Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 2nd Season

>>15381223
First for best boy

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Everything ends like how it started

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>>15381240
>You're a big Gundam
>4u 4u 4u 4u

>>15381223
Is the Monkey going to finally do something useful ?
Will Iok do anything useful ?
Will Rustal do anything other then smile ?

How much of the ep do you guys think will be the battle? I'll guess 18 minutes followed by a 10 year timeskip

So its just going to be Mika, Akihiro, Eugene, Dante, and whoever is in Ride's Shiden vs Julieta and a lot of Grazes. Sounds like its going to be a boring fight unless Julieta brings something that can challenge the Gundams.

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>>15381261
Is Ein kill for good? If so will Gali and Mika both get turned into potatos in the final battle?
I hope Juli puts Gali in an Ein Jar to become Vidar2.0

Why do the normalfags, fujos, Evageeks and Macross World hate Mika so much?

>>15381273
Are you retarded? Gaelio will do nothing more. He doesn't have a fucking Gundam.

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>>15381240
akihiro has a nice gundam but his scissors look like ass

rex lupus looks gangly, he should have done some quadraped shit by now with how long those arms and thick those legs are

vidar was the best mech this series, lots of weapons besides

flauros would have been either first or 2nd if we actually got to see it in action transforming outside of just the OP

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>>15381208
is this even a preview

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>>15381280
Why do the normalfags, fujos, Evageeks and Macross World hate Mika so much?

That's a lie, tho. Those cancerous fanbases love him

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>>15381295
Yes. You should be capable to see some frames in that storyboard.

>>15381262
10-15 with cuts into Kudellia and Atra, then flashforwards after a cliffhanger, then epilouge from what happened then through said flashforward.

does anyone else think orga died to late in the game?

or better, if he died after the battle, which would have been much later but everything else was done

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>>15361330
Wrongneighborhoodfatherfucker.jpg

>>15381341
He died way too late

>>15381341
Everybody in Tekkadan should have died in s1, the story would have been way better off

>>15381262
>How much of the ep do you guys think will be the battle? I'll guess 18 minutes followed by a 10 year timeskip

Maybe they'll go for the Dougram ending, the episode where the professor dies and everybody just goes home. Pretty anticlimatic as endings go. But no, IBO will go for a shittier ending, after all Okada hasn't yet done enough damage.

>>15381368
Literally this.

Meat team vs McGillis should have been the second season.

In part it's like that, actually.

>>15381384
but mcgillis died like a bitch?
>muh bael
lol uninspired design lasts like 3 eps and loses to a chump, absolutely nothing impressive
the only way he could have possibly succeeded was to get mika to fight for him

I dont see how anyone tekkadan lives after this
the guys going to earth to get their shit changed probably can but no one else

>>15381404
>Died trying to solo the entire fleet

What would be a manly way to die then ?

>>15381419
sudoku

>>15381423
Sudokuing yourself by taking down dozen of ennemy MS, wrecking the ace pilot robot and blowing up two of those big ships, probably destroying even more graze along the way is a pretty good sudoku.

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>ride isn't the pilot
so who is?

>>15381280
There is nothing new in that of course.

>>15381297
>That's a lie, tho. Those cancerous fanbases love him
That's not true, tho. they prefer the characters with little or no Mecha action or non-action characters, focused on Drama, SoL, Music, Slice of life, Melodrama, idol's career, Shojo, fujo, yuri and other fucking shit.

Eugene

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>>15381451
>so who is?
Takaki

>>15381438
the only real accomplishment was wrecking the ein suit in the grand scheme of things

>>15381470
I already made peace with the manlet dying, but I really don't want Eugene to die on me too.

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>>15381451
I really like these executioner Grazes. By the way, can anyone confirm if they're derived from the Ground Types or not?

>>15381464
Takaki is busy enjoying life after getting off the wild ride.
BTW that screenshot is from episode 7 of season 2 I think.

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>>15381290

This. Gaelio is more than likely out now for good. His sole reason for affiliating with Rustal was killing McGillis and now it's been fulfilled. He's done unless it's for Julietta's sake.

Maybe he'll rescue her again or something after combat like he did before, but i don't see anything happening with him other than some passive epilogue bullshit.

>>15381482
Pretty sure that they're just repaints of the standard graze with new weapons. They're even using the standard graze thrusters in the butt/ground configuration like we saw back in the first couple episodes of S1.

>>15381273
>>15381290
>>15381495
He'll cry once he knows the truth about Mc if he appears in the epilogue in the hangar

>>15381482
>executioner Grazes
No, it's a variation of the Standard Graze, model number EB06Q Graze Schild.

>>15381240
>Dino barbie
Its dumb, i like it.

>>15381532
>EB06Q Graze Schild
Ahh, I didn't know their official designation until now.

Eugene is in the unicorn graze, Black Mechanics might be in the Riden go

>your face when Julieta and her special squad are just the Reginlaze Julia and some Graze with special paintjobs
They'll tease it as some custom or command variant because they really love pushing Graze models, its been such a weakpoint of IBO. Lack of variety, its like 10 different Graze models, some one offs, Gundams, and the ugly shit Teiwaz used.

>>15381557
Riden Go requires AV and black mechanic doesn't have it.

>>15381295
> that was all the previews
what the shit, is the episode really going to be so balls to the walls insane they cant show a few more stills without spoiling stuff?

