15449056
>Yeah, large portions.
It was about 170 pages. Don't exaggerate to fit your narrative.

>>15449524
What narrative? All I said was he worked on a bunch of chapters, you sperglord.

>>15449534
>Along with doing a large portions of the chapters for the Giant Robo manga
Very misleading. Just stick to the facts. I remember you originally trying to say that Giant Robot was basically all by him and that Yokoyama just slapped his name on it.

>>15444428
I'm sure that extremely generic sounding name didn't help either.

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>>15449546
How it it misleading? 170 pages IS a large portion of the manga.

> I remember you originally trying to say that Giant Robot was basically all by him and that Yokoyama just slapped his name on it.

Never said that but OK. I said

>I think Giant Robo had better art and there's far less panels of the characters making the exact same running pose. Could be because some other mangaka who was relatively popular did a bunch of art for it.

I don't know why you think I have something against Yokoyama when a ton of the images I've been posting are from him.

Giant Robo has 39 chapters (at least in the version we have) , Satoru did 12 of them. That's a good portion of the manga, dude. I think he deserves some credit.

>>15449056
>original anime are untranslated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTiysOs-91w
It counts. I even saw this on TV.

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Didn't Tezuka called Ozawa the worst artist ever?

Fun fact: Mitsuru Hiruta (Go Nagai's first assistant) was an assistant to Satoru Ozawa first.

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>>15451136
Yeah, which is funny since he's a really fucking good artist.

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https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/samusongo/folder/1515123.html

More mecha manga from him

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>>15451255
He also had a manga in production called ギンガ、ギンガ、ギンガ which was basically Yamato in premise. Nishizaki approached him to work on Yamato but things didn't work out. According to an interview with Yamato stuff members it had to do with them wanting women aboard the ship.

http://ameblo.jp/addicto/entry-11742087000.html
https://ameblo.jp/addicto/entry-11745153836.html
http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/798/

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>>15442279 "Green... [something]King"?
>>15442304 "Invincible Gouriki"
>>15442344 ...no idea!...
>>15442394 "Majin Garon"
>>15442491 "Samson of Iron"

Yep, never seen nor heard of any of these. Wild. And gawd, so many "I'm not Atom, really!" type characters!

>>15442521 "Majin Vander"
OK, I've actually heard of this one. Never seen so much of the manga in one place before though. The art's really good!

>>15442502
>>15443432
>>15444370
>>15443452
>Big Machine

1967 + Head-piloted giant robot + Cyborg 009 costumes + Jeeg-like swappable parts = I'll be goddamned!!! Why and how have I never heard of this before?!?

[checks Pixiv] Nothing.
[checks Google Images] Not much. Found this though.

Dude, it has cockpits in the hands! Funnnnnnnn

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>>15451269
This is Garla
>>15442344
It was going to be the next Nagai/Toei mecha show before they had a fallout, iirc.

>>15451269
>this entire post
Neck yourself.

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>>15451269
>"Green... [something]King"?
みどりの魔王
>...no idea!...
It says Garla right there.
>"Samson of Iron"
Iron Sampson
>Dude, it has cockpits in the hands!
And in its feet.

>>15449169
>>15449173

Same creator as a little story you may have heard of, called SAINT SEIYA.

>>15449189

Good ol' Spectreman. Damn that show was crappy. But if I'd seen it as a kid I woulda loved it. God knows I loved "Space Giants" (Ambassador Magma)

>>15442299
>https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/samusongo/folder/1515123.html

"Daimos"?!?

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ATOMICゴロー

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>>15451401
Has no relation to the mecha anime of the same name.

>>15442502

Looks like the head can be a separate vehicle. That's pretty spiffy. A pre-Pilder idea, fo sho

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>>15443432
>little child with gun
>"the M phone" in the bottom left

>>15451269
>dat cutuaway

20m tall, 100 tons. Nice.

"M" on its head; the M phone; the "M Note" (notebook) -- presumably for "Machine" (and/or Mashin). Okay.

There are ladder rungs running all over the inside, so the crew can get to the cockpits in the hands and feet. I love it.

And he has drills for feet! [swoon]

Tak. I'd kill for a larger scan of this.

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Missile Man Mummy
...or Mamy ...or Mahmee ...or...

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>>15451436
Good luck finding a copy. Maybe check Yahoo Auctions?

