THE FIRST FEMALE KAMEN RIDER APPARENTLY

ANN are idiots who don't actually do any research, what else is new?

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>>15387384
>Anime "A show about airsoft sucks because it promotes gun culture and school shootings" News Network

>>15387384

Okay let's discard for a moment the Movie female Riders... She isn't even the first Kamen Rider in a tv series.

At this point her inclusion isn't anything special. Well maybe that she was a main character from the begining and became a Rider (Again in the tv series, since Kivala did that in the movies) is slightly unique, but I could be wrong.

>>15387634
>At this point her inclusion isn't anything special. Well maybe that she was a main character from the begining and became a Rider (Again in the tv series, since Kivala did that in the movies) is slightly unique
Yeah, that really is the only unique thing about her. Main female character who permanently is becoming a Rider, rather than only in a movie or a one shot transformation (like Megumi from Kiva using Ixa).

>>15387384
Was it really that hard to look and see that there was a female Rider just last year?

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>kamen rider

The article ANN is referencing says Poppy is the first TV series female kamen rider with her own transformation device.

>>15387835
still wrong.

>>15387835
>>15387873

I think it actually she;s the first MAIN heroine who gets her own transformation device in the series

which you know, is one hell of a stretch to make notable.

>>15387384
>The 2008 series Kamen Rider Kiva temporarily transformed character Megumi Aso into Kamen Rider Kiva-la
In a surprising turn, a bad anime news website knows jack shit about Toku.

>>15387884
It really is a stretch with regards to the show when the main heroine is moreso the Asuna persona, yet the fucking news writer never mentioned that.

>>15387384
>couldnt even bother to check the wiki
Well, we cant blame the guy for not being a true toku fan.


>>15387835
Then the title should inform this. Its misleading.
And, as said, its still wrong.

>>15387945
what's wrong?

>>15387957
Its not her own unless you're specically talking about her gashat. Chronicle uses the buggle driver 2 as well.

>>15387980
But just the driver won't work.
The gashat is part of the transformation device.
Missing any piece they can't Rider.

>>15387980
Well, it is her's, since she's using it first. When the reverse happens, a female character uses the transformation device, people don't say it belongs to both of them, they say the girl is using the guy's device.

It's a technicality, but it's there.

>>15387980
That's my bad then. Original article's exact wording is "personal item". Didn't know this thread would get so technical.

I don't really give a shit either way, but you guys have fun arguing about the technicality on that.

>>15387384

These people are so fucking retarded, thank god the comments there aren't as cancerous.

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>>15387384
>by Lynzee Loveridge

>>15387659
You mean all of the fifteen seconds that Pink Necrom showed up?

>>15388005
>Didn't know this thread would get so technical
I'm only getting technical to make fun of how far the original Japanese article had to get to make this notable.

>>15387990
So marika?

>>15387384
She is technically the first main female character that henshins without a "whore belt" outside of movies (like Koyomi becoming Wiseman or Natsumi becoming Kivala).

>>15388007
What are the comments like

>>15388045
>whore belt
what

>>15388045
The Bugvisor II is still a Bugvisor. GENM, Graphite, Poppy and Chronos all use it.

It's a whore belt.

Man, you could kill a man with that huge asterisk.

>>15388045
Chronicle also uses the same driver.

>>15388097
He means a driver used by many people. As is this case.

>>15388005
The ones who started with the technicalities are them by stating conditions under which the previous female riders dont count. And failing at that.

>>15388097
A whore belt is a transformation device that has more than one user like the belts in Faiz or TheBee Zecter.

>>15388024
It is notable. How many of the main girl characters got to transform with their own suit within the series? Poppy is kind of significant.

Agito - Mana - didn't transform
Ryuki - Yui - didn't transform
555 - Mari - failed henshin
Blade - Hirose - didn't transform
Hibiki - Hinaka - wasn't an oni thus no transformation
Kabuto - Hiyori - wasn't even in a good portion of the show
Den-O - Hana - no transformation
Kiva - Natsumi - used Nago's IXA belt like once or twice
Decade - Natsumi - became Kivala in a movie
W - Akiko - became W in a dream
OOO - Hina - didn't transform
Fourze - Yuuki - didn't transform aside from becoming Gemini Zodiarts
Wizard - Koyomi - became White Wizard in a movie
Gaim - Mai - didn't transform into a Rider
Drive - Kiriko - didn't transform
Ghost - Akari - didn't transform

>>15388103
Not really. They are like the energy riders or sengoku drive belts, they are multiple versions so multiple riders can use them, but with a different henshin device so each has a different costume .

>>15388118
Considering how little Koyomi did. It is possible Mayu appeared more.

>>15388118
http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Female_Riders

This is the only thing you need to respond to this post with. You don't need to respond with anything else to this bait.