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>Literal Fedora Gundam will never be seen on screen
What a waste.

>>15381580
>Fedora Gundam
>Gundam

It's a variant of the Hyakuren.

>>15381580
>fedora
>switchblade

goddamn its all checks out

>>15381273
>>15381290
>>15381495
>>15381519
There is no reasons for him live (episode 22: That is the only reason I live) now that his beloved Senpai is dead and his desire for revenge (Look at me, senpai) fulfilled. I hope he kills himself, die or arrested by the end of all of this.

>>15381451
One of the little kids from S1

Either the one with the baseball cap or the one with the knit hat.

>>15381580
I unironically like this thing.

don't forget to go to the polls and exercise your voting rights
http://www.strawpoll.me/12646206

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>>15381609

>>15381458
He was ruined in s2
I don't think he had a single line that wasn't about muh leader Orga

>>15381643

He was barely even a character in S1, so there wasn't a great deal to 'ruin'.

>>15381451
That kid with one arm that Akihiro was talking to? Have to make Akihiro suffer more, last chance they got to go on about MUH HUMAN DEBRIS

>>15381643
Remember when he was presented like this?:

>Unhappy at having his position usurped by Orga, he begins to nurture a grudge.

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>>15381604
>h-he-he said so himself so that means it's true!
Because Gaelio always said the truth and nothing but the truth to Rustal right?
>I found Julietta who was drifting in deep space alone somewhere in a nanomirror chaff ridden battlefield by coincidence while getting back to the ship
>I couldn't prevent him from taking the Bael
Not to mention the OOC stuff like pic related, whenever he's with Rustal he's basically always behaving like a faithful dog.

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>>15381604
this

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>>15381519
>in the hangar
You, I like you.
Gaelio always looks best when he's standing in a hangar.

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>>15381690
In the end he's actually not that different that he was before. He just broods more. When we first see him, he's a naive whining brat. And he's STILL a naive, whining brat. He just whines about different things now.

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>episode 25
deaths

>>15381790
>Mika not dead
A piece of shit to the very end.

>>15381790
>I belong where Orga is
>I'll apologize in the next life when we're reborn
Mika and Guts have been dead men walking for like 7 episodes.

>>15381223
>>15381699
God the character design is so fucking bad. Looks like Gundam:Slayers

>>15381801
Guts staying alive is more suffering for him than dying.

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>>15381580
Fixed

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>>15381827

>>15381796
>>15381801
t.evaggeks

>>15381768
>naive, whining brat
You again? It's really just a few of us here, isn't it.
If you have so many problems with someone expressing his anguish through a bit of eye liquid, I'd suggest a trip to the psychologist or buying a book titled "how to manage my emotions". You probably need it.

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>>15381451
>so who is?
Carta

I finally watched the last three episodes. Iok died stupidly, just like he lived; and did Julieta got AV'd while the doctors repaired her body and is going to pilot Bael now? Because that engineer woman was awfully happy.

>>15381906
>Iok died stupidly
No body, no confirmation.
Maybe engineer is happy with whatever happened to MS Julia or the special forces. Julietta seemed the same and we had that scene with Gali in ep 46 man.

>>15381906
If Julieta got AV'd it was McGillis-style and not Ein because she looks exactly the same when she's talking to Rustal in this episode.

Iok's not dead.

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>>15381843
I need a kit of this.

>>15381914
>Julietta seemed the same and we had that scene with Gali in ep 46 man.
She could still have an AV port under the uniform, just like Makky did.

>>15381827
>>15381843
Neo-Mexico

>>15381868
At least she has 1 good doujin

>>15381240
Is this a preview image ?

>>15381925
McGillis wore a high, loose colar, Julieta's is shorter and tighter so it would have been a bit more obvious if she had the surgery.

>>15381976
McGillis's AV is on the lower part of the spine. We see it when he gets in Bael.

>>15381827
>>15381843
Kek.

>>15381983
I had forgot about that, though I still doubt she had the surgery. Would she have had the time to get it?

>>15381955
yes, previews are
>>15381154
>>15381159
>>15381205
>>15381208
only 4 this week

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>>15381939
>only one good doujin
It's not fair.

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>>15381922
Here you go

>>15381827
>>15381843
please tell me that says tips fedorah in japanese

>>15382012
Not fair is that the best girl doesn't have one, and another that's a Julieta and Luka crossover

>>15382037
>ベドロラのヒント
Not even close, literally just a random string of katakana.

If you really stop and think about it, IBO has a Faustian thing going for it. Sure, there's Mika giving up parts of his body to power up Barbatos, but there's more than that.

Despite initially being afraid of Mika, Orga believed as long as he had the murderhobo at his side he could do anything, so they entered into an agreement. In exchange for following Orga, Orga would lead Mika to the place where they belong. This is Orga selling his soul to Mika, and afterwards Orga feels he has to live up to Mika's expectations of him, so they have to do crazy shit in order to move forward. When Orga is breaking down after Biscuit's death, Mika is there to remind him of their deal and push him into being the leader Mika expected him to be. Orga had to take on a badass persona, and his speeches ended up poisoning the minds of those he was leading so they all had the same expectations in him that Mika did. Orga wanted to lead his men to a happy ending, but they were all so poisoned he ended up making decisions that ended up destroying Tekkadan.

