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The man who wrote GoRider is Ninninger main writer. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!
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>>15429876

Seems he's the guy they go to when they want "Generic but self-aware"
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i still cant find decent rips
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>>15429894
Can't help it. Blu-Ray will come in autumn.
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>>15429894

I'm just disappointed that OT stopped caring about movies around the time of Zyuohger.
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>>15429889
>GoRider
>generic

Seems like you haven't watched any Rider crossovers. Like ever.
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>>15429961

It's five #1 repaints.
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>>15429985
The plot is anything but generic tho
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Was impressed by how they worked Blade into it. Sucks that he didn't get a short scene at the end or something though
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>>15429876
Does this mean the Red GoRider will be the sole main focus of this and all the other characters exist solely to showcase how awesome the Red GoRider is while his character is an one-dimensional retard that can only shout his stupid catch phrases?
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>>15430041
The best thing about this 5rider honestly
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>>15430041
Now I want a gaiden movie about him after watching Gorider
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>>15430049
AkaRider is just the side character in this though. I'd say he is actually the least relevant character.

AoRider is the most important to the plot and KiRider is the closest to the actual MC.
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>>15430069
They basically completely ignored that Kaito is an overlord, which was kind of disappointing - his last post-series appearance even had been in Overlord form (Ghost's mini-series).

Although this was the first post-series appearance where they actually used the fact that Kenzaki is Joker now, so that was nice.
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>yfw Kenzaki briefly appeared in Japan which probably set off Hajime's undead-sense but probably didn't go see him
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>>15430057

You're fucking kidding me

So any time Blade travels to an AU he ends it.
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>>15430057
>>15430041
So wait, why didn't the world immediately end upon Kuroto taking own Kenzaki's form?
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>>15430150
Yeah, i also wondering is it Decade who destroying worlds in Kamen Rider Decade?
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>>15429993
Nigga, it takes a lot from the kr4 special. I like it but saying the plot isnt generic is too much.
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>>15430049
How about you watch ninninger before having expectations about ninninger's writer? Because you clearly didnt.
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>>15430163
He sucks at mimicking an Undead
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>Dan chose Kenzaki to ham it up in because he saw the 0w0 videos
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So when the world ends, it just turns into that Toku Quarry? That's not so bad.
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>>15430041
Is he the most recurring cameo rider now?
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>>15430225
No, that's Faiz
Blade was only in this and 1 or 2 episode of Decade at best
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>>15430228
Blade appeared in the Kamen Rider 3 movie too with Garren's actor.

But yeah, Faiz appeared in two years' movies plus that KR4 special.
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>>15430260
Did he?
Weird, I remember him being a voice actor in that movie only
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>>15430302
Or maybe not, I can't remember, honestly. The Blade scene was pretty short and pointless.
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>>15430384
Only Garren appeared out of suit and got extended screentime.
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>>15429876
Yeah, totally.

Ninnin was apparently so bad, it made people forget Gobus Returns was a thing.
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>>15430163
>the world ending means everything is a quarry
>emu's actions arent reset by the loop yet there was a loop in the first place
>chalice didnt give a shit
It doesnt make much sense if you think too much about it.
As fot your question, I guess its because there was just one joker in the game world at first, then kenzaki enters and now there's two so a battle fight was triggered when there were 2 undeads and not before.

Why didnt the world end wjen chalice sealed the human undead again?
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>>15430727
Emu leaving the mirror for himself really triggered me. Didn't make any sense that it worked when him spilling the coffee before was undone by the loop.
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>>15430727
Actually no, the fake Kenzaki is not an Undead so no Apocalypse is supposed to be happened in the 1st place, then Kenzaki comes into, technically, another world where there's no Undead, so shit happens
Judging by his "what is he talking about? What world's end?" face, I doubt Kuroto awares of it

