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May FSS Newtype scans 2017-04-09 12:31:58 Post No. 15413090
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Now we're starting to move onto the big boy GTMs and not the grunts.
Featuring a cameo by Four?
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>>15413093
Terror Mirage
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>>15413107
White Phantom
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>>15413120
Won't be a one-sided stomp for the AKD this time
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>>15413090
Thanks dude!
>>15413093
Tfw your favorite GTM grunts are being beaten up ;_;
>>15413094
Whoa, are we finally seeing a GTM with different weaponry besides the standard gunsword?
>>15413113
I think Nagano's finally learned how to draw action scenes with the GTM designs. Only took 2 years?
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>>15413127
Devonchas?
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>>15413133
Poseidal spelled backwards
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>>15413141
what the fuck is going on
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>>15413152
Last page.
This battle is getting too drawn-out. At this rate I doubt Nagano will even fnish this arc by the end of the year.
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>>15413157
At least we're seeing a consistent melee fight for the first time in years. Whatever happened to Christine V? Also when are we gonna see this dude? There's also still the AUGE that showed up in vol 12 and undercover KOG.
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>>15413175
So far the entire arc has not been jumping around much at all. A few flashbacks here and there, but for the most part nothing as impulsive as the older volumes. It doesn't feel like much progress has been made story-wise though despite how long this whole arc has been going for. I don't know what Nagano is buying time for.
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>>15413147
>what the fuck is going on
Kyo is calling out Lei-Holst and recounting a time when she threw some Tofu in Hugtrang's face when she was an infant because she was jealous of her superior abilities.
>>15413274
>So far the entire arc has not been jumping around much at all.
Actually the battle just ended because Nao told all the other teams to retreat. The whole point of this long arc is to demonstrate the mechanics of a large-scale GTM fight.
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>>15413132
>I think Nagano's finally learned how to draw action scenes with the GTM designs. Only took 2 years?
Unlike Mortar Headds, GTM duels are over in literally one or two hits. The real "battle" that took place is some serious electronic warfare between Fatimas and relaying information to one another and hacking the opposing side. The information was important for placing positions and strike points for ambush, especially now that battalions of Gothicmades can be remote-controlled by a single Fatima.
In the last chapter Buchtama almost won the battle when Jid and Ninaris hacked everyone's systems in the so that the leader of the Trukk corps (Narumi in her A-Toll) would be in his ideal strike zone (the entire procedure is called Xross Jamming). Before he got a hit though, Lachesis undid the Xross Jamming and remotely moved the Trukk leader's A-Toll away from the strike zone, and poor Jid got ambushed by Aisha, who sliced off Schpeltor's hand. Before the finishing blow could be dealt, Nao (grandson of the deceased 2nd Black Knight) arrived with his Phantom and blocked her hit and managed to tank two sonic blades from both Aisha and Brafford. Then the whole bickering fest between his Fatima (Lei-Holst) and Kyo (Brafford's Fatima) began, and he was so elated he called off the whole battle and told all his allies to retreat. Narumi is completely stunned by this turn of events and has no idea what Nao is planning.
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>>15413386
>Unlike Mortar Headds, GTM duels are over in literally one or two hits.
Interesting. So functionally, how different is a Gothicmade than a Mortar Headd? I assume they're much more powerful now?
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>>15413386
>especially now that battalions of Gothicmades can be remote-controlled by a single Fatima.
Goddamn.
> Before the finishing blow could be dealt, Nao (grandson of the deceased 2nd Black Knight) arrived with his Phantom and blocked her hit and managed to tank two sonic blades from both Aisha and Brafford.
More holy fuck
Thanks for the summary.
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>>15413464
>So functionally, how different is a Gothicmade than a Mortar Headd? I assume they're much more powerful now?
"Powerful" isn't the correct word- they've been "modernized". Gothicmades are not technically more powerful, but how they function is a bit different than an Mortar Headd. Whereas Mortar Headds have a lot of hand-to-hand and melee brawling, where punching and grappling is a valid option in most fights, the same cannot be said for Gothicmades. Fights like the one with Ashura Temple and its shoulder claws have become totally obsolete by Gothicmade standards. Gothicmades are essentially walking guns- more often than not the outcome of the battle is decided by who strikes first, not by a long duel. It is now all about efficiency and strategy. This is how it was portrayed in the Gothicmade movie as well. Their weapons are now a combination of a beam rifle and energy sword. In fact, some Gothicmades like Kaiserin can even eat energy beams with their energy fields. Their forms are designed for maximum speed and articulation. Something you may not have noticed, but most Mortar Headds couldn't even move their necks. Gothicmade are like humanoid snakes. How they fight is also like snakes. All the outdated piston joints have been replaced with rails because that is at the moment the fastest form of movement between two solid surfaces, as demonstrated by bullet trains. There is no longer a need for extensive body armor like a Mortar Headd, in fact most Gothicmades are half-naked. This is why you no longer see any bulky Gothicmades other than some like the Ashura Temple, which are bulky not because of their armor but because of their giant frame. All armor is now translucent and has self-regeneration ability. There is also now more importance for the Fatima not as just a co-pilot, but a logistics and strategy simulation computer and communications guide. And unlike Mortar Headds, all Gothicmades are capable of space combat.