>>15387384
>Technically, Kamen Rider Poppi isn't the first female Kamen Rider but she is the first permanent Kamen Rider herione.

Read the article.

>>15388118
But you've gotta admit that there were an excessive amount of concessions from the original statement, like in this thread:
>1st female rider
which definitely wasn't true, so it shifted to
>1st female rider in a tv series
which still wasn't true, so it became
>1st female rider with her own transformation device
which still isn't right, so it had to end in this frankenstein
>1st female rider who was the lead female in a tv series
literally needs the whole sentence to be true, lose any part and it becomes false. mostly hinges on the "tv" part to exclude someone and the "female lead" to exclude another.

>people actually take ANN as an authority of anything
I can't take any of these weeb "news networks" seriously, especially not the tokusatsu one

>>15388156
>permanent
Isn't it far far too early to make that claim?

>>15388168
She's part of the toyline, the main heroine and there's the red/blue eyes thing. She's at least lasting until the final few episodes.

>>15388194
She's also the psuedo-human of the series, they aren't always so "permanent".

>>15388156
>article title says thing
>first paragraph admits it's not actually thing but the opposite thing
So, fake news clickbait?

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>>15388156
>first permanent Kamen Rider herione.

Well, fuck you too, then.

>>15388216
Heroine. As in the main girl. Marika is not the main girl, Mai is.

>>15388216
I love Peach. But she isn't introduced until Gaim 14. Mai is the main female character.

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>>15388227
Marika is more of a villain anyway, at first.

I'd argue that even if the name doesn't include Kamen Rider, Tackle was the first female rider. If Riderman is considered a Rider, then Tackle should be too.

If not her, then Femme, though I don't remember her ever transforming onscreen.

>>15388227
>Heroine. As in the main girl.
Do you not know what the word "heroine" means? It doesn't mean "main girl".

>>15388267
>If not her, then Femme, though I don't remember her ever transforming onscreen.

Femme is a movie-only character.

>>15387884

This is it. The wording used in the original article uses the same version of the word "heroine" Toei uses to refer to the lead actress of the show.

>>15388267
Oh wait, now I remember her transforming onscreen. So Femme then. Shame that she died but what else is new

>>15388273
We're talking about Kamen Rider. And in Kamen Rider it CERTAINLY does.

>>15388274
A movie that specifically served as the final episode, it was even "next time on.."d n the last regular episode and was marketed as such.

>>15388267
Femme wasn't even in the show though. She was in a movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvZdShwehIg

Though she is apparently more prominent in the Inoue novelization (the one with Ouja was born in a literal pile of human feces and killed his mom as a baby)

>>15388282
No it doesn't numb-nuts. "Main girl" serves as "main girl". This is just a case of being lazy as fuck, it's not even that harder to type.

>>15388298
Why are all the novels so fucked up?

>>15388292
A "final episode" that was airing halfway through the series. It was just a gimmick for the marketing.

>>15388302
Nope, "Heroine" is commonly used in Japan to reference the "main girl" position.

>>15388302
Are you fucking new faggot? Every single press release titles the lead actress as the "HEROINE." Literally nobody else in the entire cast is called that but them.

>>15388309
because sunday morning programs are for infants

There was that movie where riderman was a woman too

>>15388309
One word: Inoue.

There is a reason he is no longer writing the show.

>>15388331
I'd like to read one of the novels some day. They sound hilariously edgy.

>>15388317
Generic casting types doesn't magically change the meaning of the word, idiot, no matter how you try to weasel reality into it. "Hero", "heroine", "sidekick", are type-casts, not defintions of the terms, and when you're using english words in an english sentence, you put quotations around those words you're using in a vastly different context than usual. That's basics.

>>15388331
Water protection?

>>15388352
Simple rule in his world
No matter if you are the hero or not
No matter you are doing for the greater good or not
If you killed someone you will have to pay for what you did with your own life

>>15388362
We. Are. Talking. About. Kamen. Rider.

We're not discussing the meaning of the word in English. Pick up on context without having it fucking handed to you on a platter. We're talking about what it means in this context of casting titles. Fuck off newfag.

Enough about ANN, how about the tokusatsu news network, think I saw they did an article on "Takaiwa pose" used our image with the hands? Are we being scooped by both them and Jefusion now?

So the article was completely wrong? What exactly was the point of the article they attempted to translate? Poppy is the first main girl Kamen Rider?

I don't understand the point of posting that Pac-Man movie snippet either, that came out last year when SHT just came out a few weeks ago

>>15387384
Anon that article gave me cancer.

>>15388399
>newfag
We've used the "mains" designation on this board for as long as it's been doing toku, where the fuck are you from? What message board did you migrate from?