As for your question, I don't get it, why does the world end when there are plenty of Undeads left after human undead was sealed?
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>>15430222
It could be worse, it could be the Makuu Space.
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>>15430163
His fake Kenzaki form wasn't an Undead. You can see he had red blood.
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>>15430759
If we really forced it, it can be explained that his blood that he used to write on that mirror fragment is the reason the mirror didn't get undone by the loop.
I do believe it's a plothole though
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>>15430759
That was because due to his overconfidence Dan didn't reset things that last time, since he thought everything was ready for his victory.
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>>15430798
the broken mirror was on the first few minutes in the 1st episode though
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>>15430769
>As for your question, I don't get it, why does the world end when there are plenty of Undeads left after human undead was sealed?
The human undead won the original battle fight, he and chalicejoker were the last one remaining.
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>>15430829
No, he only won the battle fight, there's no line saying that he and Chalice were the last one remaining
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>>15430829
Chalice didn't seal the human undead in the original Battle Fight. He sealed him in the modern day, when the Undeads were unsealed.
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>>15430829
And
>wjen chalice sealed the human undead
>The human undead won the original battle fight
You don't make any sense here
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>>15430847
How did he win then?

>>15430853
I see, it has been a while since I watched the show so I forgot some of the details

>>15430855
Those two things are explictly said or shown in blade, I just missed the timing
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>>15430896
>How did he win then?
Never got explained, there're many implications, my theory is he was in hiding, then hit a jackpot when all of the remaining Undeads died in a draw after fighting ferociously exept for him because he didn't join the last fight.
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>Pick a Rider to impersonate so you can meme it up because you're a DANGEROUS ZOMBIE and he's an Undead so you can laugh at your own epic joke

>The guy actually shows up and turns your world into a fucking rock quarry because of bullshit rules you weren't told about

That's why Dan should have turned into Kamen Rider Skull. None of this would have happened and he'd still get to meme
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>>15430933
No, doofus. He chose Blade as a base because he knew an armageddon of invincible Bugsters would appear IRL thanks to his programming. They were mimicking the Undead.
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>gorider ball
>kaito actually kicks it

>gorider bazooka
>kaito actually shoots it
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>>15430990
the lesson he learned from his death was that not everything can be used as a sword
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>>15430998
BULLSHIT! NOT MY KAITO!
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>Ex-Aid already had his Game Genie form.
Why didn't he just reprogram the game world?
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>>15431102
He can only reprogram bugster DNA.
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>>15430793
>it can be explained that his blood that he used to write on that mirror fragment is the reason the mirror didn't get undone by the loop.
this might be it as it seems like the mirror was repaired but the blood remained.
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>MFW Emu's Maximum Mighty Form
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>Dan patting Kiriya on the shoulder when he's too frustrated to actually do anything

WE DIDN'T DESERVE SUCH A PERFECT MAD MAN.
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>>15432518
Malika and Baron definitely would not accept the treatment they were given. She would've spun kick Dan in the face and Baron would've come back from the shove ready to throw down.
Another Agito he just gave a pseudo-freindly fist bump to his shoulder which he looked disgusted by and Kiriya did eventually react so those reactions work.
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>>15432318
Dan's not a Bugster, Dangerous Zombie isn't a Bugster and he reprogrammed at least one of those to remove Dan's immortality.
If it was Dangerous Zombie, that's a Gashat and this game is on a Gashat too, one that gives off purple mist and grows black tendrils but still a Gashat.
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How much does Dan's actor like his role?

Toei should invite him back every year.
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>>15432747
The Game World Gashat actually looked slightly different than Gashat Rider usually used so it might not use Bugster virus.

Even then, considering Totema Genm able to beat Level 99, it simple to assume Dan able to program a safe guard against reprogramming somehow.
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>>15432740
I did think it was funny seeing Kaito be bullied. Even if him taking it was out of character
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>>15429985
The plot has almost nothing to do with the Gorider.
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Havent seen Blade, so why can he end worlds? Especially some video game world.
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>>15434918

Big spoilers for Blade's backstory and ending.

