Is she the second worst gundam princess after Lacus?

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>>15396701
I didn't mind Marina, she was irrelevant and knew it.

I mean her only "wrong" was having the the orphans sing so Setsuna went UNDERSTANDING when fighting Ali, and it ain't like she was aware that shit gonna happen.

I'd put Shakti as worse then her.

>>15396701
>implying there is someone better than Lacus

Diana/Kihel - top 2

>>15396701
P. Sure relena "did you blow yourself up again heero" Lovecraft is worse
People just tend to forget since their gut instinct was that heero was awful enough that he deserved everything bad that happened to him

>>15396701
You mean one of the BEST gundam princesses. Marina's never presented as infallible and all-knowing, unlike Lacus. In fact, she spends most of the series begging for scraps and having her ideals trampled on by reality, sometimes even Setsuna himself.

She's pretty much the inverse of the Gundam princess trope. I like it.

>painful idealists
Realina, Lacus, kudelia

>moves with the plot
Kihel/Diana, Shakti, Marina

>I am the plot
Lacus, mineva, Aina

>does she even count?
Aida

And yes Lacus goes twice, take it up with her SEED mode

>>15396766
Where's sayla

>>15396789
Moves with plot

>>15396766
>Aida
She is the plot for Bellri.

>>15396701
depends, is Kudelia a princess?

>>15396830
I want to bury my face into her plot if you know what I mean

>>15396701
Marina is the ceremonial monarch of a dying third-world country that the world doesn't give a shit about, and is painfully aware of the fact. 90% of her scenes remind us of this fact. I would argue that, while largely plot-irrelevant, she is one of the best Princess characters, because she is a representation of the current state of monarchy in the world.

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>>15396766
Kudelia stops being an idealist halfway through the show though and starts making some fat checks by investing in Mars infrastructure and private military contractors.

Based Space Jew.

>>15396960
In the second season Kudelia somehow manages to be one of the most important characters in the series yet is still completely irrelevant to the plot.

Did the writers not know what to do with her? Most of her screentime was spent as a third wheel. It would have been nice to see her fill in Biscuit's role as Tekkadan's common sense and butt heads with Orga to show their contrasting views on leadership. She might even have developed a character.

>>15396701
Marina is the best gundam princess after Diana/Kihel

>>15396978
She got shafted because the fans disliked her.

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>>15396722
Funny thing about that. Not too long ago I went back to rewatch that scene specifically because someone complained about it.
Ali is literally only saved because Setsuna was suddenly distracted by the song.
It wasn't a case of UNDERSTANDING, but Setsuna hearing music playing from out of nowhere and having his first experience as he develops into an Innovator.
Is it contrived? You could say so, but at the least it wasn't a case of Understanding.

Had it not been Setsuna's first experience, he would have just killed Ali outright.

>>15396701
She's the best because she's the only one to not be a self-insert Mary Sue

Everyones dying and shit is hitting the fan

All this bitch can say is

"All I want to do is sing songs :("

>>15397203
That's because that's literally all she can do for the children. Give them a fleeting moment of happiness while surrounded by despair.

>>15397203
That was hilarious.

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Lacus was the best though.

>>15397203
What the fuck do you expect her to do instead

>>15397203
It's better than kids crying.

>>15397029
>Mfw I liked that scene because it showed Setsuna's faultering blind resolve that he had in season 1 and showed how full UNDERSTANDING can also be stupid.

>>15396701

she has pretty hair.

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>>15398271
Everyone had pretty hair in 00

>>15398300
I love natelly even tho she did nothing

>>15396789
Being cute

>>15396701
She's the only Gundam princess I ever wanted to fuck

>>15397203
It was a Number 1 chart-topping song! >:(

>>15398581
This.

>>15398581
>>15398889

What, why? She's not even top 10 qtest 00 (boys included)

>>15396701
She's the best. She's one of the only true pacifists in Gundam who keeps to her principles even when in dire times. Her song is nice too.

>>15398922

Is that something to admire. Refusing to fight when the bad guys show up in Gundam means you either die, have to sucide or have to let other people kill them for you.

>>15398662
What magic did they use to transmit the song to everyone around the world? We should look into it.