>>15451444

Yeah really. :-/

Here's a japanese page summarizing the plot and story. Google translate offers some insight.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/samu_t22/archives/608678.html

>>15451470
While I'm defending anything Tokyopop did, look at this complaint
>The amount of compensation for giving up your rights was blank in the contract, but Niki Smith says the rate was $750 — or $20 a page.
>But $20 for (over) a day’s work is awful.
If it takes you a day to do a page, you are NOT cut out to make comics. Period. It should not take you over a month to do a single 36 page chapter.

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>>15451748

No offense, but what are you talking about? I don't know how you came up with Tokyopop and Niki Smith and pay rates and all, based on what's been discussed in this thread.

On the other hand, you said:
>If it takes you a day to do a page, you are NOT cut out to make comics. Period. It should not take you over a month to do a single 36 page chapter.

First of all, in the USA most comics are 22 pages per issue (well, 19-20 now). VERY few comics artists can draw more than one issue a month. It's gruelling work! And even if you can do two pages a day (a miraculous rate of output) that means you can do 2-1/2 issues per month... If you get paid $20 per page, that's 50 pages per month, or $1000 per month. That's an absolutely miserable rate of pay. Lower than minimum wage.

Anyone who wants to pays a comic artist less than $100 per page is a fucking bastard.

(And yes, I know that manga artists regularly do 20 pages per week, but they usually have three assistants, NO lives, don't get enough sleep, are in poor health, and live in a country where there's a word for "death from overwork.")

>>15451748
Wrong thread, mate

>>15451821
>First of all, in the USA most comics are 22 pages per issue (well, 19-20 now). VERY few comics artists can draw more than one issue a month.
In Japan, many series are weekly at about 20 pages. Your argument is fucked.
>Anyone who wants to pays a comic artist less than $100 per page is a fucking bastard.
Holy shit, you're ridiculous. Have you ever even worked in the comic industry? That was rhetorical btw.

>(And yes, I know that manga artists regularly do 20 pages per week, but they usually have three assistants, NO lives, don't get enough sleep, are in poor health, and live in a country where there's a word for "death from overwork.")
So you just want to deny the entire downfall of your shitty argument by dismissing a huge industry that does exactly what you argue can't be done? Fuck, you're an idiot.

>>15451748
seriously that sounds like some kid out of "art school" who thinks he's alex ross or some shit

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>>15451853
>In Japan, many series are weekly at about 20 pages. Your argument is fucked.

I address that later, as we both know, so what you said there is nothing but wasted bandwidth.

>Holy shit, you're ridiculous. Have you ever even worked in the comic industry? That was rhetorical btw.

Actually I have, yes. That's why I said anyone who does that is "a fucking bastard" rather than "unheard of." And if you think Marvel or DC pay less than $100 per page, you're wrong.

>So you just want to deny the entire downfall of your shitty argument by dismissing a huge industry that does exactly what you argue can't be done? Fuck, you're an idiot.

I didn't dismiss the manga industry. I acknowledged it. And I didn't say it can't be done. If you're cool with churning out 80 pages a month by working all the time, having no life, not getting enough sleep, scheduling your meals and naps and bathroom breaks, all with the help of three other people who are in the same boat, and getting paid less than minimum wage, well then, knock yourself out. Just remember the word "karōshi."

And while we're at it, you shouldn't call people ridiculous and an idiot when you can't even keep track of which thread you're posting in. (That's assuming you're the same person who posted >>15451748. If you're not, disregard.)

>>15451900
>If you're cool with churning out 80 pages a month by working all the time, having no life, not getting enough sleep, scheduling your meals and naps and bathroom breaks
This is pure bullshit. Stop trying to act like you know what it's like behind the scenes. Do they have assistants? Yes. Is everyone on the verge of dying and in the hospital? Fuck no. That's not realistic and the industry would have collapsed long ago if everyone was like that. Stop trying to discredit an entire industry that proves your bullshit wrong.

>Actually I have, yes.
Post your fucking comics.

>And if you think Marvel or DC pay less than $100 per page, you're wrong.
You think every company is Marvel or DC and is publishing titles like Superman or Spider-Man? Get out of here with that ignorance.

>And while we're at it, you shouldn't call people ridiculous and an idiot when you can't even keep track of which thread you're posting in.
Whoa, nice ad hominem. Surely this bolsters your ridiculous and downright stupid statements.

>>15451921
Jesus Christ what does this have to do with fucking obscure /m/ series you absolute fucking retarded ass kid.