McGillis also sold his soul to Mika. Mika and Tekkadan's strength inspired him to begin his plans and throw his lot in with them. He even went so far as to sacrifice his friends to do so.

In the end they're all drinking that kool-aid of power Mikazuki is handing out, leading to their own destruction. And remember, Mikazuki's nickname is the Devil of Tekkadan.

>>15382089
i like this pottery

>>15382089
I like that interpretation. Though I'd say Choco was denied the pact. Mika is, ironically enough, monogamous for this stuff.
Isn't a faustian deal supposed to be asymetrical though? Both Orga and Mika sacrificed a lot for one another. Though Mika was always the one the devil imagery was pushed on.

>>15382089
Wow, I never thought of that, IBO is so deep

Cannot wait for Iron Blooded Ovaries to finally be over.

>>15381240
I am expecting a reversal of what happened in S1 finale.

So far we've got Gaelio killing McGliss.

I think Mika will die to Julietta.

Guts will die to 12 Grazes engulfing him, cutting his limbs off and impaling him with multiple spears.

>>15382256
>I think Mika will die to Julietta
How awesome would it be if Julietta killed Mika in a Flauros/Graze equipped with AV type GM?

I was hoping for Julietta avenging Galan Mossa by killing Guts, but that may not happen.

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WHO WILL HE KILL?

>>15382317
She sees revenge as something essentially bad and negative. She told Gaelio as much. It makes sense that she wouldn't suscribe to it.

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>>15382400
i don't want him to go out and fight he needs to be protected at all costs.

>>15382089
You're looking into it too much, this isn't a deep series.

>>15382528
2deep4u apparently

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>>15381706

That's just indicative the establishing shots with his Gundam are fucking sweet.

Like spoiler alert: all of his Gundam designs are great

>>15382400
He will kill Julietta by shooting Mika through her(Possibly at her behest), Mika will get a IMPLIED Death Scene only to show up in the last scene to reunite with BABBY and harem while in a wheelchair, never mind that he is already crippled, gotta have the /visual/ damage too.

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>>15382533
Nice post my friend, I see that you too, like myself, are what is known here as an "oldfag".

>>15382552
This, 100% Okada

>>15382528
Different anon, but I'd like to say that I think there can be something to be said for interpretations that aren't intended by the author. Although IBO has pretty poor writing, the show is certainly more interesting when viewed in >>15382089 's context.

It can be interesting to look at shows from different angles. Then again, I guess you could also defend some pretty retarded interpretations with the same line of thinking. Ultimately I think it's more of a subjective thing about what interpretations a given viewer finds interesting. Even bad shows can sometimes be interesting when viewed in a different light.

Get ready for one last hot steaming load in 36 hours from now. Let this failure end in a raging ember of true gundam and mecha fans rejecting and standing tall.

>>15382704
Fuck off shitter.

When comes the spoilers, when we should leave ?

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>>15382612
>interpretations that aren't intended by the author
Okada wrote on the theme of Faust before. Pic related, say Hi to Proto Choco (we can even go further with Proto Proto Choco who was a BL character from the 70s named Gilbert). This is definitely intentional.
Moreover I'd like to remind you Okada is a professional story teller. Bad or not it doesn't matter, whatever interpretation a bunch of average retards are coming up with on an anonymous board, she probably had 95% of those and a whole other bunch of literrary references we never heard of in mind when writing IBO.
That's why it always makes me laugh when people are whining about headcanons and people looking too deep into a work. Sure it happens, but sometime it's like people forget that everything that happens in a story happens by the will of someone with a brain.

>>15382704

So what's 'true' Gundam?

Is it more early UC because Japanese businessmen are deathly afraid of progress and innovation?

>>15382709
After you ANN

Requesting someone parody Final Countdown by Europe.

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>>15382538
Gundam are much like clothes, they make the man.

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>>15382715
alois a cute

>>15382762
I couldn't find him cute back when I watched this. Only whiny and annoying. I must have been too young to understand the appeal of sluts.

>>15382762
>>15382715
Is this a female(female)

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>>15382772
No it's a male(male), identifying as male.

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>>15381273
I want to see a Graze Ein derivative that actually wrecks shit.

>>15382716
aye, gotta fit in another side story that was never mentioned before where there were other gundams too, perhaps during march 22nd of 0082....or we could go completely new and original...more neo neo zeon remnants.

>>15381664
That's not really true, unless you count most characters barely characters. Which you probably do. Most people here don't understand story structure which is why they fall back on very thin criticisms in a story that is addled in its narrative and full of many problems, but most people can only come up with "no personality" "no character" "no development" (not understanding that characters don't need to go through major shifts or changes in thought or emotional process depending on the events of the story).

Eugene serves his role as a supporting character just fine, same as Akihiro and Shino and Yamagi and Ride, all with varying degrees of being underwritten at many moments.

>>15381676
But he was still very aggressive with Orga especially when forcing him to pull back and also when he saw him making a deal with Rustal behind their backs. He was barely in the season otherwise, but what we saw shows he's still very much willing to challenge him. Just because he wants to give him a blowjob too it's not a bad thing, his entire character arc revolves around Orga.

Just wondering, do you guys think Mikazuki is a flat or stagnant character or one that has gone through no development and is therefore bad? What do you think of Gaelio surviving and the role he has played so far?

>>15382897
>do you guys think Mikazuki is a flat or stagnant character or one that has gone through no development and is therefore bad
Yes "we" do, those are actually one of the few points everyone here agrees on actually.