>>15398896
Because we have mother issues

>>15398300
MG never ;_;

>>15398896
Long dark hair, striking blue eyes and that skin tone just gets to me senpai

>>15399001
You could always run.

>>15399175
From a mobile suit?

>>15398896
She has the same name and basically the same personality that my gf at the time had. also this >>15399041 too.

>>15396766
>retarded neckbeard
You

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>>15399041
Maria Ismail was a young woman who could have been a mother to me...

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>>15400720
Whenever there was a scene of Setsuna staring at Marina hugging the kids you could really tell he wanted her to be mommy

>>15400857
Only shippers missed the memo. The series is not even subtle about Setsuna seeing Marina as the replacement of his mom.

>>15400857
There was also probably crushing regret about killing his parents when he saw her being kind to the kids

>>15400861
There's no doubt Setsuna sees his mom in Marina, but I don't think he ever thought of her as a replacement, and by the end he has grown enough to recognize her as her own individual.

>>15400720
>>15400857
In a way Setsuna was A CHAR.

>>15400881
Perhaps "replacement" is not the right word. What I meant is that "Marina's place" on Setsuna's life is akin to the one his mother would have if she was still alive.

We can agree that Setsuna/Feldt is OTP, though, right?

>>15400919
It's one-sided, and no, it's shit

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>>15399001
The world needs both fighters and pacifists.
Hence Setsuna, the ultimate fighter, and Marina, the ultimate pacifist, could achieve understanding.

>>15397029
That was totally understanding. He came to understand that taking revenge there would have made him the soldier he was before becoming GUNDAM.

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>>15401013
I thought metal Setsuna coming back to a really old Marina was cute

>>15400857
I'm pretty sure at one point he has a flashback to shooting his mom when he sees Marina.

>>15401080
It was a really heart-warming scene and the perfect conclusion to setsuna's character

>>15396701
>Is she the second worst gundam princess after Lacus?

No, she is the best princess bar none.

>>15401080
Is there a translated version of this?

>>15401166
y or ur rong

>>15401018
What.
Do you want me to go over the transcript for the episode line by line?
He literally stops short as soon as he hears her song. Even the Katharon people on the plane were bewildered by the sudden music coming out of nowhere.
The sudden turn of events coupled with Setsuna recognizing the voice as Marina's, makes for a very confused Setsuna.

Ali of course takes the opportunity to fuck off.

>>15401753
yep, here ya go
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1176535

>>15396701
The worst and second worst are Dorothy and Relena. Next is those two weird twins from Moon Moon and then their clones Dianna and Kihel. Then that idiot girl from Victory. Marina is only slightly worse than Captain Anus.
>>15401166
Best princess is McGillis, obviously.

>>15401772
It doesn't show anything, though.

>>15401989
If you're using noscript allow donmai.us
Otherwise click on the image.
If you're on mobile then you're shit outta luck.

>>15401994
I'm on a PC, I don't have noscript and it doesn't work on any browser. The image appears for less than one second and then the page loads completely without it.

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>>15402151
Not him, but I think pic related might be your problem.

>>15402197
Okay, I'm a retard.

>>15400919
SetsunaxGundam is the canon OTP.

>>15402445
How can a man be paired with himself?

>>15402445
Has anyone ever drawn an anthropomorphized Exia?

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>>15402635
Anon, it's Japan

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>>15402635
Many.

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>>15400861
Consider our location for a moment.

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>>15402646
Better one.

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we doing this?

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>he

>>15402885
>Implying he(female) just didnt implant his mind into a female body for that infiltration mission

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>>15402885
>>15402901
That scene raises so many questions

Does Tieria regularly practice ballroom dancing?
For that matter, does he regularly practice walking and dancing in high heels? It is a skill.
Does he keep a tailored dress, just waiting for one of these missions?
How was he able to get such a convincing pair of fake tits in such a revealing gown, when he has literally nothing to work from?
I have many more questions, but this is getting pedantic.

>>15402971
>How was he able to get such a convincing pair of fake tits
It's the 2300s, isn't it? Surely they'd have hyper-realistic temporary breasts by then.

>>15402971
Sumeragi is the answer to almost all your questions and the rest of them are covered by Tieria's Innovade nature.