Undeads were created by God to represent each race and fight for supremacy. The winner would be the race that gets to become the main species controlling Earth. The human Undead won, so humanity became the dominating species. However, there's an Undead called Joker that doesn't represent any species, if they're the only Undead remaining in the end, the word would be destroyed.

At the end of Blade, they had sealed all Undeads, aside from Joker, who had become their ally, but even against his will the world started being destroyed(although here it was due to an endless army of monsters popping up everywhere), so Kenzaki overused his Rider system (which was powered up by Undead cards) alongside his high compatibility rate turned him into a 2nd Joker, making it so the battle was unfinished due to a 2nd Undead being around. And so the world wasn't destroyed, although they can't be close to each other otherwise they'd instinctively be driven to fight.

So, basically, it was the actual God destroying Dan's Game world.
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if this had nothing to do with go-rider, i'd enjoy it more

but holy shit, i've seen some tacked on shit, but this was the most tacked on
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>>15435077
If it helps you feel better, it's less about the Gorider thing, and more about the last hurrah of five riders.
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>>15435077
>Not already growing desenitized to this type of shit

Man, how long have you been watching Toku? Like have you even watched Gingaman where at episode 30 every fight ends the exact same way, with Norio Wakamoto narrating how COOL one of the two new Zords are and how the Gingamen can't win on their own without them, to the point where they actually wrote Go-Taurus out of the fights for the majority of the rest of the show just to shill?
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I'm actually surprised the Another Agito suit still exists. I always thought it suffered the same fate as the Gills suit and was moth-eaten/water damaged.
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>>15434940
Jesus fucking christ dude, I didn't think Blade was that serious my god.
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>>15435121
I'm pretty sure it was rebuilt just for this. It wasn't used in the Let's Go Kamen Riders net movies or Decade, and it seemed in much better shape than other old suits like Blade's.
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>>15435121
It's a reproduction, not the original suit.
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>>15435106
Except gingaman shills the gingaman toys. Not only that but gingaman has good toy handling to boot so the comparison is very retarded.
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>>15435214
>>15435077
To be fair, part of the problem is that the target audience is expected to have watched Chou Super Hero Taisen where Ex-Aid got the GoRider cards. They get no introduction here since they're just a thing he can use, like Maximum Mighty.
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>>15430913
I like the joke theory wherein it's down to Hajime and the Human Undead then Hajime was offered lolis to forfeit the fight.
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>>15435334
No one is questioning how emu got the cards.
But thematically, goriders are a combination of riders and sentai, rider sentai. It makes sense thenatically in csht as it is a sentai and rider crossover and the actual team has two sentai heroes.
This movie is just a kamen rider crossover with zero sentai presence so referencing goranger doesnt fit here....yet it is called gorider.
It would be better if the team, for example, was a mix of dead sentai and rider heroes like chst.
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>>15435121

It's a new suit. The original AA suit was damaged.
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>Kino introduces himself as "Another Agito"
>not "Kamen Rider" anything
>no one wonders why "another" and not just "Agito."

I mean I know it's his official name and all and Japs can't into English, but it's still a little weird.
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>>15435410
It's been a long time since I watched Agito but do they actually refer to themselves as "Kamen Rider" in-series? Like Gaim has them being called as "Armored Riders" instead.
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>>15435417
Nope. Actually, maybe G3 was called a Kamen Rider in some written thing shown in the series? I'm certain Agito and Gills weren't though.
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>>15435364
The number of dead sentai members are pretty few compared to dead Riders.

Also, most of dead Sentai are Sixths, thus matching them with GoRider colors is more difficult.
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>>15430075

Dan probably purposely coded then as underpowered.