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>>15451921
>This is pure bullshit.
Pick up a copy of Shonen Jump sometime and read the "what my work life is like" features that Masashi Kishimoto, Eiichiro Oda, and Tite Kubo have written/drawn. As for the rest of your comments, you're too obnoxious and confused (learn to understand what "ad hominem" actually means) for me to bother with any further. If you want to feel like you've "won," feel free. Just please piss off back to /a/ or /co/ or whatever other cesspool you crawled out of this. You're in the wrong thread, in case you couldn't figure this out.

>>15451929
>Jesus Christ what does this have to do with fucking obscure /m/ series you absolute fucking retarded ass kid.
Agreed. Would "Break-Age" be considered relevant to this thread? It's not 50s-70s, but it's a fairly obscure /m/ manga. (Hmmmm... although it looks like it might have been licensed. News to me.)

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>>15451972
>Agreed. Would "Break-Age" be considered relevant to this thread? It's not 50s-70s, but it's a fairly obscure /m/ manga. (Hmmmm... although it looks like it might have been licensed. News to me.)

Huh. Yeah, there it is. Barely looks professional enough to have been licensed.

>>15451972
>If you want to feel like you've "won," feel free.
Yep. I'm right and you're wrong. Thanks for admitting such. Now fuck off and let the thread go back to what it was. Maybe one day you'll enter the workforce and get cured of your delusions.

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"Origin" by Boichi is new, but I haven't heard much about it.

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>>15451995
pathetic

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>>15452001
Noice. It's pretty rockin'.

>>15451921
Shit man, Togashi himself said he had to live on 4 hours of sleep per day, and around 6 hours of free time *per week*, and that was after he became a living legend as an artist. Every other mangaka is in the same boat if their work has a weekly release.

Unless you're a superhuman immortal vampire like Araki, working on weekly manga will consume the entirety of your life and slowly turn you into a wreck of a human being. Everyone knows this, nobody pretends this is not the case - not the authors themselves, not even the Jump execs.

I wonder if this thread can tell me if Tetsujin #28 was the first Japanese giant robot, or if there were golem-like robots, such as The Moon and Midori no Maoh and all those, which came before #28?

>>15452015
Doesn't Togashi refuse to use assistants?

Because most successful manga artists will have assistants to avoid this situation. It's a lot easier to avoid becoming overworked to that point when you have 2-5 people working on your manga.

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>>15451972
The mecha designs are pretty nice, imo

>>15452017
I think Astro Boy probably had some?

>>15452057
>The mecha designs are pretty nice, imo

Yeah, I dig 'em. They've got an Armored Core vibe, but the manga was made before Armored Core. Hey... it's even about a video game. Huh! I wonder if Break-Age was an inspiration for the creators of Armored Core?

>I think Astro Boy probably had some?
Good point. It pretty much must have...

Meanwhile, I wonder what the creator of Spriggan is up to these days?

>>15451972
There is an OVA of it, but no subs.

>>15451995
Nope, he's right, you're wrong.

>>15452199
I knew this faggot couldn't resist lel

>>15452221
childish

>>15452196
Yeah, I have the OVA somewhere. Ripped from a VHS copy I think. I'd love a subbed, higher-res version!

Was there ever a manga that accompanied Great War of the Flying Saucers? The pre-Grendizer movie with the Roboizer flying in a Spazer.

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>>15452168

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>>15452256

Nice.

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>>15452256
I have to say though, Yokoyama's designs from the same era are way better and have actually aged well. Kinda like Mazinger and how they're timeless designs, I guess. Tezuka's feel very outdated to me. That said, Astro Boy is pretty fun to read. I got the omnibus release of volume 1 a while ago and it's huge and very hard to hold.

Not related but I wish manga publishers for old manga would just use the original cover art instead of pasting panels from the manga on the cover. Pic is one of the better looking ones.

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For some obscure /m/, I'd love to see scans of the Beetras manga.

>>15444409
>still alive as far as his wiki entry is concerned
He must be the angriest man in Japan

>>15454129
I bet he doesn't even have an ironic t shirt like Arthur C Clarke

Astroganger
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mul2sCVfZkM

>>15454129
Not to mention none of his works are in print anymore

>>15454129
I would be as well, if I were an artist and people didn't even know that my works exist and were distributed.

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>>15454234
Also, he has a work about a giant flying Buddha statue 赤ん坊帝国

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3号発進せよ
https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/tamatyannanatyan/9849939.html

>>15454143
>>15454234
>>15454274
His last reprints as far as I know were in 2013.
http://www.junkmouse.net/shinkan/apl.htm

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>>15456520
偉大なるゼオ
https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/norioetochance/33116459.html

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>>15456838

>/a/ can't even make threads about anything that isn't the most seasonal, casual, waifu pandering moeshit isekai anime of the week
>/m/ has threads about the evolution of sci-fi manga from the 1950s onward
I think this is the best summary of the difference between /a/ and /m/.