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>>15402646
>>15402662
>>15402793
>>15402802

>>15402885
>>15402932
>>15402971

Requesting that alleged early lineart of Tieria as a skirt and sweater-clad qt btw grill

>>15402993
Tieria can't practice ballroom dancing with Sumeragi when they spend 70% of their time together in 0G on a cramped ship. I guess he might learn a good bit on the subject through Veda, though without any real practice, I don't know that it would develop well.

Same with the high heels, only significantly more ridiculous.

A dress tailored for Sumeragi definitely would not fit Tieria. Not seeing how being an Innovade helps here.

I'm going with >>15402981 's explanation

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>>15402971
>For that matter, does he regularly practice walking and dancing in high heels? It is a skill.

>>15396701
very wrong

>>15396701
>pesrian
>white
>called "marina"
>definitively not a persian name
>degenerate

Worst princess of all time.

>>15404319
She's royalty. It's pretty common for royalty to not resemble their subjects due to foreign marriage.

>>15404319
>degenerate
what?

>>15404319
Persians were the original Aryans anon

>>15396960
No she invested in an orphanage and managed shit for a private military contractor.

>>15404987
dress like a chink or a western and fight the religion of her country.
And I don't remember if she took the kurdish D.

>>15405158
An orphanage is infrastructure, you dolt. A school too. She seemed to be involved in building up Chryse as a whole.

She was basically a stock broker too. She took most Tekkadan members savings and invested them elsewhere.

>>15405323
She didn't fight the religion of her country.
She literally believed in it and just fought against a certain branch of her country's religion that wasn't even a majority.

>>15405323
Setsuna outright stated at one point that he and Marina "didn't have that kind of relationship", so it's a fair guess that she didn't take the "Kurdish D"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edaC4IX0IZs

>9 years ago

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>>15406108
>not available in your country
Dammit Sony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tyvqoR5wxk

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You have no knowledge of 00 except that there are 4 Gundam pilots, and all of them are in this picture. Which do you think they are?

>>15406222
Well naturally it would have to be the four along the top. The boy at the front looks like a kid mascot, and this is Gundam so it wouldn't be women, which rules out the two brunettes, the pink haired one and the purple haired girl in the cardigan.

>>15406222
>guy with hair over eye will pilot orange gundam
TROWA 2.0 INCOMING

>>15406222
Also one of the guys there is 75% cyborg

>>15406222
The kid in front is obviously gonna be the "random kid falls into the Gundam" guy.
The rest at the front row are obvious bridge bunnies.
Guy at the back left is probably the ship captain while the other 3 are the other pilots.

>>15402971
The fact that this was the first option Sumeragi had for getting info off the Innovators leads me to believe she had this plan ready for a while. Maybe she's into traps?

>>15406222
I completely forgot how ridiculous Feldt's outfit looked in S1.

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Poverty Princess is cute! CUTE!!

>>15406222
I wonder how well would everyone do everyone else's job? Like Hal/Al trying to execute completely different strategies at the same time.

>>15396701
She wasn't even a peace princess
She just wanted to unfuck her country

>>15406828
don't we all

>>15407094
Welp, so much for that

>>15406828
>princess of a ruined country.
>one of the few people being a total pacifist in Gundam.

While her interest was focused on saving Azadistan and preventing Setsuna dying a meaningless (for her) death, she still qualifies as a peace princess.

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>>15396763
>>15406818

Now is she really that poor?

I thought it was just a case of her country being in poor shape, but she herself having relative wealth.

Kind of like Tetenith Dogatie from Crossbone Vanguard when she took power.

>>15396701
No, Marina is THE worst, between her and her stupid orphan plot, plus her pacifist bullshit dragging down everyone around her.

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>>15406222
from just looking and magically pretending I knew nothing about the show. Pilots

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>>15408862
She may not be literally starving, but her palace does have that "treasury drained, better start selling furnitures" look to it. The halls may be stately, but the rooms and even walls are very very empty looking with basic, utilitarian furnishing. I mean just look at this balcony. Where is the collected, fine sets of tables and chairs? Where is the elegant lighting fixtures? Where are the ornate candle stands?