I'm disappointed real-Kenzaki didn't bust out King Form in that final battle though.
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>>15430759

What Emu brings with him didn't get reset. Which includes his blood.
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>>15435196

Blade gets into some heavy shit for its endgame.
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>>15435454

>the first KiRanger
>Battle Cossack (orange)
>the first Yellow 4
>Black Condor
>Dragon Ranger (green)
>BullBlack
>Time Fire (red)
>Shurikenger (green)
>Abare Killer (white)
>Rio (black)
>Mele (green)
>Gosei Green
>all three Akibarangers (red, blue, yellow)
>Beet Buster (gold)
>Kyoryu Cyan (Ramirez)
>Kyoryu Gray (Tessai)
>Kyoryu Silver (Torin)
>AkaNinger (Yoshitaka)

You actually can't make a full team with them since there are no dead official Pinks. This isn't even counting villains, the ancestor Dairangers, or alternate reality rangers like the Dobutsu Sentai Go-Busters.
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>>15429876
I cannot
GoRider is actually decent
it's red was still genuinely the least expressive though
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>>15430480
OH SHIT HE DID GOBUS RETURNS
i love Gobus returns
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>>15435532
>its red
ftfy ;)
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>>15435454
There's 5 spots to cover and some should be taken by riders on a 3 to 2 ratio.

So, unless by "too few" you mean " literally one" your complaint is retarded before even checking how many sentai rangers died.

Being a sixth is irrelevant too as some have core member colors. Dragonranger and timefire are two that come to mind and goranger has both a red and green.

>>15435521
>You actually can't make a full team with them since there are no dead official Pinks.
Good thing goRIDER isnt only about sentai.

>or alternate reality rangers like the Dobutsu Sentai Go-Busters.
That'd ditch the akibarangers too.
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>>15430378
i love Dan the Ham with the Plan
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>>15435364

In addition to being Rider + Sentai, GoRiders also is an homage to the original concept that led to GoRanger. It'd be originally "GoRider" (not these suits, but as the idea of a 5 Rider show) due to X's movie being well received.

Although GoRanger became its own thing in the end, it even took the original Showa Rider timeslot.
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>>15435574
Goridee still references what gorider ended up being(ball finishers arent a rider thing) and the super sentai cannon uses by gokaiger and goseiger, neither of which are kamen riders.
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>>15430933
Should have been Chaser
That way the contrast when he dropped the act would have been GLORIOUS
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>>15435593
OOOs used the cannon move before
Gaim had a ball finisher
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>>15435564
You have to keep in mind actor availability as well. Not all of them are willing to return when TOEI called.
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>>15432422
BTFOed
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>>15430480
Ninnin wasn't even that bad, it was just so obviously worse than ToQ or Zyuoh that /ssg/ went full internet hate machine on it.
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>>15435600
>OOOs used the cannon move before
When?

>Gaim had a ball finisher
Yeah, they were totally referencing that one and not the goranger ball at all right?

>>15435601
I'm not the producer.
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>>15435615
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>>15435624
....seriously?
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>>15435593
>and the super sentai cannon uses by gokaiger and goseiger, neither of which are kamen riders.
That was just a prop reuse though. They didn't actually call it Super Sentai Cannon.

Although, yeah, the ball attack was obviously a Goranger reference.
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>>15435629
what
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>>15435630
I know but it being the same prop is a reference on its own, and both cannons are references to sentai cannon finishers.
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>>15435561
Thanks
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>>15435630
The ball attack's a reference to David Beckham.
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>>15435631
>ooo used the super sentai cannon making it totally a kamen rider thing
>as proven by this pic where the gokaigers are using a different canon on a sentai and rider crossover
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>>15435644
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>>15435653
>ooo is birth
Ok
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>>15435655
Birth is a Rider in the series OOOs, dimwit.
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>>15435593
G3-X
Zolda
Faiz
Kabuto
Zeronos
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>>15435659
>I meant the ooo tv show all along despite my first screencap not being from the ooo tv show!

Sure thing anon.

Not that the kr shows having a cannon user changes much though.
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>>15435667
How many of those finishers feature their team holding the bazooka? How many if those use a sentai prop?
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>>15435672
OOO
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>>15435676
>ooo is g3x, zolda, faiz, zeronos or kabuto

Man, I thought ooo was just ooo but the guy sure likes to steal identies.