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>>15457014
A lot of times I'd like to discuss older non-/m/ works but I've had basically no luck. /a/ is just way too fast for me.

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>>15457014
Sometimes there is some good threads about older anime and manga in /a/, mainly 70's-80's stuff. But because of the fast pace of the board and for indeed the majority of the people simply wanting to talk about recent stuff and current season animes, they dont last long. But they do exist and there is some good conversation on the matter.

>>15457014
Your post is a better summary desu

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One thing I really like about early manga is how they're mostly about pure FUN and prioritize that over everything else. Things like Giant Robo don't make for the most memorable stories but they sure as fun as fuck to read and always fun to go back over. Every once in a while I'll re-read Tezuka's Lost World or Metropolis or some chapter of Astro Boy.

DMP is consistently kickstarting and publishing Tezuka's works, I'd like to see someone do that with other important figures of /m/ manga like Ishinomori, Nagai, Satoru, Leiji, Yokoyama, and even the guy who wrote big machine.

I've seen that a few manga publishers have taken risks publishing obscure as hell gekiga manga like Drawn and Quarterly or the failed 10 Cent Manga imprint.

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So Ozawa Satoru actually has a twitter account:
https://twitter.com/ozawasatoru2005
And he's still a super good artist

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>>15457754
He's the coolest ojii-san
Be my grandpa!

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>>15457787
Yokoyama's mecha aesthetics live on with him ;_;7

>>15444887
Do you even realize what shitty paper they were using back then? I've never assumed one could find manga that old that hasn't been in a hermetically sealed container for decades

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>>15457879
You can find tons of them on mandarake of yahoo auctions.

Speaking of which, he has another manga with a giant robot in it and it's up on YA for 2,500 yen
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c588760181

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>>15457014
And it's 100% the fault of that retarded ass, mod-defended, "Spoon-feed" rule.
Which actually only exists so that pleb /a/nons can cover their asses and hide the fact that they don't even know anything that aired before they started lurking, that isn't Toonami
They have 300 reply threads about Sailor Moon but don't know who Cutie Honey is, despite Cutie Honey Flash essentially being an extra season of Sailor Moon.
The moment /m/ gets a "no-spoonfeed" rule is the moment /m/ dies

>>15457885
They have a decent amount of アップルBOXクリエート titles. I just wish they weren't all out of print, because I still can't find 大マシン and other titles published under that label. Really wish there was some company preserving manga from the 50s. However, years ago I did see an article about some manga museums that do house a lot of really old titles. It all needs to be digitized pronto.

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>>15457955
Yeah, will just need to keep checking yahoo auctions, I guess. The one with the giant Buddha is up there and it looks only slightly less cool.

>>15457014
so you saying that i cant like cute girls doing cute thing and old tatsunoko shows?

the fuck is wrong with you? i bet you don't like toku either

>>15458161
No, I never said that. Read the post.

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>>15458161
>so you saying that
>i cant like cute girls doing cute thing
>and
>old tatsunoko shows
>?

CORRECT

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I bought this anime when HMV was closing in Canada and got it for like 3 bucks. Thought it might not be that bad. It's really stupid cooking mecha show with MOTW episodes that are 15 min long wih tons of reused animation.

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>>15459710
damn mac flips my photos

>>15459710
Well I wouldn't consider it obscure at all considering it aired only two years ago and was licensed by Funimation

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>>15459774
Huh so its actually a new show, go figure.

This one I picked up for 5 bucks. 90 animation and haven't watched it yet.

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>>15459807

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How obscure is this?

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So what's a good yahoo auctions proxy site, I'm considering buying one of these out of print books like the baby empire one

>>15459807
This one relies on prior knowledge of Time Bokan shows (mostly just Yatterman, for obvious reasons).

>>15459710
>HMV
My brother of African descent! I was bummed when the chain closed in my region.

>>15459861
>what's a good yahoo auctions proxy site

This is relevant to my interests.

>>15459861
>>15460457
http://samuraibuyer.jp/ng/en_us/

It doesn't have a very good search function though, so just find what you want, then copy the URL into the search bar

>>15451346
>>15451269
>>15444409
>>15442502
Now i'm really curious about this Big Machine, probably aren't any raws tho.