>>15388422
Come on anon. Only a newfag would take offense to being called a newfag. The jig is up.

>>15388399
>We're talking about what it means in this context of casting titles.
Jesus... j-drama shits.

>>15388428
What's next, "why so mad"? I'm sure they miss you back at reddit.

>>15388411
After W's extreme mode got out through us we can comfortably retire from the scoopz biz

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>>15388420
and me robo cancer

>>15388411
They already admitted to coming here and are also as shit as ANN.

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It's time to stop.

ALL OF YEW!

>>15388459
Tom has always been here.

>>15388411
Tokunet's stream of April Fools posts was terrible. They should've stuck to one post or none at all.

>>15388131
Technically gaim doesnt have a criteria for the energy tider suits.

>>15388118
>>15388162
Ixa still kills it.
>b but she used it like twice!
Still, she used it.
>b but that's too technical!
You have to go technical to make poppi a first in the first place.

>>15388267
The kame rider designations are 100% arbitrary though. Tackle is not a rider because she's not considered a rider.

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>>15388156
>but she is the first permanent Kamen Rider herione.

Man, that statement could hella backfire what with there being like 20 or so episodes left. A lot can happen between now and then. Especially in Ex-Aid with a survival game going on.

>>15388273
I agree with you but the word heroine has been used as sinonimous with female main for a while, particularly in anime.

>>15388411
If you mean yesterday's one that was april's fools.

>>15388417
They wanted clickbait.

>>15388548
The statement was probably approved by Toei. The original article (that ANN sourced) definitely read as "first full time heroine Kamen Rider"

>>15388531
They were mostly fucking terrible but it was funny seeing PRfags get hyped over nothing.

>>15388580
I think I see what's going on. Toei PR department trying to garnish attention, which obviously worked. Knowing them, they'll eventually disavow it later.

i bet it is still a man in the suit.

>>15388422
And Toei has used the "heroine" designation for longer than Toku has been on this board.

>>15387384
Can't be a kamen rider, doesn't look like an insect.

>>15388532
Not really IXA gets passed around by everyone Kengo, Nago, Jiro, Otoya even Spider Fangire get a chance. It's why it's not really a thing.

>>15388267
Those designs are fucking terrible.

>>15388666
It's clearly a man in those promo shots.

Which is weird because they have a female suit actor at this point.

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>>15387384
>Kamen Rider Ex-Aid
WTF has Kamen Rider become?

Kamen Rider Black was the apex of Kamen Rider, after black it was just a big downhill.

>>15388532
Eh, I'd say a main heroine Kamen Rider in a tv show is still a pretty significant thing for a series with so many seasons but that always tried to avoid it.

>>15388698
So? Doesn't change the terminology we use here.
Most people don't care about the production side or the production-specific terminology they use. They just care about the show (plot, characters, toys).

>>15388698
I think the word "the" is somewhat operative here. "The heroine of the series" is something we hear quite a bit, in that context anyone filling the role of heroine is excluded sans the main one.

>>15388717
The asos are female, leads and transformed on tv. What you said doesnt contradict any of this. Read properly.

>>15388746
I'm not saying poppi doing it its not significant, I'm saying its not a first.

>>15388698
The main issue, when you get down to it, is that when people didn't get that somewhat obscure production terms where being used, the response wasn't simply explaining it, it was snobby asshole remarks and insults. Even your post sounds prickish.

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Shotaro Ishinomori must be rolling on his grave. Well, I think nips cremate their deads so his ashes must be rolling now

>>15388914
Considering how Toei and Onodera have misused his IPs in the last decade, I think he must have rolled fast enough to turn into a Rider by now.

>>15388759
it's not even about the terminology WE use HERE. The article said "heroine" and a picture of Marika was posted in this thread to contest their usage of that word. They OBVIOUSLY meant it in the Toei sense of things. This is about you (or some other anon, I don't give a fuck) not understanding their context and starting an argument for no reason. You should have just understood what they meant and moved on.

>>15388977
The issue is you acting like an asshole, and you know it. Instead of just explaining you were using an uncommon specific definition of a common word, you resorted to insults and went into a tantrum. And no, I'm not that anon.

Why don't you guys take this argument to the ANN articles comment section so they delete the article because of how autistic the comment section is

>>15387431
>>Anime "A show about airsoft sucks because it promotes gun culture and school shootings" News Network
Pardon?

>>15387384
It's statement from Toei not ANN

>>15388914
Rider was just another job to him not a fucking passion project
Why would he care?

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>>15388733

>>15389602
>Rider was just another job to him not a fucking passion project

Nigga. He made the producer turn around and start all over just cause he wasn't 100% pleased with the original designs.

>>15389799
You've got it backwards.