Even then, when did the ooo team use a sentai prop bazooka?
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>>15435684
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>>15435691
>ooo is the gokaiger

Damn, the guy seems to be every single toku hero, are the metal heroes free from this?
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>>15435694
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>>15435700
That's some nice looking suit.
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>>15435702
FOR YOU
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>>15435667

You need five Riders to make a Sentai. You only listed four.
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>>15435740
You've forgotten one.
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>>15435611
Even compared to Kyoryuger or Kyuranger, Ninninger is still worse.
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>>15435427
G3 was called "G3 system" at most.

They didn't really use the term "kamen rider" in most of the pre-decade shows, only in Ryuki I think?
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>>15435870
Blade too
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>>15435516
yeah it was really heavy, it but it was really good
also i'm back
and decide that i'll go watch kamen rider W the next series i'll watch
maybe next time i'll go watch something showa era
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>>15435889
But a KR is literally kenzaki's job. He is getting paid for catching monsters in cards.
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>>15435740
>>15435745
Touche
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Having seen both this and CSHT, the Goriders are just a wasted opportunity. A gimmick that comes out of nowhere and then just disappears. It's the same in CSHT. It's not much better in principle than random stuff like the OOOs Gokai Change or the various combined Sentai/Rider mecha (Go-busters+Fourze, TOQ+Den-Oh, etc).

I don't have complaints really about what the mini-series was actually about. As Kaito summed up at the end, it was an interesting look at what it 'means' to be a Rider, even after death. I guess some shows and specials (inc. Sentai vs. movies) have touched on similar themes, but Go-Rider handled it pretty well.

Anyways, for anyone interested in filming locations, the theme park featured in the series was 'Sea Paradise' in Yokohama, close to Tokyo.
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>>15436823
>A gimmick that comes out of nowhere and then just disappears. It's the same in CSHT.
Eh, the entire tournament exists in order to get their power. The issue with their use in CSHT is that they're used to stop the game invading forces, but then once we get Shocker no one even mentions them anymore.

OOOs Gokai Changes came out of nowhere and don't even do anything, since they go straight to the bazooka finisher.
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So....Undead rules overwrite Bugstar rules?
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>>15436877
Stopping the invasion certainly was the point, but it still felt like it came out of nowhere and then just disappeared. It's not like they were specifically seeking a combined power or anything. Just any way to stop Xevious et al. I think it would've been a better fit in the original SHT or some other crossover where Showa heroes actually interacted. It felt out of place and its role in the film could easily have been replaced by generic laser beams without affecting the narrative.

I was really hoping they'd come back to defeat that Shocker boss at the end, but nope, the NPCs just disappear and the heroes firmly lost the ground battle.


I dunno, I think I was just hoping for something a little more grand since I love the idea of it. Just hope TOEI does something better with it in the future.
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>>15436974
There werent any bugster rules in place though. They didnt overlap.

>>15437005
>I dunno, I think I was just hoping for something a little more grand since I love the idea of it. Just hope TOEI does something better with it in the future.
That describes all super hero taisen.
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>>15435842
I don't know if I'd say it's worse than Kyoryuger. There's really never been any comparison to the sheer level of redwank that there was in Kyoryu. I'll admit the overall story quality in Ninnin is lower, though.
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Another hack script like always.
Thanks, Toei.
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>>15437085

>your weakness is that you have no weaknesses!

I don't think anything will ever top Kyoryu's level of Redwank, but it was at least an entertaining show despite that. Ninnin's problem was that it was Redwank as fuck AND boring. Kyu is kind of between them at the moment.
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>>15437211
For all of Ninnin's faults, I don't think it was actually particularly redwank? It was in the sense that there were three reds in one episode, but that's not really wanking Takaharu himself. I felt like they hit a decent balance with Takaharu where he was clearly the most skilled ninja in terms of combat skills, but he was also enough of an idiot that the others didn't really look to him as leadership material, more as a big gun they pointed in the direction of whatever needed doing well but aggressively. If anything it was closer to pinkwank given one of the most common complaints about the show was how Kasumi had almost as few faults as Daigo.