>What do you think of Gaelio surviving and the role he has played so far?
I'm not objective because I have like 500 pics of him on my computer. Moreover that's just not specific enough a question for me to answer. Apparently you have an opinion on that so why not start by sharing it?

>>15382886
I don't get it.

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>>15381827
>>15381843
Looks like Nigel Thornberry in a fedora.

>>15382715
>Gilbert
You mean that fag from Song of wind and tree.
It explains everything why IBO so gay in a very angst way.

>>15381580
Wasn't there already something like that in Crossbone?
>Gundam has officially at least TWO giant robots with fedoras

>>15382886
Now I know what reminded me when he sat in Bael's cockpit for the first time.

>>15382949
My opinion on it, despite not being a Gaelio fan, is that it was a storytelling device and infused very old themes into one roll of a character, which is more important than if it's an "asspull" or not. Likewise, how he's propelled the story or affected it matters -- he has by putting the final nail in McGillis's plans when he interrupted his broadcast and has also killed him, while still carrying on a recurring theme in the series while he has and struggling with his own humanity and emotions. I don't think any of this is greatly written at all, in fact none of IBO is, but I think people's "criticism" is usually pretty shitty of it.

>>15381240
But when IBO started I still had hope for the series

>>15383204

I still have hope, but then again I'm only watching to see Tekkadan get BTFO.

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>>15383204
>>15383211
I never had hope to begin with because i've always liked the show since the first episode

>>15383211
It's the only way to redeem this shit. But I expect some asspull like in the last episode of the first season.

>Classicaloid New Project
>Kaiketsu Peypot
>Nothing for Orphans
I'm disappointed.

>>15382949
>I'm not objective because I have like 500 pics of him on my computer.
How? I mean, did you screenshot all his appearances or are there a lot of fanarts out there?

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I don't want best MS ever to die

so sad

>>15382949
>"we"
>''everyone here''
Well... well, I don't mean to burst your bubble, but not everyone is a cancerfag like you.

>''I have like 500 pics of him on my computer.''
There is no need to say any more, this explains very well what type of cancer you really are.

Cancerfags aren't welcome in /m/, please go back to their phaggy ass site.

>>15382897
>>15383194
t.evageek
>>15382949
t.fujo

>>15382897

It has nothing to do with 'understanding story structure', Eugene's character has the depth of a Dixie cup. What is there to tarnish?

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>>15383306
Best frog!

>>15383364
A character does not need to have layers and layers of complexity or "depth" to have established traits that can be contradicted or thrown out. I don't think he was "tarnished" anyway and argued against it, but yeah, it does have to do with understanding story structure and what role supporting casts serve otherwise you end up having a bunch of half-thoughts like you do. Do you think Atra has depth? Kudelia? Shino? Yamagi? What do these characters have unique to them that is not shared by Tekkadan as a theme or isn't shared by a lot of characters? What do they show consistently, depth-wise, that is not heavily extrapolated from one or two tiny scenes? What about Lafter or Azee or Almiria? I mean it, you actually sound like a lot of people here in that you don't understand what you're talking about when you're criticizing the story or a character. When most people criticize Mikazuki or Orga here they also sound pretty retarded.

>new version
https://youtu.be/GknwL-XWG6c

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>>15383420
i understand it's fun to argue with faggots on here but you won't get any actual thought out of them my friend...ibo threads are a shit mess but at least they'll be over soon

>>15383364
I can't believe you're making me defend a character I don't give a shit about but ep 1,3,4,5,7,9,14,19,24,25,26,27,46,47,49 all show consistent traits with him, just because he isn't full of angst and conflict doesnt mean hes lacking any depth more than most of the characters who telegraph their constant philosophical questions aloud

>>15382949
speak for yourself faggot, i hate mikazuki but no, i don't think he's a flat or stagnant character. i just don't really have serious character discussion in these threads because there isn't any point, but i don't agree at all. mikazuki is boring and unlikable, but he isn't flat. there's a difference.

Hush was the character with the best set up for depth and potential, discuss.

Next is Akihiro who stopped developing somewhere along the way when his arc got redundant and he faded into such irrelevancy that his resolutions to Aston's and Lafter's deaths were meaningless.

>>15383460
Hush sucked and an angsty backstory doesn't = depth.

Everyone in IBO is bad because they are either underwritten, unexplored, over-telegraphed and heavyhanded, or had overexposure that led to a derailed or flopped character arc. No characters are good or deep or interesting beyond what people try to extract and turn into something greater. McGillis had potential and blew it as did Gaelio.

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Hush is pure

>>15383479
He sucks and is the biggest disappointment and embarrassment of the series. Literally a "who" character even more so than the rest who has made his mark by being a wheelchair, dying uselesly, and dropping a character arc the moment Mika stopped him from hitting a girl.

>>15383420

>Do you think Atra has depth? Kudelia? Shino? Yamagi?

Maybe, no, no and no in that order.

And your initial point is sound, but the fact remains that claiming his character is 'ruined' when he received barely any meaningful screen time beyond the show's opening episodes and the final stretch is exceedingly melodramatic.