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>hero
>is literally evil and is gonna fight Emu in the next ep

Fucking stupid.

>>15387651
>Yeah, that really is the only unique thing about her. Main female character who permanently is becoming a Rider
Gaim, you dumb shit.

>>15389868

Mai never became a Rider. Yoko/Marika was always secondary cast.

>>15389868
Marika is not the main female character. She only shows up near the 2nd Quarter of Gaim. The main female character is Mai. Do you even watch the show.

>>15389868
They're talking about a female rider who is 1.) the main female role, and 2.) excluding all/any movies.
So yeah, with a buttload of rules added, she's a "first" something. Oh, I think people are reading the "main girl" bit as "permanent", so yeah, that's confusing cuz the show isn't over. It's all PR anyway.

>>15388149
Rinko Daimon would still beat her and her only transformations were in movies and such.

>>15388267
Tackle isn't a Rider, dumbass

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>tfw nobody remembers you

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>>15388714
What do you mean?

>>15390024
>Main Heroine
>>15389961
Worst case scenario she dies and pulls a Riderman and shows up later without explanation

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>>15389207
Zac Bertschy of ann called the airsoft anime C3-bu a k-on clone that promotes school shootings because they are a club that plays with (fake) realistic-looking guns.

>>15389994
Tackle will always be a rider to me no matter what Toei says.

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>>15390024
Now they will.

>>15390187
>Don't paint the barrel orange
ABSOLUTE MADMEN

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>>15387431
Whoever they got to do Manga reviews is equally stupid.

They complain when a characters hands or feet are drawn too small (and then make the grade lower because of it) but always ignore that anime eyes are usually always drawn three times bigger then normal people eyes.

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>>15390222

>>15390290
This looks pretty awful. The only things going for it is TnA, and even then that is hindered by being ugly.

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>>15390024
It could have been worse, she's arguably more fondly remembered then these guys.

>>We would have gotten the Decade Hibiki worlds ending but with all of the Hibiki Riders making a huge battle orchestra if the staff change didn't happen

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>>15390310
Well what about THIS one!

>>15390320
delet/10

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>>15390330
How about Kabutos attempt?

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>>15390330
I would say it's arguably better then what they actually went with.

>>15390336
Looks more like a Sentai villain deshou

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>>15390356
The rabbit hole is deep

>>15390363
That is a man.

>>15390363
>KR Poppy in the ryuki universe

>>15390385
The person playing it or this stage show only character? The breasts and skinny arms lead me to believe otherwise.

But I'm sure you have the original Japanese source for it and in that source it says it's a man and you will show this to me and point it out as I can not read Japanese and will need your assistance.

>>15390421
It literally says on KRWiki that Kamen Rider Papillon is male.

>>15390423
Those types of wikis also says Finster looks like a dog and that Miss Americas original stunt actor left at episode 24 when it was episode 16.

I would prefer a real source, if it's all the same.

>>15390423
There's also no source given and the picture used is a completely different Rider. Not even a blank form, the visor is different.

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>>15390423
I actually think they fucked up and the picture they used for Kamen Rider Cerberus is a random Mirror Monster, the image used for Papillon is what Cerberus actually looks like, and what Papillon looks like is this >>15390363

So uh

>>15387384
Why the hell is ANN writing about tokusatsu?

>>15390654
Trying to get more people without adblock to look at their website

>>15390312
>a huge battle orchestra if the staff change didn't happen
That wasn't in the plan so it won't happen anyways

>>15388931
I bet he put a curse on those who hate Shin.

>>15390742
Of course it won't happen now. Hibiki has been over for years! Plus the reused the idea for the Decade episode.

>>15390765
Yonemura is the true hero for making that happen.
Definitely not Takatera the yes-man.

>I have a journalism degree but I can't fucking Google the thing I'm writing an article about
>then when I have to fix my mistake ill do it in a passive aggressive way like I find my target Audience and doing my job proper to be an inconvenient bother

>>15390789
I got no proof cause I can't read the Japanese, but an anon told (or lied to) me that in one of these SIC pages (I don't know if it's this one) they said they made Ibukis mom because she was supposed to show up at one point before everything went to shit. They do reference her in show so it seemed believable.
Neat if true.

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>>15390816
Oops let me fix that faggot mistake of forgetting the image.

>>15388020
...is that a real name?

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>>15390803
At least they fixed it.

Remember the TOP 15 POWER RANGERS RIP OFFS article that never got deleted?

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>>15390558
According to some imageboard posts from back when Ryuki was a thing, pic related were Cerebus and contract monster, although he apparently had 3 of them. Wayback Machine doesn't have the images linked that would have been Papillon annoyingly.