There's plenty to complain about in Ninnin - the youkai don't have any of the chemistry of the Shadow Line or Deboss, Kyuuemon isn't a good enough solo act to match Bladerun or Enter, the last battle is kind of lame, Fuuka has no consistent characterization whatsoever - but I think it was less of a redwank show than even ToQ.
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>>15436251
Remember the time he felt up a cow's ovaries? Yeah, me neither.
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>>15437334

>Kyuuemon isn't a good enough solo act to match Bladerun or Enter

KYUUEMON BEING FORGIVEN WAS FUCKING BULLSHIT, DADDY AKANINGER SHOULD'VE BEEN THE ONE TO KILL HIM

FUCK THAT SHIT
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>>15437043
At this rate I have to wonder if Shirakura will completely run out of unused concepts/other Ishinomori IPs to shovel out like yesterday's garbage.

Seriously though, does the SHT crowd actually like to be disappointed year after year? Especially when Rider-1 tried something else for a change.
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>>15435121
>>15435202
>>15435209
>>15435380
>Another Agito's gets to come back with a new suit
>Gills return never ever
It's not fair.
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>>15439666
He's just going to fall into a river and die but no wait he's now alive and he's like GRAAAAAAH now he's dead again.
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>>15439666
It depends on the Toei Budget Roulette.
Then again, they might just use the Exceed Gills suit instead, assuming it's not damaged since its last appearance in Decade.
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How good are the GoRider subs? I really wanna watch this but I'm a little hesitant because of TVN's usualy quality. Are the subs still half translated?
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>>15441259

They're fine.

Can't believe Another agito didn't say anything about Emu being a fellow doctor and that Blade just vanishes at the end, could have at least thrown us a bone and showed him riding off
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>>15438689
I just wonder when they'll finally stop using Osamu Kaneda as a director. It should be obvious that he's really bad, doesn't matter if it's for a crossover or a standalone movie.

Even back in Rider 1, while the marketing was trying to sell armored Rider 1 as the strongest Rider ever, movie put no effort at all in showing it in a good a light.


>>15439666
The issue with that suit is that they can just go with Exceed Gills rather than base Gills, so there's no reason to rebuild it.
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>>15437211
>your weakness is that you have no weaknesses!
That wasnt the problem. That's just daigo being a good fighter in universe which is only a problem if you're with deboss.
The problem was a meta one, how the show ended up being all about daigo and how everybody else sucked his dick with zero contesting after the team joins together.


>>15437334
Ninninger wasnt redwank at all, that's just /ssg/ having daigo ptsd. Toqger had the same thing but the show was good enough so most people forgot about it.
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>>15438689
Well, these things are aimed at kids and they dont give much of a shit about how the movies treat the older characters or the villain reasons making 100% sense. Kr1 was great, but if anything kids would care more about ghost and spectre than hongo(which, despite my opinions on ghost i'm fine with as they're the target audience).

>>15441259
Whenever I have to watch something modern by tvn(usually side material OT didnt cover) it surprises me sometimes how they translate things I didnt expect to do. So they are a little better. Still hardsubs with shit effects tho.
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>>15441259
Their V2 of episode 1 is much better than the V1 source that had stuttering in some parts.
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>>15435691
Fuck this was such a waste
>let's give the gokaigers OOO's keys
>and not do anything but the usual cannon finisher
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>>15430964
That was never explained in show but that does make sense
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>>15439666
What's also not fair is that they rebuilt the Another Agito suit but can't be bothered to fix the shit wrong on Blade like his purple undershirt and yellow visor.

Granted they could bullshit it and say those are side effects of him being a Undead.
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>>15441344
It's the only way to watch the Fourze Quiz shows which is some of the best Rider supplements ever made.

That and the Wizard net movies.
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