>>15383508
Oh, I agree. I guess we don't disagree a lot then. I said that I didn't think his character was ruined because he's kept his established traits, and I think he's been underwritten as he basically became a nonentity in season 2 like Kudelia did and only became relevant when Shino died again. So I mean, I'm not saying he's got all of this amazing depth or anything, I just am saying he was not ruined. Which you were not arguing I guess, but I find that he wasn't "ruined" because he mostly kept what traits he did have in the, what, 2-3 episodes he's been relevant or had a personality in season 2, rather than because he never had any traits to begin with. But I agree that it's melodramatic and dumb regardless to call a character that's been so ignored ruined when he was only a supportive one in the first season anyway.

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>>15383493
MC's stupid friend is a famous character.

>>15383508
>Atra
>maybe
That's definitely a no.

Gaelio will probably live and improve the conditions on Mars, even if it's by force.

>>15383493
He's honestly a pretty good representation for the entire season; he gets introduced, accomplishes nothing, and then dies to an unnamed grunt.

>>15383436
>0:21
That's why you always confirm the kill.

>>15383435
Elves run Gjallarhorn = confirmed

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>>15383588
>improve the conditions on Mars, even if it's by force.
Together with Slaine troyard

>>15381451
>executioner graze
>about to hit raiden-go
its a red flag who ever the pilot is will be fine. they doing this to make us think he'll be taken out like hush.

>>15381860
>complaining about the image, not the post
You again? There really are a few dedicated Galiofags, aren't there.

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>>15383656
>Slaine is going to reform and improve the conditions on Mars.

I'm going to hell for laughing at this.

>>15381451
Yamagi most likely.

Fighting in the MS the man he loved created? seems likely.

>>15383436
>https://youtu.be/GknwL-XWG6c
>her eyes begging to suck his best friend's dick
Why is he so gay?

>>15383588
It seems more fitting to me to leave Mars to Kudelia. I wouldn't be surprised if he helped but if Gaelio is going to be improving anything I'd expect it to be Gjhallarhorn.

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>>15381382
>But no, IBO will go for a shittier ending, after all Okada hasn't yet done enough damage.
dude shitty endings are the cross-universal unifier of all Gundam shows

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>>15383831
>yamagi flies the MS of his crush
>gets crushed by a giant ax
I want this to happen.

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>>15384069

Will Okada go for the Ideon movie ending?

>>15383943
I'd be surprised if he left it alone after that shit about understanding Isurugi's feelings thanks to Ein, and saying the dreams McGillis gave Isurugi are nothing but a deception. Maybe the writers are just shit and they won't follow up on something that sounds significant but if they have half a brain they'll understand that they didn't just set up Gaelio as McGillis's killer, but also as someone who understands the plight of Martians like Ein and Isurugi, who were both led astray by McGillis, at least according to Gaelio.

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>>15382089
With this interpretation in mind, I'd be pretty pissed if Mika survives tomorrow's episode. Because willingly or not, he led Tekkadan to their doom as much as Orga did.

>>15384097
If that's the interpretation then it's ironic since Mika's a kid who just wants to protect his family because he doesn't know what to do on his own. It's really unfair to Mika who had expectations pushed on him by people who idolized his simple fortitude and power and it's not him that they pushed towards their own demises.

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>>15384106
>Mika's a kid who just wants to protect his family
No. He kept pushing Orga to take dumber and dumber risks.
If he wanted to protect his family, he would have let him know to be more careful when things were actually going well for Tekkadan.
He also could have prevented the entire McGillis fuck-up by simply speaking his mind at the right time.
But he was blindly following Orga, who was blindly following him, who was blindly following Orga...
It's like a moebius strip of autism and murder.
His inability to reflect kills his family.

Quit making excuses.

>>15384069
>>15384077
If that happens and IBO doesn't end with next ep, then flarous will be regained with Yamagi piloting it.

>>15381580
Looks like something out of Bubuki/Buranki.

>>15384130
Only one of them put on airs about what they could do.

Mika was upfront about killing and destroying and he did everything that was asked of him. It's Orga and McGillis who lead themselves thinking they can take advantage of Mika's power to get where they want. Mika's not even autistic, he's borderline retarded and he gets abused by people around him because he's simple. You think he was the one who wanted to put a baby in Atra? When they meet Kudelia it's not "Kudelia I want to stick a baby in you" it's "Do you want one too?" It's Atra who keeps telling Kudelia to have a baby.

Who's the retard who keeps promising that he'll take everyone to the place?
Who's the chuuni who promised Bael was the greatest shit since sliced bread and that Tekkadan would be King of Mars?
Who's the cunt who keeps pushing the love triangle and baby making?

None of them is Mika.

>>15384153
But Mika did said he would like to see Atra babies, It was only after Atra said she would only do It with him that he follow with the idea, also is not like Orga, Mcgillis and Atra are that mentaly stable, if been retarded is a good excuse for Mika

>>15384153
Mika wasn't that stupid.
And your narrative runs counter to what was said during one of Mika and Orga's final conversations, where he basically says that he was fully aware of the effect he was having on people.

And even if he wasn't, idiocy doesn't override responsibility. Like it or not, he was a key factor in getting this shitshow on the road. He has to share in the blame too.

>>15382089
That's an interesting interpretation. Personally I see IBO more as a jab against manchild otakus or even as a deconstruction of shonen mecha shows.
S1: the setup
Generic story about a bunch youngsters getting dragged into the evil schemes of evil adults and somehow succeeding against all odds.
First arcs of S2: foreshadowing
Lots of evil scheming in the background but violence still works
MA arc: full wish-fulfillment
An undefeatable enemy appears but the MC discovers a secret power in himself and solos the big bad.