>>15388118
How can you fags watch all that overly colorful gimmick shit but not Showa?
At least every Gundam entry that isn't a 00s AU tries to be different

>>15390858
Because TATAKAE

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>>15388718
It's one of the only 4 Kamen Rider shows worth watching to non-autists. Stronger, Amazon, The Original, & Black. Everything else is shite. I mean, not a one of these female riders looks good what the fuck is going on with the Eyes in the OP image & this abomination >>15388216

>>15390845
The head piece still isn't that similar to the one that the Kamen Rider wiki is for whatever reason calling Papillon. (Also the yellow background used in both on the Wiki is really similar to mall stage shows then these obvious outside ones)

I think that unless we can find a Japanese wiki or the sites these were originally posted we may never know.

Nice find though. I had the Rider suit saved but not the contract beast.

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>>15390823
Kamen Rider Fubuki
The name only showed up on the work shift list.
There is no character setting for this character.
Hobby Japan made her up because there are too many male characters.
Also she is NOT stated as Ibuki's mom.

>>15391005
>>His mom was mentioned in series as a well known Oni
>>Her name is Fubuki
>>Same type of oni

Well like...

She might as well.

>>15391005
So what, they are going to make Ruriko get a Kamen Rider form as an old lady who was captured by Shocker when she accompanied Hongo to Europe and was assumed dead since was in the middle of the brainwashing?

>>15391029
Ibuki has 2 older brothers who are also well known Oni.
His second brother got killed years ago in a mission.
Judging by that his mom will be somewhere in her 50s. I'm sure I won't ask her to her ass out like the others in the field.

>>15391034
Ruriko was presumed to be dead when she followed Hongo overseas. Check out Hirayama's son's blog and other material about the last things his dad talked about while in hospital.

>>15391047
Link?

>>15391074
old blog http://riderproducer.blog.fc2.com/
new blog http://ameblo.jp/riderproducer
Help youself. I won't dig it out for you.
Search for the talk between Hirayama and Morikawa (Ruriko's actress). There are a couple chapters with what exactly had happened on the set back in the days in the books as well.

>>15391125
Thanks. I had no real idea what direction to start with in looking for this and then got sidetracked by other articles about Kamen Rider.

>>15391134
That blog(s) is pretty interesting to read for it is completely against heisei rider and Toei.
You will find more topics on how Hirayama's son thinks Tsuburaya's Ultraman series is the only way to go for reviving the true Rider spirit.

>>15388273
The problem is that the Japanese do not truly understand the meaning of that word.

Heroine = Woman who is a Hero

Hero = Heroics.

But nope, most Japanese media "heroines" aren't even that.

>>15388914
Considering that ishinomori created a guy called Amazon with no flipping idea about the other meaning of that word,......

Well yeah.

Why couldn't at least called him Amazon Man?

>>15388118
>Drive - Kiriko - didn't transform
WATCH TYPE TOKUJO, JERK!
...At least she attempted to...

>>15391679
There is no "other meaning" of that word, the amazon river was named that because early europeans were attacked by warrior women, amazons. The rainforrest being named after a greek mythology doesn't mean everything associated with it is female.

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>>15391679
>>15391769
Anyway, he certainly knew the meaning of both, he even made a manga about one.

>>15391679
It's literally like complaining that Capt. America isn't named Capt. America Man since "america" is the female form of the name "americus".
Deal with it, like boats n shit, people like naming places with female names.

>>15387384
If shin counts as a Rider then Tackle does too, name notwithstanding,

>>15391844
Tackle is in that "unoffical" limbo along with Shadowmoon, Another Agito, Alternate Zero, etc.
Though Another Agito is apparently going to be a Go-Rider, so he might get upgraded.

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>UPDATE: The previous version of this article misrepresented Kamen Rider Poppi as the first long-term female Kamen Rider member. The article is now corrected to clarify that Kamen Rider Poppi is the first female Kamen Rider with her own exclusive transformation items. I apologize for this error and extend my thanks to ANN readers for bringing these corrections to my attention.

>>15387384
>ANN
Christ. I when they fucked up the NnT trailer by mistranslating "seikishi" (holy knight) as "sexy".

>>15392185
Shit, was meant to be "I remember when".

>look at thread
>Such AUTISM
Wizard's Mages. Kivala. Shuki. Tackle (I don't care what Spirits says).
There.

Wasn't the first Delta a grill?

>>15392225
Yeah, another girl also used it once as well.

>>15392225
Yes, but
>whore belt

>>15391874
They're all official characters. Tackle is stated to not be a rider in spirits. Another agito is not in any limbo as its considered a kamen rider now.
As for alternate zero, there's an old classification that had him a pseudo rider but dont have the scan on hand.