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>>15414188
Basically Gothicmades are closer to Orbital Frames, whereas Mortar Headds are closer to Gundams.
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>>15414188
And to cement it all, Gothicmades always take up a something akin to a sprinter's pose during a battle, with one knee bent and their torso lurched forward. That way they can "pounce" on their enemies.
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>>15414241
Mortar Hedds are fencers
Gothicmades are samurais and gunslingers.
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>>15414241
It's pretty incredible how much thought he's put into making these robots work
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>>15414301
More like they went from electric samurais that can ninja at each other thanks to their Fatimas to italian fencers having brawls with explosion-tipped rapiers.
He also doubled-down on the war-nerding and all the stuff that made the fights in the Emperor's Rescue arc good.
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>>15414342
The funny thing is that many of these ideas aren't new when it comes to mecha. Mead was the first designer I remember who used rail joints in Turn A's designs.
And I don't know how many have it, but Gothicmades also come with their own version of Phase Shift armor now.
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>>15414993
Rail joints actually have cooling systems so they don't overheat
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>>15415013
Overheating actually seems to be an issue in some fights?
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I appreciate how well thought-out the GTMs are, but I can't tell the fucking difference between any of them anymore. Nagano needs to put a lot more variation between them.
Also, is the change to GTMs something referenced in-universe, or are we pulling an Endless Waltz and just pretending they've always looked this way?
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>>15415022
Sprinter's pose, sort of
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>>15415027
Some folks claim he did, but frankly, the basic way MH combat was fought and MHs were geared up changed within FFS already. Like they mention that armour has been getting heavier again for a while now and exemplify it on the Zakker.
His main issue really is that he showed MHs using old armour layouts operating far into the future of the setting.
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>>15415046
So are we supposed to believe that after hundreds of years of using the same frames, every single MH in the galaxy just up and got rebuilt from ground up at the same time? It's not just the armor, the entire frame and design philosophy has changed, like an alternate universe
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>>15415027
>Also, is the change to GTMs something referenced in-universe, or are we pulling an Endless Waltz and just pretending they've always looked this way?
EW situation unfortunately. Like I said before everything in FSS has been "modernized". Like how Fatimas are now able to remotely control Gothicmades and relay information/hack each other. They now function more like modern computers and electronic devices than just being simple calculators like in the old settings.
Nagano has acknowledge the existence of electronic warefare as a serious game changer, something that was never present in the old FSS.
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Where can I go to read the new issues?
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>>15415059
Speaking of old FSS, the very first battle between LED Mirage and Black Grard has also become obsolete. Probably the most obsolete battle. It's a long-dragged out brawl of a duel that lasted for couple days or so. Very much something you would see in IBO.
Not to mention that the designs are horribly outdated when compared to later chapters.
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>>15415113
None of them have been translated.
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>>15413127
Panel 3: am I correct in spotting a mention of "robotter skill"? Or is that someone's name, like, "Robortar Skyll"?
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>>15416189
Gothicmades are all designated as "Panzer Kampf Roboter (Pzkprbt)" models.
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>>15414188
So you saw the movie?
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>>15415027
These look the same to you?
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>>15414188
...so could an MH beat a GTM?
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>>15413090
I'm a bit confused
how are we having may scans in april?
also, when will we imprison some guys and make them our slave-translators for this?
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>>15417196
I bet KoG could, if he gets a preemptive strike with the buster gun.
otherwise I believe that the gothicmades could beat their mortar headd counterparts if they get the first shot with all those guns. it'd be a matter of wether or not the MH could get close enough so the GTM's weapons would be ineffective
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>>15414241
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>>15414301
This actually looks really similar to the posture you'd see in historical fencing; feet wide, body weight forward.
>>15417196
In melee? maybe. MH and GTM weapons seem to be capable of dealing mortal wounds in a single hit.
A ranged battle would be completely biased towards the GTM though.
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>>15416401
Can you tell me which one is what?
It doesn't help that Nagano's "action" scenes are just a complete mess of lines with zero sense of choreography or positioning. I fully believe his whole "electronic warfare" angle is just an excuse to not have to draw any more action scenes. It's always been the major weakpoint of his designs, they're really only meant to be like statues
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>>15413113
it's wearing stockings
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>>15417196
It's like asking if an old car from the 50s can beat a modern one in a race. They certainly have the power to do it, but are far less advanced and more likely to get into some horrible accident doing the same maneuvers because they lack stuff like antilock brakes.
http://oppositelock.kinja.com/modern-cars-vs-classic-cars-a-pointless-argument-1587813936
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Looking through the old volumes, it's amazing how something as minimal as a sandstorm or rain can weaken the performance of an MH to a halt. This is something that won't faze a GTM in the slightest.
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>>15417268
>how are we having may scans in april?
Monthly magazines always list their current issue one month ahead of the actual release date.
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>>15417490
Do those really look the same to you that you can't distinguish them?