And then comes the cut, after the MA arc literally anything important happens outside of the battlefield and having super special abilities doesn't do shit anymore.
>Barbatos gets redesigned
>McGillis gets Bael, believes it will make him king of the world
>they don't do shit except look edgy and kill grunts
>Dante calls McGillis crazy for still trying to win
>even after ep48 people thought Tekkadan would somehow win
>the audience is as retarded as McGillis

>>15384153
Mika is literally just an emotionally stunted retard who wants to stop fighting and start a fucking farm yet everyone keeps on using him as a beat stick for their retarded plans.

>>15384198
>deconstruction

There's that word again.

>>15381240
PUT YOUR GLASSES ON! NOTHING WILL BE WON!

Akihiro is a fucking beast. The true star of IBO.

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Wew, I knew I'd get guaranteed replies for that "we" but still.

>>15383277
Both. This is nothing impressive though. It's rather easy to accumulate fanarts when you go to twitter every week on release day.

>>15383457
>i just don't really have serious character discussion in these threads
A subtle (haha) way to avoid providing arguments. But then again I can't fault you for that, it's hard to find evidence of character development when it doesn't exist.

>>15383194
>My opinion on it, despite not being a Gaelio fan, is that it was a storytelling device and infused very old themes into one roll of a character, which is more important than if it's an "asspull" or not
You get it, which is more than I can say for most people here. Though personally I'd argue the concept of parapraxis and just about any observation of McGillis character through a rudimentary freudian lens is enough to explain how it could happen. You always end up fucking up what you don't want to do on a subconscious level.
>I don't think any of this is greatly written at all, in fact none of IBO is
Nah it's far from subtle, but honestly that was still the only part of IBO I was interested in. I love stories about friends and betrayal.

>>15382400
Rustal

>>15383789
>complaining about the image, not the post
Not at all, it's just that you sound like a broken record.

>>15382089, you may be an autist but looking at
>>15384130 's image makes sense.

>>15384270
Do you think everyone who tries to use his brain to write wall of texts instead of pastas is an autist?
I feel sorry dor you.

22 hours left

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>>15384201
>He wants to stop fighting
Yeah, he says that. But there's not a lot of evidence there.
He also tells Orga to use him up.
And his reaction to the idea that Kudelia wants to create a world of peace wasn't enthusiastic either.
He's like the Miyazaki of mercenaries. He keeps talking about his retirement but never gets around to it.

>>15384198
Now that I think about it McGillis is literally the average gundam fan.

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>>15384378
I'm sure his room is chock full of Bael gunplas.

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>>15384198
It's also a jab against people who think they can be happy.
Okada doesn't condone that shit.

>>15383436
Tekkadan should've salvaged the Kimaris and refashion it for some other ace pilot like they did with the Gusion after the Brewers.
All while confirming the kill of course.

Why do we call them Team Meat again?

>>15383958
>mfw all these shitty Gundam endings caused a rift within space-time continuum of the Gundam Multiverse and ended up starting the Black History

>>15384198
>having super special abilities doesn't do shit anymore

EIN

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>>15384436
Episode 26.

>>15384224
>There's that word again.

Dude, when you see someone using the "deconstruction" word within the context of an anime show as a substitute for legitimate criticism you know they're talking shit. Run away fast and never look back.

Link to stream?

>>15384540

http://vaughnlive.tv/sherming6666

Fuck

>Julietta is gonna kill Mika and Guts
JUST

Called it

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>Iok and Julietta going against two juggernauts
Well shit, this is going to hurt

Mika rip?

Guts is the coolest.

>>15384585
>>Julietta is gonna kill Mika and Guts
>JUST
This show is a joke for retarded children

wot

Based Guts

Fucking rip Lok

Iok gone

>>15384602
Did Iok finally die?

>>15384606
Guts killed him

>>15384604
DRopped

He's dead, thank fucking god.

poor barbatos

Wow fucking nothing

Rip Mika Monkey got the kill also probably Iok is alive somehow.

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>>15384609
>Dropped at the last episode

Well this is all very underwhelming

This ending is going to suck unless it gets a movie or something.

>>15384618
It wouldn't have been if main characters were compelling. But I just don't care about them at all.

>>15384614
She just ripped off Barbatos's head, Mika died before Julietta could do anything

MILF KUDELIA
HOLY SHIT

Jesus, look at her hair, it's, like 2 years timeskip.

at least eugene survived

is Guts still alive?

>>15384643
No.

>>15384640
>collect all 5 parts to combine into Super Dantalion

>>15384643
Killed lok. Good end

>>15384646
fuck

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WINNER

Lol fatso killed in the toilet. based Ride

RIDES OUR BOI

No Almiria nor twins sighting

RAISE YOUR FLAG
And then lower it again and go about business as usual

Was that yamagi with the ponytail?

Any word on Rustal?

>the murders continue
GOOD END

>>15384657
Is Kudelia the mother of all those children?

Nice to see Ride avenged those who died for him

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Kudelia and her wife!

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>dat Atra
UMF

Fucking hell milf atra is ugly as fuck

milf atra oh man

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>>15384680

ehh I'll take it
6.5/10 over all
I like it

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>>15384683

Well that was a load of shit

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Milfs everywhere

>>15384677
>milf atra
my fucking dick

DID MIKA DIE OR WHAT

>>15384666
If they ever decide to revisit this storyline Almaria will be the final boss.
>>15384674
I think he's still alive,haven't seen the episode yet.