>>15391874
>>15392965
If Riderman is a Rider, then Tackle is a rider, end of story

>>15393083
Nope

>>15390277
Are we really going to pretend like Crayon Shin-Chan doesn't deserve an F for art? Being "ironically" bad doesn't stop it from being bad.

>>15393083
>if this character that's stated to be a kamen rider is a kamen rider then this character stated to not be a kamen rider is a kamen rider, end of story

Ok tumblr.

>>15393083
Riderman is a cyborg with the theme creature being a Kamen Rider.

>>15392965
The conversation was about "riders", not "characters". And I said what I said because Toei, being toei, could make them offical for PR someday.

>>15393106
It's supposed to look like a kids crayon drawing, hence the name

Why would you think it's ironic

>>15390187
Shall not be infringed.

>>15388865
>main issue
heroin issue ftfy

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>>15387384

>>15394301
Not a Kamen Rider.

>>15394301
See>>15393308
Officially she isn't one

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>>15394301
>is she masked(kamen)?
NO!
>is she a rider?
NO!

>>15394349
Wrong Tackle. Try posting something that's not specific to the Decade series.

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Was this a guy then?

>>15394369
Nah, that was a female in suit, space goo everywhere else.

>>15390277
I just realized the Shin Chan pic was from Adult Empire Strikes Back. That movie had good art, especially for the fake Showa town.

After Kamen Rider Decade they have been going downhill.

The design looks like shit. The devices look like fucking cheap chinese toys. It looks like as if they aren't using TV props and just got the regular cheap toy shit.

>>15394365
Tackle is literally not a rider, they made it official she isn't one. They even said Tackle along with Zectroopers are not riders

>>15394380
Correction: they said the AU Tackle from that Decade movie wasn't a rider, not that she is one, cuz she's not, but that image isn't the reason why and shouldn't be passed off as such. It only involves characters from that movie.

>>15394385
The image said Tackle in general doesn't mention the Decade version.

>>15394385
Tackle took over the office that determines Rider status. If Tackle says that Tackle isn't a Kamen Rider, is authoritative.

>>15394393
>The image said Tackle in general
It says alot that you flat-out lied instead of actually accepting that that is a picture of AU Tackle, AU Riderman, DiEnd Summons, and a bunch of AU movie-exclusive characters.
>>15394408
Thank you, finally something that actually has some substance. Like I said before, she doesn't have rider status, but it's not because of a chart that categoried movie or AU characters.

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>>15393083
Riderman has a dick, Tackle doesn't have a dick, end of story

>>15393083
Riderman's eyes aren't transparent, not half of his helmet is taken by a standard cloth mask. The issue with Tackle design-wise is that her face is mostly exposed.

>>15394453
The white Oni is Kiriya's form from Hibiki's final episode. It never appeared in Decade. The Neo Troopers right beside her also were never in Decade. Another Agito also was never in Decade.

They use the AU Tackle suit because it's the only one that exists.

>>15394555
Ishinomori had no control over the shows past initial concept stage. He was too busy with his manga work. Tv series were made entirely by Hirayama and staff. He's just "original creator" and nothing else.

>>15393308
I understand the general idea of the pic and how it classifies them, but what's the context(specifically, why are the g3 system and that hibiki one featured for example), are jap fans as autistic as us and they wanted to clarify?

>>15394599
>They use the AU Tackle suit because it's the only one that exists.
Bwahaha pics of Electrowave Tackle don't exist. Wow delusional as fuck.

>>15393308
>riot-troopers
>kamen rider
Bwahahaha this chart is a joke.

>>15395255
New modern pictures with the same quality as the others don't. They also don't show the Shocker Riders there for example. They aren't Decade-only, but all pictures there are modern.

>>15394957
The top row with the G3 variations and Shadowmoon are actual Kamen Riders. And, yes, it's basically meant to clarify the confusion regarding what is and what isn't a Rider.

>>15395263
Your sad excuses falls short when you consider Riderman.

>>15395261
Mass Production Type Kamen Rider Faiz "Kamen Rider Riot Trooper"

>>15395286
Note that Riderman is the only one there where they mention the civilian name rathe than just calling it "Riderman". The doubt is regarding AU Riderman specifically since he never transformed.

>>15395294
>Mass Production Type Kamen Rider Faiz "Kamen Rider Riot Trooper"
BWAHAHAHAHA did you really think nobody would notice all the shit you added to the front?
The full name, like shown in the article, is ライオトルーパー, you'll never find it referred to as you've renamed them.
Man you'll resort to any kinda lying huh.
Riot-Troopers are apparently "riders" and Zect-troopers are "not" according to that joke.

>>15395304
Or that they didn't revel AU Tackle's name, so they called her "Tackle" instead of "Electrowave Tackle" as the original would've been. You still denying it's the Decade version? Great.