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>>15417601
I much prefer that over the Gothicmades. Mortar Headds are big, rugged and powerful monsters that have their limitations and get worn out just like any other machine. Gothicmades are too neat and polished over-the-top like some moving walking chandelier.
>>15417490
>It doesn't help that Nagano's "action" scenes are just a complete mess of lines with zero sense of choreography or positioning.
Disagree with this, the Ashura Temple vs Devoncha duel was one of the best I've ever seen in a manga. Two big brawling brutes just flailing at each other, and you could feel the speed and power of each strike. Closest I've seen to a mecha sumo battle.
All Gothicmades do is just air-slash and shoot each other. I don't know how you could improve the choreography on something so basic.
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>>15414993
Wait, there were rail joints on the Turn A? Where?
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>>15413137
>Poseidal
>Ladiesop
>Ladios Sop
Fuck, never realized this
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The Berlin is my favorite grunt suit of all time. Regal but not overtly flashy. Same reason I like Tallgeese, which is my favorite Mobile Suit of all time. It's a shame FSS doesn't have more designs like this.
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>>15413113
>those thighs and stockings
Creepy and sexy as fuck. Reminds me of this.
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Will you upload Newtype FSS scanned images from July to November 2016?
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>>15421339
IIRC someone posted it all back in a thread last week.
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>>15420271
Berlin is cool, but original Siren F is better.
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>>15421339
here's everything I could gather on the FSS manga.
I hope it's complete or it'll be yet another failure of mine
https://mega.nz/#F!qZVB0YRR!HfZxo2uPkNrxSa3Q64H2Ow
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>>15419545
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Best grunt GTM and best looking GTM
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>>15423255
holy fuck that's awesome
Syd Mead is the greatest designer of all time.
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>>15421950
Thx anon
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>>15417601
>Looking through the old volumes, it's amazing how something as minimal as a sandstorm or rain can weaken the performance of an MH to a halt.
I thought MHs were supposed to be bullshit-tier stuff.
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>>15425064
They move at supersonic speeds and have enough ordinances to take out an entire MS division.
Doesn't make them invincible though.
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>>15425064
Aisha's cross mirage wasn't properly tuned and it overheated after like 5 mins of engagement against the Ashura Temple, it completely fell apart afterwards.
The initial sortie of Junchoon was a disaster and it was nearly wrecked by the rainbow boray coz the junchoon's engines sucked and couldn't provide the necessary power for all it's equipment (flight unit).
Then you also have the K.O.G that nearly got dispatched by a lowly grunt MH coz it wouldn't fucking move after a short teleportation, Sopp has said the K.O.G is a buggy as hell machine.
So yea... MHs are like hyper cars, they have the performance but are prone to failures if no maintained or used correctly.
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>>15425086
>>15426084
So can Mobile Suits beat them in any way?
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>>15426602
Probably not. There's a gulf of a couple of ten thousand to a million years of technological progress between them. Like MHs come with teleportation and antigrav-systems as standard features, carry about as much internal weapon systems as the beefier ZZ-suits and react a lot faster than regular MS. They also got mature AI support systems granting them another pair of eyes while MS generally handle like one-seaters.
>>15426084
>Aisha's cross mirage wasn't properly tuned and it overheated after like 5 mins of engagement against the Ashura Temple, it completely fell apart afterwards.
She basically ruined its engine because she didn't properly unpack the machine prior to its first sortie, IIRC.
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>>15426602
Daimslef
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>>15426650
MH would catch it in midair and throw it back faster than it was originally fired.
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>>15413090
Thanks.
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>>15426673
>MH would retaliate with Buster Launcher and obliterate the whole fleet in one shot
FTFY
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why is lach so weak
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>>15429514
She casually beat a diver and two headdliners into submission during the rebellion, Anon.
She's the strongest insect.
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>>15429514
>this little stick girl challenges you to a duel
what do?
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>>15431236
Give her some calcium pills and hope she doesnt choke on them and die.
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>>15423255
You sure that wasn't just a design for the kit and not from the lineart?
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>>15417601
Wasn't the sand on that planet used to make anti-MH weapons though? I vaguely remember characters talking about how those sandstorms could actually shred an MH's internals.
>>15426084
They're supposed to be like knights and nobility in medieval stories, iirc; absolutely unstoppable when things go right, but sometimes Crecy happens and they die like idiots.
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Why aren't there translators working on new FSS chapters
Clearly it has a large enough fanbase
>inb4 google image text translate
There are way too many names for that to actually work
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>>15435619
>Clearly it has a large enough fanbase
lolno
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>>15436447
It's actually sad that this story doesn't have a larger fanbase.
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>>15437318
No merchandise, no anime, and a manga that is only partially translated. The only thing remotely accessible is the old movie.
No surprise that people here have nothing to talk about.
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>>15437426
>No merchandise
There are a lot of resin and some plastic kits, but they're all hard to build and most certainly not for the Gunpla snap-fit crowd.
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>>15431236
Nips were furiously fapping to her when this chapter came out. Guess they must have liked those heels.
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>>15437762
I'm tempted to get at least one wave kit
they say it's a bad kit, so I'm waiting until I have mastered RG gunplas
it's sad that there's no junchoon
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