Ehhhh could have been worse
Time skip saved it

Almiria and the Griffon twins didn't appear.

>>15384696
Yes. It turns out the place that Orga promised him was death.

Surprisingly good end, still a shame we didn't get a setup for a movie or ova.

>>15384685
This thing was doomed from the start. Should've been about turbines or something.
>>15384697
>I think he's still alive
He is. And he's in charge.

>>15384693
That's a christmas cake not a MILF, Gaelio got crippled so no baby for Monkey.

>>15384700
>shit characters get no screentime for once

Thank god.

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Why is it that when a semen demon writes gundam, the ending is FUCKING TERRIBLE.

>>15384700
> Griffon twins didn't appear
They did. Not after the timeskip.

I hope Mika got his ass kicked in an interesting way at least.

>>15384704
The set up is there for a movie at least, just time skip 10 or so more years and Mika Jr with be the MC

>>15384706
how is gaelio crippled? AV type E doesnt fuck him up or did I miss something from the previous episode?

That was brutal, Rustal.

Final battle? Fuck that. I'm going to rain Dainsleifs down on you from orbit then bury you in grunts.

And it worked splendidly. RIP Iok, your retardation got you killed at last.

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>>15384674
He is now the King of the World!

>>15384708

Gundam almost never ends in a satisfactory manner anyway now.

Unicorn didn't. Destiny didn't, AGE most certainly didn't, BFT didn't, and depending on your outlook 00 didn't.

>>15384704
You really want a continuation to this terrible story? I'm just glad it's finally over. And Mika is fucking dead.

>>15384710
Him and Guts got bombarded by Dainslaffs and then he went full demon until he burnt out.

>>15384693
>>15384677
>>15384657
>>15384714
Wow I guess after they killed Guts they had none left to do anything that daring

Annihilation would have stood out

>>15384700
Almiria probably got executed in place of McGillis or is in prision at least. Cookie and Cracker they probably just went to a fancy Highschool and they are busy dating Chads.

Everyone but Mika and Akihiro retreat. Rustal bombards them with Dainsleivs from orbit but they still keep fighting a bit. Akihiro dies after he manages to kill Iok, Julietta fights Mika a bit until he drops dead while fighting.

GH losing three of the Seven Stars makes it so that the SS can't run it anymore. They become a democratic government lead by Rustal. Bael is returned to its chamber.

GH pulls out of Mars, and the Earth forces do too. Mars goes independent forms the Martian Federation led by Kudelia.

Rustal and Kudelia sign a treaty to ban human debris. Ride guns down Nobby in a toilet. Atra raises Mika's son Akatsuki on the farm with Kudelia.

fuck this show

>>15384720
Ride has a group that is out for revenge so they might go after him eventually.

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Would you?

>>15384715
Those 5 series you just mentioned are pretty terrible as well, Destiny has it's special place on hell, no wonder Fukuda died of brain cancer. Hope this bitch dies of ebola.

>>15384712
Maybe Chocolate Man did more damage to him than we thought.Or Almaria crippled him.It's unusual that she was not seen post time skip.

So was this a Mika stands his ground to help everyone get away?

That doesn't make sense, they have more than enough men to get the rest later. If they just wanted Tekkadan dead as a company they could have abandoned the place and apparently they would have been left alone

>>15384722
>Almiria probably got executed in place of McGillis or is in prision at least.
Oh come on.

Fuck man. I'm pissed that smug asshole Rustal got away with everything.

>>15384702
>>15384696
Mika realises before he dies that the place he and Orga were searching for was the Tekkadan as it was at the start of S2 all along.

>>15384714

So much for Gaelio taking over, ha. Did he even get mentioned in the ep?

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Haters gonna hate

>>15384715
Why did you pick the Gundam shows with the worst endings?

>>15384712
I don't think he's crippled, he's at the hospital with a bandage around his neck, implying he probably went back and got his AV removed or something now that he's achieved what he set out to do.

>>15384733

That was his wife.

And I know it's cool to place the blame on a single person, but I recommend this article. I think it'll clear a lot of things up.

https://wavemotioncannon.com/2017/02/01/iron-blooded-orphans-is-not-mari-okadas-gundam/

>>15384693
I cannot believe this useless monkey survived.

Goes to show where the character priorities in this show was, I guess.

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>>15384725
>Iok dies

>>15384731
I'm not mad at all. Meatdad deserved his place by being the very best at what he does.

>>15384742

Because most modern Gundam shows end terribly, which was his point. It's not exclusive to this.

>>15384736
7 Stars is kill and It's Rustal's Gjallarhorn know. it's possible.

>>15384741
She was basically written out the show

>>15384749
I thought she was confirmed to be Okada's self insert

>>15384740
There was a screencap of him crippled in a wheelchair.

>>15384739
So he goes to the place when he was the happiest?

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>>15384748
>wavemotioncannon

>>15384742
That's what he's saying. Gundam in general doesn't have good endings, so he picked ones with really bad ones.

That was retarded. Most lackluster ending. Mika's final rampage was great until you realize all he did was kill grunts. Iok was forcefully killed when he didn't have to do shit and meh. IBO is just so meh. Glad it's over. I can't even call that an ending.