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>1st-female-kamen-rider
>mfw

>>15395340
AU Tackle did have a name, she was just called Yuriko. And she also did call herself Electrowave Human Tackle.

The text on top of the section with Tackle's picture also separately says that "Tackle" isn't a Kamen Rider. If they wanted to reference that they were only talking about Decade's they'd certainly have made some mention there.

>>15395346
How did Riderman stop being dead anyway?

>>15395371
And what do you think the originals first name was? And that new goalpost shift there:
>shift away from the article
>say she was called electrowave human in the movie
>shift back to article
>say "see"
She isn't referred to by her regular full name/title in the article, and she doesn't have a distinct AU name to print. It's simple.

>>15387384
>ANN

>>In an alternate universe where the fallout of World War II led to a global split that left East Germany and West Germany in charge of the entire left and right hemispheres of the earth, the real war is only just beginning!
>>In 1967, the space race resulted in contact with the hostile BETA aliens hiding out on the moon, and their assault on a world too freshly divided turned the earth into a frozen hell!
>>Now specialized squadrons from East Germany, otherwise known as the German Democratic Republic, are dispatched to try and clean up the battlefields with mech-driven heavy artillery, the Robotic Assault Drones, RAD!
>>The 666th squadron, known as the BLACK REAPERS, are the strongest in the corp, but their integrity may be under threat of compromise thanks to infiltration by the evil Stazis, who want to turn the war into a vehicle for East Germany's supremacy.
>>Captain Theodore "Teddie" Ableback, fearful of such an outcome, begrudgingly enlists the help of West German transplant Kate Wallham to turn the tide of this global disaster and save the Earth from the alien threat!

>>15395327
is this some kind of mind trick?

>>15395393
>And that new goalpost shift there:
I mean, you were the one that brought that up. I was just trying to help you out and clear your misunderstanding. In the end, I couldn't do it.

>>15395327
>Riot-Troopers are apparently "riders" and Zect-troopers are "not" according to that joke.
Riotroopers transform and have special attacks and rider gear. Zect Troopers just wear body armor. They aren't alike at all aside from being mass produced.

>>15395446
>gets told it's listed in the article a certain way
>"buh-buh in the movie"
>gets told for a second time that it's listed a certain way
>again
>"buh-buh you're confused!"
And for a thrid time, it's listed IN THE ARTICLE a specific way.
Damn you're obsession with never admitting a mistake is tiresome.
All it proves is the other Tackle isn't a Rider either. Deal with it.

>>15394379
Hallo Thar newfaggot.
Breaking news for krg: all newfags since 2017 have autism.

>>15389961
She's also the first Female Kamen Rider with pink hair and a vag000.

>>15395713
She's also the first one that's digital 1s and 0s...
Unless you count Phillip.

>>15395713
Data doesn't have gender

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>>15395721
>"I'm a computer. I'm a computery guy. Everything made out of buttons and wires."

>>15395722
Wait, so that means Phillip's...

>>15387384
WHAT
I WANTED IT TO BE NICO

>>15387884
>I think it actually she;s the first MAIN heroine who gets her own transformation device in the series
I guess peach doesn't count.

>>15395813
Mai was the Gaim heroine role, dumbass. Marika was a member of a rival gang's hench squad.

>>15395813
Look yoko was great, but she wasn't anywhere near a main character. she was just sort of there at first, then she kind of followed baron and then died. She was one of the most redundant riders in the series. They should have given most of early role to Oren desu

>>15395826
Neck yourself. Oren was a bigger waste of space than Yoko was.

>>15395729
pretty ugly

>>15395833
>one of the few things fun about gaim other than statesman
>waste of space

>>15395823
>Marika was a member of a rival gang's hench squad.
Kinda like what Poppy is right now.

>>15387384
This honestly triggers me, especially since we already had Marika (I know she wasn't the first either) where the actor did her own suit work.

>>15387384
I haven't read the ANN article and only skimmed the Japanese one, but the reason people are making a big deal out of Poppy being a rider is because she is the first main heroine/female lead to get her own unique suit in the main show
Malika isn't the main heroine
Kivala was movie only
Megumi borrowed IXA from Nago a few times, she doesn't have her own suit
I could list all the female riders, but these are the most notable ones. The only thing Poppy doesn't have going for her is her own belt, but you could argue that she's the first one to use the Buggle Driver II

There's no need for this thread to have 200+ replies

>>15398023
Fake outrage is fun.

>>15398023
>its a first based on all of these technicalities
And its a pretty retarded thing to point out as said on the thread you didnt bother to read. Hiiro is the first character who transformed into.kamen rider brave, should we also celebrate him for that? Genm is, iirc, the first planned recolor, how about him?