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>>15460479
Shit, not too sure I wanna dish in 80 dollars + middleman + shipping for a manga. I'll just wait for reprints that'll never happen, I guess.

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>>15460493
There aren't any, the last auction for it that I found was in 2016 for like 4.5k yen so hopefully it'll pop up again for a reasonable price.

Pic is a King Kong manga by the same author

>>15460557
that's clearly Super Kong a very original monkey

>>15460557
4500 yen for two rare books is a very reasonable price.

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>>15460657
Indeed. The one I was looking at, a different manga by the author, is 85 dollars. That would be fine if I didn't have to worry about getting fucked by EMS shipping and middle man.

>>15460592
Even Tezuka has his own version. I'm not sure how to feel about his early works which earned him fame mostly being unauthorized adaptions of other people's work. Like, Mickey Mouse shows up in Next World as a man eating mouse.

>>15460708
>Even Tezuka has his own version. I'm not sure how to feel about his early works which earned him fame mostly being unauthorized adaptions of other people's work.

Meh. A dude's gotta eat, and dude's gotta get his start somewhere. He was probably just doing what was asked of him. Heck, an awful lot of modern mangaka get their start as porn creators.

>Like, Mickey Mouse shows up in Next World as a man eating mouse.

Now that's the good stuff right there!!!

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>>15460772
Well to be honest, most of them have very little to do with the the movie he got the title from and he usually just takes a visual visual elements or stuff. Like, Lost World is about people going to another planet filled with dinosaurs and one of the characters that's like a plant lady gets eaten during the ride to the planet

I need to re-read them because they're really entertaining.

>>15460708
>That would be fine if I didn't have to worry about getting fucked by EMS shipping and middle man.
Just ask them to ship out of the country for you and pay them extra.

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>>15461041
Does that actually work?

Also, a manga by the creators of Doraemon, UTOPIA

LOL. I'm sometimes active over on the TFW2005.com boards, talkin' Transformahs, and some guy there is arguing that Japan likes piloted robots much more than sentient/autonomous robots. (Maybe, maybe not. I don't think so, but it's a worthwile discussion.)

The thing is, he's so lopsided in his perceptions. He actually said:

>The biggest autonomous robot in Japan is of course Mighty Atom/Astro Boy. But once you get past that, there is almost nothing until you get to Transformers, and very little after Transformers. Just a handful of examples in the 50 years Japanese robot comics and cartoons have been around. 99.999999% of all robot fiction in Japan is piloted, non-sentient mecha.

Oy vey.

>>15463269
>Japan likes piloted robots much more than sentient/autonomous robots.

They kinda do, though? Most modern mecha shows involve piloted robots and have since the 70's. And then there's remote controlled robots like Tetsujin or like Giant Robo. The sentient robots were more of a thing of the 50's and 60's and became outdated.

>>15463302

Tetsujin was at least capable of autonomous action. He followed instructions, rather than being fully remote-operated. And he'd sometimes go out of control, berserk.

And as for modern autonomous robots, there's King Joe, Mecha Godzilla, Jet Jaguar, Mechanikong, Ambassador Magma, Chamber, DaiZyuJin, * Man, Doraemon, Arale, Pegas, Big O and friends, Machine Robo, five of the six robots of Godmars, the list goes on and on and on.

>>15463269
I mean, I know you're trying to sound smart and all, but not only have you outed yourself as a newfag, you're actually a pretty ignorant one to boot.

>>15463331
>* Man

Geh. That was supposed to be "8 Man".

>>15463331
Ambassador Magma - 1965
Doraemon - 1969
Mecha Godzilla, Jet Jaguar, mecha kong aren't modern either. Arale is from 1980 which isn't very modern either.

>Godmars
Loosely based on a manga from the 70's and an anime of the 80's.

Go look at any currently airing mecha anime and more than likely they're piloted. It's been that way since Mazinger.

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>>15463269
>>15463302
>>15463331
>>15463336
>>15463344
There are tons of sentient robots in Japanese media, it's a very popular subject. The problem is that you're confusing sentient robot exclusively with sentient giant robot.

>>15463269
>99.999999% of all robot fiction in Japan is piloted, non-sentient mecha

So y'all agree with this, huh?

>>15463376
And there are tons more that are non sentient, dude. Most sentient ones are products of the 50's and 60's. There are rare occasions where piloted robots show signs of sentience like some of the Mirage machines in FSS but those are rare.