>>15406222
Litchty always looked like the MC to me, he had the typical look that anime MCs have had for the past 17 years
Feldt always seemed like a main heroine.
Tierria looked like the quiet bridge bunny that handles navigation and radar stuff.
Lasse looks like the guy that would be either jealous of the MC and become his closest ally.
Hallelujah looks like the edgy/moody one.
Lockon was the senpai that dies or betrays the team.
Sumeragi fits as Captain or one of the pilots' love interests.
Setsuna looks like he would be a Katz, but instead of being annoying he wants to fight in a mobile suit.

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>>15409474
And this shot of her room. What kind of a sparse looking royal guest/meeting room is this? The lamp literally looks like it was salvaged from a random antique shop. It's more sparsely furnished than Kudelia's office for crying out loud.

>>15409494
>>15409474
Marina is obviously a minimalist, she's definitely the type to go "I can't have all this expensive stuff while my people starve"

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>>15409494
Here's an even better shot. This is the room that she and her secretary spend most of their time in, watching TV and talking policy, but just look at it. The room looks like it's made to hold three times the furniture and decoration than it actually does. The chairs looks like typical antiques. The carpet is worn. The sofa looks comfy enough, but isn't anything extravagant. The only stately looking piece of furniture is that cabinet in the back, but who knows how long that will stay? Maybe it too will have to be pawned to cover cost for replacement medical equipment when the next missile hit the country's only research hospital.

>>15409501
That's a good point. She probably hold auctions in rich countries to collect funds for holiday celebrations for her countrymen.

>>15409474
>>15409494
>>15409524

Now to be fair, she may just not want a lot of furniture or may feel that it'd be wrong to live in extravagance while her people are in squalor.

Or she may have a spartan upbringing. I remember it's said that one of the Prussian Kings (Fredrich the Great was it?) had a palace that was supposedly known for it's sparse decorations.

>>15409553
Granted, but old furniture doesn't just disappear by themselves. If the palace isn't built recently, then it must have seen better days than hers. I will conceded that Marina doesn't seem like the type who can stand living in opulence while her citizens starve though. I just think it would be fitting, and funny, if she had to auction off her belongings for a variety of reasons over time.

>>15409553
>>15409569
IIRC, Marina was born and raised as regular citizen. Then one day the government decides to reinstate a monarchy for PR reasons, and Marina is the closest living blood relative to the previous ruling family, so she goes from music teacher to princess.

>>15396701
She is both portrayed and cast as someone who doesn't have the means or ability to change the story or influence the events of the plot. Which was a refreshing take on Gundam princesses after a slew of characters like Relena, and Lacus. Also it really really REALLY helps Marina isn't forced on us every episode like Kudelia, Relena, etc...are

>>15402971
>>15402932
>>15402885
Tieria isn't a he or a she. Some Innovades like him or Regene did not have defined genders. Those tits were probably cloned and grafted to his body or VEDA genetically modified his body to have a flush of estrogen and other female specific hormones to grow breasts.

>>15405068
They still are.

>>15404319
>misspelling Persian
>Marina
That's actually similar to Marna (meaning from the shoreline roughly) and Maryam which means (rebelling woman). So its pretty much a Persian/Iranian name. Azadistan borders, setting, environment, and landscape as well as geographic form even match with modern Iran's.

>degenerate
How?

>>15409851
This is probably why they sent Setsuna as Tieria's driver, rather than Lockon II.

>So... is this something you can do more often? Because I...
>Continue that sentence Lockon Stratos, and I will personally ensure you end up like your predecessor.
>...
>...
>Lockon Stratos, targeted, but definitely not firing tonight...

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>Lockon died

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>>15409874
Fuck, that's perfect

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>>15409874
>>15409851

>>15409983
I do think the tits were actually real. He probably injected himself with some GN nanomachines that inflated his breasts to be like a woman and everything else.

Are there even doujins of Setsuna, Lyle, or Ribbons ass-fucking shemale Tieria?

>>15410194
it's a comic
lighten up

>>15410194
>He probably injected himself with some GN nanomachines that inflated his breasts to be like a woman and everything else.
...Is this why all of the CB girls are stacked?

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>>15396701

>>15410194
I like to think that Regene Regetta gave him some pointers

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>>15406108
>tfw 9 years since weve had a god tier gundam OP

>feldt didn't win

>>15409905
>Lockon dies and is replaced with his twin brother who is also a sniper
there were so many ways they couldve dropped another character into Lockon's slot.