Also, why draw the line at the driver? We should also add that it has to be hers alone. And that she should have an upgrade. And debut in the first episode of the show. And transform before the mc.

We had a first female rider, femme. That's it.

>>15398139
It came from a japanese article that I'm sure was sanctioned by toei, it's all PR. ANN were the ones who paraphrased it to "first female rider" to be purposely controversial though.

>>15398157
Non sequitur.

>>15398023
The title of the article said FIRST FEMALE RIDER as a clickbait thing. People complained. It changed. There isn't anything worth getting upset about now, but before it was the title. So maybe you should have read the article instead of smelling your own farts.

>>15387384
Anime "Our Source Is Our Ass" News Network

>>15398243
Nope, though it tells volumes that you see every reply as "arguments". I wasn't even the anon that anon was talking to.

>>15395346
Wait a fuck, is that one of the illegally made Asian re-packaged Rider movies? like Super Rider or Hanuman and the Riders?

>>15398299
>Nope
It is though. Toei having a PR article doesn't make Femme not the first female rider or doesn't magically delete all the technicalities required to make Poppi a first.

>though it tells volumes that you see every reply as "arguments"
Then you shouldnt word them as that. You just repeated something already stated that added nothing to the conversation. It could only be (an attempt at least) an argument, doesnt make sense in any other context and you shouldnt have said that "Nope" if it wasnt supposed to be an argument in the first place.

> I wasn't even the anon that anon was talking to.
Oh, so you're a newfag, you have to clarify, otherwise deal with people assuming you're the same guy.

>>15398463
This post is retarded as fuck.
If you're trying to "force an argument", don't be so obvious. Good luck in your continued baiting.

>>15398477
>I want to try to pass obvious and/or wrong shit as smart comments without being called out on it
You have to be the most straight "I-I was pretending to be retarded!!" poster I've seen in a while.

>>15398485
>obvious bait

>>15398486
>Every post against me is bait!!!

>>15395823
>Mai was the Gaim heroine role, dumbass
Original quote:
>>I think it actually she;s the first MAIN heroine

???
Are you retarded or can you just not read?

>>15395826
>Look yoko was great, but she wasn't anywhere near a main character.
She's the third or forth most important character in Gaim depending on which arc you're looking at.

>>15398023
>I haven't read the ANN article and only skimmed the Japanese one, but the reason people are making a big deal out of Poppy being a rider is because she is the first main heroine/female lead to get her own unique suit in the main show

Well you're kind of really wrong. I guess Yoko doesn't count, and I guess Femme doesn't count either because *reasons*.

Yoko is more important to the main story of Gaim than Poppy is to Ex-Aid. Apparently, people don't think she should count because "Well she's not my favorite!" or "Well she was a bad guy!" or something.

>>15398614
The jumping through hoops is what the original article in Japanese was about. Toei using fake news to look important.

>>15398614
>I guess Yoko doesn't count, and I guess Femme doesn't count either because *reasons*.
Doesn't count as what? Female riders? I never said that. I'm talking in the case of female leads or "main heroines". Main heroines in rider is like Mari, Mana, Akiko, Kiriko, etc. It's not about their importance to the overall plot, but more about how they're marketed.
Femme is a movie only character, and the main heroine slot in Gaim is already taken by Mai. Is it really that hard to understand?

>>15398600
>She's the third or forth most important character in Gaim depending on which arc you're looking at.
The fuck are you talking about? when she is introduced she was just an extra rider to make it so that the villian group had 4 riders, as the series progressed she went from being Duke's scheme slut to being baron's. At any point she is less relevant then Gaim, Ryugen, Duke, Baron, Zangetsu and even Knuckle at one point

>>15398864
>>15398987
Bro, don't feed the troll, he's been baiting like crazy.
You're lucky a /krg/ thread "conveniently" popped up, or he'd be here and running you in a circle.

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MAXIMUM BAIT! X!

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Kamen Rider Poppy detail of Heroes. 1 of 2. Uchusen Magazine 156.

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Poppy Detail of Heroes. She is kinda plain.

>>15401815
Cool it's a guy inside

>>15402136
The first pic was what convinced me. That's def a guy's hand.

>>15402136
That is why she wears a skirt. Hide her manly bulge.

>>15401815
>>15401811
Poppy suit actor is the same guy whole played Lazer at level 3 and 5

>>15387384
>>15387384
Marika

>>15404053
>heroine

>>15388733
Hue hue hue

>>15395375
He got better.

>>15402136
Only Marika is a real girl.

>>15401811
>>15401815
I want to crossplay as her

>>15387384
>ANN is shit
What else is new

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>>15406533
Excuse you.

>>15388118
>Den-O - Hana - no transformation
She didn't turn into a rider but she did turn into a loli