>>15463600
>And there are tons more that are non sentient, dude. Most sentient ones are products of the 50's and 60's
But dood, what about all the robot characters that aren't giant robots even in recent anime/manga/vidya? Everything from One Punch Man to One Piece to Dragonball Ball Super to even currently airing anime like ID-0 and Frame Arm Girls have sentient robots but no giant robots.

>>15464057
We're talking about /m/ shows and anime though, aren't we?

Also
>Draw person
>Say it's a robot

>>15464073
>We're talking about /m/ shows
No. We're talking about whether Japan likes sentient or piloted robots more. The guy already mentioned both comics and cartoons from Japan, so at the very least its anime/manga which are the only things I've mentioned.

>don't mention things that disprove my narrative
Just say what you mean

>>15464090
You're in a thread about obscure /m/ shows and manga. If he's talking about anything else it's off topic.

Most /m/ things involving robots involve giant piloted robots and have been that way since the 70's.

>>15464097
Oh don't try to pull the off topic card on me just to try and win some stupid argument. Fact is, Japan has so many sentient robots in both /m/ and non /m/ focused series that it clearly outnumbers giant robots. If the other poster was referring only to giant robot shows, then yes there are more piloted robots as the main robot but even then many of these shows also feature sentient robot characters in secondary roles.

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>>15464116
You came into a thread about obscure /m/ shows, I answered you. You have no one to blame but yourself. And I'll restate it again: Most /m/ shows involve piloted robots. This is a board for mecha. Your original examples were /m/ shows/movies involving giant robots and funny enough those were all from decades ago. It seems to me you got buttblasted by someone on another board, on a completely different website, and had to take it out on this board in a thread about obscure series. Literally what.

>>15464160
>You came into a thread about obscure /m/ shows
Man, stop being a douchbag. You know that poster talking about his off topic argument with someone on a forum wasn't exclusively talking about giant robot anime. You're a fucking pathetic twit who can't handle being told you're wrong by anyone.

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>>15464173
You don't have to pretend to be someone else. Most /m/ things do involve piloted robots. Sorry if you think I'm a douche for being correct. And even if he's not talking about giant robot anime the statement is still true. You're free to be a pathetic twit and attempt to derail other threads, just don't do it in mine.

Anyway, here's another mecha manga re-released under the Apple Box label. ロボット大帝

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>>15464732

>>15464738
スーパー・ライトの活躍 地球危し
Loot at that totally not-Tetujin. It can be yours for just 648 yen

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>>15464739

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>>15464742
Condor King

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>>15464754

>>15464732
>You don't have to pretend to be someone else
What? Are you trying to imply I'm the poster who originally asked the question?
>Most /m/ things do involve piloted robots
That was never his question. And if you want to say /m/, then toku does have tones of sentient robots.
>And even if he's not talking about giant robot anime the statement is still true
Nope.
>just don't do it in mine
The fuck are you going to do it about it, nerd? Delet the thread? Oooohhh. You're an idiot. I had been posting tons of translated info ITT but go ahead and uselessly spam covers that anyone could google and enjoy your zero discussion.

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>>15464806
We have countless shows involving piloted robots in Japan airing each season, they have a giant fucking Gundam statue for fuck sake. If you make a statement like "sentient robots are more popular" you better provide some proof and not to mention his original post indicates he's talking about shows where the robot is a center of the show like Ambassador Magma and Doraemon.

Also, for some reason despite the entire thread being an image dump you seem confused about it being an image dump and anything but that. Unlike you'd like some commentary on obvious Astro Boy ripoff #9999 and you won't find info on a lot of these to begin with.

Also, good luck finding them all on google with vague searches like "showa robo/mecha"

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Relevant to this discussion: A post on Ameblo discussing old, obscure mecha.
https://ameblo.jp/manken99/entry-11765163245.html
Apparently, the first piloted giant robot appeared in a French animated film which was created in... 1948!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_and_the_Mockingbird
Here's a trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tE5902k3nE

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>>15467881
Big Machine just popped up on Yahoo auctions for 5k yen. It could be a while for it to pop up again.

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w176884804

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>>15459818
>>15459823
Relatively. Most of the people on /m/ who have seen it liked it, as far as I know.

Nina was voiced by Yuko Mizutani, may she rest in peace.

>>15459774
Domaiger got licensed?
>>15459710
>Doamygar

>>15470029
Funimation did the subs before it got a physical release, yeah. Otherwise it wouldn't have had subs at all.
>>15459718