Why does this planet seem to not exist in UC? Does anyone live there?

Weren't there Zeon Remnants that were based there during F90? I don't even know if F90 is canon.

Zeon Remnants live on Mars. Several Purus, including Trap Puru. Though they all die in UC120 when the Feds and Crossbone wipe them out.

>>15422080
It's pretty much worthless

>>15422080

Why would you want to live on Mars? Space colonies provide a nice simulated 1g environment, breathable air, comfortable temperatures, and pleasant landscapes.

If you live on Mars, on the other hand, you are stuck in a .38g environment, meaning that anyone born on Mars probably wouldn't be able to live on Earth, at least not without severe difficulties. The atmosphere is not only unbreathable, but it is the wrong pressure and temperature. You'd be stuck in shelters most of the time. Might as well just live in colonies in space instead. Stick them in Martian orbit if you want to be on the planet.

Sure people live on the Moon, but at least that is way closer to Earth and the Sides than Mars is.

Of course, colony life has its own dangers - namely the latest Zeon movement dicking you around and trying to start wars. That being said the Mars Zeon remnants end up in a war with the Federation so...

>>15422217
Space colonies nigga, earth isn't the only planet to orbit

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>>15422160
>Trap Puru

Elaborate

>>15422080
It's not worth it with UC's tech level, the only reason anyone bothers with Jupiter is for gas harvesting.

>>15422217

How is a giant ass space tube more practical than a dome on an actual planet

>>15422261
>>15422261
UC tech makes terraforming mars a straightforward affair.

They could build a colony in mars sun l1 orbit. Then have it project a magnetic field to shield mars.

Moving large ice asteroids is not a problem for them.

>>15422273
On the planet, you have to build your own environment, are stuck at low gravity, and have to deal with ambient environmental concerns (mostly dust). In a space tube, you have to build your own environment, can have whatever gravity you like (long term low gravity is unhealthy if you ever want to leave it), have no dust storms, can set your own day length, and you're in a much energetically cheaper location to launch starships from. The only real benefits to a Martian surface colony are if building a space tube is a problem for some reason, you want to do scientific research on the surface, or you want to exploit surface resources (probably easier to grab an asteroid for that).

>>15422362
There's no purpose to building surface colonies over subterranean ones on Mars (or the Moon), but even then the gravity is an issue.

>>15422160
Does that happen in F90 ?

>>15422080
Despite what early science fiction has convinced the world, colonizing Mars is an abso-fucking-lutely retarded idea and nothing but a complete waste of time and effort.

>moon has dome/surface colonies
>Earth orbit has space colonizes
>Mars has neither
>yet apparently Jupiter has enough people to have its own culture and society
I jus don' get it mane

>>15422776

Presently and in the near future, maybe.

Surely in settings where the tech level is adequate, if not entirely sufficient for such, it's a better proposition, is it not?

>>15422780
With the kind of tech you'd hypothetically need to make Mars livable, it'd still take less effort and be more beneficial to colonize Venus.

>>15422778
At least in Gundam the moon and Jupiter have resources which are actively being extracted. As far as I'm aware there's no indication of this happening on Mars in Gundam.

>>15422786
We can't even land craft on Venus and have them stay operation for that long. Unless you're suggesting living on cities above the atmosphere.

>>15422792
*operational

>>15422778
>>15422790
Mars doesn't have anything of value that you can't get elsewhere in the solar system easier. Jupiter at least does, and the moon is just Earth's back yard.

>>15422792
If we're talking hypothetical tech to bombard Mars with ice asteroids and project shields around it, the problems of colonizing Venus are even more trivial. Venus's problem is mostly greenhouse gasses and sulfur, things that IIRC can be naturally scrubbed throwing asteroids at it, but I'm not an astrophysicist, just someone who likes to shatter the Mars myth.

>>15422790
>>15422806
Thinking about it Mars's only value would just be a gravity well to put orbital colonies around as a way station between Earth, the asteroid belt, and Jupiter.

marsfags never seem to understand how big of an issue its microgravity is

>>15422806
The problem is that we know very little about Venus because we have not been able to send spacecraft there that last for more than a few hours. Venus could potentially be easier to colonize then Mars given the right circumstances, the problem is that there are so many unknowns about it.

>>15422834
There's microgravity on the moon and they're able to adapt in Gundam by living under the surface. If they was value to be found on living in Mars then they would be doing. If you're talking about real life then microgravity is probably the least of your worries when trying to live on Mars.

>>15422858
It's not that we haven't been able to probe Venus, it's that the public isn't interested in funding it because everyone has an idiot-boner for Mars still.

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There are space cancer rays on Mars.

>>15422252
It's Re-Zeon; they have custom Purus for every pilot and apparently one of them is a trap.

>>15422862
That's literally bullshit. NASA sent a probe to Venus before they ever sent one to Mars. The atmosphere of Venus makes it incredible difficult to get details on the surface because the probes don't last long when they're on Venus, and the atmosphere reflects most light so we haven't been able to get any pictures of its surface. You're talking surface temperatures that are over 800 F and having a probe last for an hour or two doesn't let you gather much data. The reason more probes have been sent to Mars is because they have lasted longer than a couple of hours, and we can actually gather meaningful data from them. NASA has a limited budget that is constantly being threatened with budget cuts, do you think they're going to send a probe to Venus where it will last a couple of hours or to Mars where it can last years gathering useful data.