>>15411205
His brother was a shitty sniper though, Lockon 2.0 liked being on close to mid range while fighting while Lockon 1.0 was a god tier sniper that was incredibly shitty and close quarters, Lockon 1.0 also liked being aloof dispenser of wisdom while his brother was more chill and emotional

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>>15406222
I actually have no knowledge of 00, always meant to watch it, never got around to it, figured I'd pick up the BDs but never did.

how on/off the mark am I?

>>15411245
2 of the bridge crew and 2 of the pilots are swapped, the useless lil shit is accurate though.

>>15411250
hah, neat. at least I was right about one thing.
I'll keep the picture and find out which ones i swapped. thanks anon!

>>15411223
But anon, he pilots a green gundam with a sniper rifle. That's obviously his only character trait, and as such he's completely indistinguishable from his brother. Literally the same character.

>>15411205
>showed Lyle early in season 1
>complain he's in season 2
I bet you are one of those still delusional Lassefags from all those years ago.

>>15411118
Rage of Dust was great. Didn't care for the other OPs though.
I loved Reconguista's OP, and GBF had great music all around.

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>>15411250
Shut your whore mouth about my waifu!

>>15411467
Your waifu is space debris

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>>15411526

She just wanted to change the world, a good man and for Feldt to quit being an introvert.

>>15411541
She got a good cyborg.

>>15411585
For like ten seconds

>>15411587
Explosive ten seconds, you mean.

>>15411541
Chris was best 00.

>>15411541
>Chris and Lichts deaths
Legitimately saddening, just like Kinue's, and Lockon's in season 1. Same with Louise losing her family due to Nena's bullshit at the wedding. Glad she got her comeuppance in season 2 for that.

>>15412188
>That scream from Feldt
It was heartrending.

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>>15406108
>>15411118

9 years since we had a Gundam I enjoyed.

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Is this Marina or a human representation of Exia?

>>15413946
Gundam Wiki (yes, I know) claims that the production staff said that it's the latter; you're supposed to be 'able to tell' from her hair and eyes being a slightly different color from Marina.

If human Exia is this pretty, I wonder how human 00 Raiser/Qan[t] would look.

>>15414318
>the production staff said that it's the latter; you're supposed to be 'able to tell' from her hair and eyes being a slightly different color from Marina
Yeah, I see it now. Eyes are green as opposed to blue and her hair isn't black.
>If human Exia is this pretty, I wonder how human 00 Raiser/Qan[t] would look.
Well, something of Setsuna's would definitely be raising.

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>>15414318
fuck that, what would a Repair version look like?
>eyepatch
>scars
>short hair
>wounded, but determined look in her eye

>>15414318
>>15413946
Why make a representation of exia in the first place?
What meaning does that symbolism have?

>>15415245
I'm just going to pretend it's Marina because it makes more sense that way

>>15415245
Setsuna is Gundam. Gundam is the woman in Setsuna's life.

>>15414318
Wait. If human Exia looks like Marina, and she reminds Setsuna of his mother, suddenly his obsession with Gundam takes a new meaning.

>>15415622
...oh

>>15396722
>having the the orphans sing so Setsuna went UNDERSTANDING when fighting Ali
Not really her fault? Setsuna just went full retard for plot convenience. We can't have the bad guy killed in such an anticlimatic way, you know.

>>15396763
Yeah, I like how when shit hits the fan she can't do anything apart from playing with children and singing. As expected of royals? They are mere symbols.

>>15396752
Sorry, but Relina was pant-shittingly hilarious in how fucking clueless she was to begin with. At least she had a character arc and actually grew. Going from clueless puppy, hopelessly in love with a terrorist who she thinks she can change, to the badass pacifist princess who don't take no shit from nobody.

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>>15406818
Not even best girl in series. I want to get dommed by Shirin so fucking hard...

>>15417177
Shirin probably is a god damn tigress in the sheets.

DAREKA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>15417203
fuck off i hated that op so much

>>15417512
I love it now thanks to that previous 00 thread.

https://youtu.be/umjtA_57RNA

>>15417661
that just makes you gay. doesn't fix it.

>>15417813
It literally opens with a bunch of naked ladies with incredibly large breasts. That is the opposite of gay.