>>15384711
Yeah but that's not the same

>>15384710
He went beast mode and killed a small army in the most over the top and edgiest way possible.
Then he bled to death

>>15384717
Yes, 00 was a long time ago and most gundams since then have been boring or just plain unwatchable.

>>15384725
>Rustal was the good guy all along

>>15384701
Translation?

>>15384725
>GH losing three of the Seven Stars makes it so that the SS can't run it anymore. They become a democratic government lead by Rustal. Bael is returned to its chamber.
That doesn't make sense.

You'd just have teh surviving ones gain more power and maybe some lower ones try to climb. The whole show has been about how these people are incredibly corrupt. This is like the end of Korra where they just go EK is democracy now even though it so easily feel to a dictator.

>>15384763
>Iok was forcefully killed when he didn't have to do shit and meh
Everybody hates him so he has to die.

Ending was pretty much what I expected but really what was the point? This end could have been achieved in the first season, they didn't need to drag this that long.

Feels like nothing happened or accomplished.

>>15384760

I dunno who he actually is, I just saw this link in a prior thread.

Everything's run by committee. IBO was in production since at least post-00, some thing we blame Okada for was likely introduced before she even got on the project, though I have no doubt she also introduced a few objectionable elements herself.

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>>15384748
fake, the same shit written from mayoiga

>>15384768

Eh, when of the remaining four one is a mess (Bauduin) and one happens to be headed by Rustal, while the others have already been seen to back away under pressure, it's not that hard to see how he could have leveraged it.

>>15384764
> boring or just plain unwatchable.
Like IBO?
Isn't there a g-reco movie coming? I'd much rather watch it.

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>>15384773
>Feels like nothing happened or accomplished.
It will pick up when they get to earth.......

>Mika survived and is now on Monkey's rape dungeon

>>15384773
The party isn't big and loud enough.
Nobody looked at them seriously.

>>15384779
>, it's not that hard to see how he could have leveraged it.
He has no reason to leverage it to a democracy. If he had the power just become a dictator.

>>15384750
>His VA immediately took to twitter to laugh at him

>>15384792
He did mention hating the guy.

>>15384768
>the end of Korra
Don't even remind me.

>>15384725

Wait, how does he kill Iok? Iok decides to join the battle?

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Let it be known that when women are involved with Gundam, It becomes a pro feminist matriarchal series.

Hope the next Gundam is some fantasy dunbine inspired series, not another tryhard wannabe edgy shitfest like this.

>>15384796
We even have lesbians >>15384677

IBO is the Korra of Gundam

So, would you be ok with Dainsleifs becoming a general thing in future gundam series?

I don't. those things are scary as shit.

>>15384802
Now it all makes sense.

>>15384763
>Iok was forcefully killed when he didn't have to do shit and meh.
He keeps trying to charge in (even stealing one of his men's MS) and everyone keeps stopping him, but he manages to finally get at Akihiro after the Dainsleiv bombardment. He does his usual I AM IOK KUJAN thing and Akihiro recognises the line, recognises him as the guy who fucked everyone up, and kills him saying "so good things DO happen if you keep living" before the GH grunts stab him to death.

It was an okay conclusion for Akihiro.

>>15384799
>It becomes a pro feminist matriarchal series.

Don't you have an MRA Tumblr account you should be using to broadcast your cry of defiance to the world?

He guys remember when Gali and Almaria are going to reform GH?

>>15384791

Why would he when that would just make him the next target after the McGillis bullshit?

The man was already shown to be meritocratic and now he's running the show, democracy notwithstanding. You're being painfully reductive.

>>15384798
Iok just runs into the battle after the orbital bombardment. He was told not to and actually didn't go in until later. He actually beat up Akihiro until Akihiro heard his name and snapped.

>>15384806

That's actually hilarious.

>>15384791
The narration says that he had the same goal as McGillis all along, and that he achieved what McGillis wanted.

>>15384781
>unwatchable
>watches 50 episode
inb4 b-but I didn't

No I mean shit like Destiny or Unicorn(for different reasons). That garbage pissed me off to the point I just stopped watching and caring.

>>15381790
what is mustache guardian handler's purpose?

>>15384803
They're just regular beam cannons in a setting where beam cannons wouldn't work.

>superior firepower and an overwhelming advantage in numbers win the day
Finally a gundam that makes sense

>>15384812

That seems sort of random. I mean, I'm not complaining, but I'm surprised he just died. You'd think he'll sit back and let the others do the dirty work.

Who else died? Is Eugene dead?

>>15384815
>Destiny
Yes, I couldn't finish the first episode.
>Unicorn
It was alright. I don't understand the hate.

>>15384810
>Why would he when that would just make him the next target
If that was the case he'd be the next target no matter what, they'd just do it differently

>The man was already shown to be meritocratic
That wouldn't mean he felt the need to be pro democracy, especially as that could see him out of power

> You're being painfully reductive.
And your apologetics aren't getting you anywhere

>>15384814
I would get angry at us finding character motivation in narration but at the point it is not surprising

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>>15384673
>Shino missed this

>>15384799
>the manly men gundam bros killed off cause fuck masculinity
>lesbians raising a son who will no doubt become a flamboyant sissy
>dumb monkey okada self insert wins no matter what
>kudelia is worthless but still made out to be big shit

Okada should never touch gundam again