>>15422895
The last time someone landed a probe on Venus was the fucking 80s, by the fucking Soviets.

And I don't know if you noticed, technology is a hell of a lot different and our understanding of the planet is a hell of a lot better.

Do you seriously think that with NASA's limited budget and constant threat of cuts they're going to get any clearance for going back to the planet literally no one cares about anymore when they can get money thrown at them for going to the planet that everyone has a boner for because of a shitty Matt Daemon movie?

>>15422909
You can't be this dense. The Viking missions to Mars were done in the 70s and those probes gathered data for years. The longest any probe has lasted on the surface of Venus is around two hours. If you're NASA you realize it's not cost effective to use your limited budget to send probes to Venus if they aren't going to last that long. Technology may have improved but Venus' atmosphere has not.

There's a reason they send orbiters to Venus and not landers, they don't want to limit themselves unnecessarily in their ability to gather meaningful data. They were even talking about the possibility of a manned mission to Venus a couple of years ago, but I guess you missed that. Despite your rantings about people not being interested in Venus, scientists are. The problem is that they don't have the resources to send probes to the surface of a planet where its surface temperature is over 800 F and where the surface pressure is something like 90 atm, especially given how certain members of Congress view space exploration. You're not going to make some magical probe that can withstand the Venusian atmosphere for a long period of time given NASA's current budget and the limitations of materials technology.

Well can't blame the EF. They should have funding on a future mars project but decided to pump all the moolah on weapons to destroy mankind twice over thanks to zeon.

>>15422160
>Trap Puru

TELL ME MORE

>>15422246

Yeah but moving a colony to Mars or moving enough material to Mars to build one would be a very expensive undertaking. Why bother? The only reason I could think would be to escape the violence of the Earth sphere but the institutions that would have the resources to build a Martian Side probably aren't interested in doing so.

Venusian colonies aren't all that hard but they are interesting in that you can build floating cities in the atmosphere with current tech. No you'll never live on the surface though. Mars is just a gravity well we can use for O'Neil cylinders.

We only care about surface/subterranean colonies on Mars IRL because we can't process asteroid resources yet and thus can't make O'Neil cylinders and the microgravity of Mars is easier to deal with than the Moon's, physiologically.

In the future there will be a tiny population of short-duration staff working on the surface and tons of people in Martian colonies in orbit.

>>15422764
Nah, F90 is just about the eponymous F90 being stolen by Mars Zeon, and the Feds send a unit in to recover it and destroy the fuck out of their base.

>>15422880

There are space cancer rays in most of space actually. kinda one of the drawbacks of not having a magnetosphere and blanket of atmosphere to protect you.

>>15422246
You'd have less sunlight to work with which would make it harder to grow stuff.

>>15422792
The most reasonably concepts put forth at this time are aerostat cities in the high atmosphere. You're above most of the acid and sitting at a comfortable 1 atm, so you could walk around outside as long as you had some breathing gear.

>>15423631
Thank you for understanding that atmosphere matters. So many people think the magnetosphere does literally everything on the radiation shielding front.

>>15422080
Mars Could be useful as a checkpoint between the Earth Sphere and Jupiter

>>15425286
"Most" is not "all." People usually don't want to live on a world where there's a chance of encountering sulfuric acid clouds every time you walk outside.

Fucking Europa is an easier sell than Venus, at least that bitch has water.

>>15425316
It'd be easier just to build a cluster of colonies in the Earth Sphere and drag them into Martian orbit than colonize the planet itself.

>>15422080
Fuck Mars. Venus is a better planet for terraforming in the long run.

>>15425599
My nigga.
Cloud fucking cities, man. No better way to live anywhere.

>>15425599
run away volcanism, crust too thin for stable tectonics, super long day, unstable axial tilt so no stable season cycle, no magnetosphere,

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>>15425542
>Fucking Europa is an easier sell than Venus, at least that bitch has water.

>>15425542
Granted, it's not ideal, but your other options are "stay inside a habitat/suit forever" or "die". Also, you can pull water out of the acid without too much difficulty.

If you have the tech to build them, proper space colonies on the order of Island Threes are probably better than any long term habitation on an actual planet that's not Earth (and possibly including Earth, depending on what we've done to it by then).

>>15425616
I fucking love 2001. Such a good movie.

>>15425616
FUCK YOU, ALIENS, YOU AND YOUR STAR BABY

I WILL USE THAT FROSTY BITCH UNTIL SHE RUNS DRY

>>15425599
...Habitation, not terraforming. Terraforming Venus has far, far more hurdles than terraforming Mars, up to and including its absurdly slow rotation.

Mars is the best bet for terraforming.

Cloud cities in Venus are easy for habitation (but not anywhere near as easy as some in this thread seem to think).

>>15423597
Well I mean, there are two F90s...

>>15425316
They use Axis for that, which was in or near the asteroid belt at the time of the OYW. I bet there are more that are stilled use but in ZZ they talk about Judau taking 3 months to get to Jupiter or something so it's actually not that bad.